The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV

[pricefan18]

Well, I guess I'll just have to sit outside on the sidelines up here in Canada (Seriously, why is geofencing still a thing, especially when they're making their YouTube clips available outside the U.S.?  No, I'm not going to backdoor it.  That would be illegal.).  Perhaps they'll reconsider at some point, but regardless, but the fact is it is extremely impressive to see these reruns happening in Barker's lifetime.  Sure, let's hope someday even more common sense prevails that we'll get to see shows from the first ten seasons, nighttime shows and episodes on demand (not sure what the sense is in a 24-hour channel with the same episodes cycling over and over, which will probably still be the case even when they have more episodes digitized).  For now, this move is long overdue and much appreciated.

I think the cycling is a way to allow people awake at any time, or available to at any time, to watch the same episodes others would, which makes sense to me actually. Only so much time you can spend in front of monitor.....as I found out yesterday trying to watch the first 9 and what I thought might be even more later. I'm good with 6 a day, as long as they keep going through em consistently.

[actual_retail_tice]

Just thought I´d add in which cars were frequently seen on the show in what price range at that time:

In the $6,000 range: Ford Escort, Mercury Lynx, Chevrolet Chevette, Pontiac T1000, Mazda GLC (Great Little Car) hatchback coupe , Isuzu Pickup, Fiat Strada
In the $7,000 range: Pontiac J2000, Isuzu Sedan, Ford Mustang (it wasn't really what it is today), Mazda GLC Sedan
In the $8,000s-$9,000s: Pontiac Phoenix, Chrysler LeBaron, Dodge 400, Jeep Renegade, Chevy Impala
$10,000+: Chevy Monte Carlo, Pontiac Trans Am, Chevrolet Camaro

[Nick]

Because tastes evolve over the years. These shows from the 80s are Price in their prime, yes... but that was the 1980s. This is 2020. Times change. Technology changes. The host has changed, and has made the show his own.

But I would argue that there is a "best way" to how The Price Is Right should be produced.  Here we see the best way in action.  The current way is not the best way, even if it does survive.

the set actually looks so much darker with all that black space around the doors and turntable

This was a good thing.  Your attention should be drawn to the set pieces and the "areas of action", if you will.  Why they started re-purposing so much of the set to draw attention to "dead zones" never made sense to me.  There's a central point to the action, and drawing in parts that don't pertain just make things look busy.

the relatively bland color scheme of everything else makes the whole thing look dull.

Not sure what you're referring to as bland, but I would say the current doors, for instance, with is many embedded shapes and bright lights is just too busy.  The set used to be soft on the eyes, and I would say that was better.

[therealcu2010]

This was a good thing.  Your attention should be drawn to the set pieces and the "areas of action", if you will.  Why they started re-purposing so much of the set to draw attention to "dead zones" never made sense to me.  There's a central point to the action, and drawing in parts that don't pertain just make things look busy.

Because said "dead zones" stick out far more like a sore thumb in 16:9 HD with its larger frame (and the fact that screens in general are considerably larger than they used to be) than 4:3 SD. It looks like crap. The MDS specials they did in season 36 in HD really put the difference in perspective... the turntable in particular looked cramped.

I'm not saying that the set looked terrible in 1982. I'm sure it looked great on CRT TVs in 1982. Using the 1982 set and color scheme in 2020 would be terrible.

I generally agree with you that the Barker era was far superior to the show that's on now, and I much prefer these episodes to the ones now with Drew Carey. I flipped it on earlier and saw a classic Nothing But Furniture showcase and legitimately teared up. I'm just saying that what worked back then doesn't work anymore, and I'm sure if you ask most of our newer, younger members, they would probably prefer Drew's shows. Let's enjoy these classic episodes while we have them and not turn this into a "Bob vs. Drew" or a "one way is better than the other", because when it comes to art (which television, being a form of visual media, certainly is), there is no "one best way"... it's all subjective, and it evolves with time.

[mellongraig]

Those people outside the US who aren't able to access the channel, all hope is not lost. You can use any type of VPN as long it is connected to the US like I do and then you should have access to it in no problem.

