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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: nanny on August 26, 2008, 04:42:45 PM

Title: More News
Post by: nanny on August 26, 2008, 04:42:45 PM
Hey Guys, more news from here on the 3rd Floor:

There are rumblings of some major updates coming to the show.  All the important parties (except the Producer?) are meeting this Friday to discuss the options.  One of the items up for discussion is the host.  Trust me when I say this is a big meeting!

:)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRfan222 on August 26, 2008, 04:45:57 PM
Fremantle wants to get rid of Drew? Why?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: djryan on August 26, 2008, 04:59:43 PM
And where is your source?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: mbetush on August 26, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
hmm, lets see, 2 overall messages.  i say garf.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 26, 2008, 05:02:26 PM
Not that I'm 100% defending this...but the last time they were pretty darn accurate. (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=8027.msg113386#msg113386)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRFAN1964 on August 26, 2008, 05:04:15 PM
If Fremantle is considering replacing Drew as host -  it wouldn't bother me.  Ever since he stepped in as the new host - I have almost completely lost interest in the show. Yes, I know it's the contestants who make the show. But, IMHO I never did like Drew's hosting abilities - on any of the shows he did.  IF this is indeed true, I hope Fremantle will give someone like Todd Newton another whack at it.  I have read stories of who tried out a year ago and, I was hoping then, it would have been anyone but Drew.  
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRfan222 on August 26, 2008, 05:07:23 PM
Ok now I'm worried.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: noobslayer88 on August 26, 2008, 05:21:55 PM
If they really are considering getting rid of him, I can see why: He doesn't want the show to change. We know he hated the purple wheel. He would most likely hate any other major changes they try to make, and getting rid of him would make executing these changes easier. But nevertheless, the idea of firing Drew is absolutely ridiculous. Fremantle is even crazier than I thought, and I thought they couldn't get much worse...
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Kirsten Vaccaro on August 26, 2008, 05:29:25 PM
I hope it isn' true i like Drew has host he doing a wonderful job!

if he fired i'm going to watch it anymore Drew made the show fun!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 05:41:06 PM
It's interesting this should come up because I've been thinking along these lines.  Here's why:

Off the record, it's all but certain Roger was let go because he was an agent of the status quo.  Drew has gone on record several times as being ardently opposed to the many and drastic changes being batted around, which to the minds of the execs at Fremantle (only one "e" this time) puts him in the same category.  noobslayer88 is absolutely correct in asserting that this puts a big bulls-eye right on him, as Fremantle wants someone in the host spot that they can control and who won't offer resistance to change.  To their minds, TPiR's overhaul is long overdue, and anyone who stands in the way is denying the importance of change.

I'll even take it a step further.  I spoke directly with an unnamed Fremantle representative yesterday morning (I was trying to get them to open up and give me a light plot for one of the HD shows from last season), and they said in no uncertain terms that the atmosphere there is "highly volatile" right now and that no one's job is safe.  They declined to give specifics, but one of the issues they said was a hotbed right now is "talent," which could only mean Drew or Rich.  As much as I know he wants to get on camera, I highly doubt it's Rich, doubly so since he's been less than vocal about the possible changes to the show.  Drew, however, has been highly vocal in his desires to preserve the status quo.

I will be the first to admit Drew wouldn't have been my first pick at first to replace Bob.  He's grown on me in some ways, but there are still days when I think about the alternatives that weren't explored, or that were glossed over entirely.  That said, he's clearly got the heart and enthusiasm that the job requires; and because his views are so much in line with popular opinion, I don't think he deserves to be canned.  Quite the opposite, if I were Fremantle, I'd look at that as an asset and a glaring reason to keep Drew at all costs.  That's just my two cents, though.

As before, I'll leave the discussion to finer minds than mine, since again it's been too many hours since I had coffee.  Discuss away...
Title: Re: More News
Post by: mbetush on August 26, 2008, 05:45:50 PM
I know on another message board (and maybe here too), there was a thread that said, finish the following: "I'll stop watching the price is right when _________________"

I now know my answer, I'll stop watching TPIR when they can drew carey, no matter how short or long he's been host.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Mallory16 on August 26, 2008, 06:01:31 PM
Getting rid of Drew would likely not be as easy as getting rid of Roger, though.  I'd imagine CBS itself would probably step in if there were talks of firing Drew.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: 3StrikesFan on August 26, 2008, 06:01:45 PM
Replacing Drew Carey right now would be the stupidest thing Fremantle would do in trying to "revive" the show. Now, I agree that Drew was not my first choice as host either, but he is not that bad. At times, I think he had better moments than Bob with contestant interactions, games, etc.

What are they gonna do. Replace Drew in mid-season with someone they can control like a robot? No matter whom they replace Drew with, if anyone, I have a feeling no one would like the changes either. The games would have to be learned once again by a new host, which would be a problem. And if they are attempting to take a nobody and use them as host, that probably won't work. Who will go to the show with a host that no one knows?

At least Drew is known to most and gained popularity. People warmed up to Drew, wearing Cleveland shirts, etc. In the beginning of the tapings for Season 36, it was mentioned that some audience members were paid to fill seats. What's gonna happen with a no one host and a show that's totally revamped? Seats will probably have paid audience members in them all the time. Because, unfortunately, when shows have changed drastically, with new people, rules, etc, (like comedies, dramas) people lose interest and stop watching.

We'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Alfonzo on August 26, 2008, 06:09:14 PM
Lots of luck finding a new host if Drew gets fired. I know it's a high-profile job, but who would want it knowing they would have little to no input on the product?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: spellingbeej on August 26, 2008, 06:13:59 PM
Something tells me this actually has nothing to do with Drew.  Anyone wanna guess why I say this?  (We've talked about it before.)

Just a hunch...could be worth nada in the end.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 06:15:09 PM
Well spellingbeej, don't keep it to yourself--what's your theory?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Season36Fan on August 26, 2008, 06:16:20 PM
Lots of luck finding a new host if Drew gets fired. I know it's a high-profile job, but who would want it knowing they would have little to no input on the product?

Oh geez, I hope I don't get banned for this...

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It's a joke everybody, It's a joke....
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Alfonzo on August 26, 2008, 06:19:52 PM
I have to admit, that made me chuckle a little! :-)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: spellingbeej on August 26, 2008, 06:20:13 PM
Well, I didn't think the message was pessimistic at all.

So much so, I think some people's wishes, even if just for one show, will come true.  And the first letter in the wish is what?

*ding*  B

Of course, I know nothing and this is just all conjecture.  Its wishful thinking, but hey, can I wish?   Please?

Realistically, probably not, but it's a theory.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: goldroadfanatic on August 26, 2008, 06:21:38 PM
You can't possibly be saying that they want Bob to come back to host the show?  The man just retired and I don't know if he wants to get back into show biz after he left on his own terms.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 06:28:41 PM
May I be the first to ring in and say:

 :roll:

Honestly, we heard rumors INDENTICAL to this, as you'll recall, at the top of Season 36 with rumors that Bob would be back to host various primetime events.  Has that happened?  No, and from that day to this I honestly thought discussions like this were behind us.  Bob has retired, by all accounts is enjoying his retirement, and probably wouldn't want to make a comeback--however temporarily--for the stated reason of not wanting to confuse viewers.

We've covered this ground enough...and unless you've got an inside source that suggests Bob may in fact return, things like this are best left unsaid.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Season36Fan on August 26, 2008, 06:28:50 PM
You can't possibly be saying that they want Bob to come back to host the show?  The man just retired and I don't know if he wants to get back into show biz after he left on his own terms.

Not only that, but they just fired Roger, TPTB seem to want to... umm... adjust a few things (I'm as optimistic as possible here, of course) and Syd surely has an iron fisted grasp on Bob's OTHER old job.... 

Why would he want to come back under those terms?   

Insert 3 Strikes "NO" graphic here...
Title: Re: More News
Post by: goldroadfanatic on August 26, 2008, 06:30:56 PM
Well, when I saw the letter "B" come up, I thought he was referring to Bob.  What else that starts with a B could spellingbeej be talking about?  I know asking this doesn't make me less of a fool than I am making myself out to be right now.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 06:32:57 PM
This is where that "TPiR A-B-C" thread in OILF comes in handy.  What else could B stand for in the TPiR universe?

Breslow...Barker...Bargain...Bar...Beau ties...Big...Bid...sorry, but of those, Barker (or Bob) remains the only logical reference.

spellingbeej, out with it already!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: spellingbeej on August 26, 2008, 06:33:25 PM
No, not replacing Drew.  What went through my head was a cameo perhaps, not a complete return.

Big picture...I just don't see this as a firing Drew situation.  That would be beyond stupid.   If that happens, who knows what kind of legal action could go down?  I mean, Drew is barely into the 2nd year of his 5-year contract?  Unless this is the NFL, they kinda have to honor it unless Drew did something boneheaded.

I'll say that I don't think it is a bad thing and it is not Drew getting canned.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 06:34:35 PM
spellingbeej, stop beating about the bush and spit it out already!!!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: spellingbeej on August 26, 2008, 06:40:10 PM
I kinda did....I'm sensing they want to get ratings and do an MDS with Bob maybe doing one game or coming out, saying hi and Drew kisses him or something crazy.

That's what I was saying.

The more optimistic thought on this....maybe Fremantle is giving Drew a contract extension?  Yeah, he's been outspoken about this, but I would really think that this source (who I believe to be somebody directly on the inside because of their longevity of lurking and got the last one right) would like warn us of bad news.  Otherwise, I wouldn't wanna be in their shoes on this board.  Posting a smile to "bad" news would not be cool at all.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: ChinookUT on August 26, 2008, 06:41:58 PM
Posting a smile to "bad" news would not be cool at all.

That's a good point, actually.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 06:45:11 PM
I can rule that one out wholeheartedly...for three reasons:

1.  Bob would NEVER do that with the current turmoil up there, especially just for a cheap stunt like that.
2.  Bob would NEVER do that after having been ON the show since September 4, 1972 and EP for probably half that time, for just a quick cameo.
3.  The same Fremantle staffer I spoke to said in no uncertain terms that no primetimers of that nature are planned for right now.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The_Great_Butler on August 26, 2008, 06:48:08 PM
Quote
That's a good point, actually.

I get the impression the smiley was referring to excitement over breaking this news.

Sadly I have to subscribe to the theory that Drew is giving Fremantle a hard time about some kind of major change and they're looking to force him out... I can now much more envision a John O'Hurley or Todd Newton hosting the show this time next year.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: monc on August 26, 2008, 07:00:00 PM
ahhh I didn't notice the smile there, so maybe its not bad news, so maybe #1 Bob might pop up for one show or #2 CBS has decided to make a weekly primetime show for mid-season?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 26, 2008, 07:02:10 PM
Possibility:  "Drew's making too many comments, let's sack him."

We wish:  "We've made too many mistakes...how much can we offer Roger to come back and fix everything?"
Title: Re: More News
Post by: spellingbeej on August 26, 2008, 07:13:25 PM

We wish:  "We've made too many mistakes...how much can we offer Roger to come back and fix everything?"

I think we all wish that.

Now, if I'm John O'Hurley or Todd Newton, if I see this go down, how do I not know that would be either of those guys come 2010 or 2011?

If they think they are gonna give Drew Carey a shorter tenure on TPIR than Louie Anderson had on Family Feud, they must be beyond stupid.

On top of all this, this seems like an end of year business item anyway.

Besides, hell hath no fury like a LFAT's scorn.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: catdogwheel on August 26, 2008, 07:14:20 PM
Since we all really don't know what the meeting is going to be about, I think we should wait until then before we jump to conclusions.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRfan222 on August 26, 2008, 07:35:58 PM
Well since Nancy said that the meeting was to discuss major updates to Price and something concerning Drew. I'm sorry but I have to believe that Drew is standing in the way of the changes Fremantle want to make to the show.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 07:40:15 PM
You don't "have" to believe that, TPiRFan222.  That's established fact.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRfan222 on August 26, 2008, 07:42:14 PM
I'm just worried that Fremantle will decide to fire Drew.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Trivia Trap on August 26, 2008, 07:44:18 PM
Okay, as stupid as it sounds, dont you think if they were going to fire Drew, that they would have done it before the season even started.

