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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: Combs on September 12, 2023, 05:09:07 AM
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Was there ever a reason given why they waited to debut the new Starburst Doors and Hollywood Mural Turntable on the second episode (September 24, 2002) of the 31st season as opposed to the premiere one day earlier? Why repaint the doors to reflect "31 Years" only to use those doors for one episode? For the record, I loved the starburst doors (2002-2006) and the rainbow "35 Years" doors (2006-2007). Both were really beautiful designs.
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I am unsure how accurate what I'm about to say is, but I recall reading many years ago that the Season 31 premiere taped not too long after the season 30 finale.
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That'd make sense. If they shot the season 31 premiere just after wrapping up season 30, they wouldn't have had the new doors and turntable designed (or probably even conceived) by then.
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I am unsure how accurate what I'm about to say is, but I recall reading many years ago that the Season 31 premiere taped not too long after the season 30 finale.
Correct. Link here (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,29497.msg462999.html) from previous discussion.
I’m surprised that it was only a 4 day turnaround on the doors (for some reason, I always thought it was longer). They must’ve had a spare set of panels, as I can’t see a full set paint job being done over a weekend.
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Correct. Link here (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,29497.msg462999.html) from previous discussion.
I’m surprised that it was only a 4 day turnaround on the doors (for some reason, I always thought it was longer). They must’ve had a spare set of panels, as I can’t see a full set paint job being done over a weekend.
Plus the turntable. I'm amazed they got all of that done in four days. Maybe it was easier than we think?
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Plus the turntable. I'm amazed they got all of that done in four days. Maybe it was easier than we think?
If I'm not mistaken, the Hollywood mural was a set of panels that were placed over the Turntable walls. They were probably ready well in advance.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Hollywood mural was a set of panels that were placed over the Turntable walls. They were probably ready well in advance.
This tracks. Remember they had the night version of those for primetime specials, all they would have done is change the panels out.
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Gosh I had forgotten about how eye searingly awful the Hollywood mural was. Glad it was short lived.
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I found the nighttime Hollywood mural much better than the daytime mural.
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I found the nighttime Hollywood mural much better than the daytime mural.
Pretty much everybody did.
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Just proves that the mural's design wasn't that bad, but the tacky daytime color scheme completely ruined it. It would've been better off for a wall that went up to reveal a game anyway.
The doors' designs were pretty good though. A nice change of pace given the doors had been white since the beginning, as well as adding more color to the set.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Hollywood mural was a set of panels that were placed over the Turntable walls. They were probably ready well in advance.
This tracks. Remember they had the night version of those for primetime specials, all they would have done is change the panels out.
Adding to both of these points is during the 2002 military specials there was an American themed mural on home base, predating the Hollywood ones. Also later was the MDS dollar signed version as well. I would assume Carey’s hypocycloids were painted and the squares were another panel set?
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Gosh I had forgotten about how eye searingly awful the Hollywood mural was. Glad it was short lived.
Wasn’t the Hollywood mural done at the behest of Syd Vinnedge? I remember that a lot of people in 33 thought it was gaudy or too distracting and that when it was changed to the classic design in shades of glittery pink, purple, and blue in March 2003, Syd was none too happy. I think Roger Dobkowitz told that story.
And yes, the prime time Hollywood mural was much more pleasing to the eyes.
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Just proves that the mural's design wasn't that bad, but the tacky daytime color scheme completely ruined it. It would've been better off for a wall that went up to reveal a game anyway.
Oh it was horrible, regardless of color scheme. The nighttime design was tolerable but still wasn't great.
The daytime design made it look like Barker was dropped in as a live-action character into an episode of "The Flintstones."
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Either way, nothing beats the classic turntable wall pattern. The pink/purple/blue turntable with the blue carpet went much better with the doors anyway.
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The problem with the Hollywood mural was it looked too busy and too colorful. Same for the doors, IMHO. The pink/blue/purple turntable looked a lot better.
I remember watching the day On the Spot premiered and everyone complaining of a color-overload when they showed the SP display in front of the turntable. How was that really more than twenty years ago? Dang, I feel old now!
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The Hollywood Mural Turntable was very ugly, but it was a thing of beauty compared to the current table. What we have now is both vomit-inducing and seizure-inducing. The tacky blue floor would be bad enough, but the floating dollar signs inside the "video hexagons" represent sensory overload in the extreme (and make it impossible for me to concentrate on actual gameplay).
There are a great many reasons why I cannot stand TPIR in its current state, but the horrendous turntable is the #1 reason. Seriously, how can anybody find the Hollywood Mural turntable (as awful as it was) to be more repugnant than the current turntable?
