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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: priceguy on August 27, 2017, 05:50:35 AM
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There's a documentary about Ted?! How have we not been talking about this? It's made with Fremantle's blessing, and both Bob and Roger are being interviewed.
http://www.facebook.com/perfectbiddocumentary (http://www.facebook.com/perfectbiddocumentary)
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I didn't expect Fremantle to be so open about this. Remember, they did accuse him of cheating.
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First discussed in May (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,27385.0.html), but it seems quite a few things have happened since then.
I completely understand Roger being involved with this, but why Barker?
I didn't expect Fremantle to be so open about this. Remember, they did accuse him of cheating.
I had thought it was strictly a few individuals at the show.
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I didn't expect Fremantle to be so open about this.
Only those involved could give the real reason for their approval, but I would suspect it falls along these lines: Documentary about a Price Is Right superfan gets the show good attention, maybe even the kind of attention that gets people to watch the show more and (more importantly) follow their social media stuff. Surely there will be those who are trying to "crack the code" so they can get on the show and break the bank, yet as we all know, the rotation and turnover of prizes has become much larger and shorter respetively since the perfect bid incident; thus, there's no real significant risk of the same kind of event happening again. I suppose somebody could really do their homework and happen to get really lucky if he gets on the show, but the odds of that are much lower than what they used to be. In the end, the show gets a bunch of good publicity that didn't cost them much, if anything.
I completely understand Roger being involved with this, but why Barker?
Why not Barker? Putting him in there only adds to the draw this thing can have. Plus, Barker gets to remind people he's still out there fighting for animals, but more to the point, I'm sure he would have some amusing anecdotes relevant to the subject to share.
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First discussed in May (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,27385.0.html), but it seems quite a few things have happened since then.
Ah so there was an earlier thread. Sorry. I searched for one but I guess I didn't go back far enough.
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hello!
to answer one or two things -- fremantle had to get approval from the current show-staff to license us the broadcast footage, which admittedly took some time and back & forth...i have only been speaking with one person at the company and he's been great. They even gave me a break on the price, but for an independent production it is still fairly expensive per minute - and we need a decent amount, so that's potentially another reason why it was approved, on top of the other reasons you all cited. we are announcing the first screening date tomorrow as well! i am certain you all will enjoy it.
cjw
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I'm wondering if the licensing on the footage was only for footage that made air. Be interesting to see some of the footage from the 45 minute stopdown, if any exists.
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I think it's worth mentioning for the record again that on a good authority Steve knows (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,14091.msg226447.html#msg226447), the stopdown was no more than 20 minutes.
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Only those involved could give the real reason for their approval, but I would suspect it falls along these lines: Documentary about a Price Is Right superfan gets the show good attention, maybe even the kind of attention that gets people to watch the show more and (more importantly) follow their social media stuff.
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In the end, the show gets a bunch of good publicity that didn't cost them much, if anything.
I would normally agree, but considering that Ted was immediately and permanently banned from the show following that taping (hence the title of this documentary), I suspect one hand may be unaware of what the other is doing.
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And we have a trailer!
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hello!
an update on the film!
we have a website and a North America wide theatrical run being put together with some of the dates announced already - and we will be out world wide early next year! come out and see us if we are in your city - perfectbidmovie.com
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Come on, Ottawa, ON. You can't hit smaller Canadian cities and leave out the nation's capital! ;)
If this shows up in my neighbourhood, I may just pull out the three name tags I have from the tapings I attended and wear them all to the screening. A far cry from Ted's thirty-seven but would make for some fun nonetheless.
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Are you going to release this on Blu-Ray, DVD, and/or online because it showed where I lived and I would like to see it
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I'm attending a screening in Vernon, Connecticut, on December 30th. I can't wait for this.
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I see both Kevin Pollak and Drew are credited for the documentary. Is it safe to say that this footage will be used?
(This was posted five years ago, but just in case anyone hasn't seen it... some of the language is NSFW - it's Drew and Kevin Pollak discussing the perfect bid as well as all the changes in season 37, Roger's firing and this board's reaction to all of the above.)
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- we have reached out to ottawa recently, so hopefully something soon!
- yes, we have world distribution and will be out around spring next year and
- yes, kevin has given us permission for a few moments from that interview!
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Considering that now the show varies their prizes significantly more, imagine the amount of controversy that would rise if we had another exact bid in the Showcases
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Considering that now the show varies their prizes significantly more, imagine the amount of controversy that would rise if we had another exact bid in the Showcases
I only watch the show on very rare occasions, but from what I have seen, the powers that be seem to know how to set up the showcases to avoid ever having another perfect bid.
