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Drew did keep the "sound effects lady" gag in today. Probably, other than Sharon's One away win, the best moment of the show.
Ever since the show started to go in a different direction, I defended it. I defended the show and I defended Drew. But after that reaction to what was probably the greatest moment in Price history, I have lost a lot of respect for Drew. Bob would have at least showed that he cared and had gotten excited over the moment.
Not sure if I'm welcome at Studio 33 anymore, but I'm sure I'll find out one of these days...
You know why Drew was monotonous at the end? Because he realized SOMEONE ELSE helped him get that EXACTA. Someone else had those prices (well-done, random audience member) memorized...
That's exactly the way that I feel, too. Robbed.
At first, I smelled a rigging on that number. Now that I know that some person memorized the prices on all of the items and yelled it out to the contestants... well, I'm not sure what to think.
That fact sure did take the fun out of what I saw today.
(see above quote)Also, Willy said there was a 45-minute stopdown between bidding & reveal - because the entire staff felt that way, too, but they couldn't re-do the SCs or anything like that. While I, again, absolutely agree Drew SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST feigned joy if he was feeling it was illegitimate, I honestly think this is a plausible theory that's going to prove itself true - not cheating, but suspicions of it and a definite person who knew these prices by heart.
You know why Drew was monotonous at the end? Because he realized SOMEONE ELSE helped him get that EXACTA.
Also, Willy said there was a 45-minute stopdown between bidding & reveal - because the entire staff felt that way, too, but they couldn't re-do the SCs or anything like that. While I, again, absolutely agree Drew SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST feigned joy if he was feeling it was illegitimate, I honestly think this is a plausible theory that's going to prove itself true - not cheating, but suspicions of it and a definite person who knew these prices by heart.
The show IS, after all, an audience participation show. Don't get me wrong, I memorize prices for my own benefit... (snip-snip-snip) :-)
Mr. Barker was NEVER EVER so monotone when I helped someone win a showcase. And last time I checked, the audience helping a contestant, WHICH HE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT ENCOURAGES, has ALWAYS been a part of this show.Again, I'm not defending Drew, in fact I'm against him in this manner, absolutely. I'm just giving what I think is the reason why it ended up coming out this way.
Who else here thinks that he should get $56,437 in cash?
...I guess my point is that if they don't want audience members to help the contestants, then the entire show should be run like Clock Game.
I guess my point is that if they don't want audience members to help the contestants, then the entire show should be run like Clock Game.
Mr. Barker was NEVER EVER so monotone when I helped someone win a showcase. And last time I checked, the audience helping a contestant, WHICH HE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT ENCOURAGES, has ALWAYS been a part of this show.
There was a very long stopdown between the showcases and the reveal, and lots of conversations going on all over the stage between groups of people. I really don't think they knew how to proceed, since this wasn't like somebody bidding $17500 and being on the nose. ...Well well well, I can't believe I missed this before...
If I were Fingers, I'd be telling him something along these lines: <snippity>Yeah, I bet Fingers didn't say a word...other than "reveal Sharon's first".
After this incident, I should never have to explain again why Drew is a bad host of The Price Is Right. This should speak for itself.
Even though a win like today's is a rare feat, in the rules it says the contestant just wins both showcases. The show just won't hand out over $50,000 just because of today's event.
Amen, Brother Nick! I think the garbage can from the open would have done a better job with the showcase reveal.
Isn't this the same Drew Carey that almost had a seizure after an exciting Lucky Seven win earlier in the season?This is also the same Drew Carey that got excited over a contestant breaking the Plinko record on December 25, 2007.
(As to what Fingers might have said.) "We've been discussing this for a while, and it seems legit."
Not sure if I'm welcome at Studio 33 anymore, but I'm sure I'll find out one of these days...
What I'd really like to know is whether someone called Drew over to discuss things with him. If I were Fingers, I'd be telling him something along these lines: ...
Today was an exciting show, historic too, only the 2nd time in the history of TPIR that a contestant got the showcase on the nose.It should also be noted that the last time was on the nighttime show, not the Bob/Drew era of the show.
