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Title: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: MrPlinko on January 31, 2019, 09:53:12 AM
Guys,

I find the set of Price to be too overwhelming with color.  There's less of a natural feel to the colors.  With almost a forced circus-like atmosphere of too much "Wow!"  It's almost the feeling of several clowns at a kid's birthday party with the colors.

Go back to even the beginning of the Drew era in Season 37 for several seasons after, and the sets were fine.  Now it's color overkill.

Joe
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: GobGlom on January 31, 2019, 11:43:40 AM
I don't think it's excessively colorful, no more than it used to be, but they could do without the cartoonish asterisks everywhere. HD cameras do make the image brighter.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: Off_trak on January 31, 2019, 08:21:10 PM
The set needs to be bright due to the high def cameras. They need lots of light, apparently, in order to capture the highest quality image.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: imhomerjay on January 31, 2019, 08:36:12 PM
In a word, no.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: ThomHuge on January 31, 2019, 08:44:44 PM
The audience area definitely is, with all the LEDs and garish Goodson asterisks. The only thing that I think is over-the-top on stage are the LEDs on the turntable (both the ones between the screens and on the turntable itself). I prefer the older design that just had color-changing squares, since it kept the focus on Drew. As it is now I feel like the whole turntable is too glitzy and steals attention from Drew and the player, or players during the showcases.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: EvilChameleon on January 31, 2019, 10:12:02 PM
Maybe certain games are too bright now, like Half Off and Punch A Bunch, but the set itself is fine.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 31, 2019, 10:25:38 PM
Punch a Bunch?  Really?  I think the current color scheme is a vast improvement.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on January 31, 2019, 10:31:11 PM
I like the set. I even like the audience panels in the back with the asterisks.

But I like them MORE when there's a unifying theme with the colors. The Premiere show for this season is my favorite.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: priceguy on February 01, 2019, 12:48:10 AM
I wouldn't say that the set is too colourful, but it is a bit sensory overload (just watch Drew make his entrance...ugh). All the video screens on set are constantly in motion; never just a static image. The light panels on the doors can flash and change colour. The door borders/homebase have LED strips that are ever changing colour throughout the show. And the audience area is just plain awful. The giant asterisks and LED pillars make the already small audience area look even more cramped.  Long story short, it's not the amount of colour that irks me, it's the excessive amount of "stuff."
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: Timotheus on February 01, 2019, 08:38:38 AM
I love how colorful the set is. There's a lot of charm to the brown sets of the 70s, but I think the super saturated and bright aesthetic the show uses now is a great fit.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: CBSpromoman on February 01, 2019, 04:37:18 PM

For me, the worst part of the set is the home base monitor wall.

If those monitors were replaced with panels that could be lit with LEDs, it'd be one thing. But they insist on putting animation in all of those monitors and it makes the already bright backdrop that much busier. You lose Drew and the contestant in all the visual noise. It's far too distracting.

I used to run lights for my church and left the booth when the worship pastor insisted on changing things up and requiring that lights ALWAYS be doing something. Sometimes, you stop moving things in the BACKGROUND so you can focus better on what's happening in the FOREGROUND.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: Axl on February 01, 2019, 09:19:32 PM
The set needs to be bright due to the high def cameras. They need lots of light, apparently, in order to capture the highest quality image.

No, contemporary cameras require far, far less light than older cameras.  The colors are strictly an aesthetic choice.

If those monitors were replaced with panels that could be lit with LEDs, it'd be one thing. But they insist on putting animation in all of those monitors and it makes the already bright backdrop that much busier. You lose Drew and the contestant in all the visual noise. It's far too distracting.

I think there's a bit too much animation in general.  What's the point of animating the reveals in Card Game, for instance?  It only throws off the timing.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: Flerbert419 on February 01, 2019, 09:43:14 PM
What's the point of animating the reveals in Card Game, for instance?

To make up for Drew's lack of flourish and suspense when reading the price, they took the opportunity to program him out of the game.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: ThomHuge on February 01, 2019, 11:18:22 PM
To make up for Drew's lack of flourish and suspense when reading the price, they took the opportunity to program him out of the game.

I think that's part of it, but if you look at other game shows on the air right now (I'm thinking Jeopardy and Wheel mostly), they have sets that light up and change color too. Wheel has video walls everywhere, and the last time I paid attention, the one behind the players had a video loop. Not enough to be really distracting but you knew it was there. Their sets feel appropriate for their atmospheres--Jeopardy is really serious and Wheel is more relaxed and fun.

Price has always been kind of like an all-out party atmosphere, and I think their set and color choices reflect that. There's always something flashing, changing color, animating, something; enough to get a casual channel-changer to tune in and stay tuned. Used to be seeing Bob Barker was enough to do that, but without him I agree with Flerbert, they have to up their game in other ways to grab and hold attention.

