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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: MrZone on August 16, 2021, 01:00:38 PM

Title: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: MrZone on August 16, 2021, 01:00:38 PM
Also of note. 2 new games will make itís debut. One is a limited one season only game.

https://t.co/D8LumHFyLi
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 16, 2021, 01:08:55 PM
More info.....apparently each day during Premiere Week will see a game where a contestant can win $1,000,000.....so in a way the MDS's are returning to kick off the season. https://www.viacomcbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=58044

Oh and also...this is new......"The episodes will also be available to stream live and on demand on the CBS app and Paramount+." no more online streaming only after the show has aired it appears.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: MrZone on August 16, 2021, 01:12:24 PM
More info.....apparently each day during Premiere Week will see a game where a contestant can win $1,000,000.....so in a way the MDS's are returning to kick off the season. https://www.viacomcbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=58044

Oh and also...this is new......"The episodes will also be available to stream live and on demand on the CBS app and Paramount+." no more online streaming only after the show has aired it appears.

This legit should be its own thread.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 16, 2021, 01:14:01 PM
This legit should be its own thread.

Which part? Or both?
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on August 16, 2021, 01:24:10 PM
I havenít been this enthusiastic for a new Price is Right season since probably Season 35, and that was before Barker announced his retirement.

Everything Iíve seen thus far points toward the network and production crew truly going out of their way to give this anniversary the special care it deserves.  Iím legitimately excited.  The September 13th premiere date is another surprise.  Perhaps the early jump is to allow for more episodes since the past two seasons were shortened.  Who knows.  All I know is my arse will be parked on the living room sofa from 10-11 local time that day.  I hope all who can see the show as it airs are able to do so.  I believe weíre in for something special.  The two-hour-long primetime episode ó the longest episode in the showís history ó to follow is the golden cherry on top.

Letís go!
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: bigblue999 on August 16, 2021, 01:40:25 PM
Watch it be Million Dollar Plinko.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: NickintheATL on August 16, 2021, 02:02:17 PM
More info.....apparently each day during Premiere Week will see a game where a contestant can win $1,000,000.....so in a way the MDS's are returning to kick off the season. https://www.viacomcbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=58044

Oh and also...this is new......"The episodes will also be available to stream live and on demand on the CBS app and Paramount+." no more online streaming only after the show has aired it appears.

I'm sorry, I think you're misinterpreting what "live" means. You can currently and have for a while stream your local CBS station and other CBS services via the CBS app and Paramount+. Price episodes have been available on these platforms as well. I see nothing changing. That is standard verbiage in any show press release these days.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JayC on August 16, 2021, 02:05:46 PM
Excellent news about the primetime special, and wow two hours! Little surprising it's being put against Thursday Night Football though.

Also nice the season is premiering a week earlier than usual. The new game Back to 72 sounds interesting, I guess it'll be like Now or Then but with more than just GPs. Wonder what the other game will be. The chance to win a million each episode seems unnecessary though, though maybe it's a nod to the MDSs. $50,000 each episode would've been appropriate.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: TinoStar11 on August 16, 2021, 02:11:11 PM
Little surprising it's being put against Thursday Night Football though.

I guess CBS isn't scared of the game being played that day , Jags vs Bengals , lol
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 16, 2021, 02:24:43 PM
I guess CBS isn't scared of the game being played that day , Jags vs Bengals , lol

No one's afraid of Jags/Bengals.  It's not even on FOX!
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 16, 2021, 02:36:53 PM
I'm sorry, I think you're misinterpreting what "live" means. You can currently and have for a while stream your local CBS station and other CBS services via the CBS app and Paramount+. Price episodes have been available on these platforms as well. I see nothing changing. That is standard verbiage in any show press release these days.

Oh, I didn't know about that. Shows how much I've been in the loop lately. I stand corrected though then.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pannoni1 on August 16, 2021, 03:04:33 PM
Now this is certainly must-watch TV right here, and I'm especially looking forward to a crowd of some capacity. I'd basically see this special to work like the 25th, with a mix of games and special segments featuring flashbacks and interviews, but with the full hourlong format presented. Even if it's just million dollar versions of cash games, I'd rather have MDS-style games where a certain goal, like lighting up every digit on Any Number in the car or coming to within a dime/quarter of the total in Check-Out.

Watching those season 1 episodes floating online is a great way to practice for that new game, and it will also be the first game to be played for just a single season since the original Time Is Money in Season 32.

No one's afraid of Jags/Bengals.  It's not even on FOX!

Not to mention that they're small market teams.

September 13 also lines up with when a cycle on Pluto is slated to end, and hopefully to commemorate a new season, the start of a fresh drop will also take place as well, being four months since the start of the previous drop began. Of course, the season premieres of Wheel, Feud, and of course the first Jeopardy! with Mike Richards as permanent host will also take place, so its definitely shaping up to be a red letter day in the history of game shows.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Briguy on August 16, 2021, 03:27:35 PM
Also of note. 2 new games will make itís debut. One is a limited one season only game.

https://t.co/D8LumHFyLi

It'll be interesting to see how this limited-run game plays. Sounds interesting from what little I've read.

