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Title: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Joe_Capitano on October 17, 2008, 02:27:28 PM

Production #4495K - Taped Aug. 20, 2008 Drew: stage entrance First Four lineup: left to right Handoff: Rachel Models of the Day: Lanisha Cole, Rachel Reynolds and Brandi Sherwood Wearing: Stop Staring 1   Golden West Billiards Table (B&L) TIMOTHY 1400 DANIELLE 1595 DAVID *2010 TYRONIA 3000 ($2800) David from Orange County, CA plays LUCKY SEVEN for a Dodge Charger (Std., AT, Prot, Stability, Mats, BlkHtr)(R) Picks: 5 6 0 Price:   $ 2 4 9 3 5 Bucks: 7 6 3 0 LOSS 2   Broyhill Cadence Apothecary Chest (R) +Timothy 400 +Danielle 751 SAMUEL 750 +Tyronia *500 ($599) Tyronia plays BALANCE GAME '06 for an Almost Heaven Barrel Sauna (B&L) [ 245 ][2000][4000]  [3000]  [$5245] LOSS 3   Ladies' Golf Equipment (B) +Timothy 850 +Danielle *1095 Samuel 502 PATRICIA 501 ($1240) Danielle from Massachusetts plays STEP UP (4) Aquabot Turbo T Jet Pool Cleaner 799 (1) Stainless Gas Grill 2249 +500   BAILOUT (2) Largo Hearthstone Dining Group 1495 (3) Home Gym 1000 SHOWDOWN #1 $ 599 Tyronia 75 stay .75 2,800 David 95 stay .95 Through to Showcase Round 4,147 Danielle 60 +100 OV (Puny 2nd Spin) 4   KitchenCraft 16 pc Waterless Cookware Set (L) +Timothy 1 JAMES *1695 Samuel 675 Patricia 1200 ($2295) James plays TEN CHANCES Cereal Dispnsr. Peavey Briarwood Acoustic/Electric Guitar (R) Pontiac Vibe (Std., AC, AT, Stereo, Cargo, BlkHtr)(B) 504 WIN 4809 WHA? WIN! 79108 WIN!! 40 :03 890 980 490 480 489 940 1:31 18970 18790 TIME 17980 3:03 5   Home Theater System (R) +Timothy *1 ALEJANDRO 2495 Samuel 1800 Patricia 3000 ($650) Timothy plays MAGIC # Largo Harvest Wine Bar (L) $1499 Timothy's MAGIC #   914   LOSS His/Hers Snowboard Equipment (B) $2494 6   carolinachair.com O'hara Swivel Rocker (B) TERI 500 Alejandro 550 Samuel 580 Patricia *650 ($925) Patricia from Northridge, CA plays DOUBLE PRICES for an American 18 Day Sailer (L&R)  $12,989  PICK ($10,635) LOSS $10,635 SHOWDOWN #2 $ 650 Timothy 70 stay .70 Through to Showcase Round 925 Patricia 65 + 40 OV 21,255 James 25 + 85 OV ROBAIR MACKEY SEMI-MEMORIAL STAG SHOWCASE ROUND David has the honor. SC1-Timothy Ashley Reed Living Room Group Carpet One Carpeting Runco 42" Plasman HDTV (B) 2 Kawasaki Ninja 650R Motorcyles (R) BID $17,000 PRICE 20,361 DIFF –3,361 TOTAL $21,011 SC2-David (Apple) Desktop Computer Computer Desk/Hutch (L) Princess 7d Alaskan Cruise (via Seattle)(B) Dodge Caravan SE (Std., AT, V6, Bench)(L) BID $25,000 PRICE 30,801 DIFF –5,801 Today's Pricing Games: 1 for 6 (with 1 Bailout) Total Winnings: $50,737 THIS IS THE ONLY OFFICIAL GOLDEN-ROAD.net SHOW RECAP. REPRODUCTION PROHIBITED WITHOUT AUTHOR PERMISSION.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Nick on October 17, 2008, 02:49:42 PM

Why did Drew have his tie flipped over his shoulder after the first One Bid item was presented?  Drew may be a comedian and find nearly every ridiculous thing funny, but is it really too much to expect professional conduct from him?

It's been a long time since I've seen a contestant guess zero in Lucky $even, unless I missed an occurrence last season.

I believe I understand now why Bob never explained Step Up as "least expensive to most expensive" pricing game.  With Drew explaining it that way, it made the bailout seem like failure; but when Bob didn't outright say to follow that route, a bailout made it look more like the contestant had accomplished something.  Anybody understand what I'm getting at here?

