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TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« on: November 15, 2023, 01:01:47 PM »
Episode #0373L
Aired – 11/15/2023; Taped – 8/9/2023
Models: Manuela Arbelaez, James O'Halloran
Microphone Handoff: Manuela
First Four Contestant Seating: Left to Right

First IUFB: Designer Jewelry (Helen Ficalora: charm, chain, baby stud earrings, 4 birth jewel stacking rings with diamonds); ARP: $1,815 (Overhead)

LUCHARA EDWARD GINA TABITHA
795 620 1450 796

The winner is...
GINA


Gina is playing Flip Flop for a new kitchen (LG: French door fridge; wifi enabled electric range, dishwasher with 3rd rack, microwave with touch controls, egg timerm countertop ice maker, smart composter) (James)

75 29

Gina FLOPS to

75 92

ARP be...

57 29

LOSS

Second IUFB: Telescope (Star-Watcher: 102mm optical tube telescope with tripod, wifi, red dot finder); ARP: $680 (Manuela)

LUCHARA EDWARD CHRISTOPHER TABITHA
650 750 800 950

The winner is...
LUCHARA


Luchara, a professor at Western Michigan University from Kalamazoo, Michigan, is playing That's Too Much for a 2024 Fountain Blue Chevrolet Trax 1RS (1.2L turbo engine, 6-speed AT, FWD, interior protection package, cargo cover) (James).

$22,444
$23,623
$24,891
$26,120
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
ARP:
$24,605
LOSS
$22,444
$23,623
$24,891
$26,120
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $
$ $ $

Third IUFB: Television (75in 4k QLED smart television); ARP: $2,700 (James)

CHAVONIE EDWARD CHRISTOPHER TABITHA
1250 1450 999 1451

The winner is...
TABITHA


Tabitha, who was on the show in the past, is playing Now or Then for a trip to Trinidad & Tobago (RT Coach to Trinidad for a 6n stay in an oceanfront room at Magdalena grand Beach and Golf Resort + daily breakfast, guided bird sanctuary tour; ARP: $7,540. The THEN date is MARCH 2012

Grocery items:

  1. Hormel Black Label Microwave Ready Original Bacon (12oz) - marked $9.99
  2. French's Yellow Mustard (14oz) - marked $1.99
  3. Rold Gold Pretzel Sticks (1lb) - marked $3.99
  4. Land O Lakes Salted Butter (4ct) - marked $5.79
  5. Coppertone Water Babies SPF 50 Sunscreen Lotion with Aloe (8oz) - marked $13.99
  6. Pine Mountain Fatwood Firestarter (1.5lb) - marked $6.99
$9.99
$1.99
$3.99
$5.79
$13.99
$6.99
Tabitha picks butter. She believes the $5.79 price is NOW.
THEN
$9.99
$1.99
$3.99
THEN
$13.99
$6.99
Tabitha picks the mustard. She believes the $1.99 price is NOW.
THEN
$9.99
THEN
$3.99
THEN
$13.99
$6.99
Tabitha picks the bacon. She believes the $9.99 price is NOW.
NOW
NOW
THEN
$3.99
THEN
$13.99
$6.99
Tabitha picks the firestarter. She believes the $6.99 price is THEN.
NOW
NOW
THEN
$3.99
THEN
$13.99
NOW
LOSS

SCSD #1

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Luchara $680 15 100 1.15
OVER
Gina $1,815 50 35 .85 *SHOWCASE*
Tabitha $2,700 65 55 1.20
OVER

Fourth IUFB: Pair of Earbuds (Noise canceling bluetooth earbuds + 2 wireless charging cases); ARP: $560 (James)

CHAVONIE EDWARD CHRISTOPHER ERIC
399 375 400 350

The winner is...
CHRISTOPHER


Christopher is playing PLINKO! for a chance to win $50,000!.

