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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: vadernader on June 05, 2010, 12:26:24 PM
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Drew Just Tweeted That Check Game Is Probably Coming Back But Credit Card Is Probably Not.. :( Thoughts?
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Probably too many prizes for their taste, and maybe the Internet is aging the prop?
I dunno, I won't miss it THAT much but it would have been nice to keep the unique 5-prizer.
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Once again, they'll retire a game which has nothing wrong.
I think that they should keep only Double Prices, Pick-a-Number, Squeeze Play, One Right Price and Most Expensive. That would not cost much, after all...
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Probably too many prizes for their taste, and maybe the Internet is aging the prop?
The Internet is aging the prop? ATMs still exist. Could've just slapped a plasma screen on it and called it a day. Credit Card was awesome!
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Well, so much for "We're refurbishing the prop for HD" story. Now, friends, we have tangible evidence that they've been misleading us (not G-R specifically but the viewing public) on this. We can now officially start questioning their word about everything else they've told us. And for those things that they HAVE told us, we can start to wonder what they have NOT told us.
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In the day and age of the slamma-quickie...the 5.5 Credit Card just had no more use by the current lineup writing staff.
Besides...they had to make room for Mice Game and Roshambo!
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I kind of liked Credit Card, and I didn't see anything wrong with the game that warranted its' retirement. This just further shows that the current powers that be don't have any idea what the heck they're doing.
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Stupid.
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Stupid.
Again.
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Well, so much for "We're refurbishing the prop for HD" story. Now, friends, we have tangible evidence that they've been misleading us (not G-R specifically but the viewing public) on this. We can now officially start questioning their word about everything else they've told us. And for those things that they HAVE told us, we can start to wonder what they have NOT told us.
That they have Hitler's Brain, and it is in charge of The Price Is Right!
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Well, so much for "We're refurbishing the prop for HD" story. Now, friends, we have tangible evidence that they've been misleading us (not G-R specifically but the viewing public) on this. We can now officially start questioning their word about everything else they've told us. And for those things that they HAVE told us, we can start to wonder what they have NOT told us.
Uhh...no.
In this instance, we have tangible evidence only that they said one thing and did another. There is no tangible evidence that they intentionally misled anyone, since it's just as possible that they intended to refurb the game and after saying so, further discussions to which we weren't privy led them to change their mind.
This is hardly evidence of some dark conceit.
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I liked Credit Card, it was different. Shame to see it go if it does.
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@Promoman: I didn't say they intentionally mislead us, just that they mislead us. I probably should've chosen different phrasing, but my meaning was as you said that they said one thing, and then did another. (I wasn't trying to imply a dark conspiracy, it's entirely possible that they simply had a change in plans). My point is still valid though, take everything they say with a grain of salt.
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@Promoman: I didn't say they intentionally mislead us, just that they mislead us. I probably should've chosen different phrasing, but my meaning was as you said that they said one thing, and then did another. (I wasn't trying to imply a dark conspiracy, it's entirely possible that they simply had a change in plans). My point is still valid though, take everything they say with a grain of salt.
Even so, when has this NOT been the case? Even Barker didn't always give the real story about certain things he didn't want disclosed. So why are we suddenly acting as if only NOW should we begin to question what they tell us?
I don't disagree that there could easily be instances in which we might get incomplete info or info that is subject to change; I just don't really see what's different now versus what's been going on the past few years, particularly since Roger left.
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The thing is, "they" don't owe "us" any explanations or behind the scenes info.
Whatever they decide to put out is, of course, going to be spun and filtered through whatever vision they or their corporate parents want to provide.
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@Promoman: I think what makes it different this time around (at least for me) is the fact that they're now speaking directly to viewers courtesy of Twitter and PiR.Com. These venues give us better access to them and vice versa, only now we have multiple people talking to us about behind-the-scenes goings-on. That's a little different than something Bob might've said on the air; now the producers are opening up and speaking directly to us about what they're up to.
Kathy saying Credit Card is being refurbished might be true at one point in history (a planned refurb at any rate). Drew saying it's probably not coming back at a later time could mean that the prop we know isn't coming back but that the game lives on, or that the entire game is scrapped. The possibility of a fractured message is what I'm thinking about--Kathy might have information Drew doesn't, or vice versa. Before we got it all from Bob (or someone) on the air and from a few conversations with Roger around here; now we've got everyone talking, so things are bound to get confusing sometimes.
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The thing is, "they" don't owe "us" any explanations or behind the scenes info.
Exactly. "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
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I think what makes it different this time around (at least for me) is the fact that they're now speaking directly to viewers courtesy of Twitter and PiR.Com.