James was the kind of contestant I've really been needing to see for quite a while now.  He was not showy, loud, or discombobulated.  He was excited yet reserved and paid attention to what was happening, which played out especially well for having played Ten Chances.  James' playing of Ten Chances was one of the best I can recall seeing in quite some time.  Aside from his one flub of a $489 guess on the guitar, he played the game brilliantly, tying it up fantastically with a win on the final chance.  Man, I really wish Bob had been hosting this playing.  Drew had so much opportunity to add to the excitement but just wasn't saying anything constructive.  I was quite disappointed when James didn't make it to the Showcase.

Speaking of Ten Chances, one of those nonconstructive pieces he said was starting the game off by ragging on how long it can take to play.  Does that put Ten Chances in danger of format tinkering now too?  I sincerely hope not.  We wouldn't have been able to have as great of a playing as we did today if the game was anything but how it is.

Still speaking of Ten Chances, I really like my Sam with my Ten Chances.  An '03 cue followed by an even worse new cue for the car doesn't pass for it.

Am I the only one who thinks it sounds like Rich is saying, "come on now" quite often when he is calling contestants?  It would be nice to hear a bit more articulation on down.

Why don't they just have Drew read the Showcase scripts?  It's so evident that it's his writing, and these poorly-written scripts sound even worse coming from Rich's mouth.  Besides, Drew finds the need to repeat the parts of his writing that he finds funny afterwords anyway, so why not?  (I emphasise that I am being entirely sarcastic here.  The real solution is to let Stan and Adam start writing the Showcases again.)

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Briguy on October 17, 2008, 03:05:48 PM

Do we have any definitive, hard proof that Drew Carey is writing the Showcase scripts?

Brian

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Nick on October 17, 2008, 03:21:37 PM

Yes. (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=8485.msg120665#msg120665)

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: JohnHolder on October 17, 2008, 03:23:04 PM

Quote from: Nick on October 17, 2008, 02:49:42 PM

It's been a long time since I've seen a contestant guess zero in Lucky $even, unless I missed an occurrence last season.

I think it's been even longer since there actually WAS a zero in Lucky $even.

John

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Alfonzo on October 17, 2008, 03:31:30 PM

Yow! No small prize OR grocery game today?! That has to be a first! Hope it doesn't happen TOO often!

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Briguy on October 17, 2008, 03:33:00 PM

Nick:

OK, this may sound like a dumb question, but where can I find the proof (e.g., a news story, closing credits, etc.)  that Drew indeed is writing the showcase scripts? I don't want this to be hearsay.

Thanks!

Brian

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Todd on October 17, 2008, 03:34:09 PM

Quote from: Nick on October 17, 2008, 03:21:37 PM

Yes. (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=8485.msg120665#msg120665)

There is your answer Briguy.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Briguy on October 17, 2008, 03:50:25 PM

So is this a link to a moderator who says so, or just someone's hearsay?

Look, if he's writing the showcases and they're being panned critically, fine. But is there any hard evidence that he is doing it, not just a "because I said so" thing?

Brian

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: goldroadfanatic on October 17, 2008, 03:50:56 PM

Today is probably the first time since April 26, 2002 in which a Lucky $even contestant guessed a zero.  Without Roger writing the scripts, I would not be surprised one bit if we do actually see a zero there for the first time in over 20 years.  Although, the show would run the risk of "salvaging" a loss by saying that 7 was three away from zero instead of 7, for example.

I have to check out the show on Innertube later, but in Step Up, did Drew say that if Danielle picked a prize that was not more expensive than the grill, she would lose everything?  I know one of many people's quirks about that game is that the host doesn't make it clear that if the order from least to most expensive is broken, the contestant loses all cash and prizes won up to that point.  That lack of information may result in a contestant losing because of the host's misexplanation and the contestant could go to S&P, and the game ends up like $uper $aver.

James played Ten Chances beautifully, the only questionable guesses were $490, $480, and $489.  After he got out of that rut, he played very well and it made for an exciting moment that the car was won on the last chance.

A note about chance #10, I think James was trying to write $18,790 again, but it looked like he used the one three times because the marker apparently was running out of ink.

I am still wondering when we are going to see Plinko again.  No Plinko for 3 weeks, we probably haven't seen that happen in many years or possibly ever.

The first showcase would have worked a lot better if the fact that Rich forgot one more prize wasn't written into the copy.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Todd on October 17, 2008, 03:53:51 PM

Quote from: Briguy on October 17, 2008, 03:50:25 PM

Look, if he's writing the showcases and they're being panned critically, fine. But is there any hard evidence that he is doing it, not just a "because I said so" thing?

John is enough evidence for me.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on October 17, 2008, 04:02:31 PM

Quote from: goldroadfanatic on October 17, 2008, 03:50:56 PM

The first showcase would have worked a lot better if the fact that Rich forgot one more prize wasn't written into the copy.