Drew gives him a free Plinko chip.
$


Chip #1 (Zester and Grater) (Manuela):

1
5
He picks 5...
1
9


Chip #2 (Snailax Heated Neck Massager):

6
2
He picks 6...
$
WIN!
$67


Chip #3 (Drawing Kit):

9
0
He picks 0...
WIN!
$40
$


Chip #4 (Wine Bottle Opener Set):

5
8
He picks 5...
2
8


Christopher drops the first chip...

 
         
$
   
 
1
0
0
5
0
0
1
0
0
0
0 10
0
0
0
0 1
0
0
0
5
0
0
1
0
0
$
1,000

Christopher drops the second chip...

 
       
$
     
 
1
0
0
5
0
0
1
0
0
0
0 10
0
0
0
0 1
0
0
0
5
0
0
1
0
0
$
1,000

Christopher drops the third chip...

 
   
$
         
 
1
0
0
5
0
0
1
0
0
0
0 10
0
0
0
0 1
0
0
0
5
0
0
1
0
0
$
2,000

LOSS (Total Winnings: $2,107)

Fifth IUFB: Reading Nook (Chaise longue with solid rubberwood and plywood frame; 10 books on industrial bookcase; book nook; ARP: $1,427 (Manuela)

CHAVONIE EDWARD HANNAH ERIC
999 1600 1100 1550

The winner is...
HANNAH


Hannah is playing 2 for the Price of 1 for a laptop computer (12.4in touchscreen laptop with 8GB RAM, 512GB storage; laptop riser docking station) and a trip to the Hamptons (RT Coach to New York, NY then to Southampton for a 6n stay in a Hampton-style traditional room at the Southampton Inn + daily breakfast; ARP: $9,446) (Manuela and James).

Hannah will be guessing the price of the laptop...

7 5 4
$ $ $
9 2 0

Hannah picks the second number for free...

7   4
$ 5 $
9 2 0

Hannah picks $954 for the prices of the laptop...

7    
9 5 4
  2 0

ARP is...$950. LOSS

7    
9 5 4
  2 0

Well, Edward got lost in the fast departure of his first four colleagues. Limo drivers got a nice day off yesterday. Can he escape a long trip to Blooming Rose, Maryland?

Sixth IUFB: Elliptical Machine (Body-Solid: Best Fitness E2 elliptical machine); ARP: $2,185 (James)

CHAVONIE EDWARD SHERRY ERIC
1500 1300 900 1100

The winner is...
CHAVONIE


Edward departs while Chavonie is playing Dice Game for a 2023 Nissan Sentra S (2L engine, CVT, FWD, clear BP, all-weather floor mats) (Manuela).

1st roll...
Picks: lower

4
2
4
2nd roll...
Picks: higher

4
2
4
4
3rd roll...
Picks: lower

4
2
4
4
4
4th roll...
Picks: higher

4
2
4
4
4
4
The ARP is...
 

2
4
1
3
4
4
5
3
4

WIN

SCSD #2

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Hannah $1,427 70 STAY .70
Christopher $2,667 95 STAY .95 *SHOWCASE*
Chavonie $23,538 25 5 .30

THE FABULOUS SHOWCASES

Christopher has the honors...

SC1 - Christopher

ALL FUN AND GAMES
  • Game Room (Espresso slate pool table with deluxe accessory kit, dart cabinet, pub table with 2 stools) (Manuela)
  • Pickleball Package (Gamma: net, 4 paddles, 2 backpacks, balls) (Manuela)
  • 2023 Radiant Red Honda Accord LX (1.5L engine, CVT, FWD, door sill trim, auto dimming mirror, wireless phone charger, all-season protection package) (James)
Bid: $30,250

SC2 - Gina

BEST FOOT FORWARD
  • Designer Sneakers (Nike: 3 pairs for him, 3 pairs for her) (James)
  • Trip to Denver (RT Coach to Denver, CO for a 5n stay in a deluxe room at Hotel Teatro + daily breakfast, 2 tickets to football game) (James)
  • 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport 2.0 ES (2L engine, CVT, AWD, carbon grille) (Manuela)
Bid: $34,500
Christopher
$30,250
ROOM/CAR
$38,814
$8,564
ROOM/CAR
Gina
$34,500
DENVER/SUV
$34,887
$387
*WIN*
$36,702

Results: 1 out of 6
Winnings: $67,714
Biggest Winner: Gina

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2023, 06:41:43 PM »
Something interesting to point about.

