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Title: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: vadernader on May 02, 2012, 02:00:06 PM
The Price is Right Recap - 5/2/2011

Episode #5953K
Aired: 5/2/2012; Tape Date 4/9/2012
Models: Amber Lancaster, Rachel Reynolds, Daniel Goddard
Drew Entrance: Door #2
Mic Handoff: Amber
First Four Contestant Seating: Mixed (4,1,3,2)

First IUFB: Home Theater System (Paradigm Cinema; ARP: $999) (Rachel)

JOSHUA KIMBERLY LINDA JOSHUA WINNER
$1 $750 $1100 $699 KIMBERLY

Kimberly is playing Switch?

ITEM DISPLAY GUESS ARP RESULT
Pair of 32" LED-LCD HDTV's (Daniel) $1900 SWITCH $800 $800 *WIN*
Pair of 13" Sony Vaio Laptops (500GB HDD) (Amber) $800 $1900 $1900

ARP: *$2,700*

Second IUFB: 18kt Yellow Gold Cognac Ring (Tacori; ARP: $730) (Rachel)

Joshua BESS Linda Joshua WINNER
$1 $1200 $1475 $1500 JOSHUA

Joshua is playing Flip Flop for a Trip to Atlanta. (RT Coach LA To Atlanta, 5n Lowe's Atlanta Hotel, Daily Lunch, Dinner 1 Evening, Tickets for Atlanta Jazz Festival) (Amber)

ORIGINAL 53 46
GUESS 35 46
ARP 53 64
ARP: $5,364 LOSS

Third IUFB: Collection of Camcorders (2 8GB / 2 16GB; ARP: $758) (Overhead Platform)

STEPHANIE Bess Linda Joshua WINNER
$800 $650 $1100 $750 LINDA

Linda is playing Rat Race.

FIRST PRIZE 1955 Buick Century Riviera Hardtop Coupe (Power Steering, Power Breaks) (Daniel)
SECOND PRIZE 30" Electric Range (Elmira Stove Works) (Amber)
THIRD PRIZE 26pc Collection of Kitchen Appliances (Amber)

Item guesses (Rachel)

MARGIN ITEM GUESS ARP RESULT
$1 Cheeze-It Crackers (13.7oz) $1.50 $4.49 WRONG
$10 Stainless Steel Egg Boiler $40 $22 WRONG
$100 Upright Vacuum $120 $300 WIPEOUT

And thus, no Race :(

SCSD #1

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL
Joshua $730 50 25 75
Linda $758 30^ 55 *SHOWCASE*
Kimberly $3,699 5 50 55

Fourth IUFB: VocoPro Recording Artist 300 Karaoke System (ARP: $2,138) (Daniel and Amber)

Stephanie Bess PEGGY Joshua WINNER
$900 $1 $845 $1000 JOSHUA

Joshua is playing Step Up.

FIRST ITEM 4pr Miu Miu Shoes (Amber) $2,340 ---
SECOND ITEM 9' Shuffleboard Table (Amber) $630 LOSS
THIRD ITEM Spinning Bicycle (Rachel) $4,895 Excuse Me?
LAST ITEM All-in-One Washer/Dryer (Rachel) $1,475  

...Yes, $4,895 for a Generic "Spinning Bicycle" Who knew?

Fifth IUFB: La-Z-Boy Demi Sofa (ARP: $649) (Rachel and Daniel)

Stephanie Bess Peggy JOSEPH WINNER
$1200 $1300 $700 $990 OVER
$500 $550 $501 $670 BESS

Bess, who is on her honeymoon, is playing Pick-a-Pair for Flowers (Teleflora), Movie Tickets (Fandango), and Groceries (1 Person) for a Year (ARP: $5,371) (Rachel)


ITEMS Gatorade Orange (32oz) Bisquik
(40oz)
Dove Beauty Bar Smuckers Chocolate Syrup French's French Fried Onions Ziplock Storage Bags (20ct)
GUESS 1
WRONG
$1.59     $2.69 
 
GUESS 2
*WIN*
$1.59   $1.59     

Sixth IUFB: PSP Game Package (2 Consoles, 2 Starter Kits, 10 Games; ARP: $670) (Amber)

Stephanie KYLIE Peggy Joseph WINNER
$1 $1200 $1500 $1100 STEPHANIE

Stephanie is playing That's Too Much! for a Dodge Ram 1500ST 4x2 Regular Cab (3.7L, A/T) (Rachel and Daniel)


$20,442 $21,115 $22,960 $23,891 $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $
  ARP: $22,470 LOSS            

SCSD #2

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL
Stephanie $670 35 40 75
Joshua $2,138 65 85 OVER
Bess $6,020 50 50 *$1,000!*

Bonus...

Contestant Winnings Spin Result
Bess $17,020 15 *$10,000!*

SHOWCASE ROUND
Bess has the honor...