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Considering that now the show varies their prizes significantly more, imagine the amount of controversy that would rise if we had another exact bid in the Showcases
Except the fact there shouldn’t be any controversy at all, and shouldn’t have been the first time. The nature of the show rewards those who know the prices of products. If there’s going to be a controversy every time someone does that, then something has to change.
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I only watch the show on very rare occasions, but from what I have seen, the powers that be seem to know how to set up the showcases to avoid ever having another perfect bid.
It's an incredibly simple trick, too. With a quick glance, I only see one showcase in Season 45 that could've been DSW'd with a -000 bid (that is to say, ARP mod 1000 < 251). And it was over $48,000.
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It's an incredibly simple trick, too. With a quick glance, I only see one showcase in Season 45 that could've been DSW'd with a -000 bid (that is to say, ARP mod 1000 < 251). And it was over $48,000.
I was specifically referring to a perfect bid, not a DSW, but you bring up an interesting point. The probability of what you mentioned happening by chance has to be incredibly small, so it would seem that they are definitely going out of their way to avoid giving away double showcases.
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Ironically, it's the show's fault for putting out nearly the same prizes almost every week. Eventually someone was going to nail the showcase on the nose.
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I was specifically referring to a perfect bid, not a DSW, but you bring up an interesting point. The probability of what you mentioned happening by chance has to be incredibly small, so it would seem that they are definitely going out of their way to avoid giving away double showcases.
Season 39 had ten DSWs (two in three days one time). Something that has to be a modern day record, certainly one of the Drew/Mike era. It's believed that because of that season they began paying attention to the endings of showcases and putting on add-ons to avoid such a large amount of DSWs. I don't think it's really been "confirmed", but it's pretty much all but certain.
They don't completely avoid it. There are probably what could best be described as a "handful" of examples of showcases since Season 41 that have ended 000-250, but it something that a lot of current CSS players took note of during Season 40 and 41.
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Season 39 had ten DSWs (two in three days one time). Something that has to be a modern day record, certainly one of the Drew/Mike era. It's believed that because of that season they began paying attention to the endings of showcases and putting on add-ons to avoid such a large amount of DSWs. I don't think it's really been "confirmed", but it's pretty much all but certain.
They don't completely avoid it. There are probably what could best be described as a "handful" of examples of showcases since Season 41 that have ended 000-250, but it something that a lot of current CSS players took note of during Season 40 and 41.
I actually have noticed those occasional exacta-friendly showcases as well (especially ones with -000 and -500 endings)
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They don't completely avoid it.
No, but it's happened fewer than 10 times in the last five years, so they might as well.
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on bob barkers birthday, we have received final permission from fremantle & those involved with the show, so the documentary will live on and be released world-wide april 2018! we have our Hollywood premiere screening + Q&A (with a few special guests in the crowd) on the 18th at the Arhya Fine Arts theatre on Wilshire. Love to have you all come out!
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See you all tonight at the Vernon, CT screening!! Tickets are still available go to perfectbidmovie.com
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Season 39 had ten DSWs (two in three days one time). Something that has to be a modern day record, certainly one of the Drew/Mike era. It's believed that because of that season they began paying attention to the endings of showcases and putting on add-ons to avoid such a large amount of DSWs. I don't think it's really been "confirmed", but it's pretty much all but certain.
They don't completely avoid it. There are probably what could best be described as a "handful" of examples of showcases since Season 41 that have ended 000-250, but it something that a lot of current CSS players took note of during Season 40 and 41.
I think that the perfect bid begin to add more abstract things like"Groceries for a Year." Things that would be so far out of left field that they would be near impossible to price with strong accuracy. The Barker era would never do that. The goal of that era was to reward contestants for smart shopping and pricing. It seems that the goal of the Drew era is to create randomness in set-ups and game play to avoid consistent good gaming strategy.
I don't watch the show that much anymore because the magic is no longer thee. But if they have a new game or I hear a big event happened, I will watch. Sadly, Drew does not even encourage regular viewing like Bob did.
Joe
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I would fully support some type of physical or digital release of this once the tour is over. :)
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I think that the perfect bid begin to add more abstract things like"Groceries for a Year." Things that would be so far out of left field that they would be near impossible to price with strong accuracy. The Barker era would never do that. The goal of that era was to reward contestants for smart shopping and pricing. It seems that the goal of the Drew era is to create randomness in set-ups and game play to avoid consistent good gaming strategy.
I don't watch the show that much anymore because the magic is no longer thee. But if they have a new game or I hear a big event happened, I will watch. Sadly, Drew does not even encourage regular viewing like Bob did.
Joe
^This.