On the topic of more light vs less light--I actually think the set is lit a lot less brightly than it used to be overall, since so many pieces of it light up on their own and they don't need to flood the stage quite so much. I keep an eye on the doors to see that; if you watch the parts of them that don't light up, for the most part they're not lit brightly at all. The only exceptions are when someone is standing next to them. Door #1 really shows it, since anytime they turn the lights up even a little, that orange color really picks it up.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: JayC on February 02, 2019, 12:18:41 PM
Price has always been kind of like an all-out party atmosphere, and I think their set and color choices reflect that. There's always something flashing, changing color, animating, something; enough to get a casual channel-changer to tune in and stay tuned. Used to be seeing Bob Barker was enough to do that, but without him I agree with Flerbert, they have to up their game in other ways to grab and hold attention.
There's also the matter of the difference in the need and how to grab attention in today's world being different from when Bob hosted. Yes Bob was enough of a draw on his own, but it's not just because of him not being there that they had to radically change the set and certain way things are revealed. Today's world has much more things competing for our attention then when Bob hosted, and high-tech sets and graphics are the modern way to hold attention.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: CBSpromoman on February 02, 2019, 05:41:59 PM
There's also the matter of the difference in the need and how to grab attention in today's world being different from when Bob hosted. Yes Bob was enough of a draw on his own, but it's not just because of him not being there that they had to radically change the set and certain way things are revealed. Today's world has much more things competing for our attention then when Bob hosted, and high-tech sets and graphics are the modern way to hold attention.

I've heard this argument before. The thing is, if we really accept the fact that there's too much grabbing for our attention, we ought to embrace even the few minutes per hour that a less "noisy" set would provide without the constant animation.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: JayC on February 02, 2019, 05:50:57 PM
Don't get me wrong, I grew up in a time when things didn't need to be as "noisy" and I dislike when it goes to excess and gets too gimmicky. It's just what it is.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: ThomHuge on February 02, 2019, 05:59:50 PM
I've heard this argument before. The thing is, if we really accept the fact that there's too much grabbing for our attention, we ought to embrace even the few minutes per hour that a less "noisy" set would provide without the constant animation.

Remember something else--they're not just thinking about you, the tuned-in viewer whose attention they already have. They're also thinking about the casual channel-surfer, and the 599 other channels they have to compete with. Something that looks bright and colorful and flashy is going to grab your attention and, at the very least, interest you enough to stop for a few minutes you otherwise wouldn't have.

Then there's also the Millennial question. This generation is used to an information overload, resulting in an ever-shortening attention span. The overload of light and color and animation is a way to directly market to that segment of the viewing audience--give them enough constant stimulation that they won't need to look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: CBSpromoman on February 02, 2019, 10:11:20 PM
Remember something else--they're not just thinking about you, the tuned-in viewer whose attention they already have. They're also thinking about the casual channel-surfer, and the 599 other channels they have to compete with. Something that looks bright and colorful and flashy is going to grab your attention and, at the very least, interest you enough to stop for a few minutes you otherwise wouldn't have.

That's a bit of a reach. The animation in the monitors isn't flashy enough to stop someone flipping through channels. It IS annoying enough to aggravate someone who's stopped long enough to watch and finds the backdrop distracting.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: ThomHuge on February 02, 2019, 11:01:15 PM
That's a bit of a reach. The animation in the monitors isn't flashy enough to stop someone flipping through channels. It IS annoying enough to aggravate someone who's stopped long enough to watch and finds the backdrop distracting.

Forgive me, I should've been more specific. I wasn't thinking about animation when I was talking about grabbing channel-surfers (if I made that implication previously I misspoke and I apologize for the confusion). What I should've said was the fact that the screens are bright and colorful, just like the rest of the things that light up, but they can also change for special events and show specialized graphics or logos. However distracting I think it comes off sometimes, I do like that they at least make an effort to customize their graphics when an opportunity presents itself, and as someone who does that kind of thing myself, I'm always curious to see what's next.

I won't dispute your point about them being annoying once you tune in though. The older LED wall that they used to have when the new turntable was built was a much better choice, since it stopped flashing and changing color once the "action" was done (like a player coming up on stage or whatnot). I think having animated graphics on all those screens all the time is like the new wall saying "I'M HERE, LOOK AT ME" during the whole act. The regular animation with the dollar signs at the edges isn't quite so bad, but some of the ones they've had over the last couple of seasons have been way too much. (Yes, I think it doesn't bother younger Millennials as much as it does me.)
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: Drew72 on February 06, 2019, 08:34:14 AM
I like the current set with the exception of video panels on the home base. As others have mentioned, they are distracting and in my opinion unnecessary.  There is already enough light and color going on in that room without video screens showing motion on that part of the stage.  I prefer the previous home base with colored squares.    No problem with video screens in general... just not there.
Title: Re: Is the Set too Colorful and Clashing Now?
Post by: brettreilly on March 13, 2019, 03:35:42 PM
I like the current set with the exception of video panels on the home base. As others have mentioned, they are distracting and in my opinion unnecessary.  There is already enough light and color going on in that room without video screens showing motion on that part of the stage.  I prefer the previous home base with colored squares.    No problem with video screens in general... just not there.

Agree. I personally just miss the S35 set but I know that with HD things had to be updated...