SC1 - LINDA INNER PEACE TRIP/SAILBOAT
BID: $27,000 India (RT Coach LA To New Delhi, 6n Luxury Hotel, Spa Experience) (Rachel)
Catalina Capri 22 Sailboat (Stern Mounted Boarding Ladder, Outboard Bracket, Galley, Trailer) (Amber)
ARP: $36,803
DIFF: $9,803
LOSS $758
SC2 - BESS RAISE YOUR SPIRITS & ALTITUDE TRIPS/JEEP
BID: $35,000 Grand Canyon (RT Coach LA To Flagstaff, 6n Rustic Lodge, 2 Tickets to Skywalk Bridge) (Amber)
Ireland (RT Coach LA To Dublin, 6n Shelbourne Dublin, Consultation with Geneology Expert, 1hr Hot Air Balloon Ride, Champagne Brunch) (Amber)
Jeep Wrangler Sport 4x4 (3.6L V6, SunRider Soft Top) (Daniel)
ARP: $37,746
DIFF: $2,746
*WIN* $54,766

Show Results: 2 out of 6
Total Winnings: $62,761

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Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Wayoshi on May 02, 2012, 02:06:37 PM
Oof...

...Again, Switch for LESS THAN 3K OF STUFF WHAT THE HECK (not that this is bad, but this is just... wow in the Mike era) ... and it's fairly difficult. Makes no sense.

Rat (kinda tough setup and bad player) and Step (way too difficult a setup, please just let the players play this game) definitely killed this one. Even if they were played well, them 3-4 made for an awkward lineup.

I still have no clue what that skateboard rabbi thing was about. I assumed he was joking about his unemployment, then Drew joked about it while not explaining anything further.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: GSB92 on May 02, 2012, 02:33:17 PM
A good lineup with crappy results.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: elskunkoman on May 02, 2012, 02:35:01 PM
Rat race should had at least 1 rat won. And step up was difficult.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Torgo on May 02, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
That spinning bicycle definitely had some fancy electronics in it.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Bobby McBride on May 02, 2012, 02:39:41 PM
S?: Bizarre playing because of the cheapness of the prizes, but at least it was won thanks to going on gut instinct.

Flip-Flop: Meant to be won, but wasn't.

Rat: I'm not sure if Mike wanted this won anyway, but at least vadernader's relieved not to have to go searching for the ARPs of those featured prizes.

SU: I knew Joshua A. was toast when he chose the shuffleboard table second.

PaP: Almost had the second loss in a row in this game after a long winning streak.

TTM: Considering Stephanie was honest she didn't know how to price trucks, she played this quite well. Too bad she just missed because the jump between the second & third prices was a little big too big.

SCSD #2: First Bonus Spin win of any kind since mid-February!

Showcases: Bess became the third-highest winner on the show to date in 2012 w/ an all-around good game- nice!

Not quite as good as yesterday's episode, but still OK.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: shell_game on May 02, 2012, 03:23:36 PM
Having the contestants wear microphones was particularly distracting today.  I was happy for Bess and I was happy that she was enthusiastic.  But I didn't need to hear her shrill shrieks so loudly, so clearly, or for so long today.  It was irritating, and I actually felt bad for her because they did this to her.  Even during the closing credits, it just came across as odd.

Again, I'm not blaming her, I enjoyed her as a contestant and was happy for her outcome today.  But decisions that the production crew is making should not detract from that.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: htmlcc92 on May 02, 2012, 03:29:58 PM
The contestant playing Rat Race should have gotten, in my thinking, two rats at least. The cheese snacks and the egg boiler were pretty easy prices to guess in my opinion.

I also thought that they left too much of Bess's screaming in. It is kind of annoying in the first place when they are screaming, but to have like a minute straight of screaming. That's too much!
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Kirsten Vaccaro on May 02, 2012, 03:49:28 PM
Today show was okay i don't like it when the contestants scream it gets so annoying.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: sideshowPA on May 02, 2012, 04:34:05 PM
I don't post often in the recaps, but I have to say that today's show pretty much demonstrated everything that is wrong with the show these days.

- Both Joshuas in contestant's row were quite annoying.  It's one thing to look for and "cast" colorful contestants.  It's another to find people who clearly have no real intention of being part of the game.  $1 for the first bid....really rabbi?
- Is it even worth trying to explain how agonizing dumb it is to guess $120 for the last prize in Rat Race?  I predict that the pricing aspect of this game will become True/False for next year.
- A prize worth $800 was offered in Swtich?  Just how bad is that budget Mikey?
- Has any contestant ever been truly excited by the Flowers/Maids/Groceries/Mani Pedis prize combos?
- Take note...the first new car offered today was not until Pricing Game #6.  That's just weird and uninspired.
- A trip to India and a boat. 