Umm.. that was the whole freakin' point. Otherwise, it would've been SPLENDIDO... The contestants, after the 3rd item of the showcase was shown, were definitely thinking in their heads, "This is nothing but furniture - what a crappy showcase." I thought the "Ooops! I forgot this..." was a nice way to surprise the contestants, while livening up Splendido at the same time.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: goldroadfanatic on October 17, 2008, 04:03:18 PM

Well, you have a point there, mrbrown.  I guess I'm just too used to Splendido! just being Splendido!.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Flerbert419 on October 17, 2008, 04:24:28 PM

It was nice to see Step Up today, a game far too undervalued IMO.

I thought Drew did well with the explanation, because it can be tough to understand.

I really wanted James to win in 10C today.  He seemed very likeable and Drew had one of his best hosting moments this season during the last button press.  

At that time, it was about James and his wife overjoyed about winning the new car.  No corny showcase jokes or outrageous stuff, just pure happiness on the screen.

Somehow, I didn't have any faith in Patricia to win her pricing game.  Turned out I was right.

Showcases were the same that we were used to over the past two weeks: no theme, and a poor sense of connection between prizes.

And, Rich's new favorite word: Baby.

Quote from: goldroadfanatic on October 17, 2008, 03:50:56 PM

I have to check out the show on Innertube later, but in Step Up, did Drew say that if Danielle picked a prize that was not more expensive than the grill, she would lose everything?

Yes.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: howierules86 on October 17, 2008, 04:40:28 PM

Quote from: Alfonzo on October 17, 2008, 03:31:30 PM

Yow! No small prize OR grocery game today?! That has to be a first! Hope it doesn't happen TOO often!

I was hoping I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

Also, it seems that this season is Rachel Reynolds' in terms of most model appearances. At least Brandi's back for another batch of episodes. BTW, is Phire Dawson going to be returning this season?

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: goldroadfanatic on October 17, 2008, 05:03:25 PM

Quote from: Flerbert419 on October 17, 2008, 04:24:28 PM

Yes.

That could very well be the first time in the history of Step Up in which the host said implicitly that when the contestant breaks the order, all cash and prizes won up to that point are lost.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: rob79 on October 17, 2008, 05:22:53 PM

Where in the world was the GP or SP game today?!?!? That just ain't right having neither a GP or a SP. Was this still one of the Dob's lineups?

Though I will admit that seeing Magic # was better than seeing Pick-a-Pair (which I honestly thought was gonna show today), but then I would have loved seeing Pappy replace Double Prices.  :-P

I wonder what David was thinking when he said "0" for the 4th number of the car in L7. As soon as he said that, I thought "put a fork in him, he's done."

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on October 17, 2008, 06:51:51 PM

Quote from: Flerbert419 on October 17, 2008, 04:24:28 PM

Showcases were the same that we were used to over the past two weeks: no theme, and a poor sense of connection between prizes.

The first showcase was Splendido! + motorcycle. Splendido! never had a theme other than being furniture & the Splendido! song. We've been doing this for 20+ years.

Adding a motorcycle as a complete and total surprise to the contestant? It livened up what would normally be a boring, "I want to pass" showcase (yeah, he still passed, because who really wants furnitrue and motorcycles that you can't take the furniture home in?), but it was still better than the standard version of Splendido.

The second showcase? Yeah, random collection of prizes with no theme... we've had those long before this season too.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: BRB_TheFireball on October 17, 2008, 06:59:25 PM

L7:  OK, why did Drew allow David to call a zero?  When that one contestant tried to call a zero during one of the MDSs, Drew disallowed it and asked her to pick a different number.  Zeroes haven't been used in this game since 1987.

Steppy:  Wow, that barbecue was more expensive that I expected.  And that home gym was cheaper than I expected.

10C:  WTF?!  I don't want the Line 'Em Up cue festering this game!  Watching James play this game was frustrating... but was I ever relieved when he won.

Were my eyes deceiving me, or did we just have a lineup without a single SP game or GP game?  For the final time... you can't stop :clipboard:

SC #2:  Yay!  Showcase '83 cue! :P

My showcase bids
Splendido--$21,707
Cruise/van--$28,707

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Mallory16 on October 17, 2008, 07:37:45 PM

An SP-less, GP-less show is an historic moment, isn't it?  That had to be just about the least-expected appearance of Double Prices ever!  I'd be really surprised if there was any other hour-long episode that had neither.  Heck, I'd suspect there's no half hour episode with neither as well.

