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Title: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Spmahn on November 30, 2020, 02:13:09 PM
https://www.vulture.com/2020/11/classic-the-price-is-right-episodes-streaming-pluto-tv.html?fbclid=IwAR1BglLEmQSwAjRffuHHiT2Z80-VTsEFpwoM8YoDLZkmFFi9WNfM1L_Re30

Well that came out of nowhere, although I had heard rumors this was coming a few months back, but nothing recent.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on November 30, 2020, 02:18:11 PM
Just seeing this on their official twitter....(that sprung up fast), looks like the Fur Ban is still in effect if this is to be read correctly. It's a start though. https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1333487971308367874
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on November 30, 2020, 02:23:55 PM
Disappointing that nothing prior to ‘82 will be seen. If I had to guess, based on how Buzzr TV works, this probably won’t be an endless loop of every episode from ‘82 on, because of the time it takes to digitize episodes, clean them up, edit out music cues or anything else that can’t air, it’s likely that they’ll be dumped in monthly or periodic batches, like 30 or 60 at a time that will just rotate in a cycle for a month until they have the next batch ready, etc.

Hopefully Freemantle doesn’t decide to crack down on Youtube uploads because of this, because obviously there’s going to be a lot of noteworthy episodes or moments we’re all going to want to see, but none of use are going to be able to keep this running 24/7.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on November 30, 2020, 02:29:28 PM
Can I make a request-

Can we not complain about the years they're not airing and be happy for at least a little while? Reruns of Barker era episodes haven't been on in 20+ years.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on November 30, 2020, 02:31:19 PM
Disappointing that nothing prior to ‘82 will be seen. If I had to guess, based on how Buzzr TV works, this probably won’t be an endless loop of every episode from ‘82 on, because of the time it takes to digitize episodes, clean them up, edit out music cues or anything else that can’t air, it’s likely that they’ll be dumped in monthly or periodic batches, like 30 or 60 at a time that will just rotate in a cycle for a month until they have the next batch ready, etc.

Hopefully Freemantle doesn’t decide to crack down on Youtube uploads because of this, because obviously there’s going to be a lot of noteworthy episodes or moments we’re all going to want to see, but none of use are going to be able to keep this running 24/7.

Yeah and they've already said they are gonna do themes (like Christmas themed shows for example) around what they run, so what you say makes sense on that level at least. Will be interesting to see though. And I hope they don't either, especially considering the fact some of the episodes there now are ones that otherwise won't see air because of the furs in them, let alone ones older than 82 as well in addition. To lose those would be a major major loss, as who knows if or when they'll ever be made available again. Let's hope such a loss doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Hastin on November 30, 2020, 02:33:44 PM
Very excited to have this on as background content while I work. Can't wait to see some retired games, different eras, and just some vintage TPiR goodness.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on November 30, 2020, 02:34:31 PM
Can I make a request-

Can we not complain about the years they're not airing and be happy for at least a little while? Reruns of Barker era episodes haven't been on in 20+ years.

I mean, it's great they are getting reshown in some capacity, no question about that, just a little disappointing they seemingly aren't running a pretty significant part of the show's history in any capacity. Even GSN ran non fur shows from the first decade when they had it, so I don't see why they couldn't do the same here. But I suppose time will tell just what they decide to do. Will be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: wheelfan1991 on November 30, 2020, 02:53:23 PM
Good grief. We finally get classic episodes airing again, something we've been wanting ever since GSN axed them, and y'all are still not happy. Be grateful we are getting them at all.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Torgo on November 30, 2020, 02:55:26 PM
Get ready for a ravaging of YouTube channels.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on November 30, 2020, 03:01:01 PM
I’m absolutely thrilled that we’re getting this, people have been asking for Bob repeats for a long time. Yeah, so maybe we still have to wait on seeing the elusive second appearance of Professor Price or whatever, but who cares? This is still great, when these shows aired on GSN 20+ years ago, a lot of them weren’t recorded or documented, so they’ll be new again for most of us.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: PimpinJC on November 30, 2020, 03:23:25 PM
Recappers get ready  :lol:
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on November 30, 2020, 03:58:45 PM
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Good grief. We finally get classic episodes airing again, something we've been wanting ever since GSN axed them, and y'all are still not happy. Be grateful we are getting them at all.


I can't speak for anyone, but the only thing that would be a cause for concern is if YouTube uploads of TPIR have to be taken down due to 24/7 Barker-era episodes, as mentioned.  I don't know; I'm not upset at all about reruns to Pluto being limited to 1982 and beyond, but I've been used to no Price on GSN for a long time.  It is a blessing that Fremantle hasn't given people a hard time with having classic PIR on YouTube (I think Sony has an issue with past Jeopardy episodes on YouTube for whatever reason).  It is rather nice to go to YouTube to watch a classic episode every once in awhile, so if I'm not excited about this news, that is why (if Fremantle bans episodes being on YouTube).

Apologies for "whining" about that; if it happens, that would suck, I agree, but I guess I shouldn't worry about something that might not happen or that hasn't happened yet
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Alfonzo on November 30, 2020, 04:16:24 PM
Can I make a request-

Can we not complain about the years they're not airing and be happy for at least a little while? Reruns of Barker era episodes haven't been on in 20+ years.

No harm in letting your feelings be known. Heck, maybe if enough people say something they might break out some of the older episodes. I would personally love to see more episodes from around the late 70s that have never been rerun.

That having been said it certainly doesn't mean that I don't appreciate Price reruns with Bob being shown in ANY form! 😃
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on November 30, 2020, 04:23:01 PM
No harm in letting your feelings be known. Heck, maybe if enough people say something they might break out dome of the older episodes. I would personally love to see more episodes from around the late 70s that have never been rerun.

I sorta wonder as well......given this being the case now....when the time were to come where Barker passed away whenever that is to happen, do you think even then any fur era shows will be reran? Specifically of course the unaired ones/ones that had furs moreso than ones that did not. I'd hope at some point that might get lifted, but it's hard to say for sure.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: asd2001 on November 30, 2020, 04:24:51 PM
Does anyone know exactly what time the channel will be debuting? According to the YouTube video linked below, it will be on Channel 163.

Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on November 30, 2020, 04:27:17 PM
I would guess that we’ll eventually get the fur episodes when Bob is no longer with us, even if they air them with a disclaimer similar to what is done with culturally insensitive cartoons from the 30’s and 40’s. Worst case scenario, edit out any segment featuring fur stuff, it would be awkward to do that, but I’d rather see those episodes edited than not at all.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: iluvpir on November 30, 2020, 06:13:43 PM
Does anyone know exactly what time the channel will be debuting? According to the YouTube video linked below, it will be on Channel 163.


The official YouTube channel replied to a comment asking what time. They said 12AM on December 1st. They did not specify if that's eastern time though.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: thepriceis_J on November 30, 2020, 07:29:09 PM
I mean, it's great they are getting reshown in some capacity, no question about that, just a little disappointing they seemingly aren't running a pretty significant part of the show's history in any capacity. Even GSN ran non fur shows from the first decade when they had it, so I don't see why they couldn't do the same here. But I suppose time will tell just what they decide to do. Will be interesting to see.
While the first decade is a significant part of the show's history full of them finding their footing, converting to an hour, and creating a base foundation for games, many of which still exist to this day, I'd argue that this next decade of the show is just as significant a part of the show's history. While they were gaining their footing, this stretch is when they rose to the top of the crop in daytime. They rose to #1 in game shows (and eventually #1 in daytime) and they had fun doing it. The chemistry between Bob, Johnny, Janice, Dian, Holly, and eventually Rod and Kathleen, made the show during this period more of a party than it had ever been. If the show doesn't reach this apex in the 80s, while it might still exist in the 90s, it doesn't become cemented as an American institution.

There are still plenty of unconfirmed and unrecapped shows from this particular era even though a good chunk did air on GSN at one point, so it'll will be nice to fill in blanks. Also, just like when Sale of the Century started being rerun on GSN, it'll be nice to see the shows in broadcast, non-VHS, and non-WinTV quality.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TinoStar11 on November 30, 2020, 07:31:59 PM
The official YouTube channel replied to a comment asking what time. They said 12AM on December 1st. They did not specify if that's eastern time though.

Its 12am EST
https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1333567020424601601
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on November 30, 2020, 07:40:39 PM
While the first decade is a significant part of the show's history full of them finding their footing, converting to an hour, and creating a base foundation for games, many of which still exist to this day, I'd argue that this next decade of the show is just as significant a part of the show's history. While they were gaining their footing, this stretch is when they rose to the top of the crop in daytime. They rose to #1 in game shows (and eventually #1 in daytime) and they had fun doing it. The chemistry between Bob, Johnny, Janice, Dian, Holly, and eventually Rod and Kathleen, made the show during this period more of a party than it had ever been. If the show doesn't reach this apex in the 80s, while it might still exist in the 90s, it doesn't become cemented as an American institution.

There are still plenty of unconfirmed and unrecapped shows from this particular era even though a good chunk did air on GSN at one point, so it'll will be nice to fill in blanks. Also, just like when Sale of the Century started being rerun on GSN, it'll be nice to see the shows in broadcast, non-VHS, and non-WinTV quality.

Yeah I mean I get that, but still a big part of the show's lineage to leave out. But I see your point, this was the golden era for the show pretty much. I wonder if they start from the Season 11 premiere, that one doesn't exist on YouTube at present nor do any shows from that first week, earliest I found was September 14th, or the Tuesday show of week 2. I also wonder if unlike the GSN airings, they will keep the ticket and CNAOS plugs in before each Showcase Showdown. Those would be really fun to see, with those not shown at all since they first aired or were reran in the Summer of their respective years.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: CaseyBuck on November 30, 2020, 07:49:44 PM
Wow, this is a huge get! What took so damn long? :P

I'm not surprised that they're skipping the pre-1982 episodes, as they would have to painstakingly cherry-pick out any episodes that don't have furs, a process that took GSN a long time to do (which is why they didn't air TPiR until late 1996).

It'll be cool when they get to the latter half of Season 12, since that's where GSN stopped when they lost the rights in April 2000.

Note that PlutoTV's parent company is ViacomCBS, so this is still within the CBS family. I bet that Les Moonves's departure likely allowed this to finally happen.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pannoni1 on November 30, 2020, 07:59:59 PM
To quote the current Five Below campaign: Yes! .... Yes! .... YES!

Regarding potential takedowns, I'd only be concerned about uploading what they've posted at this point, given that BUZZR isn't going after any shows that aired on older platforms (GSN, USA, original broadcasts). In fact, Sony seems to have gotten a bit lax with Wheel as of late, unlike Jeopardy! which is known even to be removed on platforms like Dailymotion. At least its not ABC soaps since recently, I had two accounts taken down from Disney about two soaps that haven't been seen perhaps since their original broadcasts in the 1980s/90s: All My Children and One Life To Live.

I'm especially looking forward towards episodes from the 1984-1990 period since with the exception of the 1986 portion of Season 15, few episodes from the period were rerun by GSN. There were a lot more playings of games like Golden Road and 3 Strikes (both for four and five digit cars) in those days in addition to rather obscure retired ones like Walk of Fame, On The Nose and Add Em Up. We'd also look forward to things like Johnny's last episode, interim period between his passing and Rod Roddy's, the short-lived musical cues from the 1983 package before being phased out, and even many of the set changes that took place among certain games like Lucky Seven, Golden Road, and Danger Price. I'm certainly going to check these out!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on November 30, 2020, 08:03:36 PM
To quote the current Five Below campaign: Yes! .... Yes! .... YES!

Regarding potential takedowns, I'd only be concerned about uploading what they've posted at this point, given that BUZZR isn't going after any shows that aired on older platforms (GSN, USA, original broadcasts). In fact, Sony seems to have gotten a bit lax with Wheel as of late, unlike Jeopardy! which is known even to be removed on platforms like Dailymotion. At least its not ABC soaps since recently, I had two accounts taken down from Disney about two soaps that haven't been seen perhaps since their original broadcasts in the 1980s/90s: All My Children and One Life To Live.

I'm especially looking forward towards episodes from the 1984-1990 period since with the exception of the 1986 portion of Season 15, few episodes from the period were rerun by GSN. There were a lot more playings of games like Golden Road and 3 Strikes (both for four and five digit cars) in those days in addition to rather obscure retired ones like Walk of Fame, On The Nose and Add Em Up. We'd also look forward to things like Johnny's last episode, interim period between his passing and Rod Roddy's, the short-lived musical cues from the 1983 package before being phased out, and even many of the set changes that took place among certain games like Lucky Seven, Golden Road, and Danger Price. I'm certainly going to check these out!

I forgot about Johnny's last show....I've been wanting to see that FOREVER, glad you mentioned that. That'll definitely be one to watch out for. Also as an aside on Jeopardy, if you or others alike don't know, archive.org has a TON of old shows uploaded to it dating back to 1984. So if you are looking to get a fix of that, can find it there with a quick video search.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: blozier2006 on November 30, 2020, 08:45:30 PM
I'm not surprised that they're skipping the pre-1982 episodes, as they would have to painstakingly cherry-pick out any episodes that don't have furs, a process that took GSN a long time to do (which is why they didn't air TPiR until late 1996).
You'd think that documentation from that cherry-picking would still exist somewhere, thus making the job easier to do now than it was then (like, a "master list" of fur/non-fur shows).
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on November 30, 2020, 09:52:38 PM
If anyone is interested.....the official Facebook Page for the channel posted the opening segment to one of the episodes they are to air (was also featured in the promo, you should recognize the woman who plays Lucky Seven here, unfortunately not quite wisely however ultimately), with a Code number given in comments of #4581. Whether they start with this episode or not remains to be seen (I could see them doing it if they are posting this clip from it ahead of the channel launch, but shall see). Worth watching anyway to whet your appetites a little bit.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=112691210657301&id=103877634871992&m_entstream_source=video_home&player_suborigin=entry_point&player_format=permalink&anchor_composer=false

EDITED TO ADD: Looking at the FAQ, Show #4581 is the first show of the 2nd week of Season 11 with an airdate of September 13th, so it could be they are indeed starting there. Why they'd be omitting the premiere week I don't know, tape damage perhaps? I can't imagine any furs were offered there, since it's been established Season 11 began the non-fur era, but would be kind of a curious decision if they are indeed skipping over it.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: JayC on November 30, 2020, 11:01:47 PM
I'm actually very surprised they're going back to the 80s for the episodes. When there were rumors of Barker era Price possibly coming to Pluto I really thought it was going to be just the more recent seasons. Quite understandable they're not going to air seasons that had furs as prizes, getting 80s episodes is more than enough of a treat.

Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 12:06:09 AM
So it's 12am eastern......December 1st and I don't see a channel launched yet? Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: tpirguyMN on December 01, 2020, 12:11:39 AM
So it's 12am eastern......December 1st and I don't see a channel launched yet? Did I miss something?

Try refreshing.  It showed up for me a few minutes after 11pm CT.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: CaseyBuck on December 01, 2020, 12:11:59 AM
It's up!

https://pluto.tv/live-tv/tpir-the-barker-era

EDIT: There's a transparent "Plinko chip" as the lower-right corner bug. Cute! Also, playing right now appears to be #4583D.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 12:21:59 AM
It's up!

https://pluto.tv/live-tv/tpir-the-barker-era

EDIT: There's a transparent "Plinko chip" as the lower-right corner bug. Cute! Also, playing right now appears to be #4583D.

Bookmarked this, thank you, and to tpirguyMN too. Interesting they are starting middle of week 2...must be no particular order they're going in. The original article did mention memorable moments/contestants and shows being featured....so that would make sense.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: nbuckler14 on December 01, 2020, 12:25:15 AM
EDIT: There's a transparent "Plinko chip" as the lower-right corner bug. Cute!

I noticed that too and I love it! Also to those who are watching on the Roku app like me, if it's not showing up for you yet, close out the app and reopen it and it should be there, since we don't have a refresh option. (that I know of)

I'm so glad they did this!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on December 01, 2020, 12:26:39 AM
I’m going to bed now, gotta get up in the morning. Can any West Coast / Night Owl viewers keep a running list of what airs overnight?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 12:26:49 AM
Looks like no ticket plugs in these. They cut to Bob clean for first SCSD. I assume the CNAOS plug will be cut as well.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: GrandGame1440 on December 01, 2020, 12:34:34 AM
This is the best entertainment news I’ve seen all year! Also I’m so glad to see so many familiar faces still around here. I might have to drop by more often in that case. Loving this channel so far!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: magic#92 on December 01, 2020, 12:35:34 AM
I’m watching on my smart TV right now. So far, so good (though the announcer is referring to Cliffhangers as “Cliff Hanger”).
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: bigblue999 on December 01, 2020, 12:41:55 AM
The voiceover sounds like Rich Fields. Am I the only one who thinks it’s him?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Combs on December 01, 2020, 12:44:12 AM
It'll be cool when they get to the latter half of Season 12, since that's where GSN stopped when they lost the rights in April 2000.

I remember when GSN was airing TPIR from 1996 to April 1998 they would air 1976-1977 episodes on Mondays, 1979-1980 episodes on Tuesdays, 1982-1983 episodes on Wednesdays, 1986-1987 episodes on Thursdays, 1991-1992 episodes on Fridays, and 1991-1992 episodes on Saturdays (which was different from the Friday episodes). That was a *Wonderful* schedule. From April 1998 to 2000, GSN only aired episodes of TPIR from 1981-1983, except for Win TV which had more variety, but I found that practice to be ruined because the episode image was reduced to make room for the Win TV graphic.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: kslingo on December 01, 2020, 12:51:53 AM
I made a discord for us to discuss the episodes in real time if anyone wants to join

https://discord.gg/rAbQgRHF
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: CaseyBuck on December 01, 2020, 12:52:19 AM
Consolation plugs! Yes! :)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 12:53:27 AM
I remember when GSN was airing TPIR from 1996 to April 1998 they would air 1976-1977 episodes on Mondays, 1979-1980 episodes on Tuesdays, 1982-1983 episodes on Wednesdays, 1986-1987 episodes on Thursdays, 1991-1992 episodes on Fridays, and 1991-1992 episodes on Saturdays (which was different from the Friday episodes). That was a *Wonderful* schedule. From April 1998 to 2000, GSN only aired episodes of TPIR from 1981-1983, except for Win TV which had more variety, but I found that practice to be ruined because the episode image was reduced to make room for the Win TV graphic.

It's interesting how the 91-92 shows, the most recent at the time, got more play than the others, airing twice. And if I recall viewing the Win TV shows often in those latter days after school, didn't they take on the pattern that was the case in the pre Win TV era? 
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 12:54:08 AM
Consolation plugs! Yes! :)

I was pleasantly surprised to see that now......one out of 2 ain't bad lol.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 01:04:12 AM
Curious, is anyone else experiencing the video going out off and on, and then subsequently skipping ahead a few seconds from where the audio was when it returns? I've noticed that happen a few times now, but unsure if that's cause of going from tab to tab on my computer or their end going wonky.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: CaseyBuck on December 01, 2020, 01:06:09 AM
Full screen credits! Looks like it's going to be the fabulous 65 minute Price is Right; they've run over their hour timeslot by about 5 minutes. If it means (mostly) unedited Price, I'll take it!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 01:09:58 AM
Full screen credits! Looks like it's going to be the fabulous 65 minute Price is Right; they've run over their hour timeslot by about 5 minutes. If it means (mostly) unedited Price, I'll take it!

I noticed they were running short on time during the showcases, ah the perks of live streaming vs. regular TV (plus having just one show to air anyway lol). Sidenote, how about Johnny O on that intro of Bob for Show #2....that was about as much energy as I think I've ever heard from him for that.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: CaseyBuck on December 01, 2020, 01:20:12 AM
I think this is 4584D. So, it looks like they're running in production order.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Wayoshi on December 01, 2020, 01:32:17 AM
I made a discord for us to discuss the episodes in real time if anyone wants to join

https://discord.gg/rAbQgRHF
Golden-Road has a Discord, I've made a retro channel in there. Just click "Chat" in the menu bar above.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Combs on December 01, 2020, 01:32:38 AM
It's interesting how the 91-92 shows, the most recent at the time, got more play than the others, airing twice. And if I recall viewing the Win TV shows often in those latter days after school, didn't they take on the pattern that was the case in the pre Win TV era?

Yes, I think Win TV used the 76-77 Monday, 79-80 Tuesday, 82-83 Wednesday, 86-87 Thursday, 91-92 Friday, 91-92 Saturday scheduling pattern, but it was wasted because of the Win TV thing. Also, anyone old enough who was watching GSN 20+ years ago will remember that the six months between October 1997 and April 1998 was known as "The Dark Period" because that's when GSN lost the rights to most of the Mark Goodson library. The only exceptions were TPIR (which still used the variety schedule) and the 1994-1995 syndicated, one hour episodes of Family Feud with Richard Dawson. When GSN got the rights to the other Goodson shows back in April 1998, I was very disappointed because (along with Feud 94-95 disappearing and TPIR being restricted to 1981-1983 episodes - with the exception of Win TV) they only aired certain editions of shows. They aired Family Feud with Richard Dawson (1976-1985), but not Ray Combs (1988-1994). They aired Card Sharks with Jim Perry (1978-1981), but not Bob Eubanks (1986-1989) or Bill Rafferty (1986-1987). The 1990-1991 ABC episodes of Match Game with Ross Shafer were also MIA. If memory serves me correctly, Combs Feud and Eubanks Card Sharks didn't return to GSN until 2001, with Rafferty Card Sharks and Shafer Match Game returning even later.

Also, in regards to GSN's TPIR variety schedule, I remember the reason they didn't show episodes on Sundays is because on Sunday afternoons they had a two or two and a half hour block of black and white shows they called "Sentimental Sunday". One of those shows was Bill Cullen's TPIR (1956-1965). They aired half hour CBS episodes (1972-1975) with Bob Barker on Monday-Friday during the early mornings.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Ivoryman86 on December 01, 2020, 01:58:38 AM
Yes, I think Win TV used the 76-77 Monday, 79-80 Tuesday, 82-83 Wednesday, 86-87 Thursday, 91-92 Friday, 91-92 Saturday scheduling pattern, but it was wasted because of the Win TV thing. Also, anyone old enough who was watching GSN 20+ years ago will remember that the six months between October 1997 and April 1998 was known as "The Dark Period" because that's when GSN lost the rights to most of the Mark Goodson library. The only exceptions were TPIR (which still used the variety schedule) and the 1994-1995 syndicated, one hour episodes of Family Feud with Richard Dawson. When GSN got the rights to the other Goodson shows back in April 1998, I was very disappointed because (along with Feud 94-95 disappearing and TPIR being restricted to 1981-1983 episodes - with the exception of Win TV) they only aired certain editions of shows. They aired Family Feud with Richard Dawson (1976-1985), but not Ray Combs (1988-1994). They aired Card Sharks with Jim Perry (1978-1981), but not Bob Eubanks (1986-1989) or Bill Rafferty (1986-1987). The 1990-1991 ABC episodes of Match Game with Ross Shafer were also MIA. If memory serves me correctly, Combs Feud and Eubanks Card Sharks didn't return to GSN until 2001, with Rafferty Card Sharks and Shafer Match Game returning even later.

Also, in regards to GSN's TPIR variety schedule, I remember the reason they didn't show episodes on Sundays is because on Sunday afternoons they had a two or two and a half hour block of black and white shows they called "Sentimental Sunday". One of those shows was Bill Cullen's TPIR (1956-1965). They aired half hour CBS episodes (1972-1975) with Bob Barker on Monday-Friday during the early mornings.
The CBS Daytime Feud bowed on October 2, 1999 with that counterpart's premiere episode but only reran on Saturday nights. The original Blockbusters with the Solo Player vs. Family Pair format returned to the schedule when the Goodson game shows returned in April 1998 but Rafferty Blockbusters never saw the light of day again until April 2005(don't think it was ever featured as GOTW). The WinTV era also began a new chapter for GSN by becoming a new expansion basic cable channel for basic cable providers such as then-called MediaOne, the 2 things MediaOne basic cable viewers never got to see are the Color IGAS and Password Plus until the latter moved to weekdays following ABC Daytime Feud in the mornings and Inquizition in the afternoons.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Thatgameshowguy on December 01, 2020, 01:59:19 AM
You'd think that documentation from that cherry-picking would still exist somewhere, thus making the job easier to do now than it was then (like, a "master list" of fur/non-fur shows).
GSN has not given Buzzr anything from their library. All these transfers are recent. If something like this was made it would probably still be in the hands of GSN.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 01, 2020, 02:06:37 AM
Hey, if anyone at any time wants to fill in some game lineups while they're watching this thing, be my guest.  Write up any notes you think should go in the FAQ, too -- set changes, non-car games for cars, pretty much anything.  God knows I love the show, but I obviously can't be watching this stream 24/7, and I'd still love to collect as much data as possible.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: GuyWithFace on December 01, 2020, 02:22:44 AM
Now airing is #4591D (September 20, 1982), skipping #4585D. Perhaps Pluto is going in taping order?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 02:39:26 AM
Wow, they left in a Bob Barker Fun & Games promo I just noticed.....that's something GSN never did I don't believe. Pretty cool. Also left a plug before SCSD #1 here.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 01, 2020, 02:42:13 AM
With regards to #4584D (September 16, 1982), on the 3 Strikes game I noticed that the painting of a flying baseball with the word "Price" on it has now been added to the base of the board, moving the change up from November 9.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Alfonzo on December 01, 2020, 02:58:01 AM
Something I noticed when Secret "X" was played that I never noticed before: The "X" in the logo was black compared to everything else being red.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: GuyWithFace on December 01, 2020, 03:25:30 AM
#4595D (September 24, 1982) is airing now, and I now feel confused at the order this channel is going in.

Notation for the FAQ: on #4595D, Super Ball!! is played for an (astonishingly boxy-looking) electric car.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Prizes on December 01, 2020, 03:38:49 AM
Hey, if anyone at any time wants to fill in some game lineups while they're watching this thing, be my guest.  Write up any notes you think should go in the FAQ, too -- set changes, non-car games for cars, pretty much anything.  God knows I love the show, but I obviously can't be watching this stream 24/7, and I'd still love to collect as much data as possible.

Yep, agreed, so we have a Discord community Google Sheets tab for lineup purposes. We’ll get it out to you. :)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 03:51:04 AM
Damn....they had a product in the Hi-Lo game on the current 9-24-82 episode , that ran for $7.50! The next highest was just over a $1.00 by comparison. Can anyone think of any playings with that high a price relative to everything else in this era? That shocked me for that time period.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 01, 2020, 03:58:40 AM
It was also shocking that in 1 Right Price, each of the prizes they offered in this playing were worth less than $1,000 in 1982, which was quite low by this time. You'd think they'd reserve that for Clock Game.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 04:10:36 AM
It was also shocking that in 1 Right Price, each of the prizes they offered in this playing were worth less than $1,000 in 1982, which was quite low by this time. You'd think they'd reserve that for Clock Game.

Or used them elsewhere, even one bids (of which I noticed a $1 bid in one earlier, wonder how common it was at this time, not sure it woulda been too much yet).
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 06:04:40 AM
They're bouncing around back and forth  it seems, they're just now airing the 1st show of week 2 or (9-13-82) that I referenced them posting a clip of pre-launch. Interesting.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 01, 2020, 06:10:19 AM
I’m never going to sleep again
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 06:19:03 AM
I’m never going to sleep again

I feel similar lol, at least till they start repeating lol. It's interesting seeing some games multiple times already though, Hi-Lo for example. In back to back shows too.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 01, 2020, 06:27:28 AM
Personal theory: They only have seven episodes ready at the moment and are looping through the first few.

I also want to sleep so I want this to be right so badly.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 06:31:19 AM
Personal theory: They only have seven episodes ready at the moment and are looping through the first few.

I also want to sleep so I want this to be right so badly.

I'd say 8 if they were......since they could do a loop of em 3 times to fill the 24 hour day.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 01, 2020, 06:48:24 AM
I'd say 8 if they were......since they could do a loop of em 3 times to fill the 24 hour day.

Do we know for sure how they’re going to organize the airing?  Is it one and done (see it or miss it), is it a block of so many repeated so many times a day?  I’m sorry if ya’ll discussed this above, but I’m still crying that I called Poker Game 3rd before anything was revealed, and lost my poo after the first cue of Temptation.

Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 06:54:58 AM
Do we know for sure how they’re going to organize the airing?  Is it one and done (see it or miss it), is it a block of so many repeated so many times a day?  I’m sorry if ya’ll discussed this above, but I’m still crying that I called Poker Game 3rd before anything was revealed, and lost my poo after the first cue of Temptation.

No we don't. I'd not be surprised if it was done this way though......didn't occur to me till then but it'd make a lot of sense, to allow people up at any hours to catch them and not miss anything.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 01, 2020, 06:58:16 AM
We have absolutely no clue.

(but we had a theory floating in the Discord that games with copyrighted sound cues might not be aired, and 4582D would have one of those cues, so it's possible this is the "start" of a loop of seven episodes, and 4583D would be airing next, but this theory's out the window when they just played the Pink Panther theme in the second showcase of this episode.)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 07:00:20 AM
We have absolutely no clue.

(but we had a theory floating in the Discord that games with copyrighted sound cues might not be aired, and 4582D would have one of those cues, so it's possible this is the "start" of a loop of seven episodes, and 4583D would be airing next, but this theory's out the window when they just played the Pink Panther theme in the second showcase of this episode.)

How many games besides Safe Crackers have/had copyrighted cues? I can't think of any others off top.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 01, 2020, 07:03:59 AM
^someone suggested Race Game and Switcheroo, which both haven't come up yet.

Also, this isn't the start of a new loop. They have at least 8

And this is 4582D. I'm eating my words about copyrighted music.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: MrZone on December 01, 2020, 07:16:48 AM
We need to keep this thread pinned, so let for the reason that some of the meme ears episodes in this community will eventually pop up..even though we could be looking at a few months before the 1st one does. Unless I’m something, late 90s is the earliest account of an active member being on the show, right?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: JT on December 01, 2020, 07:23:04 AM
I’m never going to sleep again
I think you are right!
Watching now.  This is an amazing way to close out 2020!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: gsn93 on December 01, 2020, 07:28:13 AM
GSN has not given Buzzr anything from their library. All these transfers are recent. If something like this was made it would probably still be in the hands of GSN.

The Cullen Price is Right episodes Buzzr are airing are sourced from the same masters GSN aired back in the 90s. A few of them are up on the Buzzr YouTube channel with the mail in address for the home viewer showcases covered up by a generic GSN bumper. I'm going to assume that it was easier to use those since they were already prescreened back in the day for furs and cigarette sponsorships.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 01, 2020, 07:42:23 AM
We need to keep this thread pinned

Done.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: RatGnawedCheez on December 01, 2020, 08:11:51 AM
They're repeating the first episode they aired now, so it looks like we're getting 8 episodes a day.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: UltraPrice on December 01, 2020, 08:27:19 AM
Any new information uncovered from the episodes that have aired so far that affects the Pricing Game calendar and/or TPiR timeline?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 01, 2020, 08:49:17 AM
How many games besides Safe Crackers have/had copyrighted cues? I can't think of any others off top.

They aired a showcase with the Star Wars theme so it can’t all be about copyrights, right? 

The Hi-Lo playing from 7:00-8:00 CST, Cue 61...I cried again.  Gonna be a lot of that here where I am.  I feel 12 years old again.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: tpir04 on December 01, 2020, 09:25:23 AM
Kudos to Pluto and Fremantle for hammering out a deal, this is great! Watching 4584D now, love the crisp quality!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 01, 2020, 09:41:53 AM
Kudos to Pluto and Fremantle for hammering out a deal, this is great! Watching 4584D now, love the crisp quality!

I too cannot believe how HD this last episode appears to me too.   I’m glad I’m not the only one.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: MrZone on December 01, 2020, 10:11:52 AM
They're repeating the first episode they aired now, so it looks like we're getting 8 episodes a day.

And that would make palatable to give people a chance 3 chances a day to catch an episode. Granted, it would mean the 2000 episodes won’t been seen for year or two under the format if all episodes are airing in order. I do think eventually some episodes would be put on Pluto On Demand to alleviate this.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 01, 2020, 10:25:52 AM
Now they're running #4585D at this hour, so it looks like it's a mixture of new and repeats (and I think they're digitizing them as they go).
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SamJ93 on December 01, 2020, 10:58:01 AM
Surprised to see that licensed music apparently isn't an issue, as a lot of folks speculated. They're currently airing a "Time Capsule" showcase that used music from both Star Trek and Close Encounters Of The Third Kind.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: ironman00710 on December 01, 2020, 11:25:59 AM
Just logged into the link and they're in the middle of the 1st Showcase Showdown, and the current episode airing on TV is also in the 1st Showcase Showdown. Wheel beeping overload!!! And that's okay.  :-D
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 01, 2020, 11:34:29 AM
Surprised to see that licensed music apparently isn't an issue, as a lot of folks speculated. They're currently airing a "Time Capsule" showcase that used music from both Star Trek and Close Encounters Of The Third Kind.


I guess they worked something out with all parties as it relates to music in addition to having these episodes air in the first place.  So much went into this, it appears.


I didn't expect it to be, personally.  When the episodes used to air on GSN, it wasn't a problem at the time, IIRC.  Times change and things are different, but nice surprise, nevertheless
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Teddy on December 01, 2020, 11:52:59 AM
Watching both shows right now, and Bob's show just ended the second Showcase Showdown while Drew's is already in the Showcase. It's very fun to compare the two, just to see how much has changed since 1982, and that's quite a lot!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pannoni1 on December 01, 2020, 12:52:41 PM
Watching 4581D (9/13/82) right now, after checking out 4586D (which had aired overnight) earlier. One thing I noticed from this period was that it was during the transitional period regarding contestants nametags written in all caps like it is today compared to just the first letter capitalized like it had been since the beginning. At one point, there were two Carolyns in Contestants Row next to each other, one of them having their name tag written in all caps, the other with just the initial capitalized.

Bullseye was indeed more challenging back then where the three GPs selected required 17-20, 8, and 6 items respectively to hit the Bullseye. (And there was even a paperback as a GP as well!) For most, if not all of the Carey era, simply saying "2" or "3" on what you believe are the most expensive products will usually get the job done.

And as great as it is to see classic TPIR, its even greater to see how important the audience is while we await for a return to normalcy, hopefully by the start of Season 50.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 01, 2020, 01:00:15 PM
I want to know if October 22, 1982 turns up. I think it has the Lucky 7 first-number wipeout I have been searching for for ages.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: ntpir on December 01, 2020, 01:05:19 PM
I'm in complete heaven...
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: jozsef on December 01, 2020, 02:08:01 PM
I'm in complete heaven...

Same here! Had it playing all day with headphone at work at my desk. This is fantastic. I’m really interested to see how/when they rotate in other episodes
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 02:38:27 PM
How many repeats have they had since the first one at 8? Just getting back to it now.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on December 01, 2020, 02:46:42 PM
How many repeats have they had since the first one at 8? Just getting back to it now.

There was a ninth new show at 10am, then they continued looping the first 8, and now as of 2pm Eastern this is the third time this same episode has run today.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
There was a ninth new show at 10am, then they continued looping the first 8, and now as of 2pm Eastern this is the third time this same episode has run today.

So they must have 9 they are running on the daily, at least right now. Interesting one is already airing for a 3rd time too.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Chief-O on December 01, 2020, 03:02:20 PM
I too cannot believe how HD this last episode appears to me too.   I’m glad I’m not the only one.

For being circa-1982 video, done with Norelco PC60 cameras and (I assume) 2" quad tape, these digitizations *do* look amazing. I won't deduct points for the streaming medium affecting the frame rate, though.......

......on a show-related note, I guess I never realized as a kid how *tough* Poker Game was. And am I alone in thinking Holly looked like Debralee Scott back then?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mkeeney on December 01, 2020, 03:16:10 PM
I'm glad they are airing these.  I can't stand watching Drew Carey and the mess the show is now. 

This was always Bob's show.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: plinkowin2010 on December 01, 2020, 03:24:08 PM
it was great seeing these episodes again on Pluto TV. I miss some of the prizes and small prizes that was used in the pricing games. The blue cards with the brand names. It was great hearing the old music cues and full description of the prizes, small prizes, and grocery products and the consolation prizes. I miss the old doors, contestants row, the curtains behind the studio, showcase skits, and some of the retired pricing games. If they would bring back it's optional, how many chances would they give the contestant?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: blozier2006 on December 01, 2020, 03:26:57 PM
This was always Bob's show.
I think Dennis might have argued that point, but meh.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 04:19:39 PM
Any new information uncovered from the episodes that have aired so far that affects the Pricing Game calendar and/or TPiR timeline?

According to the episode with the Emmy win mention that aired a bit ago again, per a comment on the YouTube clip of segment #1, it aired September 30th, 1982. That show had Danger Price played first, and the calendar has the only show of that week with that slotted there as airing September 27th. If the comment is accurate, then that should be moved.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 04:29:37 PM
Not sure if this is the 9th episode they aired earlier or not, but I see Race Game has made an appearance now in this one for first time. So there goes any question of copyright issues with it.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: C8 on December 01, 2020, 04:31:00 PM
Been watching this afternoon while working remotely. I can hardly believe my eyes and ears.

Couple of random observations:

1) The diversity of the contestants is so much more in these old episodes. I don't mean in terms of what people look like but their personalities. Today is all people amped up on Red Bull trying to go viral. Back then you had everyone from the typical housewife to the excited husband to people who barely spoke English...all adding their own unique charm to the show.

2) The contents are so much more...calm. Love it!

3) Bob keeps the show moving so briskly with no loss of excitement. Also love it.

4) No one has talked about how good the audio is on these digital conversions. The losing horns and bass buzzer had a punch on my TV I was not expecting.

5) The picture is so clear and crisp...perhaps to a fault. I never realized how horrible that early 80s set looked with the multicolored rugs and paper mache stucco used on the turntable and perhaps styrofoam on the Showcase podia.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 01, 2020, 04:49:26 PM
I'm glad they are airing these.  I can't stand watching Drew Carey and the mess the show is now. 

This was always Bob's show.

Except when it wasnt... :roll:
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TVC on December 01, 2020, 04:52:55 PM
For being circa-1982 video, done with Norelco PC60 cameras and (I assume) 2" quad tape, these digitizations *do* look amazing. I won't deduct points for the streaming medium affecting the frame rate, though.......

Yes, the Norelco PC-60 cameras (electronically upgraded to essentially be PC-70s) were still in use at Television City in 1982. They were at that time about 17 years old and still producing great pictures. Sometime the following year, the Norelcos were replaced with Hitachi SK-110 cameras. The show was still being recorded on two-inch quadruplex videotape in 1982. A switch to one-inch tape occurred within the next year or so.

The library of TPIR episodes was transferred to a digital videotape format (Digital Betacam) in the early 1990s. These tapes were used when GSN ran episodes of the show on cable. But now for Internet distribution, it is necessary to transcode the Digital Betacam copies to digital computer files. This might explain why only a relatively small sampling of classic episodes is in the immediate rotation. Time and money are necessary to perform the digital conversions.

I have seen the Pluto TV episodes only on my iPhone, and the image quality looks very good there. It appears that the standard definition (640 x 480) video is being upscaled to a higher video resolution. Yet it still looks good.

People involved with the current iteration of the show ought to watch these early 1980s episodes. They serve as a reminder of the program’s high production values and excellent direction and camerawork.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 01, 2020, 05:23:06 PM
What’s really making me cry is to see all the “old schoolers” who are posting here in this thread.  For how long we have this gift I do not know, but I’m gonna cherish every moment.

I realized why the first rerun incarnation didn’t take off:  Bob was still on hosting new shows and the feel was still there.  I knew I was a junkie, but with this “smack high” I’m not sure what will happen if it’s taken away again.

❤️ to Fremantle, Viacom, CBS, Bob. 
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: therealcu2010 on December 01, 2020, 05:42:52 PM
Man, watching these classics not only makes me nostalgic (even if the ones aired today were from before I was born), but makes me realize just how much I miss classic TPIR. The presentation, the cues, the prizes, competent showcase writing, Bob at the top of his game, Johnny Olson at his finest... damn I miss this. Not saying that the show is bad today, mind you, and none of this would work on Drew's show... but this is the show I grew up with, and the show I've sorely missed the past thirteen years.

Please, please, please, for the love of God and all things holy, don't stop. I've become more and more of a fan of Pluto TV lately because they've really added a bunch of different content that appeals to all groups of people, but three game show channels, one dedicated to the single greatest game show of all time? And all for the amazingly low price of free? Yes please!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 01, 2020, 06:35:46 PM
I've been enjoying it too. I've made it no secret that I enjoy the show now and a lot of what they're doing, but man...this has been fun.

-Johnny Olsen is the best announcer this show had. Periodt. (Note- I love how he says "and now, here's the star of the NIGHTtime Price is right"- there was a certain way he said it that i love.
-The camera hid...so, so much. Let me explain...HD is bringing to light every nook, cranny, stucco (there was a LOT Of stucco) vinyl, peeling paint, covers on screens, everything
-The 80s trip skins are definitely a product of its time. Ok, some of them are just ugly.
-The backdrops they used for cars are...also a product of its time.

Quote
I realized why the first rerun incarnation didn’t take off:  Bob was still on hosting new shows and the feel was still there.
Someone can correct me, but I think the entire reason why GSN lost the rights was because someone didnt sign to extend the rights...
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: DYC on December 01, 2020, 06:52:04 PM
What’s really making me cry is to see all the “old schoolers” who are posting here in this thread.  For how long we have this gift I do not know, but I’m gonna cherish every moment.

I realized why the first rerun incarnation didn’t take off:  Bob was still on hosting new shows and the feel was still there.  I knew I was a junkie, but with this “smack high” I’m not sure what will happen if it’s taken away again.

❤️ to Fremantle, Viacom, CBS, Bob.

FPGWillyT, I echo every sentiment you’ve put in this thread.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: blozier2006 on December 01, 2020, 06:55:04 PM
Someone can correct me, but I think the entire reason why GSN lost the rights was because someone didnt sign to extend the rights...
And I'd bet dollars to donuts that someone's name was Les Moonves.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: kingpin623 on December 01, 2020, 06:55:41 PM
If they would bring back it's optional, how many chances would they give the contestant?

And *what* would those options be?  Technology definitely plays into this game; today’s options would be things like heated seats, back seat TV screens, satellite radio, 1-yr OnStar subscription, etc.  And of course the winning range would have to be increased to adjust for both technology and inflation, at least to $500, perhaps to $1000.  Fascinating to ponder... 🧐

JBK
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 06:56:09 PM
And I'd bet dollars to donuts that someone's name was Les Moonves.

Wouldn't it have been on GSN's side, aka an oversight? That was how I was interpreted it.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Prizes on December 01, 2020, 07:27:43 PM
What’s really making me cry is to see all the “old schoolers” who are posting here in this thread.  For how long we have this gift I do not know, but I’m gonna cherish every moment.

I can’t agree with this more. I never thought it would happen, and that itself brings back countless memories of people I’ve missed tremendously and never thought we’d see again. Extremely welcome, and thanks for coming back everyone. It means a lot from all of us.  🥲

And yeah, this is pretty much incredible appointment viewing. Wow. It’s nobody’s doing on show, but I miss when we had time as these shows demonstrate. Sure, the games and prizes were as advertised, fabulous and a dream. But...people were people. We get to see more than the skin of the onion. We gets to see its many layers and what makes people tick and beyond. That is the true magic of Price to me, always has been, its people. It’s also why this site took off, yeah? The community and shared experiences overlapped into a common domain.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 01, 2020, 08:00:21 PM
iIf they would bring back it's optional, how many chances would they give the contestant?

They’re all packaged nowadays, for the most part.  So sadly, we’re stuck with Triple Play.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Plinkoman on December 01, 2020, 08:38:23 PM
This is awesome! I love this! I'd never thought we'd see these again, and man, this is nice! Being able to see the old style, prices, sets, and even some retired games (I cheered when I saw Penny Ante today!) is a fantastic feeling!

Yes, I hope in the future we can get some 70s episodes, but I am more than happy with what we have now! And, I'll still be watching the current episodes each night on CBS All Access!

And, shout outs to all these old-timer members coming back! :)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on December 01, 2020, 08:53:44 PM
I’m about a day late to the party here, but what a treat, man.  What an absolute treat this is!

My fiancé and I are watching right now.  She grew up on game shows like I did, so it’s really neat to experience this with her.  My favorite line from her: “he’s so young!” (talking about Bob) lol.  We grew up a good decade and some change after this round of episodes aired, but even still, I feel like I’ve hopped into a time machine of pure nostalgia.  I won’t be able to turn it off once they get to episodes that aired during my childhood...I can’t hardly turn it off now as it is!

I know, I know... a plethora of old episodes exist on YouTube.  But how many of those are master copies, remastered to look as good as they were originally broadcast on Zenith color television sets back in the day?  Very, very few.  Oh, I could nitpick about the frame rate being effectively cut in half — but unlike the vast majority of YT uploads I’ve watched, frame rate really isn’t bothering me here.  Hell, I’m watching this stream on a 50” 4K set with a HECK of a lot of upscaling going on, and it still looks crisp. 

A few thoughts occurred to me while reading through this thread... 

The folks at Fremantle and behind the scenes with the show really didn’t have a whole lot going on this summer production-wise.  What if one of their projects was converting as many of these episodes to digital as possible?  Maybe we’ll get more than just a handful dumped every now and then.

Also, at what point did CBS begin airing shows digitally as opposed to tape?  If it was some point in the later years of the Barker era, then those episodes would conceivably be ready to go now, provided they still exist on a hard drive or whatever digital storage means was used.  Maybe we’ll see some of the more recent episodes coming in the near future.

Finally, Viacom has a tremendous amount of content from virtually all genres of both television and film airing on Pluto TV.  Regarding music rights, they probably hold all the rights they’ll ever need by virtue of their expansive content library.

Thoughts are swelling in my head over this, but I’ll leave them be for now.  I just can’t get over how appreciative I am of CBS/Viacom/Fremantle for adding this channel to Pluto TV.  I’ve felt for a few years now we might see something like this, especially given the popularity of YouTube uploads.  To finally be here is all kinds of awesome.  I can’t wait to see what they air next!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Ton80 on December 01, 2020, 09:35:06 PM
Watching one of the episodes tonight, and I've noticed that Bob has called him "John" more than a few times.  I never realized Johnny Olson ever went by just, "John".

Is it any coincidence that I was watching Match Game on Roku Live recently, and Bob was one of the panelists on one episode, and Holly was a panelist on a different episode?  (Probably not a coincidence)

I'm going to echo FPGWillyT:  the video quality is absolutely incredible, considering it's not HD.  I've become so accustomed to the lousy low-res YouTube videos, I never appreciated how good the show could look in regular old "normal" quality.

And without letting this become an "old vs new", "Bob vs Drew" discussion, I'm truly amazed at how the show has managed to remain relatively unchanged after so many years. Yes, the sets are newer, the show is more "modern", there's a new host, and so on, but the bones are still very much the same.  The fact that, after close to 50 years, the basic structure of the show has remained unchanged is quite impressive.

And on an unrelated note:  I've been around here for more than a few years, and feel that I know pretty much all the regulars here, even though I don't talk much.  When in the world did we get a new moderator named "Mr. Weatherman"??
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: blozier2006 on December 01, 2020, 09:41:32 PM
When in the world did we get a new moderator named "Mr. Weatherman"??
Presumably when he changed his handle from "PayingTheRent".
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 09:46:00 PM
Just realizing the September 16th show in the calendar has Danger Price slotted 2nd in the episode now reairing, but it should be the 1st one. Clock Game was 2nd on this episode.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: saturn93 on December 01, 2020, 09:49:49 PM
It's been way too long since the last post, since I have only seen a couple of the specials in the last couple of years.  I have weaned off daytime due to work, as in the last few years, I had to check the results to see if I would want to watch it.  At least 60% of the time, there was no need, as I took it off if the episode has a DOB, skunked episodes, or just rather blah episodes.

I finally have another use for Pluto TV, other than MST3K and Fail Army.  I will check this channel from time to time, as this is a good idea.  Kind of like a catch-up of sorts for me, especially between 1982 and 1993, when I had most days in school (except for holidays, school breaks, and the rare sick day).  I probably will wane a bit after the 1993 shows, as between taping while having classes in college and being able to watch as scheduled on off days.

Just looking at the episode I am looking now (the one where Bob announced his Emmy), it looks much calmer and civilized back in 1982.  More like the fine wine and filet mignon era, unlike now that it is the pizza and beer era. Just get called, run or walk to your spot, and stop...not scream and hop around like you had sugar and Red Bull together, and make a spectacle of yourself.  We can also see the transformation from casual and occasional sport jackets, to the make-your-own t-shirts in later years. It is also going to be fun seeing the more antiquated prizes that were won at the time compared to now, and a lot of the prize cues.  Nice to see the contestant not appearing on stage prize set is included.

The picture and sound does look good on both Roku and the app on my tablet.  And, I do hope they as many of the earlier episodes as they can (that can be shown).




Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: garffreak on December 01, 2020, 09:50:19 PM
They’re all packaged nowadays, for the most part.  So sadly, we’re stuck with Triple Play.

Or called "Convenience Package 2A" which means about as much as "a 13-inch laptop computer".

You wanted old-timers, here you go.

 :garf:
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on December 01, 2020, 09:51:02 PM
Presumably when he changed his handle from "PayingTheRent".
And on an unrelated note:  I've been around here for more than a few years, and feel that I know pretty much all the regulars here, even though I don't talk much.  When in the world did we get a new moderator named "Mr. Weatherman"??

And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for you meddling kids!

Really and truly, I pretty much always hated my username.  I was 19, thought I was being ‘punny,’ despite strongly detesting the game Pay the Rent.  It was well past time for a change.

Weather is my main jam, so this username fits me better as I approach 27. :)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 01, 2020, 10:02:49 PM
Or called "Convenience Package 2A" which means about as much as "a 13-inch laptop computer".

You wanted old-timers, here you go.

 :garf:

My point exactly my old FPG-playing friend.  It was one thing to account for P/FP when playing a game like $G or A#.  Was merely making a point of why “It’s Optional” is most likely not feasible.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: saturn93 on December 01, 2020, 10:04:23 PM
I forgot...the post-Showcase celebration...back then, it was the contestant, Bob, and the Beauties, along with one or two that came with.  Now, it's a mob coming out.  :D
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 10:05:10 PM
I forgot...the post-Showcase celebration...back then, it was the contestant, Bob, and the Beauties, along with one or two that came with.  Now, it's a mob coming out.  :D

Well.......was.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mrbrown2195 on December 01, 2020, 10:11:48 PM
I'm going to echo FPGWillyT:  the video quality is absolutely incredible, considering it's not HD.  I've become so accustomed to the lousy low-res YouTube videos, I never appreciated how good the show could look in regular old "normal" quality.

OMG, yes. The video quality here is amazing, considering the shows we are currently seeing on there are nearly 40 years old. You can even see how crappy the paint jobs are on some of the games (Penny Ante, I'm looking at you)!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: saturn93 on December 01, 2020, 10:17:13 PM
Well.......was.
:oldlol:  Got me...back to no one coming out for now.  That's how distanced I am with the show at the present time.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: tpir1983 on December 01, 2020, 10:19:26 PM
Add me in for one of the old schoolers chiming in. Been waiting a long time for this, and the hard work of digitizing these episodes has paid off. The quality is incredible and it’s just awesome watching these almost 40 year episodes on broadcast quality TV.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: PimpinJC on December 01, 2020, 10:32:27 PM
It really is amazing at the feat that PlutoTV and Fremantle has pulled off here.  My jaw is dropped at the amazing quality and just the fact we have 80s Price again.  Looking forward to the later 80s when they come and we can get some Rod Roddy episodes, but definitely enjoying everything so far.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: thatvhstapeguy on December 01, 2020, 10:48:16 PM
I have been watching on my 2000 Sony Trinitron. It looks quite good on the CRT. I might end up burning the dollar sign bug into my screen, because this channel is now a permanent fixture on my TV.

I have a theory on why this happened now, at this point in time. I recall that Price is joint property of CBS and Fremantle. Pluto TV was bought by Viacom, which just (re)combined with CBS. So bingo, half the rights issues resolved there. I figure that music rights will also be a non-issue, as the original clearances pertain to broadcasts. Which an online linear channel is. The new episodes probably have on-demand licensing for the music, as the show is available on CBS All Access. Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 11:05:38 PM
I have been watching on my 2000 Sony Trinitron. It looks quite good on the CRT. I might end up burning the dollar sign bug into my screen, because this channel is now a permanent fixture on my TV.

You know, the bug is somehow comforting too....it reminds me much of the CBS eye logo seen through the mid to late 90's and 2000's era of Barker's run. It gives it a nice added touch to me.

Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 01, 2020, 11:40:55 PM
Just realizing the September 16th show in the calendar has Danger Price slotted 2nd in the episode now reairing, but it should be the 1st one. Clock Game was 2nd on this episode.


Several of those early 80s episodes featured lineups with "unknown slotting" so while the pricing games for one of those tapings were correct, the order in which they were played may not have been as mentioned.

Count me in as one of those that remembered when nobody celebrating with the winning contestant was the norm.  Which is funny; every-so-often people used to celebrate with the contestants after a pricing game win.  There was a 1982 episode that I can recall where a contestant's spouse ran onto the stage following a $10,000 win in Punch A Bunch.  Then he got twice as much airtime since his wife won the showcase.  We might not see that on this channel (unless it aired today).  I believe it was from Season 10
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 01, 2020, 11:52:54 PM

Several of those early 80s episodes featured lineups with "unknown slotting" so while the pricing games for one of those tapings were correct, the order in which they were played may not have been as mentioned.

Count me in as one of those that remembered when nobody celebrating with the winning contestant was the norm.  Which is funny; every-so-often people used to celebrate with the contestants after a pricing game win.  There was a 1982 episode that I can recall where a contestant's spouse ran onto the stage following a $10,000 win in Punch A Bunch.  Then he got twice as much airtime since his wife won the showcase.  We might not see that on this channel (unless it aired today).  I believe it was from Season 10

Guess that explains that...thanks for clarifying. Rest of order was solid though, so a good job was done on that for most part.

And speaking to celebrations, I don't remember which show it was (mighta been same one with Lucky Seven Lori but not sure), but....I saw at the end of one today the showcase winner ran off to REALLY excitedly hug and cry with either her sister or friend, not sure which, as she was celebrating. That was rather shocking to see for 1982, and I feel even may have stunned Bob and the models. They even cut to an audience view as she was running toward her.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 12:03:27 AM
Well, looks like whatever amount of episodes they have digitized, they aren't doing a fresh cycle of shows at midnight EST. The aforementioned Lucky Seven Lori episode is airing there again. Curious to see when or if they'll refresh today. I thought they may, but maybe just not yet.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 02, 2020, 01:58:46 AM
I think they may refresh come 6 am EST in the morning but we'll see.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 02:03:47 AM
I think they may refresh come 6 am EST in the morning but we'll see.

I was wondering if they may at 3am, or midnight PST assuming they run same schedule, but shall see.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: jhc2010 on December 02, 2020, 02:26:45 AM
Is anyone on here tracking which episodes are airing on the new channel? What are the production numbers/dates of today's episodes? I saw some of them noted in this thread but I don't think all nine are here.

I read earlier in this thread that #4585D (September 17, 1982) was skipped. Could that be because there was a technical win on Cliff Hangers where the staff mishears contestant Madeline's first bid and moves the mountain climber too far, which leads to the game ending on the second prize when it should not have? Bob declares her to have won after the commercial.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 02, 2020, 02:28:59 AM
^We have a spreadsheet going in the Discord. I'll edit in a photo in a minute, but the answer is no; they did actually air that a little later... and have done so twice more already.

(https://i.imgur.com/2ySc2Jc.png)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 02:40:52 AM
^We have a spreadsheet going in the Discord. I'll edit in a photo in a minute, but the answer is no; they did actually air that a little later... and have done so twice more already.

(https://i.imgur.com/2ySc2Jc.png)

I noticed that earlier...I figured was the first one. I don't understand why it woulda been skipped anyway, technical wins happen all the time even today, so it'd be silly to skip a show based on that. Good work on airings and loops BTW, I was hoping someone was tracking this. I actually have a theory that....if they do refresh at 6, it'll be 4 6 hour loops with repeats all the way through em from here on in. It'd make sense and be cleanest. Day 1 is obviously an anomaly due to the midnight launch, although I suppose they could done it even then just adding a 5th loop, but I can see them wanting to get as many shows as they could out the gate vs. do that. It's interesting that 4601 and 4605 only got 1 airing all day due to wonky scheduling, wonder if they'll get anymore yet.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 02:52:33 AM
Check that 4595 too. I wonder if they'll show up in later days as part of those loops, being out of order otherwise. It'd make sense. Actually I bet they may be seen as part of today's if they continue in order. Would start at 4592 at 6 if so, and end at 4602. So could get 3 fresh, and 3 repeats.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 06:14:03 AM
EDIT: Disregard this......6AM episode may be new......
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: The Big Wheel on December 02, 2020, 07:14:40 AM
People involved with the current iteration of the show ought to watch these early 1980s episodes. They serve as a reminder of the program’s high production values and excellent direction and camerawork.

Couldn't agree more and it's so good to see these shows again. It's truly a reminder of the quality the show should still be today. I catch clips of the current run of the show every now and then but I've never watched a full episode since Bob retired.

These shows are what the older members of this site (and former incarnations of this site) grew up watching. I started watching the show then regularly in Season 7.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 02, 2020, 08:34:49 AM
FYI if there is not a skip the 9AM show will lead off with Super Ball.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: UltraPrice on December 02, 2020, 08:51:45 AM
Is it airing new episodes right now?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SamJ93 on December 02, 2020, 10:12:05 AM
Looks like #4601D is airing right now, so it would appear so.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on December 02, 2020, 10:34:33 AM
It will never happen for a number of reasons (royalties, advertiser agreements, tracking down master tapes, etc.), but how cool would it be if Pluto could air some of the old commercials that would have aired alongside Price back in the day?  Even if it’s just existing Pluto TV advertisers who agree to have their old ads shown for nostalgia’s sake, it would be so neat to see. 

I’m asking way too much here. :P
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: PunchABunchFan on December 02, 2020, 10:55:30 AM
I've only seen a few of these, and was too young to watch these first-run, but one thing that is surprising me is how much the turntable was used during the showcases compared to now.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pannoni1 on December 02, 2020, 11:42:14 AM
We're up to 4602D now, also new to Pluto. For those who don't know, an episode highlighted in gray on the tpirstats.com calendars like this one indicates that the games listed are not confirmed to be in order as shown. In fact, every game listed as of this post is out of order from what was actually played. 
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 02, 2020, 12:04:46 PM
And they are back to 4592D so we're going to get this batch of 4592D to 4602D until the next morning.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pannoni1 on December 02, 2020, 12:44:09 PM
For those who like to follow the cars and their prices of this era and maybe play along better, I'd highly recommend this resource: https://archive.org/details/carsconsumerguid00cons

In addition to providing a standard profile of all the cars seen for the 1983 model year, it also provides the prices for the various body styles, trims, and for many vehicles, even a list of the options. You'll see that although there were some packages offered, most of the options were available individually. Many cars have well over a page of options with their prices provided.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 02, 2020, 03:06:55 PM
The quick guide to car prices at that time:

$10,000+ cars were pretty nice and out of the ordinary except in Hole in One or Golden Road. Usually convertibles, full-size sedans or nicely-outfitted trucks.

$8,000-$9,000: Nicer than ordinary but not really luxury cars, either. Jeeps, cheaper "sports" (not really) cars  and mid-size sedans, usually.

$7,000: The typical car price range in 1982. Everyday compact cars in the decent range with some options.

$6,000: The cheaper small cars; subcompacts like the Chevette.

By this point, I´m not sure that they played games for cars under $6,000. I haven´t seen one. It was a given by this time that the first number in Dice Game would be 6, at least until the Deluxe version entered the scene.

Interestingly, showcases at this time could go much lower, with $5,000 showcases not being uncommon; occasionally they even dipped into the $4,000s.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 03:07:40 PM
This is just a hypothetical thing, but am curious what you all would think about this. In show 4594D that just aired again, the runner-up in the Showcase Round Yvonne, was found to be ineligible after the show. Now as it was, she didn't end up winning her showcase, but she came within about $90 of doing so, so she almost did. If she had......what do you think the production staff woulda done? Do you think it's possible they may have scrapped the show and replaced it with another? I don't know that they'd want to air something, in which the big winner of the day ended up not being an eligible contestant after the fact. It wouldn't have been the greatest look. What's your guys' take?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Nick on December 02, 2020, 03:35:50 PM
Well, I guess I'll just have to sit outside on the sidelines up here in Canada (Seriously, why is geofencing still a thing, especially when they're making their YouTube clips available outside the U.S.?  No, I'm not going to backdoor it.  That would be illegal.).  Perhaps they'll reconsider at some point, but regardless, but the fact is it is extremely impressive to see these reruns happening in Barker's lifetime.  Sure, let's hope someday even more common sense prevails that we'll get to see shows from the first ten seasons, nighttime shows and episodes on demand (not sure what the sense is in a 24-hour channel with the same episodes cycling over and over, which will probably still be the case even when they have more episodes digitized).  For now, this move is long overdue and much appreciated.