It could have been possible that Yvonne may have been on the show before and sometimes those may have been slipped on by the staff (if it was daytime, though nighttime can be considered a separate entity back in the day). Maybe that was also the same case for Susan when the next batch will begin tomorrow.

[Nick]

Because said "dead zones" stick out far more like a sore thumb in 16:9 HD with its larger frame (and the fact that screens in general are considerably larger than they used to be) than 4:3 SD. It looks like crap.

I disagree.  When I am watching the show, I'm focusing on a central point of action (i.e. the game board, the contestant's face, etc.).  The dead zones aren't even in my perspective.

I generally agree with you that the Barker era was far superior to the show that's on now, and I much prefer these episodes to the ones now with Drew Carey. I flipped it on earlier and saw a classic Nothing But Furniture showcase and legitimately teared up. I'm just saying that what worked back then doesn't work anymore

I would disagree that it does work today, or if not, then The Price Is Right doesn't work anymore, but hey, it had a good run of being a great show.

when it comes to art (which television, being a form of visual media, certainly is), there is no "one best way"... it's all subjective, and it evolves with time.

I'm not going to belabour my point, but I would disagree that it is subjective.  There are inherent qualities, methods and parts to the execution of The Price Is Right that made it a better show in 1982 than in 2020.  That could be a separate thread, but my position is there is a "best way", and it's been a long time since the "best way" was followed.

Those people outside the US who aren't able to access the channel, all hope is not lost. You can use any type of VPN as long it is connected to the US like I do and then you should have access to it in no problem.

That's illegal, immoral and probably contrary to the terms of your ISP and PlutoTV's terms of service at the same time.  I would not encourage this kind of behaviour.

[pricefan18]

This is interesting, re: YouTube uploads, they may not be safe entirely it seems now. Per a post over at the Game Show Forum....

"Imad Khuri uploads a metric ton of TPIR to YouTube. Back in early November, he noted that Fremantle took down a slew of of his episodes...all of them from season 11. Along comes the Pluto channel, and whaddya know, they exclusively have season 11.

It seems that they'll leave episodes alone if Pluto's not going to air them in the forseeable future, but if they are, off they go."

[SteveGavazzi]

That's illegal, immoral and probably contrary to the terms of your ISP and PlutoTV's terms of service at the same time.  I would not encourage this kind of behaviour.

Nick, I understand that you're a very religious person, but this is pretty silly.

[Briguy]

Just thought I´d add in which cars were frequently seen on the show in what price range at that time:

In the $6,000 range: Ford Escort, Mercury Lynx, Chevrolet Chevette, Pontiac T1000, Mazda GLC (Great Little Car) hatchback coupe , Isuzu Pickup, Fiat Strada
In the $7,000 range: Pontiac J2000, Isuzu Sedan, Ford Mustang (it wasn't really what it is today), Mazda GLC Sedan
In the $8,000s-$9,000s: Pontiac Phoenix, Chrysler LeBaron, Dodge 400, Jeep Renegade, Chevy Impala
$10,000+: Chevy Monte Carlo, Pontiac Trans Am, Chevrolet Camaro

Whenever did they offer a Chevrolet Impala on TPiR in 1982-1983 era? I'd think that optioned up, even with it being the lower-level of the two full-sized Chevrolet models of the era (the Caprice Classic was the luxury model), it would generally be more expensive than $10,000 – likely $10,000-$11,000 as typically optioned with the more expensive Caprice generally going above $12,500.

Anyhow, to add ... the Golden Road cars I've seen so far per episodes that have been uploaded to video sharing: the Chrysler LeBaron convertible, Oldsmobile Toronado, Cadillac Cimmaron and the Toyota motorhome w/Dolphin shell. I also think they had the Ford Mustang GLX convertible at least once, as did the Datsun 280ZX coupe. The 1984 Chevrolet Corvette didn't come out until late in the 1982-1983 taping season and I'd imagine that if offered it was only once or twice and very late in the spring of 1983, and I'm sure the Cadillac Fleetwood was not offered this season.