Tabitha is the co-host of Housewives of True Crime, one of my all-time favorite true crime podcasts.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2023, 07:16:56 PM »
Recap posted from the laptop.
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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2023, 07:29:03 PM »
This show is noteworthy for the origins of Yodely Guy's new name , Cliff. We can thank Gina for saying that to Drew.
Drew 1st mentioned Cliff's name during the 10/17 playing of Cliffhangers.

Something interesting to point about.
Tabitha is the co-host of Housewives of True Crime, one of my all-time favorite true crime podcasts.

Tabitha was also on the show on 5/26/09 , was called 7th , and didn't get out of contestants' row.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2023, 07:36:27 PM »
We almost had a skunked show today until Dice Game showed up. After Tabitha found two THEN's, I knew the rest were NOW because of the four now's and two then's rule.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2023, 09:10:35 PM »
I'd like to start a petition to get TTM retired. Whenever it shows up I just know its lost before Drew gets a word out about the rules. I know its great for budget control but as a viewer its just depressing.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2023, 09:25:09 PM »
I'd like to start a petition to get TTM retired. Whenever it shows up I just know its lost before Drew gets a word out about the rules. I know its great for budget control but as a viewer its just depressing.

It's not gonna happen.
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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2023, 09:42:20 PM »
It's not gonna happen.

Nor should it. I think That’s Too Much! is a game that’s difficult by design and that’s totally fine.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2023, 10:06:33 PM »
That's Too Much being a "forced" loss only looks bad when it's surrounded by other losses, like today's show.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2023, 11:06:48 PM »
Nor should it. I think That’s Too Much! is a game that’s difficult by design and that’s totally fine.

I had to revisit my earlier prediction on whether I thought that this game's losing streak would make it to Season 53 or not.  I still think someone will break through.  It's played often enough that it's more probable than not that we'll get a winner.  There have been some close calls like today, but close is as good as a total miss in TTM.

I have no issue either; it's a car game.  Those are supposed to be tough.  It is very sad that it's been lost about a 2 and a half dozen times.  If I would've guessed before it started, I'd say maybe 24-25 losses in that period, but that's just too bad that no one has won in over a year or so
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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2023, 07:32:22 PM »
I was waiting to see which ep was going to have the fan that named Yodely guy Cliff as Drew told me on  Oct 17, well Aug 24 (tape date)Cliff is the new name..and so awesome that my ep was the first time Cliff was used.🙂

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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2023, 09:56:29 PM »
This is a post that is at least 17 years in the making...I finally made it on the show! I'm the guy who played Plinko in this episode!

I was super active on this forum back in Season 35 - Bob's last season! (R.I.P.) - so maybe a few members on the board from the olden days will remember me. I stopped posting here as life got a little busier, but I never gave up on my dream on getting on The Price is Right!

Here's my story:

With audiences coming back this season and a trip to visit my friend in Las Vegas already planned, I was able to snag two tickets for the third taping on August 9th. We woke up at 6AM to drive out to Los Angeles and got in around 1PM and hopped in line. We only had line vouchers, but ended up being numbers 99 and 100.

Gina (from the showcase!) and her fiancé were 101 and 102, so we got to talk them a lot while we were waiting to get into the studio. They had previously attended 4 tapings at the Bob Barker Studio, so they had a lot of fun stories to tell!