I remember Bob saying during a Million Dollar Spectacular to the viewers "if it wasn't for your loyalty, we wouldn't have been on CBS all these years and we know it!"
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Speaking of which, you should all mark your calendars down for February 21 (it's on the newsletter) as Roger and CJ will be on Stu's Show together to talk about this documentary in detail (plus screening clips), and yes, the show is now internet television in video format, so you can all watch the show (but you can listen in audio format as well). Should be a good one when that day comes!
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I think that the perfect bid begin to add more abstract things like"Groceries for a Year." Things that would be so far out of left field that they would be near impossible to price with strong accuracy. The Barker era would never do that. The goal of that era was to reward contestants for smart shopping and pricing....
Except the show never uses "for a year" prizes in games that require pricing the prize or the Showcases - only as part of prize packages in grocery or small item games.
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^This.
I remember Bob saying during a Million Dollar Spectacular to the viewers "if it wasn't for your loyalty, we wouldn't have been on CBS all these years and we know it!"
You know, the more I hear people bring up stuff like this, the more it seems to me like a bunch of butthurt from a group of people who the show doesn't pander to incessantly anymore (which, by the way, is at least partly due to the actions of a couple of different current and former members of this board, but I digress).
I was thinking about this last night, and it struck me that at least a little bit of the whole "LFaT" thing during Bob's tenure on the show was in part to stroke his massive ego. He knew that if he could groom people to watch the show religiously and follow every little thing he did like the gospel truth that it would equal more adulation for him in the long run.
Don't get me wrong--I was born in 1985 and watched Barker's version of the show for as long as I can remember, so I'm not totally against Bob. But truthfully, I believe Drew and his crew have made the show more accessible to a general audience. It's not just the show anymore for the Bob Barker Fan Club. It's everyone's show now.
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Er...really? I won't dispute that Bob's ego is the size of Texas, but the idea that he was trying to indoctrinate members of the audience like a cult leader...please.
Bob was a veteran broadcaster and knew which side his bread was buttered on, which was of course CBS and Goodson/Todman (and later Fremantle). His thanking people for their loyalty and asking people to watch every day was nothing more than trying to drum up ratings and ad revenue for his bosses. And more importantly, he always knew when to step back and give the contestants the spotlight...because again, while he may have a big head, he was still smart enough to realize that the game show biz is about people first and foremost.
As for Drew not bothering to ask people to watch every day...there's really no point, considering most people just can't anymore. There are no more housewives at home all day watching daytime TV like there were in 1972. Outside of old folks in nursing homes, the only time most people are watching is if they have an increasingly rare day off from work. Roger damn well knew this too, which is why he got away with reusing the same grocery products and prizes over and over again for years.
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As for Drew not bothering to ask people to watch every day...there's really no point, considering most people just can't anymore. There are no more housewives at home all day watching daytime TV like there were in 1972. Outside of old folks in nursing homes, the only time most people are watching is if they have an increasingly rare day off from work. Roger damn well knew this too, which is why he got away with reusing the same grocery products and prizes over and over again for years.
I'm sorry, but this is just patently false. 1) There are still plenty of stay-at-home moms and dads out there, or they'd just program the test pattern during the day. 2) Even more people have DVRs, VCRs, or some such device that allows them to watch every day (how do you think I do it?)
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Not to mention people that work from home, college students who don't have class when the show is on, and the unemployed/between jobs.
The show is accessible now because it's adapted to the modern world of social media and having buzzworthy and viral moments that get people interested and talking about the show. People watched the show and made the trip to be on the show because they loved the show and grew up watching it and loving Bob, and Drew's been hosting long enough that now there's people who grew up watching and loving him host too. Both Bob and Drew know/knew that the contestants are the factor that make or break a show.
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Not to mention people that work from home, college students who don't have class when the show is on, and the unemployed/between jobs.
Plus the fact that the show uploads full episodes to cbs.com along with Youtube user TVLubber3 occasionally uploading memorable highlights from certain episodes (such as big wins, bloopers, "historic moments" as Bob would call them, etc) and various other Youtube users uploading episodes and/or parts of them.
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I'm sorry, but this is just patently false. 1) There are still plenty of stay-at-home moms and dads out there, or they'd just program the test pattern during the day. 2) Even more people have DVRs, VCRs, or some such device that allows them to watch every day (how do you think I do it?)
Certainly there are plenty of people at home, though it isn't an "either/or" situation: the numbers have decreased over time when examined over decades. Be they stay-at-home parents, workers on non-traditional shifts/schedules, work-at-home types, students, etc. Some of those latter groups might be "regular" viewers in the more modern definition of "regular," being 2-3 day a week viewers.