OK, I have to know whether Roger had actually intended for this show to be both SP-less and GP-less.  I mean, on one hand, he's Roger, and he's done crazy stuff before, but on the other hand, I also wouldn't be surprised if there was an SP or GP that was supposed to be played--more likely the GP--but for whatever reason, by mistake or otherwise, was not.

Quote from: mrbrown2195

I thought the "Ooops! I forgot this..." was a nice way to surprise the contestants, while livening up Splendido at the same time.

That doesn't surprise anyone.  Carpeting/mattresses/dinnerware never counts as one of the three prizes in a showcase.  It's kinda' like a natural extension of the room group its connected to.  And if a contestant doesn't have any idea how many prizes a showcase usually has, they'd have no idea whether to expect another prize or not, and as such, it doesn't really surprise them, either.  The line didn't fit.

Quote from: BRB_TheFireball

L7:  OK, why did Drew allow David to call a zero?

But it should be allowed!  For one, if a contestant is not a loyal enough viewer, they shouldn't be disallowed to make a bad choice.  And for two, considering Roger's not there anymore, I almost have to wonder if we will be seeing zeros again....

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: ClockGameJohn on October 17, 2008, 08:21:27 PM

There are several oddities about today's show that I am aware of.

One game was indeed a sub today.  However, surprisingly it was not a GP or SP game.  Lucky $even was not originally scheduled on this show; Money Game was.  I presume it may have something to do with the out of order airings.  (This show was initially scheduled to air 11/7/08)

This taping also reportedly took more than two hours due to a 45+ minute stop down during Act 1.  The contestant initially lost Lucky $even and Drew mentioned to the audience something happened that he felt the contestant was slighted.  A second car had to be brought in and the game was reset.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: JohnHolder on October 17, 2008, 08:24:07 PM

Is "No zeroes in Lucky Seven" an official rule, or just an unspoken rule that LFATs are supposed to know, like "the price always ends in 0" in Ten Chances? If it's the former, then Drew should have corrected the contestant today as he apparently did on the MDS. If not, there's no more reason to actually correct him and ask him to call a different number than there is to explicitly tell a Ten Chances player that $479 isn't allowed.

Just wondering, stats-keepers...how often has a contestant blown all seven dollars on one number - such as calling a 9 when the actual number was a 2 or lower?

John

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: temptation1979ga on October 17, 2008, 09:31:55 PM

John, the "no 0's in Lucky Seven" isn't really stated in the gameplay rules (unless there's something I don't know about), but those of us who watch all the time know that they no longer use zeroes because of the confusion they might cause (or at least that's why I think they no longer use them)...

Hmm, Ten Chances...on one hand, I'm glad Drew told the guy he repeated a price because I wanted him to win, but on the other hand, I don't think it's the host's place to keep up with what the contestant has and has not written...kind of like Bob used to tell contestants it wasn't his job to keep up with where they had tried to place previously drawn numbers in 3 Strikes.

Maybe I misheard, but I could've sworn on the reveal in Magic #, I heard Drew say the first prize had to be less than the Magic # for the contestant to win.

Finally, why did Drew have his tie flung over his shoulder for a second before during a one bid, especially since he spends so much time poking the darn thing down in his jacket all the time? I just didn't get what that was supposed to accomplish, whether he thought it was funny or what...

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: heelsrule1988 on October 17, 2008, 10:15:45 PM

...guessing zero in Lucky Seven? I'm really not sure what that was all about.

There are few things better on TPIR than wins on the tenth chance in Ten Chances. That was great to see.

One good thing to say about the new Showcase writing: I do like how they're trying to get the contestants more involved.

BEST CONTESTANT OF THE DAY: Tyronia
SHOW GRADE: 2

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on October 17, 2008, 10:55:55 PM

I hate to say this, but the Showcase has become by far the least enjoyable part of the show for me.  In the last several days, we've seen some of the worst showcases in the program's entire history, with the "talking models" presentation yesterday being the absolute bottom of the barrel.  The ones on this episode were no better -- saying that you've been shown "three prizes" when there have only been two does nothing but make the viewer wonder if they missed something.

Whoever is writing the showcases these days -- and I have to assume it's Drew -- clearly does not understand how these things are supposed to work.  Their mentality appears to be that the showcases either aren't exciting or contain crappy prizes, so they're going out of their way to try to make them sound exciting.  The problem with this is that adding fake enthusiasm to the narrative only emphasizes how uninteresting the whole thing really is.  This was never an issue before, when they either would make the presentations genuinely fun or would just offer three random prizes without even pretending that they had anything in common.  I'll admit that the latter wasn't always the most captivating thing in the universe, but at least they didn't make me want to actively not watch the Showcase; I can't say that about these new ones.