We waited outside for about three hours and then eventually went inside to get our name tags. Apparently, "Christopher" is such a pain for them to fit onto the name tag, they have a pre-made stack of "Christopher" name tags to hand out so they don't have to write them on demand!

We went up the waiting room and watched an old episode. At some point during this, they pulled out our row of about 10 people to do the interviews. I was really nervous about this part, but I guess it went okay! When it was my turn, I talked about where I was from, and my shirt, and the "dream book" I made when I was a kid. It seemed like there were a lot of other interesting people there at that taping, but our little group did pretty well, including me, Gina, and also Edward (from the First Four).

It was really hot and humid that day in L.A. and the AC inside the church was terrible, so I remember drinking a lot of water before the taping to cool down and then also a lot of coffee to stay awake after getting up so early! (I ultimately regretted both.)

When we got inside the studio, they let us sit over on the left side where George is. We ended up sitting next to a seat filler, who was getting paid $30 for being there that day! But, honestly, at this point, being inside the studio was such a rush. I was excited to be there and to see everything...it was insane!

It was the last taping of the day and they seemed in a rush to get things going. The actual taping didn't start until after 6:00 PM. They called the First Four down and then Drew came out and it so electric. At this point, part of me was like "okay, maybe you won't get picked", so I just settled in to enjoy the show and tried to help Gina the best I could with Flip Flop, and then...

I saw my name on the cue card! I'm pretty sure the first thing I shouted was "this is insane!" and then ran down.

My bid for the telescope was okay. I would have ended up stopping where Luchara did in That's Too Much (as would have most of the audience)...the losing streak continues!

The TV was slightly more challenging, because the price of TVs can be so variable, it was hard to tell what brand the TV was, and the two people before me bid within the range I would have. I said $999, which Drew heard as $900, and we ended up having to refilm the bidding for this item after the last pricing game. The TV turned out to be really expensive! The audience was screaming "NOW" after the two "THENS" were revealed, but I don't think Tabitha could hear us.

This is when I asked someone if I could go to the bathroom and they said "I'm not the bathroom person!"...but I never figured out who the bathroom person was!

Before the 4th IUFB, they put down the big Race Game curtain and also blocked off Door 3 with another curtain...I could sense something big might be up next. I was bidding last, and things couldn't have worked out more perfectly. There's no way those headphones were going to be less than $400 (or even $500!).

I went up on stage, met Drew, then George said I was going to play Plinko! I joked with Drew that I would just buy a car with the money.

But the small prizes ended up being trickier than I expected! One thing I didn't realize until I was actually on the show is how far away the prizes are relative to the contestant. It seemed like I was at least 20-30 feet away from the items. Drew actually moved me to a different position when George was describing them so I could get a better view, but it was still hard (compared to seeing them up close on TV) to get a sense of how nice an item was or what features it had. It's also not super easy to focus on George's description, so you're going off slightly incomplete information.

I ended going back-and-forth a couple of times in my head, but on both of the ones I got wrong, I ended up relying on the old "pick the last number if it's 5 or 0; else pick the first number" rule, which maybe isn't as true as it once was! Also, a lot of the audience, including my (former!) friend, were saying "5" for the wine opener!

But it was really cool getting to play Plinko. It's one of the few games that looks different for the contestant than the audience...walking up the stairs and seeing what the board looks like from the top was such a cool moment!

The third chip I dropped actually got stuck on a peg, so Drew had to bring out the Plinko wand! When Manuela was bringing the chip back up to the top, I took a step back...and nearly fell off the back the of the Plinko board! All that is keeping you up there is a small handrail and, being tall, it felt like, for a second, I was going to flip right over it. The "I'm okay"-looking reaction from when my second chip hit zero was actually edited in from when I almost fell off, haha!

The editors left in the part in at the end where Drew said I dropped the chips perfectly (which I appreciate!), but I was a little bummed I couldn't get one of them to bounce into the $10,000 slot!