It's great to see so much of the "old guard" around here trotting out in excitement, and now that we will be inundated with steady access to crisp quality copies of episodes from the show's glory years, it really makes no sense to me how anybody can look at the show now compared to then and still say it's good.

Look at the bright and vibrant colours of the set.  Doesn't it look much more pleasing to the eye than a set the looks dead if it's not plugged in?  The reactions out of the contestants are a hundred percent genuine.  No coaching, no staging.  It's live theatre in action.  The directing is stunning.  Breslow knew closeup shots of contestants faces make for the best way to deliver excitement on screen (He also knew to keep these shots instead of just panning around the audience).  The contestants have brains and know how to bid quickly.  The audience knows when to keep hush and what times call for a cheer.

I could go on, but I would say I have made the point clear.  This was The Price Is Right.  This was The Price Is Right in its prime, and this is what The Price Is Right is meant to be.  There is no reason why the show cannot be this great today.  Seeing as the powers that be wish to maintain this "different direction", we (most of us anyway) are at least at long last able to enjoy the best of "television's most exciting hour of fantastic prizes".
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on December 02, 2020, 03:46:33 PM
Do you think it's possible they may have scrapped the show and replaced it with another? I don't know that they'd want to air something, in which the big winner of the day ended up not being an eligible contestant after the fact. It wouldn't have been the greatest look. What's your guys' take?

I’m guessing they would have just aired it as is with a disclaimer, it would be too expensive to just toss an entire episode. Is it known what happened that created this situation? I assume the contestant was related to someone at CBS or Goodson Toddman and wasn’t up front about it?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: therealcu2010 on December 02, 2020, 03:53:05 PM
It's great to see so much of the "old guard" around here trotting out in excitement, and now that we will be inundated with steady access to crisp quality copies of episodes from the show's glory years, it really makes no sense to me how anybody can look at the show now compared to then and still say it's good.

Because tastes evolve over the years. These shows from the 80s are Price in their prime, yes... but that was the 1980s. This is 2020. Times change. Technology changes. The host has changed, and has made the show his own. The show is still the highest-rated show in network daytime, so clearly people still enjoy the show.

Also, I find the set more vibrant and colorful today... watching these retro episodes in upconverted HD, that set clearly hasn't aged well. Not only do a lot of the props look rough (many of which looked equally if not even more rough when the show actually went to HD in 2008), but the set actually looks so much darker with all that black space around the doors and turntable, and the relatively bland color scheme of everything else makes the whole thing look dull. Granted, the set today has many issues- mostly that everything clashes with one another and it has little coherent identity- but overall is much more pleasing to look at in 1080p HD in the year 2020.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 03:55:24 PM
Well, I guess I'll just have to sit outside on the sidelines up here in Canada (Seriously, why is geofencing still a thing, especially when they're making their YouTube clips available outside the U.S.?  No, I'm not going to backdoor it.  That would be illegal.).  Perhaps they'll reconsider at some point, but regardless, but the fact is it is extremely impressive to see these reruns happening in Barker's lifetime.  Sure, let's hope someday even more common sense prevails that we'll get to see shows from the first ten seasons, nighttime shows and episodes on demand (not sure what the sense is in a 24-hour channel with the same episodes cycling over and over, which will probably still be the case even when they have more episodes digitized).  For now, this move is long overdue and much appreciated.

I think the cycling is a way to allow people awake at any time, or available to at any time, to watch the same episodes others would, which makes sense to me actually. Only so much time you can spend in front of monitor.....as I found out yesterday trying to watch the first 9 and what I thought might be even more later. I'm good with 6 a day, as long as they keep going through em consistently.
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 02, 2020, 03:59:24 PM
Just thought I´d add in which cars were frequently seen on the show in what price range at that time:

In the $6,000 range: Ford Escort, Mercury Lynx, Chevrolet Chevette, Pontiac T1000, Mazda GLC (Great Little Car) hatchback coupe , Isuzu Pickup, Fiat Strada
In the $7,000 range: Pontiac J2000, Isuzu Sedan, Ford Mustang (it wasn't really what it is today), Mazda GLC Sedan
In the $8,000s-$9,000s: Pontiac Phoenix, Chrysler LeBaron, Dodge 400, Jeep Renegade, Chevy Impala
$10,000+: Chevy Monte Carlo, Pontiac Trans Am, Chevrolet Camaro
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Post by: Nick on December 02, 2020, 04:00:16 PM
Because tastes evolve over the years. These shows from the 80s are Price in their prime, yes... but that was the 1980s. This is 2020. Times change. Technology changes. The host has changed, and has made the show his own.

But I would argue that there is a "best way" to how The Price Is Right should be produced.  Here we see the best way in action.  The current way is not the best way, even if it does survive.

the set actually looks so much darker with all that black space around the doors and turntable

This was a good thing.  Your attention should be drawn to the set pieces and the "areas of action", if you will.  Why they started re-purposing so much of the set to draw attention to "dead zones" never made sense to me.  There's a central point to the action, and drawing in parts that don't pertain just make things look busy.

the relatively bland color scheme of everything else makes the whole thing look dull.

Not sure what you're referring to as bland, but I would say the current doors, for instance, with is many embedded shapes and bright lights is just too busy.  The set used to be soft on the eyes, and I would say that was better.
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Post by: therealcu2010 on December 02, 2020, 04:33:55 PM
This was a good thing.  Your attention should be drawn to the set pieces and the "areas of action", if you will.  Why they started re-purposing so much of the set to draw attention to "dead zones" never made sense to me.  There's a central point to the action, and drawing in parts that don't pertain just make things look busy.

Because said "dead zones" stick out far more like a sore thumb in 16:9 HD with its larger frame (and the fact that screens in general are considerably larger than they used to be) than 4:3 SD. It looks like crap. The MDS specials they did in season 36 in HD really put the difference in perspective... the turntable in particular looked cramped.

I'm not saying that the set looked terrible in 1982. I'm sure it looked great on CRT TVs in 1982. Using the 1982 set and color scheme in 2020 would be terrible.

I generally agree with you that the Barker era was far superior to the show that's on now, and I much prefer these episodes to the ones now with Drew Carey. I flipped it on earlier and saw a classic Nothing But Furniture showcase and legitimately teared up. I'm just saying that what worked back then doesn't work anymore, and I'm sure if you ask most of our newer, younger members, they would probably prefer Drew's shows. Let's enjoy these classic episodes while we have them and not turn this into a "Bob vs. Drew" or a "one way is better than the other", because when it comes to art (which television, being a form of visual media, certainly is), there is no "one best way"... it's all subjective, and it evolves with time.
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Post by: mellongraig on December 02, 2020, 04:45:25 PM
Those people outside the US who aren't able to access the channel, all hope is not lost. You can use any type of VPN as long it is connected to the US like I do and then you should have access to it in no problem.

It could have been possible that Yvonne may have been on the show before and sometimes those may have been slipped on by the staff (if it was daytime, though nighttime can be considered a separate entity back in the day). Maybe that was also the same case for Susan when the next batch will begin tomorrow.
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Post by: Nick on December 02, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
Because said "dead zones" stick out far more like a sore thumb in 16:9 HD with its larger frame (and the fact that screens in general are considerably larger than they used to be) than 4:3 SD. It looks like crap.

I disagree.  When I am watching the show, I'm focusing on a central point of action (i.e. the game board, the contestant's face, etc.).  The dead zones aren't even in my perspective.

I generally agree with you that the Barker era was far superior to the show that's on now, and I much prefer these episodes to the ones now with Drew Carey. I flipped it on earlier and saw a classic Nothing But Furniture showcase and legitimately teared up. I'm just saying that what worked back then doesn't work anymore

I would disagree that it does work today, or if not, then The Price Is Right doesn't work anymore, but hey, it had a good run of being a great show.

when it comes to art (which television, being a form of visual media, certainly is), there is no "one best way"... it's all subjective, and it evolves with time.

I'm not going to belabour my point, but I would disagree that it is subjective.  There are inherent qualities, methods and parts to the execution of The Price Is Right that made it a better show in 1982 than in 2020.  That could be a separate thread, but my position is there is a "best way", and it's been a long time since the "best way" was followed.

Those people outside the US who aren't able to access the channel, all hope is not lost. You can use any type of VPN as long it is connected to the US like I do and then you should have access to it in no problem.

That's illegal, immoral and probably contrary to the terms of your ISP and PlutoTV's terms of service at the same time.  I would not encourage this kind of behaviour.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 05:30:21 PM
This is interesting, re: YouTube uploads, they may not be safe entirely it seems now. Per a post over at the Game Show Forum....

"Imad Khuri uploads a metric ton of TPIR to YouTube. Back in early November, he noted that Fremantle took down a slew of of his episodes...all of them from season 11. Along comes the Pluto channel, and whaddya know, they exclusively have season 11.

It seems that they'll leave episodes alone if Pluto's not going to air them in the forseeable future, but if they are, off they go."
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 02, 2020, 05:37:50 PM
That's illegal, immoral and probably contrary to the terms of your ISP and PlutoTV's terms of service at the same time.  I would not encourage this kind of behaviour.

Nick, I understand that you're a very religious person, but this is pretty silly.
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Post by: Briguy on December 02, 2020, 05:45:44 PM
Just thought I´d add in which cars were frequently seen on the show in what price range at that time:

In the $6,000 range: Ford Escort, Mercury Lynx, Chevrolet Chevette, Pontiac T1000, Mazda GLC (Great Little Car) hatchback coupe , Isuzu Pickup, Fiat Strada
In the $7,000 range: Pontiac J2000, Isuzu Sedan, Ford Mustang (it wasn't really what it is today), Mazda GLC Sedan
In the $8,000s-$9,000s: Pontiac Phoenix, Chrysler LeBaron, Dodge 400, Jeep Renegade, Chevy Impala
$10,000+: Chevy Monte Carlo, Pontiac Trans Am, Chevrolet Camaro

Whenever did they offer a Chevrolet Impala on TPiR in 1982-1983 era? I'd think that optioned up, even with it being the lower-level of the two full-sized Chevrolet models of the era (the Caprice Classic was the luxury model), it would generally be more expensive than $10,000 – likely $10,000-$11,000 as typically optioned with the more expensive Caprice generally going above $12,500.

Anyhow, to add ... the Golden Road cars I've seen so far per episodes that have been uploaded to video sharing: the Chrysler LeBaron convertible, Oldsmobile Toronado, Cadillac Cimmaron and the Toyota motorhome w/Dolphin shell. I also think they had the Ford Mustang GLX convertible at least once, as did the Datsun 280ZX coupe. The 1984 Chevrolet Corvette didn't come out until late in the 1982-1983 taping season and I'd imagine that if offered it was only once or twice and very late in the spring of 1983, and I'm sure the Cadillac Fleetwood was not offered this season.

Also in the $7000-$9000 range, the Ford Fairmont, which was in its last year of production in 1983. (Not Thairmont or other misspellings as I've seen on here.)

Brian
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Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 02, 2020, 06:12:54 PM
"Imad Khuri uploads a metric ton of TPIR to YouTube. Back in early November, he noted that Fremantle took down a slew of of his episodes...all of them from season 11. Along comes the Pluto channel, and whaddya know, they exclusively have season 11.

It seems that they'll leave episodes alone if Pluto's not going to air them in the forseeable future, but if they are, off they go."

I would ask Imad Khuri if the entire episode was blocked, or if it was only one segment. Someone in the Discord tested out uploading one 30-minute segment, just to demonstrate how the audio got skewed off, and the reason it was blocked wasn't because of the whole episode, but of only one pricing game segment. That same segment was also uploaded to the Barker Era YouTube channel the day after. I think Content ID is only blocking the best moments already uploaded to that YouTube channel scheduled to be released technically, and not the full episode.

For lack of a better term, TPiR Barker Era has made me nostalgic for an era I wasn't alive for. It's amazing on how natural the contestant interactions feel, and I understand why people say the show was better in the past then now.  But, at the same time, I know we can never have *exactly* what made the show so good back then now (although I'd argue current LMAD hits pretty close solely in the contestant interactions department), and there's a reason why I liked the current show enough to attend tapings and hear the three words we want to hear - "COME ON DOWN!"
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 02, 2020, 06:15:20 PM
I can’t remember a specific instance of an Impala being offered, but I’m fairly sure it happened.

Although Golden Road cars were much nicer than cars usually offered on the show, I don’t think they started offering the dream cars we’re more used to until 5-digit cars starting appearing in other games. I guess once GR lost the distinction of being the only game with 5-digit cars, they upgraded the prizes to keep the game special.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 02, 2020, 06:26:59 PM
This is interesting, re: YouTube uploads, they may not be safe entirely it seems now. Per a post over at the Game Show Forum....

"Imad Khuri uploads a metric ton of TPIR to YouTube. Back in early November, he noted that Fremantle took down a slew of of his episodes...all of them from season 11. Along comes the Pluto channel, and whaddya know, they exclusively have season 11.

It seems that they'll leave episodes alone if Pluto's not going to air them in the forseeable future, but if they are, off they go."

What about the episodes that have been on YouTube for years, including years like 2012 before Pluto was even founded?


I think it's smart to do that.  Otherwise, what would be the point of watching.  Several might not like it, but if it'll air in the foreseeable future, for the most part it's not a big deal
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 06:43:58 PM
What about the episodes that have been on YouTube for years, including years like 2012 before Pluto was even founded?

I think it's smart to do that.  Otherwise, what would be the point of watching.  Several might not like it, but if it'll air in the foreseeable future, for the most part it's not a big deal

Of Season 11? Good question, might be just episodes they are to air, and more because of specific segments they've singled out for use on their social media. That'd make sense. I do hope they create an on demand channel for the shows at some point as they get further into the run. I'd wonder if they would plan that at some point, I know some have wanted something like that for years and years since they began streaming/archiving the regular show online.

I also wonder something else too.....given they've created a channel just for Barker's era, titled specifically as such, do you imagine down the line they may do similar for the modern era with Drew? I could see them trying it, I mean they got 13 years and counting of shows to pull from now including many Primetime Specials, and given they have found a way to get the old shows visible somewhere, I'd suspect the barrier to getting more recent ones seen as well would be less than it woulda been before.
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Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 02, 2020, 07:02:52 PM
Hopefully, that is years off. But I could see it happening.

And I say this as a fan of the Drew Carey Era (minus a few seasons). :-)
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Post by: mellongraig on December 02, 2020, 07:06:10 PM
I can’t remember a specific instance of an Impala being offered, but I’m fairly sure it happened.

Although Golden Road cars were much nicer than cars usually offered on the show, I don’t think they started offering the dream cars we’re more used to until 5-digit cars starting appearing in other games. I guess once GR lost the distinction of being the only game with 5-digit cars, they upgraded the prizes to keep the game special.

Even though contestants back then were generally one and done, there was also a winnings limit imposed by the network back in the day. Once that increased and later eliminated the prize value went up as the years went on.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 02, 2020, 07:14:04 PM
Of Season 11? Good question, might be just episodes they are to air, and more because of specific segments they've singled out for use on their social media. That'd make sense. I do hope they create an on demand channel for the shows at some point as they get further into the run. I'd wonder if they would plan that at some point, I know some have wanted something like that for years and years since they began streaming/archiving the regular show online.


Not just, Season 11 but every season in the Barker era, especially if the plan is to air those over time.  Based on the current pattern, that might take a while.  Not too bitter about Season 11-12.  GSN was "kind enough to air them weekday morning, but that was over 21 years ago.  Those were some great days!

I hope it's not for a long time as well, urbanpreppie.  It is possible, but I think unlikely.  Family Feud still has full episodes so that may be a sign
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 07:29:21 PM
Not just, Season 11 but every season in the Barker era, especially if the plan is to air those over time.  Based on the current pattern, that might take a while.  Not too bitter about Season 11-12.  GSN was "kind enough to air them weekday morning, but that was over 21 years ago.  Those were some great days!

I hope it's not for a long time as well, urbanpreppie.  It is possible, but I think unlikely.  Family Feud still has full episodes so that may be a sign

What does Feud have to do with this topic? Curious.

And I was actually thinking.....with roughly 190-200 shows a year in Barker era going from Season 11 onward (and by the end 175 typically), and 6 shows a day aired, assuming no major repeat cycles along the way...it'd take just over a month to get through each season and slightly less so by the end. So it would take them just over 2 years at 25 months to get through everything before they'd have to start over. I'm still wondering incidentally why they skipped over the 1st week of Season 11, I find that really odd. I posed the question to their Twitter account, but got no response.

Also on this......with the volume of content, at some even from Season 11 onward about 4700 episodes, I would wonder if they may at some point do what GSN did and run various eras at different times, vs. going straight through strictly. Give a little something for every audience that way. But time will tell I suppose.

Another interesting thing when they come up (which wouldn't be till Season 12 now unless I forgot something), would be the handling of the lone half hour episodes in years CBS aired the Bake-Off (or if they get to the first 10 years, the Magazine prompted shows). Assuming they kept this 6 hour/6 show block running consistently, how would they handle that? Run the episode twice back to back to fill an hour? Skip it altogether? I guess thinking on it, the cycle would still end cleanly with it running 4 times.....just the times would be a little off for the 1st and 3rd ones....so it could work...but still be interesting to see what they'd do with those.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 02, 2020, 07:55:19 PM
What does Feud have to do with this topic? Curious.



Sorry to go off-topic, but I brought that up based on earlier comments on whether Fremantle would pull YouTube Price uploads from the show, when they haven't done that with several of their other shows.


Back to the topic, I was thinking about episodes on Pluto emulating what GSN did in the past.  Instead of the current cycle maybe one day run the Early 80s episodes, then the next day late 80s, then early 90s and so on.  We're a long way from that, but I could see them taking that step one at a time in about six months from now
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Post by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on December 02, 2020, 07:56:27 PM
Is this channel available on Samsung TV Plus?
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Post by: Trevor Tuominen on December 02, 2020, 07:59:07 PM
I checked. Unfortunately, no. I watched a little bit of it online, and I haven’t seen the Barker episodes look this beautiful (as I was a toddler when Bob retired). While Drew is worthy, nothing beats the OG episodes.
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Post by: RatRace10 on December 02, 2020, 08:19:49 PM
I love this so much! Been watching this all day!  :-D

I only wish the footage was in 60 FPS instead of 30 so it could really be like watching it on TV, but I don't think any live action shows on Pluto are shown in 60 FPS.

I like that the show has proper closed captioning, not like the current show where it's captioned like a sporting event. There are some oddities about it, though. The indication of the bell varies from (bell dings) to (ding) to (triangle tings). Audience groans are shown as "Awe.", and in one of the episodes from today, Bob saying "Contestants' Row" was shown as "contestant's role". I do like that the captions put what the majority of the audience shouts when there's an audible consensus, instead of just always putting (audience yelling suggestions) like the current show.
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Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 02, 2020, 08:46:52 PM
^Yeah, the quality on the CC appears to vary per episode. Sometimes, it is super accurate, and is useful to get the surnames of people called on down. Other times...


(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783063090852921344/783499579991130122/vlcsnap-2020-12-01-17h07m18s356.png)
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 08:57:32 PM
Is Bob Parker at all related to Alex Trebel?  :D
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Post by: FPGWillyT on December 02, 2020, 09:00:52 PM
For me, especially starting with S37, they mad a conscious choice to delve into tge “Fernando” mode of TPiR production making looking good more important than feeling good
And I haven’t felt this good in years.  Even though these episodes are 38 years old, even though the audience seems comatose at times, even though you notice Bob “rushing” (wait to time the “skit showcase” coming), even though you see the chips/smudges, this is not as important as hearing JO shout “a new car”.  It’s not as important as being able to say “Hi” to the beauties (I guarantee I ain’t the only one).

Whoever “curated” which episodes to digitize first, you have done a fabulous job.  I have found each and every “easter egg”.  Could be the playing of a specific pricing game, could be the way the game was won or lost, could be the contestant him/herself.  I don’t care.

I just know it will be fantastic to watch it unravel before my eyes.  Point is:  I’m feeling good.

Edit:  Superball without MGGS?!?! 
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 02, 2020, 09:07:06 PM
For me, especially starting with S37, they mad a conscious choice to delve into tge “Fernando” mode of TPiR production making looking good more important than feeling good
And I haven’t felt this good in years.  Even though these episodes are 38 years old, even though the audience seems comatose at times, even though you notice Bob “rushing” (wait to time the “skit showcase” coming), even though you see the chips/smudges, this is not as important as hearing JO shout “a new car”.  It’s not as important as being able to say “Hi” to the beauties (I guarantee I ain’t the only one).

You know a thought occurred to me, with some 3 seasons and change before JO's last show/death....it might be jarring seeing that come up again in time, even knowing its' coming. Will be so used to him by then.
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Post by: UltraPrice on December 02, 2020, 09:10:08 PM
We're up to 4602D now, also new to Pluto. For those who don't know, an episode highlighted in gray on the tpirstats.com calendars like this one indicates that the games listed are not confirmed to be in order as shown. In fact, every game listed as of this post is out of order from what was actually played.

Right now the gray shaded dates for September 1982 are September 6-10, 28 and 30.  Hopefully there will be less and less gray shades dates in the near future.
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Post by: supersaver87 on December 02, 2020, 10:00:48 PM
Another interesting thing when they come up (which wouldn't be till Season 12 now unless I forgot something), would be the handling of the lone half hour episodes in years CBS aired the Bake-Off (or if they get to the first 10 years, the Magazine prompted shows). Assuming they kept this 6 hour/6 show block running consistently, how would they handle that?

My guess is they'll pair it up with another half-hour episode to keep the timing intact.
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Post by: asd2001 on December 03, 2020, 12:27:48 AM
Apologies if this was already mentioned, but (assuming it happens) I’m most excited to eventually see the Season 22 premiere, which as many of us know was not shown in 99% of the country and never re-aired.
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Post by: UltraPrice on December 03, 2020, 12:30:22 AM
My guess is they are saving the season 11 premiere week for around New Years Day.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 12:43:05 AM
My guess is they are saving the season 11 premiere week for around New Years Day.

Hmm....that would be interesting. I suppose could see why.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 12:45:12 AM
Apologies if this was already mentioned, but (assuming it happens) I’m most excited to eventually see the Season 22 premiere, which as many of us know was not shown in 99% of the country and never re-aired.

If you hadn't known, it did pop up on YouTube a few years ago by David Downs (RIP) when he had the Fun & Games Channel running. So if you've not seen it before, you can now. It's the studio master too.

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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 02:16:12 AM
Anyone have any idea why the plugs before SCSD #1 sometimes air, and sometimes don't? I assume there has to be some reason vs. Pluto cutting it off by accident occasionally.
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Post by: CaseyBuck on December 03, 2020, 02:36:31 AM
Anyone have any idea why the plugs before SCSD #1 sometimes air, and sometimes don't? I assume there has to be some reason vs. Pluto cutting it off by accident occasionally.

It alternates between the "some members of our studio audience will receive" plug (which is left in), and the ticket plug (which is edited out).
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 02:40:25 AM
It alternates between the "some members of our studio audience will receive" plug (which is left in), and the ticket plug (which is edited out).

Ah gotcha, I half thought that may be why (or conversely that somehow some companies hadn't been compensated for their plugs to be re-aired or something, which seems silly as I type that lol).....but I wasn't sure if the ticket plug was standard in one spot or not. Where was it if not there? Or was it not ran daily then? I am kinda curious what they'll do when they get to the era where the ticket plug began to run daily after SCSD #1, it'd look kinda strange to do a hard cut before Bob's toss to break every show. I'd tend to think they'll leave it in at that point just due to that, but could be wrong.
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Post by: JT on December 03, 2020, 06:58:56 AM
I am enjoying this trip back to the early 80s as much as everyone else and I was watching the show back in the 70s and 80s.  For all you younger viewers out there:  This is how the show is hosted, produced and directed.  Period.  The shows we are all enjoying now is what led to Price's iconic status.   Every show was unique in it's own way and Bob knew how to build suspense like no other.  Pay attention and enjoy all the little details that are missing from the current run.  Ok, back to Pluto TV.... 
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Post by: FPGWillyT on December 03, 2020, 07:46:33 AM
I am kinda curious what they'll do when they get to the era where the ticket plug began to run daily after SCSD #1

One can only hope they leave it in for us. 
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Post by: mellongraig on December 03, 2020, 07:59:53 AM
Interesting that on 4604D, Bob did not reset the big wheel back to 5 cents in the bonus spin/spinoff for the spinner trying to tie $1.00 (and win $11,000) to have another spinoff. However it did not affect the outcome (given where it landed on at the end).
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Post by: UltraPrice on December 03, 2020, 08:26:07 AM
Interesting that on 4604D, Bob did not reset the big wheel back to 5 cents in the bonus spin/spinoff for the spinner trying to tie $1.00 (and win $11,000) to have another spinoff. However it did not affect the outcome (given where it landed on at the end).

It's a good thing the wheel didn't land on 15. 
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Post by: tpirfan28 on December 03, 2020, 10:18:48 AM
So...observations from a few shows in.
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 03, 2020, 11:09:42 AM
I always thought of Trader Bob as a less-engaging version of Hurdles, but with small prizes. I like the old timey general store set, but that's about all.
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Post by: asd2001 on December 03, 2020, 11:43:56 AM
If you hadn't known, it did pop up on YouTube a few years ago by David Downs (RIP) when he had the Fun & Games Channel running. So if you've not seen it before, you can now. It's the studio master too.

I definitely had no idea. Thank you!
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Post by: UltraPrice on December 03, 2020, 11:59:00 AM
4604D had a contestant go over by only $4 in Card Game.  Is this the smallest known overbid?
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Post by: SamTheSham on December 03, 2020, 12:08:26 PM
In several of these shows, there has been a redhead sitting in the front row, next to the “Right” seat. During the opening, she gives little wave to the camera.  Any idea who she is?
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Post by: ntpir on December 03, 2020, 12:32:23 PM
Wow. I never realized how much they played Poker Game back in the day. I haven't been able to watch every episode (work wouldn't understand...) so far aired on Pluto but every episode I have watched has had Poker Game. I love it!!!

Willy, every time you post in this thread...perfection! You speak every sentiment I'm thinking!!
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Post by: asd2001 on December 03, 2020, 12:33:52 PM
Wow. I never realized how much they played Poker Game back in the day. I haven't been able to watch every episode (work wouldn't understand...) so far aired on Pluto but every episode I have watched has had Poker Game. I love it!!!

Willy, every time you post in this thread...perfection! You speak every sentiment I'm thinking!!

The Poker Game airing just now (12:30pm EST) is as good of a win in that game as I've ever seen!

Also I loved hearing the "whoop whoop whoop" sound effect used for a Bonus Spin landing on one of the green sections! I had never seen that prior to just a few minutes ago.
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Post by: ntpir on December 03, 2020, 12:46:55 PM
"Also I loved hearing the "whoop whoop whoop" sound effect used for a Bonus Spin landing on one of the green sections! I had never seen that prior to just a few minutes

And it just kept right on going! I thought for sure a wrong key was hit and the WHOOP WHOOP would stop.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 12:52:14 PM
"Also I loved hearing the "whoop whoop whoop" sound effect used for a Bonus Spin landing on one of the green sections! I had never seen that prior to just a few minutes

And it just kept right on going! I thought for sure a wrong key was hit and the WHOOP WHOOP would stop.

I noticed on one episode last night, the winning dings at the end of the Showcases played right into the credit roll pretty much. I almost thought it would keep going after it began too before it stopped.
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Post by: FPGWillyT on December 03, 2020, 01:13:31 PM
...the credit roll...

Nice to see those again too!
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Post by: mellongraig on December 03, 2020, 01:20:06 PM
Keep in mind that $5,000 was a lot to win back in 1982 and that necessitated the whoop sound for a green section. This was also the day where Holly had appliance battle issues (and it happened again on 4744D).

I felt so bad for the Card Game player from 4604D to lose by so little ($4) and up until now I thought $5 was the closest loss I have seen in this game. This will go down in history as being one of the most painful losses in the game's history.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 02:07:56 PM
Keep in mind that $5,000 was a lot to win back in 1982 and that necessitated the whoop sound for a green section. This was also the day where Holly had appliance battle issues (and it happened again on 4744D).

I felt so bad for the Card Game player from 4604D to lose by so little ($4) and up until now I thought $5 was the closest loss I have seen in this game. This will go down in history as being one of the most painful losses in the game's history.

I noticed Bob said $400 after that....thought maybe I misheard 1st time.

I'm gonna have to rewatch for the appliance battle......was in 2nd half right? Pluto went wonky on me during that part so missed much of it. Thanks for reminding me.

Sidenote, speaking of same episode, how often did it happen where Bob couldn't even read off the ARP difference of the winner in the Showcase? It can't have happened often, if really at all, but it did there.
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Post by: iluvpir on December 03, 2020, 02:43:15 PM
During the episode that aired between 1-2pm eastern, during the 2nd SCSD 2 contestants tied with $1.00. During the bonus spin/spin off the wheel was not reset to the 5 for the second contestant's spin after the first contestant spun $1.00 again.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 02:47:50 PM
During the episode that aired between 1-2pm eastern, during the 2nd SCSD 2 contestants tied with $1.00. During the bonus spin/spin off the wheel was not reset to the 5 for the second contestant's spin after the first contestant spun $1.00 again.

Yeah that's been discussed a bit already. Wonder what they woulda done had it negatively impacted the 2nd spinner's spin/effected the outcome directly, assuming they'd have even noticed it happened, which given situations like the missied $1.00 in 1993 and the bonus spin/spinoff DQ in 2002, they may not have.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 03:17:28 PM
It should be noted that the orange ball Bob received from someone was used for Hole in One twice. Once in the set of episodes aired/airing today (as is referenced in the FAQ), and once I think in the set yesterday.
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Post by: mrbrown2195 on December 03, 2020, 03:25:49 PM
That's illegal, immoral and probably contrary to the terms of your ISP and PlutoTV's terms of service at the same time.  I would not encourage this kind of behaviour.

Eh, you're violating the terms of service of PlutoTV. It's a civil breach of contract, not criminal copyright infringement.

Also, is there any immorality in sticking it to ViacomCBS?  :lol:
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Post by: pannoni1 on December 03, 2020, 03:49:27 PM
I've watched about a dozen or so episodes so far, it appears that the house minimums around this time were $300 for an  IUFB, $1000 for the total ARP for a pricing game, and $5000 for the Showcase. Just like on many home games and in other eras, if you keep watching/playing, you'll come up with the same products/prizes again, helping you to hone in better on your pricing skills like a good ol' LFaT. Just don't bring in a newspaper like an audience member near where Frances was called on down from 4611D was holding. It certainly didn't look like a staffer who may have used a newspaper for the GPs in Now... and Then.

PS My earliest personal memories were around Season 16 summer reruns where I could faintly recall some episodes with dark hair Bob, some with gray hair Bob with the pink Pricedown Big Wheel walls, and some with the then-new Super Ball-style Big Wheel walls. Since I was just a preschooler/kindergartener for the next three years, those reruns will still seem very fresh since I was still too young to really appreciate what was being offered, not to mention that very few episodes from the seasons in the high teens were ever rerun by GSN. I still have my personal notebook with a mock Check Game from 1990 that speaking of misspellings (check out 4611D again), I wrote VOID as "VOLD". Speaking of which, you'll also see that the VOID stamp was a lot stronger then compared to today where it seems like over half of each letter is missing.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 03, 2020, 03:54:37 PM
Keep in mind that $5,000 was a lot to win back in 1982 and that necessitated the whoop sound for a green section. This was also the day where Holly had appliance battle issues (and it happened again on 4744D).

I felt so bad for the Card Game player from 4604D to lose by so little ($4) and up until now I thought $5 was the closest loss I have seen in this game. This will go down in history as being one of the most painful losses in the game's history.

They actually used the whoop (and clang) for special wins that wouldn't otherwise receive that later on.  For example, finding the master key in Master Key.

On a related note to $5000 wins being big back in the day, I wouldn't consider a $4 margin for a loss the most painful all time.  In this case, a close loss in 1982.  Cars, prize packages, and showcases weren't as expensive either, compared to later on.

To be clear, that totally sucked, but close defeats happened.  Today, missing the win by $4 for a car (or showcase) worth $25,000 or more would be brutal.  For me it would feel awful since that would be tough to do
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 04:08:59 PM
I've watched about a dozen or so episodes so far, it appears that the house minimums around this time were $300 for an  IUFB, $1000 for the total ARP for a pricing game, and $5000 for the Showcase. Just like on many home games and in other eras, if you keep watching/playing, you'll come up with the same products/prizes again, helping you to hone in better on your pricing skills like a good ol' LFaT. Just don't bring in a newspaper like an audience member near where Frances was called on down from 4611D was holding. It certainly didn't look like a staffer who may have used a newspaper for the GPs in Now... and Then.

PS My earliest personal memories were around Season 16 summer reruns where I could faintly recall some episodes with dark hair Bob, some with gray hair Bob with the pink Pricedown Big Wheel walls, and some with the then-new Super Ball-style Big Wheel walls. missing.

You know what's funny with this....hearing Bob comment on a guy's gray hair and liking it some 5 years before he went gray himself lol. That amused me. Also interesting/amusing too, is the number of aquarium appearances so far, particularly given furs were gone. I've counted at least 3 times one has shown up. When did those get phased out?

EDITED TO ADD: An appearance of the WGMC term in the repeat just now during Trader Bob. That was quite funny to see. There seems to be a multitude of interesting moments in every episode to be honest, be it a contestant or a situation. Says a lot about the era and the pacing for that matter.
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Post by: SamJ93 on December 03, 2020, 04:26:43 PM
You know what's funny with this....hearing Bob comment on a guy's gray hair and liking it some 5 years before he went gray himself lol. That amused me. Also interesting/amusing too, is the number of aquarium appearances so far, particularly given furs were gone. I've counted at least 3 times one has shown up. When did those get phased out?

Owning an aquarium doesn't require needlessly killing animals, as is the case with fur coats, so I can see why Bob wouldn't have cared about those as much at first...
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 05:30:18 PM
Not sure how to log in properly for FAQ, but the Safe Crackers blooper in the last episode of the batch today, wherein Bob can't open the safe at all to reveal the prize inside for a good few moments (Wednesday of 461x), is worth a mention there.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 07:25:04 PM
So here's a question I thought about yesterday. Do you guys suspect they'll air fresh shows/cycles 7 days a week? Or might they do a big amount of repeats from through the week on Saturdays and Sundays? I could see them maybe doing that, what do you all think?
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Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 03, 2020, 07:27:48 PM
According to the official channel: 6 new shows each weekday, reruns over the weekend. (in the comments)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-IhC90c8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-IhC90c8E)
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 07:45:24 PM
According to the official channel: 6 new shows each weekday, reruns over the weekend. (in the comments)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-IhC90c8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-IhC90c8E)

Thanks for that, curious if they will reair all 30 fresh shows then or not, but guess time will tell. It's a good idea though, so anyone who misses any won't miss out entirely if they miss them on the day they first air. I see them saying there's no plans for any shows from 1st 10 years incidentally in comments too. Makes me wonder if Bob made them agree to that to get any repeats, and if they may still hold to it even after he was gone. I'd hope not on that, but.....guess again time will tell.

Sidenote, watching through one repeat again just now as I missed part of it earlier as I mentioned a while ago actually, was there an issue with opening the safe in Safe Crackers at this time? In both playings they aired today, there was trouble opening the door initially, with second case being much worse than the first. I wonder why.

Also..how many games were in rotation by Season 11, anyone know for certain? I'd assume someone would. It's sorta wild seeing how quick they seemed to recycle for this period. I didn't think they would quite so much, but seems to amount to roughly 2 times a week a game is being played, for some at least.
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Post by: Teddy on December 03, 2020, 08:14:47 PM
Also..how many games were in rotation by Season 11, anyone know for certain? I'd assume someone would. It's sorta wild seeing how quick they seemed to recycle for this period. I didn't think they would quite so much, but seems to amount to roughly 2 times a week a game is being played, for some at least.


I'll name the games that were in the lineup for the beginning of Season 11:

Any Number, Barker's Bargain Bar, Blank Check, Bonus Game, Bullseye '76, Card Game, Check-Out, Cliff Hangers, Clock Game, Danger Price, Dice Game, Double Prices, Five Price Tags, Give or Keep, Golden Road, Grand Game, Grocery Game, Hi Lo, Hit Me, Hole in One, It's Optional, Lucky $even, Money Game, Most Expensive, Now...and Then, 1 Right Price, Penny Ante, Pick-a-Pair, Poker Game, Punch-a-Bunch, Race Game, Range Game, Safe Crackers, Secret "X", Shell Game, Squeeze Play, SuperBall!!, Switcheroo, Take Two, Temptation, Ten Chances, 3 Strikes, Trader Bob

If we were to include the games that were added during the course of said season (Master Key, Plinko), the total would be 45 active games.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 08:36:14 PM
I'll name the games that were in the lineup for the beginning of Season 11:

Any Number, Barker's Bargain Bar, Blank Check, Bonus Game, Bullseye '76, Card Game, Check-Out, Cliff Hangers, Clock Game, Danger Price, Dice Game, Double Prices, Five Price Tags, Give or Keep, Golden Road, Grand Game, Grocery Game, Hi Lo, Hit Me, Hole in One, It's Optional, Lucky $even, Money Game, Most Expensive, Now...and Then, 1 Right Price, Penny Ante, Pick-a-Pair, Poker Game, Punch-a-Bunch, Race Game, Range Game, Safe Crackers, Secret "X", Shell Game, Squeeze Play, SuperBall!!, Switcheroo, Take Two, Temptation, Ten Chances, 3 Strikes, Trader Bob

If we were to include the games that were added during the course of said season (Master Key, Plinko), the total would be 45 active games.

Actually less than I thought, so 2 times a week or so makes sense then, at 30 games total each week. Thanks!
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Post by: Alfonzo on December 03, 2020, 08:40:10 PM
I'll name the games that were in the lineup for the beginning of Season 11:

Any Number, Barker's Bargain Bar, Blank Check, Bonus Game, Bullseye '76, Card Game, Check-Out, Cliff Hangers, Clock Game, Danger Price, Dice Game, Double Prices, Five Price Tags, Give or Keep, Golden Road, Grand Game, Grocery Game, Hi Lo, Hit Me, Hole in One, It's Optional, Lucky $even, Money Game, Most Expensive, Now...and Then, 1 Right Price, Penny Ante, Pick-a-Pair, Poker Game, Punch-a-Bunch, Race Game, Range Game, Safe Crackers, Secret "X", Shell Game, Squeeze Play, SuperBall!!, Switcheroo, Take Two, Temptation, Ten Chances, 3 Strikes, Trader Bob

If we were to include the games that were added during the course of said season (Master Key, Plinko), the total would be 45 active games.
You forgot Hurdles, even though its playing were greatly reduced by this time.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 08:44:15 PM
You forgot Hurdles, even though its playing were greatly reduced by this time.

It lasted through 82? I thought it was retired sooner.

EDIT: Yep it did, was played last on March 31, 1983. Damn.
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Post by: Bee17 on December 03, 2020, 08:52:12 PM
And without letting this become an "old vs new", "Bob vs Drew" discussion, I'm truly amazed at how the show has managed to remain relatively unchanged after so many years. Yes, the sets are newer, the show is more "modern", there's a new host, and so on, but the bones are still very much the same.  The fact that, after close to 50 years, the basic structure of the show has remained unchanged is quite impressive.

I would have to agree here. The basic structure is still there, even after all these years and all these changes. One thing I have to say about it, though, is that back then the show had more room to "breathe". They didn't have to fit in a ton of commercials during breaks, and thus didn't have to rush though things.

As for myself (and I had to stop lurking just to say this, by the way), the current version of the show is fine and all, but it's nice to see these older shows. There was a lot more charm back then, more of a "homemade" feel (if that makes any sense), not to mention the audience wasn't as rowdy as they are now. Sure there was excitement back then, but it was much more subdued compared to now.

Plus they got a LOT of use out of the Turntable back then, compared to now.
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 03, 2020, 08:58:30 PM
Someone commented about how much more they used to use the turntable in the showcase, and I wanted to add how weird it looks to me how they often left the prize displayed on the turntable even after the showcase was over, even as they went to commercial.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 09:04:23 PM
Someone commented about how much more they used to use the turntable in the showcase, and I wanted to add how weird it looks to me how they often left the prize displayed on the turntable even after the showcase was over, even as they went to commercial.

I've noticed that a lot, thought that was interesting.....don't recall it much at the end of Bob's run that I grew up on. Also, is it me, or did they not turn it all the way around for games often back then? Maybe it's the angle of the camera shot (creativity that again stands out a lot here relative to later years), but the games seemed to be set-up a little crooked many times when they stopped turning it, that'd be the best word I could use.
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Post by: saturn93 on December 03, 2020, 09:15:30 PM
Someone commented about how much more they used to use the turntable in the showcase, and I wanted to add how weird it looks to me how they often left the prize displayed on the turntable even after the showcase was over, even as they went to commercial.
On the 8 PM ET/7 PM CT (which I watched), luggage was on the turntable in the first showcase.  It was still showing when they went to commercial. 
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 03, 2020, 09:53:25 PM
So...observations from a few shows in.
  • Bob would get #MeToo'd today.
  • They are straight up abusing the Train...I think it's been in virtually every-other episode so far.
  • Penny Ante needed to come back about 15 years ago.
  • Never liked the TT colors of this set, hasn't changed.  The stucco is super obvious...the set change will be soon, I think.
  • Trader Bob is.....interesting.
  • Marc Breslow's style is great.

I remember the train being used a lot during the original run, but I have to agree about the overuse of it.  I remember 1999 quite well since I had time to catch the morning, non WinTV version of Season's 11 & 12.  It seemed as if it wasn't an episode of TPIR unless it made an appearance in every episode, maybe even twice!  Not that I had a problem with it, but when I rewatched it I don't recall seeing the use of it (for the IUFB) that many times!

I miss Breslow, but like a lot of things, there was good to come from his departure.  Trader Bob was a blast.  I didn't miss it too much when it was gone, but I also didn't miss when the game looked like it was about to be won but turned out not to be the case.  Penny Ante I'm neutral with; a return would result in a digital version and not a real set that could break down again.  Not only do I miss the game; I miss the camera shot of the game that was used throughout the 80s; I think that was done away with in Season 21.

I'm in the minority, or it might just be me that loves the TT colors.  The Green with Orange & Purple stand out for me.  I don't know; I guess I respect those secondary colors.  The design that'll be coming up soon (used from 1982-1992) is much better, but I think it's best combination the show has had overall.

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According to the official channel: 6 new shows each weekday, reruns over the weekend. (in the comments)


Good to know; thanks, urbanpreppie.  Tuning into the show to catch everything isn't a reality going forward, so it helps that they're rerunning what aired each week.  As far as pre-Season 11, I don't see Pluto airing anything from the show's first ten years even after Bob's gone, at least not right away.  I don't think there's any connection with an OK given to run the last 25 years of the Barker era and skip over the first ten seasons over a fur ban or any other reason
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 10:05:33 PM
I remember the train being used a lot during the original run, but I have to agree about the overuse of it.  I remember 1999 quite well since I had time to catch the morning, non WinTV version of Season's 11 & 12.  It seemed as if it wasn't an episode of TPIR unless it made an appearance in every episode, maybe even twice!  Not that I had a problem with it, but when I rewatched it I don't recall seeing the use of it (for the IUFB) that many times!

I miss Breslow, but like a lot of things, there was good to come from his departure.  Trader Bob was a blast.  I didn't miss it too much when it was gone, but I also didn't miss when the game looked like it was about to be won but turned out not to be the case.  Penny Ante I'm neutral with; a return would result in a digital version and not a real set that could break down again.  Not only do I miss the game; I miss the camera shot of the game that was used throughout the 80s; I think that was done away with in Season 21.

I'm in the minority, or it might just be me that loves the TT colors.  The Green with Orange & Purple stand out for me.  I don't know; I guess I respect those secondary colors.  The design that'll be coming up soon (used from 1982-1992) is much better, but I think it's best combination the show has had overall.


Good to know; thanks, urbanpreppie.  Tuning into the show to catch everything isn't a reality going forward, so it helps that they're rerunning what aired each week.  As far as pre-Season 11, I don't see Pluto airing anything from the show's first ten years even after Bob's gone, at least not right away.  I don't think there's any connection with an OK given to run the last 25 years of the Barker era and skip over the first ten seasons over a fur ban or any other reason

I'd wonder if maybe.....just mayybee.....the actual premiere would see the light of day outside of YouTube studio master/original broadcast copies after he passed, if nothing else as a tribute to him, but would have to see. As an aside BTW, I asked about how they'd run the repeats on weekends for clarification, and they aren't running all 30 (or for this week 24) shows, but a mix of the best. I haven't gotten this confirmed yet from them, but I am assuming there will be 6 a day like they run normally, for a total of 12 of them. So won't see them all, but almost half, or in this week's case exactly half.
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Post by: garffreak on December 03, 2020, 10:21:43 PM
In hindsight, most of the fun of Penny Ante is its mechanical unpredictability.  And the Wubba-Wubba sound effect.

Something of note I saw today: in Bullseye, Bob says you need to be BETWEEN $5 and $6.  That book, picking two at $2.50, puts the contestant exactly at $5.00. Technically not BETWEEN the two values.  Looks like they dodged a technical issue on that one if it's a win by the rules or Bob's explanation.
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Post by: kingpin623 on December 03, 2020, 10:22:14 PM
...Also interesting/amusing too, is the number of aquarium appearances so far, particularly given furs were gone. I've counted at least 3 times one has shown up. When did those get phased out?

I also thought it was interesting and slightly ironic that one of the showcases on one of Wednesday’s shows was a skit about an organ grinder and his monkey.  Of course, it was a person dressed in a monkey costume for the skit (Dian was the only one missing in that skit, so I wonder if it was her or someone else on the show’s staff who donned that costume... 🤔).

JBK
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Post by: kingpin623 on December 03, 2020, 10:29:56 PM
Actually less than I thought, so 2 times a week or so makes sense then, at 30 games total each week. Thanks!

Of course, the combination of sponsorship obligations, pricing game running times, show’s budget, and type of prize being offered means that same games come up more often than others, and I think that has a lot to do with it in the episodes we’ve seen so far.  Three Strikes and Take Two sure have shown up a lot more then than they do now. 
JBK
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Post by: UltraPrice on December 03, 2020, 10:36:14 PM
From February 1984 until June 1987, there a lot of dates in that time period with unknown Pricing Game slotting.  It will be nice to have the correct slotting for all those dates when the time comes
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 03, 2020, 10:43:26 PM
Of course, the combination of sponsorship obligations, pricing game running times, show’s budget, and type of prize being offered means that same games come up more often than others, and I think that has a lot to do with it in the episodes we’ve seen so far.  Three Strikes and Take Two sure have shown up a lot more then than they do now. 
JBK

3 Strikes makes total sense, given it wasn't for luxury cars at this time. When did Hole in One switch to regular cars? They weren't luxury anymore by this point were they? I say that because it's been played a few times already too within first 18 shows aired, and this was still the 1 putt era for it vs. 2.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 12:51:06 AM
Hope this is okay here since it's not channel related specifically, and he has his own thread in OILF troo, but since Hurdles was mentioned earlier, thought it was worth mentioned. In honor of the launch of the channel, Wink Martindale posted a playing of it from October 1980 on his YouTube channel. Also, in addition, check out the legs on the models! Pretty hot stuff lol, watch for what would turn out to be a rather ironic comment from Bob too on that.

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Post by: MSTieScott on December 04, 2020, 01:04:39 AM
Owning an aquarium doesn't require needlessly killing animals, as is the case with fur coats, so I can see why Bob wouldn't have cared about those as much at first...

I don't remember where I heard this, so don't take my word as gospel, but the story I recall hearing was that when it was time for an aquarium to go back to storage in the prize warehouse, the crew would empty it by dumping it into the drain, fish and all. When Bob found out about that, he said no more aquariums as prizes.

Also, is it me, or did they not turn it all the way around for games often back then? Maybe it's the angle of the camera shot (creativity that again stands out a lot here relative to later years), but the games seemed to be set-up a little crooked many times when they stopped turning it, that'd be the best word I could use.

Back in the day, there was a switch on the turntable controls that allowed it to stop in one of two places: perfectly "flat" for pricing games and slightly "off-center" for One Bids (so the prize wasn't at such a steep angle compared to the camera shooting it). I haven't had time to watch much of the Pluto channel yet (much to my frustration), so I don't know if the angles match, but perhaps they were using the One Bid setting for pricing games for some reason?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 01:13:03 AM
I don't remember where I heard this, so don't take my word as gospel, but the story I recall hearing was that when it was time for an aquarium to go back to storage in the prize warehouse, the crew would empty it by dumping it into the drain, fish and all. When Bob found out about that, he said no more aquariums as prizes.

Wow that's terrible if true...as much as I don't like some of Bob's off camera actions/general attitude, I couldn't blame him a bit for reacting like that to this. Was the upkeep that bad otherwise? No other method to switch it out better?

Back in the day, there was a switch on the turntable controls that allowed it to stop in one of two places: perfectly "flat" for pricing games and slightly "off-center" for One Bids (so the prize wasn't at such a steep angle compared to the camera shooting it). I haven't had time to watch much of the Pluto channel yet (much to my frustration), so I don't know if the angles match, but perhaps they were using the One Bid setting for pricing games for some reason?

That seems about right, and thanks for that explanation, that makes lot of sense. Would that button still exist/be in use even today that you know of? Even with the new tech/designs since then? Or something similar if not?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 04:04:37 AM
If anyone cares, I did the math, and Season's 11 through 14 (aka the final season Johnny Olson would appear on and the season Rod would replace him), amount to a total of 788 episodes. Going by 30 aired a week, and then taking away 6 this week since they launched on Tuesday and only are airing 24 this week as a result before the weekend repeats, it will be roughly the 3rd week of June assuming nothing is skipped from now to then and they continue to go straight through with no deviation, to get to Season 15 and the beginning of Rod's era proper as far as his first full season with the show. So will take a 6 and a half month period to go through the end of Johnny's era and the transition to Rod's.

If they don't air the Season 11 premiere week for whatever reason, they'll end up reaching the Season 15 premiere the Tuesday of that 3rd week, and if they do decide to, it'll be on the Wednesday that they do instead.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 04, 2020, 06:29:50 AM
Last couple of Range Game playings I've seen, the rangefinder has looked crooked. In the current show, they actually had a bit of trouble with it.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 04, 2020, 07:41:12 AM
The episode circulating today with Golden Road has a notable paying of 3 Strikes...it will be on again at 1pm, I think.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 04, 2020, 07:50:57 AM
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The episode circulating today with Golden Road has a notable paying of 3 Strikes...it will be on again at 1pm, I think.


I might be a rare occasion these days, if at all but having Golden Road & 3 Strikes on the same show is just one of those things that you didn't think twice of back in the day but one could do a double take given what the latter has become.

IIRC, 3 Strikes + was a year or two away so even with it, you'd see both within the same set of games; I don't know if they ever had both within the same half before 1994
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on December 04, 2020, 10:36:39 AM
on one of today's shows, a Flokati Rug makes a rare pre Press Your Luck appearance... which makes me wonder what other shows had it as a prize
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: jhc2010 on December 04, 2020, 10:51:30 AM
Is there a set rotation the channel has settled on? The first day's schedule was posted in this thread and it was not exactly straightforward. Is the channel going in order of production number? Have any episodes been skipped thus far?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 11:03:30 AM
Is there a set rotation the channel has settled on? The first day's schedule was posted in this thread and it was not exactly straightforward. Is the channel going in order of production number? Have any episodes been skipped thus far?

Yes, they do 6 at a time, 4 times a day beginning at 6am EST, and have gone in order from Week 2 since Wednesday (rotating back in a few shows they first ran Monday as part of doing that), skipping Week 1 for whatever reason, still unsure why that is or if they'll air it during this run of things. They said on YouTube they'd check and see if the Premiere was in their programming schedule, but I'd not hold my breath to see it honestly at least not now, or the rest of the week either. Time will tell though.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 04, 2020, 11:13:38 AM
I really suspect that there was some kind of breakdown in Range Game that necessitated some prizes being switched around in #4623. Why?:

1) Grocery Game is played for a backgammon table. Bob says "We had one of those on the show just the other day", or words to that effect, which gets laughs from the audience.

2) In previous episodes, Range Game had been having problems, including "getting jammed" mid-game.

3) Earlier in the show, a living room is presented for Range Game, to which Bob cryptically comments "That has everything in it but a pinochle table.", which gets inexplicable laughter from the audience. (Yes, he gets the game wrong.)

4) Bob makes some comments during his explanation of the game that also bring laughs from the audience "That rangefinder will start moving slowly up the scale...we hope..." and later "Well, you already know all this." (to the contestant) All the laughter makes me think the rangefinder didn't work the first time through and they had to replay it.

5) If you think about it, a living room is kind of an odd prize for Range Game because it's typically played in the fee games (like Grocery), and likewise, a backgammon table is not typical for Grocery.

6) The show ends with an "edited for broadcast" disclaimer.

So, my ears perked up back when Bob made the pinochle table remark just because it was a very odd thing to say. His comments for the rest of the game and Grocery got me wondering more. Does anyone else think they swapped those games' prizes?

The only hole in my conspiracy theory here is...why would the rangefinder not moving necessitate a prize change? Unless the price got revealed for some reason, they could just replay for the original prize once they got the rangefinder moving again.

THe episode airs again at 4pm EST, I believe, if you want to check it out and comment.






Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 11:20:55 AM
I really suspect that there was some kind of breakdown in Range Game that necessitated some prizes being switched around in #4623. Why?:

1) Grocery Game is played for a backgammon table. Bob says "We had one of those on the show just the other day", or words to that effect, which gets laughs from the audience.

2) In previous episodes, Range Game had been having problems, including "getting jammed" mid-game.

3) Earlier in the show, a living room is presented for Range Game, to which Bob cryptically comments "That has everything in it but a pinochle table.", which gets inexplicable laughter from the audience. (Yes, he gets the game wrong.)

4) Bob makes some comments during his explanation of the game that also bring laughs from the audience "That rangefinder will start moving slowly up the scale...we hope..." and later "Well, you already know all this." (to the contestant) All the laughter makes me think the rangefinder didn't work the first time through and they had to replay it.

5) If you think about it, a living room is kind of an odd prize for Range Game because it's typically played in the fee games (like Grocery), and likewise, a backgammon table is not typical for Grocery.

6) The show ends with an "edited for broadcast" disclaimer.

So, my ears perked up back when Bob made the pinochle table remark just because it was a very odd thing to say. His comments for the rest of the game and Grocery got me wondering more. Does anyone else think they swapped those games' prizes?

The only hole in my conspiracy theory here is...why would the rangefinder not moving necessitate a prize change? Unless the price got revealed for some reason, they could just replay for the original prize once they got the rangefinder moving again.

THe episode airs again at 4pm EST, I believe, if you want to check it out and comment.

Sounds like it was an odd episode all around (I only caught last 20 minutes of it now), between all this and the $35,000 bid (had to be the highest one ever made by far at this point) in the Showcase. Couldn't quite believe that when I heard it.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Ton80 on December 04, 2020, 12:37:02 PM
I had forgotten just how bad the original ferris wheel version of Pick-a-Pair was.  Wow it's tough to watch today!!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 12:44:39 PM
I had forgotten just how bad the original ferris wheel version of Pick-a-Pair was.  Wow it's tough to watch today!!

Sorta amazing it lasted as long as it did under this format. It is way too complicated and time-consuming.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 04, 2020, 12:56:25 PM
Sorta amazing it lasted as long as it did under this format. It is way too complicated and time-consuming.


It lasted long enough for a color-upgrade (or update), to go along with its own theme music!


I actually loved the Ferris Wheel set, despite how painful it was in terms of game flow.  Just one of several things on TPIR that I loved almost as much as I loved the more than necessary set-change!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: William on December 04, 2020, 01:24:09 PM
I really suspect that there was some kind of breakdown in Range Game that necessitated some prizes being switched around in #4623. Why?:

1) Grocery Game is played for a backgammon table. Bob says "We had one of those on the show just the other day", or words to that effect, which gets laughs from the audience.

2) In previous episodes, Range Game had been having problems, including "getting jammed" mid-game.

3) Earlier in the show, a living room is presented for Range Game, to which Bob cryptically comments "That has everything in it but a pinochle table.", which gets inexplicable laughter from the audience. (Yes, he gets the game wrong.)

4) Bob makes some comments during his explanation of the game that also bring laughs from the audience "That rangefinder will start moving slowly up the scale...we hope..." and later "Well, you already know all this." (to the contestant) All the laughter makes me think the rangefinder didn't work the first time through and they had to replay it.

5) If you think about it, a living room is kind of an odd prize for Range Game because it's typically played in the fee games (like Grocery), and likewise, a backgammon table is not typical for Grocery.

6) The show ends with an "edited for broadcast" disclaimer.

So, my ears perked up back when Bob made the pinochle table remark just because it was a very odd thing to say. His comments for the rest of the game and Grocery got me wondering more. Does anyone else think they swapped those games' prizes?

The only hole in my conspiracy theory here is...why would the rangefinder not moving necessitate a prize change? Unless the price got revealed for some reason, they could just replay for the original prize once they got the rangefinder moving again.

THe episode airs again at 4pm EST, I believe, if you want to check it out and comment.

That sounds like a plausible theory. I might point out though that Range Game was also played for a living room #4614... and that's one where the Range gets jammed.

I saw this post right after that segment aired and thought it was the one you were referring to. I also believed that a living room was an odd prize for Range Game when I first saw it.



While I'm here I must say... what a time to be alive! Who would have ever imagined a 24-hour TPIR channel, with a seemingly steady flow of episodes?! I'm learning just how good of a streaming service Pluto is and have already told two people about it this week.

I know this has been a stressful year for many, myself included, so I hope this new channel is therapeutic many more people. It certainly came at the right time!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: JayC on December 04, 2020, 02:14:33 PM
I don't remember where I heard this, so don't take my word as gospel, but the story I recall hearing was that when it was time for an aquarium to go back to storage in the prize warehouse, the crew would empty it by dumping it into the drain, fish and all. When Bob found out about that, he said no more aquariums as prizes.
That's terrible. Could they not return the fish to whereever they were supplied from?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: jhc2010 on December 04, 2020, 02:22:03 PM
So all those rumors for years about music licensing and Barker's Beauties keeping old shows from airing were false?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 04, 2020, 02:33:06 PM
Is there a set rotation the channel has settled on? The first day's schedule was posted in this thread and it was not exactly straightforward.

It started acting normal at 6:00 in the morning.  I think the first six hours were something akin to a test run -- they threw a few random-ish early shows on while they worked out any kinks in the system.  I watched a couple of the first broadcasts, and they were running way over an hour per episode.

Is the channel going in order of production number?

That's a good question, and one that I don't think we have a way to answer right now.  If the schedule holds, though, we should be coming up on a Home Viewer Showcase next Thursday; if we don't, that would seem to indicate they're going by tapedate.

If they're not going by tapedate, that likely means they're following either production numbers (the correct order) or broadcast order.  It'll be a good while before we can figure that out, though -- believe it or not, the next shows to be aired out of order don't come until February of '84.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 02:49:52 PM
If the schedule holds, though, we should be coming up on a Home Viewer Showcase next Thursday; if we don't, that would seem to indicate they're going by tapedate.

The 1st week wouldn't have been taped out of air order right? I'd assume not. If it somehow was, it might explain why they started with Week 2, but I kinda doubt this.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: saturn93 on December 04, 2020, 03:42:36 PM
I remember the train being used a lot during the original run, but I have to agree about the overuse of it.  I remember 1999 quite well since I had time to catch the morning, non WinTV version of Season's 11 & 12.  It seemed as if it wasn't an episode of TPIR unless it made an appearance in every episode, maybe even twice!  Not that I had a problem with it, but when I rewatched it I don't recall seeing the use of it (for the IUFB) that many times!

Just watching now...talk about a #MeToo movement if it was happening now with the woo-woo sound coming and going from the stage.  When did they stop using that sound?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Ton80 on December 04, 2020, 03:47:48 PM
Watching 5 Price Tags now and seeing the "winning" price as a just a red tag with the price instead the "WIN" tag just looks so strange.

I had forgotten how much more time Bob had to spend with the contestants.  The banter between them is sometimes pure gold.  Some of it would never fly in today's PC world, but that doesn't mean it's not still funny!

Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 03:54:37 PM
Watching 5 Price Tags now and seeing the "winning" price as a just a red tag with the price instead the "WIN" tag just looks so strange.

I had forgotten how much more time Bob had to spend with the contestants.  The banter between them is sometimes pure gold.  Some of it would never fly in today's PC world, but that doesn't mean it's not still funny!

I saw that yesterday and wondered if it'd show up with the Win Tag or not, when did that get brought in? Late 80's?

And speaking of PC.....the comments Bob made about a new wife listening to her husband during the Showcases, to both her and then the audience when he got some boos for it on an episode yesterday, kinda shocked me. That was pretty racy/bad even for him I feel like. He'd be raked over the coals for that now.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: JayC on December 04, 2020, 03:56:25 PM
He also told a contestant she had nice legs in the 2pm episode.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 04, 2020, 03:57:58 PM
on one of today's shows, a Flokati Rug makes a rare pre Press Your Luck appearance... which makes me wonder what other shows had it as a prize
I'm pretty sure a Jog-N-Tramp was a consolation prize too.

