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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: TPIRighteous on June 20, 2012, 04:51:26 AM
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Hey all! I just got back from the West Coast swing I took with my brother to San Francisco and L.A. This past Monday, June 18, we went to the 12:30 taping of The Price is Right. Some of you may recall that I went to see the show two years ago, but this was my brother's first time, and he loved it. As this was the first taping of Season 41, I thought I'd share the experience with all of you and let you in on what's coming this fall.
We woke up at 5:00 and left my friend's place in Pasadena at 5:30 to get on a 780 bus. We got to TVC around 7:00, which would have been a death sentence in previous years, but we ended up with processing numbers 118 and 119. I'm not sure if it was because OCA is now handling ticketing, or if there was just low demand for tickets, or what. I do know that there were no Order of Arrival passes; we just waited in a line on Fairfax until around 7:45 or 8:00, and immediately got our processing numbers.
At the first set of benches, we signed an eligibility form and filled out a small card with our basic info; there is no longer an essay portion of the contestant interview. We took our picture in front of the green screen and moved on to the second benches, at which point we were told that the first 130 people would be able to order off the CBS lunch menu. My brother bought chicken tenders and I got quesadillas. They were each $10, but they were really good and came with sides.
A page took pictures of each of us for the producers, and then we interviewed with Stan. For the second time in three tapings, I was the first one in the wave of interviews. It's kind of intimidating being first, but it's a fun interview, and I felt like it went pretty well. Once our group finished, we checked our phones with security and moved on to the final set of benches, where we received the food we had ordered. We also watched an episode from Season 39 (the Paula Deen episode), followed by a video of George Gray explaining what to do with interspersed highlight/blooper reels. The girl who took our lunch orders also went up and down the aisles with a snack cart, which is also something new, if my memory serves me correctly.
Then we went into the studio. It looks a little different, but not too much so. I'll explain that later on. My brother and I, in spite of our high processing numbers, got placed in the second row, right behind the red and blue podia. That tells you how important the numbers are these days, but we were happy about it.
Mike Richards didn't talk to us the whole show; George did the warmups all by himself. The show went by pretty quickly (there was only one short stopdown, unrelated to Drew), and Drew was funny and engaging, both on and off camera. If I had to guess, I'd say the tendency to chop the show to pieces post-production is mostly a product of Drew's tendency to be a little more off the cuff than the timing of the show allows him to be. If the show were an hour and five minutes long, he would come off as a much better host.
There are two big changes to the set that I noticed. One is that the doors have changed; gone are the yellow dots ("lights") around the logo, replaced by a solid silver border, and there are also silver borders around the inside squares. The logo is also brighter and smaller—it now takes up less than half the height of the door. The other is that, obviously, the "40 Years" signs between the doors are gone, but the giant dollar signs are still there, attached to the walls so they look like they're floating. Come to think of it, the lights at the edge of the stage may not have been there, but I might have just not noticed them.
There's also a new prize podium for a game that was played Monday (can't say which). It was pretty nice, and it had circle patterns like the ones on the Rat Race/10 Chances pre-car walls.
I didn't hear anything about the new director, but Adam Sandler was not the stage manager. Maybe this is old news.
I apologize for the somewhat short write-up, but I don't have much else to say that isn't either spoilers or contestant-specific stories that won't be relevant until the airdate, which is October 8. I'll fill in some more details then. Be sure to look for my brother and me in the college t-shirts, giving contestants (mostly) good advice!
As always, if you want more info, feel free to PM me.
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Might want to say which one this is...
There's also a new prize podium for a game that was played Monday (can't say which). It was pretty nice, and it had circle patterns like the ones on the Rat Race/10 Chances pre-car walls.
Reason being: there are already two games I can think this relates to. If it's the first game, it's old news, the other would be very (sadly) unsurprising due to its extremely similar nature to the first ( and if it's either of them, then the prop isn't new).
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Yeah, you likely ended up spoiling the game actually, barring that it's the other of its type.
...Again, this door change sounds as minute as the circle prize podium. Yet, they don't bother to entire remove the $ podiums? I'm not saying the doors will look much worse, but why has there been attachment to silver since S40?
It's interesting this is actually the 6060s (4th week) starting off tapings, not the 6040s (2nd week), assuming nothing crazy has happened yet (of course, the 5660s was Celeb Week last season).
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Yeah, you likely ended up spoiling the game actually, barring that it's the other of its type.
...Again, this door change sounds as minute as the circle prize podium. Yet, they don't bother to entire remove the $ podiums? I'm not saying the doors will look much worse, but why has there been attachment to silver since S40?
It's interesting this is actually the 6060s (4th week) starting off tapings, not the 6040s (2nd week), assuming nothing crazy has happened yet (of course, the 5660s was Celeb Week last season).
Well, we know starting off the season they don't start at the top of the taping list. They'll do the season premiere around late August as usual. Probably polishing up something for that taping...
Cyclone
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Well, we know starting off the season they don't start at the top of the taping list.
I qualified that by saying 6040s (2nd week). The 6030s will be season premiere week. Last season it was the 5640s starting tapings, now it's two weeks later.
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I guess the Back to School show which airs in August will be the last of the old doors. It looks like they are giving the doors a shiny new look:)
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Bear in mind the doors aren't completely changing. Besides the silver bordering, everything else seems to be the same.