Today show was okay i don't like it when the contestants scream it gets so annoying.

yep.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: leafsfan17 on May 02, 2012, 04:51:55 PM
There should have been at least one rat won in Rat Race
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Kev347 on May 02, 2012, 05:02:02 PM
Today was just one of those days that illustrated everything that's wrong with the current direction of the show, particularly the contestant selection process. Unfortunately, when contestants are miked, and you make a bad contestant selection, the consequences are a lot more widespread than they would be otherwise. And Drew just eats it up, sigh. I have faith that Stan will be back on top of things tomorrow, though.

And after a day of fair setups yesterday, why was everything either plainly hard or super easy today? There is no reason to make Step hard. And you may as well offer $13,000 cars in Rat and set them up to be won rather than offer restored cars that you can't afford because you don't even have to say the value of the prize!

Timings:
Switch? (3.5) - 3:20
Flip Flop (3.5) - 4:09
Rat Race (6) - 5:08
Step Up (5.5) - 4:07
Pick A Pair (4.5) - 4:56
That's Too Much (5) - 3:19
Total (28): 24:59

Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Cartboy on May 02, 2012, 05:47:02 PM
Switch?, Pick A Pair:  Nice wins! :-)
Rat Race, Step Up:  Horribly played! :-(
SCSD#2:  It was nice to see Bess win $10,000 on her Bonus Spin, and yet at the same time I'm a little bummed because of how close she came to winning $25,000.

An "ehhhh" show overall, IMHO.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: thepriceis_J on May 02, 2012, 05:55:32 PM
Nice Switch? win. I thought it was fairly reasonable. I like the cheapo prize packages recently. Takes the ease off the trip overload we had a few months back.

Really audience, really? $3,000 for a trip across the country? Come on now. Yall know better than that.

Even my parents knew that $120 was not a good guess in Rat Race and they don't watch the show regularly. Oh well.

Step Up....let's just move on. Reasonable to underprice the shoes and overvalue the shuffleboard table. :-(

Glad to see Pick-A-Pair is back to it's winning ways.  :-D

Same old That's Too Much. Aw. I kind of liked the double reveal from Rachel and Daniel.

Man, if this episode hasn't solidified Daniel's role as part-time model, I don't know what can.

Hi completely ludicrous showcases.

EDIT: Is there really absolutely no time at all this week for CNAOS? Or has the show said it is pointless now?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Wayoshi on May 02, 2012, 05:56:58 PM
- Is it even worth trying to explain how agonizing dumb it is to guess $120 for the last prize in Rat Race?  I predict that the pricing aspect of this game will become True/False for next year.
If Mike can get away with more losses, no change "needs" to be made. Besides, it hasn't been that bad this season (although that item has often been 1xx to force a right SP).
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: SteveGavazzi on May 02, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
So.  Joshua.  What the hell?  I thought he came off as a massive show-off, and I have no idea why any of what Drew was laughing at about him was supposed to be funny.  I can honestly say I'm glad he didn't win anything besides his Item up for Bids.

Linda, on the other hand, seemed like a very nice person, but holy God was she bad at pricing.  That was an utterly dismal playing of Rat Race (with an utterly dismal choice of cars, appropriately enough), and Drew completely stopped hosting the moment she made her last bid.

What was with Switch? offering two pairs of prizes?  I'm not complaining -- it's just weird.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Shaymin on May 02, 2012, 07:03:57 PM
Switch: Sony laptops are overpriced as heck and I'm pretty sure I have the same TV from when it was $579. Pretty much a forced win as soon as they said "Sony".

Rat Race: Do the contesti not realize that bidding $1xx on the last price means you think it could be sub-$100? I don't recall seeing anything below $225 for the last prize... and it's too bad they didn't run the race.

Step Up: $4900 exercise bike? Does it come with a port for, ahem, other forms of workouts?

Pick-a-Pair: If I'd been playing, the game would be 11-2 now.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: stardf29 on May 02, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Sheesh, they must have been serving extra-strong coffee the day of this taping date! I think only the first and last contestants didn't annoy me...

Only $2,800 worth of prizes for Switch? Wow. And I thought sub-$4K was cheap for this era...

Flip-Flop was an easy win which Joshua #1 and Co. managed to make into an aggravating loss.

Meanwhile, Linda really bombed Rat Race; not only did she miss all three items, but she missed them all by a lot!

Step Up was hard, though I knew the bike was going to be expensive (must be that LED screen). The real problem here is that this game requires that a good base prize is easily picked out... and the base prize today was a deceptively-cheap shuffleboard table. In other words, horrible setup.

I thought Bess knew how to lose Pick-a-Pair, but the soap turned out to be a cheap one. Go figure.  :P All in all, Bess did extremely well, not to mention she's our first person to win big money on the Wheel in a long time!

Stephanie played That's Three Much! comparatively well... just not well enough.

