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Title: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: LarryC on October 21, 2015, 07:36:25 AM
I've been enjoying BUZZR since day one.

Well, I WAS ... now, every time I tune into Match Game, Family Feud or Card Sharks -- it's the same episodes over & over again. 

It seems they only got a small block of shows from a certain time period, and they're running only those.  Every month or so the cycle starts over again.

What's going on?  Can Match Game ever get out of 1978?  Can Family Feud ever get out of 1980?
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: pannoni1 on October 21, 2015, 08:27:38 AM
I would think that a lease would consist of at least 65 episodes that GSN always would do, and we just got Sale (starting from the Syndie premiere), Beat The Clock (almost never on GSN), and Double Dare. I'm not sure about how many WML/TTT/IGAS they are cycling through, but I would think that since Fremantle owns the network, there's no reason why a certain number of shows can't be shown at a time. Still, there are so many episodes that survive from the past anyways, though at least showing some rarer shows is a reason to watch. I still expect better programming from BUZZR before it reaches its full potential like GSN did around 1999. The big question of course is if/when TPIR will make the lineup, and if scheduled on evenings/weekends, it wouldn't have to worry about competiting with the daytime version and of course there's plenty of episodes that GSN not only didn't air, but only in the WinTV format. The big problem is with thousands of cable channels (along with online entertainment/media), the niche keeps getting smaller and smaller. USA could draw as much as a Big Three could today back when it ran game shows. GSN could still draw a million or two in its golden age (1996-2003). But BUZZR is just a niche and likely only drawing a couple hundred thousand viewers at most, meaning that advertising rates are going to be low and even though their catalog doesn't cost much to air, isn't designed to be a big market. It would be cool to have a "find lost episodes" contest via old videotapes and the winners would not only get a prize, but have their discovered episodes air on BUZZR, even if not on their current schedule.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: Guint on October 21, 2015, 09:27:33 AM
Let's not forget that Buzzr is still in the process of growing. It just started a few months ago and needs time to grow and expand.

My assumption is that their strategy for right now is to attempt to get Buzzr in more markets than they're currently located in (Which they could use...they're not anywhere in Ohio yet), and then they'll pay more attention to their schedule (with the exception of these little gimmicks like the unsold pilots).
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: danderson400 on October 21, 2015, 09:42:24 AM
I remember when GSN first started, they didn't do that..i remember watching a Super Password episode with Natalie Steele(she was the biggest winner on Password and that doesn't count the original version too!) id say I saw her episodes in 94 and 95(had a few tapes of her episodes..since I had a dish that's where I saw GSN when it started) besides my NBC station WYFF always had a newscast instead of SP so I was wondering "How in the heck did she win big time!" Besides Ken Jennings and maybe Thom McKee, Natalie was one of the most memorable contestants I had seen( and this was while watching reruns in 1994 and 1995 to boot!) I also remember the first GSN logo too
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: pannoni1 on December 07, 2015, 08:12:27 AM
And sadly, BUZZR's Pick 'n Play as of last night (SOTC, BTC '79, DD Trebek) began repeating the same same episodes that aired all but seven weeks ago after just 14 episodes. I decided to catch the Frank Sinatra 100th anniversary celebration instead after discovering this. Is 65 episodes that hard to ask for shows that are three decades+ old (let alone 52 or even 26?) It seems to just be laziness on the programming department, though I'm not sure if they have a system where they must digitize the tapes before being ready to broadcast. With that said, I'm giving up on BUZZR until a new lease is announced.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: wink87 on December 07, 2015, 10:22:43 AM
Speaking of the programming department, is there any way we can get GSN to cut down on the Family Feud marathons every single night? It's getting monotonous!
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: Schfifty on December 07, 2015, 11:28:58 AM
Speaking of the programming department, is there any way we can get GSN to cut down on the Family Feud marathons every single night? It's getting monotonous!

It's likely they won't quite yet, sad to say. Harvey Feud is immensely popular, and I'm afraid cutting down the hours would affect the network's ratings. I personally wish they could cut down the hours as well, but it won't happen.

And that's what I don't get either - why do they have to have endless marathons of the same show all the time? Doesn't it get stale after a while?
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: PatrickRox80 on December 07, 2015, 01:28:15 PM
How many episodes of Harvey Feud have aired? A thousand? That should be enough to prevent repetition for a few months at least given the rate it's currently aired. I'd liken GSN's current treatment of Family Feud to a box of 30 chocolates where 29 of them are the same flavor. If you happen to like that flavor, good for you, but not if you're the kind that likes variety. I can also use that analogy to what everyone's been saying about BUZZR, too, except it seems to be going nowhere fast.

For the record, I don't have GSN and given what's on there, I don't miss it.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: priceguy on December 07, 2015, 02:02:48 PM
It seems to just be laziness on the programming department, though I'm not sure if they have a system where they must digitize the tapes before being ready to broadcast.

They do have to digitize the tapes and the cost of this process is why we're seeing so few episodes.  On a recent episode of "Stu's Show," Stu said an unnamed insider at Buzzr told him that the network has to see more of a profit before they can digitize more shows.  Buzzr isn't losing any money at the moment, but they're not making enough to expand their broadcasting playlist.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: Prizes on December 07, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
They do have to digitize the tapes and the cost of this process is why we're seeing so few episodes.  On a recent episode of "Stu's Show," Stu said an unnamed insider at Buzzr told him that the network has to see more of a profit before they can digitize more shows.  Buzzr isn't losing any money at the moment, but they're not making enough to expand their broadcasting playlist.

