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Re: Wink Martindale's Awesome Non-Price Clips and Episodes: The Ongoing Thread
« Reply #210 on: September 16, 2018, 11:23:22 AM »
Star Words was a decent show i like simple word game shows. It's like Password/Match Game mixed in with tattletales. I see why they went with Press Your Luck.


Once Nipsey tone it down he was a pretty good host. Its a shame none of his pilots he hosted never picked up i think he would made a good host.

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« Reply #211 on: September 16, 2018, 02:05:16 PM »
He hosted the 13-weeker Your Number's Up (NBC, 1985) and in spite of his "no indoor voice," he did rather well.
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« Reply #212 on: September 16, 2018, 05:35:50 PM »
I love the less-than-subtle shout-out to NATPE in the first headline of the Headline Chasers pilot.  That's the name of the trade show where local stations get acquainted with the new syndicated offerings.  They might as well have had Wink get down on his knees and say, "Pleeeeeease buy this show!"

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« Reply #213 on: September 22, 2018, 07:59:04 PM »
This morning, Wink posted the studio master to episode #17 of the short-lived Bill Cullen-hosted game Pass the Buck, which preceded Price in 1978.

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« Reply #214 on: September 28, 2018, 09:26:35 AM »
Wink has a subscriber challenge for the first time in a while. If his YouTube channel surpasses 8,000 subscribers, he will post two studio masters of Whew! from 1979. One is A-131D, which likely aired on October 30, 1979. The other is A-133D, which is likely the civilian finale from November 2, 1979. For the latter, Steve Leblang's gauntlet run has been on YouTube for years now. Wink previously uploaded A-132D, which aired on Halloween, 1979, so it'd be nice to have this trifecta.


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« Reply #216 on: October 01, 2018, 06:23:58 AM »
There's an update to the 8,000 YouTube subscriber challenge. In addition to the two regular episodes of Whew!, Wink will also upload the third pilot episode, taped on December 4, 1978. This will be a treat for many game show fans.

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« Reply #217 on: October 01, 2018, 07:39:02 AM »
Regarding the Card Sharks pilot...it's certainly better than what ended up airing in 2001, but there are some issues.

First, the positives: The set, while smaller, looks better than the one used on the series. There is some symmetry and balance to it, and it has a Las Vegas/casino feel to it.

Pat Bullard, while known for being one of the worst hosts we've ever seen, is tolerable here. He isn't terribly hammy or sleazy, and he did not use his infamous "because I'm a nice guy!" when he explained how a contestant could change the first card on each line in the Money Cards. He also moved the game along reasonably well. However, he was a bit cocky in the pitchfilm that followed the pilot.

It was neat to hear Burton Richardson announce. I wish we heard more of him in the pilot.

I liked how they tried to use a variety of card games (blackjack and acey-deucey/high-low), rather than just sticking with acey-deucey/high-low for the entire show. This adds some variety and gives some strategy in each of the show's acts. The final round of the main game has the classic format of Card Sharks, even if they use the pre-taped segments to determine the control of the cards.

The shark mascot was interesting-especially when they used it to munch on the lost cards in the second round.

Now, here are the downsides:

The theme song started with a Jaws-esque tension, before transitioning to the main theme. However, the main theme sounds very generic, in my opinion. I had hoped for something more Vegas-like.

The whole game feels like Candid Camera or Street Smarts featuring Card Sharks. Maybe they felt having the survey, audience poll, or educated guess questions would have made the game drag or feel too tedious, but these pre-taped segments don't engender much in the way of contestant interaction, and they take away attention from the main game.

It was interesting to have the contestants change their cards once after every draw, rather than the initial one. Making the game more like true blackjack would have given the contestants the chance to employ much more thought and strategy-contestants would be more apt to pass cards to their opponent if they felt they were at risk of busting.

While the version that made it to air had the fatal flaw of having a contestant win by doing nothing-their opponent made the wrong call on the last card and lost, this version at least tries to avoid that in the second round by making control of the cards dependent on guessing the outcome of a pre-taped segment, and each line of cards is worth increasing amounts of money, giving contestants ample opportunities to build up their score.

The Money Cards have problems. Instead of securing the contestant's main game winnings, the show divides them into the rows, which are arranged in a three-level pyramid. There exists the possibility of a contestant losing it all on the Major Wager by wagering everything and making the wrong call, leaving an unsatisfying conclusion for the show. Maybe the uneven amount of cards was used to help the budget or make it easier for contestants to reach the final level, but there wasn't anything wrong with have to turn over three cards on the first two lines before they have to make their final bet.

Overall, this had potential. Perhaps reinstating the survey/audience poll/educated guess questions, or making the questions more like those on High Rollers or Gambit-true or false/yes or no/multiple choice would have made for a more solid game, and it would have opened up interaction with the contestants more. Also, securing the contestant's main game winnings and restructure the Money Cards so the champion does not end the show with nothing would have been desirable. Everything else was pretty fine for what they were going for.
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« Reply #218 on: October 01, 2018, 10:18:41 PM »
I still prefer the classic version of card sharks

The set here is nice and i like the sharks logo i think that's pretty cool.

The video questions made the show as someone else pointed out feel like street smarts and candid camera. A few video out come questions would be fine i prefer the "We surveyed 100 people questions" and the Audience polls.

Burton Richardson is a good touch

But other then that this is still a crappy format it still ranks up there with Match Game 98 and Temptation. I still don't understand why they messed up the format but the European/Australian formats are still intact.
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« Reply #219 on: October 01, 2018, 10:42:20 PM »
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« Reply #220 on: November 22, 2018, 11:07:32 PM »
Wink has a treat for us this Thanksgiving:

MG2 from 1996, with Charlene Tilton:

TriBond from 2002, with Cram's Graham Elwood for Game Show Network:

Card Sharks from 1996, with Tom Green (the sportscaster):
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« Reply #221 on: November 23, 2018, 10:09:55 AM »
A trifecta of terrible.

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« Reply #222 on: November 23, 2018, 10:22:15 AM »
Regarding the 1996 CS pilot, I have one pro and one con:

Pro: I like the transparent card suit shapes on the stage. They are a blue hue, as is much of the rest of the set.

Con: The board that holds the cards in the main game is just way too small and simple. Whereas the Perry and Eubanks versions had a casino style to them, there is nothing to see here. Literally, all that has to be done is to find a board and put some shelves on it.
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Re: Wink Martindale's Awesome Non-Price Clips and Episodes: The Ongoing Thread
« Reply #223 on: November 23, 2018, 05:10:27 PM »
Tribond is decent, but I can see why it didn't sell.

i thought Match Game '98 and Card Sharks 2001 were bad, but MG2 and CS 1996 made them look like The Price is Right. All-American TV and Pearson really do know how to trash Goodson's game shows (excluding Price and Family Feud)
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« Reply #224 on: November 23, 2018, 05:20:22 PM »
All-American TV and Pearson really do know how to trash Goodson's game shows (excluding Price and Family Feud)
Including Family Feud, if you ever saw the Anderson years.