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TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« on: December 16, 2020, 01:36:53 PM »
Episode #9233K
Aired – 12/16/2020; Taped – 10/20/2020
Models: Manuela Arbelaez, Amber Lancaster
Microphone Handoff: N/A (due to COVID19)
First Four Contestant Seating: 1, 3, 2, 4

First IUFB: iPhone (Apple: 128GB iPhone 11 with 12MP camera; bluetooth car key track, wifi garage hub; ARP: $834 (Manuela)

MARC FELICIA MIKAELA ADAM
1199 1195 1 799

The winner is...
ADAM


Adam is playing Spelling Bee for a 2020 Nissan Versa S (1.6L engine, 5-speed MT, FWD, splash guards; ARP: $15,890) (Amber).

Free picks:
11
24
1) Thermos Food Container
Guess: $26
28
Diff: $2
13
2) Bluetooth Speaker
Guess: $42
37
Diff: $5
21
3) Wine Aerator
Guess: $48
41
Diff: $7
1
$$
$$
$$
$$
$$
$$
$$
$$
$$
A
$$
$$
$$
A
$$
$$
A
$$
C
A
A
C
A

LOSS (Total Winnings: $106)

Second IUFB: Pilates Reformer (Balanced Body: solid maple pilates reformer); ARP: $2,795 (Amber)

MARC FELICIA MIKAELA JULIA
750 900 1200 1900

The winner is...
JULIA


Julia, an accounting intern, is playing SWITCH? for:

  1. Designer Handbags (Coach: 2 hobo bags, crossbody bags, tote, satchel, bucket bag) (Amber)
  2. Television (55in smart OLED 4K television with universal remote) (Manuela)

These prices are either correct or need to be switched:

DESIGNER BAGS   4K HDTV
$2135   $3150
SWITCH?   SWITCH?

Julia chooses to switch...

DESIGNER BAGS   4K HDTV
$3150   $2135
$2135 LOSS $3150

Third IUFB: Pair of Electronic Music Controllers (64-pad matrix music controllers); ARP: $1,509 (Manuela)

MARC FELICIA MIKAELA TANYA
1001 1200 1500 1000

The winner is...
MIKAELA


Mikaela is playing BALANCE GAME for a trip to Virginia Beach (RT Coach to Norfolk, VA then to Virginia Beach for a 5n stay at the Cavalier Hotel and Beach Club + distillery tasting tour, access to private beach club) (Amber).

Bags: $104, $2000, $4000, $6000

Mikaela places $104 on the the scale.

Mikaela places $2000 and $4000: 6104

Manuela places the bag on the scale...


$104
$2000
$4000
TRIP

ARP: 8104

Result: LOSS

SCSD #1

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Adam $940 40 50 .90 *SHOWCASE*
Mikaela $1,509 80 95 1.75
OVER
Julia $2,795 80 50 1.30
OVER

Fourth IUFB: Cookware (Meyer Housewares Canada: Stainless steel 3 saucepans, dutch oven, steamer, stockpot, 2 frypans); ARP: $1,320 (Amber)

MARC FELICIA ELVIA TANYA
1200 1000 900 950

The winner is...
MARC


Marc, a high school agriculture teacher, is playing That's Too Much for a 2021 Honda Insight LX (1.5L gas-electric engine, ECVT, FWD, paint/fabric protection) (Manuela).

$20,841
$21,962
$23,312
$24,891
$26,649
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
ARP:
$24,637
LOSS
$20,841
$21,962
$23,312
$24,891
$26,649
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $

Fifth IUFB: Desktop Computer (32in all-in-one computer with 16GB memory, 1TB HD, 512GB SSD, Canon printer); ARP: $2,500 (Manuela)

BRANDI FELICIA ELVIA TANYA
1250 1000 1500 1150

The winner is...
ELVIA


Elvia, a nurse, is playing Danger Price for:

  1. Air Hockey Table (Round air hockey table with light up goal indicator) (Amber)
  2. Firepit (Firetainment: 42in firepit table) (Amber)
  3. Pair of Scooters (Scooters with 3 performance settings and helmets) (Manuela)
  4. Fridge (Double-drawer stainless steel fridge) (Manuela)
$1398
FIRETABLE
SCOOTERS
HOCKEY
FRIDGE
$1398
FIRETABLE
$1398
HOCKEY
FRIDGE
$1398
$2932
$1398
$900
$3599

LOSS. (So, apparently the show goofed in some fashion and found out that something on Danger Price was incorrect. As a result, it was announced in credits that Elvia would be awarded her prizes. However, as these were done in retrospect, they don't count to the winnings.)