Back when they did a Q&A on the CBS TPiR page, a question was posed, asking why the announcer wasn't shown on camera. The answer given had to to with Fremantle's "policy" on showing announcers on camera. We know for a fact that this was inaccurate, but it was the cover story.
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I remember the days when everybody was wonder when Superball!! was retired. It hadn't been played in about a year, but the show kept answering people's emails about it by saying "We're still playing it once a month." That was 1998. Honestly, the show is keeping us better-informed now.
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The sense of entitlement a lot of people have really needs to be diminished. I can't think of too many other shows that still give fans a lot of direct interaction and access into a lot of the inner workings, regardless of how "guarded" it is.
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The sense of entitlement a lot of people have really needs to be diminished.
The sense of haughtiness and audacity that follows you around like a shadow really needs to be diminished. Who are you to tell a whole group of people we need to want less access to the inner workings of the show, or how to feel in any way whatsoever?
Jeopardy...Wheel...pretty much any show that has a Web site has given their viewers access to behind the scenes workings for years now (heck, Jeopardy even released an entire DVD on the subject). Price is actually one of the laggarts to do so.
@PiR85: quite right, back when they had the Price Mailbag they did do a fair job of answering e-mails, but that was more reactive than it was proactive. What they do now is about half and half, equal parts reactive and proactive, when you think about it.
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The sense of haughtiness and audacity that follows you around like a shadow really needs to be diminished.
Please, spare the drama. (And find better comebacks than just rewording what other people say.) If you have an issue with me, take it up in one of the many forms of contact in my profile. Don't derail this thread.
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Jeopardy...Wheel...pretty much any show that has a Web site has given their viewers access to behind the scenes workings for years now (heck, Jeopardy even released an entire DVD on the subject). Price is actually one of the laggarts to do so.
Good for those shows. But it doesn't change the fact that the viewer is entitled to nothing except the show that is broadcast. Anything else is lagniappe.
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Anything else is lagniappe.
Since I had to look it up, I'm sure I'm not alone:
A lagniappe (pronounced /ˈlænjæp/, LAN-yap) is a small gift given to a customer by a merchant at the time of a purchase (such as a 13th donut when buying a dozen), or more broadly, "something given or obtained gratuitously or by way of good measure." The word is chiefly used in the Gulf Coast of the United States, especially Louisiana.
The word entered English from Louisiana French, in turn derived from the American Spanish phrase la ñapa ('something that is added' ). The term has been traced back to the Quechua word yapay ('to increase; to add'). In Andean markets it is still customary to ask for a yapa when making a purchase. The seller usually responds by throwing in a little extra. Although this is an old custom, it is still widely practiced today in Louisiana. This custom is also widely practiced in southeast Asia. Street vendors, especially vegetable vendors, are expected to throw in a few green chillies or a small bunch of cilantro with a purchase.
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Since I had to look it up, I'm sure I'm not alone:
I knew what lagniappe is, and I agree with his point. We're not really entitled to know every little thing. This show has spawned this entire internet subculture that no one ever would have imagined. Still, though they make it for us, it's still their show. It's their decisions that affect whether we continue to watch, but they get to make those decisions.
Like so many other parts of the show, the way in which we get backstage info and from whom is changing. We have to live with it.
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@Promoman: I got what he meant in context, but it was a word that I've never actually run into before (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpockSpeak), in casual conversation (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MotorMouth) or otherwise (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SesquipedalianLoquaciousness), so I figured better to make sure there wasn't a hidden meaning or anything.
Oh, I never said I disagreed with his point, in fact I agree with him 100% (mark this as a historic occasion, Mr. Brown and I actually agree on something). I wasn't saying that viewers should demand to see the backstage workings of a show, this one or any other. I was just pointing out (not unfairly I think) that PiR didn't rush to open their production in quite the same way as Jeopardy and Wheel did. Now that they are, it seems like everyone's speaking to the fans, and it's making for a grand old time as we get conflicting information from different people.
My point is, if they're going to give us tidbits of info, that it should be kept consistent. If it's something like Credit Card, info should come from Kathy if she's the one who breaks the story. If Drew brings us something, let him be the one to update us.
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I was just pointing out (not unfairly I think) that PiR didn't rush to open their production in quite the same way as Jeopardy and Wheel did. Now that they are, it seems like everyone's speaking to the fans, and it's making for a grand old time as we get conflicting information from different people.
My point is, if they're going to give us tidbits of info, that it should be kept consistent. If it's something like Credit Card, info should come from Kathy if she's the one who breaks the story. If Drew brings us something, let him be the one to update us.
That's a great idea in theory...unfortunately, it'll never happen. There's an old joke in TV that no one is worse at communication than those in the communication business, and you'd be surprised by how accurate a statement that is.