This is why the producers of the show need to be especially careful when choosing prizes for showcases. Looking at the prizes in this exacta showcase, they are items that have been used several times before, without variation.
You know why Drew was monotonous at the end? Because he realized SOMEONE ELSE helped him get that EXACTA. Someone else had those prices (well-done, random audience member) memorized. ...
Reading everything that actually went down at the studio that day, I am not as angry with Drew as I was earlier.
Sooooooooo those LFAT who know their prices are the ones to be angry at, they're the ones to blame for Drew's tone?Being a loyal friend and true is one thing. Being obsessive is quite another. I consider myself a decent fan of the show, maybe even an "LFAT". I can tell you how much a can of salsa costs and how much that mini-pack of Chips Ahoy! is worth or whether or not that Ford is going to end in a "0" or a "3", but I can't combine the value of three different Showcase values.
Being a loyal friend and true is one thing. Being obsessive is quite another.Exactly.
Here's another thought. If they don't want the potential contestants memorizing prices and using that to their advantage, then STOP USING THE SAME PRIZES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again!!
Use a prize once, or twice, or even three times, but they've offered that trailer so many times now, even Joe Plinko knows its exact price!!
If that was me today hosting...I'd have held back a second...said..."We don't normally do this...but take a look at this card here...tell us the price on it...you have a perfect Showcase bid...on the money...you have got both Showcases..." ...Usual plugs and sign-off...
You really think he was privy to that information? I figured he went to his dressing room & ate doughnuts or something while they had the meeting.
There is something that I don't think anyone has considered. If everyone was having 45 minutes of conversation and they thought the bid was iffy, maybe they told Drew to not get excited about it incase they later decided for some reason that he cheated so they weren't going to give him the prizes.Since this episode is out of order by 3 weeks late, that's quite a possibility...
HOWEVER...I share a personal responsibility for helping a contestant named Summer win "Switch?" on the show that aired on April 11 (last season), because I was in the front row that day.
That fact sure did take the fun out of what I saw today.
You know, if the three from the Row could have done an actually half-decent job modeling those prizes, instead of leaning all over them like Joseph did with the pool table, it might have been something great;
I don't put the blame on Drew for the reveal, I place it on the producers who should have told him how significant this was.
Having now perused the show a bit, did anybody notice that they avoided shooting me at all during the one-bids? I don't know if that was done during the taping or in post-production (I would imagine it would be very hard to edit to look the way it did on TV)
Obviously, you can't mention names Ted, but after the ARP of the Showcase Reveal, did any audience members, or staffers, look to you or speak to you specifically as in "What does he know?" kind of thing?
Ted's contribution notwithstanding, it's entirely possible that the contestant is one of those who watches the show regularly and carefully enough to make reliable mental notes of prizes and prices.
Drew did keep the "sound effects lady" gag in today. Probably, other than Sharon's One away win, the best moment of the show.
You know why Drew was monotonous at the end? Because he realized SOMEONE ELSE helped him get that EXACTA. Someone else had those prices (well-done, random audience member) memorized. While I absolutely agree he SHOULD have been much more excited, I think that's why he got so down, which is weird, because he's supposed to love big wins.
At first, I smelled a rigging on that number. Now that I know that some person memorized the prices on all of the items and yelled it out to the contestants... well, I'm not sure what to think.
That fact sure did take the fun out of what I saw today.
I'm hoping the production staff learns from this and works harder on getting new items that people can't memorize.
if the staff suspects that if an LFaT, who absorbs prices like sponges, helps out your average contestant, then he/she will be moved. It happened to Voltaire, Willy, and A.J. (Armadillo)
Just out of curiosity, what was everyone reaction in chat when the exacta happened.
Army, I understand...I'm not defending Drew at all.......wha? Obviously you don't, because I wasn't referring to anything other than Bulldog's (mistaken) belief that I was no longer welcome in the studio.
Anyone else sick of seeing Pick A Number yet?
"Tennythreethousansevenhunnerdfortythree rightonthenoserightonthenose,hasnthappensince 72or73helpcontrolthepetpopulation..."
I may seriously be done watching the show.
He didn't say 72 or 73.Actually, he did.
What - am I the oldest person in this forum?