I would be honored and so happy to see Bob again. Except for probably 10 or 15 years there, I bet you Bob was very nice. I bet you he was very strict, but still very nice if you played his game.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 07:44:46 PM
We've said previously that they're anti-anyone-who-opposes-change.  Drew is opposed to the changes they want to make, at least most of them.

You don't have to have pointed ears to draw the logical conclusion.

But, logic isn't the only factor here.  There's also good business practice, and good business practice does NOT include firing Drew at this time.  After all the upheavals the last time, they risk a full-out fan revolt if they put us through another long and secrecy-filled host search.  
Title: Re: More News
Post by: PriceFanArmadillo on August 26, 2008, 07:47:43 PM
Honestly, what makes you think Fremantle cares about fans at this point?

Or ever cared about fans, for that matter?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
Honestly, what makes you think Fremantle cares about fans at this point?

Or ever cared about fans, for that matter?

Maybe it's my Comm training coming to the fore and getting in the way of good old common sense...call me a raving lunatic  :lol:

You make a good point though Army, their actions are definitely not comporting them as broadcasters with their audience in mind.  TPiR has always been noted for its ability to bridge the generations, and you'd think Fremantle would know that; the fact that they want to Idolize it now shows me that they don't care about that unique trait and are only interested in one single demographic.  That has "disaster" written all over it.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Flerbert419 on August 26, 2008, 07:50:47 PM
All the important parties (except the Producer?) are meeting this Friday to discuss the options.

Wouldn't that, under normal circumstances, include the Host?

And discuss the options......of what?  

One of the items up for discussion is the host.

Not necessarily the changing of the host, but they might be talking about Drew in general and how he interacts with the contestants, prizes, models, etc.  

I hope we are jumping to conclusions.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Bluescreen_ODeff on August 26, 2008, 07:58:18 PM
I say that Drew's a good host.  I read that 1984 TV Guide article about game show hosts.  I think Mark Goodson described this; it's a description of a good game show host (note that this is not verbatim):

Imagine that you're on top of a mountain, and you're in a car with a stick shift.  You have to drive down the mountain in reverse.  And while you're doing that, you have to be witty.

If Drew can do that, then he's got lasting power.  Bob Barker sure did; he has a resume covering half a century!

As for the future of the show; I think we should continue to be "cautiously optimistic".  If there is a new host, pray that he or she knows the games at the start, since that would help ease his or her tenure.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: jimlange on August 26, 2008, 08:02:51 PM
We are well into the season (in tapings) by now.  If Drew really is getting the pink paycheck, then it won't be until the end of the season.  Also if it really is coming down to this, I think CBS is gonna step in.  I don't think CBS is gonna let a show that has been a hit on their network for 37 years now go down without a fight.  Plus if they get rid of Drew, whose gonna take show?  NOBODY.  If they get wind of what Fremantle wants to do it, they don't wanna be known as the host who ruined TPIR.  Fremantle may win some battles, but I have a feeling they aren't gonna win the war.

jimlange

Title: Re: More News
Post by: spellingbeej on August 26, 2008, 08:10:15 PM
Also if it really is coming down to this, I think CBS is gonna step in.  I don't think CBS is gonna let a show that has been a hit on their network for 37 years now go down without a fight. 



In Syd Vinnedge's own words, "CBS protects us."  Though, they protect them as long as they are making money.  If you making a mass firing, you are not making money and if you are, you won't be making money.

CBS won't protect Fremantle if they are this irresponsible.  Ultimately, its in CBS's court.  After all, they let Fremantle on the air in the first place.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: MrBill1978 on August 26, 2008, 08:16:42 PM
What is Drew's contract at this point?  I think Drew has the stones to walk out on the gig, if the BS was heavy enough, that is.  Now wouldn't that be something?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob79 on August 26, 2008, 08:25:46 PM
It's like i've said before, Fremantle, specifically Syd, is doing everything possible to destroy the show. It's a shame and disgrace really. If they sack Drew, they might as well just close things up and go home-the show at that point will be done.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 08:28:15 PM
I recognize the signs of what's going on up there though...I see it at the Army base where I work all the time:  get a new command staff, and they want to change everything around for the simple reason that they think they know better.  It's change for the sake of change, all for the purpose of a new battalion commander wanting his stamp on things, and if I'm not mistaken Cecile Frot-Coutaz has already said that's what she wants.  They don't care who or what stands in the way of their bright ideas, plain and simple, and they won't let a little thing like common sense stop them from being reckless.

EDIT:  name changed to reflect proper name.  Thanks TPiRFan222!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRfan222 on August 26, 2008, 08:29:05 PM
Her name is Cecile Frot-Coutaz.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: FredtheOne26 on August 26, 2008, 08:45:10 PM
What the... ? this is just a rumor. Drew was enjoyable and great for is first season and I'm pissed off   >:( that people want Bob to return host. He's retired ! Drew is the new host of this fantastic game show and encourage him if you love the show... or just say nothing and don't listen to the price is right !
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 08:49:08 PM
...and I'm pissed off   >:( that people want Bob to return host.

Don't get pissed, Bob was the man who took TPiR and propelled it to its highest level of fame ever.  To those who would say the host doesn't make the show, I invite you visit YouTube and search for "The New Price is Right 1994" (see also:  Davidson, Doug).  AFAIC, Bob is THE MAN, and I'd have given anything if we could've held onto him for just one more season.  I miss him still and while I won't say anything negative about Drew, there are days when I want Bob back.  Plain and simple.

Drew is the new host of this fantastic game show and encourage him if you love the show... or just say nothing and don't [watch] the price is right !

Correct, Drew is the new host and we all have wished him the best from day one (even those of us who had doubts, and I count myself among them), and if we didn't all love the show we wouldn't be here.  But I would respectfully request you not tell us to "say nothing and don't" watch the show.  Everyone's entitled to their opinions around here.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Willman14 on August 26, 2008, 09:14:59 PM
The line that worries me most is the "without the producer?"

Without Fingers? This seems extremely grave. Fingers is obviously the only senior staffer left, and they purposely left her out of this meeting. You know they must be up to no good.

Part of me wonders if Fremantle even gives a hoot about the show. Is it possible they are trying to run the show into the ground so they can move on to bigger and better things?

If it IS really true that they are rethinking the host, could it be another "cost-cutting" move? Obviously, Drew is a big-budget name.

Either way, this news is finally getting me truly depressed about this whole mess. I mean, losing Roger was obviously catastrophic in so many ways, but coming out of it, I think I remained optimistic that the show could make changes in stride where perhaps Roger wouldn't budge. I mean, change isn't always such a terrible thing and some of these changes, while not in the tradition of Price, haven't really been that bad at all. But now, I'm convinced that perhaps we haven't seen anything yet. I dont know what these people hope to achieve. After all, we've said it over and over again, the show airs at 11 AM!! You couldn't even get a much younger demographic at that hour if you renamed the show "Real World: PIR". The show does well for what it's given, in fact, incredibly well. If they want more and more out of it (money obviously), the changes should not come from the proven formula of the show, but from the marketing aspect of the show.

It's like having a small fruit stand that sells the most delicious homegrown fruits and vegetables - but of course it's located way out in farm country. Their reputation is superb, they do excellent business, but they aren't capable of growing unless somehow, that farming community grows. If they want to do better, they dont turn themselves into a Supermarket, selling shipped in produce that tastes like crap along with the whole kitten kaboodle of other things. This destroys the reason people enjoyed coming to the business. Rather than making them more money, they run the business into the ground. But what you can do, is move that business to another area....the city, the suburb, and business increases because more people know about it and can access it. There, you can begin to add more items and perhaps expand and change over time, as the community demands more - however, you gotta stick to the winning formula because THAT's why people are coming in (tuning in) in the first place!

But if you are going to stick to that small farming community, you can't just overhaul that little charming fruit stand that all the locals know, build a large building, slap a big neon sign onto it, bring in crappy produce shipped in on trucks, and pawn it all off as if it were the same thing it always was. You will get new customers, surely, but you will lose far more in the process, killing the business.

I dont know. Perhaps that a silly analogy. But somehow, I think it works well. I'm not saying the show has to change it's time slot per se, but more that they can't expect making huge changes to really do anything to help the ratings. If they really want to change the ratings/demographics, they either have to change the time, advertise more, or figure out an extra incentive for a viewer to tune in at 11 AM (a college sweepstakes/home viewer showcase)? The formula is not the problem!!

Title: Re: More News
Post by: Jnelson09 on August 26, 2008, 09:31:04 PM
So... TPIR should move to a different timeslot? Let's say that TPIR and Guiding Light swapped slots. Would that make a difference?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: goldroadfanatic on August 26, 2008, 09:34:29 PM
Well, the show would gain an after-school audience it didn't have since the show was in the 3:00 PM slot back in the mid-70s. But I don't know how it would fare against General Hospital on ABC and local programming on NBC.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: 88JRFAN on August 26, 2008, 09:36:44 PM
I'd like to see Todd Newton as a host
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Todd on August 26, 2008, 09:38:30 PM
I wouldn't. After seeing what he's like on the Vegas show...just, no.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Jnelson09 on August 26, 2008, 09:44:14 PM
Well, the show would gain an after-school audience it didn't have since the show was in the 3:00 PM slot back in the mid-70s. But I don't know how it would fare against General Hospital on ABC and local programming on NBC.

Local programming wouldn't be a problem, but yeah, I could see some difficulty against General Hospital. Why did they never show soaps before noon, I wonder?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: bingocaller1 on August 26, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
I have seen Todd Newton in action in Atlantic City and there was NOTHING WRONG with Todd!!!!!!!!!!

Todd would be a good host but lets wait until we here for sure before jumping the gun here!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 26, 2008, 09:55:07 PM
Wasn't there a clip somewhere of Todd doing Race Game at the live show?  I saw one a while back and I'd love to see it again, can anyone find it?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: GoldenBulldog on August 26, 2008, 10:06:03 PM
The following is a little bit of home-grown wisdom from John "GoldenBulldog" Gillmen:

I just read this entire thread (haha that rhymed! :-D) today, and I just have this sinking feeling that Fremantle just wants to run the show into the ground.  Think of it this way:  it's kinda like the movie Major League (if you haven't seen Major League, Charlie Sheen's in it) in which the "owner" of the Cleveland Indians wants her team to lose and finish last--by running it into the ground nonetheless--so that she could move the team to Miami and onto bigger things.  However...the team struck back and...well, you'll just have to watch it for yourself.  :-D  

This is what I hypothesize Fremantle doing; that's what Cecile Frot-Coutaz wants to do to an American institution like TPIR--to run it into the ground and move onto bigger things.  However, I believe that our "team," in this case the entire staff (Drew, Fingers, Rich, etc.), can--and WILL--strike back, especially if news of these supposed changes leaks over to CBS.  Trust me, CBS WILL do something about Fremantle's carelessness.  

Folks, I strongly encourage you to write to CBS and TPIR--show them that we are LFAT's who do not want to see anything happen to a formula that has stood the test of time for 37 years.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The_Great_Butler on August 26, 2008, 10:18:34 PM
I have seen Todd Newton in action in Atlantic City and there was NOTHING WRONG with Todd!!!!!!!!!!

Todd would be a good host but lets wait until we here for sure before jumping the gun here!

I wouldn't mind Todd (seen him in AC too) but I'm more than happy with Drew.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: mrbrown2195 on August 26, 2008, 10:18:44 PM
John or Marc - do we have any sort of independent confirmation on this meeting? Not to doubt the parent, as (s)he has posted an accurate account before, but as some have pointed out - (s)he only has two posts.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: whewfan on August 26, 2008, 10:21:23 PM
It IS possible they may be talking with Drew about his handling of the show. We have discussed some of his shortcomings and strengths many times here, and perhaps they need to discuss how to make him more polished. That being said, I think he's overcome MOST of his weaknesses and is a better fit for TPIR than he was way back in October when he started.

I do think getting rid of Drew would be a HUGE mistake, and certainly bringing back Bob wouldn't improve things. Didn't they learn that when they fired Ray Combs and brought back Richard Dawson? I'll admit I wouldn't mind seeing Bob host perhaps an occasional MDS, but we all know that WILL NOT HAPPEN.