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Bear in mind the doors aren't completely changing. Besides the silver bordering, everything else seems to be the same.
The size of the logo is changing as well, according to TPIRighteous, and the silver "$" signs are now floating between them.
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Let me ask actually... are doors 1-3 still orange, blue & green respectively?
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The size of the logo is changing as well, according to TPIRighteous, and the silver "$" signs are now floating between them.
Forgot about that. Fail. :P
Regardless, they still probably look pretty similar.
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Let me ask actually... are doors 1-3 still orange, blue & green respectively?
Yes they are. And hopefully the game I mentioned isn't spoiled; I was hoping "prize podium" would be vague enough, but sorry if you think you know what it is.
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Sounds to me like the doors were changed to more closely resemble the current Turntable walls...
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Not your fault if you haven't watched the shows lately, this only just came up in the past 6 weeks.
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I don't care how small the change is, the doors are actually changing. That's good news.
Floating "$" sounds fun. I hope it translates well on TV. I think if they're going to have the signs it might be better that way, so they don't have to keep moving the pedestals from in between Doors 1 & 2 to inside of Door 1 during some games as they did this season.
Thanks for the report. :)
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And hopefully the game I mentioned isn't spoiled.
I don't think "narrowing it down to one of two if you really think about it" qualifies as a spoiler.
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^ Except if you really think about it, it probably only is one. :P
It's OK, not a big game here at all.
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Are you saying that this has already been on TV and I just haven't seen it? If that's the case, I can see how that would kind of give it away.
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One of the games I'm thinking of has.
The other hasn't, but the fact that it would have it is very unsurprising due to its very similar nature to the former game.
(Sorry, I'm trying to be as specific as possible while still being vague...we can take this to PM if you want.)
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One of the games I'm thinking of has.
The other hasn't, but the fact that it would have it is very unsurprising due to its very similar nature to the former game.
(Sorry, I'm trying to be as specific as possible while still being vague...we can take this to PM if you want.)
I'm more in the confused state.
Cyclone
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...obviously, the "40 Years" signs between the doors are gone, but the giant dollar signs are still there, attached to the walls so they look like they're floating.
So, if I understand this correctly, the $ logos are between the green frames of the doors? If so, that sounds kinda neat.
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So they just pried off the 40 years sign on them
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So they just pried off the 40 years sign on them
I wouldn't use the word "pried", but it sounds like yes, they were removed.
Cyclone
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so is this the right main idea how the doors and the ($) floating look like to your description? (http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p562/alex_smith10/set41.jpg)
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so is this the right main idea how the doors and the ($) floating look like to your description?
Yup, I'd say you pretty much nailed it.
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When you say the logo is "brighter", what do you mean? Are the colors different shades? Is the yellow of "Price" & "$" a more pale yellow? Neon orange behind the "$"?
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When you say the logo is "brighter", what do you mean? Are the colors different shades? Is the yellow of "Price" & "$" a more pale yellow? Neon orange behind the "$"?
The orange and red are both lighter shades. It's really a pretty minor difference, but I'd say they're closer to the Season 36 colors.
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Reason being: there are already two games I can think this relates to. If it's the first game, it's old news, the other would be very (sadly) unsurprising due to its extremely similar nature to the first ( and if it's either of them, then the prop isn't new).
For those of us who haven't seen the show lately, which is the first game?
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For those of us who haven't seen the show lately, which is the first game?
Don't ask openly for spoilers :P
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I "renovated" my old Big Door art to match the description of the season 41 doors. At first, the thought of silver around the squares on the doors bugged me, because I think they've gone major silver overkill the last couple of years (in addition to square overkill), but my paint-produced mock-ups don't look half bad...and if it looks good on a computer screen, it can only translate better on TV.
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/caseyfan25/S41/S41Door1.png)
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/caseyfan25/S41/S41Door2.png)
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/caseyfan25/S41/S41Door3.png)
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The green one in particular is quite good
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I "renovated" my old Big Door art...
Those look remarkably similar to ones I made a few years back and showed you. Even if they are and you just modified them, that doesn't look too bad so I can't complain too much.
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Those look remarkably similar to ones I made a few years back and showed you.
They are very much my own creations - frames, square pattern, lights, right down to the logo (which I created from modifying two different logos).
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Don't ask openly for spoilers :P
Spoilers? He already said earlier in this thread that it's aired, and based on the PM he sent me, it aired weeks ago. Since I wasn't watching, I asked him to clarify which game he was talking about.
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Spoilers? He already said earlier in this thread that it's aired, and based on the PM he sent me, it aired weeks ago. Since I wasn't watching, I asked him to clarify which game he was talking about.
What I meant was, if he tells you the game he's thinking of in this thread, it could be spoiling one of the games in TPIRighteous' show which does not air for 4 more months.
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Starts 9/17 ?
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They are very much my own creations - frames, square pattern, lights, right down to the logo (which I created from modifying two different logos).
Then we obviously just have similar art styles. :-P
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One more thing I just remembered: CNAOS prizes are no longer. Contestants stuck in the Row at the end of the show now get $300 cash.
Drew's explanation was that a cheap prize can often be a poor consolation for not making it on stage, especially if you don't like the prize, so they decided to just give each contestant a little money and let them buy something for themselves.
