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Studio 46 - Non-TPiR Discussion => Out In Left Field => Topic started by: jlgarfield on April 25, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
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http://deadline.com/2018/04/double-dare-game-show-revived-nickelodeon-1202376321/ - First, DuckTales gets revived. And I wished for Double Dare to come back. Well, those wishes are coming true! Nickelodeon is reviving DD for 40 eps this summer. Huzzah!
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Nice. I loved Double Dare for a long time.
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Very exciting and also surprising news. Since it didn't get rebooted following the 30th anniversary special in 2016 I didn't think it was ever going to happen. Nickelodeon is definitely embracing the 90s Nick nostalgia. Hopefully this version is better than Double Dare 2000 and they pick a good host (I can't see Marc Summers returning as host, but I suppose it could happen).
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It could be John Cena.
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Wow, I never thought this would happen, but good to see it again!
First off, if it's the "family" format, it would be neat to have an episode or two where one of the parents which appeared on the original version are part of the team. Also, I'd hope they end the season with a one hour finale like they did in 1993, including trophy and a new car as prizes.
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As long as the grand prize isn't a trip to Universal Studios, I'm happy. :P
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Grand prize will still be a Dodge Caravan.
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Looks like this version can't decide yet on whether to be kids-only or family:
http://www.mysticartpictures.com/mystic/castingdetail.php?nc_id=186
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Interesting. Maybe they're planning on mixing up the episodes so some are two kids vs two kids, some one parent/kid vs another parent/kid, and others families of four.
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Today, Nickelodeon announced that Double Dare will return on June 25th at 8:00 PM. YouTube star and cast member of Freakish Liza Koshy will be the new host, and Marc Summers returns to provide "color commentary" to physical challenges, as noted by The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/double-dare-reboot-taps-youtube-star-liza-koshy-as-host-1113637).
I'm excited for this, and I'll be interested to see how Marc is used in the show. It sounds like Double Dare meets Wild & Crazy Kids with the new role.
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I wasn't expecting Marc to host, and his having an on-air role on the new show is a pleasant surprise. The 8pm timeslot definitely shows they're looking for a kid and millennial audience.
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I can't wait for that. It will be on the day after my 30th birthday.
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Is it 8pm est, or cst?
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I like the 8pm primetime slot for the new Double Dare. I vividly recall the Family Double Dare Primetime Specials that aired on Saturday nights during the sweeps months for a few years during DD's original run. The bigger budget on those specials in addition to having Marc Summers wear a tuxedo, and the subtle changes to the set such as the purple wall behind the host's podium going glass block were changes parallel to TPIR's own nighttime specials in '86. I hope that this new Double Dare has a mix of the classic format of two kids per team and families but keeps to the original game with obvious changes such as higher dollar values for questions/physical challenges etc ($10/20/40 and $20/40/80 is pocket change these days and having two players split $100-$150 wouldn't even cover the costs to travel to the taping.) As for the obstacle course, I think blending in obstacles from the original series (save Nightmare and Fireman Flag Pull aka the Bullseye '72 of DD obstacles) and adding new ones would be the best route to go. Looking forward to tuning in on June 25th.
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I like the 8pm primetime slot for the new Double Dare. I vividly recall the Family Double Dare Primetime Specials that aired on Saturday nights during the sweeps months for a few years during DD's original run. The bigger budget on those specials in addition to having Marc Summers wear a tuxedo, and the subtle changes to the set such as the purple wall behind the host's podium going glass block were changes parallel to TPIR's own nighttime specials in '86. I hope that this new Double Dare has a mix of the classic format of two kids per team and families but keeps to the original game with obvious changes such as higher dollar values for questions/physical challenges etc ($10/20/40 and $20/40/80 is pocket change these days and having two players split $100-$150 wouldn't even cover the costs to travel to the taping.) As for the obstacle course, I think blending in obstacles from the original series (save Nightmare and Fireman Flag Pull aka the Bullseye '72 of DD obstacles) and adding new ones would be the best route to go. Looking forward to tuning in on June 25th.
