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Offline whowouldeverhurtawhammy

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Cliff Hangers strategy/exploit
« on: June 06, 2019, 12:01:37 AM »
I'm not certain if this was ever discussed before, but I've noticed over the years that there's a clear strategy of winning at Cliff Hangers; $20-$30-$40. By bidding on the three items in that order, contestants can easily win the prize...however, like the infamous perfect showcase bid and other studies (as seen in Perfect Bid: The Contestant Who Knew Too Much), is it possible that this strategy could be exploited to the extent that the show would have to alter the game's format?
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Re: Cliff Hangers strategy/exploit
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2019, 12:12:42 AM »
We're well aware.

In fact, even the folks at the show are well aware that we're well aware.

If they believed it was a game-breaking problem, they would have changed it by now. It's not like it would be hard to just use different prices.

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Re: Cliff Hangers strategy/exploit
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2019, 08:15:49 AM »
In the early, pre-Roger years of the game, the prices would often not be in ascending order. By simply bringing this practice back, much like how Spelling Bee does with its prizes, would certainly add a little more to the challenge. It was already easier enough early on when they reduced the SPs from four to three.

It's basically the opposite of Stack the Deck and a cousin of Magic # in terms of easiness. I remember complaining about a decade ago when Pick-a-Pair's pairs were too far apart, leading to a disproportionate amount of wins (>90%). That's where CH stands now. If the win rate with Cliff goes to around the 60-70% range like Pick-a-Pair is now, I'd be much more willingly incline to watch, since while still fairly easy, its enough of a challenge to reward the truly smart shoppers while making those who trust the audience lose on occasion. I'd like to see more $15-$40-$60 setups or even $30-$20-$40 for that matter, especially if played for a car or other $10K+ prize
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Re: Cliff Hangers strategy/exploit
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 09:20:57 AM »
God I hope they consider changing the format in Season 48 on. The simplicity of what the gameplay has become has made my favorite game of all time since childhood almost unwatchable. You know when a pricing game gives away a $70k+ vehicle, or even the $210k win in Big Money Week a few years ago, and the general consensus is ĎMeh that was waaaay too easyí then thatís a problem. Even if the SPís donít exceed $50, just rearranging the order sometimes would increase the challenge and make the Cliff Hangers segments exponentially more interesting.

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Re: Cliff Hangers strategy/exploit
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2019, 11:50:50 AM »
^The Dream Car was a joke, but I thought we established that 20-30-40 gave you something in the range of only $80,000 in that playing, which is still way too much for a freebie, but the $210k was deserved IMO. I think the bigger complaint was that they rushed the segment where she won $210,000.

Frankly, I'm fine with Cliff Hangers being so easy. I just don't want to be the person who plays the game once the hidden rules are broken.
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