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That's much better-at least they won't get a tacky small prize for not appearing on the show. $300 can be spent on heaps of things, which is handy in my opinion.
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^You may like it, and I may like it, but I fear for the budget: $300 per player is $900 per show, multiplied by approximately 195 episodes in one season...unless my math is incorrect, the show is setting aside approximately $175,500 in cash to be used as consolation gifts. And as we know, cash costs money.
If this money is paid out by CBS, no problem; but if this comes out of the prize budget, oh dear...
(And all this aside, it would look rather bad IMO if the CNAOS players got more cash than anyone who got onstage.)
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(And all this aside, it would look rather bad IMO if the CNAOS players got more cash than anyone who got onstage.)
Anyone who gets onstage has won a prize worth more than $300.
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God dammit, this sounds like Drew mucking things up.
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If they are going to get rid of CNAOS small prizes and start handing out cash, maybe the cash should be sponsored if the cost is indeed coming from them and not CBS. Something similar to what Wheel of Fortune used to do with the Mystery Round.
"Contestants not appearing on stage will receive a cash award courtesy of Bullseye Barbecue Sauce. Put a kick into your kitchen creations with this spicy and flavorful sauce guaranteed to make each dish delicious. And now here's Drew with the Showcase Showdown!"
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I get giving out money instead of a consolation prize (I'd prefer to get cash myself) but be prepared for more games set up for losses and hard to price showcases if the cash is in fact coming out of the budget. Mike has to make up for it somehow.
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... I fear for the budget: $300 per player is $900 per show, multiplied by approximately 195 episodes in one season...unless my math is incorrect, the show is setting aside approximately $175,500 in cash to be used as consolation gifts.
Srsly? This is what's given away in what, 3 shows?
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Srsly? This is what's given away in what, 3 shows?
Not in cash. $900 in cash costs the network/show $900. Prizes cost them considerably less than MSRP through some combination of promotional consideration and deeply discounted purchasing.
Do we have to assume that it's coming out of the existing prize budget? Isn't it possible that they've increased the budget to account for this?
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If they are going to get rid of CNAOS small prizes and start handing out cash, maybe the cash should be sponsored if the cost is indeed coming from them and not CBS. Something similar to what Wheel of Fortune used to do with the Mystery Round.
"Contestants not appearing on stage will receive a cash award courtesy of Bullseye Barbecue Sauce. Put a kick into your kitchen creations with this spicy and flavorful sauce guaranteed to make each dish delicious. And now here's Drew with the Showcase Showdown!"
It wouldn't be a product sponsor. It would be someone with something to gain financially themselves. I'm speaking of the almighty credit card companies. Watch for MBNA, a future daily sponsor for the rest of TPIR's life on television! (Or maybe Capital One, or maybe just VISA...)
Cyclone
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How does $900 per show compare to the average cost of the consolation prizes?
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How does $900 per show compare to the average cost of the consolation prizes?
Depends on the prizes.
Cyclone
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Depends on the prizes.
No kidding.
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Depends on the prizes.
I am reasonably certain that "a telephone from Invention Submission Corporation" was worth less than $100 when it was (part of?) the CNAOS package circa Season 34...and possibly not above $50.
Do we have to assume that it's coming out of the existing prize budget? Isn't it possible that they've increased the budget to account for this?
Mike has enough trouble managing a budget.
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So, if George can replace the second closed caption plug with "Contestant's not appearing on stage recieve cash from the following." It can air two quick commercials. Then back to Drew, with George saying "And now back to Drew with our Showcase Showdown!".
OR
"Contestants not appearing on stage will recieve a gift card courtesy of (NAME OF GIFT CARD with description. And now, here's Drew Carey with our Showcase Showdown
On reruns: "Promotional consideration provided by the following!"
If contestants recieve a copy of The Price is Right for the Wii, DS, or Xbox 360. "Some contestants may recieve a copy of The Price is Right" video game. With over 25 pricing games, hundreds of prizes and showcases, and more! It's the Price is Right Video Game. Available for XBOX 360, Nintendo Wii, and Nintendo DS. So, Come on Down! Rated E for everyone! And now here's Drew Carey with the Showcase Showdown!
LMAD should do a plug before the big deal of the day promoting the Let's Make a Deal Board Game. Ending with "And now, back to Wayne and the Big Deal of the Day!"
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They were giving away $300 gift cards to Newegg for a while, though those were probably sponsored.
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The Don Francisco coffee "year supply" they used to give away was $480 worth.
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Awarding cash as the consolation prizes is not a new trend in game shows. Jeopardy switched to $2,000 and $1,000 prizes for the second and third place winners respectively several seasons ago. Prior to that it was a gift, such as a bed and complete linen set. Wheel of Fortune also moved to cash instead of "parting gifts" several seasons ago.
I personally would rather have the $300 instead of a "year's supply of Turtle Wax." And if cash makes for a better contestant experience then I am all for it.
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Forgetting the budget hit (if it is a significant hit - I think it does cost a handful of PG wins a year now, maybe why G-R and 3X have taken big hits lately) - still overall, the worst thing is that the last-second camera time for the left-behinds has been unceremoniously erased.
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On the whole, I would say that $175,500 for consolation prizes over a full season isn't too bad. If they give away $12 million a year, it's less than 1.5% of that.
