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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: Drew72 on April 14, 2019, 09:12:08 PM
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It's been years since we've seen the Million Dollar Spectaculars and I'm thinking they broke the budget with the multiple winners in the Carey era. Any chances we'll see Prime Time Specials again... even if they aren't Million Dollar Spectaculars? I really enjoyed the ones back in 1986 which had larger payouts and bigger prizes than the daytime version. You think something like that version would fly in the 2019 TV world? Much rather watch that then some of the garbage prime time game shows ABC runs in the summer time.
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I don't see it happening while the daytime version is still in production. All of the shows on ABC - and they are adding Press Your Luck and Card Sharks this year - are shows that haven't been on the air in years, if not decades, and are more for the nostalgia value than anything else.
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All of the shows on ABC - and they are adding Press Your Luck and Card Sharks this year - are shows that haven't been on the air in years, if not decades, and are more for the nostalgia value than anything else.
When you have as many game shows running as ABC does, it isn't happening because people liked them 30 years ago -- it's happening because people are watching them now.
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Those primetime specials that were done for CBS' trio of reality shows in 2016 could have been a fun little annual tradition, but I suppose they didn't do too well in the ratings since there doesn't appear to be any plans to do them again.
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It would probably take the ABC game shows being super successful for CBS to consider having primetime Prices to run against them. Otherwise I think the next chance for one would be when the show celebrates its 50th season.
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Primetime Price is Right never lit the ratings world on fire, even when they were regularly scheduled. And Match Game and $100K Pyramid aren't beating the shows they're running against.
The #1 strength of those shows is, of course, they're economical. Compared to budgets of scripted comedies, they're cheap. Throwing something like a Lincoln Navigator onstage may seem "expensive" for TPiR, but it's pretty cheap compared to someone like Mindy Kaling who works for a half a million per episode.
They scale easily--it's not that much more difficult to make 20 episodes than it is to make 10 once you have the set and production team in place. They don't require continuity, they can be slotted anywhere against anything--perfect when all you need is a lead-in to the nightly news. They lets the network can advertise new, non-rerun content without having to commit to all the resources a sitcom or police procedural would need. The ratings never blow anything out of the water, but they usually do marginally better than reruns.
Major ratings hits like Wheel/Jeopardy/Family Feud are the exceptions to the rule, but for primetime game shows the ratings often don't tell the whole story. Gotta look at the bigger picture.
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It seems like Big Money Week is their new Million Dollar Spectacular, just in the day, and only for the aforementioned big money, not big prizes as well.
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Wasn't the last set of million dollar spectaculars part of a writers strike programming slate also?
I also recall that previous sets of spectaculars were brought on to fill gaps in CBS' bad programming lineup- which they seem to be ok with right now.
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Wasn't the last set of million dollar spectaculars part of a writers strike programming slate also?
I also recall that previous sets of spectaculars were brought on to fill gaps in CBS' bad programming lineup- which they seem to be ok with right now.
Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_2007–08_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike_on_television#Strike_effect_by_type_of_show (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_2007–08_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike_on_television#Strike_effect_by_type_of_show)
Sucked for those whose livelihoods were affected by the instability, of course, but it wasn't a bad time to be a game show fan. CBS got Primetime Price and extra seasons of Big Brother and Amazing Race, ABC got Duel and Wipeout, and NBC got...errr, Amne$ia and My Dad is Better Than Your Dad. Oh, and the American Gladiators reboot.
At this point CBS is doing pretty well for themselves in primetime, and my guess is they'd be more likely to try to fill small schedule holes with something new, cheap, and light like "Celebrity Undercover Boss" rather than reach out to Drew and co and try to make an "event" of something that's otherwise identical to what's already in daytime. But you never know. The events that trigger primetime shows tend to sneak up on you, they all depend on the whims of the people at the CBS programming department.
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Primetime Price is Right never lit the ratings world on fire, even when they were regularly scheduled. And Match Game and $100K Pyramid aren't beating the shows they're running against.
The Armed Forces specials in season 30 did well enough to get the MDSs the next season and the MDSs did do well enough to do two sets in seasons 31 and 32 and they aired reruns of some of the Armed Forces specials and the MDSs after the 6th one in season 31. Of course that was during a time when more people watched traditional television and the MDSs scaled back after that until the writers' strike brought us the set in season 36 and there were no more primetime Prices after until the reality show specials in 2016 and none since.