In fact, I think they brought back bikinis and foreign cars and made the changes that HAVE happened so that Bob wouldn't WANT to return.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: goldroadfanatic on August 26, 2008, 10:27:25 PM
Didn't they learn that when they fired Ray Combs and brought back Richard Dawson?

Actually ratings for Feud did improve with Dawson back at the helm, but because of pre-emptions for the O.J. Simpson trial and possible bad scheduling by the stations that carried the show, the ratings hit rock bottom.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Big Man on August 26, 2008, 10:32:36 PM
I have read the whole thread, and I must be honest. I am shaking in my boots!! I wish to the Almighty that someone, anyone at Dismantle would come to there senses and see how stupid they are acting. I wish they would let me and some of the rest of us attend this s@#t session and tell them what really needs to go down.

1. Drew STAYS!!!! End of discussion.

2. NO CHANGES. They screwed up the set and music enough for Season 36.

3. Hey Syd and Cecile, STOP TRYING TO ROYALLY SCREW AN AMERICAN TRADITION!!!!!! :-x
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRfan222 on August 26, 2008, 10:35:50 PM
It's Fremantle they won't listen to us.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Big Man on August 26, 2008, 10:39:06 PM
Maybe if we b#$ch enough. :clipboard: :clipboard:
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SteveGavazzi on August 26, 2008, 10:43:29 PM
The last time Fremantle had a "big meeting" about The Price Is Right, they fired Roger.

I can't really see any reason to be optimistic about this.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRfan222 on August 26, 2008, 10:44:39 PM
This guy I'm talking to on AIM says that Fremantle won't change a thing about the show. He's dead wrong.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Season36Fan on August 26, 2008, 10:55:29 PM
[soapbox]
I challenge you all to ask yourself three questions before you go bananas over something:

1. Does it directly affect my welfare, or tjat of my family or my friends?
2. Does it prevent me from living my life the way I choose?
3. Does it significantly alter my perception of myself in a negative way?

If the answer to any one of those questions is yes, then by all means, do what you must. If you cannot answer "yes" with certainty (not by assumption), the answer must be no.  If the answer is no, then why not stay calm until it's all over and then  just accept the outcome and find a way to be happy? 

Trust me, it's a much better way to live.   It makes for much less stress.

Thank you all, and goodnight.

[/soapbox]
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SteveGavazzi on August 26, 2008, 11:02:28 PM
Dude, this is a site populdated by people who are obsessed with the show.  Of course we're gonna worry about it.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: ClockGameJohn on August 26, 2008, 11:03:23 PM
While at this point we have no reason to doubt the original poster here, we also cannot confirm anything other than a meeting possibly taking place.  Unknown when, unknown where.

I highly doubt that there is a need for all this speculation about the host being replaced, but then again it appears that the person who started this thread may have a bit more knowledge than Marc and I.

Let's all take a deep breath.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Big Man on August 26, 2008, 11:04:54 PM
[soapbox]
I challenge you all to ask yourself three questions before you go bananas over something:

1. Does it directly affect my welfare, or tjat of my family or my friends?
2. Does it prevent me from living my life the way I choose?
3. Does it significantly alter my perception of myself in a negative way?

If the answer to any one of those questions is yes, then by all means, do what you must. If you cannot answer "yes" with certainty (not by assumption), the answer must be no.  If the answer is no, then why not stay calm until it's all over and then  just accept the outcome and find a way to be happy? 

Trust me, it's a much better way to live.   It makes for much less stress.

Thank you all, and goodnight.

[/soapbox]


1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes

Are you a fan?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SteveGavazzi on August 26, 2008, 11:10:19 PM
Are you a fan?

Yes, he is.  We all react to these things in different ways -- and while I'm clearly reacting to it differently than Season36Fan is, I don't think his reaction is any reason to question whether he's a loyal friend and true.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: temptation1979ga on August 26, 2008, 11:23:07 PM
I think that's a good point, Steve. We all react to the possibilities here in different ways. Some people take this site and the show more seriously than others. That doesn't mean things aren't in perspective in our lives. After all, this site is about Price is Right, so those types of reactions are perfectly normal and expected here. At the same time, others don't see many things that go on here as that big of a deal, and that's fine too. It's all about trying to see things from the other person's point of view and be respectful of their feelings, whether we agree or not. That's what is so much fun about being a part of this board.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Season36Fan on August 26, 2008, 11:38:28 PM
Yes, he is.  We all react to these things in different ways -- and while I'm clearly reacting to it differently than Season36Fan is, I don't think his reaction is any reason to question whether he's a loyal friend and true.

Thank you for the kind words, Steve.

In truth, the goings on recently concern me for the welfare of the show, and like many of you, I'm anxious that when all is said and done, it may not be the same show that I've enjoyed for over twenty years.  While I think the changes (in general) for S36 were good things, Drew is a great host, and I certainly feel badly for Roger, the fact is that I still go to work, come home, kiss my wife, get tackled by my two year old, and go to church on Sunday.  None of that changed in any way last year, and they won't this year.  All in all, some of the happenings this year are regrettable, but it doesn't really affect my life that much.   Maybe that's just me.


1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
Are you a fan?
BigMan, I am interested to know how exactly these changes affect you according to the questions I put forth.    Those are pretty big things, you know.    I'm asking because I honestly don't understand how it could possibly do so (and by saying that I do not intend to belittle what you feel). 

As far as being "obsessed" with the show, ask my family.  My wife cracked the other day after seeing my computer screen... "Well, I could have told you what website you're on."  I mean, heck, I read the mobile version on my PDA all day long between customers, during lunch, etc.    You know how Firefox will auto-complete a web address?   When I type "W" it autocompletes www.golden-road.net.  When I type "G" you get the same.   The TPIR S36 theme is the ringtone on my cell phone.    I think I qualify.    I just try to keep things in my life in perspective.   Some of you might think it's heresy to say so, but if Price suddenly vanished from the planet, I'd be OK.  A little "weirded out" but I'd be OK. 

Title: Re: More News
Post by: Reloaden on August 27, 2008, 12:02:01 AM
After hearing that rumor about making tpir similar to tpir 1994 with the video wall and changing the format etc etc  I'm not going to believe this until i see a better source. but if this is true i would be happy i don't think Drew is a good host. i wouldn't mind seeing him replaced with Michael Burger John O'Hurley or Todd Newton. Don't get me wrong i think Drew did a Fantastic job on power of ten but Tpir is not his kind of show
Title: Re: More News
Post by: wpghi5 on August 27, 2008, 01:25:45 AM
I have indeed gotten used to Drew hosting the show. Despite some minor things he's certainly made this show for us to enjoy as possible since Bob's retirement. Yet in my mind it's the contestants that make the show popular. Of the changes I've heard so far I was indeed totally against it. Yet when it comes to a possibility of Drew getting the can that's when I'm a bit confused here. I know for one thing with the models wearing bikinis again along with the return of foreign cars Bob would indeed not return. Plus it's also taking a physical and mental strain on him because of his age. I don't think he would want do it all again. Since the contestants are indeed the main part of the show I wouldn't care less on who would be the host whether it's Drew or indeed somebody else. Yet part of me would be upset if Drew would be let go after going into a year of hosting the show. And with the shirts of that of the audience/potential contestants wearing to show their appreciation towards him it's would be a shame for him to be let go. Or not. Yet we can't assume things until we hear that it is indeed confirmed.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Axl on August 27, 2008, 01:32:03 AM
Some reality checks, please:

1. Fremantle, CBS, or whoever is NOT going to fire Drew simply because he doesn't like changes being made to the show.  Big stars have been coddled through much more obnoxious behavior when they're worth it.  If they choose to let him go, it won't be for that.  It will be because they don't think he's a very good host.

2. Before taking the helm last year, Drew made it clear that he knew little to nothing about the show.  I doubt he's any sort of real "purist."  If he's getting frustrated, it's probably because of the behind-the-scenes turmoil rather than worrying about what color the Big Wheel is or how many strikes are in a bag.  Drew has made it clear in his previous endeavors that he's not interesting in working in a place where the work is not fun.  And as he's reminded everyone many times, he's "rich" enough not to have to do so.

3. Fremantle is NOT deliberately trying to ruin the show.  That makes no sense at all.  If they were no longer interested in doing the show (despite its continuing profitability and all the licensing dough they're raking in internationally), they can just sell the format to another company.  That alone would be worth millions.  Driving the show into the ground accomplishes nothing.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: crazypackersfan on August 27, 2008, 02:26:08 AM
3. Fremantle is NOT deliberately trying to ruin the show.

Thank you for being the voice of reason on this... it makes no sense why a company would want to ruin one of their own properties; they simply have a different way of trying to run the show than most people here. Whether it's for the best or worst is a different story, but they certainly aren't intentionally trying to get it cancelled.

As for changing of the host, if that were to be the case, I will point out that outside of the community of game show fans online (a very, very small minority), Drew Carey is not all that popular as host of The Price Is Right. If nothing else, the 15% ratings dropoff would prove that. I'm not saying that it is or isn't his fault, and I'm not saying that it has anything to do with his performance. All I'm saying is that I can understand why there would be discussion about a host change.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: goldroadfanatic on August 27, 2008, 02:27:50 AM
For what it's worth, that drop in the ratings has to do with the fact that some people stopped watching after Bob Barker left.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: crazypackersfan on August 27, 2008, 02:38:32 AM
For what it's worth, that drop in the ratings has to do with the fact that some people stopped watching after Bob Barker left.

But that proves my point. It may not be Carey's fault, but he's not as popular as Bob Barker is.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Scott5114 on August 27, 2008, 03:17:51 AM
But that proves my point. It may not be Carey's fault, but he's not as popular as Bob Barker is.

True, but would anybody else be?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: temptation1979ga on August 27, 2008, 03:54:29 AM
The only thing that always bothered me about the ratings drop is that it was so gradual. I'd have felt much better if 15% of viewers had left immediately, and we could chalk that up to the "Bob Barker or no one" crowd leaving. However, the show's ratings actually increased for Drew's first couple of weeks. However, by December, the show was down 8% (according to a ratings report posted here at that time) and slowly dwindled down to a total 15 (or even 18, as some sources report) % drop in ratings. I don't know exactly why the viewers are tuning out, but obviously, after sticking around to see the start of the new season, there's something (or multiple things) about the show that just caused people to start tuning out. (And the whole "every daytime show is down in the ratings" argument can't work in this case, because the show Price is on against in many markets, "The View," (I know, shame on me for mentioning that show!) has actually increased its year to year viewship and ratings...not saying everyone turned over to that show, just pointing out that not every show declined...)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Franc on August 27, 2008, 07:37:01 AM
The only thing that always bothered me about the ratings drop is that it was so gradual.

I'd wait until S37 to get bothered by rating drops such as you mentionned. Yes, there is a crowd that stopped watching after Barker left, but there are others that decided to tune in to see how it would be with Drew. Seems like some people lost interrest after a while, but the real test will be how the ratings hold for the second season, when Drew is already established and the machine is well oiled once again.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on August 27, 2008, 08:48:50 AM
I've never been the major posting type on this board, but I have been a member since our MSN days. But lately, two things have happened.

1. I watch the show more than ever.
2. I don't post as much as I used to.

Why? Because Season36Fan personified everything that I've been wanting to say. It seems that if you don't live, walk, eat, breathe, and sleep TPIR, don't know about ALL the special rules of games, don't know what a Garf is, or any of the super-secret lingo, then you really don't get taken seriously, or are not a LFAT.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 27, 2008, 09:47:30 AM
Everyone just calm down for a minute...

The fact is, we know for certain that Drew was not canned as host for Season 37, for the simple reason that taping attendees have already told us that he's still coming through the Big Doors (or the audience) each day without fail.  The show's format--cosmetic and Mo' Money changes notwithstanding--is still intact, at least for Season 37.  Thus far no serious changes have been made.  The shows that air for the next few months are going to be more of the same standard TPiR we've gotten used to from Season 36, albeit without Roger and probably with some strange game lineups coming soon--so my suggestion is, until we've got hard facts, everyone just relax and hope for the best.  With luck, the planned "big meeting" about Drew will just be a coaching session to help him sure up some of his weak points, and Syd and company will get overruled by CBS on the big Idolization they want to make.