What is a show's worth of won prizes averaging these days, somewhere around $50-60 thousand? That's only about three shows worth of prizes.
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And if we say 80% of that is new cost, that's about ~12-15 PGs (mostly cars) and maybe a DOB to offset.
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And if we say 80% of that is new cost, that's about ~12-15 PGs (mostly cars) and maybe a DOB to offset.
Forget the cars - rather, unclaimed trips. The money saved from those won prizes ends up paying contestants not appearing on stage.
Which begs the question of whether the player who won the $649 barbecue got the better deal.
Cyclone
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Sure they did. They got extra face time on national television and had at least two chances to win even more fabulous cash and prizes that the contestant who didn't appear on stage got.
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Well i must say the silver on the doors make it quite nice. The only thing i would wish in the future for TPiR is get rid of the orange doors and replace it with either red or purple or both, for example like make half of the first doors red and the other half purple.
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Well i must say the silver on the doors make it quite nice. The only thing i would wish in the future for TPiR is get rid of the orange doors and replace it with either red or purple or both.
Considering the current color scheme of the show, I agree with purple on the first door fitting better. Would make the Wheel stand out more with it's current color scheme.
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Another thing i would change is making the third podium purple to replace the yellow color in contestant's row.
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You could, you know, also have it changed to orange. ;)
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Well i must say the silver on the doors make it quite nice. The only thing i would wish in the future for TPiR is get rid of the orange doors and replace it with either red or purple or both, for example like make half of the first doors red and the other half purple.
Both on one door?
Who makes the interior design decisions around your house?
Cyclone
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Well it would look better if it had purple but if the orange was a darker color like an orangey red color that wouldn't have been much of a big deal either, the same thing with brown or black.
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If contestants recieve a copy of The Price is Right for the Wii, DS, or Xbox 360. "Some contestants may recieve a copy of The Price is Right" video game.
How would they determine which contestants would receive the prize? Unless the "some" in this case refers to the contestants not appearing on stage?
I remember some of the talk shows, I don't remember which one(s), would have a sponsor plug "Some members of our studio audience will receive _____" and I always wondered how they selected which audience members would receive the _____.
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Back to purple by itself; the MDS doors were once green, blue, purple. Purple was also in the S35 door design. I'm not against purple being used.
Cyclone
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Back to purple by itself; the MDS doors were once green, blue, purple.
No, they weren't. They were blue, pink, and purple.
(Not that this changes your point, but it's still wrong.)
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Pink? Wha?
Cyclone
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I think the doors being orange, blue, and green create a nice contrast that isn't so strong that it's hard on the eyes. Plus, home base is essentially considered purple, evident from when the light strips on the borders light up in the colors of the doors.
I think the best thing to do with the wheel would be to make the square design red-on-red. I've always thought the red-on-orange looks ridiculous, especially since it's inconsistent with the door designs, which feature two tones of the same color.
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Pink? Wha?
What part of the word "pink" are you having trouble comprehending?
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What part of the word "pink" are you having trouble comprehending?
It wasn't what I would call "pink". Maybe a light shade of red that is close to pink, but not Hot Pink.
Cyclone
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It wasn't what I would call "pink". Maybe a light shade of red that is close to pink, but not Hot Pink.
Since I never said it was hot pink, I'm not really sure why that's an issue.
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It wasn't what I would call "pink". Maybe a light shade of red that is close to pink, but not Hot Pink.
Cyclone
What shade of Pink looks Green?
the MDS doors were once green, blue, purple.
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What shade of Pink looks Green?
I'm saying they would never use a hot pink on the set. I stand by my green, blue, purple, but perhaps it's the purple he's referring to as pink.
Cyclone
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I'm saying they would never use a hot pink on the set. I stand by my green, blue, purple, but perhaps it's the purple he's referring to as pink.
Cyclone
It was blue, pink, and purple.
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s34/gsn93/MDSa.png)
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I'm saying they would never use a hot pink on the set.
http://www.golden-road.net/gg/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=1 (http://www.golden-road.net/gg/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=1)
That pink looks pretty hot to me.
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That looks blue, pink, and purple ^.
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There's my age showing itself, I don't remember the door being that light in colour. Well, two out of three ain't bad.
http://www.golden-road.net/gg/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=1 (http://www.golden-road.net/gg/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=1)
That pink looks pretty hot to me.
Point taken. I was referring to the doors, NEway, not the part behind Bob during Contestant's Row.
Cyclone
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I stand by my green, blue, purple, but perhaps it's the purple he's referring to as pink.
No, I assure you it was the pink that I was referring to as pink.
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No, I assure you it was the pink that I was referring to as pink.
You missed my most recent post in this thread apparently.
Cyclone
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Well, two out of three ain't bad.
When you "Stand By" the wrong 2 out of 3 after multiple people said you were wrong, it is.
Point taken. I was referring to the doors, NEway, not the part behind Bob during Contestant's Row.
It shouldn't take Einstein to figure out the "part behind Bob during Contestants'* Row" has the three exact same colors as the three doors. :P
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When you "Stand By" the wrong 2 out of 3 after multiple people said you were wrong, it is.