Already seen Every Trip/Room in the House three times this week, too.
(Themes not a bad thing: TPIR News and Cheerleaders are not bad.)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 04:17:26 PM
He also told a contestant she had nice legs in the 2pm episode.

I saw that too, also referenced Miss Nude Universe in the next segment for another contestant. Mind you this WAS just a year after Dorothy Jo died, not even a year at the time of taping, was he this randy even when she was alive? I sorta doubt that to this degree.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Briguy on December 04, 2020, 04:25:13 PM
A rarity that I don't remember being included even when I saw the original TPiR broadcasts. Certainly I didn't see them with the GSN (either original or uploaded to YouTube):

A plug for Global Van Lines, who delivered the prizes to contestants.

Brian
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: jlgarfield on December 04, 2020, 04:38:16 PM
I saw that yesterday and wondered if it'd show up with the Win Tag or not, when did that get brought in? Late 80's?

And speaking of PC.....the comments Bob made about a new wife listening to her husband during the Showcases, to both her and then the audience when he got some boos for it on an episode yesterday, kinda shocked me. That was pretty racy/bad even for him I feel like. He'd be raked over the coals for that now.

Yep, around 1988.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 04:38:50 PM
Yep, around 1988.

That seems about right, I was thinking like 1989 or so.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 04, 2020, 05:02:48 PM
Seriously, who is the blonde in seat 5 waving hello in almost all if not ALL of the episodes aired.  Anyone else notice?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: C8 on December 04, 2020, 05:04:49 PM
I have to say one of the joys of discovering these old episodes, in order, is just how present JohnnyO is in the showcases. I'd had no idea he would participate in so many (and have such a great time doing them). Rod would do them but I never remembered him being omnipresent. The occasional Rod the Rapper or something else here and there is what I remember.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: GuyWithFace on December 04, 2020, 06:06:16 PM
Mind you this WAS just a year after Dorothy Jo died, not even a year at the time of taping, was [Bob] this randy even when she was alive? I sorta doubt that to this degree.
There were certainly instances (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvmckBM7A8Q) (at the 15:39 and 16:42 portions) of Bob being randy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJpO9d4jMgE&t=5m49s) while Dorothy Jo was still alive, yes.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 04, 2020, 06:25:51 PM
The 1st week wouldn't have been taped out of air order right? I'd assume not. If it somehow was, it might explain why they started with Week 2, but I kinda doubt this.

Probably not...I don't think that started happening on a regular basis until much, much later on.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: LarryC on December 04, 2020, 06:26:33 PM
Are we sure it's fur coats that's keeping Pluto from showing episodes pre-1982?  Could it be something else, like licensing issues?  Video transfer difficulties?  The constant use of the "Family Feud" music? 

Was really hoping to see the '70s episodes again, especially for the Jay Wolpert-produced showcase skits.

Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 06:35:26 PM
Are we sure it's fur coats that's keeping Pluto from showing episodes pre-1982?  Could it be something else, like licensing issues?  Video transfer difficulties?  The constant use of the "Family Feud" music? 

Considering the Feud music has popped up already a few times and still was used at least a little while after this too, I doubt that is why.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: supersaver87 on December 04, 2020, 06:45:46 PM
Are we sure it's fur coats that's keeping Pluto from showing episodes pre-1982?

We are absolutely sure. They've said it quite a few times, including the below Tweet:
https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1333487971308367874

You never know though, that situation may change someday. :)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: blozier2006 on December 04, 2020, 07:43:20 PM
I saw that yesterday and wondered if it'd show up with the Win Tag or not, when did that get brought in? Late 80's?
Per the Timeline, somewhere between 10/30/86 and 3/1/88.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 07:46:38 PM
Per the Timeline, somewhere between 10/30/86 and 3/1/88.

That's quite a wide range. I imagine that will be much easier to narrow down as the channel goes further into the run.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on December 04, 2020, 07:53:41 PM
That's quite a wide range. I imagine that will be much easier to narrow down as the channel goes further into the run.

GSN never aired anything later than February ‘84 apparently, so anything after that hasn’t been seen by anyone since the Reagan administration, except for whatever home recordings from that era managed to survive.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: jlgarfield on December 04, 2020, 08:24:16 PM
^ They aired most of the 1991-92 season.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on December 04, 2020, 08:28:56 PM
^ They aired most of the 1991-92 season.

I stand corrected
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SamTheSham on December 04, 2020, 08:30:27 PM
Seriously, who is the blonde in seat 5 waving hello in almost all if not ALL of the episodes aired.  Anyone else notice?

I asked this same question a few pages back.  Looks like she was in the same seat for multiple shows, some on the same tape days.

Maybe Barker’s new lady friend at the time?

Speaking of such things, knowing Dorothy Jo had passed by this time, it’s interesting to see how friendly Diane is getting with Barker, especially during the credits!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 08:43:37 PM
Speaking of such things, knowing Dorothy Jo had passed by this time, it’s interesting to see how friendly Diane is getting with Barker, especially during the credits!

Was she that way even before?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 08:44:48 PM
I stand corrected

Also aired at least some of the 86-87 season via Win TV in the early afternoons too (same place 91-92 aired). That was addressed earlier here actually, both of them were.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: RedWing512 on December 04, 2020, 08:45:17 PM
I found it interesting that in #4621D’s playing of Temptation, Bob did the same “This is a X” schtick that Drew does today with 5 Price Tags.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 08:47:42 PM
As one random note for the FAQ, should be noted the Thursday show aired today, featured Johnny's 43rd wedding anniversary mentioned by Bob prior to I think the 5th or 6th IUFB, not sure which now. Thought that was a cool little spotlight moment for Johnny, ala what Rod got later. Was his wife in audience I wonder? I noticed he looked out there when he was speaking about the marriage, but not sure if he was just hamming it up or not. I suppose Bob woulda spotlighted her too if so, so probably was the latter.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: thepriceis_J on December 04, 2020, 09:29:36 PM
So all those rumors for years about music licensing and Barker's Beauties keeping old shows from airing were false?
I don't think they were false more so that they might have been worked out over time. Licensing issues and cross-ownership kept Classic Concentration, Narz Concentration, and MGHS out of reruns presumably, but they were able to make those work and put them back on the air. I could see the same various things that we've heard that kept Price off the air, from CBS exclusivity to Bob's control to music, finally being resolved.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: PimpinJC on December 04, 2020, 09:46:49 PM
Random thought, but has the first week of Season 11 not aired because the set is decorated / announced it’s “Season 11 premiere week”?  May confuse folks tuning in thinking why are they starting with Season 11 instead of 1.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 09:47:33 PM
Did anyone catch Bob referring to a little "brawl" backstage between Janice and Dian ahead of 1 Right Price on the show replaying right now (4622D)? That was rather interesting to say the least.....I wonder how serious or not that was given what is known about their issues today.....
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 09:50:05 PM
Random thought, but has the first week of Season 11 not aired because the set is decorated / announced it’s “Season 11 premiere week”?  May confuse folks tuning in thinking why are they starting with Season 11 instead of 1.

You know I hadn't thought of that, you could be right. But then again, they already said socially they were gonna start with Season 11 ahead of the launch, and stated why, so that doesn't really make sense in that context. Who knows though. Maybe it will turn up when they restarted the run from the beginning in a few years time, or maybe sooner, depends on them.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 09:54:13 PM
Watching that 2nd SCSD a second ago with the double spinoff, I think it'd be interesting to track as they go through the run or the last 25 years of it anyway, just how many double and triple ties there are. That I believe is the first to air thus far correct? Or did I miss one?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: LarryC on December 04, 2020, 10:04:01 PM
We are absolutely sure. They've said it quite a few times, including the below Tweet:
https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1333487971308367874

You never know though, that situation may change someday. :)

Thanks for the info.  The wording of that tweet kind of makes it sound like Pluto has control of these reruns ("we're supporting Bob's advocacy of animal rights") rather than Barker telling them what they can/can't show.

Makes sense, since an episode I watched yesterday had Barker (during a Trader Bob playing) giving a (very innocent) friendly kiss on the cheek to Janice, then Holly (!), then Dian.  It was bittersweet to watch THAT, knowing what would eventually happen among those four folks.  Glad Pluto aired the episode.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mrbrown2195 on December 04, 2020, 10:07:28 PM
I’m watching an episode right now, during the 9pm central time slot, where the camera work in the episode, especially the opening, was just god awful. I remember some discussion years ago about a cameraman strike that occurred, maybe in the early or mid-80s, and they called in staffers to run the cameras during that time period... does anybody know what I’m referring to or why this particular episode was so poorly shot? :lol:
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: PimpinJC on December 04, 2020, 10:07:55 PM
You know I hadn't thought of that, you could be right. But then again, they already said socially they were gonna start with Season 11 ahead of the launch, and stated why, so that doesn't really make sense in that context. Who knows though. Maybe it will turn up when they restarted the run from the beginning in a few years time, or maybe sooner, depends on them.
True.  I was thinking more so of it being tied to a specific date.  Other than the fact the shows look “obviously from the 80s”, I doubt anyone outside this site would know the exact date much less the year (even cars aren’t being announced with the year).

Do we also know for sure furs weren’t offered on season premiere week?  I know the show sometimes taped season premieres before going on summer break.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 10:15:50 PM
Makes sense, since an episode I watched yesterday had Barker (during a Trader Bob playing) giving a (very innocent) friendly kiss on the cheek to Janice, then Holly (!), then Dian.  It was bittersweet to watch THAT, knowing what would eventually happen among those four folks.  Glad Pluto aired the episode.

Oh that's really interesting.....that may explain Bob's comment just then/the incident, whatever happened. It is also I agree somewhat bittersweet watching some of this, knowing what came later, but still lots of fun to watch and glad this part of history is finally being seen again after nearly 21 years, it deserves to be.

Also....three things. First, seeing the Range Game playing referred to earlier.....I DEFINITELY think it was a case of switched out prizes. The way Bob speaks to it hopefully going up...the Pinochle Table comment, him saying it was going up when the game began and saying the contestant playing it knew all the rules already after he said them, let alone the program being edited, it had to be, couldn't be anything else.

Second, Johnny on this episode actually didn't say And before calling down the 4th contestant of the First Four, weird to hear him leave that out as polished as he almost always was in everything he did.

Third and last....interesting to see a 0 and 5 used in same set of numbers for Prize #2 in Ten Chances, it having been established that a price could end with a 5 on the first one. Made the game just a little harder than usual.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 10:20:47 PM
Do we also know for sure furs weren’t offered on season premiere week?  I know the show sometimes taped season premieres before going on summer break.

I assume not, it was not stated by the channel that they contained any when asked about these shows and they had taped some shows before the break too that aired already, at least one (the one where Bob references his Emmy win and it being the last show before break). So I wouldn't think this was the case/is the reason, but suppose I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: temptation1979ga on December 04, 2020, 10:27:35 PM
I asked this same question a few pages back.  Looks like she was in the same seat for multiple shows, some on the same tape days.

Maybe Barker’s new lady friend at the time?

Speaking of such things, knowing Dorothy Jo had passed by this time, it’s interesting to see how friendly Diane is getting with Barker, especially during the credits!

I always thought she was a Price employee, kind of like a contestant coordinator or something of that nature. If I am not completely out of my mind, I want to say I have seen Bob call attention to her at some point. She is visible in that same seat from around 1980 to about 1983.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: garffreak on December 04, 2020, 10:29:39 PM
Hope this works - Me as a 9-month-old watching Bob and the old Pick A Pair prop:
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Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 04, 2020, 10:34:24 PM
I always thought she was a Price employee, kind of like a contestant coordinator or something of that nature. If I am not completely out of my mind, I want to say I have seen Bob call attention to her at some point. She is visible in that same seat from around 1980 to about 1983.

Was she the one with the kid shouted out by Johnny in a couple opens ("Here It Comes Marky!" I believe he said)? That would make sense.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 05, 2020, 01:44:15 AM
Also aired at least some of the 86-87 season via Win TV in the early afternoons too (same place 91-92 aired). That was addressed earlier here actually, both of them were.

And in addition, at least a couple episodes after February 1984 and before 1991.  That includes 1989-1990 & at least one episode between April 1984 & December 1985.  Not sure which episode exactly from the mid 80s, but it was a WinTV episode that featured Balance Game; the 89-90 was actually the Season 18 premiere, also a WinTV episode
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 05, 2020, 01:53:17 AM
And in addition, at least a couple episodes after February 1984 and before 1991.  That includes 1989-1990 & at least one episode between April 1984 & December 1985.  Not sure which episode exactly from the mid 80s, but it was a WinTV episode that featured Balance Game; the 89-90 was actually the Season 18 premiere, also a WinTV episode

Did the episode from mid 80's feature Johnny? I'd assume so, that'd put it at November 85 at latest. And interesting they aired a few randoms like this....kinda strange, wonder why the one-offs?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: COINBOYNYC on December 05, 2020, 05:10:32 AM
Random thought, but has the first week of Season 11 not aired because the set is decorated / announced it’s “Season 11 premiere week”?  May confuse folks tuning in thinking why are they starting with Season 11 instead of 1.

Just before the first item up for bid on the episode airing right now (5.00am EST Saturday morning), Bob says something to the effect of 'Did you know this is our eleventh season?'
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 05, 2020, 05:47:29 AM
I always thought she was a Price employee, kind of like a contestant coordinator or something of that nature. If I am not completely out of my mind, I want to say I have seen Bob call attention to her at some point. She is visible in that same seat from around 1980 to about 1983.

Thank you sir
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 05, 2020, 06:16:15 AM
Okay, they are back to 4581D to start off the weekend repeats, remains unclear if they're going to pick and choose the best of the week, or go in order (and whether if they'll do 6 and repeat them 4 times each day like the weekday schedule). We'll see...
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: JT on December 05, 2020, 07:50:12 AM
I always thought she was a Price employee, kind of like a contestant coordinator or something of that nature. If I am not completely out of my mind, I want to say I have seen Bob call attention to her at some point. She is visible in that same seat from around 1980 to about 1983.
I can't recall her name right now ( I would have to look at the credits) but she was definitely part of the staff.  Her job I think was to tell the contestants to sit down after every one bid and she had to make sure the contestants stood at their correct podiums prior to the next one bid.  Pretty cool job right? - getting a front row seat during some of the show's best years!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: JT on December 05, 2020, 07:54:31 AM
Did anyone catch Bob referring to a little "brawl" backstage between Janice and Dian ahead of 1 Right Price on the show replaying right now (4622D)? That was rather interesting to say the least.....I wonder how serious or not that was given what is known about their issues today.....
It was innocent fun.  You could tell everyone got along from their body language and how they would chit chat at the end of the show.  The Janice-Dian feud didn't start till around 1986 and the issues with Bob didn't start until he became Exec Producer in 1988/89.  The shows we are watching now are more golden than Golden Road; they display a harmonious cast that had a great working relationship. 
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Briguy on December 05, 2020, 08:44:04 AM
It was innocent fun.  You could tell everyone got along from their body language and how they would chit chat at the end of the show.  The Janice-Dian feud didn't start till around 1986 and the issues with Bob didn't start until he became Exec Producer in 1988/89.  The shows we are watching now are more golden than Golden Road; they display a harmonious cast that had a great working relationship.

For me, of the classic Barker era shows, the 1982-1987 era is the best for the reasons you state ... great harmony and a desire to put out a product viewers would enjoy watching everyday.

IMO that’s happening today and enjoy Drew-era shows just as much, but what were re-living on Pluto TV is of a bygone era. Enjoy!

Brian
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: nickdreyer10820 on December 05, 2020, 09:53:36 AM
I can't recall her name right now ( I would have to look at the credits) but she was definitely part of the staff.  Her job I think was to tell the contestants to sit down after every one bid and she had to make sure the contestants stood at their correct podiums prior to the next one bid.  Pretty cool job right? - getting a front row seat during some of the show's best years!

That’s Gina Edwards Nyman. I asked Roger Dobkowitz about her... She always sat next to the Green chair that had “RIGHT” written on it... and she always waved to the camera, she had brown hair then. She’s still with the show. The only others from the BARKER era that are still working with the show are Stan Blits
And Adam Sandler
With the show
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TVC on December 05, 2020, 10:14:29 AM
Was she the one with the kid shouted out by Johnny in a couple opens ("Here It Comes Marky!" I believe he said)? That would make sense.
That is the spouse of director Marc Breslow, Patti, and their child.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: rj2345 on December 05, 2020, 11:25:56 AM
Thanks for the info.  The wording of that tweet kind of makes it sound like Pluto has control of these reruns ("we're supporting Bob's advocacy of animal rights") rather than Barker telling them what they can/can't show.



Plus, it is likely easier for them to start with Episodes they know for certain don't have furs, than going back through 10 years of tapes to hunt for episodes. Remember, it took GSN at least 2 years to go through their tapes to pull out the episodes that didn't have furs.

In regards to Premiere week not airing, does anyone know if they were any appearances by celebrities during that week? If so, it may have been a clearance issues.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 05, 2020, 01:21:20 PM
Pricefan18 I believe it was Johnny, but it very well could've been Gene.  Much like Walk Of Fame, every playing of Balance Game had Mr. Olson announcing except for the game's final.  It's been over 2 decades but I believe there were a handful of shows that had Gene Wood announcing.  FWIW, WinTV's comments pretty much said this game sucks & a head-scratcher.

As mentioned, the line up that was most familiar, especially in 1999 was mid-70s (1976-1977), then 1979, 1982, 1986, and 1991 Monday thru Friday.  Every-so-often GSN would change it up.  For instance, early in 1999 (and in 2000) the Wednesday episode was from Season 15 taped either June 9 or June 10 in 1986.   Earlier that week, the Monday & Tuesday shows were swapped, with Friday holding with an early 1992 show.  3 months later, on 04/01/1999, the Thursday episode, where the focus was on Season 15 more often than not, had a Season 9 episode.  To be specific, the 1981 April Fools show.

I saw somewhere that GSN aired TPIR episodes that aired in late 1992 and early 1996.  Maybe the former is accurate, but I haven't seen anything Price-related that aired on GSN beyond most of Season 20 (as in episodes before the set change).

GSN has been known to go off-script just because.  For good reason too, including putting on an holiday episode (Christmas, Halloween, and April Fool's as mentioned)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: blozier2006 on December 05, 2020, 02:16:48 PM
GSN has been known to go off-script just because.  For good reason too, including putting on an holiday episode (Christmas, Halloween, and April Fool's as mentioned)
Also to go with this, can't recall the occasion, but I've heard they've also run all six of the 1986 primetime specials.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on December 05, 2020, 03:19:43 PM
I never realized how popular trash compactors, air purifiers and ceiling fans were in the early 80s.  Pretty much every episode I’ve popped into this week has featured one of each. 😂

Also, I wasn’t aware just how long Stan Blits has been with the show until I saw his name pop up in the credits.  Four decades+ is quite a legacy!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: tpiradam on December 05, 2020, 07:36:28 PM
Also, I wasn’t aware just how long Stan Blits has been with the show until I saw his name pop up in the credits.  Four decades+ is quite a legacy!

And he doesn't even look old enough to be working that long either! I personally am enjoying this so far. Even though some are repeats of what I've already seen it still feels very fresh. I'm looking forward to the channel expanding their catalogue as time goes by.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Trevor Tuominen on December 05, 2020, 09:12:02 PM
I’m watching it on my Chromebook, and since Pluto TV is supported on Samsung TVs, I downloaded it on my TV too. I don’t think I have ever been as excited for more Barker reruns as I am right now, and I never even got to see Barker reruns on GSN as I was born after GSN pulled them off the schedule. Drew is good, but Bob will forever be a legend, and no one can truly replace legends. His run is why Price is an American institution. Here’s hoping we go to 2007.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: JayC on December 05, 2020, 09:40:29 PM
I never realized how popular trash compactors, air purifiers and ceiling fans were in the early 80s.  Pretty much every episode I’ve popped into this week has featured one of each. 😂
Ceiling fans were regularly offered on Price into Bob's final seasons. They were one of the things that stopped being offered after Mike Richards became the EP.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: tpirguyMN on December 05, 2020, 10:29:12 PM
Here’s hoping we go to 2007.

I am hoping so, too!  Doing some quick math, if Pluto keeps up with the six new episodes every weekday, do not skip any weekdays for any reason, and air every daytime episode, then we'll get to Bob's last show on October 25, 2023.

Set a reminder in your calendar!!  :-P

(Someone feel free to check my math!  I might add this question to my students' math test soon; they always ask, "When are we ever going to use math?" :lol:)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 05, 2020, 10:33:21 PM
I am hoping so, too!  Doing some quick math, if Pluto keeps up with the six new episodes every weekday, do not skip any weekdays for any reason, and air every daytime episode, then we'll get to Bob's last show on October 25, 2023.

Set a reminder in your calendar!!  :-P

Speaking of.....what all have they reaired today since the 1st episode?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: COINBOYNYC on December 06, 2020, 12:04:40 AM
Is there any reason why Pluto doesn't include the original airdates in their online listings?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 06, 2020, 06:02:55 AM
Speaking of.....what all have they reaired today since the 1st episode?

4581D-4602D for the Saturday reairings. Sunday they should reair 4603D-4624D.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: shell_game on December 06, 2020, 11:11:58 AM
I'm loving the Pluto channel. But honestly it's coming at a cost. I don't have a lot of time to devote to TV these days, and I am actively choosing the Bob shows over the new shows with Drew that are being recorded to my DVR. I haven't missed a new show in 14 years until now (with the exception of power outages and stuff like that).  I have to wonder how many are doing the same.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 06, 2020, 11:25:33 AM
4581D-4602D for the Saturday reairings. Sunday they should reair 4603D-4624D.

So they are reairing all 24 then this weekend? I was assuming they were only airing 6 each day from what they posted on their YT channel, unless they changed their mind.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 06, 2020, 11:35:34 AM
I'm loving the Pluto channel. But honestly it's coming at a cost. I don't have a lot of time to devote to TV these days, and I am actively choosing the Bob shows over the new shows with Drew that are being recorded to my DVR. I haven't missed a new show in 14 years until now (with the exception of power outages and stuff like that).  I have to wonder how many are doing the same.

Depends on when they are viewing them, with the 6 hour blocks. Plus there's also the fact the show is online at night now too. So they can watch it back later if they wish, should they not watch it at 11am (or 10am elsewhere I suppose). I will say given the show this year looks VASTLY different due to Covid probably doesn't do them any favors though, but that'd be the only reason I could see for people choosing the old ones strictly for the most part over that.

The one thing I will say though time wise, is I have found trying to catch all 6 hours each day (or on Day 1, 9) has been rough. I may experiment with some workarounds beginning next week to make it less daunting, be it by watching some on weekends (assuming they are running them all/will continue to as it appears), recording/screen capturing blocks and then watching them back on my own time later deleting or otherwise backing up as I went to save space when needed, or if I had no choice just skipping some altogether much as I'd not want to. It is a lot, even broken up through the day and a proper balance is needed here I think.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 06, 2020, 11:38:34 AM
Is there any reason why Pluto doesn't include the original airdates in their online listings?

Not sure.  Fortunately we have the calendar to best be able to tell what's airing or what's about to air.  Until Pluto puts the airdates on their schedule if they ever do
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 06, 2020, 12:03:37 PM
So they are reairing all 24 then this weekend? I was assuming they were only airing 6 each day from what they posted on their YT channel, unless they changed their mind.


They're currently on the airdate of 10/07/1982.  So it looks like they'll wrap with the first week of episodes by 7:00.  Not sure how they'll proceed on Monday, given that they started on Tuesday of next week
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 06, 2020, 12:56:20 PM

They're currently on the airdate of 10/07/1982.  So it looks like they'll wrap with the first week of episodes by 7:00.  Not sure how they'll proceed on Monday, given that they started on Tuesday of next week

You know, given there's only 24 they ran this week vs. 30 as I'd assume they'll be be running from Monday, them airing all of them this weekend actually makes sense. I say that because 12 episodes a day fit neatly into 2 6 hour blocks, meaning they could have/are running them twice over the day, and finish the last one for the week right at the point of a refresh for next. I'd bet next weekend may see a few cut for this reason since that 12 would have to be upped to 15, unless they adapt a Tuesday-Friday schedule permanently.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Teddy on December 06, 2020, 01:06:05 PM
And sometime this week, we'll see the episode where Bill Cullen made his only appearance on TPIR. To see a former and current host appear together is always an exciting thing to see, even if Cullen's show was nothing like Barker's, except for the One-Bid round that was used as a secondary bidding game.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 06, 2020, 06:00:02 PM
You know, given there's only 24 they ran this week vs. 30 as I'd assume they'll be be running from Monday, them airing all of them this weekend actually makes sense. I say that because 12 episodes a day fit neatly into 2 6 hour blocks, meaning they could have/are running them twice over the day, and finish the last one for the week right at the point of a refresh for next. I'd bet next weekend may see a few cut for this reason since that 12 would have to be upped to 15, unless they adapt a Tuesday-Friday schedule permanently.

What might happen is that Pluto airs everything as normal, starting on Monday.  But on Friday, they start their rerun schedule at 6:00 EST.  In other words, they air the first six shows for the week on Friday, then the last 24 on Saturday.  Then re-air the first 24 shows for the week on Sunday, and then wrap everything up on Monday from midnight to 6 AM before starting a new week of shows
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 06, 2020, 06:08:00 PM
What might happen is that Pluto airs everything as normal, starting on Monday.  But on Friday, they start their rerun schedule at 6:00 EST.  In other words, they air the first six shows for the week on Friday, then the last 24 on Saturday.  Then re-air the first 24 shows for the week on Sunday, and then wrap everything up on Monday from midnight to 6 AM before starting a new week of shows

That's actually pretty smart. I could see that...although I am wondering here, did you mean 6PM or AM Friday? If AM...then you'd still only have 24 shows vs. 30. Otherwise that's pretty solid.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 06, 2020, 06:45:48 PM
That's actually pretty smart. I could see that...although I am wondering here, did you mean 6PM or AM Friday? If AM...then you'd still only have 24 shows vs. 30. Otherwise that's pretty solid.


6 PM for Friday.  Then the reruns ending 6 AM on Monday.  I didn't mention that if Pluto went with 6 new episodes daily, they would only rerun them twice on Mondays & Fridays (3 runs total) and then three times on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursday (4 runs total)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: MSTieScott on December 06, 2020, 09:44:05 PM
I finally got a chance to sit down with the channel for a few hours this afternoon. By happenstance, the "backgammon table" episode came up.

The only hole in my conspiracy theory here is...why would the rangefinder not moving necessitate a prize change? Unless the price got revealed for some reason, they could just replay for the original prize once they got the rangefinder moving again.

I wouldn't be surprised if, while they were pressing buttons and/or unplugging and plugging Range Game in to try to get it to work, the light behind the actual price accidentally turned on. And obviously, if they accidentally revealed the answer, they'd have to replace the prize. (Barker didn't yet have the power to declare "You automatically win!")

I agree that Bob's comments during Range Game imply that something malfunctioned the first time around. My computer froze near the end of the fourth game and I didn't get it restarted until the grocery descriptions in the fifth game, so I missed the backgammon table and Bob's comments there, but based on what you said, my money is on an accidental reveal necessitating a prize swap.

(Another bit of a hint: Later in the episode, while Bob was chatting with a contestant, he made an offhand comment along the lines of "Nothing's been going easy around here" and got a knowing laugh from Johnny.)

What was the price of the backgammon table? The living room was $2,200, so I wonder whether the table was a similar price so they wouldn't have to change the numbers on the scale itself (I didn't think to look at the board before the living room was revealed). It looked a little weird to have a living room in act one and a dining room in act three, but Bonus Game's dining room was more than $2,900.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 06, 2020, 10:20:06 PM
^The backgammon table packaage on 4623D had an ARP of $2,947, so they would have had to change the range. I don't know if that's enough to hurt your theory though.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Thatgameshowguy on December 07, 2020, 12:23:42 AM
After watching this episode over again (now three times with the weekend rerun) there's definitely something screwy with Range Game. Having the rangefinder be all screwy the last few playings helps the theory as well. The "accidentally revealed price" theory gets my vote on the most likely, although only someone who was there would know for sure.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 07, 2020, 07:01:31 AM
So much for the 6am reset 😢
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 07, 2020, 07:45:32 AM
That sucks.


I guess time will tell if a new batch of episodes starts at 6 PM.  I wasn't able to check to see what aired during Sunday Night Football, and I don't know if I'll be able to tune into anything until around 4:00 today.  I'm not sure what's currently airing on Pluto, but I guess they started over and planned on airing the 24 episodes one more time.  It will be concerning if there's nothing new after today
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on December 07, 2020, 08:08:21 AM
This comment thread (https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=OI-IhC90c8E) I found on their official YouTube channel should help clarify the schedule a bit.  All answers are from the channel itself:

Q: I have a question I noticed you are repeating some episodes when are we going to get some more episodes thank you and keep up the great work

A: there are six new episodes premiering each day on the PlutoTV channel. There are repeats on the weekends. We had to think about the rollout plan since PlutoTV is more like a linear channel and not video on demand. The aim is to roll out the fresh episodes at consistent pace and not just dump them all at once so they get lost or missed.

Q: How much will you be repeating on weekends? Just some or all?

A: Just some. Think of it like a "best of" the week. There are 30 new episodes over the course of the five-day week. So we pick from those to program the weekend. So if you miss some on the weekdays, the weekends are a good time to catch up!

Q: Am I to assume it'd be the same cycle on weekends? Ie: 6 episodes repeated 4 times? Also...are there plans to air the Season 11 premiere week at any point? I saw someone suggest it could be saved for around New Year's. Is there any truth to that? If not and you don't plan to air it....why was it skipped over?

A: The programming is still 6 episode blocks run 4 times a day, similar to how they ran throughout the week. But the episodes are a mix of those blocks from the previous 5 weekdays. We will have to look into the Season 11 premiere episode and see if / where that is in the programming schedule.

Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 12:00:33 PM
That sucks.


I guess time will tell if a new batch of episodes starts at 6 PM.  I wasn't able to check to see what aired during Sunday Night Football, and I don't know if I'll be able to tune into anything until around 4:00 today.  I'm not sure what's currently airing on Pluto, but I guess they started over and planned on airing the 24 episodes one more time.  It will be concerning if there's nothing new after today

I bet they are going Tuesday-Friday new like I speculated on before. Which would make the last tweet fairly obsolete as to their replies.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 07, 2020, 12:13:06 PM
Actually no they just started the new batch of episodes beginning with 4625D at noon. So if they do the 6-hour schedule they should reach 4635D before resetting back to 4625D.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 12:17:54 PM
Actually no they just started the new batch of episodes beginning with 4625D at noon. So if they do the 6-hour schedule they should reach 4635D before resetting back to 4625D.

Interesting they began it at noon.....wonder why.
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Post by: mellongraig on December 07, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
Interesting they began it at noon.....wonder why.

My guess is that they don't want to lose viewers of the current show to allow fresh new episodes to start at noon Eastern Time.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 12:48:33 PM
My guess is that they don't want to lose viewers of the current show to allow fresh new episodes to start at noon Eastern Time.

So would that mean they might do 3 batches only then from here? That'd be interesting if true.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 07, 2020, 12:55:18 PM
My guess is that they don't want to lose viewers of the current show to allow fresh new episodes to start at noon Eastern Time.

That makes sense for the most part.  I don't know for sure what they're doing on the West Coast, but I'd imagine they would start at noon Eastern & Pacific.  Otherwise a 12 noon / 9 AM PST start might cause a conflict with the second of six new episodes (as in new batch of Season 11).

So would that mean they might do 3 batches only then from here? That'd be interesting if true.


It should still be 4.  Two runs today, then twice tomorrow from Midnight to Noon
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 12:56:17 PM
It should still be 4.  Two runs today, then twice tomorrow from Midnight to Noon

Oh yeah, duh......I suppose I shoulda known that lol. Thanks for correcting me.  :-)
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 07, 2020, 01:05:13 PM
Oh yeah, duh......I suppose I shoulda known that lol. Thanks for correcting me.  :-)

No problem; no big deal! ;)


And thanks to Mr. Weatherman for the source/link of what to expect as it relates to how TPIR will air going forward!
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Post by: mellongraig on December 07, 2020, 05:14:26 PM
Looks like they (for now) skipped 4633D, I'm not sure why given that GSN did air that episode in the past...

But at least we're coming to the end of the original Barker Wall design (along with the color changes once the set had its major overhaul in 1975).

Also for 4641D, a year and a half? I wonder if that was the longest time the range finder jokingly could not be started again, and if not I wonder what was the longest?
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 07, 2020, 05:36:23 PM
Looks like they (for now) skipped 4633D, I'm not sure why given that GSN did air that episode in the past...

It has?  Do you happen to have the lineup?
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 05:44:43 PM
EDIT: Nevermind this....4633 was earlier, so if it was tape date order they were going in, probably woulda aired by now.
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Post by: Mr. Weatherman on December 07, 2020, 06:18:14 PM
And thanks to Mr. Weatherman for the source/link of what to expect as it relates to how TPIR will air going forward!

Knowing what we now know from this, we can probably make some educated guesses on when certain episodes will air (Johnny’s final show/Rod officially taking over, Bob’s hair going gray, the infamous 3 Strikes Toni playing, etc.).  Provided they skip few or no episodes and keep any special lineups to a minimum around the holidays, we can probably nail down much of the schedule within a few days of certainty for at least the next handful of seasons, perhaps all the way through to Season 35, if someone wants to take up such a project. 🤔

EDIT: I can’t complain about free, but I would be willing to pay a $10-$20 subscription fee for DVR functionality and full frame rate.  I’d watch a LOT more Pluto TV as a result!
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 06:28:32 PM
Knowing what we now know from this, we can probably make some educated guesses on when certain episodes will air (Johnny’s final show/Rod officially taking over, Bob’s hair going gray, the infamous 3 Strikes Toni playing, etc.).  Provided they skip few or no episodes and keep any special lineups to a minimum around the holidays, we can probably nail down much of the schedule within a few days of certainty for at least the next handful of seasons, perhaps all the way through to Season 35, if someone wants to take up such a project. 🤔

EDIT: I can’t complain about free, but I would be willing to pay a $10-$20 subscription fee for DVR functionality and full frame rate.  I’d watch a LOT more Pluto TV as a result!

Someone mentioned earlier the exact date barring skips Barker's finale in Season 35, was like June 2023 if I recall. I'm most looking forward to the $21,000 Plinko win in 1990. I thought about that just the other day. That'll be a huge episode to see when it airs.

Sidenote: I see 4 digit Clock Game made an appearance on first episode to air/reair now today. Won too at that.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 07, 2020, 06:36:32 PM
I would love to do a schedule for the expected line-up for future episodes slated to air on Pluto!

As mentioned, it depends on what episodes are skipped before a likely "Series Finale" airdate in June of 2023.

Speaking of which, it would figure that Pluto would skip the only episode where the line-up is unknown.  We'll see if 4643 gets skipped on Tuesday or not.  I can't complain; back-to-back episodes of Shell Game! 

Not really, just todays final episode of the day before the first episode of the day, both of which featured that game in Act 1
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Post by: Wayoshi on December 07, 2020, 06:56:39 PM
I guess 4633D tape might be too damaged to air? That's too bad.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 07:15:54 PM
I guess 4633D tape might be too damaged to air? That's too bad.

Only they'd know, guess time will tell. I still wonder if the premiere week suffered same problem or not.
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Post by: supersaver87 on December 07, 2020, 07:28:03 PM
It has?  Do you happen to have the lineup?

Super Ball, 1 Right Price, Money Game, Barker's Bargain Bar, Any Number, Pick-A-Pair

Oct. 20, 1982 did indeed air on GSN, and it's in at least two traders' collections. Ths is the order both collections list the games in.
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 07, 2020, 07:58:30 PM
Oct. 20, 1982 did indeed air on GSN, and it's in at least two traders' collections. Ths is the order both collections list the games in.

Huh.  Anyone have any idea why it might have been skipped, then?  I'd assume either tape damage, a stray fur, or some kind of music licensing issues, but it's certainly possible they just made a mistake.
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Post by: Spmahn on December 07, 2020, 08:26:22 PM
Huh.  Anyone have any idea why it might have been skipped, then?  I'd assume either tape damage, a stray fur, or some kind of music licensing issues, but it's certainly possible they just made a mistake.

Considering they straight up left in a clip from Hot Stuff by Donna Summer during a Jukebox prize on a Showcase today, it’s probably safe to assume that any and all music problems are a complete non issue with these.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 08:29:13 PM
Considering they straight up left in a clip from Hot Stuff by Donna Summer during a Jukebox prize on a Showcase today, it’s probably safe to assume that any and all music problems are a complete non issue with these.

Wonder if that means the 20th anniversary week when they hit that, airs fully unedited for 1st time (GSN did edit them didn't they? I recall they did?), since it had Madonna playing over the credits for a few of those shows anyway.
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Post by: CaseyBuck on December 07, 2020, 08:45:50 PM
Yeah, there doesn't seem to be any issues with music clearances (yet). I was even worried for a little bit that they weren't going to feature Hurdles, Safe Crackers, Race Game, or Switcheroo, since they all used copyrighted music.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 07, 2020, 08:47:21 PM
Wonder if that means the 20th anniversary week when they hit that, airs fully unedited for 1st time (GSN did edit them didn't they? I recall they did?), since it had Madonna playing over the credits for a few of those shows anyway.


If I recall correctly, when GSN ran the 20th anniversary shows in 1999, the Madonna music was still on there.  Maybe not; it could have been Kool & The Gang; it's been over 21 years, but the Friday WinTV show I watched did not have the Price is Right theme playing during the credit roll
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 07, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
I've told this story many times and I'm still hoping to see this come up on YouTube, but I'll re-tell it.

It's 1982 and Lucky 7 is being played for a Jeep Renegade, a fairly nice vehicle and more expensive than most cars seen on the show. But, they haven't started playing Lucky 7 (or many other games, for that matter) for 5-digit cars yet. As Bob finished explaining the game, the contestant seems not to completely understand, and the dialogue between him and Bob goes something like this:

Contestant- "Oh, I guess it costs about...$11,000."
Bob- "OK...well, then what do you think the first number in the price is?"
Contestant- "A one!"
Bob- (looks at studio audience and then into the cameras) "I hate this. I hate to do this to him, but now I have to show him. He says one. What's the first number?"

The first number is revealed to be a nine. The contestant has lost on the first guess, for the first time ever...something I'm sure Bob made a point of mentioning just then.


This playing is about to air on Pluto (10pm EST), so you can see for yourself.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 10:12:39 PM
This playing is about to air on Pluto (10pm EST), so you can see for yourself.

Well that was certainly interesting.....I see more why Bob didn't try to correct him as to it being a 4 digit price or 5, given he said "I"d say about $12,000", when asked for the first number. I assume he tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. But yeah that was something.....sorta was foreshadowed by the guy saying he was nervous before the reveal of the car, when asked why he had stood in Contestant's Row for a moment after winning the One-Bid.
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Post by: jlgarfield on December 07, 2020, 10:14:29 PM
Whoops- this moment was already mentioned! XD
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Post by: PimpinJC on December 07, 2020, 10:19:01 PM
I’m really surprised Bob didn’t stop him when he said “oh, about $12,000” and remind him that it was only 4 digits, seeing as how in the very next segment he didn’t want a contestant to bid $601 after they tried going with a repeat bid.  He must’ve been through with that contestant and let him dig his own grave.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 10:22:06 PM
I’m really surprised Bob didn’t stop him when he said “oh, about $12,000” and remind him that it was only 4 digits, seeing as how in the very next segment he didn’t want a contestant to bid $601 after they tried going with a repeat bid.  He must’ve been through with that contestant and let him dig his own grave.

Yeah I really thought he may have, but given how it happened......I can sorta see why he may not have. Not the easiest call to make on the fly necessarily I don't think in either case.
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Post by: jlgarfield on December 07, 2020, 10:26:06 PM
This playing is about to air on Pluto (10pm EST), so you can see for yourself.

What's the OAD of the show?
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Post by: PimpinJC on December 07, 2020, 10:26:14 PM
Very interesting Now...and Then segment with 3 “thens” instead of the “normal” 2.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 10:32:50 PM
What's the OAD of the show?

October 22, 1982 per the Calendar.
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Post by: Wayoshi on December 07, 2020, 10:38:32 PM
Here's a direct link of the L7 moment (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783063090852921344/785710944612646942/Lucky_even_wipeout_from_4635D.mp4) (link probably won't last forever).
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Post by: JayC on December 07, 2020, 11:08:46 PM
I do somewhat think Bob should've reminded the contestant the Jeep only had four digits in the price. I remember in his later seasons Bob would more often than not stop contestants from making bad decisions like that and walk contestants through games, but I guess that wasn't the case earlier on.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 07, 2020, 11:17:43 PM
I do somewhat think Bob should've reminded the contestant the Jeep only had four digits in the price. I remember in his later seasons Bob would more often than not stop contestants from making bad decisions like that and walk contestants through games, but I guess that wasn't the case earlier on.

In the infamous Shell Game cheater incident just 4 years after this, he did that funny enough, when she tried to put a chip under the shell that she'd already revealed to have no ball under it. Different circumstance perhaps, but....still interesting to note here.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 07, 2020, 11:42:22 PM
I know that similar to Any Number, Lucky Seven usually has a ding instead of a buzzer sound effect for a loss, but I guess that a buzzer could've been used given the wipeout here.  I think the show used the foghorn in Season 21 when Lucky Seven was lost on the first number.  It might have been the second number for a five digit car.  I believe they used the buzzer for a piggy bank win around that time.  Just once, not all the time.

I really didn't have a problem here.  The price of the Jeep did begin with a 9 so he was doomed.  However, the show was still offering automobiles where the first digit was a 6.  To be fair, if there was a $6,000 vehicle offered, and a contestant guessed 1 as the first digit, he or she would still be in the game & have a chance.  Not that Bob was obligated to stop him, but he had several reasons not to, in my opinion.

While on the subject of Lucky Seven and the "historic moment", there sure have been several cases of the last digit being a one.  I believe the contestants that have lost on the last number guessed 5 and had four dollars left, but ended up getting unlucky.  Talk about brutal times ten!  I think I might have some sympathy for another Lucky Seven contestant from the other historic moment later on this season.
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Post by: Spmahn on December 07, 2020, 11:46:37 PM
Bob seems to have a lot of leeway in guiding contestants into making more sensible decisions when they attempt to make silly ones, for whatever reason he chose not to exercise that here 🤷‍♂️
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Post by: Thatgameshowguy on December 08, 2020, 12:07:24 AM
Here's a semi more permanent link.

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Post by: pricefan18 on December 08, 2020, 02:15:29 AM
2AM rerun has Range Game played first, for I am thinking the Backgammon Table (that Bob called the Pinochle Table before) that woulda been swapped out the last time it showed up for the Dining Room Set. Did that Range start at $1900 does anyone remember? It had a price of $2200 even, so sounds right. The table here cost $2162 for record.

It'd make more sense that this woulda been wanted before vs. the $2900 table referenced earlier here that was later seen otherwise IMO. Why? They'd have to have set a whole new pricing strip for the board to replace that one, and that woulda taken too much time I think to do. They woulda probably just switched games out at that point as they did once in the early 2000's for a car if people recall, or otherwise just given the contestant the table outright.

So yeah, I think this about settles the debate here about what happened. Could always be wrong, but nothing else would make a lot of sense realistically.

Sidenote too, Secret X had a rare wipeout loss following that game. How many other times can anyone recall that happening?
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Post by: JediJones on December 08, 2020, 05:36:13 AM
Yeah, there doesn't seem to be any issues with music clearances (yet). I was even worried for a little bit that they weren't going to feature Hurdles, Safe Crackers, Race Game, or Switcheroo, since they all used copyrighted music.

Pluto was founded in part by Universal Music Group and then sold to Viacom, who owns MTV. They have tons of channels with all kinds of old TV programs. If these companies can't clear music rights, no one can. I have a feeling they worked everything out for the entire Pluto network years ago in regards to music royalties. Those music clearances may not apply over on the Buzzr network, so music may be the reason why the Barker-era TPIRs were in the vault until the Pluto deal was worked out. Besides the Pink Panther theme for Safecracker, I've heard Star Wars, Star Trek and Close Encounters of the Third Kind music used for the Showcases. If they could only use music Fremantle owned, a huge amount of these episodes would not be able to be aired as is.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 08, 2020, 05:40:00 AM
So for those keeping score with the airdates, given the seemingly skipped episode in the rotation yesterday/today, the 1st episode of the next batch should be the one with Bill Cullen's appearance in it.
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Post by: Thrasher on December 08, 2020, 06:25:57 AM
So for those keeping score with the airdates, given the seemingly skipped episode in the rotation yesterday/today, the 1st episode of the next batch should be the one with Bill Cullen's appearance in it.

We'll know in a few hours (assuming another Noon ET start for Tuesday's cycle), but it's 3am Pacific and I've just had the thought that I *could* see that episode being skipped or else the Bill cameo being edited out.  Although the Pluto channel's a CBS/Fremantle joint venture, CBS has no stake in Child's Play in 2020, nor is it something even airing on Buzzr to promote.  And the appearance *does* use footage.  Plus Bill's appearance takes up well over 4 minutes (and ad time is king).

Absolutely hope I'm wrong and beyond a couple of things I've seen on the Fremantle side with Buzzr I don't even have any reason to think I'm right (we'll see in a few hours).  But just a wayward overnight thought.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 08, 2020, 06:35:54 AM
We'll know in a few hours (assuming another Noon ET start for Tuesday's cycle), but it's 3am Pacific and I've just had the thought that I *could* see that episode being skipped or else the Bill cameo being edited out.  Although the Pluto channel's a CBS/Fremantle joint venture, CBS has no stake in Child's Play in 2020, nor is it something even airing on Buzzr to promote.  And the appearance *does* use footage.  Plus Bill's appearance takes up well over 4 minutes (and ad time is king).

Absolutely hope I'm wrong and beyond a couple of things I've seen on the Fremantle side with Buzzr I don't even have any reason to think I'm right (we'll see in a few hours).  But just a wayward overnight thought.

I thought of that too, but I don't imagine they would, I kinda doubt they'd care that much to do that. Hell they've left in most of the Bob Barker Fun & Games Show promos that GSN never showed when they had reran the shows, so I imagine this would be treated same as those. But I suppose we'll see.

As to ad time leading to a cut though specifically..I wouldn't worry about that. Those 4 minutes woulda been part of the normal show time, and outside of the ticket plug, nothing has been cut out of any shows so far, unless you wanna count breaks seeming to start early at times, but that might be a Pluto issue as much as anything, and I really doubt they'd cut such a large swath of time out mid show like this. If they air the episode, I'd expect the segment to air in full like when GSN had ran it.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 08, 2020, 07:47:09 AM
You know, every so often I wonder why Child's Play didn't make it to the 1983-1984 season (unless it did).  I think it was a good show with a legend of a host.  I don't know or think it was at the level of the $25,000 Pyramid or Tattletales but unless it lasted as long as it did due to Press Your Luck not being ready to air, I would have guessed that it would have been on CBS for another season.


Anyway, I think if this upcoming episode is addressed, I think they won't air it at all.  If they do air it a little more than 4 hours from now I think they include the entire interview with Bill Cullen.  I could see them editing out the footage somehow but it would be awkward if they edited out Bob and Bill's chat.  I think a lot of people will take issue to that, but I don't think it would be a big deal if they omitted past footage from another show.

BTW, in saying they won't air it at all, I mean that it's either just that or it's on hold indefinitely so as to edit whatever needs to be edited out of that segment
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Post by: tybuki on December 08, 2020, 11:59:49 AM
You know, every so often I wonder why Child's Play didn't make it to the 1983-1984 season (unless it did).  I think it was a good show with a legend of a host.  I don't know or think it was at the level of the $25,000 Pyramid or Tattletales but unless it lasted as long as it did due to Press Your Luck not being ready to air, I would have guessed that it would have been on CBS for another season.

Child's Play first struggled against Wheel until January '83, then was in a dead heat with $ale of the Century for a few months until it too pulled away in the ratings by Summer '83. Press Your Luck taped its pilot in May of that year and CBS announced it as Child's Play's replacement in August, going off the air on September 16th. In short, CP just never really caught on with viewers.
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Post by: Thrasher on December 08, 2020, 12:16:46 PM
I am SO happy to have been wrong.  DELIGHTED.
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Post by: mellongraig on December 08, 2020, 01:01:13 PM
Interesting that the regular buzzer went off for the showcase overbid, which didn't seem right. Then again though on the very early episodes from 1972, the foghorn didn't debut yet, so it was safe to assume that this was a mistake on whoever was running the sound effects at the time.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 08, 2020, 01:08:05 PM
Interesting that the regular buzzer went off for the showcase overbid, which didn't seem right. Then again though on the very early episodes from 1972, the foghorn didn't debut yet, so it was safe to assume that this was a mistake on whoever was running the sound effects at the time.


This happened once or twice in the 90s.  It was weird, I agree.  I think this is definitely the first episode the show worked on after a summer break for several reasons.  I guess the operator was off that day.


ETA: 4643D (10/27/1982) is indeed airing right now (1 PM hour EST 12/08).  As indicated by scorpz, the order may not be accurate.  As of the edit, Blank Check is first instead of Temptation, which might be in Act 3.  Trader Bob is in the correct slot as the second pricing game

Nope, it's 3 Strikes (knew the second Bob pointed to Door 3)
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Post by: FPGWillyT on December 08, 2020, 01:28:08 PM
I am SO happy to have been wrong.  DELIGHTED.

Me too
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Post by: vnisanian2001 on December 08, 2020, 03:22:59 PM
For some reason, they edited out Sharon Wyatt from Pluto's copy of the October 28, 1982 episode.
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Post by: Nick on December 08, 2020, 04:50:53 PM
It's nice that Pluto TV is uploading multiple clips daily (though what's up with the need to put capitalized words in the titles?  Seriously, that just comes off as annoying).  The part I am really enjoying with these is the camerawork.  The shot Breslow took of that contestant who ran past the Row up on stage with Bob talking to her with the audience lights behind him was amazing.  Today's clip of the Hole in One playing with the orange golf ball had the niftiest zoom in on the $500 flag.  Plus, I love Breslow's insistence of capturing faces in shots.  Anytime somebody's face gets blocked, he's changing the shot.  He was always in pursuit of good pictures, and while I am sure most didn't pick up on it, it really added to the energy of the proceedings.

Eh, you're violating the terms of service of PlutoTV. It's a civil breach of contract, not criminal copyright infringement.

Doesn't make it right.

Also, is there any immorality in sticking it to ViacomCBS?  :lol:

Again, doesn't make it right.  I would also add that circumvention of geofences probably hinders more the resolution of the problem of getting international clearance.  If people didn't circumvent them but chimed in en masse to ask for the content to be distributed internationally, then the powers that be would have a better representation of the demand.  It's not as if they can't make money the more eyeballs they grab in different jurisdictions, all with with locally-relevant advertising.

Not that there are that many people outside of the U.S. clamouring to see The Price Is Right on Pluto TV, but more a more hotly-desired program, I'd see it possible.
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Post by: Mr. Weatherman on December 08, 2020, 06:27:16 PM
I would also add that circumvention of geofences probably hinders more the resolution of the problem of getting international clearance.  If people didn't circumvent them but chimed in en masse to ask for the content to be distributed internationally, then the powers that be would have a better representation of the demand.  It's not as if they can't make money the more eyeballs they grab in different jurisdictions, all with with locally-relevant advertising.

Not that there are that many people outside of the U.S. clamouring to see The Price Is Right on Pluto TV, but more a more hotly-desired program, I'd see it possible.

This stance is admirable but unrealistic. No one is going to stop finding ways to back-door their way into the programming they want to see — which, per your argument, would mean no resolution will ever be found.  So...hop on a VPN and enjoy what you’re missing. :P
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Post by: Teddy on December 08, 2020, 06:36:21 PM
Interesting that the regular buzzer went off for the showcase overbid, which didn't seem right. Then again though on the very early episodes from 1972, the foghorn didn't debut yet, so it was safe to assume that this was a mistake on whoever was running the sound effects at the time.
To be fair, through the years the regular buzzer has been used for going over in Grocery Game, Check Game, Bullseye and Credit Card, as well as Card Game and Check-Out before they reverted to the foghorn later on.
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Post by: RatRace10 on December 08, 2020, 06:58:19 PM
To be fair, through the years the regular buzzer has been used for going over in Grocery Game, Check Game, Bullseye and Credit Card, as well as Card Game and Check-Out before they reverted to the foghorn later on.

Not only that, but there have been a lot of instances in these Pluto episodes of the foghorn being used in games that normally wouldn't use them in later years. I heard it used for "SORRY" reveals in Bullseye and "NO" reveals in Five Price Tags (even if it wasn't the one that decided the loss).
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 08, 2020, 07:21:22 PM
Not only that, but there have been a lot of instances in these Pluto episodes of the foghorn being used in games that normally wouldn't use them in later years. I heard it used for "SORRY" reveals in Bullseye and "NO" reveals in Five Price Tags (even if it wasn't the one that decided the loss).

Ditto.  Also, the safe staying locked in Safe Crackers triggered the foghorn.  I'm not sure when this ended, but I watched a 1990 episode and they still used it. 

In addition to that, Hole in One used it in Season 20 several times, which is somewhat of a reversal given the fact that they often didn't early on, including 4642D and at least most episodes during the very early days of the show.

To be fair, through the years the regular buzzer has been used for going over in Grocery Game, Check Game, Bullseye and Credit Card, as well as Card Game and Check-Out before they reverted to the foghorn later on.

They've actually used the foghorn in Card Game & Check-Out for simply losing outright (not going over); definitely the former was the case which IIRC happens later this season or the next
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 08, 2020, 07:59:04 PM
What was the whole "Don't show the price, don't show the price!", bit Bob kept doing throughout the episode ending now (7pm EST), with the girls? Was that an inside joke related to something that happened that we didn't see on camera, or something from an earlier episode? Does anyone have any idea? It seemed really random, and nothing happened on the previous episode that I noticed to prompt it.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: temptation1979ga on December 08, 2020, 08:29:36 PM
I’ve seen several playings of Trader Bob where the “Don”t show the price!” comment happens. I think it became kind of a running joke with Bob and the models in this game. I know of at least one playing where a price got revealed early because the models accidentally ran two of the prize podiums together and a price cover fell open. (If memory serves, the run together happened behind the game board and the price was hanging open when the model wheeled the prize on stage). I’m not sure if there was another instance of something like this happening or not.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 08, 2020, 08:34:31 PM
Yeah, "Don't show the price!" appears to be a running bit with Trader Bob...you can see it in a lot of other playings. I think it started just the way Temptation said.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 08, 2020, 08:42:05 PM
Yeah, "Don't show the price!" appears to be a running bit with Trader Bob...you can see it in a lot of other playings. I think it started just the way Temptation said.

Oh ok, that makes sense, and then in this case it obviously carried over to Temptation and Most Expensive too. Thanks for explaining.  :-)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 08, 2020, 08:47:24 PM
On the 6pm show with Bill Cullen, they added the first of the classic turntable colors on the turning panel.  I wonder why they delayed changing the whole scheme at one...it looks really bizarre and out of place.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 08, 2020, 08:53:31 PM
On the 6pm show with Bill Cullen, they added the first of the classic turntable colors on the turning panel.  I wonder why they delayed changing the whole scheme at one...it looks really bizarre and out of place.

I noticed that...I thought maybe I was seeing things, but you're right, they did change it. Maybe they didn't get the rest taken care of in time and had to go with it as was?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: PimpinJC on December 08, 2020, 09:14:22 PM
On the 6pm show with Bill Cullen, they added the first of the classic turntable colors on the turning panel.  I wonder why they delayed changing the whole scheme at one...it looks really bizarre and out of place.
Was the Barker wall changed on the same show?  The 8PM CST repeat has the new wall.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 08, 2020, 09:21:59 PM
Was the Barker wall changed on the same show?  The 8PM CST repeat has the new wall.

Yes it was
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 08, 2020, 09:57:50 PM
Yes it was

I think it was the 7pm show actually.

EDIT: I take it back, it was that one.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 08, 2020, 10:01:11 PM
I just lost my entire post
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 08, 2020, 10:34:12 PM
On the 6pm show with Bill Cullen, they added the first of the classic turntable colors on the turning panel.  I wonder why they delayed changing the whole scheme at one...it looks really bizarre and out of place.

Maybe whoever made the decision to change the set planned on changing the turning panel only, and then when it was apparent that it looked better than everything else, the rest of the turntable was changed.  I don't know for sure.

I’ve seen several playings of Trader Bob where the “Don”t show the price!” comment happens. I think it became kind of a running joke with Bob and the models in this game. I know of at least one playing where a price got revealed early because the models accidentally ran two of the prize podiums together and a price cover fell open. (If memory serves, the run together happened behind the game board and the price was hanging open when the model wheeled the prize on stage). I’m not sure if there was another instance of something like this happening or not.


After more than 40 years, today was the first time I noticed that someone could've known they were about to play Trader Bob prior to the prize reveal (a la Grand Game).  Anyway, a rare occasion of something that was overdone in my opinion.

It's been nearly 40 decades, but that Punch A Bunch feels "fresh" in my mind.  That was a pretty painful bailout.  As mentioned by Bob to Janice and company, no one was going to make it to $10,000 for the 4th punch after $5,000 from the 3rd punch.  Little did they know...

Is bailing at $500 with 2 punches to go the best move though?  $500 is good any day, no matter who you are.  I think bailing with $500 in 1982 is okay on the 2nd punch, but I don't know if it's the right call if that had occurred today (or since 1996)


Edited to apologize for the double post.  I tried to edit my previous post with a more concrete post.  Received an error message, then after four more attempts, it just vanished.  Not sure what happened.  Maybe I missed the time allotted for an edit; sorry about that!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 08, 2020, 10:48:00 PM
Is bailing at $500 with 2 punches to go the best move though?  $500 is good any day, no matter who you are.  I think bailing with $500 in 1982 is okay on the 2nd punch, but I don't know if it's the right call if that had occurred today (or since 1996)

$500 is the minimum now isn't it? No way anyone keeps that now if so. I'd say in general $500 being taken, is totally a product of its' time. In the 80's was worth something, not as much now especially after taxes.

Speaking of site issues BTW, I've noticed the inaccessibility errors have been increasing again last few days. Anybody have any idea why? It's coming up frequently.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 09, 2020, 12:43:02 AM
$500 is the minimum now isn't it? No way anyone keeps that now if so. I'd say in general $500 being taken, is totally a product of its' time. In the 80's was worth something, not as much now especially after taxes.

Speaking of site issues BTW, I've noticed the inaccessibility errors have been increasing again last few days. Anybody have any idea why? It's coming up frequently.

It's been happening to me since the weekend.  I thought it was my own network, since a refresh got me back on.  Typically a refresh wouldn't work due to the fact that the site is down for maintenance or something.  It'll be worked out.

Off the top of my head, I don't think $500 is the minimum today.  Maybe it's $100, but definitely not $50 I don't think.  The change I know is that you only have up to a 4 in 50 chance of "winning the game" as opposed to 8 chances to punch out one or both of 2 winning holes.  Martin had slightly more than a 20% chance toward improvement with the next punch (he did but who knows that for sure) and more than a 60% chance toward a decrease with the next punch.  That isn't accurate when factoring in the second chance slips.

I didn't think $500 was taxable, but nevertheless I might have run off with $250 back then.  Take what you can get.  Of course the IIFB prize might have me going for it.  Today you're winning much more than $500 from One Bid, back then it could've been more than $100 less.  I'd never give back $5000 even if it's my first punch.  If it means leaving more money so be it.  $1000 is debatable.

Speaking of P-A-B, I still miss the old "Blue & Gold" color scheme.  The upgrade was worth it, but the "original" set was very special
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 09, 2020, 01:01:34 AM
Off the top of my head, I don't think $500 is the minimum today.  Maybe it's $100, but definitely not $50 I don't think.

I just checked, you're right, it's not, it's $100. Has been $500 on one Primetime Special and during Big Money Weeks though.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 09, 2020, 03:26:32 AM
Just saw the Punchboard playing.  Ouch is all I can say about that.  How many years later would Bob’s theory of no way on the passé the 5k be tested? 😜
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 09, 2020, 04:25:06 AM
I notice Card Game was played on back to back episodes, between the 3am and 4am airings. Anyone have an idea as to why? Seems kinda peculiar for even this period to repeat em that quick.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 09, 2020, 05:47:40 AM
^It would have been on two different weeks, from 4645D and 4651D. Besides that, I can't justify it any further.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: UltraPrice on December 09, 2020, 07:36:25 AM
I noticed on the Pricing Game calendar that 4633D (10-20-82) is no longer gray shaded.   Did it air yesterday after being skipped over the day before?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 09, 2020, 07:48:30 AM
I noticed on the Pricing Game calendar that 4633D (10-20-82) is no longer gray shaded.   Did it air yesterday after being skipped over the day before?

I literally just went to the calendar right as you posted (but to confirm about the Card Game being on a Friday and then Monday), and I noticed that those were not grayed out anymore.  On a separate note, 4641D was updated as well to indicate the Range Game being played for a car.