As for the ABC game shows, they do decently enough to keep them on every summer and now there's going to be even more. Of course, it's cheaper and easier programming than other options.
So is it just because CBS doesn't feel the need for primetime Price, or is it also a matter of Drew and the show's staff not wanting to do additional episodes beyond the daytime show?
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CBS relies heavily on Big Brother, with (at least in the past) more hours devoted to that than ABC devoted to games. This year the balance may flip a bit, but it’s still in the ballpark. It’s also different in that ABC isn’t taking one of their existing shows and putting it in prime time.
CBS’s stable of procedural dramas (the NCIS universe et al) hold up a bit better in repeats than ABC’s serialized shows like Grey’s Anatomy. They can pad their schedule a little better and still get a bit of an audience, and have been using more scripted summer originals over the past few seasons—admittedly to mixed results. But those shows have also often carried streaming deals, which made it more financially advantageous.
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What we need is a new CBS nighttime show to fail so bad, that they don't even air the rest of the episodes, and instead fill that time with Price.
And even that may not be enough.
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What we need is a new CBS nighttime show to fail so bad, that they don't even air the rest of the episodes, and instead fill that time with Price.
And even that may not be enough.
While I would like to see more Price, I think it's short-sighted to root for CBS primetime to fail... in the long run, stability at CBS is good for the show, and instability at CBS is bad. If CBS is in a position where they're so desperate that the only option they have to bail them out in primetime is Price, I would take it as a very bad sign for the network.
Price is Right is a band-aid for short-term fixes, but there is no reason to believe it would be a serious ratings contender against most primetime stuff. Even Bob's regularly scheduled MDS's usually were usually slotted in Friday and Saturday nights where there was almost no real competition.
If a show fails in the way you've described, in a timeslot where CBS presumably thought they would be competitive, it would leaves a gaping wound in CBS' schedule. The band-aid Price would provide isn't going to do much to fix that. There's plenty of other options they should be considering to fill that gap before they reach for the box of band-aids...
ABC's shows are doing okay, but they're certainly not immune to serious counter programming. They do well enough when paired against reruns, but they struggled towards the end of last season once things like Big Brother started, and something like an NFL game eats them up and spits them out.
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What we need is a new CBS nighttime show to fail so bad, that they don't even air the rest of the episodes, and instead fill that time with Price.
And even that may not be enough.
Those things happen. They have shows on the shelf and can plug in reruns as an option. Happens fairly regularly across the networks when you take a long-term view.
Trying to scramble to get Price ready for such an occurrence would probably be somewhere around “plan z.”
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Those things happen. They have shows on the shelf and can plug in reruns as an option. Happens fairly regularly across the networks when you take a long-term view.
Trying to scramble to get Price ready for such an occurrence would probably be somewhere around “plan z.”
It makes me wonder why they didn't try giving primetime Price a shot when @#$% My Dad Says got the boot a few years back after only a few episodes...
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It makes me wonder why they didn't try giving primetime Price a shot when @#$% My Dad Says got the boot a few years back after only a few episodes...
You just quoted the reason why.
Those things happen. They have shows on the shelf and can plug in reruns as an option. Happens fairly regularly across the networks when you take a long-term view.
Trying to scramble to get Price ready for such an occurrence would probably be somewhere around “plan z.”
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I'm just going to put it this way. Someone at CBS should probably lose their job for decisions made. They're sitting on Price and LMAD in primetime and somehow thought paying for the world's largest touch screen for a has-been app (Candy Crush), Kevin Hart's indoor American Ninja Warrior (TKO) and LeBron's American Gladiators (Million Dollar Mile) would be more successful/more cost effective than just commissioning Price and LMAD for 10 extra episodes with an inflated budget.
I'm all for the CBS having a rock solid lineup as the reason we don't see Price and LMAD, but I'm curious as to an explanation as to why those clunkers got picked while two popular stalwart shows sit in a dark corner for the summer.
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it's hard enough running a successful daytime show -with little competition similar to it
what happens when TPIR/LMAD runs up against the likes of AGT and Idol
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I'm curious as to an explanation as to why those clunkers got picked while two popular stalwart shows sit in a dark corner for the summer.
"Same show you already see in the middle of the day, but with more money" has not proven to be a compelling formula to attract audiences.