Also in the $7000-$9000 range, the Ford Fairmont, which was in its last year of production in 1983. (Not Thairmont or other misspellings as I've seen on here.)

Brian

[TPIRfan#9821]

"Imad Khuri uploads a metric ton of TPIR to YouTube. Back in early November, he noted that Fremantle took down a slew of of his episodes...all of them from season 11. Along comes the Pluto channel, and whaddya know, they exclusively have season 11.

It seems that they'll leave episodes alone if Pluto's not going to air them in the forseeable future, but if they are, off they go."

I would ask Imad Khuri if the entire episode was blocked, or if it was only one segment. Someone in the Discord tested out uploading one 30-minute segment, just to demonstrate how the audio got skewed off, and the reason it was blocked wasn't because of the whole episode, but of only one pricing game segment. That same segment was also uploaded to the Barker Era YouTube channel the day after. I think Content ID is only blocking the best moments already uploaded to that YouTube channel scheduled to be released technically, and not the full episode.

For lack of a better term, TPiR Barker Era has made me nostalgic for an era I wasn't alive for. It's amazing on how natural the contestant interactions feel, and I understand why people say the show was better in the past then now.  But, at the same time, I know we can never have *exactly* what made the show so good back then now (although I'd argue current LMAD hits pretty close solely in the contestant interactions department), and there's a reason why I liked the current show enough to attend tapings and hear the three words we want to hear - "COME ON DOWN!"

[actual_retail_tice]

I can’t remember a specific instance of an Impala being offered, but I’m fairly sure it happened.

Although Golden Road cars were much nicer than cars usually offered on the show, I don’t think they started offering the dream cars we’re more used to until 5-digit cars starting appearing in other games. I guess once GR lost the distinction of being the only game with 5-digit cars, they upgraded the prizes to keep the game special.

[SeaBreeze341]

This is interesting, re: YouTube uploads, they may not be safe entirely it seems now. Per a post over at the Game Show Forum....

"Imad Khuri uploads a metric ton of TPIR to YouTube. Back in early November, he noted that Fremantle took down a slew of of his episodes...all of them from season 11. Along comes the Pluto channel, and whaddya know, they exclusively have season 11.

It seems that they'll leave episodes alone if Pluto's not going to air them in the forseeable future, but if they are, off they go."

What about the episodes that have been on YouTube for years, including years like 2012 before Pluto was even founded?


I think it's smart to do that.  Otherwise, what would be the point of watching.  Several might not like it, but if it'll air in the foreseeable future, for the most part it's not a big deal

[pricefan18]

What about the episodes that have been on YouTube for years, including years like 2012 before Pluto was even founded?

I think it's smart to do that.  Otherwise, what would be the point of watching.  Several might not like it, but if it'll air in the foreseeable future, for the most part it's not a big deal

Of Season 11? Good question, might be just episodes they are to air, and more because of specific segments they've singled out for use on their social media. That'd make sense. I do hope they create an on demand channel for the shows at some point as they get further into the run. I'd wonder if they would plan that at some point, I know some have wanted something like that for years and years since they began streaming/archiving the regular show online.

I also wonder something else too.....given they've created a channel just for Barker's era, titled specifically as such, do you imagine down the line they may do similar for the modern era with Drew? I could see them trying it, I mean they got 13 years and counting of shows to pull from now including many Primetime Specials, and given they have found a way to get the old shows visible somewhere, I'd suspect the barrier to getting more recent ones seen as well would be less than it woulda been before.

[urbanpreppie0004]

Hopefully, that is years off. But I could see it happening.

And I say this as a fan of the Drew Carey Era (minus a few seasons).

[mellongraig]

I can’t remember a specific instance of an Impala being offered, but I’m fairly sure it happened.

Although Golden Road cars were much nicer than cars usually offered on the show, I don’t think they started offering the dream cars we’re more used to until 5-digit cars starting appearing in other games. I guess once GR lost the distinction of being the only game with 5-digit cars, they upgraded the prizes to keep the game special.

Even though contestants back then were generally one and done, there was also a winnings limit imposed by the network back in the day. Once that increased and later eliminated the prize value went up as the years went on.