Uh...I had the blue and purple right, I had the pink wrong. That's the two out of three. Obviously I forgot the middle door was pink. For some reason, I thought one of them was green, obviously thinking of the green door now or something.
Cyclone
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Uh...I had the blue and purple right, I had the pink wrong. That's the two out of three. Obviously I forgot the middle door was pink. For some reason, I thought one of them was green, obviously thinking of the green door now or something.
Cyclone
Yes, you had 2/3 right, where did I say you had 1/3 right? 8-O
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You missed my most recent post in this thread apparently.
Nope.
It shouldn't take Einstein to figure out the "part behind Bob during Contestants'* Row" has the three exact same colors as the three doors. :P
Certainly makes me feel silly -- I never noticed it before. Nice catch!
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here's a glimpse of the new look of the doors for season 41 of #TPIR (http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p562/alex_smith10/AzJ9pzxCcAEWz5K.jpg)
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The doors look way too busy with all that silver...and the logo looks very rinky-dink. Not impressed.
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Agree with Guinty 100%. The whole thing doesn't look very good at all...it looks like the kind of thing painted on a canvas...
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Let's see how it looks on camera first, I am fairly confident the orange-tinted logo is that particular lighting. I certainly don't hate it, and the $ pedestals do look fine w/o 40.
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Let's see how it looks on camera first. I certainly don't hate it.
I feel the same way. The only thing I dont like and I don't think it will look go on camera is the logo looks to small
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What is that behind the monitor in door #1? It looks like a blow-up photo of a cityscape or something.
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now i'm starting to wonder about the wheel?If it got a silver border look?
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I see they have still not bothered to update the Giant Price Tag.
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Out of curiosity, where did you get that photo, alex?
Not to combine threads, but from that photo, it's clear that there are only 3 models for that day at least - all females too :) (Unless they would give a male model that shade of yellow seat, which I doubt they would.)
Edit: Yellow is Rachel's. Source (http://twitter.com/#!/DanielGoddard/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Flockerz.com%2Fs%2F230028009) (Looks like Daniels would be next to Ambers, as per the piece of a chair in the bottom left corner)
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Out of curiosity, where did you get that photo, alex?
Not to combine threads, but from that photo, it's clear that there are only 3 models for that day at least - all females too :) (Unless they would give a male model that shade of yellow seat, which I doubt they would.)
Edit: Yellow is Rachel's. Source (http://twitter.com/#!/DanielGoddard/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Flockerz.com%2Fs%2F230028009) (Looks like Daniels would be next to Ambers, as per the piece of a chair in the bottom left corner)
i found on twitter earlier today on CBSdaytime twitter page ! :-D https://twitter.com/i/#!/CBSDaytime/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2F85jhBShU
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now i'm starting to wonder about the wheel?If it got a silver border look?
Check CBS daytimes twitter there is a picture of Sharon Osborn in front of the big wheel
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CoG & Push =/= Wheel
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I like it. That lighting on Door 1 really makes it pop. I agree that the logo looks too small for the doors, however that maybe due to the fact that...
A.)That picture was taken in the back of the studio without a television camera and...
B.) None of the doors are closed.
I guess we'll see how it really goes off September 4th.
BTW, I've mentioned this before but never really had the visualization, but this is exactly the type of shot I'd love to see used to reveal Triple Play. Either all doors opening at once or one at a time, I just want to see it.
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(http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/20939cbad8c511e18c26123138203b41_7.jpg)
Now this pic is cool! Looks like the logos on the doors light up... and shows how the dollar signs are attached... neat!
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Bleh. That seems even MORE out of place, and any slanted shots of the doors are simply going to look goofy.
Yet another big fail by Mike & Co.
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Looks perfectly fine to me.
At this point, I'm starting to wonder whether anyone else on this site even has objective opinions regarding this show any more.
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Yet another big fail by Mike & Co.
:lol:
"I'm going to base a show's set on strange angles that don't air on TV and if it doesn't look as good as previous sets did on TV, it's a BIG fail from Mike! Everything that I don't like about the show is a big fail from Mike!"
Lets just wait to see how this will look on TV. I don't think it looks bad at all but it will more than likely look even better from normal angles.
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http://buzzerblog.com/2012/08/cbs-daytime-the-price-is-right-and-lets-make-a-deal-updates-for-2012/ (http://buzzerblog.com/2012/08/cbs-daytime-the-price-is-right-and-lets-make-a-deal-updates-for-2012/)
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"About time the show reached the 21st century." Uh-huh. :roll:
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"About time the show reached the 21st century." Uh-huh. :roll:
How is that a silly statement if viewing demographics have changed since the '70s?
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It just sounds rather arrogant when talking about a show whose formula has worked well for three decades before the 21st century. I'll leave the demographics part of it up to those who understand that better.
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The 3D logos on the doors I am liking. I am worried about them lighting up.
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It just sounds rather arrogant when talking about a show whose formula has worked well for three decades before the 21st century.
It's obvious they have been adding things here and there to bring the show up to modern times (while still maintain a retro game show look). Don't see why that's such a bad thing.
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It's not that the changes are a bad thing, it's the tone of the comment that rubbed me the wrong way. It's like someone who'd never watched the show before comes in out of the blue and decides they know what's best for it. I'm not saying the writer hasn't seen the show, it's just what the remark comes off sounding like. Just my opinion.