Anyway, in answer to your question, UltraPrice: No it did not air yesterday.  Looks like it was confirmed by a couple sources what the line-up was.  Some people have an old collection of shows that included 4633D so that’s good.  4643D (10/27/1982) did air as scheduled, however.  That line-up was updated to match the order in which those were played
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 09, 2020, 10:19:18 AM
Ditto.  Also, the safe staying locked in Safe Crackers triggered the foghorn.  I'm not sure when this ended, but I watched a 1990 episode and they still used it. 

In addition to that, Hole in One used it in Season 20 several times, which is somewhat of a reversal given the fact that they often didn't early on, including 4642D and at least most episodes during the very early days of the show.

They've actually used the foghorn in Card Game & Check-Out for simply losing outright (not going over); definitely the former was the case which IIRC happens later this season or the next

Grand Game also used the foghorn as well on occasion throughout at least the 80s including 4651D, more so on the contestant's final pick and getting it wrong by losing $1,000.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: JayC on December 09, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
The local news channel (News 12 New Jersey) did a quick piece about the episodes streaming on Pluto during their Entertainment stories this morning. Has anyone else seen a piece on the Barker episodes stream on their local news?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 09, 2020, 11:12:18 AM
Negative.  Local CBS not on DirectTV or AT&T right now. 

Methinks network TV has about 10 years max left
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: name456 on December 09, 2020, 11:15:05 AM
I’m loving the stream. It brings back so many memories of the real Price is Right. I only have vague memories of the Cullen version (in color no less) and tried but can’t sit through the modern version.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Wayoshi on December 09, 2020, 01:08:40 PM
https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1336730770736467968

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> Do you have any idea why episode 4633 was skipped?

Likely due to technical issues. If the quality once digitized does not meet current broadcast standards we won't be able to air it. That is likely why, we are trying to air everything in order.

I am updating the lineups on my end for my bot, and have a spreadsheet going on all changes needed. So not surprised the calendar online is also getting updated as we go along.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: jlgarfield on December 09, 2020, 03:44:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3vQ2grQ.jpg)

From the November 5, 1982 ep. Look at that jacket. I take it Bob must've won the Masters. XD

Resized photo to remove scrollbar. Please shrink images before posting them, thanks :)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Plinkoman on December 09, 2020, 04:19:15 PM
From the November 5, 1982 ep. Look at that jacket. I take it Bob must've won the Masters. XD

Interesting that you say that, because as I am typing this there is a contestant playing Hole in One from Augusta, GA (which is where I am from)! Bob talked with her about the Masters, too!

(I've lived here 30 years and have never been to the Masters golf tournament. Drive by it all the time, but never been out there.)
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 09, 2020, 04:24:59 PM
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From the November 5, 1982 ep. Look at that jacket. I take it Bob must've won the Masters. XD


Interesting that you say that, because as I am typing this there is a contestant playing Hole in One from Augusta, GA (which is where I am from)! Bob talked with her about the Masters, too!

(I've lived here 30 years and have never been to the Masters golf tournament. Drive by it all the time, but never been out there.)


About a week after the aftermath of Bob celebrating his entry into Canton.  Naturally, the current episode (4-5 EST airing 12/09/2020 on Pluto) makes mention of the Masters and a green jacket.  [ETA: Jinx!]


It is still mind-blowing that it took a decade for Bob to win his first emmy.  I have been critical of Steve Harvey winning several emmys for his work on Family Feud in less time (due to not having to deal with Bob in the same category).

So he stacked another 18 in a 25-year period during a period that included the legend of Alex Trebek and Jeopardy.  I think that was a great trade-off after missing out earlier.  IIRC, there was an error in submitting his nomination though I don't know or think he would've defeated Dick Clark that year
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: thatvhstapeguy on December 09, 2020, 07:23:03 PM
I noticed today that most of the episodes (4 out of 6) had extra blank space at the top of the screen. I think they're shifting down the picture to crop out that smearing glitch we've seen before.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 09, 2020, 07:24:28 PM
Anyway, in answer to your question, UltraPrice: No it did not air yesterday.  Looks like it was confirmed by a couple sources what the line-up was.  Some people have an old collection of shows that included 4633D so that’s good.

That's exactly what happened.

Still no idea why that show didn't get aired, though.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on December 09, 2020, 08:27:01 PM
That's exactly what happened.

Still no idea why that show didn't get aired, though.

It’s possible the original film of that episode got damaged in the time period between when GSN had possession of it when they converted them, and now. Or maybe there was just an issue digitizing it and they had to send it back to whatever studio to process it again.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: thatvhstapeguy on December 09, 2020, 08:42:27 PM
It’s possible the original film of that episode got damaged in the time period between when GSN had possession of it when they converted them, and now.
I believe in '82 it'd still be a 2" Quad videotape. After all, they were still using the Norelco tube cameras. 2" is a very high quality format, but very temperamental, and the machines are getting harder to find. I don't know if sticky-shed syndrome comes into play with 2" often, but I have seen reference to the foam backing in 2" reels degrading and the adhesive gumming up the tape itself. It could have also been "eaten" by a misaligned machine. There are any number of possibilities, 2" has a number of interesting failure modes.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: gsn93 on December 09, 2020, 09:26:12 PM
The 2" tapes were already transferred over to Digibeta back in the '90s. I did noticed some minor Betacam errors on a few episodes so far. The one with Bill Cullen's cameo had issues during the opening before the first item up for bids. Stuff just happens.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on December 09, 2020, 11:03:50 PM
The 2" tapes were already transferred over to Digibeta back in the '90s. I did noticed some minor Betacam errors on a few episodes so far. The one with Bill Cullen's cameo had issues during the opening before the first item up for bids. Stuff just happens.

I believe they were transferred by GSN who did not supply Freemantle with their copy of the episodes they converted to Digibeta, so Freemantle is stuck back at square one with the quad reels
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: NickintheATL on December 09, 2020, 11:45:11 PM
I believe they were transferred by GSN who did not supply Freemantle with their copy of the episodes they converted to Digibeta, so Freemantle is stuck back at square one with the quad reels

No. That's not correct. CBS Television City transferred the tapes in the early 1990s. Per the J-Shea site (https://www.j-shea.com/TVCity/History.html):

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A particularly interesting place in TV City's basement is its so-called "Jurassic Park" videotape center. In the early 1990s, several old quad VTRs were acquired and brought back to proper specifications to enable the dubbing of programs on two-inch tape to Digital Betacam. Mark Goodson Productions was the first major customer. Twenty-four hours a day and seven days a week for months, CBS handled the archiving of the Goodson-Todman videotape library. Thousands of tapes were processed. Two Digital Betacam dubs were made of each two-inch master; one went to Goodson and the other to Sony for use on its cable Game Show Network. I'm told that the output of one of the dubbing stations was placed on a closed-circuit channel inside Television City. The vintage shows were quite a hit with employees in the building.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: thatvhstapeguy on December 09, 2020, 11:53:20 PM
You know, it would make sense that they are working off of the DigiBeta tapes... the Buzzr channel has uploaded some slates (from PYL, Match Game, and Password Plus), and they said "not every episode we have access to still has the slate." I don't think they would have trashed the Quad masters, but they're probably in a location that's a hassle to access, like that vault in an old salt mine in Hutchinson, KS.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Thrasher on December 10, 2020, 07:46:56 AM
The relationship between GSN and Buzzr/Fremantle is...interesting, and at least marginally symbiotic.

At least /some/ footage from the Buzzr broadcast library (for example, Bill Cullen's Price run) very definitely come from GSN (and not just from the same transfer; literally a dub of GSN's copy AFTER edits).  At least a couple of eps of it have literally aired with GSN's plug cover contact promos from the 90s.  Others do not and were clearly transferred from other sources.

The recent switch-off of a cluster of Youtube uploads from the GSN days through ContentID* makes it hard for me to compare the eps as broadcast on GSN vs. how Pluto is airing them, but I don't recall seeing that blurred/black strip at the bottom.  Not sure if GSN cropped that out or if it's a newer defect.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Thrasher on December 10, 2020, 07:52:53 AM
The recent switch-off of a cluster of Youtube uploads from the GSN days through ContentID*

This also serves as the first clue as to what episodes are currently in the Pluto rotation.  Except for low quality rips that have gone through the wash, clips, and a handful of seemingly random escapees, Buzzr recently switched pretty much every episode from September 1982 to the end of April '83 from "Monetized" to "Blocked", at least in the US.

Fremantle does ContentID matching on almost all of their shows on Youtube and monetizes them - videos stay up, Fremantle gets ad revenue, everyone wins, so suddenly cutting off that very specific block of episodes (at least for now) and revenue source feels very revealing, but that's mostly speculation on my part. There's zero reason for it to be that specific, otherwise, though.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Thrasher on December 10, 2020, 08:01:32 AM
Thing I've noticed in the episodes from after the Summer '82 taping break:

The lighting was absolutely re-done during the tape break.  Don't know if 33 just got a new lighting grid (haven't scrutinized the episodes that hard - yet) or if they made more deliberate creative changes, but the lighting on nearly every shot has changed (less of a whitewash with fill lighting, more darkness and shadow and darker tones).
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 10, 2020, 08:17:53 AM
Thing I've noticed in the episodes from after the Summer '82 taping break:

The lighting was absolutely re-done during the tape break.  Don't know if 33 just got a new lighting grid (haven't scrutinized the episodes that hard - yet) or if they made more deliberate creative changes, but the lighting on nearly every shot has changed (less of a whitewash with fill lighting, more darkness and shadow and darker tones).

Speaking about lighting, in the 1 episode I've seen so far from this current set that had a DOB, it was interesting to see a shot of a darkened contestant's row just as the show went off the air. That was quite different and unique.

What also was to me, related to staging, was seeing them set up Range Game while having Bob and the contestant center stage. That wasn't done otherwise in this era was it? It threw me offguard to see it.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 10, 2020, 09:15:11 AM
Mr. Breslow certainly had a lot of interesting shots during his tenure. 


Speaking of which, I totally miss this blue "spyhole" circles that were done during One Bid.  I'm not sure what the official name or the best way to describe it; I'm sorry.  Just one of several things that were done away with when Paul Alter took over from Marc
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TVC on December 10, 2020, 09:37:53 AM
I believe they were transferred by GSN who did not supply Freemantle with their copy of the episodes they converted to Digibeta, so Freemantle is stuck back at square one with the quad reels

The Goodson-Todman videotape transfers were performed at CBS Television City in the early 1990s. The master tapes (2” and 1”) were transferred to the Digital Betacam format. CBS obtained 10 two-inch quadruplex VTRs, which even then were considered antiques, and brought technicians out of retirement to perform the enormous undertaking.

I understand that two Digital Betacam copies were made of each episode. One copy went to Goodson and the other to Sony for its Game Show Network. Back when GSN aired Price Is Right episodes, the content aired from the Digital Betacam videotapes. To run on the Pluto TV Internet channel, however, these tapes need to be converted to computer files. The Digital Betacam recordings are already digital, so this process involves transcoding versus digitizing.

I have noticed that some of the episodes running on Pluto TV have what appears to be a tracking error (seen as a shimmering) at the bottom of the screen, which might be an issue with the Digital Betacam tape or the deck that played it. It looks like a partial crop was applied to the bottom of the picture to cover most of this error.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Thrasher on December 10, 2020, 09:56:25 AM
To run on the Pluto TV Internet channel, however, these tapes need to be converted to computer files.

And just to add further info, this isn't even a Pluto-specific thing; although some legacy broadcasters do keep tape decks on hand in a pinch, in general no one (particularly outside of small local markets) takes tapes straight to air anymore.  Any network who wants anything on the air - be it GSN, ESPN, your local affiliate, Buzzr, or the Price Pluto channel - is having to do the same conversion to a digital file. 
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Teddy on December 10, 2020, 11:27:17 AM
The best thing about it is, whenever Drew's show is preempted (as it is here in Charlotte), you can tune in and pretend that Bob's still hosting.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mellongraig on December 10, 2020, 06:04:36 PM
Looking at these episodes especially from 4671D-4674D it's kind of odd to see the new turntable set yet the showcase podiums still have the red and green asterisks. This probably meant that this was the first week of shows taped with the new purple-red-orange turntable set minus the back side of the spinning panel.

Seems like they also gave away a lot of money in the Showcase Showdown that week with a $6,000 win and $11,000 win, both with the dings, clangs, and whoops all going off at once.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Nick on December 10, 2020, 06:44:28 PM
Another thing I've enjoyed from the clips I've seen: the continuity of the music packages.  We were working with the '72, '74 and '76 packages exclusively at this point, and they all have a harmony of theme that makes soundtrack sound consistent.  The '83 package soon to come, while producing some good and endearing cues that were used for years, did not quite fit the musical theme employed to this point, though not quite the jarring situation by the '00s where you had the unfitting '94 and '03 packages mixed in as well.

This stance is admirable but unrealistic. No one is going to stop finding ways to back-door their way into the programming they want to see — which, per your argument, would mean no resolution will ever be found.  So...hop on a VPN and enjoy what you’re missing. :P

Not going to happen.

The lighting was absolutely re-done during the tape break.  Don't know if 33 just got a new lighting grid (haven't scrutinized the episodes that hard - yet) or if they made more deliberate creative changes, but the lighting on nearly every shot has changed (less of a whitewash with fill lighting, more darkness and shadow and darker tones).

I knew there had to be some kind of change and it was not just the age of tapes all these years.  The early '80s episodes always looked brighter than those by the mid '80s.  That evidently explains it.

I totally miss this blue "spyhole" circles that were done during One Bid.  I'm not sure what the official name or the best way to describe it; I'm sorry.  Just one of several things that were done away with when Paul Alter took over from Marc

My favourite use of this effect was when there would be a wipe-in to transition to a flat concealing the One Bid, which would then pull apart to reveal the item.  The visual trick of "pushing in" the flat to "pull it away" revealing something behind it was just so slick.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 10, 2020, 07:03:28 PM
Really painful DOB on the 6pm reairing......the 2nd contestant Esther was only over by $5......how many over the years have been over by that or less? Anyone got a general idea?
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Post by: blozier2006 on December 10, 2020, 07:14:59 PM
Really painful DOB on the 6pm reairing......the 2nd contestant Esther was only over by $5......how many over the years have been over by that or less? Anyone got a general idea?
At least two (one in 1974, one in 2004) were over by only $1. (If memory serves, the 2004 instance was a $12,000 bid on an $11,999 Showcase).
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 10, 2020, 07:21:33 PM
At least two (one in 1974, one in 2004) were over by only $1. (If memory serves, the 2004 instance was a $12,000 bid on an $11,999 Showcase).

I think I remember the latter $1 one. That'd be kinda the definition of a forced loss/overbid, especially in 2004.

And on that subject......can anybody recall many other Golden Road playings that had a choice between numbers only a digit apart for the first prize (let alone using the 4 twice in a row at that for both said prize and the second one), like the one that aired yesterday did? That seemed like a pretty evil setup. It'd be easy to get tripped up there, even though the contestant playing managed not to.
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Post by: name456 on December 11, 2020, 12:25:45 AM
This is going strictly by memory, but I seem to recall the episodes being aired out of order between now and around Christmas 82 because of differences in the set. It would go back to the old background one episode then the new the next.

One thing that always stuck with me was a serigraph offered as a price (maybe an item up for bid) around Christmas. Bob and Johnny try to figure out what it is. Later Bob makes a remark about Sarah Graff. One of those things that makes me miss Bob and Johnny interactions to this day.
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Post by: NickintheATL on December 11, 2020, 02:54:11 AM
This is going strictly by memory, but I seem to recall the episodes being aired out of order between now and around Christmas 82 because of differences in the set. It would go back to the old background one episode then the new the next.

Just to remind everyone - we have an FAQ/Timeline on this site (http://www.golden-road.net/gr_faq/index.php?title=The_Price_Is_Right_Timeline#Season_11_.28.2782-.2783.29) that is very detailed and points these things out. For example:

Quote
Week 11 (467): November 15-19

During this week's shows, the Home Viewer Showcase "Family Christmas" is presented.
On this week's shows, all panels of the Turntable wall except for the back side of the spinning panel are changed to display the purple-red-orange pattern, and the chase lights on the Turntable walls are removed. This change is not permanent at this time, as this week of shows was taped out of order.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 04:07:38 AM
I had to laugh a moment ago on the 3am rerun that's almost over as I type this. I love Johnny, and to this day see him as the best announcer Price has ever had, even as good as Rod and now George is (Rich I'd say is 4th), but him referring to Nintendo as "Ninetendo" in the showcase when describing the Palmtex hand-held game really was funny to me. I had to double-check that Nintendo was attached to those games at the time in fact, to make sure I was hearing him right. Whatever happened to this little company I wonder?  :-D :D  ;-)
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 06:03:24 AM
Looks like they are refreshing at 6AM today vs. noon as they had been since Monday. Last episode of the Home Viewer Showcase week is on now. Will be interesting to see how they handle rest of schedule from here through the weekend.

EDIT: As a sidenote, this is the famous episode seen on clip shows in the past, that sees a woman named Marlene get called and run up and then back down the aisle at the start of the 2nd segment, vs. go to contestant's row from where she was in the front row.
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Post by: Casey on December 11, 2020, 08:47:50 AM
I had to laugh a moment ago on the 3am rerun that's almost over as I type this. I love Johnny, and to this day see him as the best announcer Price has ever had, even as good as Rod and now George is (Rich I'd say is 4th), but him referring to Nintendo as "Ninetendo" in the showcase when describing the Palmtex hand-held game really was funny to me.
While watching an episode of Narz Concentration, Johnny was describing some “TV Games” made by Coleco, which he pronounced as “Co-leck-oh” even as the logo at the time said “Colēco”.  A later episode had him pronounce it correctly, but it was jarring to hear him say it wrong.
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Post by: FPGWillyT on December 11, 2020, 09:01:36 AM
7:59am CST
FINALLY!!!

And an old friend of CSS players makes an appearance!

Edit at 9:59am CST
Was that HA&TB playing during first showcase airing at edited time?
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Post by: greg on December 11, 2020, 10:41:21 AM
I’m really really enjoying Penny Ante, Poker Game, Trader Bob, & Hit Me.... I always loved these games & I’m excited to see them all again.  I’m missing Hurdles... has it been on & I just missed it or was it retired before these episodes?
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Post by: jude_este on December 11, 2020, 10:59:02 AM
I’m really really enjoying Penny Ante, Poker Game, Trader Bob, & Hit Me.... I always loved these games & I’m excited to see them all again.  I’m missing Hurdles... has it been on & I just missed it or was it retired before these episodes?

You just missed it by a few days as Hurdles was on one of the shows that aired on Monday.
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Post by: mellongraig on December 11, 2020, 11:35:11 AM
I have noticed by watching these Season 11 episodes so far, the models' wardrobe was dressed more conservative as a whole given the amount of dresses/skirts they wore (and even the same outfits on multiple episodes), perhaps because of the times in the state back then. They wore pants I think about once every week or once every two weeks so far.

Poor Gina, if she had bid $15,000 on that showcase or thereabouts, she would have won them both and would have had a huge haul.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 11, 2020, 11:50:50 AM
You just missed it by a few days as Hurdles was on one of the shows that aired on Monday.

I think you might have a chance to catch it between 12-1 EST.


Poor Gina, if she had bid $15,000 on that showcase or thereabouts, she would have won them both and would have had a huge haul.

For real!  Although IMO, Gina was trying to go for the DSW with that extra $500 (a strategy that worked before even before the increase to $250 for both showcases)
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 11, 2020, 12:08:43 PM
I think you might have a chance to catch it between 12-1 EST.


I guess not.  They've moved onto 4963D.  Seventh new episode of the day.  Still a long way to go in terms of figuring out how Pluto will run their episodes on a regular basis or what they mentioned in their release
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 12:24:51 PM
I guess not.  They've moved onto 4963D.  Seventh new episode of the day.  Still a long way to go in terms of figuring out how Pluto will run their episodes on a regular basis or what they mentioned in their release

Interesting......I wonder how far they are gonna go today and what that would mean for weekend run, assuming there will be repeats. That puts the total number of shows for the week at 31 now so....

Hurdles wasn't a part of the 1st episode they ran though for the record. It was in the 2nd one, so woulda been in the 1pm episode had they kept to the 6 episodes a day pattern.
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Post by: bigblue999 on December 11, 2020, 12:34:24 PM
Just announced on their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/TPIRBarker/posts/131124108814011

"Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!"
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Post by: Nick on December 11, 2020, 12:42:34 PM
Just announced on their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/TPIRBarker/posts/131124108814011

"Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!"

If they want to make it the best it can be, they should have the content available on demand.  Twenty-four hours a day of new episodes with no licit way to record them doesn't really give the die-hard fans they have a chance to keep up with the action.  I'm sure many former contestants and their relations would love to see their appearances again.  There's really no need for a blink-and-you-missed-it approach here.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 12:43:32 PM
Just announced on their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/TPIRBarker/posts/131124108814011

"Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!"

Hmm "now each hour a different episode will play", does that mean it will be all fresh episodes? A mix of new and old at random? That could be interpreted multiple ways. Interesting too that they're choosing to run the debut of Plinko now as well.....wonder what woulda led to that choice.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 12:47:38 PM
If they want to make it the best it can be, they should have the content available on demand.  Twenty-four hours a day of new episodes with no licit way to record them doesn't really give the die-hard fans they have a chance to keep up with the action.  I'm sure many former contestants and their relations would love to see their appearances again.  There's really no need for a blink-and-you-missed-it approach here.

I'm wondering if as they air/get more episodes digitized, they will do just that. I thought about that possibility recently. I also think it'd be a great idea as well to do that. Honestly, and maybe I'm alone in this, you all could tell me if you're suffering from this too or not, but trying to keep up with all the episodes aired thus far has been burning me out a bit at times. It's difficult to do and a lot to take in all at once, fatigue sets in at a certain point. And now if they aren't gonna do repeat cycles (or even repeats period potentially, hard to say for sure what they are gonna do from what they said) at all, that issue becomes exponentially bigger.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 11, 2020, 01:00:04 PM
Just announced on their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/TPIRBarker/posts/131124108814011

"Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!"

Personally, if they wanted to make The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, what they've done over the past week or two was just that.

Right now, I'm not a fan of this.  I think a big reason is the lack of warning and communication from them to the fans & viewers.  I don't think it's a great idea that we're finding out after the fact.  Not that it will change one's plans outside of TPIR: TBE!

We'll see the reaction, but airing new episodes outright is not the way to go.  No one's watching 25 years consecutively, and it's impossible to DVR everything.  As mentioned, it would be nice if it's available on demand after it airs.  That, and leave what's on YouTube alone, especially if their full episodes are not on demand.  Not just clips of certain moments, actual full episodes
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
Personally, if they wanted to make The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, what they've done over the past week or two was just that.

Right now, I'm not a fan of this.  I think a big reason is the lack of warning and communication from them to the fans & viewers.  I don't think it's a great idea that we're finding out after the fact.  Not that it will change one's plans outside of TPIR: TBE!

We'll see the reaction, but airing new episodes outright is not the way to go.  No one's watching 25 years consecutively, and it's impossible to DVR everything.  As mentioned, it would be nice if it's available on demand after it airs.  That, and leave what's on YouTube alone, especially if their full episodes are not on demand.  Not just clips of certain moments, actual full episodes

YouTube would actually be a great place to put at least a smattering of new episodes, if they weren't gonna do an On-Demand route strictly. It'd be some form of archive at least.
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Post by: blozier2006 on December 11, 2020, 01:09:29 PM
YouTube would actually be a great place to put at least a smattering of new episodes, if they weren't gonna do an On-Demand route strictly. It'd be some form of archive at least.
Only problem is that would make too much sense.
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Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 11, 2020, 01:14:03 PM
 :roll:

I'm just happy that after two decades we're seeing reruns.

Remember...the casual fans, not the small percentage of people cataloging these show, will watch a few episodes every few days. Thats the main audience. I'm a big fan of Price...and thats what I'm doing too.
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Post by: Spmahn on December 11, 2020, 01:31:44 PM

Remember...the casual fans, not the small percentage of people cataloging these show, will watch a few episodes every few days. Thats the main audience. I'm a big fan of Price...and thats what I'm doing too.

And they won’t care whether it’s the same 6 episodes in a loop or not. 24/7 new episodes is a middle finger to the die hards who want to watch everything.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 11, 2020, 01:33:25 PM
:roll:

I'm just happy that after two decades we're seeing reruns.

Remember...the casual fans, not the small percentage of people cataloging these show, will watch a few episodes every few days. Thats the main audience. I'm a big fan of Price...and thats what I'm doing too.

No one said they were upset.  Sure it's great to have this after 20 years without it, but it didn't kill anyone when the show left GSN.  At least for me it sucked by life continued and I made it through without it.  If this hadn't happened, I wouldn't have cared, honestly.  In other words, I'd still be saddened, but would've thought that it wasn't a big deal either.  There is still actual content available (for now) elsewhere.

I think it's fair to disagree with their decision.  It doesn't mean that I unhappy.  I don't see the problem to criticize something that might be unpopular or inconvenient, especially if it doesn't make too much sense.

I do agree that the main audience: a.k.a. casual fans would be who Pluto would cater to.  Of course, the casual fans are abundant in todays version of the show.  I just didn't see where the demand was to make such a change
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Post by: Wayoshi on December 11, 2020, 01:34:04 PM
I have a feeling they'll reverse this decision by the end of the weekend, and they just really want Plinko to debut already.

It would be nice if they could decide on something consistent.
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Post by: bigblue999 on December 11, 2020, 01:37:55 PM
This is a reply to a comment on their FB page:

"Hey there, we appreciate you wanting to catch them all! Lots of folks were feeling they weren't getting enough variety. We are airing 100 episodes in order and then those will repeat. We are not prepared logistically to share a schedule, but understand the interest and will work on it. Thank you!"
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Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 11, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
And they won’t care whether it’s the same 6 episodes in a loop or not. 24/7 new episodes is a middle finger to the die hards who want to watch everything.

But they just said that they want to air MORE episodes. That refutes your point.
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Post by: Wayoshi on December 11, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
100 ep block isn't the worst in the world. Hopefully they can get a schedule going.

On Discord we have a couple users with automated scripts that look promising in getting these episodes recorded. I am thinking over the best way to then have those available for all who want it.
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Post by: FPGWillyT on December 11, 2020, 01:51:18 PM
:roll:

I'm just happy that after two decades we're seeing reruns.

Remember...the casual fans, not the small percentage of people cataloging these show, will watch a few episodes every few days. Thats the main audience. I'm a big fan of Price...and thats what I'm doing too.

I mind not one bit they are, apparently, randomizing the order.  As someone who initially thought they were “cherry picking” and not pretty much airing episodes chronologically, I won’t mind missing here and there knowing there will be something to tear up over in each episode.

I mind not one bit that you can hear cries from the selectee as they hear their name.

I mind not one bit that I can watch these audiences, which are tame by comparison of what’s to come, are infintessimally better than what’s airing now.  I’m not just talking about COVID either.  The audiences before were stagnant bordering on complete comatose.  Made the mistake of catching the end of Bag today. 

Enjoy for every moment what you are able to see, and more importantly hear.  It’s beautiful to this LFaT, especially watching a showcase where a small person was following Holly around with a pillow when she was wearing roller skates.

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Post by: Spmahn on December 11, 2020, 01:51:55 PM
But they just said that they want to air MORE episodes. That refutes your point.

Who is they?
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Post by: LarryC on December 11, 2020, 01:55:38 PM
Anybody know the name of the jazz song that played during a second showcase yesterday?  It was a popular tune back in the day, and I'm struggling to identify it.

The showcase skit had Johnny in a tuxedo, then Dian wearing a beautiful dress, then a fancy car as the final prize.  It sounds like Spyro Gyra, but I'm not sure it is.

Ah .... the '80s.  Speaking of which:  How cool is it that they're leaving the music intact the same way it originally aired? 
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 01:56:25 PM
100 ep block isn't the worst in the world. Hopefully they can get a schedule going.

On Discord we have a couple users with automated scripts that look promising in getting these episodes recorded. I am thinking over the best way to then have those available for all who want it.

This is a good idea. And now at least we know where the reset point is/just how much they have in their archive thus far, which would amount to roughly half the season FWIW. It's interesting though how.....they promoted Plinko in their main promo for the launch, but of the 100 shows they have/have set to go in their rotation, it'd only be seen a handful of times at best. Not that many casuals would notice that I suppose.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 11, 2020, 01:57:24 PM
I have a feeling they'll reverse this decision by the end of the weekend, and they just really want Plinko to debut already.

It would be nice if they could decide on something consistent.

For real.  As mentioned, that's the main argument: the lack of consistency.  To some extent, the lack of communication.  They've been pretty good for the most part, but I understand that what they're doing is subject to change.  If there's no schedule, so be it, but I wish they would either stick to something or at least make note that it's a work in progress.  Obviously now they don't need to, not that they were obligated to in the first place.

You're right, Wayoshi.  The 100 episode block is not a big deal at all.  I'll be honest.  If they had decided to do that in the beginning or just run every episode from 1982-2007 I would have been fine with that.  Sorry to sound morbid, but the future isn't guaranteed.  30 episodes per week is okay but the sooner they wrap everything up the better.  I'd rather see everything completed by 2021 as opposed to early 2024 or whenever
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Post by: pannoni1 on December 11, 2020, 02:02:50 PM
Well 100 episodes starting today takes us to around mid-April 1983, and I feel that after this flush of episodes is processed, a loop of the first 3/4's or so of Season 11 will likely air at least a few more times so that Pluto can get the next batch of episodes ready. Since the blocking of YouTube episodes was the biggest indicator, I feel that we won't see any other new-to-Pluto stuff until another content ID wave goes off. That end point comes shortly before the new 1983 music package was introduced. By watching a little at a time, you're apt to get a mix of haven't seen and have seen shows, which is part of the experiment that Pluto is attempting. I prefer the four cycles of six per day, but we'll see how this plays out. Hopefully we won't have to wait several months for a fresh batch of episodes like you do on BUZZR.
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Post by: Wayoshi on December 11, 2020, 02:04:28 PM
The only annoyance I have is they can't quite decide yet on a consistent way to deliver these eps. But the channel has only been up 10 days, after all.

On demand for thousands of eps wasn't going to happen. They want you to watch the channel and to get that ad revenue in.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 02:07:30 PM
Well 100 episodes starting today takes us to around mid-April 1983, and I feel that after this flush of episodes is processed, a loop of the first 3/4's or so of Season 11 will likely air at least a few more times so that Pluto can get the next batch of episodes ready. Since the blocking of YouTube episodes was the biggest indicator, I feel that we won't see any other new-to-Pluto stuff until another content ID wave goes off. That end point comes shortly before the new 1983 music package was introduced. By watching a little at a time, you're apt to get a mix of haven't seen and have seen shows, which is part of the experiment that Pluto is attempting. I prefer the four cycles of six per day, but we'll see how this plays out. Hopefully we won't have to wait several months for a fresh batch of episodes like you do on BUZZR.

Are we sure it's 100 episodes in order from now? Or 100 total? I was interpreting that as 100 from when it started, although given what they took off YT up to now, it'd make sense that maybe it's more.
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Post by: Spmahn on December 11, 2020, 02:09:03 PM
Hopefully we won't have to wait several months for a fresh batch of episodes like you do on BUZZR.

Buzzr has been hurt particularly by Covid, they haven’t been able to get people into their studio to work on digitizing, hopefully they should get better after the New Year.
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Post by: djryan on December 11, 2020, 02:11:41 PM
Assuming that if they have 100 episodes to start with...if they run a different ep in a 24 hour cycle...then the 100 ep repeat cycle would be just over a 4-day period each...(as opposed to the 6 hour repeat schedule).  It's not as bad looking at it that way to catch certain eps that are missed..
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Post by: jeremynelson1987 on December 11, 2020, 02:55:42 PM
If they want to make it the best it can be, they should have the content available on demand.  Twenty-four hours a day of new episodes with no licit way to record them doesn't really give the die-hard fans they have a chance to keep up with the action.  I'm sure many former contestants and their relations would love to see their appearances again.  There's really no need for a blink-and-you-missed-it approach here.

It’s a free content stream, which isn’t just for the die hards. We get what we’re gonna get, and considering that most of us haven’t seen these episodes in this level of video quality, this is sort of a big get. We got the action play set for Christmas but are still wondering why we didn’t get the attack chopper too. One step at a time.

That being said, 6 a day works. Nobody outside of you lot are going to be watching these episodes at a ridiculous clip over an extended period of time, so very few will know the difference.
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Post by: saturn93 on December 11, 2020, 03:13:38 PM
Anybody know the name of the jazz song that played during a second showcase yesterday?  It was a popular tune back in the day, and I'm struggling to identify it.

The showcase skit had Johnny in a tuxedo, then Dian wearing a beautiful dress, then a fancy car as the final prize.  It sounds like Spyro Gyra, but I'm not sure it is.

Ah .... the '80s.  Speaking of which:  How cool is it that they're leaving the music intact the same way it originally aired?

That was Route 101 by Herb Alpert.  I hear that quite a bit on Yacht Rock Radio on Sirius XM.
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Post by: blozier2006 on December 11, 2020, 04:16:11 PM
Buzzr has been hurt particularly by Covid, they haven’t been able to get people into their studio to work on digitizing, hopefully they should get better after the New Year.
In their defense, December is a slow month for them in general... at least until the week of the 21st. Business will be picking up then.
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Post by: Teddy on December 11, 2020, 04:33:24 PM
The Spyro Gyra song you were thinking about is most likely Morning Dance. It was played a lot back in the 80s, continuing well into Rod's stint as the announcer.
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 11, 2020, 06:52:25 PM
At least two (one in 1974, one in 2004) were over by only $1. (If memory serves, the 2004 instance was a $12,000 bid on an $11,999 Showcase).

Memory does serve...that episode stood out not only because of the obvious painful overbid but also because that was the first showcase worth under $12,000 in over two years.
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Post by: PimpinJC on December 11, 2020, 08:04:22 PM
Some of you folks here aren’t going to be satisfied no matter what Pluto does.  We’re getting reruns of episodes not seen in almost 40 years...and yet you’re still complaining.  Pluto is likely one day to completely pull the channel and we won’t have anything.  We should be thankful we have a place where we can get our Bob fix of Price anytime we want.

And call me crazy, but I like the new change.  The first week, I caught Price a few days (Wednesday and Saturday) for a few hours each day (which is what your casual viewer is doing, not the die hards here that are likely recording each episode).  By the time Saturday came, I was already seeing repeats.  I would imagine the 100-episode block is so that the casual viewers aren’t seeing repeats as often.

Also, I hope the channel stays for longer than just showing everything through once.  Most of us probably want to get to some Rod Roddy episodes at some point.  The only way we’re going to get there in any kind of quick fashion is for new episodes to actually air.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 08:13:39 PM
Some of you folks here aren’t going to be satisfied no matter what Pluto does.  We’re getting reruns of episodes not seen in almost 40 years...and yet you’re still complaining.  Pluto is likely one day to completely pull the channel and we won’t have anything.  We should be thankful we have a place where we can get our Bob fix of Price anytime we want.

And call me crazy, but I like the new change.  The first week, I caught Price a few days (Wednesday and Saturday) for a few hours each day (which is what your casual viewer is doing, not the die hards here that are likely recording each episode).  By the time Saturday came, I was already seeing repeats.  I would imagine the 100-episode block is so that the casual viewers aren’t seeing repeats as often.

Also, I hope the channel stays for longer than just showing everything through once.  Most of us probably want to get to some Rod Roddy episodes at some point.  The only way we’re going to get there in any kind of quick fashion is for new episodes to actually air.

I'd sorta be ok watching like 2 or 3 shows a day fresh at random times honestly. As I said before, I was burning out on 6 (and day 1 9) new shows a day, it got to be too much time wise and even otherwise. Constantly having new episodes would be good that way, and chances of seeing repeats wouldn't be too high at a few a day or so.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: MrPlinko on December 11, 2020, 09:38:49 PM
This is AWESOME!!!

I don't think you are going to have to worry about Pluto TV going anywhere!  They have been around for several years and are always adding new content. There was a playing of Bonus Game around an episode I watched at about 7:45 PM (CST) and the lady had 3/4 small prize windows lit, and my Internet connection goes down, just as Bob says, "I'm almost afraid to proceed. I don't know how many times a contestant got 3/4 prizes right, and lost the bonus prize window." Did she win?

Question are they going in episode blocks per day and than repeating them at night?  If so how many episodes in a block?  I saw a Hurdles playing and part of the episode with the lady who takes the long way around to "Come on Down" (Marlene Miles!) and the same show where an audience member's gum flies out of her mouth when giving bidding advice!

The only downsides are that Pluto TV has no schedule or keyword search to find shows, which would be a Godsend if added!

Joe
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: MrPlinko on December 11, 2020, 09:50:01 PM
Guys,

Do you think that Pluto can only do episodes from 1982 and beyond because they can't show any episodes where furs were given away as prizes? And if they go from 1972-1981, they would have to axe any such episodes with furs in them?  I think Pluto payed a fortune for this, so we really should enjoy and share these moments!

The other reason for not being able to air episodes earlier than 1982 could be that some of the master tapes could be in poor condition, and because of COVID and digitizing time, they can't air them.  Quality is AMAZING for what I have seen so far!

Joe
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 11, 2020, 10:07:36 PM
This is AWESOME!!!

I don't think you are going to have to worry about Pluto TV going anywhere!  They have been around for several years and are always adding new content. There was a playing of Bonus Game around an episode I watched at about 7:45 PM (CST) and the lady had 3/4 small prize windows lit, and my Internet connection goes down, just as Bob says, "I'm almost afraid to proceed. I don't know how many times a contestant got 3/4 prizes right, and lost the bonus prize window." Did she win?

Question are they going in episode blocks per day and than repeating them at night?  If so how many episodes in a block?  I saw a Hurdles playing and part of the episode with the lady who takes the long way around to "Come on Down" (Marlene Miles!) and the same show where an audience member's gum flies out of her mouth when giving bidding advice!

The only downsides are that Pluto TV has no schedule or keyword search to find shows, which would be a Godsend if added!

Joe


It's a work in progress.  I can see the concern regarding how they operate.  Meh.  It's football season.  Several people are dealing with that, in addition to work, other obligations, and the holidays (even though they may be a little different this year).  In terms of catching every episode and when they air, with the intent of trying to catch something one missed during its original CBS run & the GSN airing, I understand the gripe.  Other than that, not a big deal anymore.  I can do whatever it is I'm doing, and then catch a random TPIR episode from 1982-1983.  It's a nice thing, a blessing.  It does suck that they don't list what's coming up, so that is a valid argument.


As for that Bonus Game result 3/4?  Yes the contestant won.


Nothing from the first ten seasons.  Several reasons & guidelines prevent that from happening now.  Outside of bad quality, I don't see those airing anytime soon, if at all
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Thatgameshowguy on December 11, 2020, 10:14:35 PM
And call me crazy, but I like the new change.  The first week, I caught Price a few days (Wednesday and Saturday) for a few hours each day (which is what your casual viewer is doing, not the die hards here that are likely recording each episode).  By the time Saturday came, I was already seeing repeats.  I would imagine the 100-episode block is so that the casual viewers aren’t seeing repeats as often.


Saturday was designated for repeats.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 10:37:13 PM

Saturday was designated for repeats.

As was Sunday. And to answer the earlier question here....it was initially 4 6 hour blocks (2-12 hour ones last weekend), after 9 aired in 10 hours or so at launch Day 1 before it settled into that, and since 6AM this morning it's been straight through new with no apparent change coming. But time will tell if that sticks or not.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Spmahn on December 11, 2020, 11:16:43 PM
Guys,

Do you think that Pluto can only do episodes from 1982 and beyond because they can't show any episodes where furs were given away as prizes? And if they go from 1972-1981, they would have to axe any such episodes with furs in them?

This is exactly why, GSN never aired any fur episodes either. Although some feel differently, I suspect this rule won’t outlive Bob. Once Bob is gone, after a sufficient amount of time has passed, I think they’ll go backwards in the archive, perhaps air them with a disclaimer similar to what WB, Disney, and MGM do with racially insensitive cartoons from the 30’s and 40’s.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 11:27:06 PM
This is exactly why, GSN never aired any fur episodes either. Although some feel differently, I suspect this rule won’t outlive Bob. Once Bob is gone, after a sufficient amount of time has passed, I think they’ll go backwards in the archive, perhaps air them with a disclaimer similar to what WB, Disney, and MGM do with racially insensitive cartoons from the 30’s and 40’s.

This should be corrected to state that they did air a handful, but those were by accident, they had slipped through the cracks of the editors going through the shows to see which had furs and which did not.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 11, 2020, 11:40:13 PM
Given the fact that they've lacked consistency, I've been wondering if on Christmas (or even Christmas week) we could see a full day of Christmas shows the show has done within Bob's last 25 years.  I don't think I'd sit through that (as if it were Midnight Madness for College Hoops), but in my honest opinion, if Pluto aired those Christmas episodes consecutively I would love it.


I'm not going to bet that obviously.  At least this year.  Unless they edited/formatted those episodes to the point where they'd be ready to air on Pluto Television
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 11, 2020, 11:46:17 PM
Given the fact that they've lacked consistency, I've been wondering if on Christmas (or even Christmas week) we could see a full day of Christmas shows the show has done within Bob's last 25 years.  I don't think I'd sit through that (as if it were Midnight Madness for College Hoops), but in my honest opinion, if Pluto aired those Christmas episodes consecutively I would love it.


I'm not going to bet that obviously.  At least this year.  Unless they edited/formatted those episodes to the point where they'd be ready to air on Pluto Television

Well....when the channel initially launched.......that WAS touted as something they had planned, so it may well be possible......that would be lots of fun if so. Did the earlier Christmas shows (seeing as the tradition started in 79 right?) have any furs? I wonder if somehow even those may get unearthed, though I doubt it.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: COINBOYNYC on December 12, 2020, 12:04:01 AM
Nothing from the first ten seasons.  Several reasons & guidelines prevent that from happening now.  Outside of bad quality, I don't see those airing anytime soon, if at all

What are the reasons and guidelines?
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: mrbrown2195 on December 12, 2020, 12:06:38 AM
They played Clock Game for a car?!
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: pricefan18 on December 12, 2020, 12:11:43 AM
They played Clock Game for a car?!

They played it for a few different 4 digit prizes back then.....another one came up that was something around $1700 just the other day. I don't remember offhand how long the experiment lasted, wasn't long as best I recall, but...it was a thing for a little while in this era.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 12, 2020, 01:11:04 AM
It’s Christmas time already on Pluto!  Guess I’m not watching NYPD Blue reruns tonight.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 12, 2020, 08:13:02 AM
4733D appears to have been skipped. That bumps up the first Plinko to a bit past 100 minutes after I post this, 10 EST / 7 PST.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: LarryC on December 12, 2020, 10:08:09 AM
That was Route 101 by Herb Alpert.  I hear that quite a bit on Yacht Rock Radio on Sirius XM.
That's it!  Thanks a lot.

It played again on another episode yesterday, during a showcase.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 12, 2020, 11:37:57 AM
4733D appears to have been skipped. That bumps up the first Plinko to a bit past 100 minutes after I post this, 10 EST / 7 PST.

Shortly before I checked in this morning, I had a hunch that an episode would be skipped.  Wasn't sure which one, but the result was the same: The Plinko premiere airing an hour earlier.  It is what it is
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: Thrasher on December 12, 2020, 11:44:10 AM
For everything Pluto runs starting from Fall '82 (or if the show ever turns up elsewhere), assume it was a specific music licensing issue (4733D *does* have a licensed song in SC2 - Baby Elephant Walk by Henry Mancini) or otherwise is an issue with the tape being damaged.
Title: Re: Bob Barker era reruns returning to Pluto TV beginning tomorrow 12/1/20
Post by: SamJ93 on December 12, 2020, 01:11:35 PM
I'm fairly sure I heard "Baby Elephant Walk" in a different episode earlier, so it would likely be the latter.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Wayoshi on December 12, 2020, 02:27:19 PM
Boy, they hate -33D episodes. :P
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 12, 2020, 02:56:02 PM
So.....if what they've said is accurate, and they indeed have 100 episodes that are digitized and broadcast worthy right now in their rotation, there should be a reset by early tomorrow I think. They will have ran 96 episodes by my count by end of today, 24 last week, 24 this week and then 24 yesterday and today. So I'd expect a recycling of them by 10AM tomorrow morning, but could be wrong.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on December 12, 2020, 03:02:21 PM
I've noticed that starting on 4745D (which was another standing ovation), the circle wipes have begun to be used during Bob's entrance, but only for the first part as the second part remains a jump cut.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Wayoshi on December 12, 2020, 03:37:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QaH8pK7.png)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Nick on December 12, 2020, 03:45:05 PM
[image snipped]

That is brilliant!

That's not the Plinko stick being used as a pointer, is it?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: therealcu2010 on December 12, 2020, 03:57:21 PM
It most certainly is!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 12, 2020, 04:10:02 PM
Holy cow, the second playing of Plinko uses the Cats stinger but the disco ball!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Wayoshi on December 12, 2020, 04:10:48 PM
Contrary to what's listed on the timeline, the disco ball was just used for Plinko again.

EDIT: And the WIN/price reveal is still from the first playing.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Teddy on December 12, 2020, 04:16:34 PM
Contrary to what's listed on the timeline, the disco ball was just used for Plinko again.
Also, the old SP reveal is in use (with the diagonal WIN! taking up a single white card), but all the right prices are white numbers on red cards.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Wayoshi on December 12, 2020, 04:31:05 PM
[Blank Check image]
Streamable of the playing, thanks vhs. (https://streamable.com/ozxs6t) (will stay up for 90 days)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 12, 2020, 04:31:53 PM
Contrary to what's listed on the timeline, the disco ball was just used for Plinko again.

EDIT: And the WIN/price reveal is still from the first playing.

This is why I would wish they weren't airing these all at once honestly......these little things can be so easily missed now......
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 12, 2020, 05:50:50 PM
This is why I would wish they weren't airing these all at once honestly......these little things can be so easily missed now......

No kidding.  I had the episode on during football, and of course I missed the second act.


Man, sure did dominate the Shell Game in Season 11!  At lease since Week 2; there were a couple contestants that won completely.  Took bad the current bonus wasn't available but I'll more likely to accept someone giving away $500 before I say no thanks.  Money is money.  Sadly the contestant missed out on perfection in the current episode airing (4753D).  3 out of 4 with the win coming from his first selection.  I'd bet Cowboy Lonnie might have gone with his first choice for the bonus, but we'll never know

Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 12, 2020, 06:35:56 PM
This is why I would wish they weren't airing these all at once honestly......these little things can be so easily missed now......

Jean winning DP for a car was pure freaking money.  Just in case you missed that.

And Leroy Anderson.  😢


Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 12, 2020, 06:48:10 PM
Jean winning DP for a car was pure freaking money.  Just in case you missed that.

And Leroy Anderson.  😢

It's funny in a way, I was heavily invested in trying to keep up with the shows when it was just 6 a day, but since yesterday the desire to has lessened a bit because it's just so much to begin with so almost feels fruitless to bother. Not that it wasn't a lot before, but at least there was a more manageable pattern and wouldn't miss as much if you did skip some as I actually ended up doing this week admittedly.

The only ones I really made a point to watch were the Christmas week shows last night/early this morning, and even then I missed the 1st one and the first portion of the 2nd not knowing they were on (appreciate you making mention of em airing, woulda missed them entirely had I not seen that), haven't really at all otherwise since yesterday morning.

The other thing that kinda sucks about it, is the fact that if Pluto glitches up on my end, which has happened a fair few times since launch, you can't go back and catch what you missed like you coulda before. You miss it, you miss it till the next rotation if you remember it's back on.....I guess it's a throwback to the early days before VCRs, but still kinda stinks.

I hope as they cycle through shows, they put the previous aired ones on demand. I could possibly see that being a thing. Would be nice if they aren't gonna have multiple cycles/periods airing at once right now.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 12, 2020, 08:16:08 PM
It's funny in a way, I was heavily invested in trying to keep up with the shows when it was just 6 a day, but since yesterday the desire to has lessened a bit because it's just so much to begin with so almost feels fruitless to bother. Not that it wasn't a lot before, but at least there was a more manageable pattern and wouldn't miss as much if you did skip some as I actually ended up doing this week admittedly.

The only ones I really made a point to watch were the Christmas week shows last night/early this morning, and even then I missed the 1st one and the first portion of the 2nd not knowing they were on (appreciate you making mention of em airing, woulda missed them entirely had I not seen that), haven't really at all otherwise since yesterday morning.

The other thing that kinda sucks about it, is the fact that if Pluto glitches up on my end, which has happened a fair few times since launch, you can't go back and catch what you missed like you coulda before. You miss it, you miss it till the next rotation if you remember it's back on.....I guess it's a throwback to the early days before VCRs, but still kinda stinks.

I hope as they cycle through shows, they put the previous aired ones on demand. I could possibly see that being a thing. Would be nice if they aren't gonna have multiple cycles/periods airing at once right now.


Just curious: What device are you using?  Are you using a smartphone, your PC, or maybe Roku to view the show?  When I've streamed in the past, I haven't had too many issues, especially when you deal with Xfinity.  Of course I had the option of rewinding & recording.  The freezing & skipping does suck.

I not going to hold my breath that they put this run on demand right now.  It's too soon despite the uncertainty that they'll re-air them soon or not until they air everything else.  I think they would have to do it in a way that doesn't ruin the channel.  I respect it if they don't; it'll mean you'd have to tune in if you want to see something from the classics.

Total speculation: I can see them emulating what GSN does with Family Feud, down the road.  For instance, they can air consecutive episodes from a season for 4 hours, then a different episode from another season for 4 hours, and so on.  Say they air Season 15 from 2-6 on Wednesday, and then they move to, let's say Season 27 from 6-10.  The following & previous day they would continue with where they left off at the same timeslot
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 12, 2020, 09:04:29 PM

Just curious: What device are you using?  Are you using a smartphone, your PC, or maybe Roku to view the show?  When I've streamed in the past, I haven't had too many issues, especially when you deal with Xfinity.  Of course I had the option of rewinding & recording.  The freezing & skipping does suck.

I not going to hold my breath that they put this run on demand right now.  It's too soon despite the uncertainty that they'll re-air them soon or not until they air everything else.  I think they would have to do it in a way that doesn't ruin the channel.  I respect it if they don't; it'll mean you'd have to tune in if you want to see something from the classics.

Total speculation: I can see them emulating what GSN does with Family Feud, down the road.  For instance, they can air consecutive episodes from a season for 4 hours, then a different episode from another season for 4 hours, and so on.  Say they air Season 15 from 2-6 on Wednesday, and then they move to, let's say Season 27 from 6-10.  The following & previous day they would continue with where they left off at the same timeslot

PC here, it's not always bad, but especially if I am going from tab to tab, if I switch back and forth it will glitch some. It won't do it as much if I keep it static on the stream, but occasionally still will.

Yeah I could see them doing something like that eventually, I was thinking that could happen eventually, if not doing whole days dedicated to eras like GSN did, but 24 hours straight of one would still be a lot, when it was in 6 hour cycles that was better, less so now. What you say is much more sensible with that.

The way I was thinking incidentally was for them to have the previous 100 on demand as the next 100 came in, and if they went chronologically all through the last 25 years, adding batches as they went that way. That way if say....they were in Season 15 on the stream, people could still see Season's 11-14 in the archives on their own if they liked. Now what would happen when they aired the whole run would be its' own question, maybe taking batches they'd be airing at the time off on-demand and then putting em back after reairing? Possibly? That could be one option, but this would all be like you said, pure speculation about that. Just one man's thoughts here lol, time will tell what they do one way or the other.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on December 12, 2020, 11:14:36 PM
Well, now on the 3rd playing of Plinko (4764D), the sign is in use (in the back of the audience), and now the WIN/price reveal has adopted its normal way.

Is it just me or was the big wheel loose around this time frame? Seems to me that it took a little longer for the wheel to slow down and stop on a certain number.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: jhc2010 on December 12, 2020, 11:16:19 PM
Is it just me or was the big wheel loose around this time frame? Seems to me that it took a little longer for the wheel to slow down and stop on a certain number.
Yes the Big Wheel seems very loose during these shows, likely to reduce the number of spins that don’t make one full revolution.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 12, 2020, 11:36:41 PM
Yes the Big Wheel seems very loose during these shows, likely to reduce the number of spins that don’t make one full revolution.

It's kinda funny that woulda been the case in an era that had more time to work with than now, you'd think it'd be the other way around lol. I noticed that though even in the past, wonder when that woulda shifted.

Also, speaking of, in one of the shows yesterday, did anyone catch the little Safe Crackers sound effect that was played twice, after a couple of particularly big spins by a male contestant? The first one went unnoticed, but the second one didn't leading to Bob making a comment about it. Me thinks the staff decided to play a little joke on him, after he had said prior to the spins how the Wheel might get broken basically by the force of the guy. It was pretty amusing.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 01:14:03 AM
Did anyone get a vid/could they post one of the woman named K in the last segment just aired now, that had what has to be the longest and really shortest name in Price is Right history? It deserves to be captured I think.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 13, 2020, 01:18:36 AM
Regarding the Big Wheel, I think there were a couple of consecutive episodes earlier this season where someone didn't get the wheel all the way around.  From that, however, a couple of people, whose second spins didn't count ended up with $1,000 in their 3rd spins.  Anyway, whatever adjustments were made were worth it thus far

Man, maybe I remember the Card Game being so difficult (and a little unfair).  I just do not remember this many contestants underbidding.  Can't blame the most recent player who was $110 short of winning with a $700 range.  There was a good chance that she could've gone from not being close enough to going over with her next draw
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: bigblue999 on December 13, 2020, 02:07:20 AM
Bob was always wishing cameraman Marty Wagner a happy birthday, even back in 1983.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 13, 2020, 02:15:07 AM
Later on Sunday, an episode will air that has Hurdles in Act III and Race Game in Act IV and I’m wondering whether or not our old FPG friend Dob would have considered that a conflict?

😂
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 02:25:19 AM
Later on Sunday, an episode will air that has Hurdles in Act III and Race Game in Act IV and I’m wondering whether or not our old FPG friend Dob would have considered that a conflict?

😂

How late? They may repeat before then if I had my timing right.....they would hit 100 episodes as of the 9am airing. If that's all they got, they would be repeating beginning at 10.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on December 13, 2020, 02:28:24 AM
Did anyone get a vid/could they post one of the woman named K in the last segment just aired now, that had what has to be the longest and really shortest name in Price is Right history? It deserves to be captured I think.

That was a great moment. I wondered if that was already out there in a highlights reel on YouTube somewhere. I've never heard of anyone with a name like that in my life. For those who missed it, her nametag said only "K." She handed Bob a card when he asked if her name was only one letter. The card could be seen briefly on camera. She had a first name that appeared to be over 50 letters long. Bob tried to read out the name and gave up halfway through.

Bob said later on in the episode that she was, I believe, Miss Hawaii 1969. But looking up Miss Hawaii on Wikipedia, she is not the winner that year or any other year. So I don't know if I misheard that, he misspoke or things were confused with a different pageant.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 02:34:36 AM
That was a great moment. I wondered if that was already out there in a highlights reel on YouTube somewhere. I've never heard of anyone with a name like that in my life. For those who missed it, her nametag said only "K." She handed Bob a card when he asked if her name was only one letter. The card could be seen briefly on camera. She had a first name that appeared to be over 50 letters long. Bob tried to read out the name and gave up halfway through.

What made it even better too, was after that she had tried to pronounce her name properly for him as it was a native Hawaiian name, and Bob initially said "Can you even say that?" in response. Really funny moment all around.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on December 13, 2020, 02:50:01 AM
According to this newspaper archive article, the woman was not even a contestant in Miss Hawaii 1969. So I don't know if the year Bob said was wrong or it was a different pageant or what.

Search on:
"judith higaki" "miss hawaii"

Apparently, the long name issue is something that happens in Hawaii. This article is about a woman recently trying to get her name to fit on her driver's license. In this case, it was her last name though, not her first.

Search on:
"Keihanaikukauakahihuliheekahaunaele's name finally fits on ID"

The funniest moment I've seen yet on the Pluto airings is in the dice game where a woman rolled a 5 for the second number and guessed that the correct number was higher. Bob tried to make sure she understood the rules after she rolled again and it was clear she was confused. By the end was glancing back at the second number with a worried look. But then it turned out that number was a 6 and she won the car. Bob went to commercial saying, "This just proves that you don't even need to know what you're doing to win on The Price is Right."
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 03:58:35 AM
The funniest moment I've seen yet on the Pluto airings is in the dice game where a woman rolled a 5 for the second number and guessed that the correct number was higher. Bob tried to make sure she understood the rules after she rolled again and it was clear she was confused. By the end was glancing back at the second number with a worried look. But then it turned out that number was a 6 and she won the car. Bob went to commercial saying, "This just proves that you don't even need to know what you're doing to win on The Price is Right."

That kinda speaks to what he said about Blank Check/Check Game last night. He remarked even with how many don't understand the game, 70 percent win it, and went on to say that a staff member (mighta been Marty come to think of it), said that the moment someone did understand the game, it'd mean they aren't likely to win lol. Betty on the playing just now disproved that theory though lol, since she understood without any need for an explanation and won.

Speaking of too, we got a rare acknowledgment of what happens off camera with regards to cash awards, and more specifically the checks that have been asked about recently here too actually in terms of if anyone has any or has seen any winning ones online anywhere, after the fact during the Showcase Showdown after that, when Bob was saying how Betty was telling her she was worried about cashing the check she was given in the game. Bob assured her it was fine, told her it was a souvenir and that she'd get a legitimate check in the mail later on. So that was rather interesting to see.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 13, 2020, 03:59:01 AM
How late? They may repeat before then if I had my timing right.....they would hit 100 episodes as of the 9am airing. If that's all they got, they would be repeating beginning at 10.

Assuming no skips 11:00am CST (OAD 2/7/83)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 04:01:33 AM
Assuming no skips 11:00am CST

Yeah, I'm not sure you'll see that or not. Will see if they do stop at 100 though or not, maybe they got more.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 04:09:39 AM
Interesting prize choices for Most Expensive in the 1st game of the current airing, with a Clock, a Trip to Vegas and a Sailboat and the Clock being the Most Expensive of the 3. Forced loss setup to you all? The contestant managed to win, but I woulda chose the Sailboat, which ended up being fairly cheap at under $800 I believe it was.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan1991 on December 13, 2020, 06:35:21 AM
Looks like another episode got skipped; based on initial evidence, it looks like it was 4775D
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on December 13, 2020, 08:08:05 AM
And another one appears to be skipped, this time 4784D now totaling 4 even though they all aired on GSN back then.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 13, 2020, 10:03:39 AM
The hundred episode loop includes all episodes that ever aired on Pluto TV. We're back to 4581D, unfortunately.

We were this close to getting the drunk show, aw.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: djryan on December 13, 2020, 10:18:14 AM
The hundred episode loop includes all episodes that ever aired on Pluto TV. We're back to 4581D, unfortunately.

We were this close to getting the drunk show, aw.

Hey, for what it's worth, I'm impressed we got this many in the 1st batch!  Kudos to PLUTO & Fremantle for making this happen!  More will come later to this channel, no doubt!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 13, 2020, 10:39:32 AM
Oh, yeah, don't take my statement as me hating Pluto for ending the 100 episode loop; I'm shocked we got so much retro Price and am glad I could have finally seen so much Price. I'm sure we'll get a massive dump of new episodes soon.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on December 13, 2020, 11:06:17 AM
So, noticed something on the January 13th show that's really sticking.  Contestant plays Lucky Seven.  Johnny reads the prize copy for a 1983 Ford Escort, game plays normally, car on stage looks pretty much right, no big deal. Contestant loses by $1 on the last digit.

Teeny tiny problem, and it's never brought to light on air.  From the car reveal.  (The car onstage is a 1983 Mercury Lynx - might as well be the same car, but it's technically not)

(https://i.imgur.com/mMcxbAx.png)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 13, 2020, 11:54:23 AM
Wow.  That is interesting.  I missed that with the conclusion of the Army/Navy game airing on the same network 38 years later.


TPIR isn't a gameshow that has the practice of bringing contestants back on a future show due to a technical error, but they are very good at making up for it if it's caught in time (in this case, she would've won).  I'd say no to bringing her back in this case; even though she missed it by $1, she had a chance to win based on how the game played out.  It's tough; this isn't one of those situations where you could say it had no bearing on the final result
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on December 13, 2020, 03:52:31 PM
On two of the Pluto episodes that I've seen, I heard Johnny O. announce during the end credits that a contestant was deemed ineligible and would not receive their prizes. Was I hearing things or was he really saying someone on that show had been deemed ineligible (by the time it aired)? Anyone know why that happened? I would have to guess they ended up being related to a CBS employee.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JayC on December 13, 2020, 04:10:52 PM
It's happened a few times over the years that a contestant playing was found to be ineligible and that announcement was made at the end of the show. I recall at least once it was because the contestant was found to be related (married?) to a CBS employee, and another time because the contestant was on the show before (prior to contestants being eligible once every 10 years).
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: thatvhstapeguy on December 13, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
Did anyone get a vid/could they post one of the woman named K in the last segment just aired now, that had what has to be the longest and really shortest name in Price is Right history? It deserves to be captured I think.