That's the approach I'm taking at least.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: mrbrown2195 on August 27, 2008, 10:03:01 AM
Exactly. Everybody stay calm - before everybody panics, let me bring up these three things for y'all to think about:

1. Who is Drew's contract with, CBS or Fremantle? I've talked to quite a few people, and have gotten quite a lot of answers along with a few "I don't know"s. If its with CBS, there's probably little Fremantle can do (except make his work life a living hell).

2. If it is with Fremantle, and they do want to get rid of him, its still a contract that they're going to have to break or buyout (provided there's not some sort of ratings termination clause in there they can take advantage of). How much is it going to cost Fremantle to break or buyout the contract, and would they be willing to pay that much or deal with the cost of litigation? With the infamous cheapness of this company, I doubt it.

3. With regards to "major changes", would Drew even stand for it? He has obviously made his opinions clear about the purple wheel, and that ended up getting reverted back. While he has no creative control over the show, and they don't even bother keeping him "in the loop", he has promised the fans in the past before that very little will change, and I see him as a principled man who would come and speak out against such changes to the show if they were made. The host or a star speaking out against their own show usually doesn't bode well...
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 27, 2008, 10:14:14 AM
mrbrown2195, let me add something to what you said about Drew's opinions and the purple wheel:

I've been speaking with TPiR staff a lot this week, and while I was asked not to share specifics, I can say this:  Drew was not contractually awarded any specific degree of creative control, as mrbrown states; however, his word carries a lot of weight with the staff, and we have Drew to thank for keeping many more changes that haven't been disclosed publicly off the air.  The wheel was just the tip of the iceberg, so anytime someone questions Drew's suitability to be host, stop and ask yourself:  what else could they have changed?

I'm not trying to make anyone paranoid by any means, but...for Season 37 at least, we should be counting our blessings.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: CBSpromoman on August 27, 2008, 11:45:39 AM
[soapbox]
I challenge you all to ask yourself three questions before you go bananas over something:

1. Does it directly affect my welfare, or tjat of my family or my friends?
2. Does it prevent me from living my life the way I choose?
3. Does it significantly alter my perception of myself in a negative way?

Trust me, it's a much better way to live.   It makes for much less stress.

[/soapbox]


My turn on the soapbox:

Not trying to step on anyone's toes and I mean no offense to anyone...but if you seriously think the answer to all three questions is a big "yes," please re-read them and really take the time to THINK about your answer.  Let's say 'Price' was canceled.  Does that really affect your welfare in the grand scheme of things?  Seriously.  I've been a fan of the show since before many of you were even born.  It has always been a big tradition in my life.  But you know, things change and we have to deal with it.

One of the best friends I've ever had is moving to the other side of the country in six days.  I'm sure I'll see him again some day...I may even work up the nerve to fly out there some time.  But he's not going to be here in town so we can catch lunch.  He's not going to be around so we can hang out.  Sure, he'll still be a phone call or an email away, but it won't be the same.  The grief -- yeah, actual grief..who would have thought -- I feel over seeing him and his family move so far away is about a thousand times more intense a feeling than what I felt when Barker signed off for the last time and about a million times more intense a feeling than what I felt about the possibility of a video wall or a purple wheel.

My point in bringing that up is this:  I'm a LF&T.  Always have been.  But folks, 'Price' is a television show: if this show is more important -- really more important -- to you than your family or your friends, or your job, or the rest of your life, then I urge you to stop and rethink things.  Your priorities are out of whack.  And I mean that in the nicest way possible, because even though we always find new things to disagree about, we're all united for the same reason here, and we ought to be able to be a little honest with each other once in a while.

I'll miss 'Price' when it goes away...and I hope that won't be for many more years to come.  But one day it'll happen.  And it's not going to be the day my whole world ends.  I genuinely hope for all of you, those I've gotten to know well over the years and those I've never had an exchange with at all, that it isn't the day yours ends, either.

Some things are more important than a television show, folks.  If you can't grasp that, then I'm afraid you're going to be in for a rough, rough life.  (And I'm older than most of you, so you'll just have to trust me on that.)  Sometimes, it's okay to turn the TV off and go live your life.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: spellingbeej on August 27, 2008, 11:49:31 AM
The wheel was just the tip of the iceberg, so anytime someone questions Drew's suitability to be host, stop and ask yourself:  what else could they have changed?

Drew is a guy that understands the significance of this show.  For a guy who never watched it before he hosted (his words from what I understood), Drew has turned into an unlikely defender for LFATs everywhere.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 27, 2008, 12:16:47 PM
Precisely my point, spellingbeej...if it weren't for Drew, going into Season 37 this show would barely resemble what we all grew up with.  I for one am grateful Drew's sticking up for us fans.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: temptation1979ga on August 27, 2008, 01:59:51 PM
Every now and then people keep mentioning that Price is just a tv show, etc., and with just a couple of exceptions, everyone seems to grasp that quite well. What I want to say is that just because some people seem to flip out over certain changes doesn't mean they don't understand that concept. Although, I would strongly argue that Price is Right indeed has been and is more than just a tv show for some of us. Just one example: it's a link to many wonderful memories of me and my grandfather watching together at his house when I was younger.

I just don't see the need to qualify everything discussed here with the "...but there are many more important things in life" tag. That's true, but I am quite sure 99% of us are reasonable prioritized people who know that already. Just because people seem really upset about changes doesn't mean they think it's the end of the world or they need to see a psychologist. This is a discussion board about the show, and during the rerun times each year, there is little to discuss, and especially now, conjecture will be here and there in these threads. I don't really see the problem with that unless people are saying their lives are over without the show, and I don't really see (maybe one exception) many messages like that.

Now if this were a message board about life's priorities and someone said, "Price is Right might undergo some changes, oh no!", then there might be more reason to wonder about some of us.  :oldlol:  (However, if a person answered "yes" to the three questions posed on the previous page and seriously meant yes, then there should be some type of re-thinking going on, in my opinion...)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Off_trak on August 27, 2008, 02:23:54 PM
Hey Guys, more news from here on the 3rd Floor....


Who is this mysterious person from the third floor? What floor is Drew's office on? hmm...... He does know this site exists, afterall
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The Big Wheel on August 27, 2008, 03:00:36 PM
Who is this mysterious person from the third floor? What floor is Drew's office on? hmm...... He does know this site exists, afterall

One could assume that this person is employed with Fremantle and has an ear to the ground for any new news regarding our favorite game show.   This person probably needs to remain anonymous for one reason or another; most likely to keep his position within the production company as leaking any information could or may result in severe punishment.

Considering CBS staffers, TVC employees and Fremantle executives probably lurk on this board from time to time, we should be fortunate to have a few brave souls here and there who bite the bullet and share what little information they can with us, all while flying under the radar to stay unknown to the better part of this community and to his fellow employees.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 27, 2008, 03:49:41 PM
I think that if they talk about moving tpir's timeslot, the might end up moving it to 1:00 mainly because of millionaire, merv griffens crosswords, and the daytime syndication of deal or no deal.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Season36Fan on August 27, 2008, 04:01:50 PM
so they would want to go up against their biggest competitors?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 27, 2008, 04:12:59 PM
fremantle and cbs, at least in my opinion, have been playing it too safe in their current timeslot.  they haven't had any true competition in their timeslot in a long time.  If the show becomes even more like a modern game show but still retains its own classic format, then i say they should take that gamble.  the only other thing i could see them doing is doing the mds once or twice a week (monday's or tuesdays and thursdays).
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Todd on August 27, 2008, 04:17:36 PM
Monday would NEVER work for an MDS on CBS. Just saying that.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: GoldenBulldog on August 27, 2008, 04:20:33 PM
I have a theory:  What if this so-called "Idolization" of TPIR was NOT meant for the daytime version--but rather for primetime syndicated series?  Just a theory...  :-D
Title: Re: More News
Post by: temptation1979ga on August 27, 2008, 05:07:48 PM
Quote
I think that if they talk about moving tpir's timeslot, the might end up moving it to 1:00 mainly because of millionaire, merv griffens crosswords, and the daytime syndication of deal or no deal.

Those other shows are syndicated though. They're on at different times all over the place. For example, in my area, Millionaire comes on at 6pm and Crosswords at 9am--so what's the point of moving TPIR to 1pm? I don't see the relationship between these other shows and changing TPIR's timeslot.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: goldroadfanatic on August 27, 2008, 05:09:55 PM
Moving TPIR to 1:00 PM would require CBS to move The Young and the Restless, and it would face the first half of All My Children on ABC and the first half of Days of Our Lives on NBC.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: JohnHolder on August 27, 2008, 05:27:30 PM
CBS still has the #1 network daytime schedule. They're not going to tamper with success, particularly since it's the only daypart where they're winning. They haven't changed the daytime schedule in over 15 years - in fact, they haven't changed the 11 AM-4 PM ET schedule since 1987. Don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen now.

And if they moved TPIR out of the 11:00 slot, what would they put in its place?

John
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Trivia Trap on August 27, 2008, 05:48:14 PM
They better not move PiR! I based my schedule of classes around TPiR!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: PimpinJC on August 27, 2008, 06:18:01 PM
I would think that would drop ratings even further if they moved Price out of its 11am ET timeslot.  At least people know when it airs, even if they don't watch it everyday.  And if they did move it, I don't think any show would do as well as Price in that time slot.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: MissesJanice on August 27, 2008, 07:05:26 PM
My turn on the soapbox:

Not trying to step on anyone's toes and I mean no offense to anyone...but if you seriously think the answer to all three questions is a big "yes," please re-read them and really take the time to THINK about your answer.  Let's say 'Price' was canceled.  Does that really affect your welfare in the grand scheme of things?  Seriously.  I've been a fan of the show since before many of you were even born.  It has always been a big tradition in my life.  But you know, things change and we have to deal with it.

One of the best friends I've ever had is moving to the other side of the country in six days.  I'm sure I'll see him again some day...I may even work up the nerve to fly out there some time.  But he's not going to be here in town so we can catch lunch.  He's not going to be around so we can hang out.  Sure, he'll still be a phone call or an email away, but it won't be the same.  The grief -- yeah, actual grief..who would have thought -- I feel over seeing him and his family move so far away is about a thousand times more intense a feeling than what I felt when Barker signed off for the last time and about a million times more intense a feeling than what I felt about the possibility of a video wall or a purple wheel.

My point in bringing that up is this:  I'm a LF&T.  Always have been.  But folks, 'Price' is a television show: if this show is more important -- really more important -- to you than your family or your friends, or your job, or the rest of your life, then I urge you to stop and rethink things.  Your priorities are out of whack.  And I mean that in the nicest way possible, because even though we always find new things to disagree about, we're all united for the same reason here, and we ought to be able to be a little honest with each other once in a while.

I'll miss 'Price' when it goes away...and I hope that won't be for many more years to come.  But one day it'll happen.  And it's not going to be the day my whole world ends.  I genuinely hope for all of you, those I've gotten to know well over the years and those I've never had an exchange with at all, that it isn't the day yours ends, either.

Some things are more important than a television show, folks.  If you can't grasp that, then I'm afraid you're going to be in for a rough, rough life.  (And I'm older than most of you, so you'll just have to trust me on that.)  Sometimes, it's okay to turn the TV off and go live your life.



GIVES CBSPROMOMAN A STANDING OVATION!!!!

AMEN

I have said for the past 10 years (when asked by friends) that I bet Barker will stay through 35 and I bet hangs it up. When Bob announced his retirement on Halloween 06 I was not surprised cause I knew the day would come. My friends expected me to go into mourning....well it is a TV show, and a great one. Barker is the reason I got into broadcasting. I host numerous community events and have followed the ways of hosting from Bob.

I am about to be the announcer/emcee for another famous "Bob" we are doing a version of his show and I have been asked to be the announcer of the show. I am very excited. We are taping the show and I will post it online for you all to see.

So you see, I miss Barker, but Barker was not ever going to not leave! We all knew it would happen eventually! I take the idol that Barker was to me and continue to entertain my area.

All will be good everyone! And pray that those in power get good sense, and keep Kathy Greco in prayer too - I know that things are tough on her right now and she has a lot to oversee.

If anything, at least (thanks to the internet) we will always have access to our favorite moments of Barker, Pennington, Hallstrom, Parkinson, Bradley, Olson, and Roddy Price is Right!