And someone please check the coffee around Studio 33...
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: whinbaby on May 03, 2012, 12:14:47 AM
The 7,647th episode (155th for Season 40)

Showcase #1
My bid:  $37,000 (D'oh!  I'm over by $197!)

Showcase #2
My bid:  $38,656 (D'oh!)

Modeling Totals:  May 2, 2012's episode
Rachel Reynolds
Total:  12/$46,222.49 (5/$4,502.00, 7/$41,720.49)
Cars:  1/$22,470.00 (0/$0.00, 1/$22,470.00)
Trips:  1/$12,554.00 (0/$0.00, 1/$12,554.00)
Cash Prizes:  0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)

Amber Lancaster
Total:  13/$61,438.00 (7/$24,160.00, 6/$37,278.00)
Cars:  0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
Trips:  3/$20,165.00 (2/$14,801.00, 1/$5,364.00)
Cash Prizes:  0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)

Daniel Goddard
Total:  6/$73,502.00 (4/$26,532.00, 2/$46,970.00)
Cars:  3 :pint: :pint: :pint:/$69,915.00 (1/$22,945.00, 2/$46,970.00)
Trips:  0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
Cash Prizes:  0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)

Goddard did it again, and we have a new record:  $73,502!

All Prizes
Total:  28/$155,259.49 (14/$51,761.00, 14/$103,498.49)
Cars:  3/$69,915.00 (1/$22,945.00, 2/$46,970.00)
Trips:  4/$32,719.00 (2/$14,801.00, 2/$17,918.00)
Cash Prizes:  0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)

Season to date
Rachel Reynolds (136 shows)
Total:  1,273/$6,415,784.03 (765/$2,676,937.98, 508/$3,738,846.05)
Cars:  134/$2,808,852.00 (42/$837,155.00, 92/$1,971,697.00)
Trips:  131/$1,082,461.20 (71/$539,397.20, 60/$543,064.00)
Cash Prizes:  16/$183,924.00 (3/$44,000.00, 13/$139,924.00)

Amber Lancaster (99 shows)
Total:  801/$4,937,643.00 (472/$2,034,608.00, 329/$2,903,035.00)
Cars:  99/$2,092,371.00 (33/$689,314.00, 66/$1,403,057.00)
Trips:  103/$795,508.00 (48/$372,822.00, 55/$422,686.00)
Cash Prizes:  24/$344,777.00 (4/$40,627.00, 20/$304,150.00)

Daniel Goddard (10 shows)
Total:  47/$333,561.00 (32/$154,923.00, 15/$178,638.00)
Cars:  7/$152,265.00 (3/$60,185.00, 4/$92,080.00)
Trips:  4/$32,826.00 (4/$32,826.00, 0/$0.00)
Cash Prizes:  0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)

All Prizes (154 shows)
Total:  4,078/$24,227,390.86 (2,419/$9,833,226.52, 1,659/$14,394,164.34)
Cars:  459/$9,709,514.00 (154/$3,215,196.00, 305/$6,494,318.00)
Trips:  503/$4,169,778.20 (272/$2,186,321.20, 231/$1,983,457.00)
Cash Prizes:  128/$3,037,362.00 (27/$429,059.00, 101/$2,608,303.00)
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: MrPlinko on May 03, 2012, 01:18:19 AM
Today was just one of those days that illustrated everything that's wrong with the current direction of the show, particularly the contestant selection process. Unfortunately, when contestants are miked, and you make a bad contestant selection, the consequences are a lot more widespread than they would be otherwise. And Drew just eats it up, sigh. I have faith that Stan will be back on top of things tomorrow, though.

And after a day of fair setups yesterday, why was everything either plainly hard or super easy today? There is no reason to make Step hard. And you may as well offer $13,000 cars in Rat and set them up to be won rather than offer restored cars that you can't afford because you don't even have to say the value of the prize!

Timings:
Switch? (3.5) - 3:20
Flip Flop (3.5) - 4:09
Rat Race (6) - 5:08
Step Up (5.5) - 4:07
Pick A Pair (4.5) - 4:56
That's Too Much (5) - 3:19
Total (28): 24:59

I agree 100%!

And the first Rat Rice price to price should be almost a given at all times.  If you can't even see the rats race, it's like no bonus chips in Plinko.  Rat Race is so fun and so cute to play!  However, it brings a damper on the whole show when it is wiped out like that.

Joe
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: BRB_TheFireball on May 03, 2012, 09:12:33 AM
One minute into the show and I could tell already that Joshua would be a total chadhole.

And as if my day of TPIR couldn't get any worse... go away, Daniel Goddard!

Cheapo Switch again.  Seriously... $800?!

Rat Race wasn't evil.  Linda's guesses were just... dumb.

So I wasn't dreaming.  That exercise bike in Step Up really was $4,895.  Come on, Mike... this game is already hard enough to win.

That's Too Third!