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:lol:
Maybe it's just me but I'm sick of seeing your posts start with this, it's like you're laughing at the rest of us. Knock it the heck off.
"I'm going to base a show's set on strange angles that don't air on TV and if it doesn't look as good as previous sets did on TV, it's a BIG fail from Mike! Everything that I don't like about the show is a big fail from Mike!"
Does the phrase "change for the sake of change" mean anything to you? Oh and, side-on angles of the doors have been shown on TV for decades. The intro shots for pretty much any game where Drew and the player stand between Doors 1 and 2 are all at an angle, same for the start of Safe Crackers, same for the prize podium in Half Off...need I go on? The logo being smaller on the doors looks weird, with the old flowaround doors it made a little more sense since there was something filling space around the edges, but now with just the squares it looks weird. In principle the inset lighting looks okay, but having the inner two doors pushed so much farther back than any of the others does look strange.
Lets just wait to see how this will look on TV. I don't think it looks bad at all but it will more than likely look even better from normal angles.
I don't need to wait to see what it will look like. Unless they completely reblock shots for some games, it's going to look bizarre. The small logos look strange. Stop arguing, all it's going is making you look foolish.
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I like what they done with the doors,pretty neat to make the logo look 3D on the doors
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I don't need to wait to see what it will look like. Unless they completely reblock shots for some games, it's going to look bizarre. The small logos look strange. Stop arguing, all it's going is making you look foolish.
Come on, you'll get used to a minor cosmetic change like all the other ones.
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What I'm worried about is how the doors are going to look on-camera with the center-two panels having much more depth than the others. As you can tell from side-shot, they had to push the middle panels of the big doors back a bit so that they can open with the 3D logo. They do look very strange with such small logos - in 5 years we've gone from the logo (season 35) taking up nearly the entire door to taking up barely 1/4. I just hope it comes off better at home on TV. The fact that the logos light up just seems like a pointless change to me. I'm certainly not going to stop watching the show because of it, but it may still bug me.
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Come on, you'll get used to a minor cosmetic change like all the other ones.
Get used to it, yes. Cease to call it strange, nope. (I still think that about Door #5.)
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From a directing standpoint, maybe they wanted to start the close-ups of the doors opening at a closer angle than before, but, still wanted the whole logo to take up the shot, hence why the logo is smaller now?
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From a directing standpoint, maybe they wanted to start the close-ups of the doors opening at a closer angle than before, but, still wanted the whole logo to take up the shot, hence why the logo is smaller now?
I doubt they'd go to the expense of altering the doors for the simple convenience of the director. The smaller logo (correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it smaller even than the old ones used up until 1997?) is harder to see from the audience and harder to see on TV. The only reason I can see for making it smaller is the fact of it being a three-dimensional prop now, which would be harder to split across four door panels than two.
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Maybe it's just me but I'm sick of seeing your posts start with this, it's like you're laughing at the rest of us. Knock it the heck off.
I use it because I am laughing.
Does the phrase "change for the sake of change" mean anything to you? Oh and, side-on angles of the doors have been shown on TV for decades. The intro shots for pretty much any game where Drew and the player stand between Doors 1 and 2 are all at an angle, same for the start of Safe Crackers, same for the prize podium in Half Off...need I go on?
Is it a change for the sake of change? Yeah... doesn't mean it's bad though.
The majority of changes in set designs for game shows have been "changes for the sake of change" but heaven forbid a set designer wanting to do something to make a show look more presentable on TV (haha).
Also, the angle is no where near as close as it is in the pictures that were posted.
The logo being smaller on the doors looks weird, with the old flowaround doors it made a little more sense since there was something filling space around the edges, but now with just the squares it looks weird. In principle the inset lighting looks okay, but having the inner two doors pushed so much farther back than any of the others does look strange.
Again, I think it's better to wait to see how it will look on TV. The first pictures of the homebase looked strange but it looked a whole lot better on TV (since you couldn't see the gap that it had).
I don't need to wait to see what it will look like. Unless they completely reblock shots for some games, it's going to look bizarre. The small logos look strange. Stop arguing, all it's going is making you look foolish.
Yes I'm foolish because I don't judge a set on pictures from strange angles that have men still working on it.
How foolish of me. :lol:
I doubt they'd go to the expense of altering the doors for the simple convenience of the director. The smaller logo (correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it smaller even than the old ones used up until 1997?) is harder to see from the audience and harder to see on TV.
Can't really say that yet. It may not be that hard to see for the audience and on TV depending on how it's lit up.
The only reason I can see for making it smaller is the fact of it being a three-dimensional prop now, which would be harder to split across four door panels than two.
Possibly.
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(http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/20939cbad8c511e18c26123138203b41_7.jpg)
Now this pic is cool! Looks like the logos on the doors light up... and shows how the dollar signs are attached... neat!
Looks very nice.
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Looks very nice.
Does that mean we will see new art work from you. lol
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It just sounds rather arrogant when talking about a show whose formula has worked well for three decades before the 21st century.
Dude, it's Alex Davis. What do you expect?