I left the stage and went over to the corner of the audience where the contestants sit and watched the other two pricing games. It felt like everyone was dying when Hannah picked 4 as the last digit, but another thing I realized after being on stage is that it can be hard to see the audience from the stage because you have a lot of cameras in the way (and, also, because you are focusing on your game!). The Dice Game win was really nice and prevented a wipeout!

When it came time for the Showcase Showdown, I just spun it as hard as I could and hoped for a good result! I'm still not convinced that you can really finesse the wheel to get it to land where you want...you don't get a practice spin, so you really have no idea how much force to apply. But 95 cents was great!

I was super excited to be in the showcase with my line buddy Gina...we had survived the whole day together! We hugged after the Showcase Showdown and we chatted a bit while we were at the podiums before the Showcase. The producer came by and gave us a note to not think about the prices of the items as they are shown to us.

And, then, the Showcase! The first thing they showed was a pool table and my first thought was "that's probably $5,000!", followed by, "oh wait, we weren't supposed to do that!". The Honda Accord at the end was a really nice car (for a daytime show).

I've always thought it was better to pass the first showcase if you have the option, because you can get some information from the bid of the other contestant. If they are way over, you could technically bid $1 and win. If you think they are close, you might want to make a riskier bid on your showcase to also get close.

So, in the moment, I was likely going to pass the first showcase, even though I really liked the Accord! A pool table would be super fun, but I don't exactly have anywhere to put it. But then Drew said, "your childhood dream was to win a car, right?" and then I felt like I'd be a super-villain if I passed this showcase. And, to be honest, the other showcase probably wouldn't have a car! But bidding first wasn't really the position I wanted to be in.

I did some research before the show about car prices, looking at cars that appeared in the back half of Season 51. The Accord was on my list and I remembered it being around $27,000 or so. Then $5,000 for the pool table, $2,000 for the bar table, and $1,000 for the pickle ball set...added up to $35,000. For some reason, that seemed like a lot! My brain was really focused on not going over if I was going to bid first.

So I went back through and calculated what the lowest possible price for each of the items could be: $27K for the car, $2K for the pool table, $1K for the bar table, and $1K for the pickle ball set. And then, for kicks, took $1K off of that to get $30K total. Then added $250 for DSW purposes. This whole thought process probably took less than twenty seconds, but it seemed like FOREVER when it felt liked everyone was waiting for you to bid.

The second showcase ended up being really nice also! When they revealed the SUV at the end, I turned to Drew and gave him a silly "astonished" face and he looked back at me and gave me a funny "well, what can you do?" shrug...probably the realest and funniest moment I remember. It was great. I thought Gina's bid was pretty close at the time. The SUV was probably around $25, trip to Denver around $8K, and the shoes around $1K: $34K total -- but I was hoping that she was over. She was very close to following someone in the audience who was telling her to bid $37,000.

During the stop down, they started moving things around on stage and I started to get bad vibes. They pushed the pickle ball set off stage, and closed the doors to the game room and the Accord. They moved the shoes closer to Door 3. I was pretty sure I had lost at this point.

But, during the break, Drew and I had a long chat about what I do for work and we talked a bit about Rich Fields also. It was really nice, but I wonder if he was just trying to soften the blow knowing I was about to lose!

The announced the ARP of my showcase first and I was way off. Knowing now that the car was likely closer to $30K, my initial math might have worked out. But Gina had an amazing bid...almost a DSW! She said to me afterward "thank God I didn't bid $37,000!", which, umm...I wish she had! But Gina and her fiancé were amazing people and I was so happy for them! And losing to such a great bid makes it a lot easier to not second-guess myself. As nervous as I was about going over, I was never going to get close enough to beat such a awesome bid.

(Also, I feel like the quality of my bid is exactly what you would expect from someone who made the playoffs with the 8th best points average in Season 35. You don't get any points if you go over!)