Streamable of the interaction in question: https://streamable.com/f052ns
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 13, 2020, 04:33:46 PM
It's happened a few times over the years that a contestant playing was found to be ineligible and that announcement was made at the end of the show. I recall at least once it was because the contestant was found to be related (married?) to a CBS employee, and another time because the contestant was on the show before (prior to contestants being eligible once every 10 years).

I can see how TPTB can overlook that.  They're pretty good with their background checks so the relation could've been accidental.  I don't think it makes the contestant a bad person, maybe it's unknown to them.  However, those are the rules.

As for being on the show before, that's baffling.  In fact, assuming we'll be getting the rest of Season 11 along with seasons 12 & 13 soon, there is one contestant that showed up more than once
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on December 13, 2020, 04:38:52 PM
Thanks. This Pluto experience is very interesting for me. I have many memories of watching The Price is Right as a kid during the usual sick days and snow days. I have never seen the show since sometime before Bob's hair changed to white, never any new episodes or any reruns of the "brown hair era" episodes until now. There are many aspects of the game I remembered all my life, some of the catchphrases, some of the games, some of the rules. I never forgot the mountain climbing game with the yodeling or the big wheel of course. As I'm watching these episodes I feel completely familiar with the rhythm, such as the fact that there is a commercial break after the showcase bids are placed and before the winner is announced. Some of the games instantly ring a bell in my memory as I watch them on Pluto even if I had forgotten all about them, such as the check writing game, the safe crackers game, the poker game, the "ten chances" game, the "three strikes" game (distinctly remember seeing Bob jiggle the bag of discs), the game where the car tries to catch up to the other car, the running around to put price tags on four items game and really almost every game on this show.

But I have absolutely no memory of Plinko. As I heard people talking about it in the last couple weeks I was trying to remember what it was. I avoided looking up any videos of it so I'd see it for the first time during one of these episodes. But after seeing it, it doesn't ring a bell at all like the other games. I know it debuted in 1983. I wouldn't have guessed though that all of my memories of The Price is Right were from 1982 or earlier. That would mean age 6 was the highest age at which I watched it. In which case I may have only watched it before I started first grade. So maybe I didn't need a sick day to watch it. I know I went to kindergarten in the afternoon so I could've watched it in the morning before going. It's possible I watched it later and just never happened to catch Plinko. It's possible of course I saw it and forgot it. I definitely watched game shows in my youth that didn't even debut until after 1982 like Press Your Luck and Super Password. I already knew I didn't watch it after 1987 but now feel like I may never have watched it from 1983 onward.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 13, 2020, 07:04:06 PM
I'm just gonna throw up a request here:  Does anyone have videos of the four shows they've skipped?  We're missing 4633D, 4733D, 4775D, and 4784D.  I know at least the first two are in people's tape collections.

(I'm not bothering asking for premiere week -- I don't know of anyone having them, and I think it's fairly likely they're somehow under the contract for Season 10 and will show up if the channel ever gets back that far.)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 07:11:02 PM
I'm just gonna throw up a request here:  Does anyone have videos of the four shows they've skipped?  We're missing 4633D, 4733D, 4775D, and 4784D.  I know at least the first two are in people's tape collections.

(I'm not bothering asking for premiere week -- I don't know of anyone having them, and I think it's fairly likely they're somehow under the contract for Season 10 and will show up if the channel ever gets back that far.)

Why do you think that they'd be under the Season 10 contract? Accident? And I didn't think GSN ever aired that week, that accurate?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 07:16:23 PM
Streamable of the interaction in question: https://streamable.com/f052ns

You're awesome, thank you! This was too good a segment to not be captured.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 13, 2020, 07:23:48 PM
Why do you think that they'd be under the Season 10 contract? Accident?

It's not unprecedented for there to be a little weirdness in the paperwork for the very beginning of a season, and I think it's a little more likely than the entire week suffering tape damage.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 13, 2020, 07:55:32 PM
Just like Edwin’s Lucky 7 blowout, this was a moment I was not sure I would ever see again, and I have never talked to anyone else who remembers it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YERfsQG4Hs4&fbclid=IwAR3rWoT-zuP67bDswLmdWDbFKT5dHMxfpvzY5W6PaI6fcASpz6g98OF66Tg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YERfsQG4Hs4&fbclid=IwAR3rWoT-zuP67bDswLmdWDbFKT5dHMxfpvzY5W6PaI6fcASpz6g98OF66Tg)

The main event is that they haul out a diagram, complete with pointer, of how Check Game works, but this is also worth watching for a reference to Plinko as an as-yet unseen-by-the-public game.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 08:12:59 PM
Just like Edwin’s Lucky 7 blowout, this was a moment I was not sure I would ever see again, and I have never talked to anyone else who remembers it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YERfsQG4Hs4&fbclid=IwAR3rWoT-zuP67bDswLmdWDbFKT5dHMxfpvzY5W6PaI6fcASpz6g98OF66Tg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YERfsQG4Hs4&fbclid=IwAR3rWoT-zuP67bDswLmdWDbFKT5dHMxfpvzY5W6PaI6fcASpz6g98OF66Tg)

The main event is that they haul out a diagram, complete with pointer, of how Check Game works, but this is also worth watching for a reference to Plinko as an as-yet unseen-by-the-public game.

That was posted here before via streamable, but nice to see they posted it as well.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: blozier2006 on December 13, 2020, 08:47:59 PM
I've noticed the references to "unairable copies" in the Timeline, and it got me thinking... is it possible that instead of outright "skipping over" those four shows, that they might be saving them for a specific occasion? I ask since I've seen Buzzr "set aside" shows in that same manner for different gimmick events (the upcoming Betty White Christmas week, for instance), and since we think the same people in charge of Buzzr are running the Pluto channel, it's conceivable that the same thing may be taking place here as well.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 09:02:38 PM
I've noticed the references to "unairable copies" in the Timeline, and it got me thinking... is it possible that instead of outright "skipping over" those four shows, that they might be saving them for a specific occasion? I ask since I've seen Buzzr "set aside" shows in that same manner for different gimmick events (the upcoming Betty White Christmas week, for instance), and since we think the same people in charge of Buzzr are running the Pluto channel, it's conceivable that the same thing may be taking place here as well.

Maybe, but why those 4 I'd wonder, as they were/are seemingly random episodes? I don't know that I'd understand the connection, unless something is special about them that I don't know about. Can anyone fill me in if that's the case?

If they were gonna withhold any, the Christmas week shows woulda been ones I'd have thought they may skip for a couple weeks so they'd air right at Christmas directly, but they aired those, so.....I don't know that I'd think this is holding over for something.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 13, 2020, 09:26:16 PM
That was posted here before via streamable, but nice to see they posted it as well.

They didn't.  That's Chad Mosher.

I've noticed the references to "unairable copies" in the Timeline, and it got me thinking... is it possible that instead of outright "skipping over" those four shows, that they might be saving them for a specific occasion? I ask since I've seen Buzzr "set aside" shows in that same manner for different gimmick events (the upcoming Betty White Christmas week, for instance), and since we think the same people in charge of Buzzr are running the Pluto channel, it's conceivable that the same thing may be taking place here as well.

I mean, it's possible, and I hope you're right, because I don't want any of the shows to be lost, but I can't figure why they'd do it.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on December 13, 2020, 10:04:05 PM
I'm just gonna throw up a request here:  Does anyone have videos of the four shows they've skipped?  We're missing 4633D, 4733D, 4775D, and 4784D.  I know at least the first two are in people's tape collections.

Consider this one a bonus from me for anyone reading this post - 4733D (12/29/1982): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xxKiadwDIF9b-tXwiy3U-DoNBKx01NQU/view?usp=sharing

It's also a great case study for the edits GSN made to a typical ep (the runtime comes in a minute shorter) vs. what Fremantle is playing out for Pluto.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 10:27:58 PM
Consider this one a bonus from me for anyone reading this post - 4733D (12/29/1982): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xxKiadwDIF9b-tXwiy3U-DoNBKx01NQU/view?usp=sharing

It's also a great case study for the edits GSN made to a typical ep (the runtime comes in a minute shorter) vs. what Fremantle is playing out for Pluto.

Speaking about edits.....I noticed some of the later episodes Pluto aired had edits coming out of the break akin to what GSN did for Bob Barker Fun & Games promos.....did they cut those out in these cases or was it something else that was? I know they edited out a soap star's appearance on the October 28th episode that GSN didn't for some reason, but I don't suspect it was anything like that.

Also....I bet most of the time GSN cut woulda been connected to fee plugs, the CNAOS ones specifically. The plugs in 1995 ran about 35 seconds or, so at would be at least half that minute or so, more for episodes with the Fun & Games Promos too.

Thanks for the upload BTW  :-)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 10:41:12 PM
For anyone interested in the above episode.....Bob nearly created a potential for a technical win in Game #2, Most Expensive. He said to the contestant Keith, that he needed to pick which one of the 3 prizes offered was the least expensive, before someone in the audience shouted out to correct him. If that hadn't been caught and Keith had went on to lose, I would bet he woulda been awarded the prizes after the fact because of it.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on December 13, 2020, 10:44:51 PM
Buzzr/Fremantle is notorious for skipping episodes on all of the series they air. There have been lots of reasons speculated for it but I don't think they've ever publicly said why any particular episode was skipped. Some episodes of Tattletales seem to be skipped for celebrity clearance issues (I think Bob Newhart episodes never air). Fremantle may have edited the General Hospital celebrity out of that TPIR episode so they didn't have to bother getting permission from that actor to air it (or they didn't have enough time to get it cleared). I've seen an episode of Press Your Luck that they skipped on YouTube that came from another network's airing and the picture did have some major segments with distortion in it. Buzzr sometimes bleeps out words from episodes that are now considered politically incorrect but weren't back then ("midget," "oriental") and there have been instances where an episode with one of those words in it was skipped completely. One time they aired a Password Plus episode with "Ku Klux Klan" as a puzzle answer but apparently they received complaints and they now skip that episode every time they rerun that week. Music rights are the other big reason episodes seem to be skipped. Apparently, a number of Classic Concentration episodes have been skipped that were from special weeks where popular songs were used to jazz up the episodes. Music rights obviously seem to not be an issue on Pluto although it is still possible there are certain musicians who don't cooperate with Pluto. The aforementioned Tattletales seems to be one of the most afflicted series. From what I've seen, at least one out of every 4 weeks of the series they air has anywhere from 1 to 4 episodes skipped. They do sometimes skip episodes to hold them back to air during a special event broadcast, but that's less common than episodes that are completely skipped and never air.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 13, 2020, 11:21:54 PM
This is going back to shows aired, but does anyone know of the 100 they've run/are repeating now, if any have had a DSW win? Having watched much of the 1st 2 weeks before they went all new/different shows vs. cycling, I didn't see any there so unless I missed one I don't think there were any in those first 48, but what about the last 52 they ran? Any there that anyone woulda caught?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 13, 2020, 11:38:30 PM
There was one on 4682D, which aired on the third episode of the last 52, at 8 AM EST on 12/11. We already knew about that DSW, however.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: CaseyBuck on December 13, 2020, 11:51:04 PM
Slight theory: did they skip 4733D because they thought the rickshaw as the 1st IUFB was offensive? Granted, some of Bob's comments that they have aired aren't exactly squeaky-clean, either...
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: vnisanian2001 on December 13, 2020, 11:53:54 PM
How could a rickshaw be "offensive"?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 14, 2020, 12:03:30 AM
There was one on 4682D, which aired on the third episode of the last 52, at 8 AM EST on 12/11. We already knew about that DSW, however.

I didn't actually, but cool thank you, that would reair let's see...4PM EST Tuesday if I did my math right. Will make a note of that.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on December 14, 2020, 12:20:32 AM
Slight theory: did they skip 4733D because they thought the rickshaw as the 1st IUFB was offensive? Granted, some of Bob's comments that they have aired aren't exactly squeaky-clean, either...

I don't see how that'd be more offensive than that one busty woman the other day who wore a shirt that said "I LOVE BOOB BARKER", or that woman who slipped out of her sandals while running up on stage and Bob was excitedly telling her to "show off your footies" while they kept showing close-ups of them.  8-O
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Spmahn on December 14, 2020, 01:37:58 AM
Buzzr aired that episode of PYL where the contestant loudly yells MFer when he hits the whammy, so they aren’t adverse to content issues. It’s weird that they’d have to get clearances from celebrities who appear on the shows as well, you’d think they’d sign a release that would stay in effect in perpetuity, but maybe it’s a union thing for anyone who appears on a show who is a member of SAG or whatever.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FPGWillyT on December 14, 2020, 03:14:54 AM
This is going back to shows aired, but does anyone know of the 100 they've run/are repeating now, if any have had a DSW win? Having watched much of the 1st 2 weeks before they went all new/different shows vs. cycling, I didn't see any there so unless I missed one I don't think there were any in those first 48, but what about the last 52 they ran? Any there that anyone woulda caught?

Yes.  At least one.  Go back up and find my FINALLY reply.  Posted it shorty after it “aired”, if you want a time frame.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 14, 2020, 03:25:37 AM
Yes.  At least one.  Go back up and find my FINALLY reply.  Posted it shorty after it “aired”, if you want a time frame.

Yeah I saw that, someone else answered before you, I appreciate it though.   :-)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on December 14, 2020, 03:45:41 AM
Slight theory: did they skip 4733D because they thought the rickshaw as the 1st IUFB was offensive? Granted, some of Bob's comments that they have aired aren't exactly squeaky-clean, either...

Just watched the episode as it was posted here. I wasn't sure if the rickshaw would do it. Then when I saw the oriental rug come up as a prize, I said A-HA, that's it. I guarantee you the episode was skipped because of the oriental rug. I expect Fremantle will ban any episodes offering an oriental rug from airing as fast as Bob Barker banned the episodes with fur coats.

Although it may not make sense to a lot of people, the term "oriental" has become controversial enough that in 2016 a federal law was passed to ban the term from being used in any form by the government. See the quote:

"[Oriental] is an insulting term that needed to be removed from the books, and I am extremely pleased that my legislation to do that is now the law of the land,” Meng said in a statement."

In my research to understand the controversy around this term when I saw Buzzr was blocking it, it appeared that some people considered it offensive when it was used to describe people. It wasn't necessarily supposed to be offensive when used to describe objects. But as usual when it comes to censorship, the common sense and nuance of the situation is abandoned in favor of a blanket ban, just to "be safe." But for all I know, the people who first started questioning the word now consider it offensive no matter in what context it's used. The word has gone through an evolution in which it's now considered taboo and people in the media are "scared" enough to want to avoid the word completely.

No, Buzzr doesn't execute their policies perfectly and sometimes an episode slips through with the word "oriental" or with other words they wouldn't normally allow on the air. But those are mistakes and not their policy.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 14, 2020, 04:23:47 AM
Just watched the episode as it was posted here. I wasn't sure if the rickshaw would do it. Then when I saw the oriental rug come up as a prize, I said A-HA, that's it. I guarantee you the episode was skipped because of the oriental rug. I expect Fremantle will ban any episodes offering an oriental rug from airing as fast as Bob Barker banned the episodes with fur coats.

Although it may not make sense to a lot of people, the term "oriental" has become controversial enough that in 2016 a federal law was passed to ban the term from being used in any form by the government. See the quote:

"[Oriental] is an insulting term that needed to be removed from the books, and I am extremely pleased that my legislation to do that is now the law of the land,” Meng said in a statement."

In my research to understand the controversy around this term when I saw Buzzr was blocking it, it appeared that some people considered it offensive when it was used to describe people. It wasn't necessarily supposed to be offensive when used to describe objects. But as usual when it comes to censorship, the common sense and nuance of the situation is abandoned in favor of a blanket ban, just to "be safe." But for all I know, the people who first started questioning the word now consider it offensive no matter in what context it's used. The word has gone through an evolution in which it's now considered taboo and people in the media are "scared" enough to want to avoid the word completely.

No, Buzzr doesn't execute their policies perfectly and sometimes an episode slips through with the word "oriental" or with other words they wouldn't normally allow on the air. But those are mistakes and not their policy.

No disrespect but....I think this is stretching things even for 2020, but then again as to put it politely....wild as this year as has been, let alone those before it even in ways, not much would shock me anymore. I don't even know if I heard the word oriental come up honestly watching but might be off on that.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on December 14, 2020, 05:31:20 AM
[Theory about oriental rug being the reason for the missing episodes]

Nice thinking, but no. Not only have I seen "Oriental" furniture on Sale of the Century on Buzzr several times, but there was definitely an "Oriental" desk that popped up several times (actually one should have popped up again literally an hour or two ago), and if you want to watch again, at around 12:50 AM tomorrow, 12/15, the second Showcase of 4655D will have an Oriental rug. I think I have video of that one, and might post it early if I remember about it.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Spmahn on December 14, 2020, 08:27:08 AM
There’s absolutely no way it has anything to do with the word Oriental, there have been Oriental rugs and desks, and everything else all over these shows. For episodes 4633 and 4733, since we know those aired on GSN, you can probably chalk those up to issues with digitizing the episodes that they have to go back and fix. Maybe we’ll see them some day, maybe we won’t. For 4775 and 4784, if we don’t think those circulate amongst collectors and aren’t certain if they ever aired on GSN, it’s anyones guess, but the most likely issue would be damage to the master tapes that make them unairable.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 14, 2020, 09:23:13 AM
You know, I think it genuinely irritated Barker when people didn't know how to price season tickets to sports events based on the numbers of home games each teams played. How long did they go on using those tickets as prizes? I only think they tried it for a few years. 
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on December 14, 2020, 09:28:13 AM
You know, I think it genuinely irritated Barker when people didn't know how to price season tickets to sports events based on the numbers of home games each teams played. How long did they go on using those tickets as prizes? I only think they tried it for a few years.

Couldn't that be deceiving though in a way? I'd almost wonder if that woulda been part of why they stopped trying it as much as anything.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 14, 2020, 10:05:24 AM
Couldn't that be deceiving though in a way? I'd almost wonder if that woulda been part of why they stopped trying it as much as anything.

I don't think so; it just required more specialized knowledge than the show usually called for. I never liked the idea of using them as stage game prizes; season tickets were better as IUFBs (where someone was guaranteed to win them) or showcase prizes (where they were a small part of an overall prize package).
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Post by: Spmahn on December 14, 2020, 10:22:09 AM
What confuses me about the season tickets prizes is that they’re only of value to people who live in the immediate greater Los Angeles area, and even by 82/83, a good portion of the contestants were from all over the country. If a person from Milwaukee wins season tickets for LA sports teams, you’re essentially guaranteeing that they’re going to forfeit the prize, unless they had a suitable alternative for those people.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 14, 2020, 10:32:44 AM
What confuses me about the season tickets prizes is that they’re only of value to people who live in the immediate greater Los Angeles area, and even by 82/83, a good portion of the contestants were from all over the country. If a person from Milwaukee wins season tickets for LA sports teams, you’re essentially guaranteeing that they’re going to forfeit the prize, unless they had a suitable alternative for those people.

I never had thought about it before till recently, but it's a valid point. Bob had actually asked a contestant on one of the Race Game playings that aired w/these as the prizes recently where she lived after the fact, to see if she'd be able to make good use of them (she won 2 of the 4). She did live relatively close to LA area, so was no issue for her, but that was the first time I really had noticed this potential problem.
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Post by: LarryC on December 14, 2020, 10:35:28 AM
Does anyone have any idea when episode # 4734D (aired Dec. 30, 1982) will air again?  It aired this past Saturday morning on Pluto, and I'm hoping they air it again this week.

In that episode:  The contestant who played Money Game (Linda) said she'd give the car to her son if she won it.  She did, and she did.  It was one of the most heartwarming things I've ever seen on the show, and want to see it again.
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 14, 2020, 10:47:48 AM
I have heard it said that the show gave the equivalent money value of the tickets rather that the actual tickets. I don’t know the source of that info.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 14, 2020, 11:06:40 AM
Does anyone have any idea when episode # 4734D (aired Dec. 30, 1982) will air again?  It aired this past Saturday morning on Pluto, and I'm hoping they air it again this week.

In that episode:  The contestant who played Money Game (Linda) said she'd give the car to her son if she won it.  She did, and she did.  It was one of the most heartwarming things I've ever seen on the show, and want to see it again.


Sometime tomorrow I think.  I don't have the tentative schedule (or a tentative schedule) in front of me now, but when I get a chance I'll post the exact time (if no one does so before then).  However, I'm paying close attention to the main pages & timeline for the Pluto TV Barker Era Site; things are subject to change.  For example, the awesome news that we might get another run of episodes sooner rather than later.

As for the tickets for sporting events.  I used to like them as well, but I too could leave it.  It would have been an awful idea if they continued with that (which would've been impossible by 1995 anyway).  I think they used it for Take Two once upon a time, but that might've been a dream (or nightmare)


Edited to add a link to a guide (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,31731.0.html) (courtesy of JediJones in addition to scorpz & GSC) for what episodes aired when and when to expect certain episodes to air again.  It doesn't list future airings, but if you use a spreadsheet or something else, it's rather easy to figure out, barring any changes as it relates to the next 100 episodes coming soon
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on December 14, 2020, 11:25:33 AM
Hardest of all, they have used season tickets in Danger Price.
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Post by: Briguy on December 14, 2020, 11:44:24 AM
What confuses me about the season tickets prizes is that they’re only of value to people who live in the immediate greater Los Angeles area, and even by 82/83, a good portion of the contestants were from all over the country. If a person from Milwaukee wins season tickets for LA sports teams, you’re essentially guaranteeing that they’re going to forfeit the prize, unless they had a suitable alternative for those people.

Wasn't it that in the Drew Carey era if they offered season tickets to a professional sports franchise it was to the team of your choice, so as to serve contestants who might not live in the Los Angeles area (or even be fans of Los Angeles teams).

Kind of like Classic Concentration, where the prize was "Season Tickets To Your Favorite Team" ... while that might imply that the tickets were to be for a professional team, it could mean college or even high school. No one team was specified.

Brian
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Post by: SuperMatch93 on December 14, 2020, 01:01:06 PM
I think they used it for Take Two once upon a time, but that might've been a dream (or nightmare)

They did indeed, and it aired the other day. Not surprisingly, it was lost.
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Post by: JediJones on December 14, 2020, 02:36:17 PM
Nice thinking, but no. Not only have I seen "Oriental" furniture on Sale of the Century on Buzzr several times, but there was definitely an "Oriental" desk that popped up several times (actually one should have popped up again literally an hour or two ago), and if you want to watch again, at around 12:50 AM tomorrow, 12/15, the second Showcase of 4655D will have an Oriental rug.

Censoring the word "oriental" is something I believe Buzzr has started doing in the last two or so years. If the episode was digitized earlier than that, it will still air uncensored. They haven't gone back to recheck episodes they've transferred in the past. I have seen Password episodes where the word "oriental" is silenced out. Like I said before, these rules are not applied consistently at all. Even on newly digitized episodes, the word may be censored in some episodes and make it through in others. It may simply depend on how well the person transferring the episode is paying attention. Anyway, this is the perpetual mystery of Buzzr. No one is ever really sure why certain episodes are skipped. But "oriental" is definitely something they are sometimes singling out as needing to be edited out.
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Post by: blozier2006 on December 14, 2020, 02:38:25 PM
No one is ever really sure why certain episodes are skipped.
Then why are you getting into pointless speculation?
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Post by: Spmahn on December 14, 2020, 03:16:01 PM
Censoring the word "oriental" is something I believe Buzzr has started doing in the last two or so years.

I’m not away of Buzzr ever pulling episodes because certain prizes are described as “Oriental”. The only show I am aware of that Buzzr commonly pulls episodes from out of Rotation is Match Game episodes where Gene and the gang knocked back a few too many stiff drinks and started making some not so kind jokes about gay people and the handicapped.
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Post by: BillyGr on December 14, 2020, 03:41:40 PM
Wasn't it that in the Drew Carey era if they offered season tickets to a professional sports franchise it was to the team of your choice, so as to serve contestants who might not live in the Los Angeles area (or even be fans of Los Angeles teams).

Kind of like Classic Concentration, where the prize was "Season Tickets To Your Favorite Team" ... while that might imply that the tickets were to be for a professional team, it could mean college or even high school. No one team was specified.

Brian

Perhaps they actually did something similar in these older shows, just without saying so?  Having a fixed team would be easier to have an actual price to use where it mattered in a game/showcase (since it's likely to vary among teams in any sport, some being more popular than others), but they could substitute another team if someone won and wasn't close enough to use that one (as they weren't actually buying the tickets in advance, just knowing what they would cost).
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: tpiradam on December 14, 2020, 03:57:47 PM
They've probably aired the September 17th episode at least four times now and each time it's on I've missed the first half. Judging by Judith's big total at the end I'm guessing she won It's Optional but if she reacted in such a way to winning a truck I can imagine she'd be just as if not more excited over winning two cars. Also interesting that aside from November 23rd there's yet to be a DSW especially considering the season following already had at least three by that time.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 14, 2020, 04:44:15 PM
They did indeed, and it aired the other day. Not surprisingly, it was lost.

Were all 4 ever even won? Would anyone know for sure?
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 14, 2020, 04:49:10 PM
They've probably aired the September 17th episode at least four times now and each time it's on I've missed the first half. Judging by Judith's big total at the end I'm guessing she won It's Optional but if she reacted in such a way to winning a truck I can imagine she'd be just as if not more excited over winning two cars. Also interesting that aside from November 23rd there's yet to be a DSW especially considering the season following already had at least three by that time.

Would they have struggled to get DSW's in the less than $100 era much, relative to the $250 or less? I'd wonder if even before they decided to up it if it was a problem, given just 1 in this batch of shows. But could be an anomaly given what you say about them having at least 3 at same point the following season.
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Post by: tpiradam on December 14, 2020, 04:58:57 PM
Would they have struggled to get DSW's in the less than $100 era much, relative to the $250 or less? I'd wonder if even before they decided to up it if it was a problem, given just 1 in this batch of shows. But could be an anomaly given what you say about them having at least 3 at same point the following season.

The frequency of a DSW can vary. There can be instances such as Season 12, Season 34 or Season 39 having three within a month or there can be a large drought such as Seasons 25, 26, 45 and 47 or they can be spread out during a season such as Season 31 and 33. Frankly I'd think it would be slightly easier during the era that Pluto TV is currently airing considering the number of Splendido and Department Store Showcases and the multitudes of Ford Escorts and Mazda GLCs.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 14, 2020, 05:10:18 PM
The frequency of a DSW can vary. There can be instances such as Season 12, Season 34 or Season 39 having three within a month or there can be a large drought such as Seasons 25, 26, 45 and 47 or they can be spread out during a season such as Season 31 and 33. Frankly I'd think it would be slightly easier during the era that Pluto TV is currently airing considering the number of Splendido and Department Store Showcases and the multitudes of Ford Escorts and Mazda GLCs.

I've noticed a LOT of repeating to that end in general. I almost have to laugh at how often I have heard the phrase "It's a Ceiling Fan Light!" in One-Bid Rounds, seems like they come up/came up all the time there back then.
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Post by: tpiradam on December 14, 2020, 05:14:47 PM
I've noticed a LOT of repeating to that end in general. I almost have to laugh at how often I have heard the phrase "It's a Ceiling Fan Light!" in One-Bid Rounds, seems like they come up/came up all the time there back then.

It makes me miss some of the prizes from these episodes on some current shows. I personally would love a grandfather clock, ceiling fan or other odd things like that but then again I'm an old soul.
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Post by: name456 on December 14, 2020, 06:48:39 PM
I bought and installed a ceiling fan just the other day. Very useful prize, far better than designer shoes.
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Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on December 14, 2020, 07:02:18 PM
I have been tempted to start a blog of "really, really bad prizes the price is right used to offer"...because some of the prizes are just...wow.

For the record- I would totally rock some designer shoes and would love a ceiling fan (my apt has two). Not so much a grandfather clock.
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Post by: Bee17 on December 14, 2020, 07:42:00 PM
Watching these older episodes, Bob mentioned something called "The Bob Barker Fun & Games Show". Can anyone clue me in on what that's about?
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Post by: djsquare on December 14, 2020, 08:00:47 PM
I bought and installed a ceiling fan just the other day. Very useful prize, far better than designer shoes.
You need a fan, you buy a fan. Women dream of $1000 shoes, but they don't buy them. They win them? They are happy.
But what about those trash compactors?  :oldlol:
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Post by: Spmahn on December 14, 2020, 08:21:11 PM
Watching these older episodes, Bob mentioned something called "The Bob Barker Fun & Games Show". Can anyone clue me in on what that's about?

It was a live show that was more akin to Truth or Consequences than TPIR
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Post by: gamesurf on December 14, 2020, 09:18:35 PM
Yes, it was a live show that travelled around the country. It wasn't ever televised AFAICT, but it was a semi-popular live attraction.

If you want to know more, this writeup is a nice quick recap of one of Bob's shows from 1978. (https://www.nytimes.com/1978/06/05/archives/tv-pitchman-is-packing-them-in-with-an-offcamera-game-show-seream.html).
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Post by: supersaver87 on December 15, 2020, 12:42:41 AM
I have seen Password episodes where the word "oriental" is silenced out.

You have? Which ones? The only episode I'm aware of that got blatantly edited was the 8/26/85 episode of Super Password. The Ca$hword was "Minstrel", and Gautier gave the clue "blackface". Buzzr lopped out that entire Ca$hword, so it cut to commercial very awkwardly.
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Post by: thepriceis_J on December 15, 2020, 02:02:59 AM
You have? Which ones? The only episode I'm aware of that got blatantly edited was the 8/26/85 episode of Super Password. The Ca$hword was "Minstrel", and Gautier gave the clue "blackface". Buzzr lopped out that entire Ca$hword, so it cut to commercial very awkwardly.
Well, there was I believe the self-censoring done by Password Plus or NBC before it went to air where the clue was, I think, "Mafia" and they blacked out the word and all the clues used to get it. It was a very awkward stretch. I can't recall any Buzzr edits besides this mentioned one.

Buzzr has also edited out references to "midget" (on some shows, but not others) as the word has been seen as derogatory, understandably. There is a brand of small car offered on Cullen Price that goes by the name of "King M-----" and each time it appears, Buzzr drops out the audio at its mention.
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Post by: supersaver87 on December 15, 2020, 02:22:51 AM
Well, there was I believe the self-censoring done by Password Plus or NBC before it went to air where the clue was, I think, "Mafia" and they blacked out the word and all the clues used to get it. It was a very awkward stretch.

You're right, that one was pretty awkward to watch. GSN aired that episode, Buzzr did not.
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Post by: tpcrotty2 on December 15, 2020, 08:50:05 AM
To answer the question as to whether the season tickets for all four LA sports teams was ever won, YES.

They are all won playing Danger Price in this episode from 1977: 
Also, they were all won playing Race Game at least once on April 9, 1982.  Does anyone have video of this or another time they were won (if there were any)?
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Post by: Briguy on December 15, 2020, 11:41:16 AM
To answer the question as to whether the season tickets for all four LA sports teams was ever won, YES.

They are all won playing Danger Price in this episode from 1977: 
Also, they were all won playing Race Game at least once on April 9, 1982.  Does anyone have video of this or another time they were won (if there were any)?

IIRC, there were multiple times where, when played in Race Game, one or two sets of season tickets were won, but not all four.

Brian
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Post by: Nick on December 15, 2020, 04:31:27 PM
Here's one I've been wondering now.  Was Season 12 when Barker stopped wearing three-piece suits, or did it happen sooner than that?  In the shows from the spring of '81 that have been going around he was still wearing them, but by fall of '82, they're gone.

I have heard it said that the show gave the equivalent money value of the tickets rather that the actual tickets. I don’t know the source of that info.

Roger indicated to me once that this is indeed what they did.
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Post by: Archviler on December 15, 2020, 07:22:07 PM
I'm late to the party I'm sure, but I just caught a few of those old episodes. It's amazing flashback, both in style and in cultural feel. There's so many little things that make it feel like a different age.

I'll have to catch more, especially as they press further into the 80s.
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Post by: Disneyfreak on December 15, 2020, 07:36:52 PM
Hi!!  I saw a few minutes ago PlutoTV will show Christmas episodes on Christmas Day.  I'm looking forward to it.  I have one episode taped in 1986 on VHS from Game Show Network. 
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 15, 2020, 07:39:52 PM
Hi!!  I saw a few minutes ago PlutoTV will show Christmas episodes on Christmas Day.  I'm looking forward to it.  I have one episode taped in 1986 on VHS from Game Show Network.

Did they specify what ones they'd be running? It's not just the Christmas shows from Season 11 already aired is it?
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Post by: Disneyfreak on December 15, 2020, 07:46:06 PM
No they didn't, not sure which seasons they'll show the episodes though. 
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 15, 2020, 07:54:56 PM
No they didn't, not sure which seasons they'll show the episodes though.

Ok, let's say it this way then, did they show footage of any episodes from after the classic padded Orange and Purple turntable was a permanent fixture, or any that saw Bob with Gray Hair? That'd be one way to tell if they were showing anything past this current season or not.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 15, 2020, 07:57:38 PM
There was some discussion here earlier on about how they'll proceed with Christmas on Pluto.  It would be pretty neat if they ran the Christmas shows from 1982-1996 & 1998-2006.  Maybe they'll focus on 80s episodes but I wouldn't be surprised if they focused on Season 11 and reran it all day
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 15, 2020, 08:00:50 PM
There was some discussion here earlier on about how they'll proceed with Christmas on Pluto.  It would be pretty neat if they ran the Christmas shows from 1982-1996 & 1998-2006.  Maybe they'll focus on 80s episodes but I wouldn't be surprised if they focused on Season 11 and reran it all day

I wouldn't either. I'm still surprised they ran them already, even in overnight hours, if they do just air those only. Woulda thought they'd wanna save them.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 15, 2020, 08:12:45 PM
Sidenote, maybe this was asked before, but why were there no Christmas shows in 1997? Kinda peculiar.
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Post by: JediJones on December 15, 2020, 09:31:16 PM
You have? Which ones?

I don't have the details on it. I didn't make a note of it. I believe it was a fairly recent "fresh" episode to Buzzr of Password Plus or Super Password and that "oriental" was given as a clue, possibly in the "speed round" section of the game. My antennae were already up over what words might be censored when I noticed the word blanked out. And from the context I believe I was able to deduce that it was likely the word "oriental." But, yes, this is all memory here so I can't guarantee I'm not mixing up either the word that was censored or the fact that it was censored.

For some clearer evidence that "oriental" is sometimes censored on Buzzr, see this exchange from the Game Show Paradise forums. I also saw the below mentioned episode of Split Second on Buzzr and remember seeing this occur:

https://gsparadise.proboards.com/thread/952/buzzrtv-discussion?page=250

Re: BuzzrTV discussion

Oct 19, 2019 at 2:21pm by traderrob on Oct 19, 2019 at 2:21pm
vahan
Oct 15, 2019 at 10:05am vahan said:
Anyone got the Game TV airing of today's episode of Split Second? Seems like Buzzr felt something was offensive and muted what Claudette said when asked which group of foreign students found it the toughest to learn English. She said "____ students or Arabic speakers".

I believe she said "oriental"
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Post by: COINBOYNYC on December 15, 2020, 10:32:32 PM
I think it genuinely irritated Barker when people didn't know how to price season tickets to sports events based on the numbers of home games each teams played.

I don't think casual fans, fans who might just go to a few games each year, would have any idea of how much a team's season tickets would go for.  To casual fans, the idea of buying season tickets and going to every game wouldn't enter their mind.  In that context, it's unreasonable to expect them to know how to figure out the price.

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Post by: name456 on December 15, 2020, 10:38:10 PM
Casual fans should know the Rams would be the cheapest, since they only play eight regular season home games. I can see the others being more difficult (the Dodgers play the most but baseball games are generally cheaper than basketball and hockey).
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on December 15, 2020, 10:42:11 PM
Casual fans should know the Rams would be the cheapest, since they only play eight regular season home games.

Casual fans might not even register that away games are a thing, especially if they're in the middle of playing Race Game.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 16, 2020, 12:12:29 AM
Ok, let's say it this way then, did they show footage of any episodes from after the classic padded Orange and Purple turntable was a permanent fixture, or any that saw Bob with Gray Hair? That'd be one way to tell if they were showing anything past this current season or not.

They just show that promo.  Looks like everything was from Season 11.  Nothing with Gray Hair Bob, which obviously means no shows after Season 15 right now.  I'm totally okay with that.  Way too soon for Barker-Era price post 1986-1987. 

I wouldn't be shocked if they were able to throw in something from Seasons 12 & 13, maybe even 15 (I expect that season before 14), but I'm not that optimistic.  I think they'd want to run those episodes at least once or twice along with the season in which those Christmas episodes took place before adding them in for a holiday marathon.  Moreover, I don't even know if they've been formatted/edited and if they're ready to be broadcast as of December 16, 2020
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Post by: NickintheATL on December 16, 2020, 12:39:43 AM
Sidenote, maybe this was asked before, but why were there no Christmas shows in 1997? Kinda peculiar.

No, it wasn't peculiar. Quite often during the 80s and 90s they would rerun the previous season's Xmas shows instead of tape new ones. It probably saved money on the set budget that season.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 16, 2020, 01:30:19 AM
No, it wasn't peculiar. Quite often during the 80s and 90s they would rerun the previous season's Xmas shows instead of tape new ones. It probably saved money on the set budget that season.

Touche, didn't realize just how common it was till looking at FAQ, from the post previous thought it was an anomaly more.

This does beg an interesting question though. In 1985...say Johnny didn't die, would they have still done a Christmas week do you think? I noticed there wasn't one, and I suspect that was much of why which would make sense.
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Post by: wpghi5 on December 16, 2020, 04:25:32 AM
Also, they were all won playing Race Game at least once on April 9, 1982. 

That happened 1 day after I was born! Lol!  :-D
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Post by: MrPlinko on December 16, 2020, 08:42:11 AM
Yes!

Beautiful transfers of the taps to Pluto TV. Amazing quality!  How many episodes a day are they doing that are not rerun? We seem to be getting almost everything unedited with the exception of the following:

1.) No ticket plugs
2.) Years edited out of car descriptions.
3.) No original "Pick a Pair" carousel music. What was the name of that theme?  I loved that music! Kind of disappointed that it was removed. Is this right? Or was the music added later?

Joe
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Post by: Casey on December 16, 2020, 08:48:10 AM
I’m not saying I know this, but it doesn’t make sense to me to pluck “1982” out of the car descriptions but leave all other references to the time period in place.  I mean we know it’s the 11th season because Bob has said so multiple times in the episodes we watched, and at least as far as I can tell, there isn’t a noticeable jump in the music or whatever during the car plug.

Isn’t it possible/likely that the car plug just didn’t include the year unless it was necessary?
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Post by: name456 on December 16, 2020, 08:56:53 AM
I believe the model year of the cars were not stated by 1982. I believe that ended in the late 70s. All of this talk makes me wish I didn’t tape over the shows after they originally aired (blank tape was expensive back then!)
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 16, 2020, 09:39:13 AM

3.) No original "Pick a Pair" carousel music. What was the name of that theme?  I loved that music! Kind of disappointed that it was removed. Is this right? Or was the music added later?



The music was added later, around the time the colors were updated
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Post by: Briguy on December 16, 2020, 10:22:27 AM
No, it wasn't peculiar. Quite often during the 80s and 90s they would rerun the previous season's Xmas shows instead of tape new ones. It probably saved money on the set budget that season.

And all these years I thought they simply taped the next year's Christmas shows the year prior. (Ergo, the shows that aired Christmas week 1990 were taped in December 1989, rather than September or October 1990.)

Brian
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 16, 2020, 02:06:57 PM
Touche, didn't realize just how common it was till looking at FAQ, from the post previous thought it was an anomaly more.

This does beg an interesting question though. In 1985...say Johnny didn't die, would they have still done a Christmas week do you think? I noticed there wasn't one, and I suspect that was much of why which would make sense.


If I had to bet, I think they do.  Though if Rod had been hired right away (or if they just had Gene succeed Johnny) I think they would've done a Christmas Week.  Probably wasn't ideal during the audition process that started (airing) over a week before Christmas
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 16, 2020, 06:21:42 PM

If I had to bet, I think they do.  Though if Rod had been hired right away (or if they just had Gene succeed Johnny) I think they would've done a Christmas Week.  Probably wasn't ideal during the audition process that started (airing) over a week before Christmas

I'm not sure if that woulda been the reason as much as them grieving Johnny's loss, to where they woulda not felt in the Christmas spirit enough to wanna do a series of shows like that so soon after his passing. That'd be my assumption anyway, but that may be wrong.
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Post by: GuyWithFace on December 16, 2020, 09:45:21 PM
The music was added [to Pick a Pair] later, around the time the colors were updated
The music was added at some point in between the recording of the December 21, 1984 episode and the end of the March 1985 tapings (as it can be heard in very early Tom Kennedy-hosted episodes).

The orange-to-blue changes occurred at some point in 1985, while Johnny was announcing. The orange set was seen at least twice on the Kennedy series.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 16, 2020, 09:54:51 PM
The music was added at some point in between the recording of the December 21, 1984 episode and the end of the March 1985 tapings (as it can be heard in very early Tom Kennedy-hosted episodes).

The orange-to-blue changes occurred at some point in 1985, while Johnny was announcing. The orange set was seen at least twice on the Kennedy series.

I wonder if they added it in just as the Nighttime series began, just because of it. I could see that.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 17, 2020, 01:36:00 AM
I'm not sure if that woulda been the reason as much as them grieving Johnny's loss, to where they woulda not felt in the Christmas spirit enough to wanna do a series of shows like that so soon after his passing. That'd be my assumption anyway, but that may be wrong.


You're right.  I doubt they would have done a full week of Christmas shows even with Rod.  Based on the schedule it would've been way too soon for any specials.

On a related note, as far as information related to Christmas shows, that was my fault.  I posted the years in which they would have done those.  As mentioned by Nicholas, it was common to use past seasons during when they could've had first-run Christmas episodes.  I knew from memory that they (pretty much) did nothing in Season 26.  Per the FAQ, the last show was right in the middle of the month.  In fact, in Season 27 they ended up rerunning Christmas stuff from Season 25!  Speaking of the FAQ:

The music was added at some point in between the recording of the December 21, 1984 episode and the end of the March 1985 tapings (as it can be heard in very early Tom Kennedy-hosted episodes).

The orange-to-blue changes occurred at some point in 1985, while Johnny was announcing. The orange set was seen at least twice on the Kennedy series.

Thank you.  I never recalled hearing it with Tom Kennedy.  Now that I think of it, it's for real!  I probably tuned it out, and that was somewhat due to the fact that Kennedy's version did several things different than the real version, specifically different think music.  While timeline didn't mention when the think music was added, the FAQ clearly stated that it preceded the blue color scheme.

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I wonder if they added it in just as the Nighttime series began, just because of it. I could see that.

Pricefan, that is a possibility.  Of course the mid 80s featured a ton of changes, at least a half-dozen made during the time nighttime PIR taped/aired.  Speaking of which, I wonder if GuyWithFace or someone else knows when the CBS curtains were changed from brown to maroon.  That was definitely done while Johnny was announcing but I can't pinpoint the exact date (between late 1984 and likely early 1985)
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 17, 2020, 02:24:16 AM
Pricefan, that is a possibility.  Of course the mid 80s featured a ton of changes, at least a half-dozen made during the time nighttime PIR taped/aired.  Speaking of which, I wonder if GuyWithFace or someone else knows when the CBS curtains were changed from brown to maroon.  That was definitely done while Johnny was announcing but I can't pinpoint the exact date (between late 1984 and likely early 1985)

Speaking of changes......what prompted the Purple border around CR before and into Tom's run for a bit? Anyone know?
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Post by: blozier2006 on December 17, 2020, 02:40:50 AM
Kennedy's version did several things different than the real daytime version
FTFY.
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Post by: GuyWithFace on December 17, 2020, 03:14:41 AM
Of course the mid 80s featured a ton of changes, at least a half-dozen made during the time nighttime PIR taped/aired.
At least eight Pricing Games that were played on the Kennedy series were physically altered in some form or fashion while that version was in production -- Danger Price, Golden Road, Grocery Game, Most Expensive, Pick a Pair, Range Game, Safe Crackers, and Switcheroo. Another, Grand Game, received its "Ten Thousand" and "Ten Thousand Dollars" graphics during this period.

Speaking of which, I wonder if GuyWithFace [...] knows when the CBS curtains were changed from brown to maroon. That was definitely done while Johnny was announcing but I can't pinpoint the exact date (between late 1984 and likely early 1985)
I do not know that, sorry.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 17, 2020, 08:00:23 AM
Speaking of changes......what prompted the Purple border around CR before and into Tom's run for a bit? Anyone know?

Not exactly sure; I guess the staff was going for an 80s look for CR.  IMO, that Pink (Neon or whatever) had an 80s feel to it.
 I liked it, but at the same time I didn't.  The green was okay, maybe they could gone with sky blue or turquoise.


FTFY.

Thanks...and sorry about that!  I meant to make that change but forgot (I did like that version actually and found myself loving & missing it upon a re-watch in the 90s).


At least eight Pricing Games that were played on the Kennedy series were physically altered in some form or fashion while that version was in production -- Danger Price, Golden Road, Grocery Game, Most Expensive, Pick a Pair, Range Game, Safe Crackers, and Switcheroo. Another, Grand Game, received its "Ten Thousand" and "Ten Thousand Dollars" graphics during this period.


Plus Card Game.  I knew about Danger Price, Safe Crackers, etc.  Wasn't sure about Most Expensive but I thought that was done earlier, might have been before they broke for the holidays.  Lucky Seven was later after all of those, I believe.

No worries about the CBS Curtains.  I guess we'll find out for sure in a month or two


With the show being on the air for nearly half a century (not counting the original version of course), some might not get into the win total (no one here on the boards) just outside casual fans.  For me, seeing someone win over $15,000 in Season 11 is still exciting.  Especially one woman who won big in her showcase (4761D I believe).  It just aired over the past 8 hours. 

That was probably one of, if not the most excited I've ever seen a contestant.  I've seen people rush to their cars or whatever was included in the showcase, but those occurred later on in the Barker Era.  I don't remember seeing that happen that early.  No one came from the studio audience to celebrate, but she ran from her podium to her showcase in about 1-2 seconds after Bob signed off.  That was great to see!
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Post by: pannoni1 on December 17, 2020, 09:21:36 AM
Speaking of the FAQ:

Pricefan, that is a possibility.  Of course the mid 80s featured a ton of changes, at least a half-dozen made during the time nighttime PIR taped/aired.  Speaking of which, I wonder if GuyWithFace or someone else knows when the CBS curtains were changed from brown to maroon.  That was definitely done while Johnny was announcing but I can't pinpoint the exact date (between late 1984 and likely early 1985)

The maroon CBS Eye curtains changed at the same time that the studio audience seats changed from teal to red, around late May/early June of 1985. There is at least one known Kennedy taping (taped April 1985) that has the new red audience seats along the side sections but with the old teal seats in the center section, which still had the gold CBS curtains. Its not known if this short-lived configuration appeared on the daytime show at this point, similar to the orange Contestants' Row displays with the new "rainbow" set in 1975 that only appeared on the nighttime show.

Speaking of changes, the Circle Wipes were actually added in two phases during January 1983: the first wipe used during the transition from Bob to the lights/audience on 1/6, and the second used during the transition from the audience back to Bob in front of the turntable on either 1/28 or 1/31, since the former is a skipped episode at this point.

Still, its neat seeing everything from bloopers like the Barker's Bargain Bar set turned off, to a $17 and change Check Out malfunction. $20,000 seems to be the "big winner" threshold for me at this point, and I've seen a few at this level so far, though the $15,000-$19,999 winners are still very good for this era. No cars under $6,000 at this point, and no perfect shows out of the 100 aired so far, though we've had quite a few 4/6 and 5/6 shows.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 17, 2020, 12:32:01 PM
Thanks pannoni!  We might be a couple months or so away (maybe a little more) from finding out if that configuration surfaced on the daytime show.  Pretty strange but I guess maybe they didn't get enough seat or have all the newer seats available at that time.


Missed the Sunday airing of 4783D (it was necessary to sleep in that day) but it can't be said enough (or I can't say it enough): these contestants are pretty awesome!  Especially Beverly, who might be the nicest contestant I've ever seen.  Maybe one of the nicest people on Planet Earth.  Such a good sport and at least for the most part, way energetic and was smiling throughout her appearances.  Such positive energy!  Her showcase bid was not good at all, but that's pretty much the only error she made.  Just a handful of 9th contestants that I honestly rooted for based on their great interaction with Bob.  It sucks given they have one chance but one of those cases where they get out of CR immediately.


A couple programming notes of interest:  The 100-episode cycle is about to end.  I'm optimistic that they'll proceed with 4792D (and if they do, we'll get the 12th Season Premiere by Monday).  However, I won't be surprised at all if we're getting 4581D again at 2:00 PM EST.  No mention was made from Pluto.

What Pluto did say was related to Christmas.  From their Twitter Feed & their Facebook page, on Christmas Day, Pluto is airing shows from 1982.  That's been confirmed.  It'll be December 17 and 20-24
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 17, 2020, 02:06:42 PM
A couple programming notes of interest:  The 100-episode cycle is about to end.  I'm optimistic that they'll proceed with 4792D (and if they do, we'll get the 12th Season Premiere by Monday).  However, I won't be surprised at all if we're getting 4581D again at 2:00 PM EST.  No mention was made from Pluto.

What Pluto did say was related to Christmas.  From their Twitter Feed & their Facebook page, on Christmas Day, Pluto is airing shows from 1982.  That's been confirmed.  It'll be December 17 and 20-24

They did indeed go back to 4581D from a quick check just now. And not surprised about Christmas, figured it was 1982 they'd run. I missed 1 and part of the 2nd though when they aired 1st time, so will look for em then if not sooner. Interesting they'd run the 17th show as part of that day too, but given the Christmas Home Viewer Showcase winner was announced that day it'd make sense.
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Post by: GuyWithFace on December 17, 2020, 03:26:08 PM
Plus Card Game.
Card Game was not played on the Kennedy series. (The full list of Pricing Games is present here (http://www.golden-road.net/gr_faq/index.php?title=General_Questions#Which_pricing_games_were_played_on_the_Kennedy_version.3F).)
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Post by: name456 on December 17, 2020, 03:46:26 PM
May or June 85 sounds right on the curtains. I remember Johnny only announced a handful of shows after the change. There was also a period of just a solid red behind him.
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Post by: C8 on December 17, 2020, 05:24:00 PM
Have these eps caused anyone to reevaluate their opinions on some of the games played at the time?

*For me, Its Optional has been a surprise. I love it. I think it's a ton of fun and an innovative idea (and love the set). It just seems too easy to win what would be a substantial amount of prizes (something like air conditioning and cruise control are obviously pricy whereas a lamp package is obviously cheap).

*Another surprise: Give or Keep. Simple idea, fun game. One of my favorite retired games is Buy or Sell and it gives me a similar vibe.

*Card Game is tedious no matter how its played but seems to be worse with no opening bid, no "any value" aces, and a limited big deck.

And Three Strikes was probably my favorite game growing up. Seeing it played regularly for regular cars (and regularly lost) has been interesting to say the least. Taking a more difficult concept and promoting it to special occasions makes a lot of sense and I think 3X works far better in that role.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 17, 2020, 05:30:27 PM
*Card Game is tedious no matter how its played but seems to be worse with no opening bid, no "any value" aces, and a limited big deck.

Product of its' time with cheaper cars....though the Ace rule surprises me for even then. The next batch of shows will see the New Card Game come up though, and the elimination of both aspects as a result.

Poker Game is one watching back I see why it got retired, even though it lasted forever obviously. It's a bit more complicated than Hit Me by comparison (that one shoulda never been retired IMO), kinda a crapshoot and a lot of thinking involved relative to most any other game on the show.
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Post by: Spmahn on December 17, 2020, 06:49:38 PM
I enjoy It’s Optional, but it would appear that the only way to lose would be to actively sabotage yourself by making choices that would wholly defy logic and reason. I can see how this would be difficult for the shows budget, and why the game was retired.
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Post by: name456 on December 18, 2020, 03:49:30 PM
Card Game relies far more on luck with a $200 range. With so many face cards in the deck, it’s easy to go over, and just as easy to play too cautiously and stop on a low bid. Still, I enjoy it.

I think Deluxe Dice Game comes in early 83. Regular Dice Game in 1982-83 is just not as fun as the late 70s and the five digit variety. The first digit is a gimme (a 6), if the second digit is lower than 5 or 6, it’s an incredibly cheap car.

I don’t recall It’s Optional being lost much.
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Post by: MrPlinko on December 18, 2020, 03:56:20 PM
Lots of one second drop outs on Pluto today.

Joe
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Post by: name456 on December 18, 2020, 04:20:22 PM
Ten Chances isn’t as fun when so many contestants don’t realize the prices end in zero!
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 18, 2020, 06:52:15 PM
Ten Chances isn’t as fun when so many contestants don’t realize the prices end in zero!

I guess it's a little forgivable early on, especially when there wasn't always a zero as an option.  One of the episodes I watched on Monday featured a prize where the number selection was 4, 6, 8, and 9.


Card Game relies far more on luck with a $200 range. With so many face cards in the deck, it’s easy to go over, and just as easy to play too cautiously and stop on a low bid. Still, I enjoy it.

I think Deluxe Dice Game comes in early 83. Regular Dice Game in 1982-83 is just not as fun as the late 70s and the five digit variety. The first digit is a gimme (a 6), if the second digit is lower than 5 or 6, it’s an incredibly cheap car.

I don’t recall It’s Optional being lost much.


I wonder if the goal would've been $250 away from the price of the more expensive car if the game was active today (just another failed attempt at a joke, sorry!).  Anyway, it was a little surprising to see they game disappear, but as mentioned, it made sense for its retirement.  I guess it would've been more suited as a game for something other than two cars (with a name change for the pricing game).  I always loved It's Optional, but times change and things are different.

For the record, that game was 27-18

Deluxe Dice Game will be arriving shortly; as soon as the next batch surfaces, it'll be coming up.  Didn't have a problem with Dice Game as a four digit price.  The game was difficult regardless of 4 or 5 digits.

Card Game was a nightmare early on.  It's a great game, but unless you draw an ace, you could go from not being close enough to over with one draw.  That's based on the range.  Not really a sabotage, just bad luck
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 18, 2020, 07:02:19 PM
I wonder if the goal would've been $250 away from the price of the more expensive car if the game was active today (just another failed attempt at a joke, sorry!).  Anyway, it was a little surprising to see they game disappear, but as mentioned, it made sense for its retirement.  I guess it would've been more suited as a game for something other than two cars (with a name change for the pricing game).  I always loved It's Optional, but times change and things are different.

For the record, that game was 27-18

Here's an interesting idea just off the top of my head.....what if you made the game be like for 5 prizes, the last of which was a car, and the game was the same except you used the prices of the 4 smaller prizes as the options, being able to choose up to 3 to reach the target window for that day. Ie: the combined total of the 4 lesser prizes in a playing could total $12,000 and the car totaled $24,000, and you could have a target window of $19,000-$22,000 you'd have to hit or stay within in order to win all 5. Could be an interesting way to revamp it and make it less of a crapshoot or budget buster due to being too easy. Thoughts anyone?
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Post by: blozier2006 on December 18, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
Here's an interesting idea just off the top of my head.....what if you made the game be like for 5 prizes, the last of which was a car, and the game was the same except you used the prices of the 4 smaller prizes as the options, being able to choose up to 3 to reach the target window for that day. Ie: the combined total of the 4 lesser prizes in a playing could total $12,000 and the car totaled $24,000, and you could have a target window of $19,000-$22,000 you'd have to hit or stay within in order to win all 5. Could be an interesting way to revamp it and make it less of a crapshoot or budget buster due to being too easy. Thoughts anyone?
That entirely misses the point of the game, which was to offer two cars at once (in which case, I suppose you could call Triple Play a logical successor).
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 18, 2020, 08:32:59 PM
That entirely misses the point of the game, which was to offer two cars at once (in which case, I suppose you could call Triple Play a logical successor).

I know, but hey, Time is Money got a revamp that was vastly different than the original too, even if still relatively similar. So wouldn't be COMPLETELY unprecedented.
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Post by: JediJones on December 18, 2020, 11:38:31 PM
these contestants are pretty awesome!  Especially Beverly, who might be the nicest contestant I've ever seen.  Maybe one of the nicest people on Planet Earth.  Such a good sport and at least for the most part, way energetic and was smiling throughout her appearances.  Such positive energy!  Her showcase bid was not good at all, but that's pretty much the only error she made.

Beverlie (as she spells it) Peters is more famous as a contestant on Press Your Luck. It was very unusual in that she appeared on camera as a friend of another contestant (Joy) in one episode, and then in later episodes ended up being a contestant herself (winning one day and losing the next). She acted significantly more hyper on PYL than she did on TPIR and her clip ended up being shown in the opening titles for a period of time. Being in the opening titles also meant her face can be seen in the movie The Cable Guy when PYL is shown on a screen. Her episodes are 219 (cameo), 233 and 234, which are easily found on YouTube. I'm taking credit for discovering she appeared on both shows for now as I haven't seen this info posted elsewhere online yet. I'm not sure if her TPIR episode was one of the ones supposedly unseen for 37 years or not.
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Post by: JediJones on December 19, 2020, 12:15:52 AM
I'll amend that a little, I think Beverlie did not appear in episode 219 of PYL. It was her friend Joy who played in that episode and then Joy who had a cameo in one of Beverlie's episodes.

As for the "It's Optional" game, any reason they couldn't offer the contestant their choice of one of the cars if they win? It sure seems like overkill to give the same contestant two cars at once. At any rate, it would still be an easy game. I assume the price of those options would not vary greatly by different model of car so it's one game where you could exactly predict what items would be on the board every time and therefore memorize prices in advance.

I also see Hurdles apparently got retired in 1983. I'm guessing that happened because it just didn't make for as exciting a visual as mountain climber. The pacing is kind of dull because you have to choose all your prices upfront and then wait until the end to watch the entire race.
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Post by: JediJones on December 19, 2020, 12:49:11 AM
I'll also amend my credit for discovering the Beverlie Peters crossover. Hades1981 posted that she was on TPIR and PYL on this forum on July 2, 2006 in the thread "Playing more than one gameshow."
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Post by: Spmahn on December 19, 2020, 01:09:32 AM

I also see Hurdles apparently got retired in 1983. I'm guessing that happened because it just didn't make for as exciting a visual as mountain climber. The pacing is kind of dull because you have to choose all your prices upfront and then wait until the end to watch the entire race.

At the end of this season, there were a number of games that operated on mechanical controls that would frequently fail, you can see it happen frequently here with Squeeze Play. Apparently Bob finally pitched a fit and demanded that these games be made manual or get rid of them, and I guess there was no simple way to make Hurdles operate manually, so it got the axe.
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Post by: pricefan18 on December 19, 2020, 01:14:05 AM
At the end of this season, there were a number of games that operated on mechanical controls that would frequently fail, you can see it happen frequently here with Squeeze Play. Apparently Bob finally pitched a fit and demanded that these games be made manual or get rid of them, and I guess there was no simple way to make Hurdles operate manually, so it got the axe.

Interesting, I never knew that other games suffered this, I know Hurdles had suffered from it and it led to its' retirement, but didn't know about others. Was Range Game another that suffered in this? I know in this first batch of 100 shows they've aired/are airing (or the first half of the season basically), that came up a bit as has been discussed. Was that why/did it come up again later? I half wonder if It's Optional fell into this too now that you mention it and led to its' demise too in part.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on December 19, 2020, 01:25:27 AM

I also see Hurdles apparently got retired in 1983. I'm guessing that happened because it just didn't make for as exciting a visual as mountain climber. The pacing is kind of dull because you have to choose all your prices upfront and then wait until the end to watch the entire race.


As mentioned by Spmahn, Hurdles broke down several times, and that led to its demise.  You'll see that at its finest during the second batch of episodes.  Given that Bob had issues with certain pricings games not working properly to where they should be made manual or else, I wonder if it received the Penny Ante treatment and wasn't retired right away (maybe the decision was made official in early 1987). 

Your reasoning behind its retirement is fair enough, however.  I don't know how much longer it would have lasted had it not been for those common malfunctions.

Personally, I came to love Hurdles and was saddened when it didn't show up on Price is Right anymore.  That being said, Cliff Hangers had it beat in terms of gameplay and a more graphic set.  The former is similar to Trader Bob in that a contestant would be done immediately upon his or her first mistake (That didn't help).  Whereas the latter was great because you could strategize, make a mistake on all three small prizes, and still do well.

As mentioned, issues with one of, if not the largest game prop on TPIR led to the decision to retire it.  What possibly made the decision easier was the fact that you'd have zero margin for error.  It was a nice game, but it looks like the game took up too much time with the grocery product selection.  Then the fear of losing early meant that all the time it took to bring that game out + the product selection only to possibly lose right away probably would not have bonded well in terms of the pricing game still being in rotation today


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Post by: LFAT since diapers on December 19, 2020, 05:38:19 PM
It is remarkable how good these look. I have not seen another videotape program that originated in 480i brought to this level of resolution, shows like All in the Family and Good Times being my reference.