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I think the problem is actually that the look of the show feels like it's stuck in between past and future. It was obvious in Season 36 that they were going for a retro-kitsch look, but since then, that approach has been abandoned in favor of modernization. Fair enough, but the modernizations are being built extremely slowly out of the S36 retro-kitsch look, which makes the entire thing look unbalanced and, to many, an eyesore. If they wanted to modernize they should have just built a new look from the ground up, and that does not necessarily mean the American Idol-esque set that was rumored at one time. Look at GSN's The Pyramid - there's a good example of how to make a modern set that still captures the spirit of the original.
Maybe it's just me but I'm sick of seeing your posts start with this, it's like you're laughing at the rest of us. Knock it the heck off.
I don't understand why that smiley even still exists. It serves almost no purpose other than to be used for mocking others, which contributes nothing constructive to any discussion.
Dude, it's Alex Davis. What do you expect?
This time, Steve, you're exactly right. The thing is, though, I do believe he has said that he didn't even watch the show before Drew started, which makes Hag's assessment actually pretty accurate.
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I slightly agree with yeah's on that
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This time, Steve, you're exactly right. The thing is, though, I do believe he has said that he didn't even watch the show before Drew started, which makes Hag's assessment actually pretty accurate.
Davis wasn't even interested in game shows before, if I remember correctly, Millionaire, and he still doesn't seem to have any respect for most of what came before it. The notion of him as an authority on the genre is a falsehood of his own invention that, for whatever reason, everyone just seems to listen to.
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I didn't even know of Alex Davis...clearly I'm going to have to read more of his articles.
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How is that a silly statement if viewing demographics have changed since the '70s?
What? Fewer people in their 60s watch TPIR?
EDIT: Oh, almost forgot. I'll bet someone breaks the logo on the door somehow this season. I don't know how, but it will happen.
Cyclone
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Does that mean we will see new art work from you. lol
Yeah, probably. Just wait til the next season and you'll probably find out depending on what comes up.
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What? Fewer people in their 60s watch TPIR?
There are more to demographics than just age.
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There are more to demographics than just age.
Indeed. That one, however, never changes.
Cyclone
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So the new logo is 3D and lights up. Now it makes a bit more sense why it's so small and appears washed out in the photos. I can accept this change a little more now that I know this. I think it's a neat idea to have it light up. It would still look better if it were bigger but that can't be helped I suppose.
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Yeah, I like the new look for the doors and logo. I'm sure it will look a lot better on television, and with straight-on shots of the doors instead of the side views.
Sorry, I'm just basically regurgitating what various people have said on here, but I really do like the new look.
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I do like the idea of lights installed in the doors, it's just that the logo being so small bothers me.
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I kinda like the doors, to be honest (and I know I'm going against two of my fellow WoFL's staffers, but hey :P). I think they were due an upgrade, but, while they were upgrading things, I think they should've change the giant price tag to match the doors. That should have been done 4 years ago, really...
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I kinda like the doors, to be honest (and I know I'm going against two of my fellow WoFL's staffers, but hey :P). I think they were due an upgrade, but, while they were upgrading things, I think they should've change the giant price tag to match the doors. That should have been done 4 years ago, really...
1) What's WoFL?
2) There was a similar discussion a few years ago when the doors were first changed to the square patterns, and it went something like this: "They should change the GPT too!" / "Why go to the expense to change something that's only seen on camera in full every once in a while?" That argument still holds water today, especially with money undoubtedly being spent on other set changes and "upgrades" that probably belongs in the prize budget.
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WoFL= Wheel of Fortune Lovers; staffers= Guint and cu2010
And, yes, I can easily see where their coming from on that side of the argument. It's only seen, what, once per show two or three times a week? I can see why they wouldn't want to sink a bunch of money into something not seen all the time.
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WoFL= Wheel of Fortune Lovers; staffers= Guint and cu2010
Yes, and if you go against a WoFL staffer on G-R you can be banned from WoFL, as per the convoluded rules. :)
And, yes, I can easily see where their coming from on that side of the argument. It's only seen, what, once per show two or three times a week? I can see why they wouldn't want to sink a bunch of money into something not seen all the time.
3x a week multiplied by... I'll just guess 36 weeks (~180 shows / 5 days a week, I know its not perfect math, but still) = 108 episodes, which is over 50% of shows, that's why they would want to sink money into it....
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If you're going to get technical about it, don't they still do the GPT shot during every show's closing? You could make the case that it's seen every single show. But even if it IS seen 3x a week, it's on camera for all of a few seconds each time (ditto for if you count the shot during the credits). That still doesn't seem to me to be worth worrying about to the extent of updating it every time they do a set change.
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I don't recall the logos being lit up or 3D when I went. Maybe I just missed it somehow, but I'm pretty sure the doors looked like this with the logo painted on. It could be another midseason change.
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I don't recall the logos being lit up or 3D when I went. Maybe I just missed it somehow, but I'm pretty sure the doors looked like this with the logo painted on. It could be another midseason change.
Possibly true.
It would be similar to how the early season 40 episodes didn't have the spinning dollar signs behind the audience or the "40 Years" Dollar Signs next to the doors.
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Not sure if I'm going crazy, but is the $100,000 Pay the Rent sign changed?
(http://p.twimg.com/AzJ9pzxCcAEWz5K.jpg:large)
It seems to me like the $ sign inparticular looks different, not a huge deal, and it's probably just the angle anyways.....
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Damn, would have been real sweet if it was destroyed.
