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Offline danderson400

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A what-if for NBC
« on: July 29, 2018, 12:16:00 PM »
If NBC doesn't cancel Sale of The Century and Super Password in 89, i wonder what happens then-does NBC cancel those shows in 90 or 91? what if CBS loses TPIR in 86?

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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2018, 05:23:40 PM »
Didn’t Super Password have terrible ratings most of the run, partly because of the time slot? Surprised it lasted as long as it did.

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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2018, 09:18:44 PM »
I think NBC shouldn't have added another soap opera and simply moved SP to 12:30, kept SOTC at 10am, and left everything else alone.

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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2018, 05:51:20 PM »
Didn’t Super Password have terrible ratings most of the run, partly because of the time slot? Surprised it lasted as long as it did.
It had the second longest run at 12 Noon ET of any NBC daytime show. The longest: Jeopardy! (9/27/65 - 1/4/74).
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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2018, 11:16:31 PM »
Do you have ratings? I remember someone saying the show stayed there as long as it did was because NBC had nothing better to put on. Not sure how accurate that is.

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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2018, 12:53:52 AM »
Super Password had a decent run especially considering the rise in full-length midday newscasts in many markets during the mid-late 80s.  Earlier in the 80s only our ABC affiliate aired a full midday newscast, while the other two stations had a 1 minute update.  By 1989, all three network stations had half-hour newscasts both at noon and 5:00pm.  5:30pm still was a hotbed for syndicated shows like The People's Court and A Current Affair or reruns of the Facts of Life, Cheers, or Who's the Boss? until about 1996 or 97 when the 5pm newscasts were extended for a full hour. 

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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2018, 01:34:58 PM »
Yep, and before long, we'd see the newscasts expand even further, knocking more shows into independent or cable status.
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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2018, 06:28:45 PM »
There were a few affiliates (Mine included) that aired Super Password at different times other than noon.
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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2018, 07:46:42 PM »
Our affiliate (WXIA, Atlanta) never cleared it at all. Not even on delay. They cleared the Scrabble reboot and Scattergories in 1993 on week delay to morning times (NBC aired them at noon and 12:30 respectively). An independent here in the 80s was very good about clearing network shows passed up by the affiliates, but curiously they never considered Super Password.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2018, 08:27:08 AM »
Noon newscasts have actually been around since at least the early '60s, and a TV guide from 1963 I have shows Tulsa's KVOO (NBC) and KOTV (CBS) having them, with the second 15 minutes being more lifestyle oriented, in between the morning game shows and afternoon soaps just like it still is today with CBS. But that half-hour has more or less been the "death slot" if it wasn't moved to another time or station.

Either way, daytime game shows were on the way out by the late '80s/early '90s as fewer people stayed home during the day, and although soaps would remain somewhat popular over the next decade or so (though even those were a bit past their early '80s peak in popularity), the daytime TV landscape was certainly in the direction of news/talk, a lot like what happened to non-music programming on the radio in the '50s, game shows included. In addition, with cable sort of being TV's equivalent of radio's FM band (which also took off in the '50s/'60s), it only meant that the choices were getting more fragmented, and suddenly, the networks had to either to scramble to find more lucrative options (extra news or talk shows), or giving back time to its affiliates. Only CBS today comes close to a daytime schedule from the 1960s-80s.
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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2018, 01:28:52 PM »
Also, USA Network had started doing their game shows block. Either way, daytime game shows were on the way out by the late '80s/early '90s as fewer people stayed home during the day, the daytime TV landscape was certainly in the direction of news/talk. USA(and Lifetime, once they got their game shows going in 91) were the only places to see more than a day.

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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2018, 03:30:32 PM »
Noon newscasts have actually been around since at least the early '60s, and a TV guide from 1963 I have shows Tulsa's KVOO (NBC) and KOTV (CBS) having them, with the second 15 minutes being more lifestyle oriented, in between the morning game shows and afternoon soaps just like it still is today with CBS. But that half-hour has more or less been the "death slot" if it wasn't moved to another time or station.

In the late 50s, our NBC station, which then was WSB, ran a newscast at noon that ran fifteen minutes. They joined NBC's show, Tic Tac Dough, following the midway break for station I.D. WSB was known as one of the first (if not the first) stations to bump network programming for local/syndicated fare.
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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2018, 09:01:52 PM »
It had the second longest run at 12 Noon ET of any NBC daytime show. The longest: Jeopardy! (9/27/65 - 1/4/74).

The demographics were much different back then. Jeopardy!'s primary audience during that time were businessmen taking their lunch breaks. Local news broadcasts didn't really take off until after it was cancelled which was why the late 70s revival tanked after five months.

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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2018, 04:03:46 AM »
Noon newscasts are long-standing. New York is one of the few markets where the network stations didn't offer them, since they originated the network broadcasts. Until 1977, NBC offered affiliates a local half-hour at 1 PM, and ran the network daytime schedule until 4:30 (ET). WSOC, which was then the affiliate in Charlotte, ran a noon newscast and delayed Jeopardy! for an hour until the local slot at 1.

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Re: A what-if for NBC
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2018, 02:04:01 PM »
The demographics were much different back then. Jeopardy!'s primary audience during that time were businessmen taking their lunch breaks. Local news broadcasts didn't really take off until after it was cancelled which was why the late 70s revival tanked after five months.
Jeopardy! 1978 was initially slotted against the first half hour of Price (10:30 ET), then moved to noon in two months. WSB decided to clear Password Plus, which was on at 12:30, on a one week delay to 9:30 AM. WSB started clearing the noon NBC shows on a delay in June 1976.
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