I can't wait for the first week of December...the Big Wheel may look hideous during it, but if the Vegas wheel episode was any indication, it'll probably have the best showcases of the entire season.

In an attempt not to have this post be completely negative, I will give Drew credit for the way he interacted with James.  The conversation about trains was funny, and it made him the most memorable contestant so far this season.  Ten Chances was also fun; James clearly understood how the game works, and his last-second win was really exciting.

I hate to put a damper on everyone's compliments about how well Drew explained Step Up...but am I the only one who noticed that before Danielle's second pick, he initially told her to choose the second-most expensive prize?

Roger certainly did go out with a bang -- as far as I know, this is the only episode in the whole run that didn't have any fee games.

Quote from: ClockGameJohn on October 17, 2008, 08:21:27 PM

This taping also reportedly took more than two hours due to a 45+ minute stop down during Act 1.  The contestant initially lost Lucky $even and Drew mentioned to the audience something happened that he felt the contestant was slighted.  A second car had to be brought in and the game was reset.

...what?  That doesn't make a whole lot of sense...what could have happened that the contestant was slighted, and even if something did, why didn't they just award him the original car and move on to Balance Game?

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: PimpinJC on October 17, 2008, 11:06:20 PM

Lucky $even-The moment David said 0, I knew he had lost.  I was shocked when he said it; no one really guesses 0 these days, seeing as how you'd have the worst odds.

Step Up-That barbecue was more expensive than I thought it was.  And that dinette was much cheaper than I was thinking.

Ten Chances-Wow, that came down to the wire.  That would have been absolutely depressing if James lost on the last chance.  But miraculously, he pulled a win out of thin air!  That was very considerate for Drew to tell James that he already guessed his last guess.  I doubt Bob would have done that.

Magic #-That's too low, Timothy!

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on October 17, 2008, 11:14:51 PM

Quote from: SteveGavazzi on October 17, 2008, 10:55:55 PM

...what?  That doesn't make a whole lot of sense...what could have happened that the contestant was slighted, and even if something did, why didn't they just award him the original car and move on to Balance Game?

It's very unusual. The only things I can think of is Drew screwed up the rules, made him guess the first number, and ended up losing because of it, or the contestant thought the price was with tax - didn't he ask something about the ARP and taxes midway through the game? Even then (if Drew screwed up), isn't it the usual practice of the show to just award the prizes anyways to avoid potential litigation? It's just... odd.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: ClockGameJohn on October 17, 2008, 11:19:33 PM

Drew did not screw up the rules as far as I was told.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Cartboy on October 17, 2008, 11:24:18 PM

Lucky Seven:  Too bad! :-(  David guessing zero for the fourth number sure was unusual.
Balance Game:  I thought she had it! 8-O
stEP uP:  Good thing Danielle bailed out!  I don't think that's what Drew had in mind when he said to go from the least expensive prize to the most expensive prize.
Ten Chances:  Finally a win! :-)  It's always great when a contestant wins the car on the last chance.
Magic #:  I knew Timothy's Magic # was too low! :headbang:  I haven't seen a prize less than $1,000 in price on Magic # in a LONG time!
Double Prices:  Rats! :-(  I knew the Day Sailer was $10,635!

Definitely not the way to end a week! :-(

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: TPIRSteven on October 17, 2008, 11:40:38 PM

Lucky $even:  I did not consider to be this to be a particularly evil setup, despite the 9 in the price.  In fact, I would have had it won!  I can't believe David picked a zero -- that move cost him the game and earns one of these:
:headbang:

Balance Game:  Tough loss.  I would have done the same thing.

Step Up:  We see this for the first time this season, and it's a toughie!  Danielle made the right move by stopping when she did!  I correctly had the barbecue placed last, but I had the dinette and the gym reversed.

Ten Chances:  This was hands-down the best moment in the show when James won the car on the final chance!  Very exciting!  I thought he was in trouble when he began making those $4XX guesses on the guitar.

Magic #:  Timothy clearly set the number way too low.  I would have won handily with $1,850.

Double Prices:  I didn't think that small boat would be $12,000+.

Showcases:  Ding ding ding ding ding!  First Splendido of the season!   :mrgreen:  However, I have to agree with SteveGavazzi on the poor showcases recently.  Most of Rich's lines were just plain corny and even inappropriate at times.  I admire Drew's good work hosting the show and I really like his style.  In fact, he was especially good today with lots of humor thrown in.  But from what I've seen so far, I think the showcases are best left alone.