Of course, coupled with more ways to watch Price (or any other currently programmed "linear" TV show), there are the Netflix services of the world, "on demand," smart TVs with the ability to access internet content, and on it goes. Any program today operates in a radically different landscape than just 10 years ago, let alone 20, 30 or 40. That necessitates doing things differently, and to Price's credit, they've rolled with the times to, as someone so well stated it, make it accessible. It has the familiar elements, but packaged in a way that works well for newer audiences overall. That's a darned hard thing to pull off particularly in "mid-stream" so to speak, and they deserve props for that.
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This movie is going to be released the day after my 29th birthday
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Is it only going to be on Blu-ray? I don't have a single device in my house that plays them.
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we will be on all the main digital stores and netflix either the same day, or shortly thereafter
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What about DVD? I prefer owning my music and movies on physical media but I don't have a Blu-Ray player (and have no plans or desire to buy one).
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What about DVD? I prefer owning my music and movies on physical media but I don't have a Blu-Ray player (and have no plans or desire to buy one).
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i believe they will be releasing standard definition versions as well. i have also been sourcing around to find a place that will do a few collector VHS editions, for those who'd appreciate and/or need the novelty
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Speaking of which, it's time to plug Stu's Show for next week (February 21) which I hope everyone will listen and/or watch as it is on Internet TV, and on a bi-weekly schedule (if this needs to be put into a new topic, that's fine). Here is the full description:
"In 2008, a contestant made an exact bid on a Showcase during the final moments of a taping of America's longest running game show. Unfortunately, it did not happen during Bob Barker's regime. What followed afterward was panic and anger from the newly-installed production team and host. What could have become tremendous publicity for the 37-year old program was quickly passed over as a result of the decision made behind the scenes. All game show fans remember the moment. But what most game show fans (and the public) most likely don't know is that there was an incredible back story to the whole incident, a back story that has now been documented in a new feature that's winning awards all over the country for not only its candid look at its principle subject, but also for its enter-taining look at how "The Price is Right" was managed and operated during its heyday. The film's producer/director CJ WALLIS will be in studio along with former TPIR showrunner (and film co-star) ROGER DOBKOWITZ to reflect on the story of Ted Slauson, the uber fan who attended more than 23 tapings before he was selected as a contestant and then caused a major stir at the program years later when he helped a contestant win his Showcase with that exact bid. We'll also get the story behind CJ's quest to create the film, and how both Roger and Bob Barker appeared in the film to help tell the saga of "the contestant who knew too much". And yes, of course, we'll have a generous sampling of clips from the film along with the reading of your e-mails!"
http://stusshow.com/
This should be a great show! Think about sending questions for next week (brief and short). Here is the link to watch the stream come the 21st at 4pm PT/7 pm ET:
https://iframe.dacast.com/b/92970/c/447572
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^^
this is today!
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And it's showtime! Stu looks really nice on live Internet television.
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Listening to the show, did i hear correctly that Fremantle ordered the removal of the fact that Ted was permabanned from the documentary, further claiming that no such ban list exists?
Without that information, the title of the documentary makes little sense.
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that feeling when they went out of their way to plug this site
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that feeling when they went out of their way to plug this site
Shoot, someone beat me to posting that! :D
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And we are done! About 2 hours and 40 minutes worth, and the show will be available in both audio and video PPV formats soon. Hopefully you will all become a VIP listener soon to access free PPV and some free audio...
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Stu has just posted a Youtube link of the full show at no cost in case you want to see the full show again. Check it out:
Don't forget to support the film by making any donation with this link: http://www.perfectbidmovie.com/
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Enjoyed watching the Stu's Show interview yesterday. I'm planning to drive four hours and head on down to the Fargo screening. Still waiting to see what date/time it will be showing at.
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Hello! For anyone in North Dakota, we are the opening night special gala screening at the Fargo Film Festival March 20th. Should be a great event and only a handful of screenings left! The film is a totally different experience with a crowd!
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Hello! For anyone in North Dakota, we are the opening night special gala screening at the Fargo Film Festival March 20th. Should be a great event and only a handful of screenings left! The film is a totally different experience with a crowd!
Comin' on down from Winnipeg to check it out!
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hello! a reminder that there is a screening tomorrow night at 7pm at the Fargo Film Festival, we will be at the Richmond International Film Festival end of April and have a few more pop-up showings around the country before our May 8th Netflix & Blu-Ray release! Appreciate you all showing the film so much support over the last year.
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hello! a reminder that there is a screening tomorrow night at 7pm at the Fargo Film Festival, we will be at the Richmond International Film Festival end of April and have a few more pop-up showings around the country before our May 8th Netflix & Blu-Ray release! Appreciate you all showing the film so much support over the last year.
