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Title: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: jaywilliams on February 25, 2019, 08:12:46 PM
I just read this evening on buzzer blog thatCard Sharks is the next classic game heading for a reboot. One issue I have about this, I personally cannot see this as a prime time offering; my gut feeling is that it will be a new daytime version and will likely be on NBC, paired up with the first new version of Concentration in nearly 30 years, as a new one-hour game show block, replacing the third hour of Today. The other choice would be first-run syndication paired as a two hour block with Steve Harvey's Family Feud, Alec Baldwin's Match Game and a new Press Your Luck.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: tpir04 on February 25, 2019, 08:54:04 PM
I think Match Game and Family Feud should be paired together. IMO it makes more sense, whether or not it is feasible. Family Feud did evolve from the Super Match, as we all know.

...paired up with the first new version of Concentration in nearly 30 years, as a new one-hour game show block...

May I ask your source? I have not seen anything about a new Concentration.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: imhomerjay on February 25, 2019, 09:02:19 PM
I just read this evening on buzzer blog thatCard Sharks is the next classic game heading for a reboot. One issue I have about this, I personally cannot see this as a prime time offering; my gut feeling is that it will be a new daytime version and will likely be on NBC, paired up with the first new version of Concentration in nearly 30 years, as a new one-hour game show block, replacing the third hour of Today. The other choice would be first-run syndication paired as a two hour block with Steve Harvey's Family Feud, Alec Baldwin's Match Game and a new Press Your Luck.

There is zero chance NBC News is relinquishing an hour of Today at this juncture. Even sans Kathie Lee, the fourth hour isn't going away, at least not in the near term. Nor is Alec Baldwin hosting daily show, nor is it confirmed Press Your Luck is daily.

Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: ThomHuge on February 25, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
For those interested, here is the post on Buzzer Blog that mentions this:

http://buzzerblog.com/2019/02/25/card-sharks-revival-casting/

"Concentration" is not mentioned.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on February 25, 2019, 09:20:03 PM
remember, he mentioned a "gut feeling"
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: ThomHuge on February 25, 2019, 09:24:58 PM
remember, he mentioned a "gut feeling"

When it's a "gut feeling" that seems completely at odds with reality, you'll forgive me for being a little dubious.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: JayC on February 25, 2019, 10:40:17 PM
I personally cannot see this as a prime time offering
I don't see why Card Sharks couldn't be in primetime. If they make the Money Cards a high enough prize it would certainly fit in primetime.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: blozier2006 on February 26, 2019, 02:00:29 AM
When it's a "gut feeling" that seems completely at odds with reality, you'll forgive me for being a little dubious.
At this point I'd consider any post from jaywilliams "a little dubious", given his posting history.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: jaywilliams on February 26, 2019, 09:41:20 PM
I think Match Game and Family Feud should be paired together. IMO it makes more sense, whether or not it is feasible. Family Feud did evolve from the Super Match, as we all know.

May I ask your source? I have not seen anything about a new Concentration.
No source but it is my personal two cents and opinion other than a wiki rumor from last summer that leaked a new Concentration with Stephen Cobair, but that is nothing but a wiki rumor, but we have had no remake of Concentration in nearly 30 years so it is time that NBC and NBCUniversal considers it, again my two cents.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: jaywilliams on February 26, 2019, 09:43:55 PM
There is zero chance NBC News is relinquishing an hour of Today at this juncture. Even sans Kathie Lee, the fourth hour isn't going away, at least not in the near term. Nor is Alec Baldwin hosting daily show, nor is it confirmed Press Your Luck is daily.
There might not be a choice for NBC but to give up the third and possibly fourth hours of Today. It is time for NBC to start exploring other daytime programming options, including game shows.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: IndianaPriceFan64 on February 26, 2019, 09:48:16 PM
 I can confirm that indeed Card Sharks is in the works for a reboot to be aired on ABC.  I got this information from Randy West. :) He has information on his facebook page on being a contestant.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: Casey on February 27, 2019, 12:18:32 AM
No source but it is my personal two cents and opinion other than a wiki rumor from last summer that leaked a new Concentration with Stephen Cobair, but that is nothing but a wiki rumor, but we have had no remake of Concentration in nearly 30 years so it is time that NBC and NBCUniversal considers it, again my two cents.
You really need to stop...
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: jlgarfield on February 27, 2019, 05:00:16 AM
Holy smokes. This is exciting news. First PYL, now Card Sharks..... can we have $ale of the Century back?
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: tpir04 on February 27, 2019, 09:08:46 AM
Yaaaaay! We are in desperate need of some oldies but goodies. :)
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: imhomerjay on February 27, 2019, 09:37:28 AM
There might not be a choice for NBC but to give up the third and possibly fourth hours of Today. It is time for NBC to start exploring other daytime programming options, including game shows.
That's....not how any of this works.

NBC just announced Kathie Lee's replacement. That hour is going nowhere. NBC makes serious money off the Today franchise, and until such time as that's not the case, they most certainly are not in a position of "having no choice."

Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: ThomHuge on February 27, 2019, 06:35:21 PM
There might not be a choice for NBC but to give up the third and possibly fourth hours of Today. It is time for NBC to start exploring other daytime programming options, including game shows.

Please explain why there's a situation that might leave NBC with no choice "but to give up the third and possibly fourth hours of Today." What evidence do you have that there's a problem in need of solving?

As for the second part..."it is time for NBC to start exploring" other options...I'm going to gently refer back to my previous caution about people posting just to post, and confusing their own opinions as fact. I appreciate that your opinion is that NBC needs to have a block of daytime game shows, but the facts don't really suggest that there's a concrete problem needing to be solved. Therefore, once again, I would ask you to explain what evidence you have that suggests otherwise.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: jaywilliams on February 27, 2019, 07:43:11 PM
Please explain why there's a situation that might leave NBC with no choice "but to give up the third and possibly fourth hours of Today." What evidence do you have that there's a problem in need of solving?

As for the second part..."it is time for NBC to start exploring" other options...I'm going to gently refer back to my previous caution about people posting just to post, and confusing their own opinions as fact. I appreciate that your opinion is that NBC needs to have a block of daytime game shows, but the facts don't really suggest that there's a concrete problem needing to be solved. Therefore, once again, I would ask you to explain what evidence you have that suggests otherwise.
That is just my own personal opinion. NBC has seen a lot of comings and goings during on the Today Show in the last 14 months, including Matt Lauer's and Megyn Kelly's removals. Remember, everyone is allowed to express their own opinions about a posted topic.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: ThomHuge on February 27, 2019, 08:22:42 PM
That is just my own personal opinion. NBC has seen a lot of comings and goings during on the Today Show in the last 14 months, including Matt Lauer's and Megyn Kelly's removals.

And...? They're still a successful franchise as far as I know. What reason do you have to suspect that the cast changes are hurting the show? And for that matter, (for the second time) what evidence do you have that the show has a business problem to start with?

(Note: your opinion that the show has a business problem, relating to money or ratings, isn't a valid answer unless you have something more than cast changes to discuss.)

Remember, everyone is allowed to express their own opinions about a posted topic.

As for the second part..."it is time for NBC to start exploring" other options...I'm going to gently refer back to my previous caution about people posting just to post, and confusing their own opinions as fact. I appreciate that your opinion is that NBC needs to have a block of daytime game shows, but the facts don't really suggest that there's a concrete problem needing to be solved. Therefore, once again, I would ask you to explain what evidence you have that suggests otherwise.

Emphasis added. I have no problem with anyone sharing their opinions on any topic, but what I and several other users are gently trying to get you to realize is that you keep presenting your opinions as fact, with no supporting basis whatsoever. It's not too much to ask that your posts make sense.

If you'd told us that the cast changes at Today led you to think the show was declining in popularity and might suffer sufficiently in the ratings that NBC might have to find an alternative, that would've been one thing. But what you did was declare, more or less out of the blue, that Today was losing the network money, and that putting on daytime game shows would be a better choice. As others have pointed out, there's no evidence to support either half of that statement--so it comes across as irrational.

Put another way, if you say that you want to see more gameshows on NBC, I don't think many would argue with you (I for one think it would be great to see NBC do something to redeem themselves after DonD and Weakest Link). Saying that you think there's a business issue with Today, with zero facts to back it up, and suggesting that a daytime game show would be more popular, again with zero facts to back it up, is something that's pretty much off the wall. And you're rightly being called on it.
Title: Re: Card Sharks next to return
Post by: jaywilliams on February 28, 2019, 07:25:49 PM
And...? They're still a successful franchise as far as I know. What reason do you have to suspect that the cast changes are hurting the show? And for that matter, (for the second time) what evidence do you have that the show has a business problem to start with?

(Note: your opinion that the show has a business problem, relating to money or ratings, isn't a valid answer unless you have something more than cast changes to discuss.)

Emphasis added. I have no problem with anyone sharing their opinions on any topic, but what I and several other users are gently trying to get you to realize is that you keep presenting your opinions as fact, with no supporting basis whatsoever. It's not too much to ask that your posts make sense.

If you'd told us that the cast changes at Today led you to think the show was declining in popularity and might suffer sufficiently in the ratings that NBC might have to find an alternative, that would've been one thing. But what you did was declare, more or less out of the blue, that Today was losing the network money, and that putting on daytime game shows would be a better choice. As others have pointed out, there's no evidence to support either half of that statement--so it comes across as irrational.

Put another way, if you say that you want to see more gameshows on NBC, I don't think many would argue with you (I for one think it would be great to see NBC do something to redeem themselves after DonD and Weakest Link). Saying that you think there's a business issue with Today, with zero facts to back it up, and suggesting that a daytime game show would be more popular, again with zero facts to back it up, is something that's pretty much off the wall. And you're rightly being called on it.
ThomHuge, From what I read on your post, you and Steve G. are right. My opinions and postings lately have not made any sense with zero facts to back me up and has irritated other bloggers on golden-road.net. My apologies to you, Steve, Marc and all my fellow bloggers on this webpage.