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TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« on: November 11, 2019, 09:05:05 PM »
Episode #8891K
Aired – 11/11/2019; Taped – 9/15/2019
Models: James O'Hallaran, Melissa Ordway
Microphone Handoff: Melissa
First Four Contestant Seating: Left to Right

First IUFB: His & hers gold package (13-piece golf club sets with lighter head weights, grip weights, shaft weights; two cart bags, 12-piece ball set); ARP: $2,423 (James)

ROBERT ESTEVAN DAPHNE JOAQUIN
1150 1200 1575 1

The winner is...
DAPHNE


Daphne, a cryptologist in the Navy, is playing SWITCH? for:

  • Trip to Colorado (RT coach to Denver, CO, 5n in an executive suite @ Halcyon, daily breakfast, private golf lesson for two) (Melissa)
  • Trip to Washington, D.C. (RT coach to Washington, DC, 5n in a superior room @ Omni Shoreham Hotel, daily breakfast and dinner, private yacht cruise on Potomac River) (James)

These prices are either correct or need to be switched:

COLORADO   WASHINGTON
$8,061   $7,187
SWITCH?   SWITCH?

Daphne chooses to switch...

COLORADO   WASHINGTON
$7,187   $8,061
$7,187 WIN $8,061

Second IUFB: Laptop (2.3 GHz gaming laptop, 15.6" full HD IPS display, 8GB, 1TB hybrid); ARP: $725 (Melissa)

ROBERT ESTEVAN TERRY JOAQUIN
700 1 675 676

The winner is...
ROBERT


Robert, who served in Vietnam in the Army in the 101st Airborne Division, is playing Card Game for a 2019 Ford EcoSport S crossover (1.0L, 6-speed AT, FWD, paint/fabric protection, first aid kit, roadside assistance kit, soft cooler bag) (James).

The starting price is
$15,000
. The target range is
$2,000
Robert draws a
4♠
.
$15,400
Robert draws a
3♣
.
$15,700
Robert draws a
Q♦
.
$16,700
Robert draws a
2♣
.
$16,900
Robert draws a
5♣
.
$17,400
Robert draws a
4♥
.
$17,800
Robert draws a
5♦
.
$18,300
Robert draws a
A♥
.
$18,700
Robert stops at
$18,700
ARP is
$21,799
For a difference of
$3,099
LOSS

Third IUFB: Smart fitness trackers (Elite Fitness Essentials: two watches, three trackers; everyone in the audience gets a tracker); ARP: $820 (Melissa)

AUDREY ESTEVAN TERRY JOAQUIN
999 700 825 826

The winner is...
ESTEVAN


Estevan, a special operations cook in the Army, is playing It's In The Bag for a chance to win up to $16,000.

Grocery items:

  • Nestle Raisinets (3.5 oz)
  • Purina Cat Chow (50.4 oz)
  • Glade air freshener (6.2 oz)
  • Kettle barbeque chips (8.5 oz)
  • ZzzQuil gummies (42 ct)
  • Welch's grape juice (64 oz)
CANDY
SLEEP AID
CAT FOOD
POTATO CHIPS
JUICE

$1.29
$14.57
$6.99
$2.99
$4.49

CANDY
SLEEP AID
CAT FOOD
POTATO CHIPS
JUICE

$1,000
$2,000
$4,000
$8,000
$16,000
**WIN**

SCSD #1

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Robert $725 45 5 .50
Estevan $16,820 85 stay .85
Daphne $17,671 95 stay .95 *SHOWCASE*

Fourth IUFB: Party appliance package (Danby: wine cooler with 38-bottle capacity, single-tap keg cooler, portable ice maker); ARP: $1,538 (James)

AUDREY VAITOELAU TERRY JOAQUIN
1203 1200 1201 890

The winner is...
AUDREY


Audrey, from the U.S. Navy, is playing Coming or Going for a home theater (two recliners, seat two, tailored stitched tufted back cushions, USB charging ports; 86" UHD LED smart 4K 240Hz TV, Blu-Ray player; surround system with 48" sound bar, 8" wireless subwoofer, two speakers) (Melissa).

6 1 4 8 4 1 6
COMING -or- GOING

Audrey sets the price to:

8 4 1 6
COMING -or- GOING

ARP: $6,148. LOSS.

Fifth IUFB: Trip to San Diego (RT limo to Del Mar, CA, 3n in a coastal fireplace room @ L'Auberge Del Mar, daily breakfast, surf lesson for two, jet ski rental for two); ARP: $4,740 (Melissa)

ANDREA VAITOELAU TERRY JOAQUIN
1350 1351 1750 1

The winner is...
TERRY


Terry, a heavy equipment operator in the Air Force, is playing SECRET X for a watercraft (Sea-Doo: Spark 2up, Rotax 900 Ace engine, intelligent throttle control, intelligent brake and reverse, trailer); ARP: $6,798. (James)

Terry places the free X...