This has been a very frustrating show through 5 games. To make things, the limo is coming. Felicia has been here all show. Now, she either will take a trip to Quinton, New Jersey or have a chance to break the odor of 5 losses.

Sixth IUFB: Pair of Thermostat Bracelets (Temperature bracelets with 2 extra nylon bands); ARP: $668 (Amber)

BRANDI FELICIA JONATHAN TANYA
632 499 600 550

The winner is...
BRANDI


Felicia departs while Brandi, a day care operator, is playing Hi-Lo for a trip to Puerto Vallarta (RT Coach to Puerto Vallarta, MX for a 6n stay in a deluxe oceanview room at the Villa Premiere Boutique Hotel and Romantic Getaway + daily breakfast, guided snorkeling adventure; ARP: $6,400) (Manuela).

Grocery items:

  1. Weber Dry Smoking Rub Seasoning (10oz)
  2. Ronzoni SuperGreens Vegetable Rotini (12oz)
  3. Twix Two Right Candy Bar (2pk)
  4. Stella Parmesan Cheese Wedge (5oz)
  5. Loreal Paris Permanent Hair Colour (1 applicator)
  6. Ruffles Party Size Potato Chips (13.5oz)
$3.99 $12.99 $6.49
CHEESE HAIR COLOUR SEASONING
$1.29 $2.99 $5.29
CANDY PASTA CHIPS

SKUNKED

SCSD #2

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Brandi $668 20 95 1.15
OVER
Marc $1,320 35 80 1.15
OVER
Elvia $2,500 75 .75 *SHOWCASE*

THE FABULOUS SHOWCASES

Elvia has the honors...

SC1 - Elvia

SAY CHEESE
  • Camera (Nikon: D5600 24.2MP DSLR camera with 18-55mm, 70-300mm lenses) (Manuela)
  • Trip to Santa Ynez (RT Rental Car to Santa Ynez Valley for a 3n stay in a deluxe room at the Santa Ynez inn + daily breakfast, daily wine and cheese hour, full day winery tour with tastings) (Manuela)
  • 2020 Ford EcoSport S (1L engine, 6-speed AT, FWD, paint/fabric protection) (Amber)
Bid: $18,500

SC2 - Adam

COME RAIN OR SHINE
  • Designer Gear (His and her collection with backpack, rubber boots and jacket for him; nylon tote, boots, jackets, umbrella for her) (Amber)
  • Trip to Seattle (RT Coach to Seattle, WA for a 5n stay in a 2br luxury property courtesy of Seattle Vacation Home) (Amber)
  • Backyard (CozyDays: resin wicker patio set with sofa, 2 chairs and coffee table) (Amber)
  • 2021 Mazda MX-5 Miata 30th Anniversary Convertible (2L engine, 6-speed MT, RWD, paint/fabric protection) (Manuela)
Bid: $24,278
Elvia
$18,500
SANTAYNEZ/CAR
$25,382
$6,882
SANTAYNEZ/CAR
*WIN*
$27,882
Adam
$24,278
SEATTLE/CAR
$43,643
$19,365
SEATTLE/CAR

So apparently, the staff at The Price is Right decided to let Adam have one of the As from the Spelling Bee board that cost him a win. A nice gesture by the powers that be in Studio 33.

Results: 0 out of 6 (skunked)
Real-Time Winnings: $35,114
Post-Show Winnings: $43,943
Biggest Winner: Elvia

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2020, 02:00:50 PM »
Spelling Bee: OUCH. Adam deserved so much better. His SP guesses didn't end in 0 or 5, and he even started with the two cards that I recommend in my strategy guide! At least they gave him an "A" card as a souvenir  :lol: :lol:.

Danger Price: During the closing credits, the following was part of the on-screen text:

Quote from: Fremantle
Due to an incorrect price being revealed during gameplay of Danger Price, the contestant was awarded all prizes. This did not affect the outcome of the show.

