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Offline tpirfansince1972

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Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« on: July 23, 2022, 10:59:13 AM »
Bullseye I and/or Double Bullseye featuring players bidding higher or lower than their last bids was turned into the immensely popular and far superior Clock Game way back in '72.

And why Buy or Sell was amended into More or Less, I discovered that both games were briefly in the rotation together at the same time, which surprised me a little.

Give or Keep served as inspiration for Finish Line, only to have Finish Line axed and revert back to Give or Keep (a game I still miss).

The Phone Home Game seems like it helped to inspire It's In The Bag. 

Double Digits helped to spawn both Switcheroo and Temptation, two far superior pricing games which sadly, due to budget and especially time constraints, seem not to get played nearly as much as they used to.

Are there other games you can think of that helped to inspire new and better pricing games to be created as a result?  And is there any knowledge of old retired pricing games inspiring newer ones?  Time is Money old vs. the $20,000 edition and then To the Penny being inspired from Penny Ante come readily to mind.

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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2022, 11:35:28 AM »
On The Spot certainly pulled inspiration from Pathfinder, but was simply an inferior game.
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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2022, 01:26:42 PM »
Gallery Game (d)evolved into Pick A Number.

Coming Or Going is just Side By Side with only one common digit instead of two.

Split Decision seemed like a weird mix of 10 Chances and Make Your Move, although the "put numbers in the right place" with a timer may have led to Bonkers.
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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2022, 04:39:05 PM »
Pretty sure I'd read that 1/2 Off was deliberately based on Fortune Hunter.

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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2022, 09:01:07 PM »
Pretty sure I'd read that 1/2 Off was deliberately based on Fortune Hunter.

1/2 Off's reveal was based on Fortune Hunter.  The formats didn't have anything to do with one another.
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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2022, 09:12:23 PM »
Let us not forget how Penny Ante gave us To The Penny with To The Penny being a much beefier version of Penny Ante.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2022, 10:56:01 PM »
Double Digits have us Temptation.

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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2022, 11:31:37 PM »
The original one -Bonus Game's whole schtick was duplicated into Shell Game, all the way down to the display table. I think the FAQ mentioned Bonus Game going missing for an extended while sometime after Shell Game's debut.

Sure I'm mistaken, but didn't Give or Keep go missing for a brief bit after it's concept doppelganger Finish Line debuted?

Bullseye ('76) is a kid gloves mutation of Grocery Game, with much less actual strategy required as well as an added fail-safe in the "hidden bullseye". I don't know what Grocery Game's win/loss record was back then, or just how popular it was, but perhaps Bullseye was created to test as a possible replacement for Grocery Game; much like maybe Shell Game was to Bonus Game or how Bullseye ('72) seemed to morph into Clock Game. 

If you think about it, Grand Game is a clone of Hurdles without the hurdler. A target price, then you pick a certain number of grocery items below that price. Even got 6 grocery products. After Grand Game debuted Hurdles was a memory 3 years later.

In $uper $aver you make "purchases" and after a certain number of purchases you must have "profited" by a certain amount. It was retired in 1996 and 2 years later comes Buy or Sell, in which you win by making any amount of profit.

Hole in One no doubt inspired On the Nose. They even played it for a car.

Poker Game inspired Hit Me probably; two games that ridiculously shoehorn the digits in items' prices into the rules of familiar card games.

Gallery Game came and went and was gone in mid 1991. Pick-a-Number debuted end of January 1992. Fill in the missing number and you're a winnah. Arguably neither one is the "better" game IMO  :-D

Cliff Hangers' "guess the price of 3 small prizes and in total don't miss by a certain range" mechanic was heavily borrowed for Season 50's Back to '72.

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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2022, 11:36:33 PM »
Add 'em Up was arguably an evolution of Any Number, in that contestants had to guess three of the four numbers in the price of a car, and none of them repeat.
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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2022, 01:12:08 AM »
Many of these I had not thought about!

Eazy as 1-2-3 sort of spawned Clearance Sale.  They were basically the same except the blocks were replaced with 3 price tags.  If you put them from low to high correctly you won the game.