Where will the Blu-Ray be sold?
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in most/all retail stores and online may 8th
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we have just found out we will be screening in phoenix april 6th at 920am and april 9th at 455pm at the phoenix film festival. tickets available on their site, not sure if any of us will be in attendance as its extremely short notice, but we will try. hope to see some of you there!
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Ended up not being able to make it to Fargo for the screening. However, I sent Mallory a contribution to help pay for the Fremantle licensed clips used. I'd encourage other G-R members to do so if they are able.
Does anyone know if the episodes used in this production were ever posted to Youtube or elsewhere? It would be nice to see the complete shows in addition to the documentary since CJ had to edit out a lot of the interaction.
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BLU-RAY & "LFAT" LIMITED EDITION PRE-SALE
The Pre-Sale Link For Perfect Bid: The Contestant Who Knew Too Much Blu-Ray & DVD will go on-sale TODAY at 2pm 37 minutes and 43 seconds (PST) exclusively at fortyfps.bigcartel.com
100 Limited Edition "Loyal Friend & True" editions with custom artwork and signed by Ted, Roger & Myself will be available as well!
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Ended up not being able to make it to Fargo for the screening. However, I sent Mallory a contribution to help pay for the Fremantle licensed clips used. I'd encourage other G-R members to do so if they are able.
Does anyone know if the episodes used in this production were ever posted to Youtube or elsewhere? It would be nice to see the complete shows in addition to the documentary since CJ had to edit out a lot of the interaction.
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7971D (1991)
7752 (s19)
8541D (s21)
2211K (s30)
2375 (2002)
4524K (2008)
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5385D (s12)
7971D (1991)
7752 (s19)
8541D (s21)
2211K (s30)
2375 (2002)
4524K (2008)
Can you please list the exact airdates for these episodes? They may not be listed by production number on YouTube
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Can you please list the exact airdates for these episodes? They may not be listed by production number on YouTube
4524K: (VTR 2008-09-22 / OAD 2008-12-16)
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Can you please list the exact airdates for these episodes? They may not be listed by production number on YouTube
Check the timeline.
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Got myself a LFAT edition preordered, thank you.
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Perfect Bid will be the featured project on DISH PPV for two weeks starting May 8th!
Also on Comcast, Time Warner Cable & Charter/Spectrum, Cox Communications, Verizon & Rogers in Canada.
VOD: Apple iTunes, Amazon, Fandango Now, Vudu, Google Play, Youtube Movies, Sony Playstation & Microsoft!
More to be announced as we get closer to the release!
Also, you can also pre-order your limited edition or standard versions of the film here: fortyfps.bigcartel.com
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Roger Dobkowitz will be chatting with Morgan White of Boston on his radio show about #PerfectBidDocumentary!
He usually takes calls, so please listen and participate tonight on WBZ NewsRadio in Boston at 10 PM EDT!
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I will try. May not been able to stream, but WBZ comes in very well at night in the eastern half of the country so there is the ol AM radio.
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Here is the link for those who want to tune in (they've changed the stream now as they are part of the Clear Channel/iHeartMedia family since late last year):
https://www.iheart.com/live/wbz-newsradio-1030-7729/
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Will this movie be in online streaming sites (Netflix and such?)
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all current announced services are listed 4 posts up (more to be announced shortly)
also, we will be screening may 18th at the adrian film festival in michigan, if any of you are nearby!
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Adrian is not too far from me. I didn’t even know they had a film festival! I might make that one.
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we are the opening night film in adrian and they are already expecting 300+ which would be amazing. its an outdoor venue, should be a great night...
we are also playing the Richmond International Film & Music Festival tomorrow at The BowTie Criterion, 12:15pm!
You can still pre-order one of the remaining Loyal Friend And True collector's editions of the film today! http://fortyfps.bigcartel.com/product/loyal-friend-and-true-limited-edition-blu-ray
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For you digital consumers, the film's I-Tunes pre-order link is now live! If you've seen the film, drop us a rating!
https://apple.co/2KryRCA
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Perfect Bid will be the featured project on DISH PPV for two weeks starting May 8th!
Also on Comcast, Time Warner Cable & Charter/Spectrum, Cox Communications, Verizon & Rogers in Canada.
VOD: Apple iTunes, Amazon, Fandango Now, Vudu, Google Play, Youtube Movies, Sony Playstation & Microsoft!
More to be announced as we get closer to the release!
Also, you can also pre-order your limited edition or standard versions of the film here: fortyfps.bigcartel.com
so it will be available on all these on May 8?
when is the DVD/Blu-Ray releasing?
