Author Topic: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News  (Read 6545 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline trytobecharming

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 1926
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2011, 06:30:25 PM »
It will be produced by Jeff Zucker. Oh boy.

Jeff Zucker was an NBC boss when Katie was on the Today show.

Offline trytobecharming

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 1926
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2011, 07:43:39 PM »
Jeff Zucker was an NBC boss when Katie was on the Today show.

And this thing being cleared for 3PM on the ABC owned and operated stations will cut into 23% of GH's audience, meaning another soap may be on the chopping block.

Offline Ccook

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 4586
  • 67 years of The Price Is Right
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2011, 08:54:08 PM »
The only time period to which I see General Hospital moving would be 10 AM Eastern, should that happen. ABC O&Os would clear GH regardless of what time it's on as normally network O&Os clear all the network's shows (rare exception: Sacramento CBS O&O KOVR did not clear Guiding Light during its last few years).
"No man is exempt from saying silly things; the mischief is to say them deliberately."
--Michel de Montaigne

Offline katrinka_ohio

  • Taking a Bonus Spin
  • *****
  • Posts: 682
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2011, 10:07:30 PM »
Click here for another Hollywood Reporter article stating that the fate of "General Hospital" is a question mark.
Go fellow Buckeye Drew!

Offline trytobecharming

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 1926
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2011, 10:27:18 PM »
The only time period to which I see General Hospital moving would be 10 AM Eastern, should that happen. ABC O&Os would clear GH regardless of what time it's on as normally network O&Os clear all the network's shows (rare exception: Sacramento CBS O&O KOVR did not clear Guiding Light during its last few years).

I suspect if one of these new talk shows that replace AMC or OLTL does well enough, GH goes bye bye when Katie's show debuts. A network without soap operas in daytime hasn't happened since at least the 50s if at all. SOme of us remember when the networks abandoned game shows back in 1993 outside of TPIR.

Offline godgundam10

  • In Contestant's Row
  • ***
  • Posts: 180
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2011, 10:41:49 PM »
I suspect if one of these new talk shows that replace AMC or OLTL does well enough, GH goes bye bye when Katie's show debuts. A network without soap operas in daytime hasn't happened since at least the 50s if at all. SOme of us remember when the networks abandoned game shows back in 1993 outside of TPIR.

Maybe game shows are gonna make a come back? Anything can happen.

Offline imhomerjay

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 2047
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2011, 05:05:23 AM »
GH isn't going to run at 10 am...nothing on the network is. Setting aside that it's made clear ABC is giving back an hour, even if the talk show were a network program, they aren't going to get an extra hour back from the affiliates.

GH's only hope is for one of the two new shows to crash and burn spectacularly, making it unprofitable to continue. Even then, it's likely to be a temporary reprieve, as sooner or later the return on investment for GH is going to wind up where it was for AMc and OLTL. 

Offline Axl

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 4450
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2011, 06:45:28 AM »
Jeff Zucker was an NBC boss when Katie was on the Today show.

More specifically, Zucker was Katie's direct boss as the executive producer of the Today show for most of the time she was on it.  That program thrived under Zucker, but in a classic case of the Peter Principle, he later wound up being the president of NBC and ran it into the ground.  If you've ever wondered why NBC prime time became dependent on stunt and reality shows or why NBC Sports is now reduced to airing college lacrosse matches, look no further than Jeff Zucker.

Offline JohnHolder

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 1496
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2011, 07:38:18 AM »
More specifically, Zucker was Katie's direct boss as the executive producer of the Today show for most of the time she was on it.  That program thrived under Zucker, but in a classic case of the Peter Principle, he later wound up being the president of NBC and ran it into the ground.  If you've ever wondered why NBC prime time became dependent on stunt and reality shows or why NBC Sports is now reduced to airing college lacrosse matches, look no further than Jeff Zucker.

The 10 pm Jay Leno show was his brainchild, too.