I'd love to hear the details of that.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2020, 02:24:06 PM »
Tough luck on Spelling Bee, but what a cool gesture by the show to give Adam an "A"!
Would've fell into the same cheese trap on Hi-Lo.
Seems like showcase bids have been all over the place lately.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2020, 03:09:59 PM »
I'd love to hear the details of that.

We all discussed this on discord after the show , we came to a determination that that Danger Price was just for the scooters ( the 3 other prizes were accounted for when it comes to prices ) They forgot to add the amount of the helmets to the total with the scooters.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2020, 03:13:23 PM »
The Danger Price thing is really confusing. Like, if the outcome of the game wasn't affected then why are the prizes being awarded. Also, the only way a contestant could be disadvantaged in Danger Price would be if the price of the danger prize was wrong. The other prices being wrong actually wouldn't affect the game. Today's contestant picked the danger price 1st and lost straight away. The only possible disadvantage is if the price of the danger prize is wrong. And if the outcome of the game wasn't affected then why award the prizes.

Giving Adam the A card from Spelling Bee reminded me a bit of the voided checks given to contestants who lose Check Game in terms of the "souvenir" aspect of it.
Adjustments that should be made to pricing games to make them fairer: Secret X: Add a 3rd SP so that perfect pricing ensures a win. 1/2 Off: Add a 4th set of SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win. Master Key: Add 2 more SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win. Rat Race: Add 2 more SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win.

The following pricing games should be retired because there's no way or no easy way to make them fair: Spelling Bee, Plinko, Punch a Bunch, Pass the Buck, Let em Roll.

The following retired pricing games should be revived: $uper $aver, Give or Keep, Buy or Sell, Hurdles, Bump, Penny Ante, Credit Card, On the Spot, Split Decision, Add em Up, Walk of Fame, Barker's Markers.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2020, 04:11:30 PM »
That Spelling Bee hurt.  Knowledgeable enough to get all 3 cards normally and gets screwed with the four As.

Like, if the outcome of the game wasn't affected then why are the prizes being awarded.

I believe they may have meant that the order the contestants spun the wheel in would not have changed, possibly?  That's the only thing I could think of with the verbiage "outcome of the SHOW was not affected."

Regardless, my god that was a total failure to pick something that there's TWO of in Danger Price when the danger price itself ends in 98!

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2020, 04:20:04 PM »
Regardless, my god that was a total failure to pick something that there's TWO of in Danger Price when the danger price itself ends in 98!

This has been discussed from time to time before, but it is entirely possible for 2 of a thing to not end in an even digit.  We all know the show “rounds off the retail prices to the nearest dollar.”  But suppose an item has a retail price is $999.49.  2 of that item is $1998.98.  Rounded the nearest dollar, the price on the show for these 2 items then is $1999.  It depends on where in the process the show does the rounding.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2020, 06:02:33 PM »
i declare a technical win in danger price the prices given in danger price were not correct prices and it was unfair to the contestant therefore danger price was WON and the show was not skunked and pepe still hasn't fully invaded the studio since May 15 2019

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2020, 06:17:58 PM »
^you win the thread, but I liked this more before we even knew of the tech win:



RE: what was found in the Discord: The fridge was in Most Expensive on 12/9, the fire table was in One Wrong Price on 4/16, and the air hockey table was the fourth IUFB on 4/10. All three had the same price as today's playing. We also found that the scooters went for $699 each according to Wire's website, leading to our conclusion that the show must have forgotten to include the helmets in the price. It wouldn't have changed the spinning order in the Showcase Showdown since she won the most expensive IUFB in hat half and everyone lost.

I know it's not a hard in stone rule, but I had a feeling the $1,398 was a trap because the helmets should have messed with the price and made it not end in 98.

Otherwise, nothing out of the ordinary came out of this show except for the CAAAA.
"If any show, forget sports, Price is Right, [the audience is] the star of the show. Somebody... coming on down and losing their minds, and ... crying, that's the show. The show isn't me, the show isn't necessarily [a] can of soup, how much that is, it's watching people go bananas, and there's going to be some of that missing."

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2020, 06:54:57 PM »
5 A's is special.  :P

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2020, 07:11:13 PM »
If 5 card Bee is lost (and there's a 27% chance of it happening, per my simulations), the vast majority of that time it's going to be a bunch of C's and A's. A 4/1 split of those isn't THAT uncommon then. They made way too big a deal out of nothing.