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speaking of iTunes, the price has been reduced for preordering for the weekend ($6.99 as opposed to the normal 12.99 price) for the weekend
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Is this out on Netflix? I can't find it.
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Is this out on Netflix? I can't find it.
No it's not.
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unless the film is a netflix exclusive, there is a 90 day wait period until after its initial release before they will carry it - so august-ish?
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I’m just wondering how you guys got the un-aired footage of the perfect bid episode.
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What was mark Goodson secretary’s last name? I just watched and ted said mark good sons sedentary Pam (friend of Kathy Greco) set next to him during a taping
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Just watched it last night. Bravo to the producers!
I found it very enjoyable. Granted, I'm watching as a longtime fan of the show. I wonder how non-longtime fans of show are receiving it. I believe it's getting good reviews in general.
Regarding Terry’s Exacta, I found it surprising and frankly a bit paranoid on the part of the producers and Drew, that their initial reaction was that Terry was fed the price. There were 3 often-shown prizes in the showcase. Terry was able to get close, very close, and got lucky with some digits. Period.
If it was proven that he was fed the price, why would the show be cancelled – as Drew feared? There’d be an investigation by S and P, some people would be fired and replaced, the perpetrators would be caught and prosecuted. There’d be a press release about the leak demonstrating to the public that the show takes game show fraud seriously. But would they cancel a very profitable then-40-something year-old show over this? I really don’t think so.
I was a bit “oft put” by Drew’s comment “it’ll never happen again”. We've seen several Exactas in CSS. If you do your homework and watch the show, Exacta’s are possible. No matter how hard Mike (or whomever) mixes up options on a car, or adds things to trips, a good player can get very close to the ARP. And with a little luck, hit it on the nose. Again, we've all seen that.
Finally, I’m no prude, and some might disagree, but Drew needs to watch his F-bombs in those outside interviews. I realize he’s also a sometimes raunchy comic. But he’s also currently getting his bread buttered (heavily) from a long-running ‘family show’. For that reason alone, and out of respect for the show, he should mind that. Especially when he's discussing the show. It’s as if he’s trying to appear ‘cool’. I think I counted at least 5. Bad form.
I definitely recommend the film.
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thanks for the review! glad you all are finally getting to check it out!
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I've been watching for Perfect Bid on Dish PPV.
Any word yet on what dates it will be available?
Thanks!
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hello! its been there since the 8th -- 455/458 i think?
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Any idea when the blurays will ship out?
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i was told on may 6th by our distributors that the initial/standard bulk order they do for films when they are first released was unexpectedly/immediately sold out, so our LFAT special editions were backordered. i received them friday and processed all of them today, as i was travelling all saturday, so everything will ship tomorrow. apologies for the delay.
proud to say we are #1 doc on itunes in the states and canada, so if you've seen it, please feel free to leave a review (couple words, doesnt need to be a novel) - as it helps support the film in major ways without costing anything!
thanks for the support, hope you all are enjoying the film!
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we are playing the traverse film festival today at 9am, and again on the 5th at the kubrick theatre. these will be the last public showings of the film, if you are nearby, come say hello! ted will be there on the 5th
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It is now on Hulu, so I got a chance to watch it yesterday.
I enjoyed it a lot. It was really cool to hear the history or how the exacta came to be.
I find it extremely off-putting though to hear that while Bob and Roger were all for contestants being able to perfectly bid items because of how often they were used, that Kathy Greco has the opposite opinion.
Ted had been to the show at least two DOZEN times. He was mentioned by Bob on camera multiple times BEFORE being a contestant. Seems to me like the only person who doesn't like seeing LfaTs around there was her.
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I also got a chance to watch this on Hulu today and it's an amazing documentary. I absolutely loved the history of what lead up to Teds pick and the exacta. I still feel bitter about how the whole thing was handled and I know it wouldn't have been handled that way if Rodger was still there. Stupid Kathy. She really ruined a great moment and prevented any future moments like that, even though it took over 35 years for that to happen. Once again, great doc. Thanks for all the effort.
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I also got a chance to watch this on Hulu today and it's an amazing documentary. I absolutely loved the history of what lead up to Teds pick and the exacta. I still feel bitter about how the whole thing was handled and I know it wouldn't have been handled that way if Rodger was still there. Stupid Kathy. She really ruined a great moment and prevented any future moments like that, even though it took over 35 years for that to happen. Once again, great doc. Thanks for all the effort.
Would it have been handled differently if Roger was still there? Maybe. But given the circumstances, I feel like the staff at that time had ample reason to feel the way they did.