My showcase bids:
:frbs: --$35,107
Jeep--$32,107
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 03, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
Linda, on the other hand, seemed like a very nice person, but holy God was she bad at pricing.  That was an utterly dismal playing of Rat Race (with an utterly dismal choice of cars, appropriately enough), and Drew completely stopped hosting the moment she made her last bid.

So what's so bad about being offered a chance to win a 1955 Buick Century? I think many people would be glad.

What car would YOU have offered then, Steve? (Besides a piece-of-junk econocar they usually offer in this game?)

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Wayoshi on May 03, 2012, 11:01:15 AM
So what's so bad about being offered a chance to win a 1955 Buick Century? I think many people would be glad.

What car would YOU have offered then, Steve? (Besides a piece-of-junk econocar they usually offer in this game?)
Something they could actually drive freely instead of being a collectible.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: goldroadfanatic on May 03, 2012, 11:05:07 AM
So what's so bad about being offered a chance to win a 1955 Buick Century? I think many people would be glad.

For one thing, a contestant is more likely to be excited about a new car, rather than a restored one.  Also, there are issues with living with a classic car (including upkeeping it, finding spare parts for it, driving it, and insuring it).
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 03, 2012, 11:47:07 AM
Something they could actually drive freely instead of being a collectible.

For one thing, a contestant is more likely to be excited about a new car, rather than a restored one.  Also, there are issues with living with a classic car (including upkeeping it, finding spare parts for it, driving it, and insuring it).

That's all well and good, but I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. There are certain "classic" cars I would just love to own ... and to heck of whether I could drive it "every day." I've got a car that fits that bill. I'm sure with most of the contestants, it's the same. Besides, it's better for a 24-year-old college student (who probably knows more about and respects a classic car than most of us think or want to admit) to drive a 1963 Chevrolet Corvette, for instance, than some POS 1989 Honda Civic with those loud mufflers and rap crap coming from the poorly-installed 1000-megawatt stereo.

If you don't want the car, refuse it, take a cash equivalent – or (better yet) give it to grandpa, who probably loves classic cars anyway.

FWIW – this debate about offering classic cars as a prize only seems to apply to Drew Carey-hosted TPiR. Never mind that there were replicas of classic cars back on the Dennis James version (even with the different era/demographic of contestants) and during the shopping era of "Wheel of Fortune," and an actual 1948 Ford convertible offered as a prize in 1984 on "Sale of the Century."

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: joacen on May 03, 2012, 04:13:57 PM
I have to say, with George's introduction to the truck, hardly anyone in NJ speaks like that. Maybe up in Jersey City, near NYC, but that accent is more NYC. I don't know why he introduces prizes with that Italian-NY-whatever-it-is accent when an NJ contestant comes up. I haven't met anyone here that speaks like that. Just thought I'd put that out there.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: BRB_TheFireball on May 03, 2012, 06:24:44 PM
FWIW – this debate about offering classic cars as a prize only seems to apply to Drew Carey-hosted TPiR. Never mind that there were replicas of classic cars back on the Dennis James version (even with the different era/demographic of contestants) and during the shopping era of "Wheel of Fortune," and an actual 1948 Ford convertible offered as a prize in 1984 on "Sale of the Century."

And there was also the 1937 Rolls-Royce that appeared on a famous 1974 episode of The New Treasure Hunt that aired on GSN a few years ago.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: SteveGavazzi on May 03, 2012, 09:04:53 PM
That's all well and good, but I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. There are certain "classic" cars I would just love to own ... and to heck of whether I could drive it "every day."

Fine...and if you want to offer it as a novelty prize, I would grudgingly admit that it might be alright.  But to offer a 57-year-old automobile as one half's actual car game?  No.

FWIW – this debate about offering classic cars as a prize only seems to apply to Drew Carey-hosted TPiR. Never mind that there were replicas of classic cars back on the Dennis James version (even with the different era/demographic of contestants)

Did it count as the day's car game?  If it did, I would cite it as further evidence of my belief that Jay Wolpert understood the show better than Frank Wayne did.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 03, 2012, 11:21:14 PM
Fine...and if you want to offer it as a novelty prize, I would grudgingly admit that it might be alright.  But to offer a 57-year-old automobile as one half's actual car game?  No.

Did it count as the day's car game?  If it did, I would cite it as further evidence of my belief that Jay Wolpert understood the show better than Frank Wayne did.

To you, it may matter. To me, it doesn't.

For the record, the classic car replicars I've heard from j-shea's website seemed to indicate at least one was an IUFB, meaning less than $1,500, while one of the Retro TPiR summaries -- one I posted, in fact -- was of a full-scale Mercedes-Benz from a showcase. At least the cars offered during the regular games were worth winning, not some POS Kia or Huyndai or Toyota microcar.