WINNER! This is what I've been told by an inside source as well. Given the statement matches exactly what I was told, probably the same source. (Don't ask who.)
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 07, 2015, 02:46:33 PM
I also think to make more money, they flat out need better overall coverage and better cable/satellite coverage.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: GuyWithFace on December 07, 2015, 03:01:26 PM
On a recent episode of "Stu's Show," Stu said an unnamed insider at Buzzr told him that the network has to see more of a profit before they can digitize more shows. Buzzr isn't losing any money at the moment, but they're not making enough to expand their broadcasting playlist.
I believe Adam Nedeff noted on his Facebook page that he had met with Buzzr executives, and that they are as much into the genre as we are. He also noted that there was "a reason" why the rotations are as small as they are, but would not divulge further per agreement with those executives, only noting that the people at Buzzr are also unhappy about the circumstances surrounding it.

...And yet, two things bother me about this:
-I had thought that all the shows were digitized, given their airtime on GSN, and particularly with the syndicated Sale of the Century.
-"We need more viewers and profit to get more content"? Fremantle is letting its own library gather dust until the network it owns and operates makes more of a profit to...deserve?...more content? :-? I suspect royalty fees may be involved somewhere along the line...
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: supersaver87 on December 07, 2015, 10:47:23 PM
-I had thought that all the shows were digitized, given their airtime on GSN, and particularly with the syndicated Sale of the Century.

It's possible GSN isn't willing to part with their own digitized copies.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: Shredder on December 17, 2015, 07:00:52 PM
since I can't seem to find the new topic link..

I just found buzzr on our fios and it's my new favorite network. they even keep the product placement tags in tact and no squish screen credits.  finally freemantle didn't dismantle something and did it right.

but, wasn't classic price is right supposed to be on here?  that and lets make a deal are the only things missing. I HATE drew carrey price is right...want to be reminded of the good old days.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: jimlange on December 17, 2015, 07:31:57 PM
since I can't seem to find the new topic link..

I just found buzzr on our fios and it's my new favorite network. they even keep the product placement tags in tact and no squish screen credits.  finally freemantle didn't dismantle something and did it right.

but, wasn't classic price is right supposed to be on here?  that and lets make a deal are the only things missing. I HATE drew carrey price is right...want to be reminded of the good old days.

Classic TPIR will not be on the network right now.  Let's Make A Deal is still on the schedule, but the normal nighttime schedule is being pre-empted for the 12 Days of Betty White Christmas marathon.  LMAD will return when this is over.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: GuyWithFace on December 17, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
Let's Make A Deal is still on the schedule, but the normal nighttime schedule is being pre-empted for the 12 Days of Betty White Christmas marathon. LMAD will return when this is over.
Indeed, although unless something changes the current "package" consists of the first two seasons of the 1971-77 syndicated series.

For reasons I am not aware of, Buzzr promos for the show have included clips of the mid-1980s revival, but no episodes of that series have been aired by the network as of yet.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: blozier2006 on December 18, 2015, 12:46:29 PM
It's possible GSN isn't willing to part with their own digitized copies.
Wouldn't the logical move have been to make two digital copies when they were made (one for GSN's use, one for the main Fremantle archive, which I'd presume would be the base archive of Buzzr), thus averting the need for GSN to surrender their copies to begin with?
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: jimlange on January 05, 2016, 12:30:52 AM
Buzzr has posted on their FB page today that new episodes of Super Password and Blockbusters are beginning today.  The Sunday night lineup of $ale of The Century, Beat The Clock, & Double Dare will pick back up where they left off beginning this Sunday.  They will gradually be adding more new episodes in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: Teddy on February 03, 2016, 11:49:40 AM
Classic TPIR will not be on the network right now.  Let's Make A Deal is still on the schedule, but the normal nighttime schedule is being pre-empted for the 12 Days of Betty White Christmas marathon.  LMAD will return when this is over.
Perhaps we'll have to see upon Bob Barker's death when his version of the show will air? And it probably would be restricted to the CBS daytime show only, like Dawson's Feud is to ABC and Perry's Card Sharks to NBC, right?
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: GuyWithFace on February 03, 2016, 06:45:23 PM
Perry's Card Sharks to NBC
The Perry version only ever aired on NBC, at least in first-run (some episodes were put into a syndication package in 1981-82 or so).

On a more positive note, Buzzr is scheduling special programming on Valentine's Day, including He Said, She Said and the 1960s Password.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: blozier2006 on February 03, 2016, 06:55:16 PM
The Perry version only ever aired on NBC, at least in first-run (some episodes were put into a syndication package in 1981-82 or so).
That's news to me. I knew CBN had it in the early 80s (that and Cullen's Blockbusters), together the only instances I've seen of GT shows rerunning on cable prior to GSN's launch in 1994.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: GuyWithFace on February 03, 2016, 07:42:05 PM
That's news to me.
Here is a WBZ promo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3hnQdA9cU) from late August or early September 1982, which includes Card Sharks as well as Match Game. It is also of note in that the other show featured, Wheel of Fortune, uses footage from one of the few surviving 1982 episodes.
Title: Re: Why is BUZZR repeating the same episodes -- again?
Post by: supersaver87 on February 05, 2016, 06:56:44 PM
That's news to me. I knew CBN had it in the early 80s (that and Cullen's Blockbusters), together the only instances I've seen of GT shows rerunning on cable prior to GSN's launch in 1994.

There's at least one more...a channel called the "Star Television Network" reran Trivia Trap, along with Liar's Club and Jackpot.

Star only lasted 15 weeks, from Sep. 1990 to Jan. 1991...not nearly enough time to get through Trivia Trap's run.