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Offline Mr. Weatherman

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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2019, 09:21:36 PM »
Let’s just forget the 12 hour suggestion was ever made, shall we?  :lol:
Pardon my language, but I do believe we all need to calm the f*** down.

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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2019, 09:23:38 PM »
I am definitely in favour with resurrecting it and I do like the proposed changes and rules. As to the whole response time debate should that maybe be left up to the host?

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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2019, 09:59:02 PM »
Let’s just forget the 12 hour suggestion was ever made, shall we?  :lol:

Agreed.  ;)
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2019, 12:44:30 PM »
I wish I could say I’d have more new ideas to add, but, to continue this important discussion, I would like to say I’m in favor of more Weekly Pricing Games and half-hour shows, as those require less time and contestants. And as I said, I’ve been working on a half-hour script the past few days, and it’s finished at this moment. As such, I truly believe they’d be a great way to get the revamped HYO thread off to a good start so that no one regrets it coming back. However, regardless, I also believe bringing back HYO will be successful, and I think the morale and participation of this forum will be all the better for it.  :-)
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2019, 05:57:33 PM »
I'll chime in later when I have more time- but I too have toyed with rebooting the section. It's been a long time since I've hosted a show, and have that itch... plus I'm sitting on several unused graphics that I'd finally like to use.
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2019, 07:36:59 PM »
I'll chime in later when I have more time- but I too have toyed with rebooting the section. It's been a long time since I've hosted a show, and have that itch... plus I'm sitting on several unused graphics that I'd finally like to use.

I really enjoyed reading your old shows, so I sure hope you can get around to it!

By the way, does anyone have a simple way to figure out prices of trips? I tried doing some research but it was too mind-numbing. Thanks!
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2019, 07:54:17 PM »
I really enjoyed reading your old shows, so I sure hope you can get around to it!

By the way, does anyone have a simple way to figure out prices of trips? I tried doing some research but it was too mind-numbing. Thanks!

Cost of airfare + cost of lodging + whatever other anemities you want to throw in (especially if you're playing a game where you need to fine-tune the price to a specific number)

Trip advisor sites help a ton, especially resources like Google Flights and individual airports' and hotel websites.

But remember--if it's simple for you to figure out, it's also simple for somebody else to figure out, so don't give away too much of the special sauce
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2019, 09:23:11 PM »
But remember--if it's simple for you to figure out, it's also simple for somebody else to figure out, so don't give away too much of the special sauce

This is something some hosts will need to address, myself included.  Giving away even a few key details in a prize description makes Googling the price of a given item super simple.  I would hope most of us wouldn’t stoop to the level of cheating in a free-to-play community forum game with no physical prize offered, but unfortunately, there are some who will anyway (don’t be that person...).
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2019, 09:47:32 PM »
This is something some hosts will need to address, myself included.  Giving away even a few key details in a prize description makes Googling the price of a given item super simple.

I suppose so, but depending on which website I use, the price could vary by a few hundred dollars. (This, some might say, is the reason for Trivago, right?)  :P
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2019, 11:34:08 PM »
even after nearly two decades of existence...

Wow

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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2019, 02:00:06 AM »
Wow

Crazy, isn't it? Technically it is 20 this year going back to the Bravenet days, no? Then you have the brief era when you put up the photo guide pictures around 2002, and the message board came about in 2003. Amazing how much life has personally changed in the 14 years in since joining.

As for this, I've been messaged about it, but I'd honestly want to see some sample scripts from the future hosts before I'd approve this. They need to be quality, thought out, and ultimately a positive representation of the page. Creativity in games, hosting, and prizes, mixed with good hosting and graphics (least of my big five, but it's there) go a long way to impressing me with what you can do.

Scripts will absolutely stay, and one thing I'd like to propose to my fellow staffers is such that this go, the section would be an area where posts simply do not count towards the overall total. This gives an easy reflection to see where quality is trending. Furthermore, if there is a quantity backlog, the easy way to solve this is by letter the better quality shows go first in the queue. You want to host more? Great! Natural competition engenders better production values.

This is something some hosts will need to address, myself included.  Giving away even a few key details in a prize description makes Googling the price of a given item super simple.

It's why CU and I make/made mostly jokes about the products aside from the humor in the descriptions or think of subtle ways to throw you off. Only so much you can do with just the basics of the product. My personal favorite was using a Kia Soul! in Triple Play's second car many moons ago on an offsite page. The Kia Soul was like $15K, the Kia Soul! started at like $16,500. Little bit of an undercut, but it worked. Heck, even using PFP is pretty successful too, or just unusual trim of cars, odd products with various sourcing prices, and so on.
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2019, 06:31:30 PM »
During one of my games, I had someone guess the exact price for season tickets to a minor league baseball team. I don’t know for sure, but my guess is they looked it up. Either that, or they happen to be a huge fan of the team and somehow knew that price.

I did have a hot dog cart as an IUFB (along with groans from the “audience”) just to make it feel like the real show.

I also played Professor Price- and one of the digits was not in the price of the car. I can’t remember how I handled that other than counting it as a wrong answer (I believe showed the number anyway).

One thing I did not do was play games that required a clock or physical skill. This means no Clock Game, Race Game, Hole in One, On the Nose, etc. I just couldn’t come up with a fair enough way to play it. The wheel was the random number job, and I wasn’t happy with it, but since it is a huge part of the game, I had to keep it in.

If this comes back, I hope the hosts use their personality and creativity to come up with some great shows.

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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2019, 01:26:39 PM »
...one thing I'd like to propose to my fellow staffers is such that this go, the section would be an area where posts simply do not count towards the overall total. This gives an easy reflection to see where quality is trending.

I tender that the same should apply to the CSS and FPG as well.

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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2019, 06:08:00 PM »
But remember--if it's simple for you to figure out, it's also simple for somebody else to figure out, so don't give away too much of the special sauce

This is something some hosts will need to address, myself included.  Giving away even a few key details in a prize description makes Googling the price of a given item super simple.  I would hope most of us wouldn’t stoop to the level of cheating in a free-to-play community forum game with no physical prize offered, but unfortunately, there are some who will anyway (don’t be that person...).

When I hosted my shows, with the exception of one episode, I almost always used prizes taken directly from the show (and this was around 2005/2006, when the show's prices were more easily memorizable). It was understood that everybody was on the honor system. And in all of my episodes, there was only one time that I suspected a contestant was looking up the answers. In those rare instances, you keep the game moving, and life goes on.

It's a lighthearted internet game with no actual stakes. If somebody feels like they have to cheat at it, I'm going to feel pity, not anger.
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Re: Is it time to give HYO another try?
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2019, 06:35:05 PM »
When I hosted my shows, with the exception of one episode, I almost always used prizes taken directly from the show (and this was around 2005/2006, when the show's prices were more easily memorizable).

This brings up a very interesting point: can I use the TPIR recaps as my "source" when assembling scripts?
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