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Studio 46 - Non-TPiR Discussion => Out In Left Field => Topic started by: Axl on May 15, 2007, 01:42:08 PM
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The conservative minister died at a Lynchburg, Virginia hospital after being found unconscious in his office today at Liberty University. He was the founder of the school and of the Moral Majority political group, which fizzled out after President Reagan left office. He had experienced severe health problems two years ago, but was thought to be recovered. He was 73.
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Latest Details: Yahoo! News (http://www.yahoo.com/s/581727)
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For those interested here is a link to local coverage
http://www.wsls.com/
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Those who know how I lean politically can probably guess how I feel about Jerry Falwell, and thus how I reacted upon learning he'd died...and for the sake of decency, I think I'll just leave it at that.
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Wasn't this the same guy who demeaned Tinky-Winky from the Teletubbies?
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FieldsFan336 wrote:
Wasn't this the same guy who demeaned Tinky-Winky from the Teletubbies?
Yuuuuuuuuuuup.
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Steve, thank you for putting into words what I couldn't say in my earlier post. Sometimes if there's nothing good to say, it's better not to say anything... that's the case for me here.
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Ditto.
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I'll have to concur as well. All I will say is my condolences to his family.
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Good riddance is all I have to say.
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SteveGavazzi wrote:
FieldsFan336 wrote:
Wasn't this the same guy who demeaned Tinky-Winky from the Teletubbies?
Yuuuuuuuuuuup.
And let us not forget his classic "G*d created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve". :)
Wonder what Randy Amasia would say of this news today if he were still around.
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I will also have to refrain from going into a long rant on "Reverend" [d]Jerry's Foulballs[/d] Jerry Falwell. I will be concise by saying that there are three types of people that I absolutely hate: fake Christians, morally hypocritical conservatives, and humorless stick-up-the-ass liberals. If you take out the word "liberals" from that statement, then you have the perfect description of Falwell.
Some people say that we should never speak ill of the dead, but those are the same people who will probably dance on Bill Clinton's corpse if he ever kicks it.
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BRBTheFireball wrote:
Some people say that we should never speak ill of the dead, but those are the same people who will probably dance on Bill Clinton's corpse if he ever kicks it.
And because you've done it with Falwell, you'll have no right to complain if someone does it to Clinton, will you?
What I'd say about Falwell was that I think he genuinely believed in what he preached.
The drawback is that extreme confidence in your beliefs can sometimes make you really miss the point. Turning people away from religion, it seems to me, isn't really serving God's purpose, no matter how right you believe you are.
It would be nice if new ministers out there could learn that much from Falwell. Maybe for all of the pain he caused people who were on the fence about their beliefs, some good can come from it.
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CBSpromoman wrote:
And because you've done it with Falwell, you'll have no right to complain if someone does it to Clinton, will you?
Only if the said person dancing on Clinton's corpse had previously complained about people dancing on Falwell's (or anybody else's for that matter) corpse, which was the whole basis of that statement. I believe in freedom of speech, but I also believe in consistency.
I will say one good thing about Falwell: At least his fatal heart attack didn't happen as a result of boinking his secretary, unlike Nelson Rockefeller.
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BRBTheFireball wrote:
I will say one good thing about Falwell: At least his fatal heart attack didn't happen as a result of boinking his secretary, unlike Nelson Rockefeller.
Uh, can we stick to actual facts, please?
Speaking of which, Slate magazine (http://www.slate.com/id/2166220/) has an interesting (and factual) rundown of statements made by Falwell over the years.
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Amen, CBSpromoman. I for one am upset at his passing. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family for their loss.
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As a Christian, I believe in Christ's words:
"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone." (John 8:7)
So while I do not agree with everything Mr. Falwell taught, I have no right to lamblast him in a public forum, either.
He did do good things--he is often credited with getting born-again Christians involved in politics; before his time, evangelicals were taught that the church should stay out of the state's affairs. They now make up (depending on whom you listen to) somewhere between 25-33% of voters. Liberty University, which he founded, has produced solid Christian people and leaders; for those of you familiar with the band d.c. Talk, that's where they met.
In short, while he wasn't perfect, none of us is, and as such, I want to make sure positives are brought out.
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Thing about Falwell is that he felt that God's love was conditional--if you were Jewish, liberal, Muslim, anything outside of Christian Conservatism, you weren't worthy. He also blamed 9-11 on feminists, gays and the left wing. As if they allowed the terrorists to board those planes and ram them into the Pentagon and WTC.
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Ok, its quite clear at this point that nothing positive is going to come from this thread.
LOCKED.