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I wouldn't turn it into another "Bob and Dob rule, Drew, Mikey and Evelyn drool!" thing myself (Mikey does drool, but for other reasons, but I digress).
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I forget... how long did the mural last? I cannnot have been that long...
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I forget... how long did the mural last? I cannnot have been that long...
Didn't even last the full season; the first episode with the pink, purple, & blue aired Mar. 10, 2003.
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Didn't even last the full season; the first episode with the pink, purple, & blue aired Mar. 10, 2003.
Excluding the Hollywood mural turntable, I personally thought that the pink/purple/blue turntable (with the blue carpeting) was the least attractive of the Barker-Era turntables. I did not dislike it by any means, but its color scheme was quite different from all the others. Regardless, I was not complaining when the pink/purble/blue turntable debuted, since I was so happy that the Hollywood mural turntable was gone.
For a long time, I was puzzled as to why the turntable simply did not return to its 1992-2002 appearance. While I do not know if this is correct, I recall reading on this message board (quite some time ago) that somebody powerful (perhaps Bob himself) liked how Bob looked against the backdrop of the nighttime Hollywood mural turntable, and when the decision was made to return to the classic turntable pattern, dark colors suited Bob the best.
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Wasn’t the Hollywood mural done at the behest of Syd Vinnedge?
While I do not know if this is correct, I recall reading on this message board (quite some time ago) that somebody powerful (perhaps Bob himself) liked how Bob looked against the backdrop of the nighttime Hollywood mural turntable, and when the decision was made to return to the classic turntable pattern, dark colors suited Bob the best.
Both of these statements are correct.
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The Hollywood Mural Turntable was very ugly, but it was a thing of beauty compared to the current table. What we have now is both vomit-inducing and seizure-inducing. The tacky blue floor would be bad enough, but the floating dollar signs inside the "video hexagons" represent sensory overload in the extreme (and make it impossible for me to concentrate on actual gameplay).
There are a great many reasons why I cannot stand TPIR in its current state, but the horrendous turntable is the #1 reason. Seriously, how can anybody find the Hollywood Mural turntable (as awful as it was) to be more repugnant than the current turntable?
Oh look, another excuse for you to trash the current show again. Sigh.
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Oh look, another excuse for you to trash the current show again. Sigh.
I find it interesting that instead of responding to my criticisms of the current turntable (for example, by explaining the reasons why you like it), you instead choose to level a personal criticism at me. I can respect people liking the current show, but quite frankly, people like you serve to intimidate dissenters from expressing their opinions.
In retrospect, I regret stating that the current turntable is vomit-inducing and seizure-inducing, as that was over-the-top. But everything else I said accurately reflects how I feel, including the fact that I think the current turntable suffers from far more "sensory overload" than the Hollywood mural turntable. (I think that it also lacks symmetry, which is a criticism that I recall being leveled against the Hollywoood mural turntable way back when.) And quite frankly, I believe that the floating dollar signs on the video portion of the turntable are quite distracting. I cannot imagine that I am alone in that opinion.
Also, I am not somebody who automatically despises every single thing that was done in the post-Barker Era. While Drew's hosting is not my cup of tea, I do think he is a lot better than he was during his first few years. I also think he did a superb job in hosting the retrospective about Bob. (It was his finest hour, in my opinion.) And regarding the other set changes made since Season 35, I have no objections to them. Actually, most of the changes to modernize the set have been done very tastefully, with the turntable being the glaring exception.
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I find it interesting that instead of responding to my criticisms of the current turntable (for example, by explaining the reasons why you like it), you instead choose to level a personal criticism at me. I can respect people liking the current show, but quite frankly, people like you serve to intimidate dissenters from expressing their opinions.
In retrospect, I regret stating that the current turntable is vomit-inducing and seizure-inducing, as that was over-the-top. But everything else I said accurately reflects how I feel, including the fact that I think the current turntable suffers from far more "sensory overload" than the Hollywood mural turntable. (I think that it also lacks symmetry, which is a criticism that I recall being leveled against the Hollywoood mural turntable way back when.) And quite frankly, I believe that the floating dollar signs on the video portion of the turntable are quite distracting. I cannot imagine that I am alone in that opinion.
Also, I am not somebody who automatically despises every single thing that was done in the post-Barker Era. While Drew's hosting is not my cup of tea, I do think he is a lot better than he was during his first few years. I also think he did a superb job in hosting the retrospective about Bob. (It was his finest hour, in my opinion.) And regarding the other set changes made since Season 35, I have no objections to them. Actually, most of the changes to modernize the set have been done very tastefully, with the turntable being the glaring exception.
