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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: LarryC on November 30, 2018, 06:15:59 PM

Title: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: LarryC on November 30, 2018, 06:15:59 PM
"The new contestants have got to go."

That was written more than 10 years ago, on the old jumptheshark.com website, when Bob was still hosting the show.  The author was bemoaning the fact that the current crop of contestants weren't familiar with the games and didn't know how to behave.

Here we are some years later, and the situation has only gotten worse, in my opinion.  The "enthusiasm" of the contestants today usually seems forced, out of control, coached and really over the top.  It's quite irritating, actually.  Contestants dance, fall down on the stage, scream (loudly), yell (loudly), holler (loudly), do somersaults & other assorted gymnastics, and behave like idiots. 

Whose mandate is this, anyway?   Are the producers instructing the contestants beforehand to yuck it up?  Is TPIR so desperate for a non-stop party atmosphere than it thinks shenanigans are necessary? 

Think about it: Once upon a time, the show would have the occasional hyped-up contestant and it was usually charming and fun to watch.  But now, when all the contestants are like what?  Umm ... no.  No.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: wink87 on November 30, 2018, 06:23:29 PM
I agree. Something is very different. It seems like something is going on at the production level that is causing this, and not the contestants themselves.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: mellongraig on November 30, 2018, 06:51:18 PM
It is definitely the current management that is forcing the tactic and I wonder if the senior staffers are concerned now, that they may speak out about this in the future if they haven't already publicly.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: TPIRighteous on November 30, 2018, 06:57:51 PM
I think it's a change in which contestants are being selected—the ones most likely to ham it up and go crazy. Since Drew is incapable of generating excitement, the producers compensate for that with overly excitable contestants.

Something else that I think exacerbates this is the body mics on contestants. They capture every bit of horrendous screaming. Now, if I were on the show, I'd scream too, but nobody needs to hear me yelling at the top of my lungs constantly. (As an example, see the first Pay the Rent win by Ani Khojasarian; I find that clip unbearable.)
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: wink87 on November 30, 2018, 07:15:17 PM
Why are body mics necessary when Drew has a mic already? I've always wondered this.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: blozier2006 on November 30, 2018, 08:50:06 PM
Contestants dance, fall down on the stage, scream (loudly), yell (loudly), holler (loudly), do somersaults & other assorted gymnastics, and behave like idiots.
And this is precisely why I have zero interest in the current show. Feels too trashy, bordering almost on parody.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: CBSpromoman on November 30, 2018, 09:10:18 PM

I was just having this discussion with someone earlier today. Barker would sometimes seem to become annoyed with the overly-excited and out-of-control folks near the end of his run. But in the old days, excitement was enough; lunacy was generally avoided.

It's definitely part of the reason I stopped watching regularly. It's almost like they're encouraging people to act like idiots on the show. It's not appealing at all.

Why are body mics necessary when Drew has a mic already? I've always wondered this.

They aren't necessary when a host can adequately remember to move the mic to the person he's talking to. He's gotten better at this over the years.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: Flerbert419 on November 30, 2018, 09:19:36 PM
I understand the concern, but I think that compared to other game shows Price still has some of the best contestants.

The current casting process of other shows to focus on heartbreaking stories and over-rehearsal is destroying contestant quality. In order to get chosen, you're better off having some sort of personal difficulty than being an expert at the game.

Sure I wish the focus now was less on looks and borderline insane excitement. But they are still forced to pick from the audience members who show up that day - and that means no prep and sometimes a diamond in the rough is going to get through.

Why are body mics necessary when Drew has a mic already? I've always wondered this.

Drew does not have the mic discipline to ensure that the contestants are consistently heard.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on November 30, 2018, 11:33:17 PM
and i think the reason Drew can't host as good? one note contestants being forcefed to him
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: Hag on December 01, 2018, 02:16:40 PM
In this age of social media, I guess we shouldn't be surprised at how some contestants act up, hoping to appear on Facebook or Twitter.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 01, 2018, 02:26:07 PM
Ok...Ive worked in Social Media and with College Students for over ten years.

 Everyone wants to go viral. Decorum in general has disappeared. This is how people are now- i see it every single day. To blame the production team for this is frankly, unfair and just plain wrong.

In fact, one of the things i still apprecaiate about Price (and Feud, Wheel and J!) is, in fact that the contestants are a nice slice of life. I hate the NBC Prime time games because as was posted-those contestants seem manufactured (and as Adam Needeff posted in a forum- many times are).

And Honestly- sometimes an over exuberant contestant can be kinda fun- it's why i still tune in!
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: imhomerjay on December 01, 2018, 04:43:50 PM
I wouldn't even go so far as to say decorum has disappeared, but like all things in life, standards change with generations. Today's complainers were once the young whippersnappers who [insert some supposedly end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it behavior here]. Some folks are certainly looking for their viral moment, but that's too broad a brush to assume everyone who is energetic and enthusiastic is plotting their moment in the social media sun.

Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: someguy23475 on December 01, 2018, 10:25:00 PM
Don’t watch the show. Works for me.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 01, 2018, 10:46:09 PM
So why post about it then?
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: yuki-louve on December 02, 2018, 03:06:07 AM
Remember the very first episode, when Bob said he hoped "we'll always have a Connie on our show" (referring to Connie Dunnal- not sure how that's supposed to be spelled- who was the most excited person in Studio 33 that day by a country mile)? I don't think this was what he meant.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 02, 2018, 07:06:11 AM
Yes, but a lot has changed since 1972. A lot has changed since 2012, even.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: wink87 on December 02, 2018, 08:44:10 AM
Remember the very first episode, when Bob said he hoped "we'll always have a Connie on our show" (referring to Connie Dunnal- not sure how that's supposed to be spelled- who was the most excited person in Studio 33 that day by a country mile)? I don't think this was what he meant.

I think if Connie were to watch some of today's contestants, even she would be shaking her head.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: tpir04 on December 02, 2018, 03:37:55 PM
Remember the early days of TPIR where the audience would sit quietly while the First Four was instructed to "come on down"? Those days are gone. In an age where viewers can have four channels on one screen, viewers have to be constantly engaged. The producers have to focus more on the party atmosphere than on the pricing game aspect in itself.

The times, they are a-changin'.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: JT on December 03, 2018, 07:09:55 AM
Agree with all of the comments here.  I think social media has a lot to do with it as the contestants know they can upload their appearance on their social media pages.  People also just have less class these days so some of that is going to spill into Studio 33 as well.  But yes, the producers need to realize to tone it down a bit with contestants.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: bagels on December 03, 2018, 12:21:01 PM
I can't believe some of the posts I'm seeing here. If you don't like it, don't watch the show. It's as simple as that. Personally, I don't have a problem with the contestants.

Also, you guys have a big fan in Casey Abell. Google him and look at his December 2nd blog post on Game Show Follies to see what I mean.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: blozier2006 on December 03, 2018, 12:28:41 PM
Also, you guys have a big fan in Casey Abell.
Oh, did he remember to take his Geritol finally?
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: RedWing512 on December 03, 2018, 01:00:22 PM
I can't believe some of the posts I'm seeing here. If you don't like it, don't watch the show. It's as simple as that. Personally, I don't have a problem with the contestants.

THIS. Personally, I'm fine with the contestants going nuts after they win. They're on the freaking Price is Right, and it shows how happy they are to be there and win their prize.

If I wanted to watch a bunch of Stiffly Stiffersons, I'd watch Jeopardy.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 03, 2018, 01:04:52 PM
Also, you guys have a big fan in Casey Abell. Google him and look at his December 2nd blog post on Game Show Follies to see what I mean.

I'd be more worried about that if I had any respect for Casey Abell.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: bagels on December 03, 2018, 05:55:24 PM
I'd be more worried about that if I had any respect for Casey Abell.

If you don't like the guy, fine. However, you're only proving his point with posts like that. Same goes for the Geritol post.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 03, 2018, 06:09:47 PM
I'm with Steve.  I've read some of his posts and his tone is mocking of pretty much the entire fandom. And not in a funny way- it's mean and rather stupid. He seems to actually despise game shows with terms like "moldy oldies" (any old game show), makes fun of buzzr on a regular basis for not being a "real network" and looking for the first sign of failure, takes constant shots at buzzerblog, the game show forum, golden road and game show garbage.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: bagels on December 03, 2018, 06:14:25 PM
I'm with Steve.  I've read some of his posts and his tone is mocking of pretty much the entire fandom. And not in a funny way- it's mean and rather stupid. He seems to actually despise game shows with terms like "moldy oldies" (any old game show), makes fun of buzzr on a regular basis for not being a "real network" and looking for the first sign of failure, takes constant shots at buzzerblog, the game show forum, golden road and game show garbage.

To be fair, he also takes shots at Game Show Paradise, which deserves it the most. They criticize GSN for everything, from Steve Harvey's Family Feud to Trish Suhr. One user suggested the southern chick was on medication and it wasn't working right. That should tell you a lot about that forum.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: someguy23475 on December 03, 2018, 08:05:56 PM
Has Casey Abell ever written an entry where he isn’t complaining?
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: blozier2006 on December 03, 2018, 08:43:02 PM
Has Casey Abell ever written an entry where he isn’t complaining?
Has the sun ever risen in the west? There's your answer :P
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: someguy23475 on December 03, 2018, 09:26:56 PM
It could be he is jealous, because those forums he trashes actually have views and comments. Abell only has about two or three people actually reading his blog. Going back, the only entries with many comments are trolls and those insulting him.
Title: Re: Over-excited contestants = non-exciting viewing experience
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 03, 2018, 10:11:26 PM
However, you're only proving his point with posts like that. Same goes for the Geritol post.

If his point is that most people in the community think he's an idiot, then yes, I suppose we are.

Also, this has drifted really far off-topic, and most of us agreeing that Casey Abell's a goof seems like a good place to end it.

LOCKED.

EDIT:  Oh, and Casey, since you're apparently reading this, telling the whole world that you Googled me because I had a reaction to you that you didn't like is more than a little creepy.