Was everyone else too young to remember the first perfect showcase bid?
No, apparently you're the newest. :)
But I would also like to mention that, for reasons unknown to me, when I went to my 3rd ever taping on August 3rd, I too was moved from my cozy seat in the second row to a seat probably in the 8th row in the middle. For the life of me, I have no idea why I was moved.
He didn't say 72 or 73. The thing is, the show was in a time crunch because of the Every Trip in the House showcase (there's a reason why they don't do that one often). He was in a hurry...period. Again, I do wonder if anyone here will realize that time is the defining factor for much of his behavior. More enthusiasm would've been nice. But on the other hand, he has about 20 seconds to get off of the air, if that. Would Bob have been more enthusiastic? Probably but he didn't have time to put much more into it.
Actually, his account was only created two months after yours. :)
OK...Now I'm watching the show in its entirety on CBS.com, and after Any Number, Drew exclaims, "The audience wins you a car!!!" Then to react the way he did for the showcase reveal is hypocritical. Either you like the audience help, or you don't. make up your mind.
I think knowing the result ahead of time really took away the possibility for an exciting reveal.
Am I the only one that thinks something fishy happened on today's show?
On a related note, "8.0" for Drew's hosting? May I ask why Drew deserves such a high score in the hosting category for today?
Bgamer, you really should read everyone else's posts in this thread.
On a related note, "8.0" for Drew's hosting? May I ask why Drew deserves such a high score in the hosting category for today?
Go to the home of the aspies aka Golden Road dot net and read about Ted Slauson. He's the one who gave him the bid. Terry owes Ted a few bucks imho. There's a big pissing contest there about the whole thing, but the main part is this, Drew TOTALLY BLEW THE FUN OF IT! I mean, he was like "oh well big fn deal!", and I've seen at least 40 other people say the same today. I have always been one to tell people to stop the Drew bashing, but there was no excuse for what he did. He had a chance to make a big deal about it(and it was, though people would have said he was over the top of course), and his writing of the showcases might be it. I've watched the show since the age of 2 and am seriously considering not watching it anymore.
But your good intentions in helping other contestants really does have the potential to ruin the game.
Okay, kids, I'm gonna be the person who disagrees with the majority opinion on this one. ...
(snip!)
... And I think the producers are aware of this now, and freaking out. Maybe they're overreacting by banishing G-R.net members to the boondocks. But I can't say as I blame them at this point.
^ Would you still be upset at him if news came out somehow that the contestant cheated? Would you still have liked him to play it off instead of showing how he truly felt about it?\
You know what? Ted did nothing wrong.
^ Would you still be upset at him if news came out somehow that the contestant cheated?
You still haven't read the thread, have you?
Since when did looking out to the audience for advice become cheating?
He didn't do anything wrong, but I'm going to have to go with the explanation Roger gave to Voltaire last season... it provides the contestant with an unfair advantage and it might raise suspicions amongst the viewing public (incidentally, it has... just about everybody outside this forum and game show-oriented forums is calling foul).
Ted might have not been bragging to others about his knowledge, as Voltaire did last season, but it's the same concept.
Sorry to get on your "anger side" (at least it seems like I did).
It wasn't anger -- it's just, we'd already told you we already knew more about this, and you were just kind of digging yourself into a hole by continuing to post without reading about it.
I'm not aware of any such lecture having been given to Ted.
He didn't do anything wrong, but I'm going to have to go with the explanation Roger gave to Voltaire last season... it provides the contestant with an unfair advantage and it might raise suspicions amongst the viewing public
Please please stop comparing Ted to Voltron. They are two totally separate and independent situations that have no basis for comparison.
Ted didn't break any rules, but whether he did anything wrong is open to debate. The point is that from here on, people are going to be wondering whenever a contestant scores a big win whether they did it by themselves from guessing or if they relied on help from someone who memorized everything and anything. ...
It's the same concept - fan knows the prices to just about everything featured on the show, provides contestant with exact bids, gives contestant an advantage other contestants might not have. It's a valid comparison, though it's not on the same scale as Voltaire's bragging to everybody in line within an earshot of the pages & staff.