Any hope of them going through the earlier stuff and eliminating the fur episodes? Lots more of Johnny and Holly back there.
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Post by: JediJones on December 27, 2020, 04:28:40 AM
Anitra Ford would be the main attraction of the "fur era" for me. I'd recommend they find enough "fur-less" episodes featuring Anitra and market it as a "Best of Anitra" block.
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Post by: TVC on January 02, 2021, 02:40:01 PM
I'd recommend they find enough "fur-less" episodes featuring Anitra and market it as a "Best of Anitra" block.
Yes, I’d much enjoy seeing 1970s episodes in the mix. The 1974-76 years were the show’s finest in my view.
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Post by: MSTieScott on January 02, 2021, 03:32:14 PM
Any hope of them going through the earlier stuff and eliminating the fur episodes? Lots more of Johnny and Holly back there.

I'd guess that it's unlikely. It seems probable that the channel chose season 11 because it's the furthest back they could go without worrying about furs -- if true, then it means they don't want to have to deal with skipping over a lot of episodes.

Every episode has to be viewed beforehand to make sure nothing slips through that the channel shouldn't be airing. With these season 11 episodes, even if something out of the ordinary happens -- like Bob reciting his childhood address on air -- once the offending bit of material is removed, the channel is still left with an airable episode. But if a significant fraction of episodes are skipped because they contain furs, that's a lot of money wasted on screening episodes the channel can't air. It's much more cost effective to stick with the '80s episodes the channel knows it'll be able to use.

Over the past couple of weeks, I've finally had some time to enjoy the channel. I echo all of the good things said about it -- the video quality is amazing, and I love that everything that can be left in is being left in. The only bad thing is that I'd estimate I've watched about one-fourth of the available episodes, but I'm already at the point where when I check out the channel, I frequently hit an episode I've already seen, which makes me leave.

The reason it keeps happening, I assume, is because when I do check out the channel, it's at about the same time in the morning on any given day. Because the channel is rotating through 100 episodes, at 24 episodes per day, that means the same episodes will keep airing in approximately the same time slots every time. If the channel eventually adds more episodes to the rotation, I hope it's in a quantity that's less close to being a multiple of 24.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 02, 2021, 09:46:38 PM
To be semi-honest. If we get to 2022, and we're still talking about how Pluto has only aired TPIR from September 1982 - February 1983, I'll be okay with it.  Of course I would love it if they added a couple batches of episodes (two sets of 100 episodes).  The next 100 would features February 1983 to September 1983 (Season 12), and the following would be exclusive to Season 12, from late 1983 to early 1984.  If that happens to be the max for 2021, I would not have a problem with it.

As mentioned, I'm just glad that Pluto is airing the episodes.  Even though I've seen them all, I occasionally rewatch some of the ones that have aired several times.  IMO, Season 11 is underrated, and quite hilarious.  So many great moments from the contestants to the recurring showcase skits, and from the gameplay and overall show to the interaction with Bob and Johnny.  It's really a great thing; totally worth it!
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 02, 2021, 10:12:44 PM
I'd forgotten how much fun the Showcase used to be.  With things like A Trip Down Main Street, The Price Is Right Department Store, and all those skits, you really never knew what they were gonna do next.  I know skits are a pipe dream, but I'd love to at least see some of the recurring themes come back.

Speaking of the Showcase, unless I've just totally missed it, they don't seem to have introduced Train Depot yet, which really surprises me.  Also surprising, given that I never remember it not being around, is that they don't seem to have started using the Tugboat.  I can't imagine we're all that far from seeing it, but I'm really curious now about when it'll finally show up.
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Post by: RatRace10 on January 02, 2021, 10:19:41 PM
I like the skits where the models actually get to talk! I never knew that was a thing.  :-D
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Post by: jerseyfla on January 02, 2021, 10:30:31 PM
I have been home for the last week with COVID and I have spent a good amount of my isolation watching TPIR on Pluto and I am loving it! I never realized the background didn’t change all at once in 1982. Hopefully they gradually add episodes. If not, hey it’s okay with me!
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Post by: saturn93 on January 02, 2021, 11:42:24 PM
I like the skits where the models actually get to talk! I never knew that was a thing.  :-D
That and the occasional chat with Bob after a quickie game (One Right Price, Most Expensive, etc.).  It definitely shows the personality of all three of them.  I know that in the last few years (especially that they started miking the models), it has come back in a different form, not so much the skit sense. 

I have seen some of the Pluto eps, (but there's a few I want to see, but could not get to it due to timing issues (work, sleep)), and started seeing a few Youtube eps from different years (just got done with a "Johnny the Fortune Teller" showcase from 1980).  Steve Gavazzi was right about not knowing what they were going to do with the Showcases, and just being fun to watch.
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Post by: COINBOYNYC on January 03, 2021, 01:48:53 AM
Bob reciting his childhood address on air

Was that what it was?

I had the channel on as background noise while I was surfing the web when I noticed he gave out what I thought was his home address, which from what I could piece together seemed to be in response to a contestant mentioning the area where he lived.  Even taking into account those being different times, it would be strange for a star of Barker's magnitude to just give out his address like that.

But as I said, I hadn't been paying complete attention when I heard what I thought I heard.  Giving out his childhood address seems more logical, although still strange ("I lived at 123 Golden Road, Priceville as a kid" as opposed to just "I lived in Priceville as a kid").
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 03, 2021, 03:32:56 AM
I remember him disclosing his info as it related to his address.  As mentioned, those were different times.  The contestant in contestant's row happened to graduate from the same high school and college Bob graduated from, and she lived at least close to where Bob grew up.  But the same institution was what brought that up.

Yeah, I don't think you'd get away from doing that today (as in mentioning where you live).  Heck, I'm not a star and I don't answer the door or pick up the phone unless I'm expecting someone or I recognize who's calling!

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Over the past couple of weeks, I've finally had some time to enjoy the channel. I echo all of the good things said about it -- the video quality is amazing, and I love that everything that can be left in is being left in. The only bad thing is that I'd estimate I've watched about one-fourth of the available episodes, but I'm already at the point where when I check out the channel, I frequently hit an episode I've already seen, which makes me leave.

The reason it keeps happening, I assume, is because when I do check out the channel, it's at about the same time in the morning on any given day. Because the channel is rotating through 100 episodes, at 24 episodes per day, that means the same episodes will keep airing in approximately the same time slots every time. If the channel eventually adds more episodes to the rotation, I hope it's in a quantity that's less close to being a multiple of 24.

Might be intentional, but I think it's coincidental that today (01/03/2021), the 38th anniversary of Plinko's premiere, started with the episode in which Plinko made its first appearance (Eastern Standard Time).  Fitting enough, the 01/03/1983 episode is the 77th episode out of the first 100 for Pluto.  Tomorrow is the first non-holiday weekday of 2021, so it is possible that the second set will start at Midnight EST on 01/04/2021.  Rather coincidental IMO.

Otherwise, they'll restart again first thing tomorrow.  If you add four days from the restart and then add four more hours, you could catch some of those eepisodes that you missed previously.  When they move forward with 4972 all the way to the Season 12 premiere, I don't know whether they'll start with 09/13/82 or with 02/08/83.

As optimistic as I am with the possibility of new episodes coming on January 4th, I won't be surprised at all if it doesn't happen quite yet
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 03, 2021, 03:18:40 PM
I don't really know if this should go here or another thread, but since it was seen on the Pluto run, here goes.

It's Optional:  there is at least one playing, maybe a second, where the contestant got options (in the playing I saw it was 2 of 3) matched exactly right to the loaded car.  Is it safe to assume those were the options that made the more expensive car?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: wpghi5 on January 03, 2021, 06:55:17 PM
I never realized the background didn’t change all at once in 1982.

That's the year I was born! Lol!  :-D
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: tpiradam on January 03, 2021, 07:05:09 PM
Did some quick math and it appears that the cycle will end at midnight so it will be interesting to see if it resets yet again to September 1982 or if they continue on with the next cycle, but of course I could be off. (I'll be asleep then so I wont know) Unless it's skipped the 'drunk' episode will be the first of the new cycle.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on January 03, 2021, 10:45:45 PM
I don't really know if this should go here or another thread, but since it was seen on the Pluto run, here goes.

It's Optional:  there is at least one playing, maybe a second, where the contestant got options (in the playing I saw it was 2 of 3) matched exactly right to the loaded car.  Is it safe to assume those were the options that made the more expensive car?

One of those playings just aired tonight at 10 PM Eastern. Bob said it was the second time that happened.

Does anyone else notice that the needle on the base car is one too far? When she won, the arrow was on the next tick. I thought she went over until the bells sounded.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on January 04, 2021, 12:02:54 AM
And they have reset the cycle back to 9/13/82 once again.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: MrPlinko on January 05, 2021, 11:50:03 AM
Is there information from Pluto TV as to how many times they will repeat the 100 episode cycle? I am loving this system!  It is a pleasure to see contestants from different diversities and personalities being called to "Come on Down." My favorite Price is Right years were 1975- 1985. After Johnny passed away, there was some mild tarnish, as this legend was irreplaceable!  Rod was very good, but more of a comical ham in later years. Johnny was like fine wine. He was so good when he started and just got better with time.

The 90's era was when the show started with more predictable trends with regard to who "Came on Down" Although it was subtle at first, the pattern was often:

1.) Little old lady on vacation
2.) Some contestant who had never seen the show in their lives, and you could tell their incompetence,
3.) Bob always over slowing down the name, "Kimberly" saying "Kimmm berrrr lee" and if you were a "Kimberly" you were more often than not picked.
4.) Than the lawsuits with the models,  and we found out that there were things about Bob in private, that weren't so great.

2000's were still good, but they started needing to do the time constraints and the show seemed to focus more about Bob than about the contestants.  Audiences got more hyper.  The 75-89 versions are in my view the best!

Joe
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JayC on January 05, 2021, 12:23:27 PM
I'm guessing the current cycle will last as long as it takes to get a new cycle ready to stream.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Spmahn on January 05, 2021, 02:04:19 PM
They’ve used clips in their promos from beyond what they’ve already aired. I don’t think the issue is related to digitization, I think it’s just them not really knowing how popular this was going to be and still trying to figure out their strategy.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on January 05, 2021, 02:24:06 PM
Is there information from Pluto TV as to how many times they will repeat the 100 episode cycle? I am loving this system!  It is a pleasure to see contestants from different diversities and personalities being called to "Come on Down." My favorite Price is Right years were 1975- 1985. After Johnny passed away, there was some mild tarnish, as this legend was irreplaceable!  Rod was very good, but more of a comical ham in later years. Johnny was like fine wine. He was so good when he started and just got better with time.

You know about this, it's interesting to go back to the very early years of the show, I am talking like the half hour era and maybe a little past that, because you can see a distinct shift in how he introduces Bob then relative to what you are seeing on Pluto and beyond. It was very quick and to the point at first, whereas by 82 it was much more drawn out with a lot more oomph behind it, a style of announcing that would of course stick long after him, even up to the present day with George. The success of the show coulda had a bit to do with that, as far as Johnny knowing enough to really put more intention into it as it and Bob's stature grew, but it's an interesting thing to look back at/chart nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Derek McIntyre on January 06, 2021, 10:58:16 PM
Does Pluto TV put in new commercials in their TPIR reruns, just curious. I know the commercial breaks in the studio master copies of TPIR after 1975 were pretty much just blank spaces, although some studio masters of TPIR from 9/4/72 to 1975 do contain their original commercials, including the 9/4/72 studio master.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on January 06, 2021, 11:21:41 PM
Does Pluto TV put in new commercials in their TPIR reruns, just curious. I know the commercial breaks in the studio master copies of TPIR after 1975 were pretty much just blank spaces, although some studio masters of TPIR from 9/4/72 to 1975 do contain their original commercials, including the 9/4/72 studio master.

Yes. It's treated pretty much like regular TV is.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Derek McIntyre on January 06, 2021, 11:50:34 PM
Thanks a bunch :-) Always looking for TPIR from the studio masters w/slate and original CBS broadcasts with commercials :-)
I know the following 1 hour shows are out there from the studio masters-
-12/23/75
-5/15/78-with time code
-1/17/81
-3/10/86
-a 1987 ep
-1/18/88
-10/4/88-with time code
-6/7/93-with time code
-1996, 25th anniversary special
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Tpirfan1995mr on January 07, 2021, 11:19:16 AM
When are they going to do 2 8 83 onward I'm getting bored with the same loop
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 07, 2021, 12:36:15 PM
You might have to ask the folks that run that channel.  Given the fact that there wasn't even a Barker Era channel this time 40 days ago, I don't think it's a big deal at all.  If I had to guess, they'll get to it when they get to it.


I assumed that if they were going to do it, it would've happened on Monday.  I don't imagine they'll start tomorrow, so the earliest, most logical spot that Pluto would move onto 02/08/83 and beyond would be Tuesday around 8 AM EST.

Someone like you and I (or me) wouldn't necessarily be happy for the fact that they've been on this same loop.  A couple things, however.  As mentioned in the past, a casual fan whose life includes a lot outside of TPIR but admired the classic years of the show would be okay with what they're doing now.  They might catch a couple episodes a week and then that would be enough to satisfy their viewing of a 1982 episode of TPIR in the year 2021.

For the super-fan, you'd want more, and that's understandable.  However, as of right now, I have the option to go to YouTube to catch what's on there.  I do that every-so-often, but not every hour of every day of every week.  Pre Barker era, that's been the best option for me, and I can't thank TPTB at CBS, Fremantle, the show itself, and whomever else that they've allowed it.  It'll be sad when that changes, but I'm thankful that they've okay'd it for the past several years up to this point
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on January 07, 2021, 11:02:14 PM
However, as of right now, I have the option to go to YouTube to catch what's on there.  I do that every-so-often, but not every hour of every day of every week.  Pre Barker era, that's been the best option for me, and I can't thank TPTB at CBS, Fremantle, the show itself, and whomever else that they've allowed it.  It'll be sad when that changes, but I'm thankful that they've okay'd it for the past several years up to this point

You mean Pre-Carey era right? I'd think so lol.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RedWing512 on January 08, 2021, 12:09:27 PM
You mean Pre-Carey era right? I'd think so lol.

No, they meant before the Barker-Era Channel was a thing. What they said was correct.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: MrPlinko on January 08, 2021, 05:55:58 PM
I wonder how long it takes for Pluto TV to digitize a set of Price is Right-Barker Era episodes (100 at a time) and prepare them for viewing? Do they have to do the clean-up and restorations? Or has CBS/Freemantle already done that before giving them to Pluto TV?

Joe
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on January 09, 2021, 04:56:29 PM
Even if there was a new batch coming, it might not be as large as the first 100, perhaps it may only be 50-60 episodes at most and on average maybe just 25 or so.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 09, 2021, 05:00:21 PM
Even if there was a new batch coming, it might not be as large as the first 100, perhaps it may only be 50-60 episodes at most and on average maybe just 25 or so.

Do we have any reason at all to think that would be the case?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on January 09, 2021, 05:06:20 PM
Do we have any reason at all to think that would be the case?

I can't see it making sense to do it that way, assuming they keep to the same new episode every hour method they've been using since the end of the 2nd week. They'd be repeating at a much faster rate especially with 25 shows to a batch, and they already are every 4 days as it is now. So I don't see why they'd go that short unless they changed up how they air the show. It just wouldn't be smart.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Tpirfan1995mr on January 09, 2021, 08:29:54 PM
I want to see seasons 12 to 19 because 1st half of season 12 is what GSN last aired and didn't air the 2nd half because of losing the rights and only aired a couple season 13 episodes didn't air season 14 didn't air on GSN  only half of season 15 only 1 of season 16 to my knowledge none of 17 and 18 and only 1 of season 19
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: blozier2006 on January 09, 2021, 08:40:36 PM
[rambling demand snipped]
Ian Frame, is that you?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Tpirfan1995mr on January 09, 2021, 11:23:41 PM
Here are some points I don't approve of the fur ban of episodes from the past
1. You can't change the past
2. We won't be able to see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown
3. They could put a censor bar over the coat and bleep out the description
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Spmahn on January 09, 2021, 11:30:20 PM
Here are some points I don't approve of the fur ban of episodes from the past
1. You can't change the past
2. We won't be able to see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown
3. They could put a censor bar over the coat and bleep out the description

Um, right. Anyways, I still don’t think the fur ban will outlive Bob, we’ll see those shows again some day.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Tpirfan1995mr on January 10, 2021, 12:18:07 AM
It might be awhile but I can't wait for late 1987 when bob's hair went grey and the last playings of 4 digit dice game last days of the old one right price set. I also can't wait to see any cliffhangers playing from season 18 because I think that's the last season with the original mountain climber but I'm not sure
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 10, 2021, 01:03:07 AM
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It might be awhile but I can't wait for late 1987 when bob's hair went grey and the last playings of 4 digit dice game last days of the old one right price set. I also can't wait to see any cliffhangers playing from season 18 because I think that's the last season with the original mountain climber but I'm not sure

The change could've occurred in Season 17 or in Season 19; based off of the FAQ, the original mountain climber was gone before 7875D but the current one didn't appear before 7123D.  I wonder if the game was won or not before the switch, although it technically doesn't matter.  After all the episodes tape/air out-of-order.  But the switch happened between early 1989 and early 1991 for sure

While hair change is still available (it could change anytime however), we might be waiting for a long time.

The fur ban may or may not get lifted, but I think we could still see shows from Seasons 1-10.  Not all of them, but certain episodes.  GSN did air them within the past 25 years, specially Seasons 8 and 10
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: name456 on January 10, 2021, 02:26:54 AM
If my memory is correct, GSN’s run stopped in early 1984. I know they aired various later episodes over the years.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on January 10, 2021, 03:47:08 AM
What if they let Bob or a spokesperson that he designates put an anti-fur PSA over any segment where a fur is described as a prize? I guess it might get difficult to match a recording up by time against segments of different lengths.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on January 10, 2021, 04:08:26 AM
It’s not happening.  Maybe once Barker passes, the fur ban will be lifted.  But there is a reason Pluto TV started where they did, and it’s good enough for me.  Besides, and perhaps I’m alone here, but I find most of the clips I watch of pre-1980s shows to be kind of boring.  Especially before the ‘new’ music packages were introduced and the set was 10 different shades of ugly brown.  Many here may like it, but I’ll quietly pass. :P
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JayC on January 10, 2021, 12:19:15 PM
3. They could put a censor bar over the coat and bleep out the description
They're not going to do anymore work than they need to just to please a small amount of viewers that are itching to see episodes from before the fur ban. Either they will eventually decide to air them without edits like that or they won't.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Tpirfan1995mr on January 10, 2021, 12:42:37 PM
When they get to 2 10 84 what GSN could've aired if rights were not taken away
The pricing games according to the calendar in grey background were
Super Ball!!
3 Strikes
Poker Game
Barker's Bargain Bar
Money Game
Pick a Pair
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: name456 on January 10, 2021, 02:42:41 PM
Earth tones were big in the early 70s. That set was cool back then. Now, I agree on the ugliness. The Temptation board looks better in green though.

Barker hadn’t found his style yet, he was more of a stereotypical game show host. At the time he was better on TorC. I remember my parents wishing Bill Cullen would have hosted again. My memories of Cullen Price are somewhat vague but I did enjoy him of course.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Tpirfan1995mr on January 10, 2021, 04:19:44 PM
If my memory is correct, GSN’s run stopped in early 1984. I know they aired various later episodes over the years.
that is why I can't wait to see those because most of those are in grey background onthe calendar
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on January 11, 2021, 10:32:04 AM
Here are some points I don't approve of the fur ban of episodes from the past
1. You can't change the past
2. We won't be able to see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown
3. They could put a censor bar over the coat and bleep out the description

My reason is much more simple and direct: For every episode that included a game/Showcase played for a fur, there were contestants – including the ones who played for the fur – who competed on the show.

Plain and simple.

Being on "Price," meeting Bob Barker/Johnny Olson/the Beauties/etc. is/was a highlight of their lives, and while they may have a videotaped record of their show, more than likely they never have been able to watch their show again other than the time it originally aired or, possibly, if it were rerun during the summer months. Remember that until the late 1980s, home recording technology was a very expensive luxury, and you don't have to necessarily go to existing "Price" (or other era game shows) episodes from the late 1970s/early 1980s – where VCRs were sometmes priced at $1,500; a 1978 clip of the "High Rollers" pilot had a VCR priced at $2,400(!) – to see how expensive a VCR was then; and then, videotapes do degrade or become lost over time.
 
Also, if the contestants who appeared on these "Price" episodes have since passed away, their descendants haven't gotten a chance to see their mom or dad, grandma or grandpa, aunt or uncle, etc. and watch a special memory. What a story they could share and enjoy, without them being there, and a chance to see them, hear their voices and remember them as they were once again.

Simply put, by not airing "fur" episodes, not only does it change the record, but this denies contestants (and their families and friends) who were on these shows a chance to see themselves once again, from 40-plus years ago, competing on one of America's all-time great game shows.

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: MrPlinko on January 11, 2021, 02:29:27 PM
I don't know if I posted this before or not:

But it was mentioned that when Pluto TV did their promotional run for TPIR that a few episodes slipped through the cracks and had furs as prizes. (Before the 100 episodes at a time was established.) If this is correct, do we know for reference, what year the episodes were from?

I think that the fur ban will be lifted upon Bob's passing, unless he has specified in his will that he does not want any fur episodes of Price aired because of his devotion to animal rights.

Joe
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: supersaver87 on January 11, 2021, 03:57:02 PM
But it was mentioned that when Pluto TV did their promotional run for TPIR that a few episodes slipped through the cracks and had furs as prizes. (Before the 100 episodes at a time was established.) If this is correct, do we know for reference, what year the episodes were from?

I have two GSN airings with a fur coat. One was November 16, 1972, and the other was June 13, 1977.

There's another early episode where Bob excitedly mentions they offer fur coats, but I don't recall which episode it was. Either way, the episode itself lacked a fur.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JayC on January 11, 2021, 04:38:58 PM
It would be disrespectful if they started airing fur episodes just because Bob is no longer living after he dies. I still think either they will not air anything from before the ban or they will eventually air earlier episodes but only ones without furs. The only exception I could see is if they were to air the premiere episode.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Tpirfan1995mr on January 11, 2021, 04:50:00 PM
If that's the case if we want a episode with a fur what would you do
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: PunchABunchFan on January 11, 2021, 05:20:53 PM
My reason is much more simple and direct: For every episode that included a game/Showcase played for a fur, there were contestants – including the ones who played for the fur – who competed on the show.

Plain and simple.

Being on "Price," meeting Bob Barker/Johnny Olson/the Beauties/etc. is/was a highlight of their lives, and while they may have a videotaped record of their show, more than likely they never have been able to watch their show again other than the time it originally aired or, possibly, if it were rerun during the summer months. Remember that until the late 1980s, home recording technology was a very expensive luxury, and you don't have to necessarily go to existing "Price" (or other era game shows) episodes from the late 1970s/early 1980s – where VCRs were sometmes priced at $1,500; a 1978 clip of the "High Rollers" pilot had a VCR priced at $2,400(!) – to see how expensive a VCR was then; and then, videotapes do degrade or become lost over time.
 
Also, if the contestants who appeared on these "Price" episodes have since passed away, their descendants haven't gotten a chance to see their mom or dad, grandma or grandpa, aunt or uncle, etc. and watch a special memory. What a story they could share and enjoy, without them being there, and a chance to see them, hear their voices and remember them as they were once again.

Simply put, by not airing "fur" episodes, not only does it change the record, but this denies contestants (and their families and friends) who were on these shows a chance to see themselves once again, from 40-plus years ago, competing on one of America's all-time great game shows.

Brian

I believe that Fremantle has an e-mail address for contestants, family members, etc. to make requests of episodes (with a fairly hefty fee attached if I recall correctly), so there is a way for people to get that (unless it's recently been discontinued).  I don't know whether episodes with furs are available via this route.

I agree with the others who note that Fremantle and Pluto are profit-driven enterprises and are not going to incur a lot of expense to fulfill the desires of a very small audience where there is no economic justification for doing so. 
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Spmahn on January 11, 2021, 06:26:20 PM
It would be disrespectful if they started airing fur episodes just because Bob is no longer living after he dies. I still think either they will not air anything from before the ban or they will eventually air earlier episodes but only ones without furs. The only exception I could see is if they were to air the premiere episode.

I get the whole disrespectful thing, but this is TV history, and it’s important. It would be an absolute travesty if 10+ years of TPIR history disappeared into the ether and gathered dust in the Freemantle archives for all eternity. I get Bob’s position, but he is absolutely wrong here. Ignoring all those episodes isnt going to bring back all those miks, weasels, and foxes back. We can accept it as being wrong, while also not pretending it didn’t happen. Just like the old lady who requests to have her cat euthanized to be buried with her when she dies, sometimes it’s ok to ignore a persons wishes when they are short sighted and wrong.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Tpirfan1995mr on January 11, 2021, 06:34:42 PM
I get the whole disrespectful thing, but this is TV history, and it’s important. It would be an absolute travesty if 10+ years of TPIR history disappeared into the ether and gathered dust in the Freemantle archives for all eternity. I get Bob’s position, but he is absolutely wrong here. Ignoring all those episodes isnt going to bring back all those miks, weasels, and foxes back. We can accept it as being wrong, while also not pretending it didn’t happen. Just like the old lady who requests to have her cat euthanized to be buried with her when she dies, sometimes it’s ok to ignore a persons wishes when they are short sighted and wrong.
because of this we can't see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown if I wanted to buy a episode with a fur from freemantle I'll cite this episode might have a fur and can't be reran on tv and your the only one I can turn to
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JhayPrice on January 11, 2021, 06:48:29 PM
Majority of the late '70s era aren't seen again after their original broadcast because of the fur prizes awarded. We know it's all part of television history, but we all know it would be up to Fremantle whether they'd let several platforms to reair the episodes after the time Bob would leave us, so the best thing you could do, just like most of us Price fans, is to wait.

EDIT: Mods, wrong thread posted... My apologies.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: blozier2006 on January 11, 2021, 07:12:35 PM
[things I want and will never get]
Jesus, dude.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TVC on January 11, 2021, 09:57:26 PM
Does Pluto TV put in new commercials in their TPIR reruns, just curious. I know the commercial breaks in the studio master copies of TPIR after 1975 were pretty much just blank spaces, although some studio masters of TPIR from 9/4/72 to 1975 do contain their original commercials, including the 9/4/72 studio master.
There was a time when commercials were edited directly onto the air two-inch quadruplex videotapes. This might explain why copies of some "studio master" episodes in circulation contain original commercials. By the mid- or late 1970s, CBS played the spots outboard on Ampex ACR-25 VTRs.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/PwsnWp3DeLMWwb-9qgmtznqJso4-DBwMqE7Vp2cYAh5htx-Xifs0KkfoeeAEK5-KyJX0Q9kGWuXxoJ8bCnCm_j0SjHkG6ntHgfQF3jx4DEnhB0B59SGJzKTE_cOu7g)
I wonder how long it takes for Pluto TV to digitize a set of Price Is Right Barker-era episodes (100 at a time) and prepare them for viewing? Do they have to do the clean-up and restorations? Or has CBS/Fremantle already done that before giving them to Pluto TV?
The "digitizing" occurred during the early 1990s when Goodson Productions hired CBS to archive its library of shows from two-inch and one-inch videotape formats to Digital Betacam videotapes. Digital Betacam is a standard definition, high quality tape format that was popular in professional television at the time. To present shows from these tapes on the Internet (Pluto TV), the digital content on them has to be transcoded to computer files. I am unsure how much time and effort are necessary for this step, but it is not inconsequential. Each Digital Betacam tape would need to be played in real time on a deck that its connected with a signal transcoder and computer. And before the content could be shown, someone would need to screen it, make any needed trims or edits, and mark the in and out points of each segment.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 11, 2021, 10:10:07 PM
because of this we can't see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown if I wanted to buy a episode with a fur from freemantle I'll cite this episode might have a fur and can't be reran on tv and your the only one I can turn to

Holy good Lord, dude.

If you want to continue contributing here, you're going to need to stop whining, and you're going to need to start speaking in complete sentences.  The rest of the folks here don't need to be subjected to this.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on January 12, 2021, 11:29:05 AM
because of this we can't see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown if I wanted to buy a episode with a fur from freemantle I'll cite this episode might have a fur and can't be reran on tv and your the only one I can turn to

Huh?

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: LarryC on January 14, 2021, 07:07:52 PM
My reason is much more simple and direct: For every episode that included a game/Showcase played for a fur, there were contestants – including the ones who played for the fur – who competed on the show.

Plain and simple.

...

Brian

Two words:  Showcase Skits.  That's reason enough to re-air the 1970s episodes, along with everything else Brian mentioned.

Watching these 1982 episodes on Pluto, I realize that time has played tricks on my memory.  The showcases aren't nearly as fun or inventive as I remembered.  That's because, by and large, the really creative and clever showcases aired in the mid- to late-1970s, when Jay Wolpert was producing the show. 

Johnny's Schoolhouse ... Flaky Flicks ... lots of elaborate movie and TV send-ups ... I'm really wanting to see these showcase skits again, and I hope a fur ban doesn't mean I'll never get to.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on January 14, 2021, 09:49:20 PM
Definitely agreed on that. I saw a Flash Gordon parody showcase on Facebook with Anitra Ford and there was much more to it than the showcases on these Pluto episodes.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: MSTieScott on January 15, 2021, 03:50:49 PM
I just saw something I had never noticed before...

Look at the screen-right side of Secret X. There's a second container holding additional Xs! How long was that over there?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: MSTieScott on January 15, 2021, 03:56:44 PM
That same episode also gave me an answer to something I had long wondered about.

In the Television City scenic shop area, up high on one of the walls is/was a replica of the portraits at The Brown Derby. I took a picture of it in 2010 and wondered what it had originally been used for. Turns out it was part of a season 11 showcase in which one of the prizes was dinner at The Brown Derby.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JhayPrice on January 15, 2021, 09:42:33 PM
When did they stop the practice of Bob giving the contestant the $7 bills before the introduction of the car? I only saw around 2-3 early playing with that until around '74 because the game was already played frequently.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: BDE on January 19, 2021, 02:28:39 PM
Will Pluto TV also air the 1986 summer TPIR primetime specials? I know Game Show Network aired them in the past.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JayC on January 19, 2021, 02:31:29 PM
If they decide to stream them, they will. We don't know what they're going to be showing beyond the current episode cycle right now.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Spmahn on January 19, 2021, 07:49:02 PM
The 1986 specials are all of Youtube for anyone who wants to see them
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: ABBA on January 20, 2021, 01:23:51 AM
When in the next chance for new episodes on Pluto?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on January 20, 2021, 03:05:04 PM
At 3 PM Eastern on 1/20, the rotation looped back to 4581D.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 20, 2021, 10:13:42 PM
My recent calculations, or rather the recent calculations on the schedule had them looping back to 4581D at 4 PM Eastern and not 3 PM.  Based off of that, they're currently a couple hours ahead of schedule.


I haven't "aggressively" followed the episodes on Pluto since Monday at around 10 PM EST, so between that time and 3 PM EST they must have skipped an episode.  I'm not sure which one, but I guess it was 4753D.

The reason why they might have is that Pluto is airing episodes on Saturday (01/23/2021) featuring the best car wins (which might include 4753D).  That is according to the Barker Era Facebook page.  Not sure which episodes yet, but I imagine they'll emulate what they did for Christmas and start the marathon at 6 AM Eastern on Saturday and go until either Midnight or Sunday 01/24 at 6 AM EST
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on January 23, 2021, 06:38:43 AM
As expected they did start the marathon at 6 am EST beginning with 4585D, knowing that, looks like I think there will be at least 8 episodes in the mix given that they skipped a few in the current cycle and one in the last cycle.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on January 25, 2021, 10:18:57 AM
Apologies if this has been posted, but for those who have commented on the current 100-episode rotation, rejoice:

https://www.facebook.com/TPIRBarker/photos/a.144716527454769/156857799573975/

For those who don't have Facebook – On Tuesday, Feb. 2 (eight days from now), there will be 30 additional episodes in the rotation. New episodes will be added throughout the month until 200 episodes are in the rotation. I cannot nor will not speculate on further additions beyond that.

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pannoni1 on January 25, 2021, 10:55:15 AM
Great to hear about the new-for-Pluto eps coming up! Bimonthly seems like a good pace to add new episodes into the rotation, averaging just under two per day. I'm not sure how reruns will take place after this next batch has been posted, but since BUZZR tends to loop back to the previous cycle after the current one prior to any new leases. Basically looping the entire season will take just over eight days, so that leaves around four cycles after the final new episodes will be posted. It will be nice to see #retrotime on Discord hopping with activity again.

Still, this will take us up to the Season 13 premiere provided that we pick up where we left off and don't skip any episodes or even add a skipped episode. Get ready for the new music cues, Deluxe Dice Game, the revised Double Prices/One Right Price/Take Two sets, the revised Five Price Tags/Temptation podiums, as well as the first playings of Master Key and possibly The Phone Home Game, as well as the final playings of It's Optional and Hurdles.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 25, 2021, 11:51:54 AM
I think the Season 13 Premiere is about several hundred cycles away, but if all goes well we might get there this summer.  Barring any additions and no skips, we will get to 4991D, and adding another 100 would put us through around early 1984 but still in Season 12.  The next batch should include that special week where they plugged The PHG, and given the fact that they left the Fun & Games promos in this recent episodes, we could see them promoting that game.  FWIW, GSN edited those out in the 1999 airings of the Season 11 Finale Week
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on January 25, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
Great to hear about the new-for-Pluto eps coming up! Bimonthly seems like a good pace to add new episodes into the rotation, averaging just under two per day. I'm not sure how reruns will take place after this next batch has been posted, but since BUZZR tends to loop back to the previous cycle after the current one prior to any new leases. Basically looping the entire season will take just over eight days, so that leaves around four cycles after the final new episodes will be posted. It will be nice to see #retrotime on Discord hopping with activity again.

Still, this will take us up to the Season 13 premiere provided that we pick up where we left off and don't skip any episodes or even add a skipped episode. Get ready for the new music cues, Deluxe Dice Game, the revised Double Prices/One Right Price/Take Two sets, the revised Five Price Tags/Temptation podiums, as well as the first playings of Master Key and possibly The Phone Home Game, as well as the final playings of It's Optional and Hurdles.

Also The New Card Game.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on January 25, 2021, 12:03:18 PM
By the way on the car marathon this past Saturday they ran 12 episodes (4585D, 4591D, 4625D, 4665D, 4674D, 4701D, 4722D, 4743D, 4751D, 4753D, 4755D, and 4785D).

And about time they will finally release a batch of new episodes (even though it will be 30), that should take it barring no skips to 4851D (as well as fill in the gray shading of some of the episodes).
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on January 25, 2021, 12:04:38 PM
The Facebook announcement said they're starting the new ones at 10 AM ET which is a little odd in that the last 4 episodes of the current 100-episode cycle would've aired at 10, 11, 12 and 1 that day. Those four episodes originally aired starting February 1st, 1983, so I wonder if their announcement was confused and counted all the February episodes airing that day as new-to-Pluto episodes. If so, there is a slight chance the new episodes actually start at 2 PM ET that day.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 25, 2021, 12:12:08 PM
The Facebook announcement said they're starting the new ones at 10 AM ET which is a little odd in that the last 4 episodes of the current 100-episode cycle would've aired at 10, 11, 12 and 1 that day. Those four episodes originally aired starting February 1st, 1983, so I wonder if their announcement was confused and counted all the February episodes airing that day as new-to-Pluto episodes. If so, there is a slight chance the new episodes actually start at 2 PM ET that day.

At 7 AM today, they started over with 4581D.  They're currently skipping the episodes that aired on Saturday.  I haven't gotten around to figuring out what is slated to air between now and February 2nd, but I think the February 1983 episodes from the first 100 will air before 10 AM on 02/02/2021
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on January 25, 2021, 12:33:15 PM
Oh, okay, I was just counting through the 100 episodes based on what is currently airing now. If they're still skipping episodes from Saturday then that will probably account for the schedule losing another four episodes before February 2nd.

If the 24-hour (or was it only 12-hour?) Saturday marathon had aired without them skipping anything from the regular cycles, the cycle would've restarted Monday, 1/25/2021 08:00PM ET. Since it restarted 13 hours earlier, I assume they skipped 13 episodes from the regular cycles. Looks like they already skipped 2 more today and we're expecting another 4 to be skipped before February 2nd. So a 12-episode special marathon seems like it will end up resulting in 19 skipped episodes.

That would also mean they will stop skipping Saturday marathon episodes from the current cycle sometime mid-day Wednesday. The only logic I can see they might have used is that they skipped airing Saturday marathon episodes for something like 3.5 days before the marathon and 3.5 days after the marathon. And because the regular cycle is 4 days and 4 hours, that may account for why some of the marathon episodes only get skipped once instead of twice. Two full airings of the 100 episodes didn't quite fit into the block of time where they deemed it desirable to skip episodes.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on January 25, 2021, 12:54:08 PM
My counts may be off by one there, so the last episode they intend to skip may be 4674D at about 2 AM ET Wednesday this week. That should make for a total of 18 skipped episodes due to the marathon. It could be three 24-hour days pre and post the marathon where they skip episodes. I assume the marathon started at 6 AM Saturday and ran through 6 AM Sunday, so the period where episodes are skipped may be from Wednesday the 20th at 6 AM ET through Wednesday the 27th at 6 AM ET.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 25, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
I believe they started skipping at 11 AM Eastern last Wednesday.  My calculations had the cycle looping back to 4581D at 4 PM on the same.  Instead, they started an hour early.  Therefore I'd say they skipped 4781D (the last of 12 episodes that were run on Saturday).  Whether they skip that again or not has yet to be determined
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on January 25, 2021, 03:05:35 PM
For reference on where we are now, Monday at 2 PM was 4595 and 3 PM was 4601. Which should mean that the last appearance of 4581 was this morning at 5 AM.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 25, 2021, 04:16:35 PM
In my area, the most recent appearance of 4581 was 7 AM, but the 3 PM showing was 4601.  Now they're on 4602; 4585 & 4591 were skipped today due to both of those running twice over the weekend as part of the "Car Special"
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on January 26, 2021, 12:07:03 PM
On Tuesday, 11 AM was 4643 and 12 PM was 4644, which means two episodes were skipped between 4602 and 4643.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 27, 2021, 01:27:44 AM
On Tuesday, 11 AM was 4643 and 12 PM was 4644, which means two episodes were skipped between 4602 and 4643.

Actually it was just one (4625).  You might be factoring in 4633, which was skipped outright within the regular cycle. 


As of 1 AM Eastern on 01/27/2021, they're airing 4673.  Currently, with the announcement of new episodes starting at 10 AM Eastern on 02/02/2021, I'm not sure what to expect from 3 AM to 10 AM next Tuesday.  I was able to figure out that if they continued skipping the episodes from Saturday's Marathon within the current cycle, they'll loop back to the beginning on Thursday at 11 PM.  From there if they aired their first 100-episode cycle without any skips that would result in 4791 airing at 2 AM on 02/02.

By 2 AM on 01/27 there are still 7 episodes left from Saturday's Marathon that might get skipped.  However, if they decide not to skip those, it will result in the first 100-episode cycle ending within the 9 AM hour on February 2nd, just in time for the next 30 to start at 10 AM EST.  Furthermore, if they end up airing episodes 4701, 4722, 4743, 4751, 4753, 4755, and 4781, then at 6 AM EST on Friday, we should loop back to 4581 one last time.

I don't know or think they air those seven, and if they don't, I guess there will be 7 hours to figure out before they get to the Drunken Models Episode

Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: jhc2010 on January 27, 2021, 08:56:56 AM
And about time they will finally release a batch of new episodes (even though it will be 30), that should take it barring no skips to 4851D (as well as fill in the gray shading of some of the episodes).
I'm curious as to how accurate the non-gray shaded line-ups matched up to the actual episode airings on Pluto TV. Were there any errors or were all line-ups we had correct with what was posted on the calendar?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on January 27, 2021, 09:58:33 AM
It looks like Pluto aired a couple of gray shaded line-ups, and I think one of them were a match, while the other one had 5 out of 6 out of place.  As for the non-gray shaded line-ups, whatever was listed on Scorpz page was correct
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 27, 2021, 06:43:14 PM
There seems to be this idea that the gray-shaded lineups have a reasonable chance of being right.  There's no reason at all to think that -- I literally just took the games for those episodes and listed them in a plausible order.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: thatvhstapeguy on January 28, 2021, 11:59:38 AM
As I recall, we got two lineups corrected, and both of them were way off. One was pretty early on in the rotation, and I forget when the other one came in.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on February 01, 2021, 12:05:55 PM
Actually it was just one (4625).  You might be factoring in 4633, which was skipped outright within the regular cycle. 


As of 1 AM Eastern on 01/27/2021, they're airing 4673.  Currently, with the announcement of new episodes starting at 10 AM Eastern on 02/02/2021, I'm not sure what to expect from 3 AM to 10 AM next Tuesday.  I was able to figure out that if they continued skipping the episodes from Saturday's Marathon within the current cycle, they'll loop back to the beginning on Thursday at 11 PM.  From there if they aired their first 100-episode cycle without any skips that would result in 4791 airing at 2 AM on 02/02.

By 2 AM on 01/27 there are still 7 episodes left from Saturday's Marathon that might get skipped.  However, if they decide not to skip those, it will result in the first 100-episode cycle ending within the 9 AM hour on February 2nd, just in time for the next 30 to start at 10 AM EST.  Furthermore, if they end up airing episodes 4701, 4722, 4743, 4751, 4753, 4755, and 4781, then at 6 AM EST on Friday, we should loop back to 4581 one last time.

I don't know or think they air those seven, and if they don't, I guess there will be 7 hours to figure out before they get to the Drunken Models Episode

2/1 at 11 AM was 4742 and 12 PM was 4743. Since there are two skipped episodes between then and 4791, it's lined up perfectly for new episodes to start right after the next airing of 4791.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: MSTieScott on February 01, 2021, 02:20:05 PM
Did pool tables serve a different function in the 1980s? It seems like every time one is a prize, the plan for modeling it consists entirely of Dian sitting on the table.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on February 02, 2021, 04:15:48 PM
Just saw a car win on Switcheroo on one of the "new" episodes. Did they always use the clangs in this game? I don't believe I've seen any other wins in this game on Pluto.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: therealcu2010 on February 03, 2021, 07:15:35 AM
The way Bob is handling the malfunctioning Temptation scoreboard on this episode like nothing at all is wrong just reminds me of how Bob was so great at what he did...
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2021, 08:43:11 AM
I haven't seen very many of the new batch of episodes yet, but Bob has been a bit cringeworthy a couple of times.  Once, in conversation with the audience, referring to "this overweight woman over here" and he was quite obviously angry with a player who didn't understand Blank Check.  (It did take a long time to play).

That being said, I still love watching these old episodes.  I continue to be impressed with the number of jukeboxes, player pianos, and organs that show up as prizes.  And dry sink stereos (a thing I had never heard of).
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 03, 2021, 09:36:22 AM
There have been a lot of controversial moments.  Speaking of Blank Check, the comment made about "showing the women how to play the game" upon the first guy to play it probably doesn't get said today.

Love the old episodes overall & have no plans to stop while their on.  Most of the stuff isn't too bad as the times as I don't think it Bob meant to be negative.  Doesn't make it right, but different times.

As for the jukeboxes and other prizes, those are underrated.  IMO; I have a car.  Several people do.  Not everyone has a jukebox; others might need a new refrigerator or ceiling fan light
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Post by: C8 on February 03, 2021, 12:10:48 PM
Oh wow. Never seen the New Card Game premiere until now. What a trip. From Holly kicking Bob's mic out of his hands to the contestant using the ace under the new rules to end up overbidding by $9....its quite something VERY memorable.
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Post by: Spmahn on February 03, 2021, 12:26:09 PM

That being said, I still love watching these old episodes.  I continue to be impressed with the number of jukeboxes, player pianos, and organs that show up as prizes.  And dry sink stereos (a thing I had never heard of).

I have to wonder if the large number of pianos and other impractical prizes was being done as a budget saving effort, knowing that the majority of contestants would decline these prizes, so you save the budget without negatively impacting the show by having to setup games to lose.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on February 03, 2021, 05:45:25 PM
I always wonder how many people are going to use those personal airplane prizes.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on February 03, 2021, 06:02:51 PM
I don't know or think they air those seven, and if they don't, I guess there will be 7 hours to figure out before they get to the Drunken Models Episode

If I'm not mistaken all the marathon-related skips took place between Wednesday, January 20th, 2 PM ET and Wednesday, January 27th, 2 AM ET. So it looks like they skipped any marathon episodes that fell within 72 hours before the marathon started and 72 hours after it ended. There are episodes that could have been skipped on both those Wednesdays but weren't, so the 72-hour range seems correct because that means the "skip range" started at 6 AM on the first Wednesday and ended at 6 AM on the second Wednesday.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JediJones on February 03, 2021, 07:57:38 PM
I found this mention on their official Twitter channel saying if they skip an episode, it's probably due to a low quality tape that does not meet "broadcast standards." I'm not sure if a streaming channel really needs to meet broadcast standards though.

https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1336730770736467968?s=20

Bob Bobber
@borbobbery
·
Dec 9, 2020
Do you have any idea why episode 4633 was skipped?

The Price Is Right: The Barker Era
@TPIRBarker
·
Dec 9, 2020
Likely due to technical issues. If the quality once digitized does not meet current broadcast standards we won't be able to air it. That is likely why, we are trying to air everything in order.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 03, 2021, 08:32:59 PM
Totally enjoying the new batch of episodes. Some of my favorite moments, cringe excluded:

-- An extremely tall contestant gets on stage. Bob learns he is a basketball player, and Bob gets the staff to search for a basketball. Bob continues to mention the basketball and suggests tricks he could do throughout his pricing game. By the time they finally find one, it's the showcase showdown. Bob gives him the ball and urges him to do a trick. The contestant bounces it off the floor once, turns around, and bounces it off-screen with his butt. Bob: "That wasn't a trick; it was an opinion."

-- New Card Game gets introduced, and for a paint job and a few slight rule changes, it's treated with a lot of fanfare. The game is covered with a cloth when it is introduced, and Holly whisks it away to reveal the new design. As she goes, she catches Bob's mic cord on her foot and pulls it out of his hand, which Bob naturally makes a big deal out of. To add to the indignity, the contestant very narrowly overbids on her truck.

-- A contestant who has memorized a list of prices on the show makes an exact bid on an oddly-priced fireplace in Contestant's Row. Bob chats with her for a while and is extremely warm and encouraging about her studying up on prices. She goes on to win Check Out, money on the wheel, and a showcase.
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Post by: Briguy on February 03, 2021, 08:40:03 PM
Here’s a question that’s been dogging me and it was triggered by an episode aired on Pluto today:

That episide’s Golden Road playing was for a Chrysler LeVaron Mark Cross convertible, which was not won (due to the contestant losing on the second prize, a desk). On at least one other episode, I believe it was played for (also in Golden Road) and lost, also on the second prize, and it was offered (but not won) in a Showcase.

So ... does someone know whether the Chrysler LeBaron convertible was ever won in any episode it was played for but perhaps has yet to air. (For instance, maybe Hole In One.)

I just want to know how much it cost. I’m sure at least $15,000 (in 1983 dollars, natch).

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Wayoshi on February 03, 2021, 08:45:20 PM
There were no skips in these 30 episodes. Four uncertain lineups and two non-car PGs for cars were confirmed for the calendar, including Hurdles and Pick a Pair playings swapping episodes.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 03, 2021, 09:17:59 PM
Here’s a question that’s been dogging me and it was triggered by an episode aired on Pluto today:

That episide’s Golden Road playing was for a Chrysler LeVaron Mark Cross convertible, which was not won (due to the contestant losing on the second prize, a desk). On at least one other episode, I believe it was played for (also in Golden Road) and lost, also on the second prize, and it was offered (but not won) in a Showcase.

So ... does someone know whether the Chrysler LeBaron convertible was ever won in any episode it was played for but perhaps has yet to air. (For instance, maybe Hole In One.)

I just want to know how much it cost. I’m sure at least $15,000 (in 1983 dollars, natch).



Not sure; it could have surfaced again in another Golden Road playing but not until Season 12.  In addition to that, it may have been won within a showcase, and within an episode that isn't easily available online.  I probably would have to search for the price somewhere, but maybe we'll find out through future episodes at some point this year.  Just a total guess, but it may have been offered (and won) in 3 Strikes+ down the road. 


Another big highlight for me that was part of these last 30 episodes includes a woman who "crushed" the Grocery Game.  Her selection of Trident resulted in a super-perfect playing of the game.  28 of that product would have been a nice choice as well.  This was after being made fun of for being in contestant's row throughout.  I made a comment that she might have been bluffing Bob as much as the Clock Game winner did a couple segments prior.

That was a very nice Valentine's Day episode, complete with a hilarious showcase.  Speaking of which, it was the first of six episodes where the showcase podiums were reversed (similar to what they did throughout Season 20).  Not sure why that happened; it probably was just a mistake
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Post by: C8 on February 03, 2021, 11:03:20 PM
 Now that we’ve looped back to the start of season 11 after I spent the last two days watching the 30 additional eps, it’s becoming apparent to me Bob aged considerably over the course of S11. I know that we’re less than a year past Dorothy Jo’s passing at the start of 11. I wonder if that had a large impact.
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Post by: blozier2006 on February 03, 2021, 11:10:39 PM
Now that we’ve looped back to the start of season 11 after I spent the last two days watching the 30 additional eps, it’s becoming apparent to me Bob aged considerably over the course of S11. I know that we’re less than a year past Dorothy Jo’s passing at the start of 11. I wonder if that had a large impact.
Probably the largest impact, out of all the pre-90s events that happened with the show and those connected to it.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 08, 2021, 01:39:25 PM
Episode #4823 is great all around, but during the showcases things get absolutely heart-warming. The nervous and excited top winner, a women in her 30s or 40s, keeps herself calm by holding hands with the runner-up, a male college high-jumper. (The camera gets a close-up of this as one of the showcases is in progress) When deciding whether to bid or pass on Showcase 1, she asks the runner-up, "Do you want it?". The runner-up ultimately wins, and he and the top-winner hug each other and then they both hug Bob.
Almost lost in all this is a rare celebrity cameo, the mute clown Emmett Kelly, helping to present a circus showcase.

(Edit: Out of curiosity, I checked Wikipedia, and Emmett Kelly was in fact already dead by the time this episode taped. The man appearing in the showcase may have been his son, who also played Emmett Kelly's clown character, although apparently without his father's blessing, causing the two to become estranged.)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: vnisanian2001 on February 08, 2021, 06:44:51 PM
Why is Pluto inserting commercial breaks at random? They didn't do this with the first 100 episodes.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on February 08, 2021, 08:22:10 PM
It's not supposed to be. Pluto's pretty glitchy on some devices, though. It's a pain on Xfinity boxes. What's probably happening is that the feed is lagging on your device and the segment isn't finished by the time ads are cued to appear.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on February 08, 2021, 10:06:19 PM
New episodes at 2AM EST TODAY!

Welcome to TPIR: Barker Era, where we test if you REALLY want to watch all of the episodes first-rerun!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: saturn93 on February 08, 2021, 11:08:35 PM
Why is Pluto inserting commercial breaks at random? They didn't do this with the first 100 episodes.
They had a commercial break right in the middle of Penny Ante in the 5:00 PM Central time episode today.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 08, 2021, 11:41:12 PM
The commercial break that occurred in the middle of the showcases from the Valentine's Day episode, which re-aired at Midnight Eastern, occurred in the same exact spot when that episode first aired on Pluto last week.  I think happened to everyone
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on February 09, 2021, 12:53:01 AM
They're skipping an 4853D, so if you want to watch Master Key debut, it's now at 4AM instead of 5AM.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on February 09, 2021, 02:05:58 AM
Shame since that episode is shaded in gray on the pricing game calendar. Is that one unconfirmed because GSN never aired it, either?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 09, 2021, 09:11:06 AM
No April Fools episode, as it has been skipped.  There was a little speculation elsewhere that they could save 4865 to air on 04/01/2021.  However I don't think they'd skip it for that reason.  They aired the Christmas Episodes in order along with the Valentine's Day show, so that would go off of their routine
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on February 09, 2021, 01:25:40 PM
Spoilers for 4875D

There was another instance of a contestant getting all six GPs right but missing the putt from the closest line. That was painful to watch.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: supersaver87 on February 10, 2021, 09:23:00 AM
Shame since that episode is shaded in gray on the pricing game calendar. Is that one unconfirmed because GSN never aired it, either?

I don't know for sure, but I'm willing to bet this is the case. I checked quite a few collections for the skipped episode; traders have 3/22/83 and 3/24/83, but not the 23rd.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on February 11, 2021, 08:44:46 AM
I don't have a complete list of every show GSN did/didn't air but have semi-complete notes of the period and it's my understanding that 4853D was skipped by GSN as well back in the 90s. Barring an original broadcast turning up, I would consider it extremely unlikely we ever see that episode. 

From 4851D onwards to - as of this post - 4913D, every episode except for 4853D has aired either on GSN or Pluto.  Pluto's skipped around a half dozen that GSN aired, while Pluto's also aired a small number that GSN never broadcast for one reason or another (music clearance, damage to GSN's copy, pre-emption on GSN that wasn't made good by sliding schedule back a day)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: NickintheATL on February 12, 2021, 05:10:47 PM
One thing of note in the last batch of new episodes (and Steve has already noted this for me in the FAQ) is that Episode #4903D has the first use of the 1983 music package.

The cue is what TVPMM has listed as Track 2 - Theme 1 Synth Lead. More new music is heard throughout that show.

Can't wait to hear more of the new music in the episodes to be added!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on February 16, 2021, 09:28:57 PM
Another new batch of episodes will begin tonight (technically tomorrow) at midnight Eastern Time, starting with 4914D. We'll see if any episodes will be skipped like the last batch or if they'll run without skipping, as well as how many will be included in this batch.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on February 16, 2021, 10:32:12 PM
I don't have a complete list of every show GSN did/didn't air but have semi-complete notes of the period and it's my understanding that 4853D was skipped by GSN as well back in the 90s. Barring an original broadcast turning up, I would consider it extremely unlikely we ever see that episode.

I may have missed it, and if so I apologize, but do we have an official reason why 4853D may have been skipped and/or never rerun? (FWIW – Would correspond to an episode aired March 23, 1983.)

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 16, 2021, 10:49:10 PM
It's likely due to technical issues, as mentioned.  While Pluto didn't address this recent skip, they previously addressed what goes into the decision to skip episodes. 


Here is the post (https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1336730770736467968?s=20) from their Twitter account that might help explain what happened.  Thanks to JediJones for posting it upthread, as I had seen that back around the time they tweeted it, but was unable to locate it when this was inquired about a month or so ago
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on February 17, 2021, 12:47:20 AM
Spoiler for the first episode of the new batch 4914D:

Perfect show!!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on February 18, 2021, 02:42:06 AM
Just like the last two batches, this new batch is another 30 episodes, bringing it up to 190 as at 6 am Eastern they'll go back to 4581D once again.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 18, 2021, 08:30:52 AM
As a result, several of the newer episodes that aired overnight (EST) will air around the same time next week.  From there, when you factor in the final 10, which includes the last two episodes of the CBS Soaps Special, the week promoting TPHG, and then the first 3 of Season 12, that would get the total up to 200 by 2 PM on 02/26.


The good news is that the season finale & season premiere weeks air at a reasonable time.  Well the finale week wouldn't in terms of PST
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on February 18, 2021, 12:31:04 PM
Were any episodes skipped in the new batch? 4925D is gray on the calendar.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 18, 2021, 12:53:56 PM
No.  Nothing was skipped within the last 30 episodes.  Everything aired in order, including the 05/13/1983 show AKA 4925D (Temptation, Double Prices, Trader Bob, Clock Game, Penny Ante, New Card Game)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on February 18, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
when you factor in the final 10, which includes the last two episodes of the CBS Soaps Special

Small spoiler:  According to Chelsea, there's actually only one more of these -- CBS only had four soaps, so Friday was just a normal episode.

Were any episodes skipped in the new batch? 4925D is gray on the calendar.

I just haven't gotten around to e-mailing the new calendar to Scorpz yet.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on February 19, 2021, 04:24:10 AM
Small spoiler:  According to Chelsea, there's actually only one more of these -- CBS only had four soaps, so Friday was just a normal episode.

Correct.  Have the entire week (and most of the next two) from the GSN rerun era.  Monday-Thursday promoted each of CBS' four soaps at the time, while Friday was a normal show.

Monday promoted As the World Turns, Tuesday promoted Guiding Light, Wednesday promoted Young & the Restless.  Looking ahead and assuming no skips in the last ten, Thursday promotes Capitol (CBS' lone half hour soap by this point), and Friday is a normal show.  The subsequent week promotes Phone Home Game's imminent debut, and then to conclude there should be the first three shows from season 12, including the first two Phone Home Game playings (They played it five times the first two weeks - every other show)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pannoni1 on February 19, 2021, 03:41:40 PM
A couple of notes to the timeline that should be added:

*The purple-red-orange turntable patterns made their debut with the start of soaps week.
*For a brief period beginning on 4944D (5/26/83), whenever a game has its total prize package announced, a graphic in the same font as the Showcase Showdown win graphic at the time would appear. This only lasted five episodes IIRC.
*The first playing or two of Give or Keep had the top portion of its SP podiums still with the previous style on them with the new design on the lower portions of them, by the third playing (4932D), the top portions had matched the side with the G-T asterisks on them.
*Sometime in April, Clock Game's border and base changes from a dark green to a lighter green to better match with the green edges of the turntable. That same tone would last up until the next revision in Season 31.

Hopefully April Fool's could air as a special one-off around April Fool's itself right before the next batch of episodes are dropped.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 19, 2021, 05:54:14 PM
Hopefully April Fool's could air as a special one-off around April Fool's itself right before the next batch of episodes are dropped.

Maybe they learned from Christmas shows with that? Ie: Instead of airing it well before the day as they did with those initially, they realized it's better to hold it off till closer to/on it? Could see that.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: YouDangSkippy on February 19, 2021, 07:18:28 PM
On the second showcase on the 11/3/82 episode, who knows the name of that song in the background?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 19, 2021, 07:46:07 PM
If it's the showcase I'm thinking of, it's Dolly Parton's "9 to 5".

Speaking of showcase music in this era, I love how Herb Alpert's "Route 101" had a short run as a regular cue for showcases.

Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on February 24, 2021, 01:16:42 PM
I'm literally months behind but have them all saved and have been slowly going through, and something out of 4695D reallycaught my notice: After Card Game is a loss again because the contestant stopped way too soon, Bob goes on a rant about contestants stopping too early because cars are getting more expensive and his remarks are clearly directed to the show's brass.

Then he rants about it AGAIN before SCSD2 and throws in that they're about to have trouble with Dice Game too since the first digit can't start with more than a 6 and even some cheaper cars are creeping ever closer to $6000.

And it's only shortly after this that we start getting the phasing in of the changes to accommodate 5 digit/more expensive cars - starting with the exact two games Bob rants about in this episode. New Card Game happens in mid-March; Deluxe Dice Game happens in April.   Watching the season and this era in a megabinge, it's interesting how Bob's soapbox in this show foreshadows/suggests the very changes that happen within months - and at a time before he was even remotely as heavily involved in the show's production. 
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on February 24, 2021, 02:23:53 PM
In the older Pluto episodes, what was the song usually used during jukebox copies that was very saxophone heavy? I know they eventually switched to Hot Stuff by Donna Summer and We Are Family by Sister Sledge, but what was used before those songs, assuming that was also a "real" song?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SuperSweeper on February 24, 2021, 02:32:07 PM
In the older Pluto episodes, what was the song usually used during jukebox copies that was very saxophone heavy? I know they eventually switched to Hot Stuff by Donna Summer and We Are Family by Sister Sledge, but what was used before those songs, assuming that was also a "real" song?

Donna Summer’s “On the Radio”?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on February 24, 2021, 02:44:25 PM
Thanks! I didn't know it was that song because I didn't remember it having such a long instrumental part. Just looked it up on Spotify. On the shorter version of the song, the portion heard on Price is around the 2:55 mark.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 24, 2021, 04:08:56 PM

Then he rants about it AGAIN before SCSD2 and throws in that they're about to have trouble with Dice Game too since the first digit can't start with more than a 6 and even some cheaper cars are creeping ever closer to $6000.

One thing I love about this rant, is Bob says words to the effect of “Car prices now start with 5s, and *some* 6s!” Forgetting that Card Game had just been lost for by a $7000 car, and the show had all but stopped offering cars worth less than $6000 since the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on February 24, 2021, 04:20:50 PM
Herb Alpert's "Route 101" reached No. 37 on the Billboard Hot 100 in August 1982.

BTW: If your area has a radio station that plays "American Top 40: The 80s" – for those who don't know, that's reruns of the classic radio countdown program; they have a 1970s version, too – there's a chance that if a program anytime from July 31 through Aug. 21 (four different weeks) is rerun, you will hear this song introduced by Casey Kasem.

Sorry but I can't say if there's a story about "Route 101" being used on TPiR. (Although I would think it's highly unlikely they did.)