The small prizes are:

  1. Smart Garage Opener
  2. Electric Panini Press
X
?
 
 
?
 
 
?
 

$23
$50
Garage Opener

$23
$50
$50
X
?
X
 
?
 
 
?
 

$35
$84
Panini Press

$35
$84
$35
X
?
X
 
?
 
 
?
 

The secret X is revealed...
X
 
X
 
X
 
 
 
 

LOSS (Total winnings: $50)

Joaquin could end today in The Tank. Will he be able to make it out?

Sixth IUFB: iPhone (iPhone XS, 256GB); ARP: $1,149 (James)

ANDREA VAITOELAU DAVID JOAQUIN
900 901 1200 1099

The winner is...
JOAQUIN


Joaquin, who served 10 years each in the Air Force and the Army, is playing Money Game for a 2019 Chevrolet Sonic S (1.4L, 6-speed AT, FWD, sport pedal kit) (Melissa).

MONEY GAME

    72 48 17
    16 90 31
    54 18 63
    F 6 R

Guess: 16

16   72 48 17
    $ 90 31
    54 18 63
    F 6 R

Guess: 17

16   72 48 F
    $ 90 31
    54 18 63
    17 6 R

Guess: 48

16   72 $ F
48   $ 90 31
    54 18 63
    17 6 R

Guess: 90

16   72 $ F
48   $ R 31
    54 18 63
    17 6 90

WIN (Total winnings: $17,754)

SCSD #2

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Audrey $1,538 90 stay .90 *OVERTIME*
Terry $4,790 90 stay .90 *OVERTIME*
Joaquin $18,903 75 30 1.05
OVER


Contestant Winnings Spin TOTAL RESULT
Audrey $1,538 60 .60
Terry $4,790 65 .65 *SHOWCASE*

THE FABULOUS SHOWCASES

Daphne has the honors...

SC1 - Daphne

ALL-AMERICAN
  • Trip to the Grand Canyon (RT coach to Phoenix, AZ, 5n @ Clarendon Hotel and Spa, daily breakfast, 1-day excursion to Grand Canyon) (James)
  • Backyard (Cal Flame: Barbecue kitchen island, two-tone porcelain tile countertop, built-in four-burner gas grill; Original Pawleys Island: durawood poly lumber table, 42" bar height, two seats) (Melissa)
  • 2019 Ford Ranger XLT 4x2 Crew Cab (2.3L, 10-speed AT, equipment group 301A, trailer tow package, chrome appearance package, technology package) (James)
Bid: $30,000

SC2 - Terry

TAKING CARE OF YOU
  • Trip to Maui (RT coach to Maui, HI, 5n in an ocean bungalow with private lanai @ Travaasa Hana Maui, three meals per day, daily $350 credit for spa treatments, private daily meditation and exercise classes) (James)
  • 2019 Cadillac ATS stellar black metallic luxury coupe (2L, 8-speed AT, RWD, power sunroof, kona brown semi-aniline leather, safety and security package) (Melissa)
Bid: $45,000
Daphne
$30,000
ARIZONA/TRUCK
$42,901
$12,901
ARIZONA/TRUCK
*WIN*
$60,572
Terry
$45,000
MAUI/CADILLAC
$59,677
$14,677
MAUI/CADILLAC

Results: 3 out of 6
Winnings: $103,348
Biggest Winner: Daphne

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2019, 09:39:12 PM »
That was a pretty good show, except Card Game had the potential to be evil, as not even $19,700 would've covered the spread, and Terry had rare bad luck on Secret "X" by missing out on the second SP and then losing out on the watercraft. But I'm so glad that It's in the Bag had a $16,000 winner :mrgreen:

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2019, 09:54:47 PM »
If I had played Cardy today and drew the ace, I'd have set the price at $20000. That means with the ace today, I'd have lost with the $1000 range but would have won with the $2000 played under today.

Baggy was totally awesome baby! Estevan went all in on himself and his picks and it paid off with a full $16000 win.  This was the segment of the show  for sure.

Great to end the day with a Money Game win. People should know better than to pick the season number in Money by now but Joaquin made a nice recovery to win the Chevy Sonic.

All and all a pretty good dwy.
Adjustments that should be made to pricing games to make them fairer: Secret X: Add a 3rd SP so that perfect pricing ensures a win. 1/2 Off: Add a 4th set of SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win. Master Key: Add 2 more SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win. Rat Race: Add 2 more SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win.

The following pricing games should be retired because there's no way or no easy way to make them fair: Spelling Bee, Plinko, Punch a Bunch, Pass the Buck, Let em Roll, 3 Strikes.