God Bless everyone!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SuperBall85 on August 27, 2008, 08:27:48 PM
Although I've enjoyed the show since I was a kid, I have just been a "hardcore" fan of the show since February. True, and its a great show and I'd hate to see it go. But, I've been through my life with numerous great shows I've loved being canceled or ending by mandate/request/creator's choice/etc. (Star Trek: Enterprise, Justice League Unlimited, Animaniacs, Tokyo Pig, many more) and it hasn't changed my life drastically. Besides, I'm sure I'm not the only one recording all the episodes of Price I can get my hands on either. :P And, hey, if it does end--GSN repeats of the 5000+ episodes of the show become extremely likely.

And, I'm really wondering about this "big meeting" because the last wave of huge rumors turned out to be way over-exaggerated. All that has been changed are small rules on pricing games, some set redesigns, and what sounds like an awesome new edition to the now-74-game pricing lineup. When I see an official press release announcing John O'Hurley as the Host of Price 3000 or whatever, then I'll believe it, but right now--these are just rumors of a possible meeting to discuss what may be changed.

In the meantime, I'll be enjoying repeats I previously missed and then the first-run episodes of Season 37 (!!!) next month! :)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: PriceFanArmadillo on August 27, 2008, 09:12:38 PM
All I know is that if I want to get another chance to see the show I love in person, I should probably make the trip, like, really soon.

Which makes me sad because there's no way I could save up for another trip that quickly.  :(
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 27, 2008, 09:36:02 PM
Army you're fortunate to have even been there in person once.  I've NEVER been there, and my single biggest regret will always be that I didn't get there while Bob was still hosting. 
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRFAN1964 on August 27, 2008, 09:41:59 PM
I, too, have never had the opportunity to attend a tapinig of the show. I wished I had.  I have always wanted to meet Bob in person.  But, those days are no more.  Thank goodness for VHS tapes and recordable DVDs.  I can still see him daily.   
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SteveGavazzi on August 27, 2008, 09:46:57 PM
And, I'm really wondering about this "big meeting" because the last wave of huge rumors turned out to be way over-exaggerated.

Did they really?  We're only a few weeks into the season, and it's already been established that the opening was going to be changed at the first taping until Drew got wind of it and had it nixed.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: RatGnawedCheez on August 27, 2008, 10:14:28 PM
If Drew is really vetoing all these changes, then I'm guessing that is what will be addressed.   It's possible that they'll give him some type of authoritative position, but more likely that they'll just tell him to put up or shut up.  I think they might also ask him to tune up his hosting style.  I mean, I enjoy Drew for his sense of humor, contestant interaction, and generally jolly demeanor, but his lack of polish can be a real issue at times, and it's something that has turned a lot of casual viewers off.  But in any event, I don't think he'll be fired, and I would hate to see that happen.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SuperBall85 on August 27, 2008, 10:29:01 PM
Did they really?  We're only a few weeks into the season, and it's already been established that the opening was going to be changed at the first taping until Drew got wind of it and had it nixed.

Really? That's the first I've heard of that...any details on what it would have been like?

On the flip side, they did listen to Drew and kept the classic-style intro. That's an encouraging sign, I'd say.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Todd on August 27, 2008, 10:31:45 PM
The fact that Drew is fighting for us just shows what kind of a guy he is. You may not like his hosting style, but he understands and respects the history of the show, and really cares. Kudos to you, Drew.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: PriceFan14 on August 27, 2008, 10:47:16 PM
I knew Drew didn't like the purple wheel, but now that I know he is the reason we still have our "COME ON DOWN!" intro I have a whole NEW respect for him. I am really worried about what this meeting could possibly mean. I'm sure Kathy would be very opposed to changes as well, and Fremantle may expect her to make a fuss at this meeting about changes brought up. I just hope that if Fremantle gets way to wacky with their changes that CBS steps in, and that the Price staff step in as well. IMHO, anything less than our CURRENT TPiR (meaning BRAND NEW set, new opening, new staff members ie. host and format changes) is just not acceptable. If the people at Fremantle (like Syd) were smart ( :oldlol: ) they'd just leave the show alone. They've already done enough damage by firing The Dob. I know everyone makes mistakes, but Fremantle seems to be making one-too-many of them on a single show.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 27, 2008, 11:01:49 PM
What I can't understand is, there's precedent for this situation.  Travel back fourteen years with me to 1994, when Paramount first met with CBS executives regarding a proposed "NEW Price is Right" in pre-production at the time.  Then, as now, high-powered executives had their ideas for a new brand of Price that would appeal to younger viewers and would feature a more modern set and updated music, with a completely different opening style and feel for the show.  Then, as now, big meetings happened, and some of them were to deal with "talent" (or lack thereof; see also, Davidson, Douglas).

And what I can't understand is, if they've got such a desire to make all sorts of changes, why not spin off a separate primetime show to test them out?  CBS could theoretically sign off on that, and I rather imagine they'd prefer having a separate primetime show a la TNPiR'94 to testbed the proposed changes rather than just implementing them willy-nilly in daytime and hoping for the best.

Just a thought...
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRFAN1964 on August 27, 2008, 11:10:28 PM
Speaking of the Davidson version of Price - I never again want to see him hosting T.P.I.R.  I was amazed that they even considered him or had him audition for Bob's replacement after he retired.  If you ask me, he's better suited to be in soaps then as a gameshow host - just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: jharvey79 on August 27, 2008, 11:19:48 PM
That is giving Davidson too much credit...he is not even that great of an actor on Young and the Restless.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: price_authority on August 27, 2008, 11:27:27 PM
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Travel back fourteen years with me to 1994, when Paramount first met with CBS executives regarding a proposed "NEW Price is Right" in pre-production at the time.

Why would CBS have been a party to this meeting? CBS did not then, never has and does not now own TPIR. Any such discussions would have been between a syndicator and Goodson Productions. You may have heard of Goodson Productions -- they used to own the show.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2008, 11:50:11 PM
Speaking of the Davidson version of Price - I never again want to see him hosting T.P.I.R.  I was amazed that they even considered him or had him audition for Bob's replacement after he retired.  If you ask me, he's better suited to be in soaps then as a gameshow host - just my 2 cents.
I'm really not sure why you are surprised by this.  He did have hosting experience with the show.  They would have been foolish not to at least consider him. 
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Axl on August 28, 2008, 01:25:00 AM
We're only a few weeks into the season, and it's already been established that the opening was going to be changed at the first taping until Drew got wind of it and had it nixed.

The fact that it's been repeated a few times here without any sort of sourcing at all does not make it an "established" fact.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: jimlange on August 28, 2008, 01:50:39 AM
I can confirm that there was indeed a new opening for TPIR.  A friend of mine visited TPIR last week and told me that I was apart of that new opening.

Names changed to protect the innocent - CGJ
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Axl on August 28, 2008, 02:27:30 AM
Jaimal, do you mean that it's actually being used in tapings now?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: supersaver87 on August 28, 2008, 02:46:48 AM
Then, as now, big meetings happened, and some of them were to deal with "talent" (or lack thereof; see also, Davidson, Douglas).

Speaking of the Davidson version of Price - I never again want to see him hosting T.P.I.R.

C'mon, I can't be the only one who liked Davidson's hosting!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: ClockGameJohn on August 28, 2008, 04:00:12 AM
Before this spirals out of control any more than it already has, allow me to elaborate on jimlange's post:

I believe there are two topics being discussed and confused as one.  Yes, there was a new opening planned for Season 37.  I heard from those who were in the studio that the first taping of the season was rehearsed with the new opening.  Before the audience was let in, the opening was changed back to what we've known for 36+ years.  The only proof I can provide is just my word.

Now, as for a video opening, I've been informed by several audience members (many of whom shared the same confusion) that just prior to Rich's warmup, a highlight reel is now shown on the in studio monitors.  The light border is used on this video, so if you're not paying attention, you might think that the show is actually starting.  One audience member e-mailed to tell me he began clapping and waving when the video came on because he saw the light border and figured it was showtime!

Hopefully this clears things up.  :)

Oh, and we still don't know anything about the substance of this 'reported' meeting coming up, so please keep the speculation controlled.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: mikebev25 on August 28, 2008, 07:30:25 AM
Army you're fortunate to have even been there in person once.  I've NEVER been there, and my single biggest regret will always be that I didn't get there while Bob was still hosting. 

Sadly it's the same way with me.

I'm not Drew's biggest fan, but it would be a HUGE mistake to get rid of him now. Give the guy a chance.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: AdStrommy on August 28, 2008, 08:48:37 AM
This community has a very short memory. Less than a month ago, we all had our panties in a bunch because someone threw something out there about changes coming. We all bit our nails and started dressing in all black because (insert dramatic voice here) the Price Is Right as we know it is dead. We anxiously waited by our computers for news the day tapings resumed for any news....to find that....it's all the same thing we're familiar with. This is like the Rainbow Connection..."somebody thought of that and someone believed it and look what it's done so far." Let's keep this in mind and wait for official word before we go berserk again.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: CBSpromoman on August 28, 2008, 09:51:42 AM
Did they really?  We're only a few weeks into the season, and it's already been established that the opening was going to be changed at the first taping until Drew got wind of it and had it nixed.

Somewhere along the way, I missed something, Steve:  I've read several times about the new opening that was planned.  I've not read that Drew himself nixed it.  Does Drew seriously have enough authority as "just" the host to nix an opening that was produced and paid for and literally ready to go with just a couple of minutes' notice?  If he had such a problem with the idea, wouldn't he have nixed it at a rehearsal?  Wouldn't he have spoken up sooner?  Would he have really been allowed to throw a taping into a potential tailspin by re-revamping the start of the show just moments away from the start?

Or is it possible that someone is just assigning credit to Drew?

One other point for the general population:  the remarks that suggest Drew is some kind of champion for the long-time fans seem a bit ironic to me:  if Drew didn't really know much about the show before he got the job, and even had to be TALKED INTO taking the job, how has Drew suddenly become an "expert" on the way things have always been done and what the real long-term fans really want? 

It appears to me that Drew is suddenly being sainted as some kind of LF&T advocate and it just feels a bit premature.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: pete1974 on August 28, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
C'mon, I can't be the only one who liked Davidson's hosting!

You're not,

I liked him too, he reminded me of Ray Combs at times.  I just attributed and of his screw-ups to the fact that he was new. 

Who knows how much better he might've gotten if that stupid "bleepin-bloopin" O.J. TRIAL hadn't messed up the TV landscape for the syndicated market that year.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 28, 2008, 10:13:31 AM
I wouldn't chalk it up to his necessarily being an expert in all the legacy elements of the show, but it's no stretch of the imagination to think he might just be trying to preserve the status quo.  I know for a fact he trolls our boards here, and that he's not the only one on the staff (I can't name names per their request, but one staffer I spoke to quoted one of GoldenBulldog's recent posts word for word when I spoke to them day before yesterday, and before that Roger quoted some of my own posts as well).  Seeing how many of us are championing all things classic, it's not hard to imagine that Drew would try to be the voice of the viewers.  After all, at one point wasn't it said that Drew seemed to act like he was "along for the ride" right there with the contestants, instead of being totally in charge like Bob always was?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Franc on August 28, 2008, 10:16:59 AM
Somewhere along the way, I missed something, Steve:  I've read several times about the new opening that was planned.  I've not read that Drew himself nixed it.  Does Drew seriously have enough authority as "just" the host to nix an opening that was produced and paid for and literally ready to go with just a couple of minutes' notice?  If he had such a problem with the idea, wouldn't he have nixed it at a rehearsal?  Wouldn't he have spoken up sooner?  Would he have really been allowed to throw a taping into a potential tailspin by re-revamping the start of the show just moments away from the start?

Or is it possible that someone is just assigning credit to Drew?

I'm gonna add to this, by talking about the purple wheel. Throughout this thread, people have said that Drew vetoed the purple wheel.

However, since the beginning of the tapings of S37, all I heard about the wheel was "Drew mentionned on the air that the wheel looks horrible and that it will be changed". Did anyone confirmed that Drew actually went to Fremantle and tell them "Your wheel looks like ****, better change it back to black!" (or something along those lines...) ?