Afterward, you would think it would just be boring paperwork and leaving, but the studio was actually under lockdown! There was a suspect that had stolen a car and was involved in a shoot-out with police on the street just outside Haven Studios! We ended up having to stay inside the studio for an extra hour after the taping until we were given the all-clear to leave by the police, and even then, the police escorted out of a specific exit from the parking lot. I've joked later to people that they just wanted to make sure we got the full L.A. experience! Here's an article about the police chase: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/suspect-charged-in-officer-involved-shooting-in-l-a/

Since they reused some of the games and prizes from the tapings earlier in the day, our air date ended up being over three months after we taped the show. But, I think, somehow they got the dates confused...I ended up getting some of my prizes and my Plinko check in the mail last month, when I always thought you never got anything until after the airdate of your show. So I had to find somewhere to hide them in my apartment until Wednesday, when I could finally show them off!

Apologies for the long essay, but I figured if anyone wanted to hear all the behind-the-scenes details, it would be the people here! Let me know if you have any questions!

And it was fun to come back! Looking through my post history, I found this post that I made back in 2006 (https://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,1696.msg29737.html#msg29737):

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Plinko first was a nice touch. I still don't understand the massive Plinko-hatred in this forum. It keeps people watching and did you see [her] reaction? Everyone loves to hear that they are going play "$50,000 Plinko!".

Exactly!
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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2023, 01:30:03 AM »
We waited outside for about three hours and then eventually went inside to get our name tags. Apparently, "Christopher" is such a pain for them to fit onto the name tag, they have a pre-made stack of "Christopher" name tags to hand out so they don't have to write them on demand!

Yeah, when I was a page, "Christopher" and "Jacqueline" were the banes of my tag-writing existence. I once thought of pre-writing some "Christopher" tags for that very reason, but I only went one day before I gave up on it.

We hugged after the Showcase Showdown and we chatted a bit while we were at the podiums before the Showcase. The producer came by and gave us a note to not think about the prices of the items as they are shown to us.

Juh?
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2023, 10:29:30 AM »
The producer came by and gave us a note to not think about the prices of the items as they are shown to us.

This screams "dirty pool" to me, and I surmise several reasons behind this instruction:
- If you're thinking about the prices, the expression on your face probably shows it; and I would gather that doesn't "look exciting enough" compared to flipping out with shouts and applause at whatever the heck they run in front of you, which is only consistent with their behaviour of shooting and reshooting to get a specific type of reaction shot.
- If you're not thinking about the prices when the prizes are shown to you, then you're doing nothing to prepare, meaning you're going to scrape something together at the end, trying to remember whatever information was given to you, without enough thought or focus, meaning you're less likely to bid well, which means more likely to overbid and less likely to score the double Showcase (all in favour of the budget).
- If you really are going to stand there for five minutes to contemplate your bid, they really don't care about that either since they'll edit that too, since shooting live-to-tape is a thing of the past.  This also guards against any accusation that they didn't give you time to prepare and steered you towards losing, though it is far more efficient to consider the prices as the prizes are being shown to you rather than trying to recap on everything at the end.

I really don't understand how people are still trying to defend the current production methods when the end product is so artificially contrived compared to the genuine spontaneity of episodes of yesteryear.
Roger Dobkowitz's Seven Commandments of The Price Is Right:
1. Tape and edit the show as if it were live.
2. Never tell the contestant what to do.
3. Size matters. (The bigger the prize, the better the prize and the bigger the reaction.)
4. All prizes are good.
5. Never do anything on the show that would embarrass a parent with a kid watching.
6. Never put on a prize that would make the show look cheap.
7. It’s the game, stupid! (It’s about the game.)

- Roger Dobkowitz on Stu's Show September 23, 2009.

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Re: TPiR Recap - 11/15/2023
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2023, 03:29:16 AM »
There was a weird error with the graphics on this episode -- when they did the mid-bump, they loaded an old version of the logo animation (and the logo itself, really) that hasn't been used since Season 49.

Part of me is impressed that they even have those files at this point.
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