Brian
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: thepriceis_J on August 16, 2021, 03:48:57 PM
Oh and also...this is new......"The episodes will also be available to stream live and on demand on the CBS app and Paramount+." no more online streaming only after the show has aired it appears.

Actually, this has been possible for at least the last five years when it was CBS All-Access. As long as you were in a market that supported it, you could watch a live stream of that affiliate. It was limited when it first debuted (I was lucky I lived in a city with an O&O), but expanded rapidly to the point where I think most, if not all, affiliates are supported. Has come in very handy over the years when I wasn't home during Price time.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: 123123123 on August 16, 2021, 03:51:12 PM
It seems they are going all out for the milestone, and I'm excited!! Of course we don't know the format of the primetime special, but I can only assume they'll have plenty of time to fill with throwback clips, BTS stuff and all kinds of contestant interaction.

The idea of Back to '72, a single season pricing game to commemorate the occasion, is also a nice touch. However my curiosity has me even more intrigued by the second, hopefully permanent, game on the docket.

Are/were there any clues or tidbits as to what that game about over the last year? I ask so I can spend the next month speculating and coming up with theories, just to be inevitably be proven wrong on premiere day  :-)
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: EvilChameleon on August 16, 2021, 03:55:07 PM
I guess CBS isn't scared of the game being played that day , Jags vs Bengals , lol
Primetime episodes of TPIR have beaten the NFL in the ratings before.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 16, 2021, 04:17:05 PM
Primetime episodes of TPIR have beaten the NFL in the ratings before.

When?


If you're talking about preseason, then that wouldn't be a surprise.  In the past 20-25 years, you'd have to show the numbers because the worst games still generate great numbers.  The 70s version + the 86 specials & the 1996 show having higher ratings than the NFL I can see, but not today.  After all, TPIR at night isn't too common during the regular season.

The upcoming two-hour special is more must see TV than a Week 4 game.  Different audiences.  FWIW and IMO, the same defense that was used for having Supermarket Sweep & WOF on Sunday nights can be used for TPIR against football. 


As for the format, I can see them using the hour format stretched into a couple hours;  I agree with that move.  Pretty much double what they did for TPIR 25.  So much to choose from, and given all the specials they've had for the daytime show alone, they'll be alright
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: GuyWithFace on August 16, 2021, 06:11:38 PM
Quote from: the linked Deadline article
The first prize ever offered on the show was a Chevy Vega worth $2,746
I rather suspect that this is a mangling of a line from the official press release, which correctly states that it was the first car offered.

For those who may be unaware, the first prize ever offered on the revival was in fact a fur coat worth $595.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on August 16, 2021, 06:24:10 PM
Watch it be Million Dollar Plinko.

only one thing, it's for the entire week.. do they dare have Plinko all 5 days?
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Plinkoman on August 16, 2021, 06:35:02 PM
only one thing, it's for the entire week.. do they dare have Plinko all 5 days?

They did have it six times in one day, so...
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on August 16, 2021, 06:36:36 PM
only one thing, it's for the entire week.. do they dare have Plinko all 5 days?

They already did do a full week of Plinko with a PCH gimmick, so...

I expect five different games though.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on August 16, 2021, 06:49:38 PM
i forgot about PCH Plinko Week, tbh
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: imhomerjay on August 16, 2021, 08:13:34 PM
Regarding Thursday Night Football, even if itís a potentially big game (by TNF standards), something has to air on the other networks. Sometimes you get sent into a battle. Such is the business.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: therealcu2010 on August 16, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Actually, this has been possible for at least the last five years when it was CBS All-Access. As long as you were in a market that supported it, you could watch a live stream of that affiliate. It was limited when it first debuted (I was lucky I lived in a city with an O&O), but expanded rapidly to the point where I think most, if not all, affiliates are supported. Has come in very handy over the years when I wasn't home during Price time.

CBS has joined the rest of the industry in making their live feed available with TV Everywhere credentials, meaning you merely need to log in with your cable provider info. No longer do you need a subscription to Paramount+.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JayC on August 16, 2021, 10:59:55 PM
No one's afraid of Jags/Bengals.  It's not even on FOX!
I forgot the early season TNF games aren't on FOX unless one of the teams is in the local market. I'm sure there's some who will want to see Trevor Lawrence against Joe Burrow, but yeah not that greatest matchup.

Hopefully it's not just Plinko for the game that offers a million the first week.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: gamesurf on August 17, 2021, 03:28:22 AM
This is insanely awesome news! My hype levels have been set accordingly!

Hopefully it's not just Plinko for the game that offers a million the first week.