As for my overall opinion of the show, we saw three pricing games make their season debut, which is a major plus; however, the lack of any SP or grocery game is a major negative.  I understand that Ten Chances takes a long time, which may have left them crunched later on (hence the Double Prices playing), but I do think that Step Up or Magic # could have been pushed back another day to at least make room for a grocery item game.  I think that this, combined the show's pitiful 1/6 record, pulls it below average.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: baklava724 on October 18, 2008, 12:44:54 AM

Quote from: temptation1979ga on October 17, 2008, 09:31:55 PM

Maybe I misheard, but I could've sworn on the reveal in Magic #, I heard Drew say the first prize had to be less than the Magic # for the contestant to win.

That would be correct -- the first (assuming you mean the lower priced) prize's price should be less than the Magic Number.  That would make the M# higher than the price of the prize (and hopefully lower than the price of the higher priced prize).

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: ardjark on October 18, 2008, 12:56:16 AM

Anybody else notice that in 10 Chances the blue price graphic for the car was incorrect?  It showed 17,880 instead of 17,980.

I say we call for a congressional investigation.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: ClockGameJohn on October 18, 2008, 01:20:54 AM

Actually, it was correct.  It's hard to see sometimes the difference between 6s, 8s, and 9s in Ten Chances.  It was one of the games we recommended a font change on!  :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/SLY4420/17980.jpg)

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: temptation1979ga on October 18, 2008, 01:22:22 AM

Quote

That would be correct -- the first (assuming you mean the lower priced) prize's price should be less than the Magic Number.  That would make the M# higher than the price of the prize (and hopefully lower than the price of the higher priced prize).

Thanks for pointing that out. What I said and what I meant to say are two totally different things. I actually thought "I'll probably bungle what I'm trying to say" as I was typing that sentence. Ta-daaah!

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: ardjark on October 18, 2008, 01:35:40 AM

Quote from: ClockGameJohn on October 18, 2008, 01:20:54 AM

Actually, it was correct.  It's hard to see sometimes the difference between 6s, 8s, and 9s in Ten Chances.  It was one of the games we recommended a font change on!  :)

Wow, guess I need a bigger TV... or glasses.  I humbly withdraw my complaint *slinks out of room, hat in hands*

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: BobJacobsenVer1 on October 18, 2008, 01:36:14 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and say James was the best contestant so far this year. He was so much fun, he was someone you could really get behind, Drew was talking about him, his hobby etc... he got the game and it was first time this year when he won the car, I jumped in excitement... way to go James!

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Briguy on October 18, 2008, 05:46:30 PM

Nick wrote:

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John is enough evidence for me.

This post was in regard to a question I had posed (and replied back to Nick's original answer) about his suspicion that Drew Carey is writing the Showcase scripts. I understand that John is site administrator and pretty reliable with his facts, but in the case of who is writing the scripts for the show, all it is is speculation.

Hate to sound like Wikipedia here, but unless someone can link me to a reliable source stating that Drew Carey is definitely writing these Showcase scripts that seem to be so terrible lately, I will not believe it.

Brian

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: The Square on October 18, 2008, 06:13:43 PM

James was a memorable contestant, because Drew prompted him about his train hobby and James offered that interesting statement about his wife letting him keep his trains in the living room if she can store her dolls underneath. Those are the kinds of things that make the contestants interesting, and the kinds of things I hope Drew can draw out of contestants more in the future.

In fact, that whole segment was going well until Drew started talking about how long Ten Chances takes. The reason that Drew finds Ten Chances to be long and frustrating is because he makes it long and frustrating. This playing is another example of why. After James chose reasonable but incorrect prices the first four times for the guitar, instead of offering any words of encouragement, Drew's spirit dropped right along with James when James said that he was stuck. Especially with a likable guy like James who has a clear chance of winning because he's ending all of his guesses with 0, that's when the host needs to say, "Don't get discouraged. Take a look at what you've written. We know those are wrong, but you're narrowing it down. You can get that guitar. Go to it!" Instead, Drew has already given up by pointing out that oh well, it's a nice cereal dispenser that James won.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on October 18, 2008, 08:57:34 PM

Quote from: The Square on October 18, 2008, 06:13:43 PM

In fact, that whole segment was going well until Drew started talking about how long Ten Chances takes. The reason that Drew finds Ten Chances to be long and frustrating is because he makes it long and frustrating.

It was long and frustrating under Bob too. Unless they actually start buzzing people out like Bob used to threaten, it will continue to be long and frustrating, but still very enjoyable.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Superfan on October 18, 2008, 09:16:48 PM

That's not true.  It was never long and boring when Bob hosted because I have seen it in person. I also saw Drew host in person.  My friends were there earlier this year and it took more than 15 minutes to play the 10 chances game.  It was so boring everyone in the audience was not interested.  That's not the game's fault it's the host fault.  Bob knows how to make it work out because my wife's favoriate game is that one!  Drew just needs to make them play the game and go faster and maybe he won't not hate the long games.  Did I read somewhere here that Drew hates 3 strikes game too because its long?