Jesus....have you ever even been to the show? Are you one of those people who shout at the TV when someone guesses a price for the first prize in Cliffhangers of $40? Are you honestly telling me that you, if you were in studio, wouldn't be shouting out $20? ...
(see above quote)
I recall from attending the show over 10 years ago Rod having the audience take the "Oath of Audience." I will yell out the prices! and so on. Isn't that basically what Ted did?
Really? In his warmup, Johnny O. would tell the contestants to make up their own minds instead of listening to the audience.
Some Questions For Those Who Have Been to A Taping: (In light of today's events in the Showcases)
1.) What normally happens between the Showcase bids and the commercial breaks? Does Drew know the prices of the Showcases or anything else ahead of time?
2.) Is Drew told who to start with in Showcase reveals? Bob used to poll the audience asking who to start with, so does this matter? Did the producers between normal showcase reveals and during commercials request different ways of dealing with them during the Bob and Dew era's.
I've always read on here, but I thought what a momentous day to join. Unfortunately, I watch the show with my friends and I know more than they do about it. And while today, I went nuts, they went "Oh, that's crap. There's no way."....
Is anyone else concerned about this, like I am, because no matter what I said today to my roommate about how there was no way to rig the show he just kept on saying it was rigged.
Ted might have not been bragging to others about his knowledge, as Voltaire did last season, but it's the same concept.
Frankly, I believe that some people think we're spiesThat's not what the poster said...
If not, I think you all should, because their contributors make some great points about all this, and they are exactly right. They've basically written everything I've ever wanted to say about something like this.Hint: Someone agreeing with you does not automatically make them 'exactly right'.
Hey, have you guys read the two articles about this fiasco over at Buzzerblog (http://www.buzzerblog.com) ? If not, I think you all should, because their contributors make some great points about all this, and they are exactly right. They've basically written everything I've ever wanted to say about something like this.
Not sure if I'm welcome at Studio 33 anymore, but I'm sure I'll find out one of these days...
I've been a lifelong TPiR fan, but I don't know if I'll be watching the show much any more. This whole flap has taken the fun out of watching it for me, and while Drew's reveal was pretty bad, that had far less to do with my dissatisfaction than Ted's involvement.
Ditto here. Ted didn't cheat. The contestant didn't cheat. The contestant, did, however, have an unfair advantage over his opponent.
I've read everything in this thread and understand what happened was perfectly fine, but I've read three posts on cbs.com where they are questioning the integrity like my buddies and one on Buzzerblog who was overly rude but made a good point. What if the people who watch don't ever hear about Ted and they just continue to think mistakely that the show was rigged and people start tuning off the show.
Hey, have you guys read the two articles about this fiasco over at Buzzerblog (http://www.buzzerblog.com) ? If not, I think you all should, because their contributors make some great points about all this, and they are exactly right. They've basically written everything I've ever wanted to say about something like this.
Of course, there's a possibility that we're all overlooking:
Ted's contribution notwithstanding, it's entirely possible that the contestant is one of those who watches the show regularly and carefully enough to make reliable mental notes of prizes and prices. ...
That's not what the poster said...
Let me take a 12-gauge and blow that one into smithereenies.
Most people bid in round thousand dollar numbers. Occasionally, people get into the hundreds. ...
John (sorry for the consecutive posts, but I don't know how to draw in quotes from different posts, mods, and both of these needed responding to...)
I've never found a way, either, John -- I just write my replies in a separate window and do a lot of copy/pasting!I do know how...I'll put a small note down in the Tech Support forum.
How do you do it Ted? Do you just have an amazing memory in general or do you have to cram to remember these numbers? How many prices do you figure you can memorize at any one time?
Who else here thinks that he should get $56,437 in cash?Not me. But, if someone bids perfectly on the showcase, not only do they win both showcases, but they should give the contestant $5,000 cash bonus.
But, if someone bids perfectly on the showcase, not only do they win both showcases, but they should give the contestant $5,000 cash bonus.
There’s an Internet buzz surrounding a “Price is Right” contestant who guessed to the dollar the price of his showcase of gifts during Tuesday’s episode.At least they correctly refer to is as a Showcase, and not a Showcase Showdown.