Or (no offense to anyone) is it just possible that we collectively bury our heads in the sand and will not admit that maybe, just maybe, Syd or Fremantle realised they made a mistake and cancelled those two changes (wheel and intro)?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rangegame74 on August 28, 2008, 10:38:26 AM
This community has a very short memory. Less than a month ago, we all had our panties in a bunch because someone threw something out there about changes coming. We all bit our nails and started dressing in all black because (insert dramatic voice here) the Price Is Right as we know it is dead. We anxiously waited by our computers for news the day tapings resumed for any news....to find that....it's all the same thing we're familiar with. This is like the Rainbow Connection..."somebody thought of that and someone believed it and look what it's done so far." Let's keep this in mind and wait for official word before we go berserk again.

True, but the point of this thread is that the changes we have all dreaded since Bob left may still be in the future. They may have just started out season 37 the "old" way until they could figure out the changes. Or change may not happen. Only time will tell...
Title: Re: More News
Post by: MissesJanice on August 28, 2008, 11:28:55 AM
Have any of these changes happened NO, So relax and enjoy the show and be thankful that PRICE still exists.


I have news for everyone: THE PRICE IS RIGHT will be canceled someday!!!
Title: Re: More News
Post by: temptation1979ga on August 28, 2008, 11:30:46 AM
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Who knows how much better he might've gotten if that stupid "bleepin-bloopin" O.J. TRIAL hadn't messed up the TV landscape for the syndicated market that year.

I'm no tv expert, but did the OJ trial really affect the New Price is Right that much? I can't remember even one episode being preempted in my area. I understand that some people did like the show, and that's completely fine, but I think it is also fair to say that the overwhelming reason the show went off the air as quickly as it did is that viewers just didn't like it.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: wpghi5 on August 28, 2008, 12:21:35 PM
You know it is quite funny when that audience member began clapping and waving when the video came on thinking it was showtime there.  :oldlol:
Title: Re: More News
Post by: imhomerjay on August 28, 2008, 12:56:12 PM
I'm no tv expert, but did the OJ trial really affect the New Price is Right that much? I can't remember even one episode being preempted in my area. I understand that some people did like the show, and that's completely fine, but I think it is also fair to say that the overwhelming reason the show went off the air as quickly as it did is that viewers just didn't like it.

There was plenty of industry coverage at the time of how, broadly speaking, the OJ trial hurt syndication; newer shows, in particular, bore a bigger brunt because the "habit" factor never kicked in for them, whereas the established shows (your Oprahs, Wheel, Jeopardy, etc.) rebounded much better. 

Much as many folks want to say it failed because it was different, that ignores the one-season-and-done run of the 1985 syndicated version among many other factors.

No one scenario applys universally to all markets, but when you take into account the multiple strikes against it (regardless of format, regardless of host), including some bad time slots in major markets (weekends, overnights or in killer slots vs. syndicated giants), weaker stations in some markets, bad lead ins in some markets, OJ in some markets, and then you factor in Price saturation (some shows just don't work with/need dual daytime/syndie runs), it's entirely plausible a clone of the daytime version with Bob himself might have fared little, if any, better.  There first big hit game show after the Wheel/Jeopardy steamroller started didn't come until Hollywood Squares, and that had the backing of the CBS station group to give it a leg up. 

That viewers didn't go to the show is obvious; the reasons, much as many people may think they know a single cause, are far less clear than only "it was different."   

I make no secret of my admiration for the 1994 version not because I thought it was better than the daytime show,  but because, to me, it was a re-imagining in the same way the 1972 premiere re-thought the previous version.  I did like the set better, but sets don't make or break a show in my taste.  As for Doug Davidson, I felt he was genuinely enthusiastic about players winning--something that by that point seemed, to me, to be not be so genuine with Bob anymore.  That he wasn't in the Barker-Eubanks-Woolery mold was a new twist as well.  He had the misfortune of running concurrent to Bob--a scenario that probably would have made the criticism of Drew harsher as well.   

Title: Re: More News
Post by: Madonna on August 28, 2008, 02:24:26 PM
Quote from: CBSpromoman
My turn on the soapbox:

Not trying to step on anyone's toes and I mean no offense to anyone...but if you seriously think the answer to all three questions is a big "yes," please re-read them and really take the time to THINK about your answer.  Let's say 'Price' was canceled.  Does that really affect your welfare in the grand scheme of things?  Seriously.  I've been a fan of the show since before many of you were even born.  It has always been a big tradition in my life.  But you know, things change and we have to deal with it.

One of the best friends I've ever had is moving to the other side of the country in six days.  I'm sure I'll see him again some day...I may even work up the nerve to fly out there some time.  But he's not going to be here in town so we can catch lunch.  He's not going to be around so we can hang out.  Sure, he'll still be a phone call or an email away, but it won't be the same.  The grief -- yeah, actual grief..who would have thought -- I feel over seeing him and his family move so far away is about a thousand times more intense a feeling than what I felt when Barker signed off for the last time and about a million times more intense a feeling than what I felt about the possibility of a video wall or a purple wheel.

My point in bringing that up is this:  I'm a LF&T.  Always have been.  But folks, 'Price' is a television show: if this show is more important -- really more important -- to you than your family or your friends, or your job, or the rest of your life, then I urge you to stop and rethink things.  Your priorities are out of whack.  And I mean that in the nicest way possible, because even though we always find new things to disagree about, we're all united for the same reason here, and we ought to be able to be a little honest with each other once in a while.

I'll miss 'Price' when it goes away...and I hope that won't be for many more years to come.  But one day it'll happen.  And it's not going to be the day my whole world ends.  I genuinely hope for all of you, those I've gotten to know well over the years and those I've never had an exchange with at all, that it isn't the day yours ends, either.

Now that I think about it, I'd like a turn on the soapbox, too. I was going to blow it off. I then changed my mind and had a far more hostile post ready to go. But, I'll try this instead...

Promoman, and everyone else discussing priorities, perspective and cooler heads are absolutely right here.

A month ago, I would've been worked up beyond all belief. In fact, I was. Then I ended up getting my priorities re-arranged in the most painful way possible. It's a little hard to get worked up, or scream "THE SKY IS FALLING!", or feeling like the world is about to end over a game show after that.

A month ago, I was steamed over Roger's firing, and the rumors (or future plans) for the show. Now? Quite frankly, the only thing I'm upset over is that Roger poured 36 years of his heart and soul into the show, only to be rewarded with a boot to the ass that has "Fremantle North America" written on the sole. Roger deserved better, and I feel for him, definitely.

But purple wheels? New door/turntable patterns? They didn't change the giant price tag to match? 3 Strikes is no longer one of the big three?! A little hard to run around, screaming and waving your hands over that when there is an enormous hole in your heart and void in your life because of a REAL person.

Did Bob's farewell hurt? Yeah. And, of course, I miss seeing him host the show. But I would go through that hurt 1,000,000 times if it meant August 9th, as I know it, never happened. Because, not only is that pain not even 1/1,000,000th as bad as the pain I've lived with for the last two weeks, but Bob is still with us. Still capable of smelling the roses. Still able to pet his dogs. Still a physical part of this world.

Truth be told, for many years, I thought of how fun it would be to sit down and have lunch with Bob, and ask him all sorts of questions about the show and his career. Now? The first question I would ask him is "How have you coped with the pain of losing Dorothy Jo over the last 27 years?", followed by "How do you keep going? Was it TPIR? Is it finding something different everyday? Is it carrying on her spirit with your animal rights work? Or, is it something as dark and morbid as thinking each day brings you closer to dying, and being reunited with her?" I doubt I'd even discuss the show with him if that ever happened, because times like this make you realize a game show is not the end-all, be-all of planet Earth.

The more I have thought about it over the last two weeks, the more I have realized what made my eight trips to LA special wasn't Vipers and Cadillacs and DSW's. It was the people. It was TALKING to Roger. It was having my two notable moments with Bob (the first being stumping him over the meme on my blog about "Bidding on Bob's pants"). It was making a difference (even a small one) in Chuck Dukas' life. It was congratulating people who had their big moment, and thanking a contestant who works with Alzheimer's patients for doing her part to help those poor people. It was hearing the wit and wisdom of Stan Blits, and getting reactions out of Kathy, or Jeff, or even Marty. It was getting laughs out of Rich when I'd tell him he was 22 during his warmups.

Because, ultimately, people should mean more than changing the prize distribution in Punch A Bunch, or making Check Game harder.

<clipped a bunch of inflammatory stuff at the poster's request - I'm leaving the rest in because I really do think it's all good stuff - Army>

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Some things are more important than a television show, folks.  If you can't grasp that, then I'm afraid you're going to be in for a rough, rough life.  (And I'm older than most of you, so you'll just have to trust me on that.)  Sometimes, it's okay to turn the TV off and go live your life.

Preach on, Brother Promoman.

TV can be great, and TV can be fun, but there is more to life than TV - yes, even TPIR. If the biggest worry in your world today is what happened in that meeting, well, I'm sorry to say your priorities are out of whack, and when that wakeup call comes, it's really not going to be pleasant.

There are things in this world more important than changing Barker's Markers.

There are things in this world more important than who might host the show in season 38.

There are things in this world more important than what's going on with Wheel Of Fortune.

And, yes, there are things in this world more important than poor Bill Rafferty being underappreciated for Blockbusters.

Just like how at this moment, I could genuinely care less about Madonna's plastic surgery and baseball players and crummy album. I could care less about football and Steven Jackson's holdout. I could care less about Dark Knight. You know why? Because one day, you wake up and realize, in the immortal words of Dennis DeYoung, that it's "all just a bunch of BS."
Title: Re: More News
Post by: dh027 on August 28, 2008, 03:17:02 PM
OK, I think a little perspective is needed here (and yes, here's my turn at the soapbox).

No, game shows are not as important and family and friends and truly the things that mean the most in life.  However, for a lot of us here, present company included, game shows are a sort of coping mechanism.  When life starts to weigh on me a little bit too heavily, I surround myself with game shows.  Game shows are my comfort food for the soul. 

Is it the end of the world if TPIR ceases to exist tomorrow?  Absolutely not.  Would I take it extremely hard if it did cease to exist?  Absolutely.  Let's face it, I have literally grown up with the show.  I was born in July of 1973.  My first childhood memory is me in front of the TV watching The Price is Right (I kid you not). 

So, yeah, I would take it hard.  I, on the other hand, know it is just a television show, and would get over it eventually.  You can't fault people, especially here, for having strong emotions about the show.  I don't think either side should criticize the other here. 

I believe it is all right to have a healthy love of the show as long as you really know what is important in life.  Family should always come before a tevevision show.  But, after a long and trying day, it is good and healthy to have an outlet.  Golden-road.net is my outlet.  Thank you Marc and John for everything you do.

(gets off soapbox)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Axl on August 28, 2008, 03:36:15 PM
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Names changed to protect the innocent - CGJ

So someone finally names a legitimate source for something, giving out information that is not-at-all a secret to anyone who's been to a recent taping, and his name suddenly has to be redacted?  If this is the nature of all information that's been posted lately from "anonymous" sources whose names must be protected at all costs, I'm even more skeptical than more.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 28, 2008, 03:42:24 PM
If everyone else gets their turn on the soapbox, here's my turn:

Madonna, sorry to hear about your loss, but I don't appreciate being singled out in your tirade.  There's a multitude of things I want to go off about, but I'll just focus on one:

It seems like lately all I'm seeing are negative posts, from people either airing their dirty laundry, or else cheaply saying "Get a life."  Statements being made by people are being taken out of their original context, and tempers seem to be running hot.  It's almost like we have our own never-ending Presidential campaign going on here, with constant bickering and mudslinging.

Whatever happened to this being a forum dedicated to the discussion and exploration of our favorite show, TPiR?  Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that what's brought us all together in the first place?  I know I can't be alone in feeling this way, so may I simply say the following perfectly candidly:

Cut the crap, folks, it's turning the atmosphere around here into something about as far from "fun" as you can get.  Let's all stop flaming each other, stop bickering about things that don't matter, and return to the topic at hand.  If you must air something, reserve it for OILF so it doesn't interfere with on-topic discussion.  Let the flood of "Get a life" posts cease and decist; we all love TPiR, and some of us obsess over the minutae more than others.  In the same way as a lack of experience shouldn't discount good judgement, a lack of knowledge about specifics shouldn't be cause not to show someone proper respect.