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: JohnHolder on October 18, 2008, 09:17:48 PM

Quote from: Superfan on October 18, 2008, 09:16:48 PM

My friends were there earlier this year and it took more than 15 minutes to play the 10 chances game. 

Why?

John

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on October 18, 2008, 09:50:53 PM

Quote from: Superfan on October 18, 2008, 09:16:48 PM

That's not true.  It was never long and boring when Bob hosted because I have seen it in person.

I didn't say it was long and boring - I said long and frustrating (≠ boring); which it most certainly is; I've seen it in person too, with Bob, and its incredibly frustrating to watch contestants who have no clue what they're doing write out absolutely ridiculous prices over and over again.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on October 19, 2008, 12:17:33 AM

Quote from: Briguy on October 18, 2008, 05:46:30 PM

Nick wrote:
This post was in regard to a question I had posed (and replied back to Nick's original answer) about his suspicion that Drew Carey is writing the Showcase scripts. I understand that John is site administrator and pretty reliable with his facts, but in the case of who is writing the scripts for the show, all it is is speculation.

Hate to sound like Wikipedia here, but unless someone can link me to a reliable source stating that Drew Carey is definitely writing these Showcase scripts that seem to be so terrible lately, I will not believe it.

Brian

Okay, Brian.  If you want to treat it like Wikipedia, I'll answer you exactly as I would if we were over there.

To be blunt, we know more about the show than anybody else.  If we're telling you that Drew is writing the showcases, you can be damn sure we heard it from somebody who'd be in a position to know.  Frankly, I'm insulted that you'd even entertain the notion that we might be lying to you.

Guess what?  Drew's writing the showcases.

You don't have to believe us if you don't want to -- but if you don't, you're gonna be wrong.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: PriceForever on October 19, 2008, 01:49:09 AM

Quote from: Superfan on October 18, 2008, 09:16:48 PM

  It was never long and boring when Bob hosted because I have seen it in person.

There is a subtle difference playing these games with Bob than it is with Drew.  Have you noticed when you watch the show that you never hear Drew say "hurry up" or "time's a-wasting" or "this is only a hour show and make up your mind."  Drew never, never, never, tells a contestant that they HAVE to make a decision.  He just stands there (classic example is Money Game!).  Bob seemed to hurry the contestant along if they took too long, which he had to do all the time during Ten Chances.  I have never been to a Drew taping with ten chances but I bet he just stands there and lets them take forever.  THAT"S why the unedited versions of ten chances takes ten minutes!

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on October 19, 2008, 03:30:16 AM

That's a very good point, PriceForever.  Ten Chances has always had its share of slow contestants, but at least in times past, if you were getting frustrated with them, you knew Bob was getting frustrated right along with you -- and somehow, that made the whole thing more watchable.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Superfan on October 19, 2008, 06:06:03 PM

To answer John above ^^^ the reason it took so long is that Drew carey just stood there while the player looked at his friends for what seemed like a eterniaty.  He didn't tell him to move along or whatever like Bob did.  My wife always wanted to play that game and said that the pressure of it is the fun part.
Priceforever is exactly right that is what happens.  Drew stands there.  it's like he's trying to be nice to the player but man it sure is boring for the rest of us!  Always remember the "O" rule in that game and when people don't know it it's funny and frusterating to watch.  We have gone to a few tapings since Drew took over some last year and some this year and we really used to liked him but at our last taping with the stuff he was saying off camera and how he was letting things take forever we don't like him as much.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on October 19, 2008, 07:25:08 PM

Quote from: Superfan on October 19, 2008, 06:06:03 PM

We have gone to a few tapings since Drew took over some last year and some this year and we really used to liked him but at our last taping with the stuff he was saying off camera and how he was letting things take forever we don't like him as much.

That seems to echo what Willy discussed on his website.

Like his attitude or not, guys, the things he talked about seem to be coming to pass.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: whinbaby on October 19, 2008, 11:03:55 PM

Game #35 (#6,956)

Showcase #1
Living Room - $3,568
Plasma TV - $3,995
Motorcycles - $12,798

Showcase #2
Computer & Desk - $3,724
Alaskan Cruise - $4,152    
Dodge Caravan - $22,925

Total show prize value:  $128,982 (24 prizes)

Your Modeling Scorecard for November 7, 2008
Daily Records
High:  $71,546 (Janice Pennington, 2000)
Low:  $17,721 (Kathleen Bradley, 2000)

Rachel Reynolds
November 7
Total:  $47,942
($10,877 won, $37,065 lost)
Total prizes:  9 (6-3)
Cars, Trips: 1, 0