We either have to accept the fact that multiple people may be in a position to give us information, and that some of them may not know details others do, or we have to pare it down to one single person giving us everything, thereby curtailing all of this openness we've been getting over the past couple of seasons.
And even then, though the message will be more consistent, that one person still may not know all there is to know, so we'd be back to square one in terms of being misinformed.
For those of us who can agree that it's a good thing that we're getting direct feedback from the show's staff, we have to accept that multiple sources that may occasionally conflict is better than one single source who may or may not know any of the really correct answers.
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For those of us who can agree that it's a good thing that we're getting direct feedback from the show's staff, we have to accept that multiple sources that may occasionally conflict is better than one single source who may or may not know any of the really correct answers.
Roger, when was the last time brtsimpson142 agreed with not one but two people in the same thread?
And right on about the "folks in communication are the worst at communicating" bit too.
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I was just pointing out (not unfairly I think) that PiR didn't rush to open their production in quite the same way as Jeopardy and Wheel did.
I completely agree, I never understood why TPIR was never as open as those shows either.
Oh, wait! Now I remember...
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We either have to accept the fact that multiple people may be in a position to give us information, and that some of them may not know details others do, or we have to pare it down to one single person giving us everything, thereby curtailing all of this openness we've been getting over the past couple of seasons.
There's also the fact that not all information is created equal, and circumstances can dictate just how much "business" the fans have knowing. If a cast member is missing from a show in order to accept an industry award out of town, he probably doesn't mind telling people. If that same cast member has to miss some tapings because he needs emergency surgery on his testicles, he probably doesn't feel like broadcasting it to the world.
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Gah, well nothing official heard yet, so, I'm not jumping to any conclusions, but if it is, and if the Rich rumours are true, first Rich goes, then Credit, now what? Things come in threes....
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chad1m & brtsimpson142,
There's a total of 20 users that have selected to ignore you. That's a small percentage of our membership. If you guys want to keep going at it with each other, 100% of our membership will be unable to hear what you want to say here.
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If you guys want to keep going at it with each other, 100% of our membership will be unable to hear what you want to say here.
I believe I've made it very clear on multiple occasions that I wish not to be involved in this bottom-level sniping, even in this very thread. Your threats to ban me are very disappointing and if this is how you wish to operate, I have no problems voluntarily ceasing my posting here and continuing elsewhere.
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Totally your call. You're aware of my expectations.
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I was the one who asked him that on twitter, I felt we deserved a real answer, and we got it, not too happy with it though
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The fact of the matter is that Chad is absolutely right. We aren't entitled to anything. For those who have been members since season 36 and before have had the ROYAL fan treatment. Treatment that I have NEVER seen any show or network provide. Barker and his crew almost treated us as if we were employees, taking our suggestions to heart and even putting some of them on the air. Again, I don't know of any show that would have done this. Legally, they shouldn't and they're not suppose to. Things are changing around price. Some good, same bad, some terrible. They don't have to tell us anything. They don't have to answer our questions. They could just give the form response and tell us to keep watching. But they don't. So Chad is right, we shouldn't feel entitled to anything. We should be thankful that they correspond with us and not push the envelope any further.
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I was the one who asked him that on twitter, I felt we deserved a real answer, and we got it, not too happy with it though
Thanks for asking it. I'm not too happy either, but I guess life moves on.
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[N]ot too happy with it though
At least thanks to you, we know now that Check Game isn't on the chopping block.
...yet.
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At least thanks to you, we know now that Check Game isn't on the chopping block.
...yet.
Exactly my thoughts. :/
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In this moment I hate this game!
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You hate Credit Card ?
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You hate Credit Card ?
in this moment yes!
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Are you saying that since Credit Card has most likely been retired, you hate the game? If I'm understand you correctly, that doesn't make much sense.
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Are you saying that since Credit Card has most likely been retired, you hate the game? If I'm understand you correctly, that doesn't make much sense.
Yeah, it really doesn't. Why would you hate a game just because it's retired?
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If I'm understand you correctly, that doesn't make much sense.
Precisely why I've stopped trying.
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The fact of the matter is that Chad is absolutely right. We aren't entitled to anything. For those who have been members since season 36 and before have had the ROYAL fan treatment. Treatment that I have NEVER seen any show or network provide. Barker and his crew almost treated us as if we were employees, taking our suggestions to heart and even putting some of them on the air. Again, I don't know of any show that would have done this. Legally, they shouldn't and they're not suppose to. Things are changing around price. Some good, same bad, some terrible. They don't have to tell us anything. They don't have to answer our questions. They could just give the form response and tell us to keep watching. But they don't. So Chad is right, we shouldn't feel entitled to anything. We should be thankful that they correspond with us and not push the envelope any further.
Very well put, and not nearly well enough understood by many on here. Thanks.