Was I any less of an LFAT when I didn't know how Squeeze Play was operated?  Was I any less of an LFAT before I knew the REAL name for Cue #30?  Was I any less of an LFAT before I realized how they got that cool ring to work in Magic #?

Of course not.  Nor was I any more of an LFAT when I perfected my virtual Studio 33 replica, or when I got on a first-name basis with the likes of Kirk Smith or Bente Christenson.

The only thing AFAIC that makes me an LFAT is that I can follow along with the show and I know how to play each game.  So what if I know the ins and outs to all the "what if" situations to each game--why?  Because I read it here, in the pages of our many discussions.  So what if I know the stats for how often each game has been played, or when a show might air again--it's because of Steve Gavazzi and Joe Capitano that I know that.  So what if I know what the back of Lucky $even looks like, or that the reverse side of each of the Big Doors is numbered in sequence to make it easier to set them up.

In short, the LFATs aren't the ones who have the answers to those questions, it's the people who HAVE those questions, and who ask them.  I give major kudos to Gavazzi for his fantastic work on the FAQ, as well as to those who maintain the site itself, without which we wouldn't know half of what we know.  But in the end, like CBS' viewers make their existence possible, I give credit to all the LFATs who come here wanting to expand their knowledge and sound off with their peers.

Now please, folks, treat the newcomers and those asking questions the way you were treated when you were still that newbie with 5, 50, or even 500 posts--everyone's got the right to ask questions.

It's what makes life good.

I'm getting off the soapbox now.  Thanks for your time.

So someone finally names a legitimate source for something, giving out information that is not-at-all a secret to anyone who's been to a recent taping, and his name suddenly has to be redacted?  If this is the nature of all information that's been posted lately from "anonymous" sources whose names must be protected at all costs, I'm even more skeptical than more.

Now, to get this train back on track.  Actually, John's decision to remove the names makes good sense if the source is a contestant, who is either friends with or otherwise associated with someone working on the show.  Such things like that could very very easily get people in trouble at the show, especially right now.  Think about all the times you read in the paper:  "The official spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to release the information."  This is one of those times. 
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Todd on August 28, 2008, 03:43:43 PM
So someone finally names a legitimate source for something, giving out information that is not-at-all a secret to anyone who's been to a recent taping, and his name suddenly has to be redacted?  If this is the nature of all information that's been posted lately from "anonymous" sources whose names must be protected at all costs, I'm even more skeptical than more.

Why, because they're not allowed to name their sources? Tell me, when have you ever heard a person say "My sources named So-and-So and So-and-So have informed me that..."? The fact of he matter is, you almost never hear anyone name their sources, to protect them.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: PriceFanArmadillo on August 28, 2008, 03:46:16 PM
Not to be outdone, after taking the time and setting aside my fears to write an open, meaningful post about what has been going on (and to thank the few people who had kind words for me in June), which of course got no replies because it's nowhere near as important as Gwen Stefani's kid or changing Millionaire, I get IM'd within 24 hours of making that post. Another user, upset over 3 Strikes' changes and the possibility of it being retired.

Boy, I really feel like a jerk now.  I saw that post, and was really moved by it.  I was honestly going to reply, but I couldn't think of anything that was really worthy, so I kind of put it aside because I was at work and had other things to do.  I had every intention of coming back to it, but when no one replied, it fell off the page and completely slipped my mind.  I'm really sorry, and now I feel like a total a** about the whole thing.

I hear everything you're saying, and wholeheartedly agree with most of it, and I'd really like to make a longer reply...but I'm at work right now, as well, and can't spare the time to put down everything I want.  Remind me to come back to this tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Trivia Trap on August 28, 2008, 03:48:49 PM
You're not,

I liked him too, he reminded me of Ray Combs at times.  I just attributed and of his screw-ups to the fact that he was new. 

Who knows how much better he might've gotten if that stupid "bleepin-bloopin" O.J. TRIAL hadn't messed up the TV landscape for the syndicated market that year.

I really liked Davidson too. It gave a fresh appearance to TPiR. I would not be against a entire TPiR 94 Boxset - but I know better than to expect it at all.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Axl on August 28, 2008, 03:51:13 PM
Tell me, when have you ever heard a person say "My sources named So-and-So and So-and-So have informed me that..."?

Well, they don't usually use the term "my sources" under that circumstance, but yeah, every time someone has ever said "Roger told me..." or "Stan mentioned at a book signing..." they are naming their source.

My question is, why does a TPiR "civilian," if you will, getting information by attending a taping deserve protection, especially when the original poster (who called him "my friend") felt he was not in need of such protection in the first place?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 28, 2008, 04:00:01 PM
I'll field this one.  And the answer may surprise you.

As many of you know, I work at an Army base in North Carolina.  The environment herre is actually pretty similar to what's going on at TPiR right now--a transition phase, a lot of people on edge due to concerns about their jobs.  I've seen the following happen:

A staff meeting takes place, where new details to be kept within a small circle but that pertain to a much larger circle are disclosed.  One of the attendees of the meeting discloses those details to someone not authorized to know.  That person then tells someone else, who repeats the information to the wrong person in the higher ranks.  And because we've all played the Telephone Game, we all know that each time information is relayed by a person, it's changed slightly.  So what the higher-ranking person hears might be different than what was said at the initial meeting--meaning one of two things happens:

1.  Either it's different enough that he gets upset and takes that to his superiors, and trouble comes down the pipe because it turns into a "he said, she said" game, and the person who leaked the info gets in trouble.
2.  The ranking official gets really upset, and he passes his displeasure down to this subordinates, who themselves pass it to the leaker, who gets in trouble for violating confidentiality.  That's something that's taken very seriously, and when breached, it's a huge problem.

So, to apply this to TPiR:

Something gets decided (possibly tentatively) about Season 37.  That information is requested to be kept inside a small circle of people.  But then one of those people then mentions it to a friend, who then names their source in a public forum like us.  Then we take that tentative decision as absolute fact, creating a misconception about the show, which could cause problems down the line.  The production company then changes their mind about something--and the information leaked is suddenly false.  But it's still out in public hands, and now the production company gets wind that their tentative decision was revealed prematurely, violating confidentiality rules.  Because they take confidentiality so seriously, they get mad, and the person who leaked the information gets in big trouble, possibly fired.  Meanwhile, intra-office trust is shattered, and they beef up security to prevent further information from leaking out.

And what if one of the people was an actual contestant on the show?  They risk forfeiture of their prizes I'm pretty sure, and I don't think any of us wants to see THAT happen.

By removing the name, John's taking action to make sure none of that happens.  Sure, they'll get suspicious, but without a target nothing's actionable, and therefore our insider is shielded and can continue to clandestinely send us nuggets of information as they come.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Madonna on August 28, 2008, 04:56:47 PM
My apologies. I'm grieving, I'm miserable, I haven't had any alcohol in six days, and I'm barely eating. All it takes is the right song or the right words or the right picture to trigger a 2-3 hour crying fit.

I guess I needed to blow off steam.

I'd remove my post myself, but can't. The next moderator who reads it, please feel free to do so.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 28, 2008, 05:06:49 PM
personally i think u guys r now blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.  So is a staff meeting.  We don't know the specifics about it, so i think that at this point in time we should just calm down.  bottom line, it's a meeting between drew syd, fingers, etc. to discuss changes on the show. we should wait until we get confirmation of these changes (if any).  Rest assured, at least tpir will begin season 37.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: wrikent3500 on August 28, 2008, 05:24:23 PM
Something tells me that Syd Vinnage maybe walking the plank on this one...
It`s likely that CBS and Fremantlemedia have seen what the whole Dobokowitz situation has tuned out to be a fiasco and guess who might be on the hook for it...just a hunch.
Maybe someone at Fremantlemedia finally got around to lookng on youtube and came across doug davidson...
Nuff said ppl ;)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: mrbrown2195 on August 28, 2008, 05:41:12 PM
bottom line, it's a meeting between drew syd, fingers, etc. to discuss changes on the show.

Quote
All the important parties (except the Producer?) are meeting this Friday to discuss the options.
This leads me to believe Fingers isn't being included, and if previous posts by the folks "in the know" on this site are accurate, Drew will not be there either.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 28, 2008, 06:03:18 PM
then that's a good sign, is it not?  this could mean that the meeting doesn't concern drew's job or finger's job.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SteveGavazzi on August 28, 2008, 06:04:27 PM
Somewhere along the way, I missed something, Steve:  I've read several times about the new opening that was planned.  I've not read that Drew himself nixed it.  Does Drew seriously have enough authority as "just" the host to nix an opening that was produced and paid for and literally ready to go with just a couple of minutes' notice?

Hm...it's possible I misread something John posted.  Now that you mention it, I might be confusing this with the wheel.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The_Great_Butler on August 28, 2008, 06:40:48 PM
Everything's been said, so I only have this to say:

Come Friday, should we learn that every single change we feared is coming true (I'm only saying this half metaphorically) only to have any kind of criticism at all met with "get a life," at that point I'm just giving up.

It seems more and more to me that this place is no longer "discussion of Price is Right" but instead "praise and everything else that isn't criticism of Price is Right." Anyone who steps out of line is slammed down.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 28, 2008, 06:43:43 PM
Quote
It seems more and more to me that this place is no longer "discussion of Price is Right" but instead "praise and everything else that isn't criticism of Price is Right." Anyone who steps out of line is slammed down.

i agree w/ u on that 100%.  i have been slammed down so many times w/ this whole thing.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: mrbrown2195 on August 28, 2008, 07:37:27 PM
then that's a good sign, is it not?  this could mean that the meeting doesn't concern drew's job or finger's job.

They didn't bring Roger to the meeting where they decided to fire him, friend.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: ClockGameJohn on August 28, 2008, 08:46:42 PM
So someone finally names a legitimate source for something, giving out information that is not-at-all a secret to anyone who's been to a recent taping, and his name suddenly has to be redacted?  If this is the nature of all information that's been posted lately from "anonymous" sources whose names must be protected at all costs, I'm even more skeptical than more.

I thought I clearly explained that the source was confusing two situations as one.  Regardless of who it was, they weren't confirming anything you asked.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TPIRfan222 on August 28, 2008, 08:54:25 PM
I just want conformation as to wether or not this meeting is actually happening.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 28, 2008, 09:02:49 PM
well now that i think about it, it would make sense for them not to be invited. but still we should stop panicking.  im sure if it was that major of a change we would've heard it on Entertainment Tonight or somethin'.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SteveGavazzi on August 28, 2008, 09:07:27 PM
well now that i think about it, it would make sense for them not to be invited. but still we should stop panicking.  im sure if it was that major of a change we would've heard it on Entertainment Tonight or somethin'.

Unless word of it hasn't gotten out yet.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TopDot on August 28, 2008, 09:38:27 PM
Hello i heard that they want to replace Drew Carey with a Fresh Young Host

Sources are saying that they been under some heavy negotiations with Tim Vincent To Replace Drew Carey


I'll come back with more updates
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 28, 2008, 09:45:37 PM
what now? who r these sources? r they websites? what r they?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: jimlange on August 28, 2008, 09:49:27 PM
Okay I think this has just gotten completely out of hand.  We can, right now, not worry about Drew being replaced, because they're in the middle of the season.  They are not going to rock the boat now.  If news like that was going around, some gossip or news site would have been all over that by now.  TopDot, I can already tell, you better be ready to name, to an extent, some sources for that, or you're not gonna remain around here long.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The_Great_Butler on August 28, 2008, 09:54:25 PM
Hello i heard that they want to replace Drew Carey with a Fresh Young Host

Sources are saying that they been under some heavy negotiations with Tim Vincent To Replace Drew Carey


I'll come back with more updates

This strikes me as someone from one of the other forums thinking this thread would be funny to troll.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 28, 2008, 09:57:55 PM
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Sources are saying that they been under some heavy negotiations with Tim Vincent To Replace Drew Carey

In case anyone doesn't know who Tim Vincent is ('cause I don't), here is a little something about him that I found on Wikipedia:

"Tim Vincent (born Timothy Russell Walker, 4 November 1972), is a Welsh actor and television presenter who is most famous for being a presenter on the popular children's programme Blue Peter between 1993 and 1997. His career has since broadened as a presenter and has presented several Miss World contests and is now based in the United States where he has presented some mainstream shows such as Access Hollywood and Phenomenon (TV series)."
Title: Re: More News
Post by: PIR85 on August 28, 2008, 10:22:53 PM
Tim was also a fill-in for Meredith Viera on WWTBAM for a week, and a bad one at that.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: goldroadfanatic on August 28, 2008, 10:23:35 PM
I also heard that Tim Vincent hosted the pilot for the GSN version of Chain Reaction.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SteveGavazzi on August 28, 2008, 10:33:45 PM
Tim was also a fill-in for Meredith Viera on WWTBAM for a week, and a bad one at that.