If anything it looks more GREEN to me.
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the 100k sign still looks the same
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I must be blind. Where is this sign?
Cyclone
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Go to the price tag and to the left.
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Got it. Thanks. And no, looks the same to me at first glance.
Cyclone
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here's a look at door 3 (http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p562/alex_smith10/0801-PIR-set-3_ob.jpg) and here's a kinda of a good look at door #1 and #2 (http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p562/alex_smith10/0801-PIR-set_ob.jpg)
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I see the Big Wheel looks just as 3D as it always has.
Cyclone
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So, who is the new director this season?
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That looks really nice. The silver trim at the bottom makes it look classy.
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So, who is the new director this season?
A random nobody whose name CGJohn said in a post somewhere.
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A random nobody whose name CGJohn said in a post somewhere.
It's someone by the name of Ryan Polito
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It's someone by the name of Ryan Polito
Who?!?
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Who?!?
Ryan Polito.
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It was reported on buzzerblog http://buzzerblog.com/2012/06/new-director-in-for-price-is-rights-41st-season-this-fall/
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According to IMDb, as far as game shows go, Polito’s experience as a director amounts to directing early episodes of Minute to Win It. He has a multitude of other credits dating back to 2003 and they include TV awards shows, standup comedy specials for comedians like Jim Norton and Russell Brand, and music/variety specials for talents like Taylor Swift, Jimmy Buffett and Larry the Cable Guy. He’s done some work for some pretty big names, but his work in this specific genre so far is light. It’s always good to keep an open mind with these things. Some people held Rich DiPirro’s work on “dramatic” game shows against him, but he proved to be arguably the best director of the program in years.
I don't see DiPirro lightning striking twice.
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So, I didn't want to create a new thread for this because of spoilers, but here's a pic of the new doors. Forgive me if it's already been posted.
http://flashgameshows.com/wordpress/wp-content/pics/pricepic1.jpg
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So, I didn't want to create a new thread for this because of spoilers, but here's a pic of the new doors. Forgive me if it's already been posted.
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Yes, that looks familiar.
(http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/20939cbad8c511e18c26123138203b41_7.jpg)
Now this pic is cool! Looks like the logos on the doors light up... and shows how the dollar signs are attached... neat!
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More pics of Season 41 set at cbs.com.
http://www.cbs.com/shows/new_season_central/photos/153962/tca-daytime-studio-day/153963
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The 4th-to-last one... that is probably a still from its most-lit up point and it's blurry, but the logo does not mesh well with silver light-ups if that's the case.
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They were not so much images of the set as they were of the panel held AT the set. The Big Wheel hasn't changed. And yes, that one door shot was poor camera work.
Cyclone
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And yes, that one door shot was poor camera work.
Not at all, the focus of the camera was - as it should be - on the people, not the doors.
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Not at all, the focus of the camera was - as it should be - on the people, not the doors.
Exactly, but the glaring light behind it ruins the shot.
Cyclone
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Exactly, but the glaring light behind it ruins the shot.
Cyclone
Not really, I can see everybody fine.
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Not really, I can see everybody fine.
That wasn't what I meant.
Cyclone
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That wasn't what I meant.
Then what did you mean?
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Then what did you mean?
Do I really have to explain this?
The way the image of the logo in the middle of the shot detracts from the quality of the camera work, thus ruining the shot. No, the door was not the focus, I know that. However, one's eye is drawn to the blur where the light is so that the subjects of the shot are not the first thing one notices about the shot.
Photography students could take a better picture, basically.
Cyclone
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Really, guys? I are we arguing over a small glaring light behind the shot distracting people? I don't think that it will. Most people aren't cared about stuff like that; they tune in to watch the game. Yes, I notice set changes and various other changes that have been made, but my main purpose in watching is to see the game (and the models...). :P It's not going to make a difference because we can't change what's already been done. In six months, we'll forget all about this and be used to the changes by then...
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Really, guys? I are we arguing over a small glaring light behind the shot distracting people? I don't think that it will. Most people aren't cared about stuff like that; they tune in to watch the game. Yes, I notice set changes and various other changes that have been made, but my main purpose in watching is to see the game (and the models...). :P It's not going to make a difference because we can't change what's already been done. In six months, we'll forget all about this and be used to the changes by then...
Now my comments are being taken out of context another way. I was referring to that individual picture that was already taken, not the next six months of broadcasting. In video, it wouldn't be so bad, and I'm sure the television camera angles are carefully calculated.
Cyclone
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I would think that, barring actually being ineligible by the rules, it would matter far less what websites you run or contribute to than whether you come across as obsessive.
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This has kinda become the S41 thread I guess, so here's something else from Daniel's twitter:
(http://c0014459.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_e43c8a6)
I'm glad this text will only be around one week. You can also see how bright the doors' logo are.
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It's common for the first week of shows to have that kind of marker on them. I just hope they remembered to take it off for the 6th taping that week.
Cyclone
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It's common for the first week of shows to have that kind of marker on them.
...Pretty sure Wayoshi knows that...
I just hope they remembered to take it off for the 6th taping that week.
Out of curiosity, was there an incident when they forgot to?
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...Pretty sure Wayoshi knows that...
Out of curiosity, was there an incident when they forgot to?
Sorry, am I being too obvious again? :P
Cyclone