The MDS format has a fairly lengthy track record at this point. The shows you mentioned did not. If you're looking for the next big thing, you have to try some new stuff and see what works. Fox took a gamble on the ridiculous Masked Singer, and it paid off. There are crazier ideas than giving a shot to shows with Mark Burnett, LeBron James, and Kevin Hart behind them.
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it's hard enough running a successful daytime show -with little competition similar to it
what happens when TPIR/LMAD runs up against the likes of AGT and Idol
Then...don't put it up against AGT or Idol. Both of which, by the way, don't really pull in awesome numbers like they used to. And Idol would be off the air by the summer anyway. It usually ended by mid-May on FOX and still does on ABC since they've really streamlined the season to get it in before the NBA playoffs start airing on the network.
"Same show you already see in the middle of the day, but with more money" has not proven to be a compelling formula to attract audiences.
But clearly people are interested in watching game shows in primetime since ABC just went crazy with all that they've ordered. Pyramid, CFF, TTTT, and MG are all pretty much the same as they were in daytime just with more money and Card Sharks and PYL aren't going to be that far off from their original versions either. Like, back when some of us were pining for MDS when CBS' schedule was rock solid and there was no/very little game shows in primetime back in 2011-15, I'd get it and understand more. But the landscape is flooded with primetime games now. Someone is attracted to something, because ABC, NBC, and FOX aren't just throwing money away.
The MDS format has a fairly lengthy track record at this point. The shows you mentioned did not. If you're looking for the next big thing, you have to try some new stuff and see what works. Fox took a gamble on the ridiculous Masked Singer, and it paid off. There are crazier ideas than giving a shot to shows with Mark Burnett, LeBron James, and Kevin Hart behind them.
I'd get that the first time for Candy Crush (though again, the app was nowhere near as popular as it was in 2012/2013), and maybe they think Kevin Hart can be funny enough to draw people in, fine, but take the hint. How many times are you going to throw spaghetti at the wall when ABC, NBC, and FOX have all also greenlit traditional types of game shows? I know you've got to try new things, but you can still try some of the same things at the same time. Especially when other networks are filling the schedule fine with it.
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"Same show you already see in the middle of the day, but with more money" has not proven to be a compelling formula to attract audiences.
But clearly people are interested in watching game shows in primetime since ABC just went crazy with all that they've ordered. Pyramid, CFF, TTTT, and MG are all pretty much the same as they were in daytime just with more money and Card Sharks and PYL aren't going to be that far off from their original versions either.
I think these are very different situations...those "old" ABC shows haven't been on the air in years. If you don't have GSN or Buzzr, you're probably not watching old reruns of those shows. Plus, they're not just targeting fans of the original series--for a lot of people, the names Charles Nelson Reilly or Richard Dawson mean nothing to them, but they HAVE heard of Alec Baldwin. There's reasons to tune in besides "ooh I remember that show!"
On the other hand, anyone with CBS can tune into TPIR, any day they want, especially with the advent of DVR and online streaming. If you're somebody interested in watching Price is Right, you're probably already watching Price is Right. And if you're somebody who's currently NOT interested in watching daytime Price is Right, is running it in primetime with bigger payouts really going be enough to change your mind?
But the landscape is flooded with primetime games now. Someone is attracted to something, because ABC, NBC, and FOX aren't just throwing money away....ABC, NBC, and FOX have all also greenlit traditional types of game shows? I know you've got to try new things, but you can still try some of the same things at the same time. Especially when other networks are filling the schedule fine with it.
Can you elaborate what shows are currently on the air you would consider "traditional" game shows? (Besides the obvious ABC revivals, of course.)
I honestly can't think of that many...I would consider shows like Beat Shazam and Mental Samurai to be closer in genetics to the Mark Burnett-esque primetime stunt extravaganzas like TKO or Candy Crush or Million Dollar Mile than the "traditional" classics.
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On the other hand, anyone with CBS can tune into TPIR, any day they want, especially with the advent of DVR and online streaming. If you're somebody interested in watching Price is Right, you're probably already watching Price is Right. And if you're somebody who's currently NOT interested in watching daytime Price is Right, is running it in primetime with bigger payouts really going be enough to change your mind?