Wheel will be in reruns by that point, but that means I can see the last few weeks of Jeopardy!'s current season, then hop over to catch a classic episode of Supermarket Sweep over on BUZZR. If its two per team, use the classic FDD dollar values, and if four, $50/$100/$200 in round one and $100/$200/$400 in round two. Have the grand prize be a trip to Disney (especially with today's higher ticket prices), a family cruise, or even places like a city with family-oriented attractions if the two player format is used. Have a nice prize like a TV, bike, or video game console with games as you get to #6 and #7. Instead of a Toys "R" Us gift card since they're out of business, have an Amazon gift card instead, $200 X the obstacle number. If teams of four, have either a trip to South America, Europe, Asia, an African Safari, Samoa, Bali, Fiji, or a car like a Ford Escape or Subaru Forester (the Caravan is still around, but isn't as popular like it was), and also have the cash obstacle for #7, starting at $2000 and increasing by $500 each day it isn't won, or even a mini-vacation like a weekend in a popular resort or city if a car is the grand prize. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing if this will be a success or a semi-bust like DD 2000. That version itself did seem like a mix of classic and modern ones, but it had one major flaw that I don't want to see again. I didn't like the Triple Dare Challenge as it ate up too much gameplay time for the second round, and it wasn't uncommon for there to be a question or two, then the physical challenge, and then the round to be over.
IMO the Bullseye '72 (or Shrine of the Silver Monkey) of DD obstacles was Pick It, though whenever Shark was used in the 1992-93 season, the course was only one during the Tournament episode. I remember knowing that after it went to reruns, seeing that obstacle was the kiss of death, and a fair warning usually meant the Gak Geyser immediately preceded it. What irritated me most about it was that you had to climb up a diving board and then walk just to get to the shark's mouth to find the flag. If they bring it back, just looking inside the shark's mouth would be fine rather than waste a good 5-6 seconds just to get to the mouth.
A good pattern for the obstacle course is to start with a medium difficulty one like the Hamster Wheel, followed by two easy ones like the drawbridge or monkey bars, then another medium difficulty one like popping one of three balloons to find a flag, then a tough one like the Sundae Slide, then an easy one like the Wringer, then a medium one, and finally a tough one like Pick It or the Blue Plate Special. That way it provides a nice balance to the lineup by not only allowing different players to have the tougher obstacles, but actually provide a shot at winning. A lineup of Lake Double Dare, Blue Plate Special, Doggie Door, Balloon Pop, Pick-It, Sundae Slide, Fireman Flag Pull, and Lube Job won't get the job done even if the team is fast.
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Is it 8pm est, or cst?
EDT/PDT.
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Sundae Slide was only challenging if you didn't know the trick to it. Putting your feet along the sides of the ramp (out of the slop) was the key to slam dunking that obstacle. As far as Pick it, that obstacle was a course killer, especially if it was lower than Obstacle 6. So was "Time's Running Out" where you had to find an orange flag among a bin of orange golf balls while more golf balls poured down on top of you. Sewer Chute also could be a course killer, especially if the flag didn't fall out of the bucket when the cord was pulled. That obstacle glitched so much that Marc frequently waved the contestant on when the flag didn't drop out of the bucket.
Now for my Murderer's Row of Obstacle Courses.
1.Nightmare 2.Pick It. 3.Inside Out 4.Time's Running Out. 5.Shark 6.Garbage Truck 7.Blue Plate Special 8.Inside Out (complete with the trick flags that were different colors hidden in the balloons in addition to the orange flag)
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/keelyflaherty/heres-your-first-look-at-the-new-double-dare-on-nickelodeon?sf191193886=1&utm_term=.lrZOvBNbL here's an article with pics of the new set along with new Obstacles
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As a teenager who watched the original show on Nick GaS, they better bring back the music in some medium or else it’s not worth watching.
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Now for my Murderer's Row of Obstacle Courses.
1.Nightmare 2.Pick It. 3.Inside Out 4.Time's Running Out. 5.Shark 6.Garbage Truck 7.Blue Plate Special 8.Inside Out (complete with the trick flags that were different colors hidden in the balloons in addition to the orange flag)
Replace one of your two "Inside Out"s with Fireman's Flag-Pull (with the trick-or-treat bags) and you REALLY have an impossible course! And if DD2K obstacles are an option, replace Blue Plate Special with Double Click :-D
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As a teenager who watched the original show on Nick GaS, they better bring back the music in some medium or else it’s not worth watching.