I guess my final take is -- Rat Race doesn't require pricing a car; it's just a game that probably 99 percent of the time will offer a car as a grand prize; the rest of the time (hasn't happened, yet) will probably be a boat or Harley Davidson motorcycle. I might be uneasy, however, if a 1955 Buick hardtop were offered in a game like Any Number or Card Game, etc., where pricing is the key objective.

BTW -- please don't label classic cars as a "novelty" prize. I know several classic car owners, and they take these items VERY seriously. (Maybe not some in the major demographics of TPiR contestants, but many others do.) Just make my car factory stock, appearing just as it did the day she left the factory.

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: SteveGavazzi on May 04, 2012, 12:20:36 AM
I know several classic car owners, and they take these items VERY seriously.

I'd be willing to bet good money, though, that every single one of them went out of his way to acquire said car and did not just happen to win it on a game show.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 04, 2012, 08:57:03 AM
I'd be willing to bet good money, though, that every single one of them went out of his way to acquire said car and did not just happen to win it on a game show.

No kidding!

Look, you and I are just going to have to disagree on offering classic cars as a prize. Besides, I think it was you who said many times that you didn't like it when Drew mocks the prizes (e.g., the small prizes of Switcheroo) but yet, it's OK when we do.

If we all are going to talk the talk, we're going to have to walk the walk – that is, if it's not OK for Drew to do something, it ought not be OK for us to engage in the same behavior.

Again, if the contestant doesn't like the prize, he/she can refuse it or take a cash substitute.

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: GuyWithFace on May 04, 2012, 12:36:18 PM
If you don't want the car, refuse it, take a cash equivalent – or (better yet) give it to grandpa, who probably loves classic cars anyway.
Again, if the contestant doesn't like the prize, he/she can refuse it or take a cash substitute.
Problem: contestants do not get to choose whether to take a cash substitute. Only the show can substitute anything for its cash equivalent; otherwise, the player must either take or forfeit any or all prizes won.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 04, 2012, 02:51:01 PM
Problem: contestants do not get to choose whether to take a cash substitute. Only the show can substitute anything for its cash equivalent; otherwise, the player must either take or forfeit any or all prizes won.

Well then ... refuse the prize and accept the fact you had a bunch of fun ...

or take it and sell it off. I'm sure that a classic 1955 Buick is worth way more than $15,500.

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Wayoshi on May 04, 2012, 03:22:52 PM
^Still, a car that's more likely to be sold than whatever current-age car (even a luxury one) defeats the purpose of the car game.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: SteveGavazzi on May 04, 2012, 08:03:39 PM
Besides, I think it was you who said many times that you didn't like it when Drew mocks the prizes (e.g., the small prizes of Switcheroo) but yet, it's OK when we do.

We aren't on national television hosting the show.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 04, 2012, 11:15:26 PM
We aren't on national television hosting the show.

While that may be true, I still think we ought to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: SteveGavazzi on May 05, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
While that may be true, I still think we ought to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

If you can't see that there's a significant difference between watching a show and hosting it, I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to try to have a discussion with you.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 06, 2012, 05:14:57 PM
If you can't see that there's a significant difference between watching a show and hosting it, I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to try to have a discussion with you.

Here we go again. Sigh ... !

I don't think there's any point, either, in continuing this discussion since I can't seem to convince you that when we get annoyed – right or wrong – with Drew or others about various things about the show, that we ought to strive not to do the same thing. Otherwise, when we complain about Drew mocking a small prize in Switcheroo (for instance) but then we complain about the show offering a classic car ... it makes us no better. Doesn't matter to me, IMO, that we're just fans and they're just putting on some fleeting show and isn't the end of the world if they make a mistake.

This isn't the Cuban Missile Crisis or brain surgery or anything else that's close to it.

So I give up. You win, and let's just drop it.

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: GuyWithFace on May 07, 2012, 03:13:02 AM
I can't seem to convince you that when we get annoyed – right or wrong – with Drew or others about various things about the show, that we ought to strive not to do the same thing. Otherwise, when we complain about Drew mocking a small prize in Switcheroo (for instance) but then we complain about the show offering a classic car ... it makes us no better.
I do believe that what Steve is trying to say is that we are fans, so the sponsors of Price will typically not know about our comments (and further, we are not mocking the prizes themselves so much as mocking the show for using such things). Drew mocking prizes, on the other hand, is noticed because it is being done on (national) television, and hence puts those sponsors in a bad light even if they did not actually provide the items in question; his smashing groceries is far worse, as he has done it with sponsored items as well.

We are not going on television (or product-review sites, for that matter) to mock prizes or smash groceries; Drew is.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 07, 2012, 09:07:20 AM
I do believe that what Steve is trying to say is that we are fans, so the sponsors of Price will typically not know about our comments (and further, we are not mocking the prizes themselves so much as mocking the show for using such things). Drew mocking prizes, on the other hand, is noticed because it is being done on (national) television, and hence puts those sponsors in a bad light even if they did not actually provide the items in question; his smashing groceries is far worse, as he has done it with sponsored items as well.