I think there are still plenty of fans of The Price is Right, casual fans that is, that don't watch the current daytime show either primarily due to work and lacking the willingness to use up DVR space for it. Which is fine, but I think those same casual fans would probably enjoy seeing it and LMAD on at night. "Oh, I don't usually watch this during the day, let's peek in." I'm sure that's part of the reason why CBS was fine greenlighting the first Salute/MDS specials (besides the fact that their primetime lineup at the time was practically garbage outside of CSI and the reality trio).
People tune into Celebrity Family Feud even though Family Feud is on far more than Price is, which only airs once a day here. Now, Price has done celeb specials before. Bigger prizes and celebs could probably draw in more eyeballs. People also like specials. It'd be one thing if they aired a daytime episode in primetime, but make it special and it gives people a reason to watch. The show doesn't do these theme weeks in daytime just for the fun of it.
Can you elaborate what shows are currently on the air you would consider "traditional" game shows? (Besides the obvious ABC revivals, of course.)
I honestly can't think of that many...I would consider shows like Beat Shazam and Mental Samurai to be closer in genetics to the Mark Burnett-esque primetime stunt extravaganzas like TKO or Candy Crush or Million Dollar Mile than the "traditional" classics.
Beat Shazam is Name That Tune. And it really isn't that extravagant outside of the million dollar prize. It's literally guessing like 28 songs in less than 2 seconds. A simple format (perhaps even simpler than NTT) they've hardly glitzed up for primetime outside of the set and hiring Jamie Foxx. They can't even pay for the giant Shazam board to come out of the wall as in previous seasons. They're just going to start using stock footage of it now.
I'd also consider The Wall, Hollywood Game Night, to be more traditional than not. Yeah, The Wall is big and flashy and stunty, but it's giant Plinko with questions. And Hollywood Game Night is Win, Lose or Draw, but someone actually brought other games to play than just Pictionary.
Mental Samurai, Ellen's Game of Games, and the upcoming Spin the Wheel I'll admit are a little more on the line of stunt than "traditional" (though StW looks like it'll probably just be The Big Spin with questions), but at the end of the day, people are playing games based around knowledge for money (admittedly, Ellen's "knowledge" is more light fare just to get to the laughs).
You're right, it's not that many, but it's something, even if it's ABC leading the pack.
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Beat Shazam is Name That Tune. And it really isn't that extravagant outside of the million dollar prize. It's literally guessing like 28 songs in less than 2 seconds. A simple format (perhaps even simpler than NTT) they've hardly glitzed up for primetime outside of the set and hiring Jamie Foxx.
I guess this is where I should admit I haven't actually watched Beat Shazam and assumed from the promos and the attached Mark Burnett name it would be another triumph of form over substance. But you know what happens when you assume...one of these days I ought to give it a shot.
People tune into Celebrity Family Feud even though Family Feud is on far more than Price is, which only airs once a day here.
Harvey FF is definitely a much bigger ratings hit than Price, as much as it pains me to admit, so a primetime version brings with it a bigger guaranteed audience. (Weirdly, oversaturation doesn't seem to hurt it. Nothing seems to hurt it. It's baffling to me. You'd think people would be tired of it at this point but oh well.)
Good points all around though, made persuasively. A lot to agree with here. Biggest sticking point for me is I don't totally agree there's proof there are THAT many casual TPIR fans out there (only CBS, of course, would know the actual numbers), but I see where you're coming from.
Side note, I love that we can have in-depth discussions on game show minutiae like this without getting into a shouting match. Site's really changed from a few years ago and for the better.
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I always wondered why Wheel of Fortune never tried prime time specials. They could do Celebrity Wheel of Fortune or regular Wheel.
I agree though, I think CBS is dumb for not at least trying Price or Deal in prime time in the summer.....it couldn’t hurt. Doesn’t even have to be MDS....just a little bigger prize budget.
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I always wondered why Wheel of Fortune never tried prime time specials. They could do Celebrity Wheel of Fortune or regular Wheel.
I think it might have something to do with the fact that Wheel is in first-run syndication, which means its airtime isn't necessarily constant from one market to the next. (In my area, southeastern US, it's already sort of in primetime, airing at 7:30PM right after Jeopardy.)
I agree though, I think CBS is dumb for not at least trying Price or Deal in prime time in the summer.....it couldn’t hurt. Doesn’t even have to be MDS....just a little bigger prize budget.