Here is my issue.
Nearly every time your name comes up, I know it's going to be a post bashing the current show. This was a thread about season 31 and the set of that time- and you turned it into a "agh, I hate the show now for ____ reason".
There was no reason for you to post that beyond letting everyone else know how you feel- thats not a conversation, thats, to use a phrase from Drew, being a telephone pole screamer.
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Here is my issue.
Nearly every time your name comes up, I know it's going to be a post bashing the current show. This was a thread about season 31 and the set of that time- and you turned it into a "agh, I hate the show now for ____ reason".
There was no reason for you to post that beyond letting everyone else know how you feel- thats not a conversation, thats, to use a phrase from Drew, being a telephone pole screamer.
I certainly understand your point about my shifting the topic of conversation in this thread, and that is a valid criticism.
I wanted to express my objections to the current turntable. Perhaps in hindsight, I should have made a new thread just discussing that, but I feared my doing that would be no less welcomed than expressing my thoughts in this thread. Since my complaints of the current turntable were very similar to the complaints so many were having about the Hollywood mural turntable, I opted to express them in this thread.
Also, it was not my intention to completely shift the topic of discussion away from the Hollywood mural turntable, but rather link both of them together as being visually distracting to the viewers. And in fact, the last question I posed in my original post basically indicated that I wanted posters here to compare and contrast any objections they had with the Hollywood mural turntable to the current turntable.
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Hey...it's ok. I get it.
I've been frustrated with the direction of discussion not just on this board, but in the GS community because there's a LOT of crapping on current shows and a LOTTT of unreasonableness these days.
I directed some of my vitriol at you, and I came off a little harsh- I am sorry.
Bearing your point, the current turntable is not my favorite. It's...ok, but I wish they would stick with a three stripe pattern (they did this for decades week and looked GREAT). But I will take this turntable a thousand times over the Hollywood turntable, the first two Drew Carey turntables, and that weird season where the turntables had two separate designs in 1982.
Also...I HATED The Season 31-34 and Season 35 doors. Like a lot.
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Hey...it's ok. I get it.
I've been frustrated with the direction of discussion not just on this board, but in the GS community because there's a LOT of crapping on current shows and a LOTTT of unreasonableness these days.
I came off a little harsh- I am sorry.
Bearing your point, the current turntable is not my favorite. It's...ok, but I wish they would stick with a three stripe pattern (they did this for decades week and looked GREAT). But I will take this turntable a thousand times over the Hollywood turntable, the first two Drew Carey turntables, and that weird season where the turntables had two separate designs in 1982.
Urbanpreppie, I really appreciate your kind and thoughtful response.
I sincerely apologize to you and anybody else for the harshness in the things that I have written.
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Also...I HATED The Season 31-34 and Season 35 doors. Like a lot.
Any particular reason? Too colorful? Just don't like the designs? I'm kind of surprised because it seems like quite a few people liked the 31-34 doors. I've heard a few people say they don't care for the 35 doors, but one common reason was because there was no discernible pattern/border to distinguish Door #1, #2, #3. All three doors were the same. I've never seen someone reply they *hate* both designs. The only problem I have with the 35 doors is that "The Price Is Right" logo is too small. In fact, had Bob not retired in 2007, I would have hoped that they would have kept the rainbow design for the season 36 doors, removed the "35 Years" graphic, and centered and expanded "The Price Is Right" logo to full size. The blue and green streamers could stay or go. Whichever looked better.
I actually like the classic door designs with the white backgrounds behind the TPIR logo from 1972-2002 quite a lot. But after 30 years it was nice to get a more colorful design. Agree to disagree.
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Many years ago I remember seeing a 3D mockup someone made of the set which paired the blue starburst doors from seasons 31-34 with the purple/red/orange turntable, and I thought it looked really good.
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One thing I forgot about is the backside (that spun around to reveal games and prizes) of the Hollywood mural turntable which featured the classic design, but with colors matching the Hollywood mural. I liked that look as well and maybe it would have looked good with all the walls utilizing that design.
(https://i.ibb.co/1RZyR7R/20022003.jpg)
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One thing I forgot about is the backside (that spun around to reveal games and prizes) of the Hollywood mural turntable which featured the classic design, but with colors matching the Hollywood mural. I liked that look as well and maybe it would have looked good with all the walls utilizing that design.
That would have meant the majority of the walls would have been yellow. I doubt they would want such a bright color in the middle of the panels behind Bob.