The following retired pricing games should be revived: $uper $aver, Give or Keep, Buy or Sell, Hurdles, Bump, Penny Ante, Credit Card, On the Spot, Split Decision, Add em Up, Walk of Fame, Barker's Markers, Magic Number.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2019, 11:22:00 AM »
Someone really needs to point out to Drew that when he fans the cards out on the new, larger Card Game table, he makes it so the contestant literally cannot reach some of the cards from their spot at the table. The table is so large and Drew does a very poor job using the right parts of the table to play the game. I can’t be the only one who notices this.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2019, 11:38:58 AM »
Someone really needs to point out to Drew that when he fans the cards out on the new, larger Card Game table, he makes it so the contestant literally cannot reach some of the cards from their spot at the table. The table is so large and Drew does a very poor job using the right parts of the table to play the game. I can’t be the only one who notices this.

I wonder if the producers, knowing this, purposely put the aces near the top of the deck, so that when the deck is fanned out the aces end up near the scoreboard, out of the contestant's reach. I doubt it, however; doing so would seem to me like an S&P issue, because the contestant is purposely being put at a disadvantage, but it's an interesting thought.
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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2019, 01:25:07 PM »
I really think people overthink things.  There’s nothing stopping the contestant from walking over to an out of reach card and grabbing it, right?  No physical barrier, and no one telling them “these cards over here - you.... you just can’t have them”

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2019, 02:21:49 PM »
Well, yeah, but people generally don't do that. After all, "one card is as good as any other, so why bother to go allllll the way over there for something when the same exact thing is available right in front of me?"
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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2019, 02:48:22 PM »
But when you start espousing conspiracy theories about stacked decks, or tables designed to make the game hard to play, that's when you are getting into overthinking things territory.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2019, 02:53:31 PM »
Well, yeah, but people generally don't do that. After all, "one card is as good as any other, so why bother to go allllll the way over there for something when the same exact thing is available right in front of me?"

Except...it's not "the same exact thing." There are 52 cards in a regulation card deck far as I know, and no two are identical. The contestant is in no way disadvantaged as long as all 52 cards that are supposed to be there are there.

Casey's right--knock it off with the conspiracy theories.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2019, 03:20:37 PM »
There's no S&P issue here. If Cardy is set up so that contestants are less likely to draw the ace, that's really no different from difficult price setups in Lucky and Stacky. It might make the game less winnable but would not create an S&P issue. The only way there could be an S&P issue would be if they deliberately excluded the ace from the deck of cards in a particular playing. Otherwise no S&P issue.
Adjustments that should be made to pricing games to make them fairer: Secret X: Add a 3rd SP so that perfect pricing ensures a win. 1/2 Off: Add a 4th set of SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win. Master Key: Add 2 more SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win. Rat Race: Add 2 more SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win.

The following pricing games should be retired because there's no way or no easy way to make them fair: Spelling Bee, Plinko, Punch a Bunch, Pass the Buck, Let em Roll, 3 Strikes.

The following retired pricing games should be revived: $uper $aver, Give or Keep, Buy or Sell, Hurdles, Bump, Penny Ante, Credit Card, On the Spot, Split Decision, Add em Up, Walk of Fame, Barker's Markers, Magic Number.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2019, 07:37:06 PM »
I think the difficulty with reaching the cards distant from the contestant is an issue.  Heck, didn't Roger admit that the highest option on the Cover Up board was an issue for shorter contestants? Since then the correct digit is never in the top spot.

That being said, I don't believe that they are stacking the deck in Card Game.

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2019, 08:14:05 PM »
Again, nothing stops you from grabbing any card from the deck you want.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2019, 08:16:00 PM »
That being said, I don't believe that they are stacking the deck in Card Game.

I never said they were. I'm just saying they could, theoretically. I know I didn't say that in my original post but that was my intent.
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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2019, 08:24:24 PM »
I'm just saying they could, theoretically.

That's absurd. Stacking the deck, or rigging any game in any form for that matter, is unlawful and would result in a massive lawsuit, and is therefore practically (as opposed to theoretically) impossible. It doesn't matter if you said they were or not--you raised the idea, and we're right to call you out on how massively unrealistic it is.

My suggestion to you from now on--think before you post. If something's blatantly against the law, it's not going to do you any favors to speculate about possible ways they could be doing it. It's also rather silly to raise a possibility, and then say that you doubt they're doing it. If you doubt they're doing it to begin with...why even bring it up?
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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/11/2019 (TPiR Season 48 Veterans' Day Special)
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2019, 09:56:40 PM »
^I'll defend his logic on the fact that from the evidence I collected for Card Game, the range cards aren't randomly shuffled. There is evidence to suggest that the cards near the ends , on average, are worth more than the cards closest to the center of the contestants, and the card furthest away from the contestant, on average, had the highest value. Although Casey is right in saying there is nothing preventing them from picking any range card they want, the reality is that across 97 recorded playings, only three people chose the range card furthest away from them.

However, Drew explicitly stated during this taping that the deck was shuffled and cut before the show, so you can't make the same argument regarding the aces in the deck. Since that is explicitly stated, that is illegal.
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