Postings on message boards at golden-road.net...say one of the site’s regular members was in the audience and had been shouting out pricing answers all during the show. In this case, the audience member, who calls himself “Ted” at golden-road.net, is an expert on pricing these items and has experience giving correct dollar amounts to contestants. “Not sure if I’m welcome at Studio 33 anymore, but I’m sure I’ll find out one of these days,” Ted wrote on a golden-road.net message board.Did they talk to you, Ted, before quoting you here??
A Las Vegas radio station says that it landed an interview with Terry. KQOL-FM identified him as Terry Kneiss. In the interview, Kneiss said he added up the items on his own and got no help from shouts coming from the audience. “I have hearing problem,” he said. He gave this advice to anyone who wishes to replicate his good fortune: “Do your homework. Watch the show, watch the show, watch the show.”I put the emphasis on that line above . It seems like we're hearing a different story from Terry. Maybe he was "encouraged" by TPIR producers to say that if asked??
I put the emphasis on that line above . It seems like we're hearing a different story from Terry. Maybe he was "encouraged" by TPIR producers to say that if asked??Or he just wants to be deemed "Smart". If I were the one to do it, I wouldn't say I got help from anybody.
Seems that such a precise "Double Showcase" guess has never happened in the show's long history.
I used to live in Southern California and was in the audience for a few game shows. They are obviously rigged for ratings! On the show "Card Sharks," some guy on the side of the stage would give hand-signals to the contestants re: whether to say "higher!" or "lower!" It was an eye-opener, and disgusting. Price is Right viewership has gone into the tank since Bob Barker retired... so they hope this "controversial story" helps build some PR and ratings. Sickening.
Another excerpt from the article: Seems that such a precise "Double Showcase" guess has never happened in the show's long history.
Of all the things that are mentioned in the article, this is a glaring error.
Actually, they chose their words very carefully. A "Double Showcase" guess. They avoiding excessive wordiness for the general readership, but it is factually correct. The last showcase exacta was before the DSW rule. Without the word "double," though, would be incorrect, as you say.
Having now perused the show a bit, did anybody notice that they avoided shooting me at all during the one-bids?... They always cut back to Drew when the bidder in the #3 position bid and then had a close up of the bidder in the #4 position. Perhaps they knew ahead of time that I was a "ringer" as it were and avoided showing me giving any perfect bids on the air. But it had been over two years since I had been there, so I kind of doubt that.
Another excerpt from the article:
Of all the things that are mentioned in the article, this is a glaring error. ...
LINK: News coverage (http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/36375364.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUnciatkEP7DhUsr) mentioning Ted and G-R.net
I thought for sure I'd seen that the first perfect bid was on a James episode but That Don Guy, who I've always found to have a pretty good memory about these things, swears up and down that it was on the daytime show, sometime in 1973 or early 1974.
Actual retail price is $13,123! Can you believe that one? ... Can you believe-I can't believe it. Now that's the first time THAT'S ever happened, too! Dennis James saying don't miss the show next week...
Actually, it was on the June 26, 1973 episode -- considerably farther than halfway through the season.
But the final straw was seeing the exact bid reveal on youtube. I havn't watched the show in a month now thanks to the performance, or lack there of, of Drew Carey.
Quick edit - did a bit more reading. Didn't know there was a 50 minute break to the reveal...but still...
I know my opinion is likely in the minority, but I had no problem with how Drew did the reveal for the exacta. In fact, I think it was brilliant. By this point, we'd already had two :dsw:s. I think it was fresh to take such a big moment so non-chalant. He couldn't reveal any excitement about the exact match.
Ok wait a minute, when did this show get rerun. Yesterdays was the st pattys day and todays was the earth day. Did I miss something.You did not miss anything. As far as we know, CBS does not plan to rerun this episode, although I wish they would.
You did not miss anything. As far as we know, CBS does not plan to rerun this episode, although I wish they would.
Ok wait a minute, when did this show get rerun. Yesterdays was the st pattys day and todays was the earth day. Did I miss something.
Great documentary about this is now on YouTube called Perfect Bid.