If you were in the target audience for the original, you're not in the target audience now. Whether or not the original music is there in any capacity means nothing to today's audience. If it works for them to incorporate it, great. If not, the kids aren't going to be skipping the show because of it.
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If you were in the target audience for the original, you're not in the target audience now. Whether or not the original music is there in any capacity means nothing to today's audience. If it works for them to incorporate it, great. If not, the kids aren't going to be skipping the show because of it.
I agree with you that saying the show will fail without the original music is ridiculous but I would also say that they aren’t just trying to attract kids with this. They are going for adults that grew up in the ‘80s and ‘90s too. Nick at Nite timeslot, Marc Summers, classic obstacles, etc.
I expected the show to have a bigger budget to be honest. This seems to be more along the lines of 1986-1988 Double Dare based on the pictures. It may be a good thing though since Double Dare 2000 went far too large and complicated when it came to props and features that took the spotlight off of the main game.
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I have a kiddo in the target audience. If he wants to watch, as a parent, I'll watch with him, regardless of whether they use a variation of the original theme or Beethoven's Fifth. They're going to be looking for kids and co-watching--and selling that. A bunch of extraneous viewers may look good to some on paper, but if the advertisers aren't buying them, they're irrelevant either way.
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It may be a good thing though since Double Dare 2000 went far too large and complicated when it came to props and features that took the spotlight off of the main game.
In recent years, Marc Summers has said this was one of the many reasons why Double Dare 2000 flopped so hard. He had nothing nice to say about the unnecessary changes to the show, especially the Triple Dare challenge. Given all this, it's not surprising that Nickelodeon demoted him to a screen-only credit of executive consultant for 2000. Remember, he was EP of Family Double Dare in 1992.
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However, things can change for more reasons than perhaps expressing some disagreement with choices made. Other things he had going on, the desire of the producers and/or network to go in that direction. It happens in life.
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Well we know Marc is definitely more involved this time since he will be on camera. It's pretty clear they're looking for a nostalgia/millennial audience in addition to their target demo this time, between Marc being on again, the classic-esque look, and the primetime timeslot.
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well, the theme song will be an updated version of the classic ( https://www.instagram.com/p/BkIwTlyFZEv/?taken-by=officialdoubledare here's a small bit from the official Instagram page)
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The worst obstacle i remember was buried treasure. it would literally take up the entire 60 secs to find the flag. i think times, the other contestant or even marc would jump and help try to find it.
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Nickelodeon uploaded this sneak peek of the show onto YouTube. We see how Marc will be involved with the show, and new physical challenges. It seems they're moving away from the super messes of the Super Sloppy/Nickelodeon Family, and Double Dare 2000 runs, and embracing the teamwork aspect of the show-in the contestants and in Liza and Marc having good banter with each other. Marc is seen describing the physical challenges and tossups, to balance out Liza's hosting of the game.
Also, it appears that the dollar amounts are updated to account for inflation: $50 for the tossup and $50/100/200 for questions in Round 1, with $200 physical challenges. Double the dollar values for Round 2 and we have $100 tossups, $100/200/400 for questions and $400 physical challenges. These are the highest dollar values for the main game in the show's history.
I like how they kept the original show's 1986 aesthetics and soundtrack, and updated both for 2018. This looks to be a great revival of the show, and I can't wait to see it.
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Overall the preview video has me excited. Liza is great hosting as is Marc as the co-host. They have nice chemistry together and I'm a little surprised Marc is on as much as he was here. The two host thing did feel a little odd though, and I hope the toss-up challenges don't take up too much time like the ones on here did.
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Nickelodeon uploaded this sneak peek of the show onto YouTube. We see how Marc will be involved with the show, and new physical challenges. It seems they're moving away from the super messes of the Super Sloppy/Nickelodeon Family, and Double Dare 2000 runs, and embracing the teamwork aspect of the show-in the contestants and in Liza and Marc having good banter with each other. Marc is seen describing the physical challenges and tossups, to balance out Liza's hosting of the game.