Offline godgundam10

  • In Contestant's Row
  • ***
  • Posts: 180
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2011, 08:14:14 AM »
Jeff Zucker killed NBC. It'll take a miracle to pull the peacock out of the toilet this time.

Offline trytobecharming

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 1926
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2011, 08:19:23 AM »
Maybe game shows are gonna make a come back? Anything can happen.

Not on network daytime outside of LMAD. A new syndicated game show probably should have been tried for this Fall but wasn't. With Oprah gone, Regis retiring supposedly, plus ABC ditching two soaps, might have been worth a shot. But I guess the recent failure of syndicated DOND, Fifth Grader, and Lyrics, Crosswords, Temptation, Trivial Pursuit, and reruns of Canada's Inside the Box caused no one to try a new daily syndie game show for this Fall.  Fifth Grader and Lyrics didn't even show up at the NATPE convention in January. Maybe there'll be some game show offerings for syndication in 2012.

Offline Ccook

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 4586
  • 67 years of The Price Is Right
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2011, 10:49:01 AM »
GH isn't going to run at 10 am...nothing on the network is. Setting aside that it's made clear ABC is giving back an hour, even if the talk show were a network program, they aren't going to get an extra hour back from the affiliates.
Well, the ABC O&Os could play it at 10. CBS put Guiding Light (and now Let's Make A Deal at 9 AM and 10 AM on "wild feeds" (for recording a playing later in the daypart) and a number of CBS stations chose to air the show during the wild feeds. I don't doubt the rest of ABC stations wouldn't go back to network programming at 10 (the network never did program any earlier than 10:30, and the last time they did was way back in 1966 for about a year).
"No man is exempt from saying silly things; the mischief is to say them deliberately."
--Michel de Montaigne

Offline godgundam10

  • In Contestant's Row
  • ***
  • Posts: 180
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2011, 04:52:40 PM »
Not on network daytime outside of LMAD. A new syndicated game show probably should have been tried for this Fall but wasn't. With Oprah gone, Regis retiring supposedly, plus ABC ditching two soaps, might have been worth a shot. But I guess the recent failure of syndicated DOND, Fifth Grader, and Lyrics, Crosswords, Temptation, Trivial Pursuit, and reruns of Canada's Inside the Box caused no one to try a new daily syndie game show for this Fall.  Fifth Grader and Lyrics didn't even show up at the NATPE convention in January. Maybe there'll be some game show offerings for syndication in 2012.

Don't be so sure. Anything can happen. If CBS can do it, NBC can too. I mean, they got 4 hours of Today. And some affiliates preempt either the third or fourth hours(or even both) and we all know NBC hates that. Besides, NBC has been the lowest rated daytime schedule for years behind CBS and ABC. Maybe adding a couple game shows will put a dent in the ratings for them.

It may be difficult, but it is not completely impossible.

Offline trytobecharming

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 1926
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2011, 06:03:09 PM »
Don't be so sure. Anything can happen. If CBS can do it, NBC can too. I mean, they got 4 hours of Today. And some affiliates preempt either the third or fourth hours(or even both) and we all know NBC hates that. Besides, NBC has been the lowest rated daytime schedule for years behind CBS and ABC. Maybe adding a couple game shows will put a dent in the ratings for them.

It may be difficult, but it is not completely impossible.

I don't know if NBC would be willing to ditch an hour of the Today Show. I kind of sense the soaps going bye bye before this decade is out, as to what NBC does with the DOOL hour when DOOL finally ends, who knows.

Offline imhomerjay

  • Double Showcase Winner
  • ******
  • Posts: 2047
Re: Katie Couric deal with ABC Daytime/News
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2011, 08:04:23 PM »
NBC isn't going to kill any of the Today show for a very long time.

As for GH, it's simple math. There will be an hour given to the affiliates, period. That hour currently belongs to GH. GH's only hope for survival is if ABC has crashed and burned with one of the new talk shows and sees nothing else on the horizon that would suitably take it's place. In such a case, GH moves to 1 or 2, not 10. And even then, any realist has to know it's simply delaying the inevitable. GH is toast sooner rather than later.