After 18 shows
Total dollars:  $1,093,885
($502,857 won, $591,028 lost)
Total prizes:  160 (101-59)
Cars, Trips: 20, 14 (6-14, 9-5)

Brandi Sherwood
November 7
Total dollars:  $42,399
($30,508 won, $11,891 lost)
Total prizes:  9 (6-3)
Cars, Trips: 1, 1

After 12 shows
Total dollars:  $615,125
($250,535 won, $364,590 lost)
Total prizes:  91 (55-36)
Cars, Trips: 12, 11 (5-7, 4-7)

Lanisha Cole
November 7
Total dollars:  $50,922
($5,894 won, $45,028 lost)
Total prizes:  9 (3-6)
Cars, Trips: 1, 0

After 9 shows
Total dollars:  $416,335
($213,041 won, $203,294 lost)
Total prizes:  72 (49-23)
Cars, Trips: 5, 6 (1-4, 2-4)

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Briguy on October 20, 2008, 08:47:49 AM

SteveGavazzi wrote:

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Okay, Brian.  If you want to treat it like Wikipedia, I'll answer you exactly as I would if we were over there.

To be blunt, we know more about the show than anybody else.  If we're telling you that Drew is writing the showcases, you can be damn sure we heard it from somebody who'd be in a position to know.  Frankly, I'm insulted that you'd even entertain the notion that we might be lying to you.

Guess what?  Drew's writing the showcases.

You don't have to believe us if you don't want to -- but if you don't, you're gonna be wrong.

Am I saying that you and the others are liars? No, I've never said such a thing. I just want proof — even if it were the closing credits that they squeeze into a tiny space to make room for those stupid promos — about who is writing the showcases.

I'd thought this would have been on the main talk page, along with a link, stating, "Hey, Drew is writing the showcases now," for those of us who don't necessarily have any connection to the show.

I'm not trying to defend Drew or whoever is writing the showcases. As I pointed out in one showcase that I actually saw, it was kind of unorthodox. Whoever wrote it gets that criticism.

Brian

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: Briguy on October 20, 2008, 08:52:11 AM

In response to the criticism over the length of time Ten Chances is taking as of late, why not put it on a timer?

I know there never was a timer during the Bob Barker era, but perhaps it's time for one now. Ten seconds per chance.

Sure, there may be some nervous contestants who would be rattled by this and possibly (and theorhetically) never get one coherent price off (i.e., all remaining chances for a given price are buzzed off in succession because he/she is trying to consult with the audience, figure out a logical price and he/she has a mental block, or figure out a game he should already be familiar with).

Whatayasay?

Brian

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: edmojautis on October 20, 2008, 10:18:13 AM

Lucky 7: Oh, David!!! :-o :-o A Zero??!!! Not the best move.  :-(

Balance: $5245 just had to be it.

Step: Setup tricky. I would've went with the dinette set after the pool cleaner.

10 Chances: I actually feared James would be another clueless player after his $489 guess. But seeing him win on the last chance was pretty victorious.

Magic: $914??!!! Boy, was he just wrong.

Double: It just had to be $10K. Too bad.

Showcases: What in the blue hell was that about in showcase #1?  :headbang:
Rich having to scream "....can all be yours IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!!!!" Drew, Stick with hosting, please.  :cry:

A 2.25-star show.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: temptation1979ga on October 20, 2008, 01:30:21 PM

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In response to the criticism over the length of time Ten Chances is taking as of late, why not put it on a timer?

I know there never was a timer during the Bob Barker era, but perhaps it's time for one now. Ten seconds per chance.

I say he should just learn to hurry the contestants along when the situation warrants.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: JohnHolder on October 20, 2008, 02:42:52 PM

Quote from: Briguy on October 20, 2008, 08:52:11 AM

I know there never was a timer during the Bob Barker era, but perhaps it's time for one now. Ten seconds per chance.

Which brings up the following question: is 10C the only pricing game where the rules as written have never actually been enforced?

My suggestion, rather than a timer, would be a multiple choice format. You have a certain (escalating) number of price tags on each of the three prizes. The fewer chances it takes to correctly price the first two, the more chances remaining to price the car. That keeps the idea of the game intact.

John

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 10/17/2008
Post by: temptation1979ga on October 20, 2008, 07:44:28 PM

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Which brings up the following question: is 10C the only pricing game where the rules as written have never actually been enforced?

They have enforced the time limits before, it just hasn't happened in a while. In Ten Chances's first few years, it wasn't all that unheard of for Bob to have to explain, "That was the time's up buzzer for this chance, that doesn't mean your price is incorrect. To determine that, we will press this button to see..."