The Danger Price thing is really confusing. Like, if the outcome of the game wasn't affected then why are the prizes being awarded. Also, the only way a contestant could be disadvantaged in Danger Price would be if the price of the danger prize was wrong. The other prices being wrong actually wouldn't affect the game. Today's contestant picked the danger price 1st and lost straight away. The only possible disadvantage is if the price of the danger prize is wrong. And if the outcome of the game wasn't affected then why award the prizes.
This is all correct IMO, although I could see them being generous in another situation. It just turned out the price of the danger prize WAS the issue (see 9821's post).
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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2020, 07:22:05 PM »
I posted the recap.

Here's what I've done to handle the Danger situation: There is real-time winnings (as show was progressing) and post-show winnings (in retrospect).

I haven't had many post-show winning adjustments in my 7 seasons as recapper. However, the show is still technically a skunk in my book as it wasn't a real-time tech win.
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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2020, 07:41:21 PM »
Ah, it makes sense now. Since $1398 was the wrong price for the danger prize since the helmets weren't added, Elvia was disadvantaged and the technical win was necessary.

Interestingly there was a weird incident with Danger Price on 4-17-2013 where 2 prices were revealed after the contestant's 1st pick. Because neither was the danger prize, a technical win was not needed and the contestant ended up winning on the last pick. Had the accidentally revealed price been the danger prize then a tech win would have been needed.
Adjustments that should be made to pricing games to make them fairer: Secret X: Add a 3rd SP so that perfect pricing ensures a win. 1/2 Off: Add a 4th set of SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win. Master Key: Add 2 more SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win. Rat Race: Add 2 more SPs so that perfect pricing ensures a win.

The following pricing games should be retired because there's no way or no easy way to make them fair: Spelling Bee, Plinko, Punch a Bunch, Pass the Buck, Let em Roll.

The following retired pricing games should be revived: $uper $aver, Give or Keep, Buy or Sell, Hurdles, Bump, Penny Ante, Credit Card, On the Spot, Split Decision, Add em Up, Walk of Fame, Barker's Markers.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 12/16/2020
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2020, 08:07:07 PM »
If 5 card Bee is lost (and there's a 27% chance of it happening, per my simulations), the vast majority of that time it's going to be a bunch of C's and A's. A 4/1 split of those isn't THAT uncommon then. They made way too big a deal out of nothing.

There are 142,506 ways to choose 5 cards from among 30. 104,726/142,506 of them, or 73.49%, win the game. Here's a breakdown of each of the 37,780 losing possibilities:

5 Cs or 5 As: 462/37780 (1.22% each)
5 Rs: 6/37780 (0.02%)
4 Cs & 1A or 4 As & 1C: 3630/37780 (9.61% each)
4 Cs & 1R or 4 As & 1R: 1980/37780 (5.24% each)
4 Rs & 1C or 4 Rs & 1A: 165/37780 (0.44% each)
3 Cs & 2As or 3 As & 2Cs: 9075/37780 (24.02% each)
3 Cs & 2Rs or 3 As & 2Rs: 2475/37780 (6.55% each)
3 Rs & 2Cs or 3 Rs & 2As: 1100/37780 (2.91% each)

So the probability of losing by getting 4 As & 1C is a bit less than 10%, which is pretty small--most losses occur by getting 3 of 1 card and 2 of a different non-CAR card. Keep in mind that's the probability of losing that way. The probability of each of those cases happening at all is much smaller, because you win the car if you get 5 cards more than 3 out of 4 times. So the overall probability of getting 4 As & 1C is 1980/142506 = 1.39%. Overall, the probability of getting 4 of one card and 1 of a different non-CAR card is 11550/142506, or 8.10%. In other words, it's pretty darn rare--it's slightly less likely than rolling a 3 on a pair of dice.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2020, 09:49:22 PM »
Poor Adam, getting all 5 cards but then not getting the R card to win. At least he got to keep an A card.

Interesting technical win in Danger Price. Like others said, I assume it's because they didn't include the cost of the helmets. Still, the -98 ending should've been a clue that it was for a pair of items so avoid the scooters.

Very tough Hi Lo, who would've thought the chips would be more expensive than the cheese.