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Offline tpirsuperfan99

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Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« on: May 25, 2018, 02:22:25 PM »
I just spent the worst 20 minutes of my life. I watched Card Sharks 2001. This show is an embarrassment. There are so many things wrong. First, they got rid of the survey questions, those were a great part of the game before, they just went straight to the cards. Second, the clip chips were one of the stupidest things ever, and they were a waste of time and they almost had nothing to do with the game. Third, each player should have a block of cards, instead it was one block of seven. You had to use a clip chip to change the card if you didn’t like it. Third, Pat Bullard was just a terrible host, he acted like he was a nice guy, but it seemed like he was trying to play the part of a game show host. The money cards were the only thing that were even done right. I have seen Family Feud with Louie and Match Game 98, those were bad, this is an abomination. This may have been the worst piece of s*** I have ever seen. This was nothing like the Perry and Eubanks version, and this show deserves a special place in hell.

Sorry that I may have gotten really angry there, but I would like to know what your thoughts on this show might be.

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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 03:11:32 PM »
It took you seventeen years to realize that?  :-D  Seriously, the format was so bad, a contestant could actually win even if they didn't do a single thing during that round! I remember seeing one episode where the first player in control got the first six cards called correctly, only to miss the seventh, and have Pat Bullard tell the opponent, "He did all the work, and you ended up getting the money! How cool is that?"

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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2018, 03:42:34 PM »
Until I got GSN in late 2007, this was the only version of Card Sharks I saw, so it took me 6 years to see that Card Sharks actually was a good show and the 2001 version was just a horrible abomination.

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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2018, 04:15:30 PM »
Until I got GSN in late 2007, this was the only version of Card Sharks I saw, so it took me 6 years to see that Card Sharks actually was a good show and the 2001 version was just a horrible abomination.

My thoughts exactly, and I would feel the same where Tic Tac Dough is concerned-- that Wink Martindale was the expert at it, and Jim Caldwell gave it the old college try, but that the 1990 Wayne version was the same way as CS 2001.

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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2018, 10:52:54 PM »
If you didn't realize Bullard's co-host was named Tammy by the end of each episode, given he only said her name approximately 5,000 times per show even when unnecessary to do so, something would have been wrong. 

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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2018, 11:28:42 PM »
The 2001 version is better known in the game show world as CASINO (Card Sharks In Name Only) or Card Guppies.

Ranks right up there with Temptation and Tic Tac Dough '90 as one of the worst game show revivals.
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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2018, 07:39:07 AM »
No, the Money Cards in that 2001 abomination wasn't done right either. The contestant had to play with the money THEY JUST WON, meaning there was a good chance they could go home with diddlysquat! Just super cheap and horrible. One of the few game shows ever made that actually makes me angry thinking about it.
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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2018, 10:53:16 AM »
And they didn't have any returning champions either. I watched a few episodes on YouTube and I didn't like it.

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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2018, 12:47:38 PM »
What I liked: The set was very cool, I liked how the cards dropped down after a round ended. The music was catchy too. And Pat Bullard did the absolute best he could; he's a good host who keeps getting handed bad shows.

What I didn't like: The format was lousy from start to finish, practically undoing all the positives. As mentioned by others, one can win a game by standing there. They also changed the Money Cards rule later on, so a Push was a loss again. (I know at least one person Busted, but I don't recall if any consolation prize was mentioned.) The Clip Chips were a dumb idea as well.

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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2018, 01:58:45 PM »
My opinion: Yeah, they thought it was a good idea and perhaps it played well in test runs.

Maybe if they played a video clip, stopped it for its actual resolution and then asked how many, out of 100 who saw the clip, voted for the actual outcome ... and then added a bonus if the contestant (when given a multiple choice) went with the correct outcome?

But at least keep the survey questions a la the original. That seemed to work best for me.

I might have also gone with this "sudden death tiebreaker play-or-pass" rule: Like late in the CBS run, both contestants are shown their base card and the contestant can opt to pass and force his opponent to change their base card (if it is a good card).

Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2018, 06:11:36 PM »
What's interesting is that the pilot for this show, shot in 2000, planned to incorporate blackjack into the first round, in addition to the high-and-low aspects of the traditional format in rounds two and three. That would have made for a better variety in gameplay. However, it seems the pre-taped dilemmas were the question material for the first two rounds, but the third round hints at traditional survey questions.

Based on my reading of the review, they kept some of the classic format intact, but the second round has the potential to have contestant win by doing nothing because the other player made a mistake on the last card. Also, like the series, the Money Cards remains busted. The contestant's main game winnings are divided amongst the three levels, which means the contestant can bankrupt themselves at the end of the game after working so hard to get there.

There was some potential with this pilot, but I wonder what made them take the second round and make it the meat of the game, along with the broken Money Cards.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2018, 06:21:58 PM »
I wonder what made them take the second round and make it the meat of the game, along with the broken Money Cards.
I'm not sure any explanation is needed besides "it was a Pearson show." Pardon my language, but they had a p*ss-poor reputation for their attempted Goodson revivals in the late 90s-early 00s (Match Game 98, Louie Anderson's Family Feud, O'Hurley's To Tell The Truth, Card Guppies).

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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2018, 08:11:50 PM »
They also did that abortive Beat the Clock on PAX.
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Re: Card Sharks 2001 - Your thoughts
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2018, 11:01:33 PM »
My thoughts exactly, and I would feel the same where Tic Tac Dough is concerned-- that Wink Martindale was the expert at it, and Jim Caldwell gave it the old college try, but that the 1990 Wayne version was the same way as CS 2001.

Eh, to be fair, they at least kept the TTD format mostly intact instead of hacking it to pieces like CS2001. If they had found a better host and fixed the flawed bonus round, it wouldn't have been a bad show.

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2018, 03:55:24 AM »
Eh, to be fair, they at least kept the TTD format mostly intact instead of hacking it to pieces like CS2001. If they had found a better host and fixed the flawed bonus round, it wouldn't have been a bad show.

I know they kept the game generally intact-- that's not the problem (although they erased the pot on ties while increasing the box values).

Like you said, it was the host and bonus game that were the trouble-- the Martindale/Caldwell bonus was finding money or "Tic" and "Tac" on the board before hitting the Dragon; the Wayne bonus, however, was a seriously fouled-up ripoff of the CBS Martindale summer '78 bonus (the summer '78 bonus was about trying to find a hidden 3-in-a-row of Xs or Os before hitting the dragon; the Wayne version was where you had to choose which one you were going for, and it wasn't always possible to find the one you chose in a 3-in-a-row; in that case, only the Dragonslayer could save you; worse, the Dragon even started rapping [granted, it was the times, but I didn't enjoy hearing it]).

Also, Patrick Wayne yelled on practically everything (as in "Youuuuu blockkkkk!" and "Youuuuu winnnnnnn!" [is that a proper approximation of how he sounded?]).