Also, it appears that the dollar amounts are updated to account for inflation: $50 for the tossup and $50/100/200 for questions in Round 1, with $200 physical challenges. Double the dollar values for Round 2 and we have $100 tossups, $100/200/400 for questions and $400 physical challenges. These are the highest dollar values for the main game in the show's history.
I like how they kept the original show's 1986 aesthetics and soundtrack, and updated both for 2018. This looks to be a great revival of the show, and I can't wait to see it.
In the early episodes there was also less slop and the physical challenges were more reminiscent of Bob Barker's Truth or Consequences. Though it was fun to watch contestants get gunged with slime and giant drums of food like substances, I preferred the 1986 episodes for their simplicity. Looking forward to tuning in next week.
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The Diaper and commode challenge is funny.
They did a very good job keeping this show true to the original. Liza is doing a great job hosting its just weird seeing Marc play second banana.
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I've watched the first four episodes, and I hope this survives into a second season. Interestingly, it looks like Wednesday's episode was in the same taping session as the second Monday episode with the same obstacle course layout, and surprisingly, although Tuesday's course seemed the easiest, it team only made it through obstacle #4. Two episodes also had Round 2 without a physical challenge, although I'd miss the earlier versions where the losing team kept their money (and even got a minimum of $100 just for playing), meaning I'd just wish they just had the FDD/2000 values all along, since the winner is the only one who gets a crack at the prizes on the obstacle course. The new Mt. Saint Double Dare seemed to have the board portion of the Sundae Slide, and makes a great closer as well, with Marc hiding behind it. And I do like Liza better than the DD2000 host (can't remember who he was, but he just didn't seem to have as much energy).
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I would say this version is good so far. The set looks better on TV than it did in the preview photos and videos, and I love the theme music but the sound effects could be better. Liza is a fine host and having Marc there as announcer and co-host just gives the show a boost since they have great chemistry together and play off each other well. The physical challenges so far seem to be either too difficult or too easy. The obstacle course fell victim to the contestants playing it too slow on the first three episodes with the couch obstacle really tricking them up on Tuesday's episode, last night's seemed to be intentionally set up to be easy to get a win. The prizes feel a little cheap, but I love that Space Camp has been the final prize on 3 out of 4 shows. It's definitely better than Double Dare 2000.
And I do like Liza better than the DD2000 host (can't remember who he was, but he just didn't seem to have as much energy).
Jason Harris was the DD2000 host. I agree, Liza is better with contestant interaction and Jason usually came off as awkward.
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I may be in the minority but I like the idea of having only the winners keep their cash. Much like the current version of Jeopardy!, it drives more of a competitive edge to the game since they’re playing for much higher stakes. Plus the losing team still gets some consolation prizes.
My only quirk so far is how the rounds are haphazardly paced. As mentioned before, two rounds went without physical challenges! Here’s hoping it’s just an effect of the first taped shows.
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Yes, the pacing of the rounds has been an issue. Most of them have felt either really long or really short. I don't mind the losing contestants not winning their bank either, but perhaps they could make it that the non-winning contestants take home half of the money they banked.
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Guess kids don't watch The Price is Right when they're home from school anymore, this one went unanswered: https://imgur.com/a/O8GoTfG (https://imgur.com/a/O8GoTfG)
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Two kids isn’t necessarily a sample. :)
But with all the other options available today, that shouldn’t be all that surprising.
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Two kids isn’t necessarily a sample. :)
But with all the other options available today, that shouldn’t be all that surprising.
I know, it was not meant to be taken seriously commentary.
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Just finally got around to watching it (I've been travelling), and, for the most part, I found it enjoyable. Liza does a decent job as host, and Marc's interactions are just enough without feeling out of place.
The only minor issues I had were with the production...it feels like a typical Fremantle production. Overproduced, too tight editing, the audio mixing needs a lot of work, and, while the remixed theme and cues are great, they're not using the entire package...and the parts they are using are often used in the wrong places. And is it just me...or is the thirty second physical challenge cue about three seconds too short?