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on February 24, 2021, 04:29:01 PM
I'm literally months behind but have them all saved and have been slowly going through, and something out of 4695D reallycaught my notice: After Card Game is a loss again because the contestant stopped way too soon, Bob goes on a rant about contestants stopping too early because cars are getting more expensive and his remarks are clearly directed to the show's brass.

Then he rants about it AGAIN before SCSD2 and throws in that they're about to have trouble with Dice Game too since the first digit can't start with more than a 6 and even some cheaper cars are creeping ever closer to $6000.

And it's only shortly after this that we start getting the phasing in of the changes to accommodate 5 digit/more expensive cars - starting with the exact two games Bob rants about in this episode. New Card Game happens in mid-March; Deluxe Dice Game happens in April.   Watching the season and this era in a megabinge, it's interesting how Bob's soapbox in this show foreshadows/suggests the very changes that happen within months - and at a time before he was even remotely as heavily involved in the show's production.

Question: I know some people go off about Drew Carey and alleged poor sportsmanship on his part, but – even though it could be argued Bob was siding with the contestants here – that his ranting on about car prices and the high loss rate of Dice Game, Card Game, etc., could also be considered "poor sportsmanship." Even though he is siding with the contestants and wants the game set for a reasonable chance to win.

To that end, it also seemed Barker was a poor sport when contestants lost the Race Game (and sometimes, Take Two) when sports tickets were offered, saying "they don't get it" ... referring to the price structure and that more games might logically mean higher prices and the contestants seeming to not catch on. That's just one example from shows now being seen on Pluto but there's I'm sure plenty of others.

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: blozier2006 on February 24, 2021, 04:53:07 PM
Seeing these "rants" surprises me, since I didn't think "grumpy Barker" was a thing until the late 90s/early 00s.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 24, 2021, 05:06:50 PM
To that end, it also seemed Barker was a poor sport when contestants lost the Race Game (and sometimes, Take Two) when sports tickets were offered, saying "they don't get it" ... referring to the price structure and that more games might logically mean higher prices and the contestants seeming to not catch on. That's just one example from shows now being seen on Pluto but there's I'm sure plenty of others.

Brian

There's a playing of Ten Chances somewhere in this period or before where he makes a comment as they go to break after a contestant loses a turn or two if I recall due to taking too much time, about how he hates when they go slow, or words to that effect. I'd need to find it to actually quote him verbatim, but it was something along those lines.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 24, 2021, 05:13:06 PM
Meh.  I never saw the season tickets loss as Bob being grumpy.  Maybe just saddened that a "nice" prize in season tickets being left on the table but pissed off.  Nope.  Not for me.


FWIW, Bob being mad at people losing Danger Price & Take Two for season tickets is a waste of time.  OTOH, I think it's fair enough if a player gets wiped out in Race Game.  That game shouldn't be lost outright at all, but that's just my opinion
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: GuyWithFace on February 24, 2021, 09:23:26 PM
Then he rants about it AGAIN before SCSD2 and throws in that they're about to have trouble with Dice Game too since the first digit can't start with more than a 6 and even some cheaper cars are creeping ever closer to $6000.
And yet, somehow, the show would manage to continue using the 4-digit version of Dice Game all the way through to the January 8, 1988 episode.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: wink87 on February 25, 2021, 05:03:26 AM
And yet, somehow, the show would manage to continue using the 4-digit version of Dice Game all the way through to the January 8, 1988 episode.

I'd like to know the price of the car in that final 4 digit Dice Game playing....my guess is it probably was a Geo Metro or something along those lines.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SamJ93 on February 25, 2021, 06:39:09 AM
I'd like to know the price of the car in that final 4 digit Dice Game playing....my guess is it probably was a Geo Metro or something along those lines.

A quick Google search led to this document (PDF) (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.michigan.gov/documents/1988combca_19798_7.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjs9KfU94TvAhWnAZ0JHXwADDEQFjAAegQIARAC&usg=AOvVaw2IQUhKkxhuM_1QihcpUEgx) showing the base price of just about every new car in 1988, and there are actually more 4-digit Dice Game-friendly prices on there than I thought there would be. Including the Chevrolet Sprint (the forerunner to the Geo Metro) and Subaru Justy (which are the most likely models for what that last playing was), I count 8 different models that could be used with the right options.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 25, 2021, 08:29:45 AM
Except for recently, TPiR kept a minimum standard of car-niceness so that the cheapest cars seen on the show were always a couple of thousand dollars more than the cheapest car prices that actually existed at the time. In 1983, the year the episodes currently showing on Pluto are from, there were a number of cars with a MSRP in the $4000s and $5000s, but I guess the makers of the show felt it would look cheap (or even shady, if the cars were considered unsafe) to offer such low-priced vehicles. In 1983, the only time you might see a car under $6000 is if its price is not directly revealed, like in Master Key or Safe Crackers.

For a long time, the guideline for the minimum value of showcases (if there actually was one) looks like it was "must cost as least as much as the cheapest new car on the market". On the Pluto episodes, you occasionally see showcases in the $4000s, and pretty regularly in the $5000s. At some point not too much beyond 1983, they bumped up the minimum-niceness level of the showcases.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pannoni1 on February 25, 2021, 08:30:43 AM
Another side effect about the introduction of Deluxe Dice Game that I've pointed out outside of this forum is that it allowed for Golden Road to start offering grand prizes in the mid-high $10K range based upon the final three playings of the season. 4834D offered a mediocre Chrysler LeBaron coupe at barely over $10K, and as you know a rather unimpressive Cadillac Cimarron was also offered earlier in the season. $10,000 surely didn't go as far by 1983 like it did in 1975, where you'd see those nice Cadillacs and Corvettes. But a $14K V8 Mustang, a $17K motorhome, and a $19K Cadillac Eldorado in that order rounded out S11 on the Golden Road, and suddenly the cars in the Cimarron/LeBaron range found a new home on Deluxe Dice Game. Season 12 will bring out the first G-R grand prizes above $20,000 to continue the trend, including the first C4 Corvette.

Speaking of jukebox cues, I've also heard Olivia Newtown-John's "Physical" and The Human League's "Don't You Want Me" on the latest set. Both big #1 hits in 1981-82 and the latter was even used as a Showcase cue.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 25, 2021, 09:00:02 AM
I also wonder whether the addition of Deluxe Dice Game (and eventually other 5-digit car games) made them feel more OK to downgrade Hole in One to regular cars and offer the second putt as compensation.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on February 25, 2021, 12:29:06 PM
Another side effect about the introduction of Deluxe Dice Game that I've pointed out outside of this forum is that it allowed for Golden Road to start offering grand prizes in the mid-high $10K range based upon the final three playings of the season. 4834D offered a mediocre Chrysler LeBaron coupe at barely over $10K, and as you know a rather unimpressive Cadillac Cimarron was also offered earlier in the season.

IIRC, the Chrysler LeBaron convertible that was offered in Golden Road had the Mark Cross leather package among its options, bumping the price of a base-model convertible (with no options) from the mid-$11,000 range to $15,012. And it was likely optioned-out, so – as we never knew what the exact price was, since in the two playings I've seen where the car was the grand prize it was not reached – my guess was that the car's price was somewhere near $16,000. Which is quite nice for 1982-1983.

The Cadillac Cimarron was $14,100, based on episodes that aired earlier in the season ... which was still a couple thousand more than what I suspect was the least-expensive grand prize for Golden Road in Season 11: the Mazda RX-7. (Some playings had Mazda's sports car at just barely above $10,000, although I'm guessing that for Golden Road playings the car had a few more options listed to put it in the $12,000-$13,000 range.)

At least that's better than what I suspect was the least-expensive car ever offered in Golden Road: A $10,990 Audi during the 1980-1981 season; a fully-optioned Chevrolet Caprice Classic sedan (including an aftermarket Astroroof) cost $1,500-$2,000 more than that Audi's price the same year. Now, Audis go for well over $50,000 and some have been Golden Road prizes at well over $75,000.

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: MrPlinko on February 25, 2021, 12:34:03 PM
Is Pluto TV editing episodes now?

Watching S11 EP 4943 Very choppy. Several Contestants Row edits. Also, does Bob know where the car cards are in Money Game? He built up suspense with 17 being the last number, before all money cards were filled and 17 was the back of the car!

Have not watched regulatory, so forgive if this is an obvious question.

Joe
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 25, 2021, 12:58:24 PM
Yeah, I just had 4942 in the background last hour, and it was a mess.  It goes without saying that I likely need to get a new computer and a new Roku.  Plus, I will be relocating not to long from now, likely in a better spot for Internet service (and maybe a better provider).  Everything and anything helps, but even so the quality of the episodes and stream are fair enough.

Recently it has been rather choppy for me as well.  Several people have said the same thing.  It's not perfect and while one can improve his or her situation, there's only so much one can do.

For Money Game, it wouldn't appear that he knows where the winning numbers are; I've seen Bob go through 7 out of 9 or 8 out of 9 choices.  Could be suspense or just not knowing because he doesn't need to know.  Someone else might know the real answer, but whenever they're running short on time you'd think he would go to the correct response (be it Money Game or even Five Price Tags) right away if he knew (or if the producers signaled the correct decision)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 25, 2021, 01:15:38 PM
I think the choppiness might be some kind of signal problem, but I´m not sure.

Re: Money Game, I don´t know if Bob knew the locations of the car cards because he always stated he preferred for results to be as much of a surprise to him as the contestant; however, more often than not, I can see a win coming based on how Bob pulls the reveal. He´s more likely to do some kind of buildup for a win. I wonder if, like he mentioned one time in old-style Pick a Pair, he could see behind the cards well enough to tell whether it was going to be a win or not.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: saturn93 on February 25, 2021, 01:33:34 PM
I hope it is just that with a signal issue.  Watching 4944 on my phone small screen, and I do see some jumps in scene.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: C8 on February 25, 2021, 01:40:10 PM
Its been very choppy for me as well. You'll notice the commercials run short then it goes to a blue screen with a prize cue, then the show. Something seems to be wrong at Pluto. I'm sure they have all of 3 people working for them so who knows when it will get fixed.

Bob seems to know the producer's tricks with Money Game. Hence him always checking for "old el cheapo" or the old "front and back trick" before going elsewhere. If you watch enough episodes you'll see the producers loved to have fun with the placements and Bob knew it.

Remember in some ways, too, Bob is like us now. He was there for every show. When you offer the same prizes over and over again you get to know the prices.

There's also times when wins or losses are [super] obvious and Bob knew how to play it up.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: MSTieScott on February 25, 2021, 01:54:50 PM
I don't know about the original Money Game board, but on the current board, when you stand right up against it, you can see deep enough behind some of the numbers to determine whether or not there's a dollar sign back there.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 25, 2021, 02:13:45 PM
Remember in some ways, too, Bob is like us now. He was there for every show. When you offer the same prizes over and over again you get to know the prices.

There's also times when wins or losses are [super] obvious and Bob knew how to play it up.


This woulda been seen a lot in Barker's Bargain Bar especially......or Most Expensive. He might a comment like "I don't like your chances....." or...."I think you're a winner....." when a price was so high or so low before the final one was revealed. Even then, sometimes he got it wrong though, but more often than not he did not.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on February 25, 2021, 03:59:08 PM
I hope it is just that with a signal issue.  Watching 4944 on my phone small screen, and I do see some jumps in scene.

I think that's all this is, quite honestly. I've had some issues with signal and jumps as well.

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Briguy on February 25, 2021, 04:02:02 PM
Also, does Bob know where the car cards are in Money Game? He built up suspense with 17 being the last number, before all money cards were filled and 17 was the back of the car!

I don't know if he did know. That said, the only one I could see ever knowing the answer beforehand was never a host of TPiR, and that would be Bob Eubanks. (Given how he appeared to run Card Sharks' bonus game in Money Cars – i.e., where the "CAR" card was; and the bonus round of Dream House (appearing to know the combination immediately upon an incorrect guess.)

But that could just have been preference or Eubanks asking for signals from offstage. It's just a guess, but Barker might simply have wanted to have the answers kept secret to help build suspense and keep the idea of playing along with the contestant.

Brian
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Brian44 on February 25, 2021, 06:32:40 PM
It seems to me that Take Two was the only PG in which Bob received any sort of signal as to the correct answer. Am I missing any others?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 25, 2021, 07:36:28 PM
Other than the Phone Home Game & maybe Shell Game, Take Two is the only one that comes to mind.  Post 1983, maybe you could add in Master Key in terms of which key to start with, but Take Two is the most obvious one in terms of any signals from the producers toward the right price.

For The PHG and Shell Game, I was referring to winning and losing (or winning $10,000).

IMO, it probably was best if Bob didn't know especially if you had a contestant that could get a read off of him, which I'd say that wasn't going to happen regardless
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2021, 10:34:30 PM
I believe Bob knew where the ball was because he could feel it when he was moving the shells around at the beginning of the game.  He made a few comments to that effect on the Pluto episodes we've seen - once stating that the producers has lost track of where the ball was but he knew where it was, and once where he asked the audience if they'd seen where the ball was because he had done that before shuffling them around.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 25, 2021, 11:25:37 PM
I believe Bob knew where the ball was because he could feel it when he was moving the shells around at the beginning of the game.  He made a few comments to that effect on the Pluto episodes we've seen - once stating that the producers has lost track of where the ball was but he knew where it was, and once where he asked the audience if they'd seen where the ball was because he had done that before shuffling them around.

I do remember those.  Especially when the ball was revealed a little bit; the contestant, I believe did not see it.  Folks at home, the audience, and Bob noticed that.  She ended up putting that chip in the winning spot 4th if not 3rd.

Of course there was a time the folks at home, the audience, and Bob knew which shell didn't have the ball, but that likely won't air on Pluto until 2100.

I do like the suspense, even when it's for the $500 bonus.  There was at least one episode in later years where Bob didn't do that (he just went down the line, and the contestant won with two shells left to be revealed).

Maybe they learned from Christmas shows with that? Ie: Instead of airing it well before the day as they did with those initially, they realized it's better to hold it off till closer to/on it? Could see that.

Sadly I disagree.  They aired the Valentine's Day episode early before it ended up airing again on February 14.  I think they could've aired it once or twice given how they're operating before pulling it.  With 200 episodes by Friday, February 26, the spot it would air would occur a couple of times before 4/1.

Thanks to Steve & Chelsea RE: Episode Count for Soap Opera Week.  I could've sworn they did something the entire week despite having only 4 at the time.  I might not catch the episodes again on Pluto, but the stream is not working properly.  That might be cause for concern during the 4AM to 2PM period (Eastern)

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A couple of notes to the timeline that should be added:

Took out most of Pannoni's post, but I think in addition to that, looks like the $900 cards in Card Game were added by 05/02/1983 4911D.  Might have been sooner, but I don't know if it was sooner since they weren't drawn

Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: ooboh on February 26, 2021, 12:02:25 AM
A semi-related question for the thread: when did the show start display lower-third graphics for a cash game win (Grand Game, Punch-a-Bunch, Showcase Showdown, etc.)? Were they around the same time, or were they implemented in different eras?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: tpirfan28 on February 26, 2021, 06:52:12 AM
Very creative editing at two points on 4981D to cover up the PHG plugs.  John’s bumper is split in two and Bob just plugs the game.

Broken Dice Game on the same show plays out interestingly.  Doesn’t really effect the outcome of the game (forced 6 first digit, two 6 rolls on 2/3) even though it should have given the contestant an advantage over the normal rules.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 26, 2021, 08:02:23 AM
A very unusual and awkward blooper occurs in 4982's playing of Any Number: When the contestant picks 8, the 6 appears in the medium prize (rocking chairs). Everyone is briefly at a loss over what to do. First Bob says, "The 6 is free...wait, she doesn't want the six!" Instead, he simply suggests she not choose six, commenting "We know she's not gonna win those rockers!" Bob asks them to turn off the six, but that never happens. His elegant solution is to pull out his handkerchief and tuck it into the board as best as he can, draping it over the still-lit 6.

Eventually she wins the piggy bank, but after the break, Bob announces that since the contestant might have won the rockers if she hadn't been deliberately avoiding the 6, the producers have awarded them to her. The audience urges him to give her the car, which he declines to do, but he generously lets her keep the $8 piggy bank.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: thatvhstapeguy on February 26, 2021, 08:40:09 AM
Video still skipping around. It seems to be the worst during the IFUBs. Commercial timing is also slightly off.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on February 26, 2021, 09:13:21 AM
Assuming Pluto indeed stops with 4993D (we'll know later today), that leaves them 98 episodes away from the last episode GSN aired in 2000 (#5194D, 2/9/1984)

Assuming no skips and another 100 episodes in Cycle 3 in a couple months, that would get a minimum of two definitely never aired on GSN shows. Any skips increase this number obviously, and there are least a couple of shows from S12 that GSN likely did skip prior to that date as well based on the available tapes and unconfirmed lineups.

At that point, aside from a single Christmas '84 episode, GSN never aired anything from the daytime run between 2/1984 to 9/1986 -- giving Pluto a solid two and a half years of reruns that haven't been seen since original broadcast. Cycle 4 would also offer an interesting dilemma - what to do with 5212D, a half hour episode.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 26, 2021, 11:05:32 AM
Season 12 premiere on Pluto now!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: NickintheATL on February 26, 2021, 12:08:50 PM
At that point, aside from a single Christmas '84 episode, GSN never aired anything from the daytime run between 2/1984 to 9/1986 -- giving Pluto a solid two and a half years of reruns that haven't been seen since original broadcast. Cycle 4 would also offer an interesting dilemma - what to do with 5212D, a half hour episode.

That's not exactly true. I have a few episodes that they shows from this range - most of them were from WinTV.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on February 26, 2021, 01:13:04 PM
That's not exactly true. I have a few episodes that they shows from this range - most of them were from WinTV.

I stand absolutely corrected. Thumbed through a few collections and what I said holds true for episodes outside of Win TV (Although at least a couple other shows appear to have turned up during that weird phase in '96 when the show first started popping up in random slots), so GSN *did* go there, but not routinely. (compared to 1996-98 when they were running a different season daily and 1998-00 when they just burned through 9/82 to 2/84 in order)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 26, 2021, 01:18:34 PM
I stand absolutely corrected. Thumbed through a few collections and what I said holds true for episodes outside of Win TV (Although at least a couple other shows appear to have turned up during that weird phase in '96 when the show first started popping up in random slots), so GSN *did* go there, but not routinely. (compared to 1996-98 when they were running a different season daily and 1998-00 when they just burned through 9/82 to 2/84 in order)

They ran them in different slots besides the 8am and 4pm Win TV slots? I wasn't aware of that.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 26, 2021, 01:23:07 PM
Very creative editing at two points on 4981D to cover up the PHG plugs.  John’s bumper is split in two and Bob just plugs the game.

Broken Dice Game on the same show plays out interestingly.  Doesn’t really effect the outcome of the game (forced 6 first digit, two 6 rolls on 2/3) even though it should have given the contestant an advantage over the normal rules.

What was the Broken Dice Game about? How were the rules different?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on February 26, 2021, 01:27:39 PM
Nothing much different, except that immediately after the contestant guessed 'higher' or 'lower', the correct number was revealed.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pannoni1 on February 26, 2021, 03:54:44 PM
It seems to me that Take Two was the only PG in which Bob received any sort of signal as to the correct answer. Am I missing any others?

Bob often asks "What should she/he have taken?" upon a loss which leads to a signal by the staff/pages.

Looks like with the arrival of Season 12, the interior of the Clamshell design changed again, with a pattern of zigzags ranging from dark blue to white. This appears to be the final interior design before the entire Clam gets a revamp for Season 13.

The playing of Dice Game following the "Broken" playing on the second show of S12 still featured two of the numbers lighting up in the wrong places, with one of them not working in its proper position. This was the second playing of five digit Deluxe Dice. The third show of S12 also confirms that the first playing of 5-digit 3 Strikes (+) would be on the next playing after that one. Finally, the first three shows of the new season featured an experimental wide arrow split-screen graphic used during the Showcase Showdown. For the first few months of S12, this version would appear frequently before reverting back to the narrow arrow graphic.

Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: supersaver87 on February 26, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
That's not exactly true. I have a few episodes that they shows from this range - most of them were from WinTV.

How many were there? I'm only aware of three, all from WinTV.

The three I know are 5412D from 9/25/84, 5432D from 10/9/84, and 5791D from 9/9/85 (the 14th season premiere).

They ran them in different slots besides the 8am and 4pm Win TV slots? I wasn't aware of that.

One oddity about that...at least one recollection states that a syndicated episode aired on one of those days, but no one appears to have had the VCR rolling for it.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 26, 2021, 06:57:41 PM
One oddity about that...at least one recollection states that a syndicated episode aired on one of those days, but no one appears to have had the VCR rolling for it.

A syndicated episode from the 70's or 80's? And for that matter which host? I know much of Kennedy's one year run if not all of it aired on the network. So I assume it may have been the former?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 26, 2021, 07:02:57 PM
The playing of Dice Game following the "Broken" playing on the second show of S12 still featured two of the numbers lighting up in the wrong places, with one of them not working in its proper position. This was the second playing of five digit Deluxe Dice.

Didn't they have a playing earlier in these first almost 200 shows, where the spotlights didn't work at all on the monitors, and as a result they just lit up the actual number in the price of the car with each roll instead of waiting for the end? I recall seeing that, but I forget if it was from YouTube or within these shows somewhere. If it was, they seemed to have had some issues with the game around this time, between that and these two incidents not too long after it.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: supersaver87 on February 26, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
A syndicated episode from the 70's or 80's? And for that matter which host? I know much of Kennedy's one year run if not all of it aired on the network. So I assume it may have been the former?

If this is correct, it was a 1978 episode, which GSN aired on Oct. 28, 1996. Imad Khuri caught the tail end of it, too late to tape it. He never did find a copy, unfortunately.

Here's the post where Imad is asking for it: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.tv.game-shows/c/MQhEmcMgCsE/m/5_uIgY_KkeYJ
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 26, 2021, 09:00:06 PM
If this is correct, it was a 1978 episode, which GSN aired on Oct. 28, 1996. Imad Khuri caught the tail end of it, too late to tape it. He never did find a copy, unfortunately.

Here's the post where Imad is asking for it: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.tv.game-shows/c/MQhEmcMgCsE/m/5_uIgY_KkeYJ

Man that woulda be gold....there's only one other episode of his portion of the Nighttime run otherwise available, that of course being the finale in 1980. Hopefully it turns up one of these days.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on February 27, 2021, 01:42:11 PM
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Price did a half hour episode in 1978 (2714D, OAD 3/2/1978) that coincides with a part of the run that GSN otherwise DID air in 1996-98, and all available info I have says GSN never touched the syndicated run. (As for why: Too many furs, even compared to the daytime show, to make it worth airing)

I can't say definitively that it wasn't a syndicated episode, but I would consider it 999999999% more likely that this is the episode in question. And info was so sufficiently less available at the time that "a half hour Price episode dated to 1978" could absolutely pass off as being a nighttime show
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on February 27, 2021, 02:07:43 PM
so looking through the calendars at the next few years, I've found the *single* episode I most want Pluto to air. 

5864D. 10/31/1985.  If the lineup in the calendars is correct or at least the correct list of games (it's unconfirmed), not just four but FIVE retired games in one episode - almost certainly the most of any episode in the entire run.  Give or Keep, On the Nose, Poker Game, Bump, 3 Strikes, Penny Ante

Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 27, 2021, 02:13:06 PM
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Price did a half hour episode in 1978 (2714D, OAD 3/2/1978) that coincides with a part of the run that GSN otherwise DID air in 1996-98, and all available info I have says GSN never touched the syndicated run. (As for why: Too many furs, even compared to the daytime show, to make it worth airing)

I can't say definitively that it wasn't a syndicated episode, but I would consider it 999999999% more likely that this is the episode in question. And info was so sufficiently less available at the time that "a half hour Price episode dated to 1978" could absolutely pass off as being a nighttime show

Looking at FAQ, there were some 8 half hour shows in 78, 6 in Season 6 where this came from (or 1 per month basically from January), and 2 in Season 7. Did they air Season 7 at all in that time span? If not it'd have likely been 1 of the 6 from 6 from what you said.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Wayoshi on February 27, 2021, 02:15:16 PM
Yes, that is the only 5 retired game I can find, three others with 4.

Code: [Select]
4 lineups found in S1-49 for any RETIRED game (x4,5,6), played in any slot

        S      AIRDATE                 PG1                 PG2             PG3         PG4            PG5             PG6
5864D  14  Oct 31 1985    Give or Keep (^)     On the Nose (^)  Poker Game (^)    Bump (^)  3 Strikes (^)  Penny Ante (^)
6201D  15  Sep 29 1986        Give or Keep  Most Expensive (T)      Any Number  Poker Game     Add 'em Up      Penny Ante
6882D  16  May 10 1988          Shell Game          Poker Game      Add 'em Up        Bump      3 Strikes      Penny Ante
8184D  20  Nov 14 1991  Super Ball!! (car)       Double Prices     Credit Card        Bump    $uper $aver       Dice Game
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on February 27, 2021, 05:47:27 PM
If we're talking about weird novelty lineups, in Season 12, the one I'm most excited for is 5312D, May 1st.

Barker's Bargain Bar, Phone Home Game,  Clock Game,  Poker Game,  Money Game, and Balance Game '84: 5 out of 6 games end in "Game", and the sixth one nowadays is known as "Bargain Game". There have been several other lineups that had 5 games end in "Game", but never all six, so this is the closest we're getting.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on February 27, 2021, 08:17:25 PM
Technically, BBB was officially known as Bargain Game back then; well on paper.  FWIW, this did cross my mind a couple years ago, so it's rather neat to see all the games end in "Game" within a single line-up.  Of course, Bob often added "game" to pretty much every game played on the show around that time, but AFAIK those other games that didn't end in that word didn't end with the word "game" officially
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: tpir72 on February 28, 2021, 02:00:22 AM
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Price did a half hour episode in 1978 (2714D, OAD 3/2/1978) that coincides with a part of the run that GSN otherwise DID air in 1996-98, and all available info I have says GSN never touched the syndicated run. (As for why: Too many furs, even compared to the daytime show, to make it worth airing)

I can't say definitively that it wasn't a syndicated episode, but I would consider it 999999999% more likely that this is the episode in question. And info was so sufficiently less available at the time that "a half hour Price episode dated to 1978" could absolutely pass off as being a nighttime show

One reason I know the said episode from 1978 was nighttime was because there was a “contestants not appearing on stage” segment during the end credits.

Imad

EDITED by Steve to fix quoting.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on February 28, 2021, 02:34:29 AM
One reason I know the said episode from 1978 was nighttime was because there was a “contestants not appearing on stage” segment during the end credits.

How does that tell us it wasn't a daytime show?  It's not like we have any other half-hour episodes from that era to compare it to.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 28, 2021, 03:03:16 AM
How does that tell us it wasn't a daytime show?  It's not like we have any other half-hour episodes from that era to compare it to.

Well the Kennedy nighttime shows did this, as does the 1980 finale with Barker just checking it and James era before it by looks of it comparing it to that. Whether they did it on other daytime half hour shows of the time is hard to say, although I can tell you looking at the 84 half hour special episode, they did the plug before the showcases vs. after, so I would tend to assume earlier standalones did the same thing. Could be wrong, but that'd be my guess.

The best way to know though for sure what it was? How Bob closed the show. On the 1980 finale he said used the phrase "Good night everybody" as opposed to "Good-bye everybody.", as he would have done on a daytime show. If he said it in this one as well, then it was a nighttime show for sure. Would you remember which it was Imad?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: blozier2006 on February 28, 2021, 03:22:42 AM
Something that would clinch it being a nighttime show... was there any mention of Viacom in the credit roll?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on February 28, 2021, 03:27:24 AM
Something that would clinch it being a nighttime show... was there any mention of Viacom in the credit roll?

Another thing too that I thought of after the fact, would be the Showcases. They were always MUCH bigger than the daytime show then, in prizes and cost both, into the 5 digit range big time by this point. So like the close, if they were on par with other nighttime shows of the time, that also would be a tell.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Thrasher on February 28, 2021, 11:05:20 PM
I'm not saying it wasn't, but I'm saying it was extremely unlikely it was a nighttime show.  And barring the actual footage turning up, it's probably going to be unknown. But all the data and info I have says GSN never touched the 70s nighttime version on-air.

I mean this super lovingly but as someone there at the time, a lot of the things said actively and in passing on ATGS back in the day were said with the info that we had at the time.  Which was very, very incomplete and only a small fraction of what's known now. 
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: thatvhstapeguy on March 02, 2021, 04:50:06 PM
Something that would clinch it being a nighttime show... was there any mention of Viacom in the credit roll?

I second looking for this, that's the biggest giveaway.
I've encountered references to Viacom's animated logo at the time (that zooming purple V with the bad synthesizer) being on syndie Price but haven't found any actual evidence of that yet.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on March 02, 2021, 05:47:57 PM
I second looking for this, that's the biggest giveaway.
I've encountered references to Viacom's animated logo at the time (that zooming purple V with the bad synthesizer) being on syndie Price but haven't found any actual evidence of that yet.

That actually would be the second biggest...thinking on it now, the biggest would to me be....the light border in the opening. If you recall, by Bob's period as seen with the finale, they didn't use the full on border the daytime show had. They used the star effect instead. So if we saw that, we'd know with 100% certainty it is nighttime.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on March 02, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Ok I'm annoyed. I tried to go the live channel directly for first time in a while, just to see what was on it/watch a little bit to kill some time, and for some reason, Pluto each time I try redirects me to the featured channel (which right now is Paramount + ), makes getting to the stream a major pain in the ass. Who thought doing this was a good idea? Anyone else getting this? I assume it's not just me.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: supersaver87 on March 02, 2021, 09:34:34 PM
Ok I'm annoyed. I tried to go the live channel directly for first time in a while, just to see what was on it/watch a little bit to kill some time, and for some reason, Pluto each time I try redirects me to the featured channel (which right now is Paramount + ), makes getting to the stream a major pain in the ass. Who thought doing this was a good idea? Anyone else getting this? I assume it's not just me.

Not just you, happens to me all the time! Not a fan of it at all.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on March 02, 2021, 09:36:20 PM
Not just you, happens to me all the time! Not a fan of it at all.

When did they start doing this? Sounds like it's been going on a while? I haven't watched really in a good month or so at least.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on March 02, 2021, 09:49:44 PM
^They changed the URL from https://pluto.tv/live-tv/tpir-the-barker-era (https://pluto.tv/live-tv/tpir-the-barker-era) to https://pluto.tv/live-tv/the-price-is-right-the-barker-era (https://pluto.tv/live-tv/the-price-is-right-the-barker-era) for some reason, so since "tpir-the-barker-era" isn't a valid tag anymore, it redirects to the default featured channel.

https://pluto.tv/live-tv/163 (https://pluto.tv/live-tv/163) also works, and should work until they reshuffle the channels.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 02, 2021, 09:56:05 PM
Pluto has been dealing with a ton of issues, at least on my end, but as of March 2021, each link works for me.  I've accessed the channel on several devices, so maybe one's "featured channel" differs from someone else.  I don't know; I was directed to something else other than TPIR in the past, but that only occurred a couple times at most
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: johnnymatch on March 05, 2021, 11:14:07 PM
Question: Who is the woman who, on many Barker Era shows, is seated in the front row next to the chair with “right” on it.  She is always dressed nicely, calmly waving and smiling. I sense she’s with CBS or G/T.
Look forward to learning. 
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 06, 2021, 12:52:51 AM
Question: Who is the woman who, on many Barker Era shows, is seated in the front row next to the chair with “right” on it.  She is always dressed nicely, calmly waving and smiling. I sense she’s with CBS or G/T.
Look forward to learning.

That’s Gina Edwards Nyman. I asked Roger Dobkowitz about her... She always sat next to the Green chair that had “RIGHT” written on it... and she always waved to the camera, she had brown hair then. She’s still with the show. The only others from the BARKER era that are still working with the show are Stan Blits
And Adam Sandler
With the show
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: holdme on March 06, 2021, 04:18:11 PM
I noticed that starting with episode 4991, the Pluto TV guide still lists this as season 11 instead of 12.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: johnnymatch on March 06, 2021, 05:14:56 PM
And now I know. Thank you.  (Sorry, I wasn’t logged on back in December. Thanks for not reminding me.)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: publisher on March 06, 2021, 05:22:10 PM
Apropos of nothing, I suppose this has to do with the frequency they were played during this era, but I adore both Poker Game and Hit Me more than ever. I was only 10 when these episodes aired, so I didn't understand either game that much at the time. I got the reasons for their retirement when it happened (though I still lament Hit Me's loss -- it's a fantastic game), but these episodes remind me how much I miss them both.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Nick on March 07, 2021, 10:04:07 AM
In this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfLfbtw-NZo) clip, Marc pulled this nifty splitscreen shot of the car on the final roll of Dice Game.

Had the contestant rolled the correct number, it would have been an immediate win at this point.  Do we know if this shot was used exclusively in this scenario, or were there other occasions where he would pull this shot on the final roll?  The only comparable shot I can think of is when he would pull a similar shot in Ten Chances on guesses for the car.  I've noticed Marc liked to get shots of cars, if possible, the moment before they were won.

Because if it is the former, wow, it's a bit of a rare find.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: jhc2010 on March 07, 2021, 11:24:52 AM
Major fail I’m that clip. The roll wasn’t even visible on camera because of the split-screen. Maybe that’s why we rarely saw this shot. I’ll bet it was discontinued in Dice Game shortly after this episode.

He also liked to use the split screen in Ten Chances but that was annoying because the numbers in the price of the car became invisible when the split-screen went up.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Nick on March 07, 2021, 11:29:12 AM
Major fail I’m that clip. The roll wasn’t even visible on camera because of the split-screen.

The contestant gave two bad rolls, the latter of which barely crossed the line.  I blame him.  Yes, the camera should have moved to show the die, but I wouldn't throw it out on this being the textbook example.

He also liked to use the split screen in Ten Chances but that was annoying because the numbers in the price of the car became invisible when the split-screen went up.

And after a few seconds, the numbers would reappear.

Plus, the shot of the car never went up until after a good look at the numbers had been shown.  I mean, I never had a problem remembering what they were for the few seconds you couldn't see them...
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on March 07, 2021, 12:16:25 PM
I remember a couple of times in Money Game in the 70s where they dissolved straight from the actual car to the car graphic on the Money Game board (or vice versa) with the two lined up as perfectly as they could be. Loved it.
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Post by: Nick on March 07, 2021, 12:21:36 PM
I remember a couple of times in Money Game in the 70s where they dissolved straight from the actual car to the car graphic on the Money Game board (or vice versa) with the two lined up as perfectly as they could be. Loved it.

Agreed!

You know, we really need to get a thread going of screencaps of stellar Breslow shots.  We're getting more and more of them all the time now.
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Post by: plinkostick1 on March 14, 2021, 03:09:35 PM
Another theme day coming up next weekend. "Super Spin Sunday", focusing on "big" spins in the SCSD. More than likely pulling from the same 200 episodes in rotation.

They have a promo on the "social pages" (Facebook, youtube)
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 14, 2021, 04:15:34 PM
According to their Facebook page, it's promoting a 12-hour marathon.  There is no start time given, but I imagine it'll be a 6 AM start with Pluto re-airing everything at 6 PM (similar to what they did with the big car wins marathon)
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Post by: MrPlinko on March 19, 2021, 05:46:40 AM
Any word when we will be moving to the new set of 100 more episodes?

Joe
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 19, 2021, 12:10:47 PM
Probably not for another couple of weeks at the very bare minimum.  It is possible that the next new episodes show up by mid-May
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 21, 2021, 07:43:21 PM
Today's Big Spin or SCSD special includes several skips episodes and some episodes that may get bumped off when the regular cycle resumes tomorrow.  The marathon (4644D, 4803D, 4823D, 4835D, 4881D, 4915D, 4921D, 4931D, 4945D, 4962D, 4965D, 4993D) featured cash winners within the SCSD but also a couple rounds with no cash winners but several spinoffs.  A couple spinoffs included during the day had a 3-way tie-breaker and one that needed a second one that produced a $1,000 winner.

After nearly 4 months we've had the big car win special & this Showcase Showdown special.  Of course there was the Christmas Special; while those episodes have run several dozen times, I could watch those at least several dozen times.

Anyway, given the episode selection today (03/21/21), I imagine that the next marathon Pluto will have will feature great showcase wins (including DSW and/or winners leaving with over $20,000 or $17,500 in cash and prizes).  Probably not until the next 100 episodes get added to the rotation
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Post by: pricefan18 on March 21, 2021, 07:58:13 PM
Today's Big Spin or SCSD special includes several skips episodes and some episodes that may get bumped off when the regular cycle resumes tomorrow.

Skipped as in first time seen on the channel episodes? Or just skipped more recently?
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 21, 2021, 08:07:35 PM
Skipped as in first time seen on the channel episodes? Or just skipped more recently?


More recently.  For example, prior to the marathon on January 23, they skipped several episodes without warning but the correct speculation was that they were skipping episodes slated for the special.  Then post marathon they skipped episodes that were part of said marathon
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Post by: pannoni1 on March 22, 2021, 09:50:59 AM
Other good ideas for these specials are marathons featuring a single game (Plinko, Golden Road, and Super Ball! come to mind in particular), bloopers, episodes featuring a chat from Barker's Beauties, and way down the road, premieres of new games.
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Post by: RatRace10 on March 22, 2021, 11:45:35 AM
Season 11 alone had 13 playings of Plinko. They already have enough for a 12-hour Plinko marathon.
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Post by: pricefan18 on March 22, 2021, 12:30:08 PM
Other good ideas for these specials are marathons featuring a single game (Plinko, Golden Road, and Super Ball! come to mind in particular), bloopers, episodes featuring a chat from Barker's Beauties, and way down the road, premieres of new games.

Or final game playings perhaps/focuses on retired games?
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Post by: CJBojangles on March 22, 2021, 01:07:37 PM
Or final game playings perhaps/focuses on retired games?

USA has put together themed Law & Order marathons from less content every week for YEARS now. The possibilities with Price are endless.

/"Tune in next week for the 'Dian looks disinterested' Barker Era marathon!"
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Post by: saturn93 on March 22, 2021, 01:16:43 PM
Other good ideas for these specials are marathons featuring a single game (Plinko, Golden Road, and Super Ball! come to mind in particular), bloopers, episodes featuring a chat from Barker's Beauties, and way down the road, premieres of new games.
I love all of these.  You could add "Showcases with dialogue" to this, as in, actually talking in the showcase.
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Post by: ThatDonGuy on March 22, 2021, 01:40:27 PM
I love all of these.  You could add "Showcases with dialogue" to this, as in, actually talking in the showcase.

Weren't there a lot of these - the Barker's Cheerleaders showcases come to mind?
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Post by: plinkostick1 on March 22, 2021, 02:36:22 PM
TPIR News and Obi Wan Kniblik as well. I'm sure there are others
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 22, 2021, 02:45:54 PM
Other good ideas for these specials are marathons featuring a single game (Plinko, Golden Road, and Super Ball! come to mind in particular), bloopers, episodes featuring a chat from Barker's Beauties, and way down the road, premieres of new games.


Great idea.  You could add the Check Game into that mix.  With the 40th anniversary of Blank Check coming up, it would serve as a great opportunity for them to have that marathon.  Of course, I imagine they'll actually do that with Plinko in early 2023

Speaking of Plinko, and with the addition of new episodes with the Phone Home Game, I didn't mention the obvious: Big Money wins in cash games.  Probably $5000+ in Plinko & Punch a Bunch, $10,000 (or $5000) in PHG, and an outright victory in Grand Game
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Post by: pricefan18 on March 22, 2021, 03:42:19 PM
Great idea.  You could add the Check Game into that mix.  With the 40th anniversary of Blank Check coming up, it would serve as a great opportunity for them to have that marathon.  Of course, I imagine they'll actually do that with Plinko in early 2023

Considering how they've promoted episodes that feature it......that would seem to make total sense to me. Of all the ideas being floated, I'd say that one may be most likely to come to pass sooner than later.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 22, 2021, 04:33:12 PM
Considering how they've promoted episodes that feature it......that would seem to make total sense to me. Of all the ideas being floated, I'd say that one may be most likely to come to pass sooner than later.

Yeah, you're probably right.  Not need to wait that long.  Of course they could have one soon and still do one with episodes added after the first marathon
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Post by: Blissey on March 30, 2021, 12:58:46 PM
The Barker Era channel has won PlutoTV's annual "Battle of the Fandoms" social media tournament. It triumphed over "Deal or No Deal," "Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders" and "The Love Boat" en route to a crushing defeat (in more ways than one, being a Trekker as I am) of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" in the final.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PlutoTV/status/1375510941010259970
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Post by: djsquare on March 31, 2021, 08:25:36 PM
I sure hope this will motivate them to pump out more episodes!
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on March 31, 2021, 09:35:06 PM
I sure hope this will motivate them to pump out more episodes!

If they need a "March Madness" victory or the PlutoTV version of it to pump out more episodes, then we won't finish airing the final 25 years of the Barker Era until the year 2100.

Someone mentioned elsewhere that Pluto might start at 4994 tomorrow, and then go back to 4581 after that.  I had to laugh; that would be cruel but man, sometimes a cruel April Fool's joke is worth it (so as long as no one gets hurt or worse).  Another joke would be to continue through 5005 and then reset.  It would get PHG's first 5 appearances in but then crush but then crush several hearts when it's made official that they aren't adding anymore episodes to the rotation right now
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Post by: supersaver87 on April 01, 2021, 04:06:49 PM
Has 4/1/83 aired at all today? I thought if there was any time to break it out, now would be it.

(Then again, they've aired the Christmas episodes long after Christmas ended...)
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on April 01, 2021, 04:49:57 PM
I haven't checked.  If they were, it probably wouldn't air until 11 PM Eastern.  AFAIK, they haven't (I would've known about it if they did).


I'm guessing it's a definite NO for Pluto airing it.  Sure they aired the Christmas episodes post-Christmas (and before the holiday).  Likewise, they aired the New Year's episode on 12/31 AND the Valentine's Day episode on 02/14.  The difference is that those were part of the cycle.  April Fools 1983 was skipped outright
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Post by: MrPlinko on April 03, 2021, 06:17:06 PM
Has 4/1/83 aired at all today? I thought if there was any time to break it out, now would be it.

(Then again, they've aired the Christmas episodes long after Christmas ended...)

Is that the one that I remember, where a contestant named Beatrice, with seemingly no personality at all, is shown two cars in the Showcase, and she just looks at them stone-faced. Bob even says, "Are you all right? We just showed you two cares, and you were like, "Who Cares?"

Joe

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Post by: johnnymatch on April 06, 2021, 02:29:39 PM
It bothered me 40 years ago, bothers me even now. 
The turntable, particularly, the quilted flats that replaced the stucco.
I didn’t realize it happened so soon after their debut, but they began to sag and pucker.
As an 18 year old college student in 1983 I would watch at 3pm on WBBM Chicago in my dorm, after a full day of Radio-TV-Film classes.  I would fume.  How did they roll tape on a show where the prime piece of the set was unpresentable.
Then I would eventually go home on spring or winter break and watch WBZ Eyewitness News.  And what would I see?  The carpeting on the front of the riser on which the anchor desk rested was untacked and peeling back?  A full 36 inches. 
I would later get into  the local news business where my fastidious set fetish found an avenue of expression.
Point is, to all aspiring directors, check the set prior to air time to make sure there are no blatant blemishes that might drive the viewer to write a blog entry forty years after the fact.
As a failed CBS anchor once wrote: The camera never blinks.
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Post by: tpirfan28 on April 10, 2021, 05:50:58 PM
Not on the Tweeter yet but promos running today for a "Casino Sunday" 4/18 featuring Poker Game and Hit Me.
I would imagine there will be some Card Game sprinkled into those Poker/Hit Me selected shows too.
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Post by: priceguy on April 10, 2021, 06:24:18 PM
I would imagine there will be some Card Game sprinkled into those Poker/Hit Me selected shows too.
Probably Dice Game too.
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Post by: tpir04 on April 11, 2021, 12:01:44 AM
Not on the Tweeter yet but promos running today for a "Casino Sunday" 4/18 featuring Poker Game and Hit Me.
I would imagine there will be some Card Game sprinkled into those Poker/Hit Me selected shows too.

Perhaps some Dice Game as well.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see the above reply.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on April 16, 2021, 08:58:26 PM
With the Marathon a couple days away, Pluto has not skipped any episodes, which goes off of what they’ve done for past specials (Christmas, New Year’s, Car Wins, SCSD Marathon).  Other than New Year’s, each marathon started and ended at 6 AM Eastern.  In those timeframes, the episodes reran 4 times if it included 6 shows, and twice for 12 shows.

We were slated to go back to 4581 at 2 AM Eastern.  I think there may be a chance that the Marathon starts at that time and ends 24 hours later.  Whether or not they skip anything upon the reset is unknown.

I guess I’m looking forward to the Marathon.  On the other hand, it may be a marathon just for the sake of having a marathon.  Especially if the focus is on just Hit Me and Poker Game.  As referenced, I expect Dice Game and Card Game on Sunday.  In doing so, they’re focusing on all the big table games.  Blackjack for Hit Me, Poker Game for Poker (or Video Poker, which would cover “Slots” IMO), and Dice Game for Craps.  I guess the SCSD could cover Roulette.  Card Game doesn’t really cover anything other than the feel of being at the table for a table game
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Post by: holdme on April 17, 2021, 12:46:23 PM
Watching 4965 right now and was curious to look up the recap here:
http://tpirepguide.com/?p=14706

Funny that the recap posted for 4965 at the above link and what Pluto is calling 4965 do not match at all!

Edit: After looking into it a little further, what Pluto is calling 4965 is actually posted as the recap for 4981. I'm guessing the mistake is Pluto's.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on April 17, 2021, 03:37:21 PM
It is Pluto's mistake.  They forgot to update their grid.  It's still set as if there was no marathon planned for Sunday.

According to several people, there were episodes that were skipped after all.  That includes 4773, 4793, 4794, 4801, 4832, & 4851.  That means 4581 would start six hours early, or 8 PM Eastern.

So much for my earlier post.  You can disregard any mention of nothing being skipped.

I haven't seen any official mention, but I guess they'll still start the Marathon tomorrow at 6 AM Eastern as is the custom.  If it's a 6-episode special, I guess they'll run it four times
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Post by: johnnymatch on April 29, 2021, 01:29:17 PM
Am I the only one who has noticed Homer Thomas from Ep 4682.
He is kinda like the Yolanda Bowserly of male contestants without the full reveal.
At the risk of being risque or vulgar, the next time it airs notice that he fills out his trousers in a way that would make any Polska Kielbasa proud.  Maybe thats why he carried Poopsie the stuffed animal.  His own personal “oooops” banner. ‘Cept he didn’t use it effectively. Maybe he was just happy to see Bob.
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Post by: RatRace10 on April 30, 2021, 01:46:51 PM
I've noticed this a lot lately...

Anytime a contestant during an IUFB asks about ONE of the previous bids ("What did she bid?" "What was the last bid?"), Bob will always rapidly list ALL the bids up to that point while pointing at the players. Like...

Bob: What do you bid, Alice?
Alice: 450.
Bob: 450. Barry?
Barry: 625.
Bob: 625. Christine?
Christine: 299.
Bob: 299. Danielle?
Danielle: What did she bid? (ponts to Christine)
Bob: 450-625-299.

They're only asking about one particular person's bid, so wouldn't it confuse them if Bob is just saying what everyone bid?
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Post by: Nick on April 30, 2021, 01:51:22 PM
wouldn't it confuse them if Bob is just saying what everyone bid?

I wouldn't think so.  It saves the inevitable follow-up question, "What did he bid (points to Barry)?", followed by, "And what did she bid (points to Alice)?".
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on April 30, 2021, 02:56:05 PM
That, and if Bob wasn't certain which person's bid the contestant had asked about, he has every bid covered.
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Post by: JayC on April 30, 2021, 04:09:19 PM
From what I recall, Bob would almost always relay every bid whenever a contestant asked for the previous bid. It ensures that the contestant bidding is aware of all the bids, so they can't turn around and say they weren't aware.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on April 30, 2021, 11:33:12 PM
I'd have to search for it, but I don't or can't ever recall Bob not repeating one's bid.  I think he'll only repeat a particular bid "upon request".  In other words, if someone asks for the highest bid or the lowest bid
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Post by: muteKi on May 01, 2021, 04:52:03 PM
Anyone else frustrated the little descriptions with the episode numbers don't actually match what they broadcast?
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Post by: RatRace10 on May 01, 2021, 06:08:19 PM
Yeah, they got out of sync after they didn't account for the Casino Sunday episodes. :(
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 01, 2021, 10:22:24 PM
Anyone else frustrated the little descriptions with the episode numbers don't actually match what they broadcast?


I have kept track of every episode that’s aired and when since 12/01/2020 (with some help from the awesome users here & Discord, and then some).  I’ve also kept track of the patterns that Pluto has used when it comes to what they do (since they really never say anything about it).  In addition, there was one point where they didn’t even list the episode that was scheduled to air, so you can disregard it.

I’m not going to list the current run in this thread (as in the dates/times of all 200 episodes in the current run since it might take up too much space), but to be rather brief, they started over on 04/26/2021 at 4 PM Eastern.  That means if you do the math, they’ll restart on 05/05/2021 at Midnight.  However, someone has recently removed episodes on YouTube that are slated to be part of the next 100 episodes.  I don’t know the timeline between when that occurred prior to the launch, but it would be nice if they could resume with 4994D on 05/05/2021 at Midnight.

Or not; that’s a tough time, but it is pretty expected as they’ve added new episodes during “dead” hours.  If 4581D is the episode on 05/05, then I think 4994D will definitely surface on 05/13/2021 at 8 AM Eastern.   Despite whatever conflicts may surface for me and others it’s a nice point to start adding to the rotation.

As of the timestamp of this post, they should be on 4823D (03/16/1983) but I think the people that were tracking the episodes (as in others not me) are more of a reliable source than that guide Pluto uses.

BTW, it is still frustrating, but I figured I'd go back to what worked prior to Pluto adding their "descriptions"
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Post by: FanOfDrew87 on May 03, 2021, 08:28:07 AM
John Ricci, Jr. once posted a clip of a Walk of Fame playing from around April 6, 1984 quite some time ago, and I remember reading in Golden-Road's past archived posts that someone was trying to pinpoint the date in which Holly Hallstrom returned to the show on a regular basis.  Initially, it was said that she returned by April 9, 1984, but after the Walk of Fame clip was uploaded, the date by which Holly returned was narrowed down by one episode.  Thanks to the Pluto TV channel, we may now be able to watch out for the actual episode's airdate in which Holly returned to the show after her short-lived acting career.  I was interested in finding out some interesting stuff on the Price is Right Timeline, but I cannot seem to find it anywhere.  What happened to the Timeline?

I did happen to see the January 19, 1984 episode not long ago, and did discover an African-American model filling in for a model.  I learned that the model's name was Pat, and I am assuming she covered for Holly by that time.  However, I may have skimmed through the January 26, 1984 episode, and unless I overlooked, I could have sworn that Holly was in that episode.
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Post by: blozier2006 on May 03, 2021, 08:37:54 AM
I was interested in finding out some interesting stuff on the Price is Right Timeline, but I cannot seem to find it anywhere.  What happened to the Timeline?
Nothing happened to it, it's still in its usual place.
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Post by: pannoni1 on May 03, 2021, 02:12:17 PM
John Ricci, Jr. once posted a clip of a Walk of Fame playing from around April 6, 1984 quite some time ago, and I remember reading in Golden-Road's past archived posts that someone was trying to pinpoint the date in which Holly Hallstrom returned to the show on a regular basis.  Initially, it was said that she returned by April 9, 1984, but after the Walk of Fame clip was uploaded, the date by which Holly returned was narrowed down by one episode.  Thanks to the Pluto TV channel, we may now be able to watch out for the actual episode's airdate in which Holly returned to the show after her short-lived acting career.  I was interested in finding out some interesting stuff on the Price is Right Timeline, but I cannot seem to find it anywhere.  What happened to the Timeline?

I did happen to see the January 19, 1984 episode not long ago, and did discover an African-American model filling in for a model.  I learned that the model's name was Pat, and I am assuming she covered for Holly by that time.  However, I may have skimmed through the January 26, 1984 episode, and unless I overlooked, I could have sworn that Holly was in that episode.

The timeline is still around and continues to be updated. Its one of the links found in the FAQ button above. It could use a little more updating for a few things, such as the fact that the first appearance of 5-digit 3 Strikes is the 9/19/1983 episode based on that the previous two playings were for 4-digit cars.

We can actually narrow it down further when Holly returned after her mid-Season 12 hiatus. A clip of the 3/12/1984 episode features a playing of Bullseye, which includes Holly hauling out a stereo player (speaking of which in the clip, imagine Johnny's voice and the popular 1974 GP cue played at 45 RPM on a 33 1/3 disc!).

http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,25973.0.html

I'm also curious to see when the production company "divorce" exactly happened around that time, whether it was before or after Holly's return (Bill Todman's estate leaving Mark Goodson, in this case Bill Todman Jr, who went on to be producer/co-producer for films such as "Hard to Kill" and "The Adventures". )
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Post by: djsquare on May 03, 2021, 06:26:11 PM
We can actually narrow it down further when Holly returned after her mid-Season 12 hiatus. A clip of the 3/12/1984 episode features a playing of Bullseye, which includes Holly hauling out a stereo player.

That's not Holly!
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on May 04, 2021, 02:35:43 AM
It could use a little more updating for a few things

Honestly, it could use a little more updating on quite a lot of things.  For the time being, most updates are probably going to be for either Season 11 or Season 49 unless I have a day where I just get in the mood to hunt things down and fix stuff.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 05, 2021, 12:24:38 AM
There is yet another reset to 4581.  No new content this time.  That's the bad news, but the good news is that they've addressed the episode description.  It seems odd that the YouTube episodes from Season 12 were booted there over a week ago
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Post by: johnnymatch on May 06, 2021, 06:31:53 PM
Bob’s Verbal Ticks

It is with pain and remorse that I offer this critical observation. Mr Barker had two verbal ticks that got in the way of clarity.  Perhaps you will disagree:

First:
Hit Me— Bob had a reluctance or a verbal block in calling an ace an “ace”.  He would call it a “one” that could also be an eleven.  Found it odd that in his effort to parallel the playing of the game to Blackjack that he never got around to calling an Ace an Ace, for clarity’s sake.

Second:
Now and Then— Bob would use the phrase “three in a row” when explaining what is needed to win.  If he had used the phrase “side by side” or “connected to each other” it would have been more accurate and might have produced fewer blank stares from contestants.  Whatever the case, they are not in a “row”; sequentially or spatially in order to win. 
Just side by side.
Which reminds me, that would make a great name for a game in the future.
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Post by: Nick on May 06, 2021, 07:35:27 PM
It is with pain and remorse that I offer this critical observation. Mr Barker had two verbal ticks that got in the way of clarity.[=

On the contrary, I find this kind of discussion quite engaging since it only comes about in a day and age of overindulgement of 24/7 reruns that is so far removed from when these episodes originally aired.

Hit Me— Bob had a reluctance or a verbal block in calling an ace an “ace”.  He would call it a “one” that could also be an eleven.  Found it odd that in his effort to parallel the playing of the game to Blackjack that he never got around to calling an Ace an Ace, for clarity’s sake.

It may be this was to make simpler the "math" to the contestant.  It may also be that it was to avoid "locking" on the ace as eleven when the contestant, say, followed that with a deuce and then a ten.  You don't want to score them a bust.  I'm not sure if anybody's keeping track, but it would be interesting to see how strictly they played the ace in those years compared to later years when it was essentially a floating one or eleven, depending on what was most convenient.

Now and Then— Bob would use the phrase “three in a row” when explaining what is needed to win.  If he had used the phrase “side by side” or “connected to each other” it would have been more accurate and might have produced fewer blank stares from contestants.

Agreed.  The terminology of "three in a row" never made sense, since the products were not arranged in a row, nor was successive correctness pertinent to victory.

And as demonstrated by the clip uploaded to the YouTube channel today, while in later years in this game--when there was only one winning combination left, Bob would just pick a starting point and have the contestant go from there--I preferred the former way that in such a scenario, Bob would at least ask the contestant where he'd like to begin.  Yeah, it leads to the "blank stares" (since contestants who have messed up that badly to be locked into using all six products for a shot at victory generally haven't grasped the game very well), but it's akin to rolling a one or a six in the Dice Game.  It's just not right if the MC just plows along without getting the contestant to consent to "higher" or "lower" even if it's defaulted because a choice is still supposed to be made.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 10, 2021, 05:05:34 PM
Well the long wait is finally over: New Episodes (https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1391860624657899521) Starting on Thursday May 13!


ETA: The Source and a link
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Post by: blozier2006 on May 10, 2021, 05:18:55 PM
5002D to 5051D would cover 9/20/83 to 10/24/83. Good deal!
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Post by: Thrasher on May 10, 2021, 05:47:27 PM
I know some of y'all already know this, and for all I know I mentioned this one before:

The last show GSN aired back when they had the rights in the 90s was 5194D, OAD 2/9/1984.

I love this channel, I love having all these beautiful HQ eps of Price, and I'm grateful for whatever they run, but OH do I REALLY want them to make it past that date with new shows.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 10, 2021, 08:10:51 PM
Same here.  Looks like we'll at least get through all of February 1984 by the start of summer.  I'll be happy when they do; I too cannot wait for them to go further. 

Not just the rest of Season 12, but Season 13 as well.  That is going to be a "nice treat" whenever those (1984-1985) make it onto Pluto!


If I recall correctly, the episodes that aired on 09/15, 09/16, and 09/19 did appear on GSN, at least for me at 8AM - 9AM Eastern about 22 years ago.  However, for whatever reason, those episode will not be included starting on Thursday
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Post by: FanOfDrew87 on May 10, 2021, 08:49:01 PM
Speaking of February 1984, I have an interesting question to bring up.  Could Pluto still broadcast the half-hour episode from February 21, 1984, or would that episode be skipped due to restricting to hour-long episodes for consistency's sake?

The February 21, 1984 episode was shortened to just 30 minutes for that day only due to the Pilsbury Bake-Off that aired as Price's lead-in. The format was the same as the earliest episodes in the series and the 1985-86 Tom Kennedy episodes - there was no Showcase Showdown.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 10, 2021, 09:35:30 PM
Speaking of February 1984, I have an interesting question to bring up.  Could Pluto still broadcast the half-hour episode from February 21, 1984, or would that episode be skipped due to restricting to hour-long episodes for consistency's sake?

The February 21, 1984 episode was shortened to just 30 minutes for that day only due to the Pilsbury Bake-Off that aired as Price's lead-in. The format was the same as the earliest episodes in the series and the 1985-86 Tom Kennedy episodes - there was no Showcase Showdown.


I guess we'll find out within the next two months.  If I had to guess, they'll either air it twice or air it with lots and lots of commercials and ads within the hour.  I don't know if they'll move off of starting episodes at the top of each hour.  Of course they could skip it outright.  They could "lie" with the reason being that there is damage to the tape, and I wouldn't get mad (of course that episode may very well be damaged for real).  On the other hand, they could be honest and just simply say they're excluding half-hour episodes from their rotation
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Post by: pannoni1 on May 10, 2021, 09:47:39 PM
Same here.  Looks like we'll at least get through all of February 1984 by the start of summer.  I'll be happy when they do; I too cannot wait for them to go further. 

Not just the rest of Season 12, but Season 13 as well.  That is going to be a "nice treat" whenever those (1984-1985) make it onto Pluto!


If I recall correctly, the episodes that aired on 09/15, 09/16, and 09/19 did appear on GSN, at least for me at 8AM - 9AM Eastern about 22 years ago.  However, for whatever reason, those episode will not be included starting on Thursday

At least those three episodes do circulate and I did watch them from their GSN airings shortly after Pluto finished its last lease. The 9/15/83 episode featured the first appearance of the fourth generation"C4" 1984 Chevy Corvette on Golden Road, as well as being the first prize worth more than $20,000 to ever be offered. It also had the "Big John Rovin' Reporter" Showcase. The 9/19 episode was also the first appearance of 5-digit 3 Strikes.

Here are links to those three "skipped" episodes to fill the void between the batches:

9/15: http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,26731.0.html

9/16: http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,22698.0.html (features some observations that I've noticed from the episodes currently circulating around this period)

9/19: http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,30740.0.html

100 episodes will take us five episodes past the end of the GSN lease assuming no episodes are skipped. Get ready for another exciting classic season of TV's #1 daytime game show of all time!
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Post by: pricefan18 on May 11, 2021, 12:13:10 AM
Same here.  Looks like we'll at least get through all of February 1984 by the start of summer.  I'll be happy when they do; I too cannot wait for them to go further. 

Not just the rest of Season 12, but Season 13 as well.  That is going to be a "nice treat" whenever those (1984-1985) make it onto Pluto!