(Does CBS even have anything to do with Deal? I thought that was NBC's gig.)
It worked in the 70s with the Dennis James version, and in the 80s with the Tom Kennedy show and the '86 primetime specials. The less said about the 1994 show the better, but they tried it again in 2002 with good success and with the 2003-2007 MDSs. I don't know that I count the MDS's in 2008 because those were forced on CBS by the writers' strike, and any good ratings could be chalked up to them being the only non-rerun game in town.
It seems like every primetime offering from 1986 on had some kind of gimmick, something new to offer viewers they couldn't get in daytime. The 86 specials had that glitzed-up set, tuxedos, a bigger budget, and introduced new game props. The '94 version, for all its faults, was definitely a different experience from daytime--say what you will about it being too radical a departure, but it was definitely unique, and I remember tuning in as much out of curiosity as genuine interest in the franchise. The 2002 shows focused on the armed forces, appropriate given what had happened the previous year, which was a draw all by itself even before we noticed the glitzed-up set and significantly higher budget. The MDS's kind of were what they were, but it was great seeing a million-dollar Price is Right to compete with the likes of WWTBAM and its peers. I will say the one thing that all the primetimers I've seen have gotten right was having less commercial time--helped the shows feel a lot less rushed and allowed them to leave in things they'd have to edit out for regular shows.
Seems like they did a short series of primetime specials that crossed over with other CBS properties like Survivor not that long ago, but since those aren't shows I tune into and I'm not all that into Drew Carey, there wasn't much draw for me. (It also doesn't help that the daytime show is gluttonous with specials and gimmicks already, I didn't really feel like I was missing anything.)
For me personally, Celebrity Family Feud is a different story, because it offers a much glitzier set (sorry but I much prefer their fancy primetime set to the cheaper-looking regular one we see every day), the same basic gameplay, but instead of ordinary families that aren't accustomed to being on TV, we get celebs that are definitely used to it, and can offer us more opportunities for laughs than we could get with Steve doing all the work. As mentioned, primetime also gives them more airtime.
For comparison, think about Judge Judy. She's been on the air since 1996, which is, what, 23 years now? Far as I know that show is still very highly rated, but they only did a primetime episode once. It was akin to Bob's 50 Years in TV special, with new cases mixed in with biopic stuff, and while it was successful, by all accounts it didn't win the night. That was a shock to me, but in retrospect it makes sense that Judge Judy would work in early afternoons, when the stiffest competition tends to be soap operas and afternoon news, but wouldn't win the night against other primetime programming.
In the same way, I don't think Price quite has the built-in audience they used to, LFaTs that would watch it no matter when or where it is. It's undoubtedly still a success, otherwise there's no way they'd still be paying for Drew Carey, but probably doesn't have the mojo to compete against the current primetime lineups on the other networks (and that's before we ask the question of what it would bump on CBS' current primetime lineup).
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(Does CBS even have anything to do with Deal? I thought that was NBC's gig.)
Can't recall the source, but I'd seen a post somewhere that Monty Hall was so appalled at the 2003 primetime shows with Billy Bush, that he swore NBC would never be allowed anywhere near Deal ever again.
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Can't recall the source, but I'd seen a post somewhere that Monty Hall was so appalled at the 2003 primetime shows with Billy Bush, that he swore NBC would never be allowed anywhere near Deal ever again.
Oh...!
For some reason when I saw 3StrikesFan's post, I thought "Deal" was DonD, not LMaD. My fault. Thanks for clarifying.
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I always wondered why Wheel of Fortune never tried prime time specials. They could do Celebrity Wheel of Fortune or regular Wheel.
Remember that in the show's popularity height during the 1980s the syndicated version was really a prime time version of the daytime show still running. When they ditched shopping the bonus round and wheel prizes went up in value and the first NYC shows had even more extravagant prizes than normal. More recently $100,000 became the top prize in the early 2000s and they've offered a million dollars for 10 seasons now. It is a little surprising a network primetime version was never tried after the daytime version ended, but Jeopardy only did it once with Super Jeopardy too.
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Honestly, I don't think Wheel generally lends itself to a prime-time show beyond being in (in much of the country) prime-time access already. I struggle to put into words quite why, when some of ABC's shows have worked (relative to summer expectations). The best I can come up with is the pacing and format just aren't as adaptable to the "spectacle" approach. You can juice up the numbers, slap in celebrities....but my gut still tells me it doesn't have "it."