After Drew was hired, there were a handful of instances where others here started butting heads with TPTB (the one in particular that stands out to me was the guy that attended multiple tapings of Drew's MDSs and kept getting seated towards farther toward the back because he kept giving away exactas). I think the tipping point was after Roger got the can and everyone here went bat-shiat crazy. It's not that far-fetched for someone to believe it was a way for someone who was bitter about Roger's dismissal to sabotage Drew's version of the show by cheating, and I can see where Fingers could feel like having such an exacta could be perceived as such.
My point here is that it's wrong to point blame at just one person (i.e., Fingers), when this event was part of a larger happening that this very fandom played a part in coming about, even though no one here will probably admit it.
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Just got finished watching for some fun to wrap up the night. I have more thoughts later, but oh man the easter eggs. You guys were so freaking clever with this stuff, especially with your deliberation. Also hitting on the subtle Snoopy a few times on top of that. Love it! Won't spoil for those that haven't seen it, but I hope I'm not the only one to pick up on what you did.
As a prize tracker and memorizer (nearly 100 pages and counting!), yeah. One quick note I want to point out: Yeah, the interviews are 10 years old with Drew, but hah on the concept of not being able to exact Showcases anymore. There's at least once a season where they beg for it and a handful of other times where studying it makes it cake. Show repeats all the time now and I'd argue more than ever given the desired prizes from a younger demographic are more limited in scope. Credit to the show for making that change in the eyes of viewers, but with it comes easy trends to pick up, with a notable exception of some (not all, certainly not) designer goods that are not otherwise sold on American markets/in USD, and/or have been discounted.
One thing I wondered about with Ted, is if he used backwardization to derive prices? I know he's here, obviously. But should he not see this: Basically, something I do when I'm hunting prices down is I'll take a Showcase apart, piece by piece.
There might be 2 prizes I do know, but one I don't: So if we've got a France trip (oh god, Ted on trips wasn't kidding-even the excursions vary now for total ARP) for $13,336 I do know, and a Fiesta for $21,225 I know, but I'm not sure of the other item, I'll make the equation as follows: UP (Unknown Prize)=((ARP)-(France+Fiesta))). I will also do this for car options that aren't specifically available online, like Paint and Fabric protectant. This strat was hinted at, but not sure how far down the line it went.
The other question: Did Ted know the SC ARPs, or close enough to them (relatively speaking) the day of his airing? That's a dangerous game of what-if, but I'd have to ask myself that question if the Big Wheel and my science-based spins (relative weights, torque make that an equation as well) weren't kind to me.
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One thing I wondered about with Ted, is if he used backwardization to derive prices? I know he's here, obviously. But should he not see this: Basically, something I do when I'm hunting prices down is I'll take a Showcase apart, piece by piece.
There might be 2 prizes I do know, but one I don't: So if we've got a France trip (oh god, Ted on trips wasn't kidding-even the excursions vary now for total ARP) for $13,336 I do know, and a Fiesta for $21,225 I know, but I'm not sure of the other item, I'll make the equation as follows: UP (Unknown Prize)=((ARP)-(France+Fiesta))). I will also do this for car options that aren't specifically available online, like Paint and Fabric protectant. This strat was hinted at, but not sure how far down the line it went.
The other question: Did Ted know the SC ARPs, or close enough to them (relatively speaking) the day of his airing? That's a dangerous game of what-if, but I'd have to ask myself that question if the Big Wheel and my science-based spins (relative weights, torque make that an equation as well) weren't kind to me.
1) Yes, and it took me a while to put that idea together. For years, I wouldn't bother tracking anything in the showcases, but I would always place my own bids on them when I watched. One day, in the summer of 1982 or 1983, I hit a showcase on the nose because I knew the prices of three of the four items in the showcase and estimated the carpeting to be $20 per square yard, giving me $800 for 40 square yards. When Bob read the price of $5,204, which matched my bid, I yelled louder than I probably ever have. Unfortunately, it took a few years for me to realize that by tracking the showcase prizes, I could backwards engineer some of the prices (in the way you described.) It also allowed me to go back and fill in blanks in the showcases if I determined the price of a prize later in the season. Ultimately, this is how I figured out the prizes of the boats, trailer, the hoverjet, the amphibious vehicle, etc. Also, the Lorren episode was a fluke because I got to see her paperwork after the show from that point on I was able to separate mattress prices from bed/bedroom prices and I also got to see the price of one of the bedding ensembles.
2) I think you are asking if I knew the price(s) of the showcase(s) on the day I was a contestant on the show. Yes and no. One showcase included a dining room, dinnerware, flatware, and a spa. Easy peasy. Except that not long before the previous season ended, the dining room had been in a showcase and I thought the price had gone up, so I would have been over had I been bidding on the showcase (however it's possible I would have talked myself into going with the original price of the dining room had I been in the position to bid on the showcase.)