We are not going on television (or product-review sites, for that matter) to mock prizes or smash groceries; Drew is.

I don't disagree with the fact that "we are fans" and can comment. While I don't have any statistics at hand, I would bet $100 that product sponsors, etc. DO read these boards for what we have to say. Watching the show and hearing what Drew Carey has to say about a given product – positive or negative – is hardly the only source.

More than likely, they pay people to read anything and everything where their products ARE and MIGHT BE talked about, including these forums.

Why do I say this? I work in the newspaper industry, and there are companies that have certain "contacts" that read newspapers just to see what writers and others are saying about their products ... and more importantly, to make sure that – if their name is trademarked – it is properly spelled and/or used. At one newspaper I worked for, my boss said he once got a nasty letter (hard to say if it was for that particular newspaper or another one) from the folks who created Scrabble ... a reporter had used a lower case "s" (to make it "scrabble").

Same is true for these boards.

As far as "mocking the show" – what? Why NOT be different, rather than give away the same prizes – refrigerators and micro-compact Kias/Huyndais – all the time? Sure, those prizes are always staples that should be offered, but once in awhile, be different. And if it's not been said before: Yes, I do support TPiR for offering classic cars. Some of the rest don't. Fine. And FTR – I'd think most people would go on TPiR to win cash, maybe a trip or a bigger car, for instance.

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: GuyWithFace on May 07, 2012, 11:05:51 AM
While I don't have any statistics at hand, I would bet $100 that product sponsors, etc. DO read these boards for what we have to say.
The only "official" entity I am aware of is Price staff.

Same is true for these boards.
Again, you were referring to a line of work (a newspaper/company, in this case). This is a fan site, which does not work for-profit nor is any sort of official entity. Neither Hasbro nor Fremantle will sue us for badmouthing Scrabble, for example.

As far as "mocking the show" – what? Why NOT be different, rather than give away the same prizes – refrigerators and micro-compact Kias/Huyndais – all the time? Sure, those prizes are always staples that should be offered, but once in awhile, be different.
The problem is that, for about a season or two after the perfect Showcase bid of Season 37 (itself caused by giving away "the same prizes", which in turn caused several staffers to panic and blame this site), almost every prize tried to be different...such as home photo booths.

The only prizes that are regularly mocked on this site are the trips for their vagueness, addition of amenities specifically so they are hard to price, and choice of destinations (including inside California). Or the time "ten massages at a spa of your choice" was part of a Pick-A-Number prize and the player had to pick the last digit. (I have nothing against using classic cars for a three-car day, and I do applaud them for not going the route of "1970s Ford Pinto".)

You were also mistaken when you said "give away prizes", as the show rarely does that these days outside of Showcases and the prizes are more there just to look nice -- the same principle is why Pay The Rent exists.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 07, 2012, 12:39:10 PM
Again, you were referring to a line of work (a newspaper/company, in this case). This is a fan site, which does not work for-profit nor is any sort of official entity. Neither Hasbro nor Fremantle will sue us for badmouthing Scrabble, for example.

You misread – the reporter was not badmouthing the board game Scrabble ... he was erroneously using a lower-case letter in reference to the game. And agreed, nobody will sue us for badmouthing their game ... except that in this "sue happy" day and age, you can never be too sure.

The problem is that, for about a season or two after the perfect Showcase bid of Season 37 (itself caused by giving away "the same prizes", which in turn caused several staffers to panic and blame this site), almost every prize tried to be different...such as home photo booths.

Why go back to the infamous "perfect Showcase" bid episode? That's dead and gone. (Big deal anymore that Drew didn't get hyped up and scream like the contestant discovered the cure for cancer or won $10 billion in Mega Millions like all of us agree ad nauseum he should have. I'm sick of hearing about it.) If it were me, I'd forget that episode and go about the daily production of the show – water under the bridge.

The only prizes that are regularly mocked on this site are the trips for their vagueness, addition of amenities specifically so they are hard to price, and choice of destinations (including inside California). Or the time "ten massages at a spa of your choice" was part of a Pick-A-Number prize and the player had to pick the last digit. (I have nothing against using classic cars for a three-car day, and I do applaud them for not going the route of "1970s Ford Pinto".)

While I agree that the trips could be more specific, why not add amenities to the prize, rather than expect the contestant to pay for it out of their own pocket? And I'm not talking about the amenities that are mocked but but routine things, such as maybe a $300-per-day cash allowance to shop, or $200-per-day allowance for meals, etc. Why NOT spoil the contestant that won the prize?

The "10 massages at a spa of your choice" – I agree this was a very poor choice of prize for Pick-A-Number; the prize is OK, but they clearly should have used another prize for this game ... as well as a setup where you're not picking the last number. FWIW: The only time I can justify the last number as the number to pick is if the prize is a new Cadillac and/or $1 million is also up for grabs.