If I recall correctly, the episodes that aired on 09/15, 09/16, and 09/19 did appear on GSN, at least for me at 8AM - 9AM Eastern about 22 years ago.  However, for whatever reason, those episode will not be included starting on Thursday

Hmm, that'd make the 2nd season in a row early episodes weren't aired no? That's kinda interesting. Coincidence maybe but interesting.
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Post by: pannoni1 on May 14, 2021, 09:19:54 AM
I just finished watching the majority of the latest batch. There were no skips at all not counting the three skipped ones between the two. The biggest little flaw with this batch is that the very bottom of the screen features a black line across most the bottom row along with some blurriness to the left of it. As is typical with a new batch, there were some buffering/quality issues, but the problems seemed to improve as the batch progresses, so when these shows air again next weekend (beginning at 5 PM Eastern on Sat. 5/22), hopefully we'll see some of the quality issues fixed, but then again, just like how typical VHS/Beta tapes develop tracking wear, so can quads. Hopefully, like the rollouts in February with episodes 101-200, we'll get the next 25 a week from Sunday at 6 PM EDT beginning with 5052D (10/25/83) and ending with the unconfirmed 5103D (11/30/83), assuming with no skips. That next batch would feature the premiere of Walk of Fame, the refurbished Dice Game set, and the 1983 Home Viewer Showcase.

Like I've mentioned previously, some episodes were taped out of order, most notably the episodes from 5012D through 5043D that didn't feature The Phone Home Game in that stretch, which were taped prior to the season premiere week and the following week.  For now, the reset point remains the "Microphone Elbow" show with the blown Lucky Seven playing.
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Post by: vnisanian2001 on May 14, 2021, 03:17:56 PM
I'm wondering if 10/25/83 originally didn't air in some (not all) parts of the country due to Grenada coverage?
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 14, 2021, 08:22:25 PM
I'm wondering if 10/25/83 originally didn't air in some (not all) parts of the country due to Grenada coverage?

I was in school during that episode so I wasn't catching it regardless, but given the lack of other networks at that time, I'd imagine it was.  Fox News & MSNBC were more than a decade away, while CNN and the CNN deuce AKA HLN were rather new, so I think there was some interference within that episode.  I do not know and cannot recall if it was rerun on CBS, but nonetheless I think we'll see it next Sunday on Pluto
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Post by: jlgarfield on May 15, 2021, 10:06:07 PM
About one of the eps in the current batch of "new" old shows: Show #5011D, OAD 9/26/1983 was likely preempted completely in the East Coast (or had a good chunk of it preempted) due to a Presidential News Conference; I know that day's Press Your Luck ep met that fate. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 16, 2021, 05:15:54 PM
About one of the eps in the current batch of "new" old shows: Show #5011D, OAD 9/26/1983 was likely preempted completely in the East Coast (or had a good chunk of it preempted) due to a Presidential News Conference; I know that day's Press Your Luck ep met that fate. Can anybody confirm or deny this?

I can neither confirm nor deny that.  However, if I had to guess, I don't think TPIR was affected that day.  Usually TPTB adjusts whenever the show gets preempted on the East Coast (for instance, showing a rerun on the West Coast) and then saving it for later.

Both season premieres were preempted for Season's 22 & 27.  Unlike the former, the latter was pushed back 24 hours, which resulted in the scheduled Tuesday episode to air on New Year's Eve.  That was cool for me personally since they don't typically rerun the premieres.

Good thing preemptions aren't a big deal these days.  There were several cases where an episode was interrupted in both their original runs and their reruns (what are the chances of that?!) but that occurred during the era where you could catch that show online
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Post by: pricefan18 on May 20, 2021, 06:10:35 PM
Watching the show labeled 4902...and is it me or was there a BIG edit in the Now and Then game? Went from Johnny describing the prize to applause from the audience as he finished, to Bob speaking of the game on a wide shot with an abruptly silent one. It felt a little jarring. That couldn't have been Pluto could it?
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Post by: MrPlinko on May 20, 2021, 07:00:03 PM
Yea,

Some episodes have a little black glitch on the far right of the screen. Is this Pluto TV? Or a damage in tape transition? The quality is AMAZING on the video. Almost HD content! The audio does jar at times. An A- on the video, and a C+ on the audio for me.

Joe
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Post by: plinkostick1 on May 20, 2021, 07:08:58 PM
I didn't notice anything jarring on my "version" of 4902. And I thought I saw someone mention that "glitch" was digibeta tracking error, but that could've been referring to something else.

Also more new episodes after they replay 5002-5052, up to 5105

https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1395514701665210368?s=19
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 20, 2021, 07:10:34 PM
I think the audio is a Chrome vs Firefox thing.  At least for me it is (several may be using other browsers or watching off of Roku or whatever).  The video is alright, not perfect but not a big deal either.  The editing stuff is more Pluto than the viewer.  For instance shortly after the release of the second set of 200 episodes, they'd skip a commercial break, but then take that break in the middle of the showcases

Outside of the obvious edits to segments pimping TPHG, as long as they're not editing out original material, I'm okay with the final product.  Definitely a B overall for me
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Post by: pannoni1 on May 21, 2021, 07:36:12 AM

Also more new episodes after they replay 5002-5052, up to 5105

https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1395514701665210368?s=19

Actually, 5051D was the last episode from the first portion of the newest batch. Assuming there's 25 more, 5105D would mean that there would be two skipped episodes in this batch (hopefully one of them isn't 5103D).
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Post by: RatRace10 on May 23, 2021, 05:24:48 PM
Next batch starts at 6 PM Eastern today!
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Post by: C8 on May 24, 2021, 01:37:29 AM
Just caught the debut of Walk of Fame not realizing any new eps were added.

I wanted to say it was a treat but it was an anticlimactic loss to a half baked game. The first prize being a wok for the first playing…that was cute.
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Post by: Thatgameshowguy on May 24, 2021, 02:11:05 AM
Just caught the debut of Walk of Fame not realizing any new eps were added.

I wanted to say it was a treat but it was an anticlimactic loss to a half baked game. The first prize being a wok for the first playing…that was cute.


Unfortunately because of the way they're dumping these episodes the first few playings of the game air at various times throughout the night and then once at a decent hour. Since not everyone can be up at 1am here's the first playing.

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Post by: holdme on May 24, 2021, 01:47:23 PM
5064 and 5103 are the skipped episodes in this new batch.
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Post by: pricefan18 on May 24, 2021, 03:19:55 PM
How many episodes total through all the cycles have they now skipped counting those two?
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Post by: holdme on May 24, 2021, 03:59:34 PM
How many episodes total through all the cycles have they now skipped counting those two?

4571 - 4775 - season 11 premiere week
4633
4733
4775
4783
4853
4865 - April Fool's
4994 & 4995 - season 12 premiere week
5001
5064
5103
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Post by: catnapped on May 24, 2021, 05:03:51 PM
Are they jumping past all the showcase reveals?
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 24, 2021, 05:36:00 PM
How many episodes total through all the cycles have they now skipped counting those two?

I believe the total is 11.  Four from the original 100, a couple from the next batch, and then this batch that includes the ones from the start of the season
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Post by: pannoni1 on May 25, 2021, 07:25:42 AM
When the next two batches of 25 roll out over the next few weeks, we'll be up to 300 total and basically have just about every episode GSN ran in 1999 and early 2000 that weren't part of Win TV. Assuming there's no more skips, we're slated to go as far as 5211D (2/20/84), which is the episode before the half-hour special due to the Pillsbury Bake-Off, as well as being seven episodes past the end of GSN's lease.

Also, Pluto aired the Ticket Plug during 5083D, the first known occurrence of this happening. That episode also featured the debut of the current pattern on the top portion of the present Five Price Tags podiums. 5093D was also the first episode to do away with announcing the prize package total on Master Key.

Most Showcase reveals are coming through, but every five episodes or so, there's a jump it seems.
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on May 25, 2021, 11:45:46 AM
In #5061D, something I´ve never seen happen before: a contestant is called down during the opening but wanders up onto the stage and remains there even as Bob enters through the big doors. In place of his usual opening remarks, Bob has a short chat with him before sending him down to Contestant's row.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 25, 2021, 12:42:13 PM
In #5061D, something I´ve never seen happen before: a contestant is called down during the opening but wanders up onto the stage and remains there even as Bob enters through the big doors. In place of his usual opening remarks, Bob has a short chat with him before sending him down to Contestant's row.

I totally forgot about that!  It looked like he was directed back to CR, or the staff attempted to direct him there, but then the rest was history.  I'm glad that he officially got out of contestant's row; even though his attempts at winning anything in Clock Game didn't work out, I no longer have to wonder what a premature arrival to the stage in the opening looks like.

Skipped episodes: I totally didn't see holdme's post when replying to pricefan.  Not sure how that didn't show up on my end until later, but that's the list.  Still 11 skipped shows so far

Set upgrades: Looks like Trader Bob received one when the title sign was painted Yellow.  Not sure if it's meaningful news, but I think that was present in 5005D
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Post by: Thrasher on May 25, 2021, 05:27:57 PM
Most Showcase reveals are coming through, but every five episodes or so, there's a jump it seems.

Have not had this issue.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 30, 2021, 11:18:30 AM
I believe the issues stem from one's Internet infrastructure, coupled with one's PC or laptop or whatever as mentioned elsewhere (and from my (past) experiences).  Several years ago, when money was tight and the need for cable was not there, I settled with live streaming and it's been great.  No way it's perfect; between that and cable they have their pros and cons.  For instance, cable is necessary for a Red Zone without much issue, but it's seasonal where RD isn't necessary if you're travelling, on the move, and/or your family or a restaurant has it.  Moreover, with XFinity Prepaid, it's a lot less expensive, and I can easily save and rewind content for a ton of devices.

It does help to have the best service & the best devices.  That, and where you live is pretty important.  I've had my share of issues, but between my old locations, and newer locations coupled with upgrading my computer & staying current with its maintenance, I've noticed a positive improvement
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 30, 2021, 12:11:40 PM
To echo or "piggyback" what pannoni1 mentioned in what's next with the current rotation, if nothing gets skipped, then we will end right before that half-hour episode.  I would imagine that we will, as it would give Fremantle or Pluto or whomever time to figure out how they would air a half-hour episode within the cycle featuring hour-long episodes.  I don't think they would want to start at the bottom of the hour until 5212 airs again.

On the other hand, there are a couple back-to-back shows with unknown lineups, and the last show in which that show's lineup was uncertain did not air.  We'll know on Friday whether one or both of 5132 & 5133 air or are skipped.  Of course, there is no guarantee that 5212 will air at all.

The channel should get to 275 by 5 AM Eastern on 06/05/2021.  The last episodes to get to 300 should start on 06/16/2021 at 5 PM Eastern, and then the 300th show will air between 5-6 on 06/17.  That is assuming they add 25 episodes at a time and that there are no skips going forward
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Post by: Nate Powalie on May 30, 2021, 11:41:09 PM
I've seen clips on Facebook regarding the Barker Era on Pluto appear in my feed, but there are a couple of games that I think are played too much in the clips, Hole in One and Double Prices.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on May 31, 2021, 09:25:08 AM
I've seen clips on Facebook regarding the Barker Era on Pluto appear in my feed, but there are a couple of games that I think are played too much in the clips, Hole in One and Double Prices.

Everything seems balanced for me.  My guess is that those two are featured more than most because they were played more often than not in that era.  I've seen a lot of Dice Game recently, but someone of the content is really the channel covering certain moments throughout that era.  It's rather random, IMO.

One thing you have to take into account is that there are roughly half as many games in the rotation at that point compared to now.  Likely more than half TBH; within that features pricing games that were played more than other pricing games.  As of this point, I think they've definitely covered all the games within a post, but for me, it's not a big deal regarding Double Prices and Hole in One
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Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on June 02, 2021, 02:45:59 AM
New drop starts June 4th, 6AM ET. We skip 5111D and go through the next 25 episodes without skips. You might want to watch the first episode though, because it's a total trainwreck  ;-)
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 02, 2021, 07:23:08 AM
I swear: the news of new episodes dropping always break right after visiting the sight looking for that very same post.  I was on their Social Media page for that news (which was expected) and there was nothing; they literally posted it a second after I was on the site, based on the timestamp + last visited.  Go figure!

If they do in fact skip 5111D, then the question is what would they air at 5 AM on Friday.  If there's no typo involved, they may be addressing that half hour episode this month.  Chances are it'll be handled in the best way possible.  BTW, both that episode and 5111D are still available to view unlike most of the upcoming episodes on the channel
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Post by: Thrasher on June 02, 2021, 08:16:29 AM
This is based on absolutely nothing other than a guess but I fully anticipate that the half hour show will get skipped, when they get to it.
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on June 03, 2021, 04:25:38 PM
November 11, 1983 (#5075) has the earliest reference I've seen to "El Cheapo" in Money Game, although as "Old Cheap-o".

The same episode features an interesting playing of Superball!! that begins about as bad as Mohini's 1991 playing, but ends with the contestant winning 2/3 of the prizes.
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Post by: pannoni1 on June 03, 2021, 08:05:12 PM
#5074D (11/10/83) is really one of the most entertaining episodes in the batch. We have a Holly blunder with a piece of fitness equipment where she slides down, a Master Key playing where the contestant tries the first lock and despite not opening, opens up later after being successful with the first lock, a Double Prices prize that was less expensive (a $1000 Grandfather Clock) than the $1160 IUFB that preceded it, one of the highest at the time gifts offered on Temptation (over $2600), and a Range Game playing where the ARP very briefly flashes before disappearing. Great wins in Grandy and Race Game also round up the package. That Master Key BTW was actually the first one to omit the prize package announcement, not the following playing like I previously mentioned.

The Hi-Lo playing on 5073D also had a rare occurrence of the featured prize being announced before the GPs.

Ready for some Christmas in June tomorrow!
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 03, 2021, 10:09:20 PM
Can't wait for the 1983 Christmas episodes!  Those include a couple unknowns in terms of lineups.  The previous year's lineup, and really the whole week, was a blast.


We'll know by Midnight or 2 AM EST what's airing at 5 AM Eastern, but nonetheless, the first show announced from the social media page is rather outstanding, as mentioned.  Might rival 4792 on one hand, but maybe not.   Definitely worth the watch!
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Post by: gsn93 on June 04, 2021, 05:09:09 AM
5111D is currently airing and not being skipped.
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Post by: holdme on June 04, 2021, 05:54:37 PM
Looks like 5142D will be skipped. Fortunately this is one that can be seen online.
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Post by: plinkowin2010 on June 04, 2021, 06:12:18 PM
The 1983 Christmas episodes were great. Janice, Dian, and Channel looked spiffy in their outfits during that week. That's the first time i heard Channel talk. The episodes the aired 2 weeks before was Channel forced to wear a black wig to look like Holly? Dian wore a black wig when she first started to look like Anitra Ford.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 04, 2021, 09:33:53 PM
Looks like 5142D will be skipped. Fortunately this is one that can be seen online.

It's still available.  I guess random tape damage prevented its Pluto airing.


I sorta had to laugh at the wig to look like Holly thing.  It was a nice gesture I guess
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Post by: holdme on June 04, 2021, 11:13:30 PM
I noticed they liked using car prices ending with 1s and 9s A LOT in Lucky Seven back then. I haven't watched the show in recent years, but I hope it's not something they still consistently do. Not good television at all, but a good way for them to stay on budget.
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Post by: JayC on June 04, 2021, 11:21:36 PM
^Not so much 1, but 9 is pretty often used as the last digit in the game. More often than not they will use lower or higher numbers in the prices rather than numbers in the middle.
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Post by: pricefan18 on June 05, 2021, 03:43:04 AM
So watching 5155 now....and saw something that I've never seen before or woulda expected to be offered as a prize. They gave away a bucket of Washington Red Delicious Apples with the 5th IUFB. That couldn't have been common, could it? I know fruit was offered in Showcases even many years after this, but feels really odd to see some offered there. It threw me for a bit of a loop.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 05, 2021, 09:04:00 PM
^Not so much 1, but 9 is pretty often used as the last digit in the game. More often than not they will use lower or higher numbers in the prices rather than numbers in the middle.

Of course, the previous season on the channel (Season 11) featured at least 3 people losing off of a 1 for saying 5 for the 4th digit with $4 remaining.  Nonetheless, I love winners and winning, but I love business too.  You have to have a car that features a ton of low and high numbers in that game
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Post by: FanOfDrew87 on June 06, 2021, 05:43:11 PM
I haven't been following this thread much due to my greater interest in the modern-day episodes, but I did develop an interest in the Pluto stream recently, and I have a program which allows me to record episodes from the stream.  I would like to find out what times a different episode is shown on the stream.

I agree, the show gets better and better as we headed into 1984.
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Post by: pannoni1 on June 07, 2021, 08:53:07 AM
^

I actually feel that the quality curve of the show is pretty much at its full potential by this point after taking a big rise over the late 1970s and early '80s, starting shortly after the permanent hourlong expansion when the 1976 music package, the addition of new games, the increased chemistry between Bob/Johnny/the Beauties/the contestants, the rise of Bob's enthusiasm for wins/losses, as well as gradual jump in prize quality (although we're currently in the peak in terms of the rising quality curve for prizes). This peak quality pretty much remains until around 1993 or so, when Dian was fired and Bob starts to slowly but surely begin to be set in his ways, along with fewer set/design changes making the production start to seem a little stale in an environment where more modern production designs were taking off, and also where the new games don't premiere quite as often.

1984 will find lots of set/production changes though to look forward to. Among them, in rough chronological order:

*The Plinko sign being moved from the back of the audience to the Turntable (We just saw that in the last batch)
*The second Race Game Curtain with yellow Super Ball!-style dollar signs
*Penny Ante's board being refreshed, most notably on the game's name
*New blue and red neon Most Expensive podiums
*The "New" being dropped from Card Game
*The debut of the Tugboat (AKA "Tuggs")
*An all-new Clam including an exterior featuring a big yellow Super Ball! dollar sign
*The second generation Showcase Podiums
*A revamped light border with orange/red bulbs replacing the yellow ones
*An all-new Contestant's Row with pink borders (the pink would remain on the backside until the end of the end of the Barker era)
*A new sportstype Showcase Showdown scoreboard
*Hi-Lo's asterisks being revised from 8 to 6 points
*The first usage of the Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour theme as a cue

Most of these changes will occur around September/October unlike 1983's changes, which were more gradual through the year.

Of course, we'll see the debuts of Balance Game, On The Nose, and One Away in that order. But we'll probably have to wait until the fall to experience most of these changes with the next 100 shows. There's also the possibility that we'll see things like the Carnival Music "American Patrol" added to Pick A Pair as well.

The last 25 of this batch should be dropped next Wednesday, June 16 at 7 PM Eastern.
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Post by: FanOfDrew87 on June 09, 2021, 09:46:49 PM
I think the mid-1980s was when the show was at its peak period in the ratings.  We used to see, on average, three pricing game debuts per season back then.  We even saw the first ever prime-time specials on CBS in 1986, and that was a sign of success for the show then.  However, by the end of the 1980s, we'd be lucky to see only two pricing game debuts, and by the mid-2000s we were fortunate to see one pricing game debut at most per season.  Now, we don't see any new pricing games anymore, and in the past few months on the current TPIR, budget mode has been commonplace.  I was pretty amazed to see Golden Road played for a $70,000+ Jaguar on yesterday's show, though.  Maybe 3 Strikes could get one more playing before the season wraps up.

I think the Pluto channel only focuses on the 1980s, from 1982 to possibly 1989, because it was during that period that the show was in its prime in the ratings.  These are ratings that would never be seen again after Dian was terminated from the show and Bob Barker refused to have the show modernize with the times.  At least the models did, in a way, modernize their wardrobes to the fashion trends by the turn of this century.  We may get to see one season with the earliest playings of Spelling Bee and maybe a very small number of playings of Super Saver on Pluto later on down the road, and that would be a very interesting season to finish up the fresh episodes that the 1980s had to offer.  But first, we have to take care of 1984 before we see any of the later years.  I, however, would be quite surprised to see the channel evolve into the 1990s.

As for episodes I am recording as of lately, aside from November 3, 1982, I also recorded February 1, 2, 16, and 18, 1983 today.  I am presently recording two episodes from the latter part of February 1983, and I am planning to record the March 8, 1983 episode with one of the final playings of It's Optional.

My aim is to record episodes with playings of pricing games that were retired at some point in the 1980s.

I don't know how many pricing games were in the rotation in Seasons 11 and 12, but I'd say it was quite low as opposed to the 77 active pricing games played on the modern-day episodes with Drew.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pannoni1 on June 10, 2021, 07:28:37 AM
^

At the beginning of Season 11, there were 44 games that were in active rotation with eight games having been retired at this point: Bullseye '72, Double Bullseye, Double Digits, Mystery Price, Professor Price, Finish Line, The Shower Game, and the Telephone Game. It's a shame Hurdles and It's Optional were retired since they were by far the longest active games to have ever been retired up until that point, as all of the other games previously retired didn't even last a season, and in many cases, only lasted weeks. Both games became the first to be retired after 4 1/2 years, the longest stretch without a retirement that wouldn't be matched until the '90s between the retirement of Bump in 1991 and Split Decision in 1997. With the latest game currently in the rotation, Walk of Fame, we're currently up to 46 now, and will continue to grow to 50 games at the start of Season 14 with the premiere of Bump before the retirements of Trader Bob, Walk of Fame, On The Nose, and the Balance Game in late 1985 will revert that total back to 46, and won't hit the 50 game mark again until a brief period at the start of Season 17 with Spelling Bee, before hitting a fresh high as the '80s drew to a close at 52 games with Super Saver, MYM, and 2 For The Price of 1, with Add 'Em Up becoming the 15th game to be retired.

Still, considering that there were just 20 active games for the first two months of the hour-long era proved that the variety was missing until the plethora of new games released between 1976-1983 really helped to make the show what it is. That said, regarding a lack of new games, just think of it as an overfilled bookcase with extra books piled on the floor in front of the bookcases; there's basically no more room to grow unless if they retire certain games to make way for more. Still, I find 50 games the "Sweet spot" in terms of a balance of familiarity and variety.

That said, the show had to compete with the very popular Wheel of Fortune at the time, and continued to do so until Pat left the daytime show. Afterwards, while overall ratings may not have changed too much, the gap between it and #2 (Family Feud) continued to grow until Price was the only game in town.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SteveGavazzi on June 10, 2021, 09:11:30 PM
I think the mid-1980s was when the show was at its peak period in the ratings.  We used to see, on average, three pricing game debuts per season back then...However, by the end of the 1980s, we'd be lucky to see only two pricing game debuts, and by the mid-2000s we were fortunate to see one pricing game debut at most per season.  Now, we don't see any new pricing games anymore, and in the past few months on the current TPIR, budget mode has been commonplace.

This is fairly ridiculous.  First of all, you're equating the set budget with the prize budget when the two don't have anything to do with one another.  That aside, Season 12 was the last year of the '80s in which three games debuted -- all the rest had either one or two.  Conversely, four games debuted in Season 20 (the only time that's happened since the '70s), and three each were introduced in 22, 24, 26, 27, 30, and 32.

I think the Pluto channel only focuses on the 1980s, from 1982 to possibly 1989, because it was during that period that the show was in its prime in the ratings.  These are ratings that would never be seen again after Dian was terminated from the show and Bob Barker refused to have the show modernize with the times.  At least the models did, in a way, modernize their wardrobes to the fashion trends by the turn of this century.  We may get to see one season with the earliest playings of Spelling Bee and maybe a very small number of playings of Super Saver on Pluto later on down the road, and that would be a very interesting season to finish up the fresh episodes that the 1980s had to offer.  But first, we have to take care of 1984 before we see any of the later years.  I, however, would be quite surprised to see the channel evolve into the 1990s.

What in God's name are you going on about here?  The channel's staff has already made it crystal clear that they plan to run every airable show they have from Season 11 all the way through Season 35.  The only thing that's worth speculating over is whether or not they ever swing back and do Seasons 1-10, because the rest we already know.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: blozier2006 on June 10, 2021, 11:12:52 PM
The only thing that's worth speculating over is whether or not they ever swing back and do Seasons 1-10, because the rest we already know.
I don't see any reason why they wouldn't... though I'm honestly surprised that the cherry-picking GSN did when they had the rights didn't generate any paperwork (or at least paperwork accessible to Fremantle) that could save the time required to visually search the tape archives a second time.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on June 11, 2021, 12:09:37 AM
What in God's name are you going on about here?  The channel's staff has already made it crystal clear that they plan to run every airable show they have from Season 11 all the way through Season 35.  The only thing that's worth speculating over is whether or not they ever swing back and do Seasons 1-10, because the rest we already know.

Yeah I didn't get that.....especially considering you got a whole generation of people (me included) that literally grew up on grey-haired Bob strictly, not to mention Rod. I can't see why the staff wouldn't wanna tap into that market of fans. It'd be foolish not to.
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Post by: Thatgameshowguy on June 11, 2021, 09:32:40 PM
(or at least paperwork accessible to Fremantle)


It was my understanding that anything generated by GSN (including digitized shows) was not made accessible to Fremantle or Buzzr.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: gsn93 on June 12, 2021, 03:53:58 AM
It was my understanding that anything generated by GSN (including digitized shows) was not made accessible to Fremantle or Buzzr.

Fremantle has used GSN copies for some of the shows they've been airing on Buzzr. It's mostly noticeable on the black and white shows like the Bill Cullen hosted Price is Right shown below. Easier to run those when they were already pre-screened back in the '90s for furs and cigarette sponsorships.

youtu.be/yhW2BAA9mdY?t=1672 (Just copy and paste the link to watch at the correct timestamp.)

It's not out of the realm of possibility that Fremantle has a master list of airable shows.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on June 12, 2021, 12:03:40 PM
Fremantle has used GSN copies for some of the shows they've been airing on Buzzr. It's mostly noticeable on the black and white shows like the Bill Cullen hosted Price is Right shown below. Easier to run those when they were already pre-screened back in the '90s for furs and cigarette sponsorships.

youtu.be/yhW2BAA9mdY?t=1672 (Just copy and paste the link to watch at the correct timestamp.)

It's not out of the realm of possibility that Fremantle has a master list of airable shows.

Only difference here would be the fee plugs (particularly in 2nd SCSD), which GSN never did run back then but they have here. So that aspect would be a tad different I think.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: jlgarfield on June 12, 2021, 03:20:33 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0pVgla7.jpg)

From the "Before They Were Stars" department: Janet Jones, the future Mrs. Wayne Gretzky, was in one of the eps shown on Pluto TV so far, the April 4, 1983 ep. :D
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 12, 2021, 06:56:14 PM
Ahhh I remember this episode!  Tough luck on Card Game; by the way, as the seasons and episodes come and go, it’ll be interesting to come across a lot of other “Before They Were Famous” contestants.  Personal note: Sort of like that one 90s movie “Can’t Hardly Wait” that I’ve seen about (or at least) 25 times where each time I watched it I learned that there was a future star that I didn’t really focus on previously.


To echo what may end up on the channel.  I’m still in a never-say-never moment when it comes to if and when they ever add the first 10 seasons or if they can get GSN material that Fremantle couldn’t air because they were working off of super-outdated material or whatever the reasons are.

I too never heard anything about the show sticking with Season 11-18.  I’ve followed the Social Media accounts for the channel, and several times they’ve emphasized that they plan to air everything from 1982-2007.  Feels like I’ll be dead before they get close, but despite what seems like it’ll be a while before they get to the end, it’s still super early in the history of the Barker Channel. 

Based on the current routine, they could reach early 1985 episodes by next February or around the winter months, and then by the end of next summer’s months, they could reach early 1986 episodes.  If that holds, then we’re talking about four seasons run on the channel roughly two years removed for the December 2020 start.  I think it’s okay, since that factors into keeping the early Season 11 shows in the rotation.

To be brief, each era has their pros and cons.  Sure you had the team of Bob, Johnny, Janice, Dian, and Holly then Rod succeeding Johnny later on.  Despite Dian & Holly’s departure, IMO, the show started to focus more on the contestants.  While the cast didn’t have many iconic moments (save for Bob), you got that with the contestants in a way that you didn’t see early in the Barker Era
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 14, 2021, 07:16:40 PM
The Social Media Account for the Barker Era PIR just announced their final release, which includes shows from January 18, 1984 to February 27, 1984.  Looks like 4 episodes will be skipped


Episodes 5163D to 5221D (https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1404574628341858306) scheduled to drop on Wednesday, June 16th, 2021 at 5 PM Eastern.  In case someone can't watch those, they'll re-air again at the end of the month (on or around 06/29/2021)
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Post by: pricefan18 on June 14, 2021, 07:45:44 PM
The Social Media Account for the Barker Era PIR just announced their final release, which includes shows from January 18, 1984 to February 27, 1984.  Looks like 4 episodes will be skipped

Final release? What does that mean? That has to be a mistake on your part? I see nothing indicating it is a final one.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 14, 2021, 08:08:03 PM
Final release? What does that mean? That has to be a mistake on your part? I see nothing indicating it is a final one.

My fault!  Bad choice of words.  Can't believe I posted that!

What I likely meant to say is that it's probably the last 25 episodes to get to 300 within the cycle.  Nothing final at all, just based on how they've done things in the past, it should be the last set of new episodes released for awhile
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Post by: brettreilly on June 14, 2021, 11:11:42 PM
Hi everyone, been a long time and I know I’m very late to the party but…. It’s so beautiful. This is what we all wanted for many years, right? Since its last airing on GSN.

A couple of things I’ve noticed. They really are airing everything, and the show definitely had its… let’s just say not super PC moments. $100 pocket, etc.

Seeing Retired PGs like Super Ball, Trader Bob, and multiple airings of the Phone Home Game is so Fing cool. Did we already pass the last airings of Hurdles?

The game is so, so, so much better paced. Like compare this with a 2007 episode where they still made the show the same “live to tape” method but they were way more restricted in time. People more well versed than me can speak to how many more minutes of commercials were added but Bob clearly enjoyed having more time to riff with contestants.

I tear up a little bit every time I see “A Mark Goodson, Bill Todman production.”

Just can’t believe this is real. Thanks, going back to the abyss.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on June 15, 2021, 06:51:56 PM
Episode #5113 has an unintentionally hilarious moment where during the Showcase Showdown, Bob mentions the idea of making a 24-hour network of nothing but Bob Barker-hosted television, using the shows he's made over the years. I bet he never thought it would happen.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on June 15, 2021, 06:53:48 PM
Episode #5113 has an unintentionally hilarious moment where during the Showcase Showdown, Bob mentions the idea of making a 24-hour network of nothing but Bob Barker-hosted television, using the shows he's made over the years. I bet he never thought it would happen.

I wonder what he thinks about it today, assuming he's aware.
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 15, 2021, 07:32:51 PM
I wonder what he thinks about it today, assuming he's aware.

I'm pretty willing to bet that he is aware.  Otherwise it would not have happened.

To be fair, I don't think there were any "24-hour" marathons or 24/7 networks around that time for any TV programming.  I think we were at least 15 years away.  Of course GSN surfaced about a decade removed from those comments (at least 10 years).  I couldn't easily dream of a 24-hour or 24/7/365 channel full of gameshows in 1994 let alone TPIR 26 years later
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Post by: pricefan18 on June 15, 2021, 08:27:25 PM
I'm pretty willing to bet that he is aware.  Otherwise it would not have happened.

To be fair, I don't think there were any "24-hour" marathons or 24/7 networks around that time for any TV programming.  I think we were at least 15 years away.  Of course GSN surfaced about a decade removed from those comments (at least 10 years).  I couldn't easily dream of a 24-hour or 24/7/365 channel full of gameshows in 1994 let alone TPIR 26 years later

The only one I could think of would be ESPN, that debuted in 1979, or 3/4 years before this, but that wasn't all one show ever course. CNN would be another, coming on the next year after in 1980.
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Post by: Casey on June 15, 2021, 08:42:32 PM
The only one I could think of would be ESPN, that debuted in 1979, or 3/4 years before this, but that wasn't all one show ever course. CNN would be another, coming on the next year after in 1980.
The Weather Channel started in 1982... 
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: johnnymatch on June 15, 2021, 08:51:21 PM
As someone just mentioned Bob’s “awareness”…
Does anyone know how our 97 1/2 year old friend is doing health-wise (ambulatorily and/or cognitively?)
I don’t know whether G-R still has Roger as a resource anymore.
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Post by: blozier2006 on June 15, 2021, 11:11:29 PM
As someone just mentioned Bob’s “awareness”…
Does anyone know how our 97 1/2 year old friend is doing health-wise (ambulatorily and/or cognitively?)
Pretty sure Roger said Bob has around-the-clock live-in assistance now (which, to be frank, is to be expected of someone almost pushing the century mark).
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on June 15, 2021, 11:41:49 PM
Pretty sure Roger said Bob has around-the-clock live-in assistance now (which, to be frank, is to be expected of someone almost pushing the century mark).

Even moreso given he fell a year or two back I remember, I know he was seen in a wheelchair around same time roughly I believe too.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: holdme on June 16, 2021, 08:08:58 PM
Who is the brunette model with the shoulder length hair on the currently airing show...5171?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 16, 2021, 08:17:47 PM
Who is the brunette model with the shoulder length hair on the currently airing show...5171?


I think that might be Kyle.


Looks like they've been playing a lot of Car games in the 4th slot this season.  I don't remember all of them.  So far it's been over a quarter dozen; could be much more as the line-ups become disclosed in time
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Post by: actual_retail_tice on June 17, 2021, 10:07:34 AM
Some of the episodes airing now are the ones where cars pop up in odd places in the showcases, such as being the first or the middle prize. They didn't stick with this long and when it did happen, another big prize, like a trailer, appeared as the last prize. (#5195D does this, and at least one other show during Holly's absence also does.)
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Post by: holdme on June 17, 2021, 01:04:08 PM
So 5201, 5212, and 5213 are three of the four skipped shows in this batch. Can someone confirm the other one that was skipped please?
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on June 17, 2021, 01:16:03 PM
So 5201, 5212, and 5213 are three of the four skipped shows in this batch. Can someone confirm the other one that was skipped please?

5193D -- Hayloft Ethel.

Also, they actually aired 5201D and skipped 5202D.  Not sure what's causing the confusion with the show numbers -- heck, it's possible my data is what's wrong.
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Post by: sideshowPA on June 17, 2021, 02:15:06 PM
Also, they actually aired 5201D and skipped 5202D.  Not sure what's causing the confusion with the show numbers -- heck, it's possible my data is what's wrong.

say it ain't so!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: actual_retail_tice on June 17, 2021, 03:12:00 PM
#5214D: Is the rangefinder STILL not working? In this playing, the rangefinder is noticeably crooked again and stops moving a few moments before the contestant actually hits the button. Bob notices the early stop and takes a moment to observe just how badly off-kilter it looks, and for a moment, it seems like he might declare it a technical win right then and there. However, the contestant wins without a shadow of a doubt.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: Guint on June 17, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
Also, they actually aired 5201D and skipped 5202D.  Not sure what's causing the confusion with the show numbers -- heck, it's possible my data is what's wrong.

No, I'm pretty sure it was a Pluto screwup...Bob mentioned at the top of the show that this was episode number #2601 (which it wasn't...it was the 2,503rd episode). Some people in Discord mentioned that assuming every production week had five shows, then that count would be consistent with 5201D. Plus literally every other unknown show has matched up correctly, so I'm inclined to believe you over the intern responsible for putting it up.

Also hi, my first post in over 4 years. :)
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Post by: pannoni1 on June 17, 2021, 06:43:49 PM
With another set of 100 in, it's time to bring a sigh of relief when Pluto finally passes the end of GSN's lease, when on April 4, 2000, despite Price still remaining on its schedule over on its website for the last two weeks, it aired instead a double run of The Newlywed Game in its place. This season also brought Marc Breslow's first Emmy win for Best Individual Director, and it really continues to show with the quality camerawork.

As of February 27, 1984:

*The production company is still labelled as Goodson-Todman.
*The original win graphic is still being used during the Showcase Showdown (the "Grand Game marquee" was definitely in use by May 25, 1984).
*The Phone Home Game's intro theme now plays when the $10,000 is found
*Most Expensive's second set is still in use.
*Most Expensive's price tags are still present on the Five Price Tags set.
*The Card Game is still referred to as the New Card Game.
*Other known upcoming changes like the revamped Penny Ante set, second .50 display on Check-Out, Bullseye arrow, and the first appearance of the Tugboat have not yet occurred as of this point.

Also, I noticed that 5153D (1/11/1984) is the latest known usage of The Feud cue during the reveal of the car on Ten Chances. The following episode also introduced the second Race Game Curtain.

During the latest playing of Walk of Fame (2/24/1984), Dianne Beatty's autograph was found in the books. In addition to Kyle, I also noticed Kristin Bjorklund as a guest model on another episode. She appeared occasionally as a sub on Card Sharks like Janice Baker, another one of the subs during the latest set.

5201D also mentioned that over $43 million had been given away on the daytime show up to that point.

Still, The Phone Home Game wouldn't ever have quite the overload like it did over the past several weeks of episodes, settling down to a weekly game for most of the rest of its run.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 17, 2021, 07:21:37 PM
#5214D: Is the rangefinder STILL not working? In this playing, the rangefinder is noticeably crooked again and stops moving a few moments before the contestant actually hits the button. Bob notices the early stop and takes a moment to observe just how badly off-kilter it looks, and for a moment, it seems like he might declare it a technical win right then and there. However, the contestant wins without a shadow of a doubt.

I think Bob definitely awards a win if the price had ended up being revealed around the top or the bottom of the rangefinder.  If it's a little off I guess it is what it is, but that look very bad.

With the revelation of all these episodes, it appears that there were several car games played 4th, including and especially 3 Strikes.  I understand that this might have been something that occurred every-so-often into Season 13 before it became common by the middle of the 2000s.  Looks like whenever this happened, it was within an episode that featured a cash game.

While I recalled 3 Strikes in the 4th slot in the opening week, I did not recall that game or Ten Chances or whatever else showing up at that spot
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: mellongraig on June 17, 2021, 10:04:16 PM
With another set of 100 in, it's time to bring a sigh of relief when Pluto finally passes the end of GSN's lease, when on April 4, 2000, despite Price still remaining on its schedule over on its website for the last two weeks, it aired instead a double run of The Newlywed Game in its place. This season also brought Marc Breslow's first Emmy win for Best Individual Director, and it really continues to show with the quality camerawork.

As of February 27, 1984:

*The production company is still labelled as Goodson-Todman.
*The original win graphic is still being used during the Showcase Showdown (the "Grand Game marquee" was definitely in use by May 25, 1984).
*The Phone Home Game's intro theme now plays when the $10,000 is found
*Most Expensive's second set is still in use.
*Most Expensive's price tags are still present on the Five Price Tags set.
*The Card Game is still referred to as the New Card Game.
*Other known upcoming changes like the revamped Penny Ante set, second .50 display on Check-Out, Bullseye arrow, and the first appearance of the Tugboat have not yet occurred as of this point.

Also, I noticed that 5153D (1/11/1984) is the latest known usage of The Feud cue during the reveal of the car on Ten Chances. The following episode also introduced the second Race Game Curtain.

During the latest playing of Walk of Fame (2/24/1984), Dianne Beatty's autograph was found in the books. In addition to Kyle, I also noticed Kristin Bjorklund as a guest model on another episode. She appeared occasionally as a sub on Card Sharks like Janice Baker, another one of the subs during the latest set.

5201D also mentioned that over $43 million had been given away on the daytime show up to that point.

Still, The Phone Home Game wouldn't ever have quite the overload like it did over the past several weeks of episodes, settling down to a weekly game for most of the rest of its run.

In addition, as of February 27, 1984, the losing horns are still using 3 different versions since the show began (where version #1 would become the sole version soon afterward), versions 2 and 3 would make a comeback on the 80s Card Sharks, plus version 2 would be used on Bruce's Price is Right.
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Post by: MSTieScott on June 20, 2021, 09:45:10 PM
Every time Most Expensive showed up, I wondered why there were pointy white angles visible behind the tops of the first and third number displays.

[attachimg=1]

Sure enough, it turns out that the back sides of the displays were used as separate background elements.

[attachimg=2]

I also just noticed that in 4732D and 4734D, the disclaimers in the credits are in the wrong spots. "The following suppliers of products or services have furnished them free or at less than retail" is supposed to refer to the suppliers of the larger prizes, but it's above the suppliers of fee items. And "The following suppliers of products or services have paid for their use and promotion" is supposed to be first, with the grocery/small prize sponsors. I wonder how long that lasted.

[Edit: Clearly, I do not understand how to use the board's attachment feature to place the images within the text.]
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Post by: blozier2006 on June 20, 2021, 10:00:19 PM
Man, those Most Expensive props were ugly, no matter which side was facing forward!
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Post by: Alfonzo on June 20, 2021, 10:06:34 PM
Man, those Most Expensive props were ugly, no matter which side was facing forward!

You can say that again! I thought Most Expensive was ugly even as a little kid in the 70s. That "1" on the far left prop didn't match the "2" or the "3" and that drove me crazy!
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Post by: SteveGavazzi on June 21, 2021, 03:10:34 AM
That "1" on the far left prop didn't match the "2" or the "3" and that drove me crazy!

And the lights around the "3" didn't match the lights around the "1" and the "2."  That set had a hell of a lot of issues for being so simple.

Do we know if those generic backdrops on the other side stuck around once the third set debuted?
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Post by: plinkowin2010 on June 21, 2021, 06:54:15 PM
In a way I did liked the Most Expensive props, I liked the price tags and how the lights flashed when the doors opened. Once Neon Most Expensive set made its debut. the previous one with the back drop retired. Does anyone know if any of the old Most Expensive props or backdrops are still back stage or did they get tossed?
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Post by: priceguy on June 21, 2021, 08:20:28 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Rich Fields once said he has one of the 1984 props. But I don't know about the others though. Check Bob Boden's garage?
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Post by: SeaBreeze341 on June 21, 2021, 10:01:45 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Rich Fields once said he has one of the 1984 props. But I don't know about the others though. Check Bob Boden's garage?

And if Bob doesn't have them, maybe they'll turn up in that upcoming Game Show Museum in Rochester!

While I'm a fan of the past set and props, I have to admit Most Expensive's second set was not good.  During my major 1999 re-watch of the show, a decade and a half removed from the upgrade, I thought it looked hideous compared to what replaced it.  In time, I don't "hate" it as much, but IMO, it's definitely 4th out of all of them.

I personally did not mind it when ME and Five Price Tags shared the same set.  It may have felt cheap, I don't know.  But thinking back, it was a downgrade.

The 4th set is great, but I prefer the 3rd one the best.  Whenever I'm driving within an area that has a streetlight that resembles the neon set, I feel like I'm in studio during Most Expensive
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 01, 2021, 08:19:57 AM
Looks like we're getting our first Marathon since the rotation reached 300 Episodes.  The Marathon, slated for Sunday, July 18 per TBE Social Media Account (https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1410571429733711881?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet), is pretty much a special with the Summer Olympics on the horizon
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 04, 2021, 06:17:41 PM
The promo for the Golden Games marathon features footage of at least Hurdles, Super Ball, Hole in One, and Race Game - the latter three involving physical activity to play.  I bet, if we get the Golden Games marathon again in 2024, if we're lucky, we may get to see episodes with On the Nose being played.  I wonder, if Pluto adds 100 more episodes next time around, could we possibly see at least two or three playings of On the Nose?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pannoni1 on July 05, 2021, 08:12:56 AM
The promo for the Golden Games marathon features footage of at least Hurdles, Super Ball, Hole in One, and Race Game - the latter three involving physical activity to play.  I bet, if we get the Golden Games marathon again in 2024, if we're lucky, we may get to see episodes with On the Nose being played.  I wonder, if Pluto adds 100 more episodes next time around, could we possibly see at least two or three playings of On the Nose?

Assuming there's no skips, the next 100 will take us to October 1, 1984, which is after the third playing of arguably the most varied game in the show's history in which a different skill is presented each time.

A fifth game that could be featured in Golden Games is Bullseye, since archery is also an Olympic sport.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 05, 2021, 05:21:38 PM
Now, I have another question: Have there been any perfect shows (all six pricing games won) broadcast among what has aired on Pluto so far?  If so, what were their original CBS airdates?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on July 05, 2021, 05:33:28 PM
Now, I have another question: Have there been any perfect shows (all six pricing games won) broadcast among what has aired on Pluto so far?  If so, what were their original CBS airdates?

I definitely remember seeing one, I believe from early Season 12.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 05, 2021, 09:06:47 PM
I definitely remember seeing one, I believe from early Season 12.

Just surfed through the Season 12 recaps on qwizx. Unless I misread, it turns out the episode in question was aired on December 22, 1983 - day 4 of Christmas Week.  Even Trader Bob on that episode was won.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: RatRace10 on July 05, 2021, 10:55:07 PM
Turns out there was another one, in Season 11: 4914D, May 5, 1983. This included Give or Keep won by a dollar, and Ten Chances being won on the last chance with only one violation of the Zero Rule, and a perfect Penny Ante. Full Lineup: GoK/10C/1RP/Poker/Penny/Money.

If my math is right, this episode should be airing on Pluto at 8 PM Eastern/5 Pacific tomorrow (July 6).
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 06, 2021, 06:19:44 PM
Here is a list of airdates I have on my spreadsheet, covering the period of March 15, 1983 to April 29, 1983.

March 15, 1983   11:00:00 AM   July 5, 2021
March 16, 1983   12:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 17, 1983   01:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 18, 1983   02:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 21, 1983   03:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 22, 1983   04:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 24, 1983   05:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 25, 1983   06:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 28, 1983   07:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 29, 1983   08:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 30, 1983   09:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
March 31, 1983   10:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
April 4, 1983   11:00:00 PM   July 5, 2021
April 5, 1983   12:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 6, 1983   01:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 7, 1983   02:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 8, 1983   03:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 11, 1983   04:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 12, 1983   05:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 13, 1983   06:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 14, 1983   07:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 15, 1983   08:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 18, 1983   09:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 19, 1983   10:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 20, 1983   11:00:00 AM   July 6, 2021
April 21, 1983   12:00:00 PM   July 6, 2021
April 22, 1983   01:00:00 PM   July 6, 2021
April 25, 1983   02:00:00 PM   July 6, 2021
April 26, 1983   03:00:00 PM   July 6, 2021
April 27, 1983   04:00:00 PM   July 6, 2021
April 28, 1983   05:00:00 PM   July 6, 2021
April 29, 1983   06:00:00 PM   July 6, 2021

I recorded the 4 PM ET broadcast today, on July 6.  It was actually April 29, 1983 that aired in that time slot instead of April 27, 1983. Were there any skipped episodes in that range that I didn't take into account?  I knew something was out of line when I discovered Super Ball being played as the first pricing game of my latest recording.

And I already know about the skipped April 1, 1983 episode, which is why it is not listed among the Pluto airdates in the above list.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 06, 2021, 06:31:16 PM
It appears that Pluto is starting to skip certain episodes slated for the Golden Games Marathon, which is schedule for one week from this Sunday.  Looks like they're 3 hours ahead of what I had mapped out on my spreadsheet, and 4933D is getting skipped within the next few hours (original CBS airdate 05/18/1983)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 06, 2021, 07:15:35 PM
Just out of curiosity, do you know at this point what episodes are being skipped and reserved for the upcoming Golden Games marathon?  I'd like to find out so I can adjust my schedule on my spreadsheet accordingly.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 06, 2021, 07:23:23 PM
Currently they are airing 4914D, which is 3 hours in advance of what was slated to air.  The next skip for marathon purposes (presumably) occurs on Wednesday, July 7th at 4 AM Eastern
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 06, 2021, 07:44:06 PM
What would be the expected skipped episode tomorrow morning at 4 a.m. ET?

Also, how many episodes are expected to be shown in the marathon?
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 06, 2021, 07:56:09 PM
4933D is expected to be skipped. Plus, based off of all the past marathons, with the exception of the Christmas Marathon (since it occurred within the first month of the channel), there should be 12 shows for the Golden Games special
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 07, 2021, 02:44:14 PM
The next episode I was hoping to record is the Season 12 premiere, which was originally expected to be shown on Pluto at 11:00 a.m. ET, but since we know that three episodes - maybe more as of this post - will have been skipped and possibly being reserved for the July 18 marathon, I wonder what episodes are being skipped before the next Pluto airing of the Season 12 premiere?  As of early this morning, that season premiere replay was pushed back to 8:00 a.m. ET tomorrow, if my math is correct.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 07, 2021, 03:14:50 PM
I'm guessing episodes that features or featured (big) wins from Race Game, Hole In One, and Super Ball
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 07, 2021, 03:22:36 PM
If this is the case, they're choosing the cream of the crop in terms of wins on Hurdles, Hole in One, Superball and Race Game.

The episode which was skipped early this morning had Hole in One being won, and the car was expensive. Makes a whole lot of sense as to why they are skipping it and reserving it for the marathon.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 07, 2021, 04:08:58 PM
Yeah.  It's pretty much what they did with Hit Me & Poker Game for the Casino Marathon.


Super Ball may be difficult to add, but from September 1982 - February 1984, it was won (with the Super Ball going into the WIN circle) at least 3 times
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: FanOfDrew87 on July 07, 2021, 05:04:47 PM
I am also thinking that, regarding Race Game, it may likely be based on how fast it took to win all four prizes.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 07, 2021, 05:58:48 PM
I believe one of the promos includes that (a record at that time).  I don't think it was won that much within the Pluto content, so any win might do
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 07, 2021, 11:52:16 PM
As of the 11 PM Eastern hour, there are no skips.  I believe that's the case through the morning of July 8th EST.  At that point we'll be into Season 12.  FWIW, much of the biggest or special wins in all the games (except Hurdles) occur in this season (unlike in Season 11).  That includes a 6th line putt in five consecutive occasions where Hole in One is won.


From the four featured pricing games, the show will have a ton to choose from in terms of wins in Hole in One and Race Game.  Super Ball had a couple wins max (in Season 12).  Then there's Hurdles which wasn't featured as much in Season 11 but enough to include it in the marathon.

One thing to consider: some (or just one) episodes might include a Race Game win but a Hole In One loss, so I would figure that they wouldn't want to add that to the special.  There is one episode that features a win in more than one of the "Golden Games" specifically 4744D
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on July 07, 2021, 11:56:16 PM
As of the 11 PM Eastern hour, there are no skips.  I believe that's the case through the morning of July 8th EST.  At that point we'll be into Season 12.  FWIW, much of the biggest or special wins in all the games (except Hurdles) occur in this season (unlike in Season 11).  That includes a 6th line putt in five consecutive occasions where Hole in One is won.

Am I to understand that to mean, that Hole in One was won 5 times in a row from the 6th line? That's pretty amazing if so.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 08, 2021, 12:27:53 AM
Am I to understand that to mean, that Hole in One was won 5 times in a row from the 6th line? That's pretty amazing if so.


No. I'm sorry (for not being as clear as possible).  Each win in Hole In One from October 1983 to January 1984 featured someone putting for the sixth line.  There were some losses within that timeframe, but every time a winner was crowned, he or she played the game perfectly.  Nobody putting from the 4th or 5th line (no bonus with those).

It's still amazing regardless
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on July 08, 2021, 01:37:13 AM

No. I'm sorry (for not being as clear as possible).  Each win in Hole In One from October 1983 to January 1984 featured someone putting for the sixth line.  There were some losses within that timeframe, but every time a winner was crowned, he or she played the game perfectly.  Nobody putting from the 4th or 5th line (no bonus with those).

It's still amazing regardless

Oh.....I totally misunderstood the quote....I was reading it in reverse (ie: Each win saw the contestant putting from the very last/back line). It being the first line makes more sense, still pretty amazing though. I'd be curious with this what the record for a single season would be of this occurring. Would anyone be able to know? I can't imagine it'd be much higher than this.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 09, 2021, 11:55:06 PM
I think Season 12 might be the record.  Several years later, the Hole in One OR 2 option played out to where someone putting from the 4th or 5th line would win with 2 chances after falling victim to bad luck in his or her first shot.

As for putting from the 1st time or where Bob/Drew putt: I can only recall one guy winning on his first try from that line after some awful pricing (or some tough luck between his first two selections).  Cannot recall it happening prior to the 1999 segment of Season 27 as it's been too long & most people end up putting closer to the hole than not
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 18, 2021, 12:07:53 AM
As is the custom for the marathons on the channel, they’ll be starting at 6 AM Eastern.  It’s probable that they’ll run 12 episodes twice before returning to the rotation at 4885D at 6 AM EST on 07/19/2021.  What’s different is that as of 11-Midnight ET, they’re not scheduled to air the selected episodes in chronological order.  I’m guessing that they’re attempting to mix them up so that we’re not getting all the shows that feature Hurdles wins before the shows that feature all the Super Ball wins.  Here are the following episodes slated for the Golden Games Marathon:


4651 (11/01/82)
4681 (11/22/82)
4711 (12/13/82)
4744 (01/06/83)
4864 (03/31/83)
4882 (04/12/83)
4911 (05/02/83)
4933 (05/18/83)
5013 (09/28/83)
5032 (10/11/83)
5074 (11/10/83)
5143 (01/04/84)


A couple of things:  Similar to the Casino special, these episodes features wins in the four pricing games promoted for the GG Marathon, and a couple episodes features more than one PG from the group of Race Game, Hurdles, Hole in One, and Super Ball!!


This is the first marathon to feature episodes from Season 12, BTW
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: JarodJGames on July 18, 2021, 12:33:43 AM
As is the custom for the marathons on the channel, they’ll be starting at 6 AM Eastern.  It’s probable that they’ll run 12 episodes twice before returning to the rotation at 4885D at 6 AM EST on 07/19/2021.  What’s different is that as of 11-Midnight ET, they’re not scheduled to air the selected episodes in chronological order.  I’m guessing that they’re attempting to mix them up so that we’re not getting all the shows that feature Hurdles wins before the shows that feature all the Super Ball wins.  Here are the following episodes slated for the Golden Games Marathon:


4651 (11/01/82)
4681 (11/22/82)
4711 (12/13/82)
4744 (01/06/83)
4864 (03/31/83)
4882 (04/12/83)
4911 (05/02/83)
4933 (05/18/83)
5013 (09/28/83)
5032 (10/11/83)
5074 (11/10/83)
5143 (01/04/84)


A couple of things:  Similar to the Casino special, these episodes features wins in the four pricing games promoted for the GG Marathon, and a couple episodes features more than one PG from the group of Race Game, Hurdles, Hole in One, and Super Ball!!


This is the first marathon to feature episodes from Season 12, BTW
I also like that we also get our first 1984 Episode in a Marathon.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: jbtsouthwest on July 20, 2021, 07:29:39 PM
Hi,
  On ep. ‘180’ today an excited guy won a car and wanted to go see it.  Bob have a long explanation that S&P wouldn’t allow that because he might accidentally see prices backstage.  Anyone else catch that? I found that fascinating, has that ever been mentioned before, is that the ‘real’ reason (sure sounded honest), and since it’s obviously the opposite now, when/why did that change? Just another neat tidbit that make these episodes Gold!
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: plinkowin2010 on July 21, 2021, 11:59:00 AM
yes, I saw that episode was wondering the same thing and what changed. I wonder if they have the prizes/prices more concealed today than they did back then.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pannoni1 on August 06, 2021, 08:13:52 AM
It looks like I'd wager that there will still be at least three more cycles to get through before the next batch of 100 drops. The reset back to 4581D is slated for tonight at 10 PM Eastern/7PM Pacific, with the next cycles starting at the same times on the morning of August 19 and the evening of August 31. 10 AM Eastern on September 13 would be the earliest logical time to start the next batch, with summer vacations fully over by then, as well as being four months since the third 100 was dropped, giving Pluto plenty of time to get the next 100 ready, along with accounting for summer vacations. 5345 is still up on YouTube, as is the On The Nose debut from Season 13's premiere week, along with the is the clip from the Balance Game premiere, but since the later is just a clip in not so good quality and the others in later batches of the next 100, still allows time for those to be blocked on there. The evening of Saturday, September 25 also looks like a good time to drop since that would fall right around S50 premiere week. Something I didn't mention upthread is that Tom Kennedy's plug of Body Language should be included in the next set. We've had five complete or nearly complete cycles at this point since the last 25 episodes were dropped in early in June, and a total of eight seems like a good amount before the next drop, since there were eight cycles IIRC after the last batch from February's drop were released. Also look out for the transitional Penny Ante set since the logo does change to white from the Season 13 episodes I've seen of the game before the color scheme does in 1985.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on August 06, 2021, 02:43:37 PM
Something I didn't mention upthread is that Tom Kennedy's plug of Body Language should be included in the next set.

He appeared on the show? That's the first time I've ever heard of that.......that's really cool to find out, considering he'd host it himself obviously at night just a year later. I hope that episode isn't skipped when they reach it.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: CBSpromoman on August 07, 2021, 09:46:41 AM
Is anyone else seeing Pluto getting sloppier and sloppier with the airings?

I see some segments -- sometimes even the showcases -- cut to commercial in mid-act and then return for the credits. Sometimes, the win of a pricing game is missed because of these bizarre cuts to commercials.

Also, I'm seeing shows beginning a few minutes past the hour like they've drifted off the clock and no one at Pluto has noticed.

And as for commercial breaks -- I'm seeing a spot for Retinol and a spot for PrEP in almost EVERY commercial break. A few weeks back, it was the Ricky Bobby Dodge spot in EVERY commercial break.

Is everyone else seeing these problems or do I need to take my Roku box out back and put it out of its misery?

Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 07, 2021, 11:59:09 AM
I haven't noticed any declines in the airings, though that's partially due to the fact that I haven't followed the channel 24/7 in nearly 2 months.  It's hit or miss for me, but it hasn't been that great since December.

You are spot in in terms of them cutting into the middle of segments or just not airing the results at all (the showcase reveal would be edited out and the credits roll instead).  They have cut into the end of segments, usually right after the results.  The last time I watched regularly, it was a hard cut into those Slice commercials/ads.  Those didn't just air every commercial break, but sometimes twice within the break.  Retinol is overplayed as well.  At least they stopped with those Podcast ONE ads!

Three minutes past the hour is the norm.  It's not ideal, but I don't have a problem with that start time.

Anyway, it's not just you in terms of your issues.  However, some factors include one's devices and location.  I was in Florida over the past couple of weeks, and those issues weren't as bad
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: LiteBulb88 on August 07, 2021, 01:17:31 PM
This isn't unique to Pluto's TPiR channel. I've watched their American Gladiators channel and it has the same issues (awkward start times, having commercial breaks in the middle of games, etc.)
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on August 07, 2021, 01:52:47 PM
This isn't unique to Pluto's TPiR channel. I've watched their American Gladiators channel and it has the same issues (awkward start times, having commercial breaks in the middle of games, etc.)

I saw them repeat an entire segment of Galaxy Quest on another channel before as well, and as I recall, skip over a whole part of the movie in the process of doing so. It turned me off honestly seeing it. In looking at time, others have/had said they've done that with movies too (the repeating segments part namely), so yeah....I don't imagine this is just a TPIR channel thing at all. Just Pluto being Pluto seemingly.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 08, 2021, 11:03:59 AM
He appeared on the show? That's the first time I've ever heard of that.......that's really cool to find out, considering he'd host it himself obviously at night just a year later. I hope that episode isn't skipped when they reach it.

During the days of tape trading, well before YouTube, I do recall seeing mention of a Kennedy Cameo.  It would make sense since every other host before and after then that worked on G-T shows on CBS made appearances on TPIR to promote their shows.  I don't know or think (or recall without looking) Chuck Henry ever did.

I too hope it isn't skipped.  I guess it would've gotten lost since much of the second half of Season 12 is absent from the Internet
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: publisher on August 13, 2021, 12:01:23 PM
I saw them repeat an entire segment of Galaxy Quest on another channel before as well, and as I recall, skip over a whole part of the movie in the process of doing so. It turned me off honestly seeing it. In looking at time, others have/had said they've done that with movies too (the repeating segments part namely), so yeah....I don't imagine this is just a TPIR channel thing at all. Just Pluto being Pluto seemingly.

This seems to happen fairly regularly for me on the Star Trek channel. They'll go to commercial and when it resumes, the previous act starts playing again. If I change the channel and come back, it updates to the proper point in the program. All part of Pluto's kooky charm.
Title: Re: The Price is Right: The Barker Era on Pluto TV
Post by: pricefan18 on August 24, 2021, 01:58:18 AM
I don't think this has been mentioned elsewhere here, but in the episode reairing now (labeled as #112), there's a pretty hilarious blooper/technical win in 10 Chances. The woman playing (a older Spanish lady named Rachella with lots of character) had nailed the first two prices in one guess, leading Bob to play up that it had never happened before up to then (could that be verified? or was that Bob playing revisionist history as he often did over the years?) where a contestant won all 3 prizes in 1 try. Well....she did...except she didn't lol. She wrote down the wrong price for the car, but the stagehands goofed up and revealed the correct price anyway, leading Bob to of course award it to her on the spot. He then mentioned there'd be an asterisk next to her name ala Roger Maris when he hit 61 home runs. Really entertaining segment/moment and worth watching if you ever catch this episode playing again down the line.

EDIT: Speaking of Pluto being Pluto as far as the previous comments had alluded to.......again, for those that have seen this episode before did Rachella win both SC's? Or just one? I was really hoping to see the ending of this, as I liked her spunk, she was great all the way through her time onstage, but Pluto screwed up the ending and only cut to it mid closing credits. She won some $22,000 total so I am thinking she did, but hard to say. Ticks me off they messed it up though.....it's crazy to me this issue still hasn't been addressed on the channel after so long being in existence (meaning the overall channel not just th