As noted in the movie, I did hit a showcase on the nose at the Monday taping two days before I was selected. The contestant, however, was almost $7000 over the ARP. I also hit a showcase on the nose in the studio in 2005 when I was there with several friends. Didn't make a difference that time, either. As they say, the third time is the charm. :-)
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It is now on Hulu, so I got a chance to watch it yesterday.
I enjoyed it a lot. It was really cool to hear the history or how the exacta came to be.
I find it extremely off-putting though to hear that while Bob and Roger were all for contestants being able to perfectly bid items because of how often they were used, that Kathy Greco has the opposite opinion.
Ted had been to the show at least two DOZEN times. He was mentioned by Bob on camera multiple times BEFORE being a contestant. Seems to me like the only person who doesn't like seeing LfaTs around there was her.
Ted is a true LFaT. For about a two year period, he seemed to be present at every taping. I remember Bob and Rod both seemed genuinely delighted when he was finally called down as a contestant.
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Just watched the documentary not too long ago. What I really liked was Ted's BASIC program he wrote of Price. And just like BigJon's version, it looks WAY better than some official Price PC games of the era (You know which one I'm talking about).
Hey Ted, how long did it take you to write that program? It looks very polished up!
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1.) I don't even think we have spoiler tags.
2.) Whether we do or not, this really, really didn't need spoiler space, which is why I edited it out of your post.
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Just watched the documentary not too long ago. What I really liked was Ted's BASIC program he wrote of Price. And just like BigJon's version, it looks WAY better than some official Price PC games of the era (You know which one I'm talking about).
Hey Ted, how long did it take you to write that program? It looks very polished up!
Long story short, it took two years. Some weekends, I could crank out as many as five games, but some games took much longer (Pathfinder, for example, was somewhat of a pain in the rear because I had to figure out code so that there wouldn't be two of the same number next to each other on the board or two choices to step to that were the same number).
And for those of you who are wondering, yes it was that horrible GameTek version of The Price Is Right that inspired me to write the program. After waiting forever for the GameTek version to arrive, I was very disappointed when it finally did arrive and decided to look into writing my own.
As a possibly interesting side note, in the documentary when I'm talking about the car in Card Game being $7,659 because I had seen it at a previous taping where they played Lucky Seven, and the action cuts to a computer game of Lucky Seven--well that is not from my BASIC game, but from even earlier (mid 80's, probably) when I would program individual games on my...wait for it...Texas Instruments TI-99/4A home computer. Yes, I still have the computer and I was happily surprised when I could not only get it working with my television set, but also was able to pull the programs off of the...again, wait for it...audio cassette tapes that they were on.
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I finally got a chance to watch this and I was thoroughly entertained. I loved all of Ted's stories, especially about how Bob was specifically calling him out on that one episode for constantly calling out exact prices. I was a little disappointed that Terry didn't seem to want to cooperate with this project, but I guess he has his own motives. Anyways, thanks for a fun documentary, and to Ted, just know that we fans appreciate you.
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I also was able to watch this. It was so good, I showed it to my mom. We're planning on our first trip to Price this December. It's interesting that when I was a kid, before the days of G-R.net, even before I was a lurker on the MSN boards, even I recognized that the show reused prizes and I was quite successful at memorizing their prices. Although it's a lot more difficult nowadays, some prizes still repeat and it still pays to watch The Price Is Right!
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Any chance you can dump the files of your BASIC Price games?
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Wow! Though I still record and watch the show almost every day, I'd been out of the loop on participating here and paying close attention to the show, and totally missed the release of this documentary! A buddy at work mentioned it to me last week, and I immediately looked for it! Great job to all involved -- very interesting flick. It's available on Amazon Prime right now if anyone is looking to find it ...
I think the thing I found most interesting was how differently the hardcore fans are viewed now versus in the Roger/Barker era ... a noticeable change.
George
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For anyone interested, the video is currently free on Amazon Prime video.
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hello!
just a note to mention that if you have not had the chance to catch it along the way, perfect bid will be coming to netflix tomorrow until atleast the rest of the year, perhaps longer!
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Just watched this... boy, if this wasn't a huge ego stroking session for Dobkowitz and Slauson, I dunno what is. I literally rolled my eyes and laughed at Dobkowitz flashing the Emmy statues. I seriously don't know how or why Drew rates a "starring" credit. I somehow doubt he willingly participated with this. Meanwhile, poor Holly gets more mentions than Barker, yet not even a co-star credit. Absolutely laughable from start to end (except for the part where they made Barker look like a sad, lonely old man, when he stated he regretted having to retire.)