Really?  I remember him being pretty decent.

(This is not to say that I want him -- or anyone else -- replacing Drew.)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: mrbrown2195 on August 28, 2008, 10:35:44 PM
Hello i heard that they want to replace Drew Carey with a Fresh Young Host

Sources are saying that they been under some heavy negotiations with Tim Vincent To Replace Drew Carey


I'll come back with more updates

You have one post on this website, it being in this rumor thread; you do not have an established record of accuracy, like nanny who correctly reported Mike Richards became co-executive producer of the show before it was publicly announced. While he/she has only had two posts, at least we have some reason to believe them.

We have no reason to believe you, especially with your really bad grammar and capitalization.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 29, 2008, 07:38:52 AM
And it really doesn't make sense...Drew is the "fresh young host" compared to Barker, anyway.

"Fresh young host" to Drew is like Ryan Seacrest or something like that.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Franc on August 29, 2008, 07:48:05 AM
"Fresh young host" to Drew is like Ryan Seacrest or something like that.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (lol)
Title: Re: More News
Post by: MissesJanice on August 29, 2008, 10:32:42 AM
Hello i heard that they want to replace Drew Carey with a Fresh Young Host

Sources are saying that they been under some heavy negotiations with Tim Vincent To Replace Drew Carey


I'll come back with more updates

No one has confirmed any of this. And what is a Tim Vincent?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 29, 2008, 10:41:03 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (lol)
I understand.  I seriously doubt Ryan would take the gig, anyway.  He's already on AI, has a couple of radio gigs, I think he does stuff for E!...

..oh, and it's now called "Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve with Ryan Seacrest".  Yeah, he doesn't need "Host of Price is Right" on his resume.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: PriceFanArmadillo on August 29, 2008, 11:13:16 AM
And what is a Tim Vincent?

I think it's the new currency of Zimbabwe.  One Vin-Cent = $375,250,000,000.05 in the old currency.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Hag on August 29, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
I will say this about Tim Vincent, after watching him on Millionaire, I think he'd make a good James Bond.  I say that on the basis of looks only, I don't know if he's acted in any movies.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: bingocaller1 on August 29, 2008, 02:58:10 PM
I think we all need to day a BIG prayer of Drew today. Let's hope that we don't lose Drew too. Two hosts in one year not a good sign.
What time is this "meeting" today?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Joe_Capitano on August 29, 2008, 04:09:39 PM
No, we don't need prayer. What is getting into some of you? There's this meeting. Drew evidently will be there. Big Whoop.

Nowhere else except on this website from a few of you is anyone speculating about Drew's future with Price. I'd think we'd be seeing heavy duty gossip going on in the mainstream if he were on the chopping block. Three is none, so quit worrying.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TheKid965 on August 29, 2008, 08:05:56 PM
Nowhere else except on this website from a few of you is anyone speculating about Drew's future with Price. I'd think we'd be seeing heavy duty gossip going on in the mainstream if he were on the chopping block. Three is none, so quit worrying.

New Math?  ;^)

I concur.  If something like that were going down surely we'd have heard something about it by now.  In this case, no news has to be considered good news.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The_Great_Butler on August 29, 2008, 08:17:50 PM
New Math?  ;^)

I concur.  If something like that were going down surely we'd have heard something about it by now.  In this case, no news has to be considered good news.

Not necessarily. Wasn't Bob announcing his retirement a surprise?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob79 on August 29, 2008, 08:23:28 PM
Not necessarily. Wasn't Bob announcing his retirement a surprise?

I wouldn't think so. With Bob's age, everyone had to have been anticipating his retirement sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: SteveGavazzi on August 29, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
I wouldn't think so. With Bob's age, everyone had to have been anticipating his retirement sooner rather than later.

Not the point.  The announcement itself came out of nowhere.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 29, 2008, 08:30:21 PM
There's a significant difference of opinion about whether Bob was truly ready to retire.  After all, despite Les Moonves' words to the contrary, wasn't there speculation of yet another TPiR lawsuit on the way, and that as a result CBS was "encouraging" Bob to just retire?

Some people say Bob had become stale and less than spry in his old age, to which there's some degree of truth.  But I think he could've gone at least one more year.  

Then there's Bob's statement that he'd rather retire too soon than too late, and then there's the school of thought that doing it that way always leaves people open to seeing you more (in the same way that a cliffhanger ending always brings audiences back).

Either way, his announcement DID seem to come out of nowhere, mid-season.  There had been talk of such a thing for several seasons IIRC but there was no indication that things had taken on a more serious air come Season 35.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The_Great_Butler on August 29, 2008, 08:49:15 PM
My points exactly.

What I'm saying is while we don't have evidence to say for sure Drew Carey is or has been fired, and we won't likely know until tomorrow, we don't have any evidence to say he's safe either. As the sudden way Bob's retirement was announced shows, it is wholly possible for huge news to be made with absolutely no let-on.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 29, 2008, 08:52:13 PM
...it is wholly possible for huge news to be made with absolutely no let-on.

I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here, but...

If you accept that Bob's retirement was voluntary, that's different than if he was "urged" to retire.  That kind of change comes from the host himself, and as we've said, that was a change that everyone had had in the back of their minds for a while, and according to the staff had been quietly prepping for for several years.

Then again they DID yank TNPiR'94 midseason, so who knows what might happen.  Mid-season changes are rare though, and they're rare for a reason--they're bad for business and they run the risk of confusing viewers, which is the quickest way to lose them.

Well...second quickest.  Right after ticking them off.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 29, 2008, 09:46:40 PM
ok so lets just say drew IS fired mid season.  would it be effective immediately (i.e. finish out this week tapings and then ur done) or would he finish the season and then leave?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The_Great_Butler on August 29, 2008, 09:47:30 PM
ok so lets just say drew IS fired mid season.  would it be effective immediately (i.e. finish out this week tapings and then ur done) or would he finish the season and then leave?

That would depend on the terms of the contract release he negotiates.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 29, 2008, 09:51:22 PM
ok then so lets say they negotiate that he is to leave mid season. who r they gonna find in such short notice to replace him?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: tnpir4000 on August 29, 2008, 09:53:24 PM
ok then so lets say they negotiate that he is to leave mid season. who r they gonna find in such short notice to replace him?

Presumably in that circumstance one of two things would happen:

1.  They'd show reruns for the remainder of the season.
2.  They'd borrow someone from elsewhere in Studio 33, more than likely (much as it pains me to say this) Davidson from across the hall since he already has experience with some of the games courtesy of TNPiR'94.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Joe_Capitano on August 29, 2008, 10:10:43 PM
New Math?  ;^)

That was so unneccesary.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: The_Great_Butler on August 29, 2008, 10:11:27 PM
ok then so lets say they negotiate that he is to leave mid season. who r they gonna find in such short notice to replace him?

Either Todd Newton, with whom they can use a limited rotation of games he knows, or they can just wing it with John O'Hurley.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: jaydlewis on August 29, 2008, 10:28:31 PM
That was so unneccesary.

Was it? =^D
Title: Re: More News
Post by: imhomerjay on August 29, 2008, 10:53:25 PM
Then again they DID yank TNPiR'94 midseason, so who knows what might happen.  Mid-season changes are rare though, and they're rare for a reason--they're bad for business and they run the risk of confusing viewers, which is the quickest way to lose them.

Well...second quickest.  Right after ticking them off.

Syndication has such a different udnerlying sctucture that you can't draw comparisons between what one syndication company did based on their business model and what could--in these rather wildly speculative scenarios--happen to the show now. 

It is true mid-season big changes are less common, though there can be cases where the start of a new year provides a logical cover for them (let me be clear, I don't believe some radical change is happening in January, just pointing out how such things can happen).    To an average viewer--and that's who matters, not us--it's not likely that the reception to a major change is going to be impacted by whether it happens in September, January or the Ides of March.  No one is going to be saying, gee, if they'd just done that back in September (or waited until next September), I'd have been cool with change X, but they did it in February so now I'm mad as heck and not going to watch ever again." 

Title: Re: More News
Post by: djryan on August 29, 2008, 11:18:21 PM
I'd think we'd be seeing heavy duty gossip going on in the mainstream if he were on the chopping block. Three is none, so quit worrying.

That don't mean anything.  Besides, I don't think the entertainment media would 'gossip' about someone's career ending like that...
Title: Re: More News
Post by: sideshowPA on August 29, 2008, 11:19:42 PM
ok then so lets say they negotiate that he is to leave mid season. who r they gonna find in such short notice to replace him?

I am not saying that I believe much of the banter going on here.  But how do you think Drew would react in the press if he were to be removed?  My feeling if that he would not go too quietly, and that this residual effect would be too much for these new powers to handle.  Simply put, I think there is little chance of Drew going anywhere.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Casey on August 29, 2008, 11:26:05 PM
That don't mean anything.  Besides, I don't think the entertainment media would 'gossip' about someone's career ending like that...
You're right.  The entertainment media never speculates on bad things happening to celebrities, or turmoil on hit shows...
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TheKid965 on August 29, 2008, 11:47:48 PM
Besides, I don't think the entertainment media would 'gossip' about someone's career ending like that...

Please tell me you're joking when you say this. 
Title: Re: More News
Post by: TheKid965 on August 29, 2008, 11:48:49 PM
That was so unneccesary.

Perhaps.  No offense intended; I just couldn't resist.

No hard feelings, I hope?
Title: Re: More News
Post by: pacdude on August 30, 2008, 02:37:03 PM
Please tell me you're joking when you say this. 

I've got a couple AA Batteries for your sarcasm detector.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Joe_Capitano on August 30, 2008, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: djryan
Besides, I don't think the entertainment media would 'gossip' about someone's career ending like that...
The National Enquirer, like it or not, is part of the entertainment media, seeing as you can pick up their product at checkstands almost everywhere. And they jump on almost anything before the mainstream does.


Was it? =^D
If you're going to laugh at people when they don't wish to be laughed at, go to the corner and take a timeout. I don't need that.
(and I notice he apologized, so this discussion ends here).
Title: Re: More News
Post by: PIR85 on August 30, 2008, 04:38:26 PM
I seriously cannot believe how out of proportion some people make things.   :roll:
Title: Re: More News
Post by: rob01234 on August 30, 2008, 07:53:45 PM
tell me about it.
Title: Re: More News
Post by: jaydlewis on August 30, 2008, 08:06:18 PM
If you're going to laugh at people when they don't wish to be laughed at, go to the corner and take a timeout. I don't need that.
(and I notice he apologized, so this discussion ends here).

8-) Who made you arbiter of when discussions end? %-D Whats the view like from your ivory tower? :-P
Title: Re: More News
Post by: MrPlinko on August 30, 2008, 08:24:38 PM
This thread has become so hard to follow, I don't know who to believe or what's what.

Joe
Title: Re: More News
Post by: jimlange on August 30, 2008, 08:42:54 PM
Okay let's everybody calm down.  This has gotten way out of hand.  All we know is there was(by now) a meeting.  We don't know what took place.  We know for now Drew isn't being replaced or fired.  They are NOT going to can him mid season find someone else.  That is the WORST thing that could ever happen to a show.  I say we  just lock this thread up until we know for certain what exactly is going on and then speculate and comment from there.

jimlange
Title: Re: More News
Post by: Forrest20 on August 30, 2008, 10:01:05 PM
Agreed jimlange, this thread has become needless bickering and nitpicking.  Everyone needs to take a step back and take a deep breath.

LOCKED.