You were also mistaken when you said "give away prizes", as the show rarely does that these days outside of Showcases and the prizes are more there just to look nice -- the same principle is why Pay The Rent exists.

So what does this statement have to do with the discussion? What I'm speaking of is about whether the show should offer classic cars as prizes – and you and I at least agree we're not against it – not about the poor win-loss ratio of shows these days.

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: GuyWithFace on May 07, 2012, 01:14:20 PM
You misread – the reporter was not badmouthing the board game Scrabble ... he was erroneously using a lower-case letter in reference to the game.
Then I humbly apologize, sir.

Why go back to the infamous "perfect Showcase" bid episode? That's dead and gone. ... If it were me, I'd forget that episode and go about the daily production of the show – water under the bridge.
Partly because it was where all the current problems with the show began. Drew brought the incident up in a recent interview for "Pop My Culture" and badmouthed this site in so many ways.

While I agree that the trips could be more specific, why not add amenities to the prize, rather than expect the contestant to pay for it out of their own pocket? And I'm not talking about the amenities that are mocked but but routine things, such as maybe a $300-per-day cash allowance to shop, or $200-per-day allowance for meals, etc. Why NOT spoil the contestant that won the prize?
I agree in principle, but sometimes the cash "allowance" is added solely to prop up a low-value/two-prize Showcase. As for the per-day cash allowance, 1) some trips are just 1-3 days and/or 2) the cash is something like $1,000 altogether, which would not do much in, say, New York.

Again, I agree on spoiling the contestant, but if they are going to do so...could they at least give them First Class seats on the flights? Coach is the lowest grade of travel.

So what does this statement have to do with the discussion? What I'm speaking of is about whether the show should offer classic cars as prizes – and you and I at least agree we're not against it – not about the poor win-loss ratio of shows these days.
It was a joke regarding what you had said. Disregard it. :-)
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 07, 2012, 03:46:54 PM
Partly because it was where all the current problems with the show began. Drew brought the incident up in a recent interview for "Pop My Culture" and badmouthed this site in so many ways.

And I thought all the show's problems began with the infamous "fried chicken" Showcase. Honestly, everyone – Drew included – need to let that incident be in the past. It happened, it aired ... nothing that can be done about it to fix it. It isn't the end of the world that the contestant wasn't congratulated like he brought peace to the world. Move on.

Again, I agree on spoiling the contestant, but if they are going to do so...could they at least give them First Class seats on the flights? Coach is the lowest grade of travel.

Well then of course let him First Class!!!!

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Flerbert419 on May 08, 2012, 10:29:49 AM
Honestly, everyone – Drew included – need to let that incident be in the past. It happened, it aired ... nothing that can be done about it to fix it. It isn't the end of the world that the contestant wasn't congratulated like he brought peace to the world. Move on.

This isn't why the incident is continually brought up (though Drew did a poor job).

It represents the single turning point for prize selection and what has driven such strange items and tacked on upgrades to trips for the last few seasons.

The fear of somebody "ruining" the show has overwhelmed the staff to the point that they can sometimes only muster up two unique prizes for showcases.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: Briguy on May 08, 2012, 11:18:43 AM
This isn't why the incident is continually brought up (though Drew did a poor job).

It represents the single turning point for prize selection and what has driven such strange items and tacked on upgrades to trips for the last few seasons.

The fear of somebody "ruining" the show has overwhelmed the staff to the point that they can sometimes only muster up two unique prizes for showcases.

So, a Jump the Shark moment, eh?

Let me ask you all something – suppose we have another one of those showcases, the ones with say, a vintage car and a vacation to Timbuktu with all sorts of "tacked on" extras. Then ... gasp, as astronomical the possibility is ... someone happens to bid the exact price on that showcase. Whether by luck or by skill, the price is exactly correct.

What then, brown cow?

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: catdogwheel on May 08, 2012, 06:34:52 PM
Did anyone else think that when you saw the cheapness of the prizes in Switch that we had a new producer? I myself was quite shocked at how cheap the total was.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: TPIRmaniac on August 23, 2012, 01:22:10 AM
This episode repeated today and I happened to be perusing Reddit when I say this:

http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/yng9w/my_cousin_josh_was_on_the_price_is_right_while_on/

http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/yng9w/my_cousin_josh_was_on_the_price_is_right_while_on/c5x9l2u

Very interesting... I guess there really isn't anyway to check for this I guess  :-?  ;)
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: vadernader on August 23, 2012, 01:31:48 AM
Very interesting... I guess there really isn't anyway to check for this I guess  :-?  ;)

For price to check if someone is on shrooms?

Or to search reddit for other episodes of people being on shrooms?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 5/2/2012
Post by: TPIRmaniac on August 23, 2012, 01:39:53 AM
To check if someone is high... which is obviously something you don't want on daytime television.