Credit Card's inverse, Shopping Spree comes to mind too.  To me, Shopping Spree's premise rubs me wrong.  Goes against the grain that in order to win, you have to go over a certain total, where going over quite often means losing.

To this end, That's Too Much! rubs me the wrong way too, not to mention it bores me to tears.

Secret "X" is a hybrid to Bonus Game of sorts.  But unlike Bonus or Shell, perfect pricing does not guarantee victory, only improves a player's odds in winning.

Split Decision was a great alternative to Any Number, but to the trained ear, you could always tell which of those 2 games was being played.  When it was Any Number, Rod would say "You can win this prize OR...a new car!", but with Split Decision it was "You can win this prize, AND...a new car!".

Gridlock seems to be a more linear version of Money Game, except with Gridlock, you can only make one mistake, with M.G. you can make as many as three, and still get rewarded cash for doing so at least!  This is but one reason why Money Game will always be far superior to Gridlock.

Thought of one other, Triple Play inspired by Golden Road.  Both paid for potential huge paydays, both involving three steps.  With Golden Road and Triple Play both, the first step is a 50/50 chance of winning, step 2 is a 1 out of 3 shot, and the last step is 1 out of 4, the biggest difference of course being at least with Golden Road, any prizes won up to that point are kept while Triple Play is an all or nothing proposition.

One Right Price plus Double Prices helped to inspire Switch?  It's a combination of both games.

Barker's Bargain Bar (now Bargain Game) served as the device for Super Saver, trying to pick out the items with the biggest bargain prices.

Pick A Pair and Swap Meet maybe, as both require matching 2 items to win.

I'll do one more, although I'm sure I could come up with more.....

Safe Crackers and Two for the Price of One.  Both games win a smaller 3 digit prize plus a larger 4 digit prize by pricing the smaller prize correctly.  And since one digit is told ahead of time to the contestant, 2 For 1 becomes a 1 out of 4 chance of winning.  Safe Crackers usually is a 50/50 proposition since it seems more often than not, zero is one of the digits, and usually serves as the last digit of the 3 digit price.

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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2022, 08:34:26 AM »
Danger Price’s core concept…pick all the items except the one with a particular price…got recycled into numerous other games:
Grand Game (pick all the items except the two most expensive)
Credit Card (pick all the items except the two most expensive)
Shopping Spree (pick all the items except the least expensive)

Gas Money feels similar but you’re avoiding the real price in a group of fakes; it’s not a game of “figure out what costs $xxx and avoid it”.

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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2022, 01:02:01 PM »
In $uper $aver you make "purchases" and after a certain number of purchases you must have "profited" by a certain amount. It was retired in 1996 and 2 years later comes Buy or Sell, in which you win by making any amount of profit.

Buy or Sell came out in 1992, so the two games co-existed for a time.

Double Prices, Side By Side, and Coming or Going are all effectively the exact same game. "Here's two prices, which one's right?"

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2022, 01:28:03 PM »
The original one -Bonus Game's whole schtick was duplicated into Shell Game, all the way down to the display table. I think the FAQ mentioned Bonus Game going missing for an extended while sometime after Shell Game's debut.

Shell Game was intended to outright replace Bonus Game.  The latter wasn't played on the daytime show for over a year after the former debuted, and even when it came back, it did so in fits and starts until the permanent hour expansion, when they presumably just plain needed more games.

Sure I'm mistaken, but didn't Give or Keep go missing for a brief bit after it's concept doppelganger Finish Line debuted?

Give or Keep and Finish Line were never in the rotation at the same time.  One would start showing up, and the other would disappear.
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Re: Games that inspired or evolved into other games
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2022, 01:56:45 PM »
i've always felt like Australia's showcase round (or at least the first half, before arranging the individual prizes from least to most expensive) is the 2 player bullseye game we had for a stint

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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2022, 09:24:13 PM »
I think Gas Money is more a hybrid of Danger Price and Five Price Tags.  But unlike the latter, if you pick the right price for the car, you lose.

But unlike Danger Price, Gas Money offers a car plus $10,000 in cash.  Considering many cars cost more than $20,000 these days, the total value of car and cash could sometimes exceed $30,000.