Then again, I wouldn't have anticipated Card Sharks fit into that category, and we still need to see the final results, but clearly someone believes there's enough of a hook to make it work.
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Ok, here goes. Modern day game shows are extremely graphic, tech, prop heavy. They’re really not “games”, but sort of live action videos that seem to rely on humiliating losing contestants. I was just flipping the channels and stumbled upon Ellen’s “Game of Games”. Some poor sap couldn’t name seven spices (or something like that). As a penalty for not knowing, the contestant (pre-strapped in) got spun around on some type of giant mechanical arm (controlled by Ellen herself) and ultimately dunked in a vat of some sort of green goo.
TPIR is “cerebral” compared to this freakshow masquerading as gameshow. Ellen is getting paid millions, and I’m sure owns a piece, so she’s happy. Plus there’s never shortage of folks willing to make themselves look ridiculous.
Now I have no clue how this show is doing in the ratings. But just for the fact it’s even being run, underscores the fact that society has been systematically dumbed down over the years/decades. The networks figure give em what they want. Look at the popularity (not to mention immense profitability ) of the reality shows.
Networks are all divisions of publicly traded conglomerate corporations. Only ratings (ad dollars) matter. Quality is far far down the list. Jeopardy of course is an exception.
I’d love to see Price in prime time but for these and other reasons, I really don’t see it happening.
Bottom line: the taste of viewers (for better or worse) has markedly changed just over the last 5-10yrs. Just my take.
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Relying on Ellen's Game of Games, a good-natured show that isn't so much about humiliation as people playing along and having a good time, to paint with such a broad is a bit misleading. Pyramid, Match Game (though less about the game and more about the celebrity comedy just as it always was), presumably Card Sharks & Press Your Luck, Wheel of Fortune, Deal or No Deal, The Wall, Beat Shazam...they're not reliant upon humiliating players. Ellen's show seems a bit more of a souped up descendant of the Beat the Clock era. And they're all game shows by any reasonable definition.
Yes, graphics and tech matter today. They mattered before, but technology and expectations have evolved. That's true across many forms of entertainment, and isn't some great commentary on society "dumbing down." Set aside games for a moment--let's not pretend shows like "My Mother the Car" back in day were intellectual masterpieces. (Meanwhile, Masterpiece on PBS continues--it wasn't that long ago people were gaga for Downton Abbey, while HBO's Game of Thrones is a dense and skillfully written/produced, and arguably cerebral, show that is hardly "dumb.")
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Yes, Ellen's Game of Games is silly, but that's ok. It reminds me of a Beat the Clock/Double Dare sort of hybrid which is kinda fun. I think "games shows" can fall across a wide spectrum with something for everyone. That being said, I think there is still a place for some summertime Price is Right Primetime specials. It's not like CBS has a lot of superior "new" ideas. I mean... they air things like MacGyver and Magnum PI which are based on 30 year old shows! :D
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SWAT...Magnum....Hawaii Five O...McGyver. Yeah, CBS does enjoy the retro trend. :)
That said, they’ve largely filled their “non-scripted” needs in the summer with Big Brother. Heck, I think they might throw Undercover Boss in there sometimes too. Totally true that CBS is in a different position in that they have daytime games, but as a general principle the prime time business units aren’t looking to the daytime units as a sort of “utility belt.” ABC hasn’t, that I can remember, regularly scheduled prime time episodes of the View (even to fill in for, say, the dreadful performance of the Alec Baldwin talk show).
It’s reasonable for CBS to look at their schedule and say they’re feeling like added Price, at this time based on current circumstances, isn’t where they need to invest.
And as we all know, circumstances change. Give it time...who knows where we’ll be in the future.
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Speaking of, I can't believe Undercover Boss is still on the air. How do people keep falling for this? The moment you see a camera crew and a "new employee", you should know what's up.
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How do people keep falling for this?
Never underestimate stupidity.
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No real need to insult people. Even the most popular shows aren’t watched by large swaths of the public. There are a multitude of reality shows, which creates plausible cover stories. Some folks have figured it out, and it’s been included in the series.
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Wasn't there a rumor when the last prime time specials aired that we wouldn't be seeing anymore because Drew simply didn't want to do them?