The word "Plinko" wasn't even mentioned in the press release. They're not going to play Plinko five times for a million dollars. I'd be extremely shocked if they didn't play it once, because it's the show's most recognizable game and they're saluting 50 years of the Price is Right. But not five times.

Maybe Million Dollar Clock Game is another one, in tribute to one of the show's best moments (though I can't see the insurance company letting them get away with the prices being $899 and $999 this time).

Quote from: CBS Press Release
Are you a huge fan of the THE PRICE IS RIGHT? Does the show hold special meaning for you? Fans are invited to submit videos of what THE PRICE IS RIGHT means to them for a chance to see themselves on TV. More info here. Videos can be submitted to PriceIsRightFans@gmail.com.

In a different world, I would have done pretty much anything to take a trip to CBS for the 50th premiere and witness history. But the chance to be a part of the 50th Anniversary remotely is the next best thing. Maybe we see how many G-R.net members we can get on air?
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JhayPrice on August 17, 2021, 05:22:58 AM
I reckon the "Back to '72" game would be styled like the old Any Number, Money Game or Range Game boards! Shades of brown, orange and red would be very cool against the scheme of the turntable.

One thing I'd like to ask though is that do you think there's a chance within the premiere week that they'd play the Barker-era music for the entire episode, just like what they did with the Socially @wesome Week before?

Now's the perfect time I think, with the 1972 COD theme to be played again, after all it's The Price is Right, and I'll be happy on whatever it offers viewers (and LFATs).
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JT on August 17, 2021, 08:47:30 AM
This is all very exciting!  Happy to see the prime-time special and all the efforts to recognize the magnitude of this milestone.  Back to '72 will be interesting as a limited edition pricing game but who knows, if it's a hit, maybe they will change it to Back to the '70s come Season 51 or maybe they will spin it off and play versions like Back to the '80s and Back to the '90s.  There is definitely enough rich history to draw upon for those decades!   Having a second new game is also special given how long it's been since Gridlock debuted.   Looking forward to September!
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JayC on August 17, 2021, 09:15:45 AM
The word "Plinko" wasn't even mentioned in the press release. They're not going to play Plinko five times for a million dollars. I'd be extremely shocked if they didn't play it once, because it's the show's most recognizable game and they're saluting 50 years of the Price is Right. But not five times.
I know, I was just saying that in response to those who brought up the possibility. I highly doubt it would be Plinko all five days offering a million, I would think it'll be a different game each day. It could even be the bonus for a dollar on the wheel in the bonus spin will be for a million, or the bonus for a DSW is a million.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: silverice878 on August 17, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
I am genuinely looking forward to seeing the primetime special, and to all the great stuff we'll be seeing in season 50!
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: dagdoggnh on August 17, 2021, 11:20:08 AM
Aren't the Thursday night NFL games usually on both CBS and NFL Network?  I seem to remember CBS airing Thursday night NFL before.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Torgo on August 17, 2021, 11:26:48 AM
I'll bite.

Two hours is too long. I know the show has its 50th anniversary, but it has enough trouble keeping viewers throughout one hour.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on August 17, 2021, 12:38:38 PM
I thought so too...its one time only though, for a historic milestone, so i'm ok with it.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 17, 2021, 12:47:00 PM
Aren't the Thursday night NFL games usually on both CBS and NFL Network?  I seem to remember CBS airing Thursday night NFL before.

No.  Thursday night NFL games haven't aired on CBS for the past several years.  It used to be on CBS & NFLN though.  Prior to the move to FOX, NBC took over the second half of the 2016 & 2017 seasons (also airing simultaneously on NFL Network).

I imagine the special would've aired on Tuesday had CBS still had the rights for TNF.


Two hours of Price is fine.  I agree that I don't think Fremantle or whomever will do this again (or maybe they will), but I've watched consecutive episodes of past PIR.  2 hours of new content (though likely 1 show within the two hours is nice this time around
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 17, 2021, 12:51:49 PM
Two hours of Price is fine.  I agree that I don't think Fremantle or whomever will do this again (or maybe they will), but I've watched consecutive episodes of past PIR.  2 hours of new content (though likely 1 show within the two hours is nice this time around

I was thinking about it last night actually, assuming the traditional 1 hour format is used spread over the 2 hours, this might allow for a much more relaxed pacing gameplay wise for the first time in many many years, going back to the very beginning of Drew's tenure. It'll be interesting to see how that translates if they take advantage of the extra time for that purpose.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: EvilChameleon on August 17, 2021, 03:07:11 PM
I'll bite.

Two hours is too long. I know the show has its 50th anniversary, but it has enough trouble keeping viewers throughout one hour.
Does it? It's the highest rated show for its timeslot, always. Doesn't sound like a show that struggles to keep viewers to me.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Archviler on August 17, 2021, 03:58:52 PM
I'll bite.

Two hours is too long. I know the show has its 50th anniversary, but it has enough trouble keeping viewers throughout one hour.

So what? Let's grant what you claimed is true for the sake of argument. Even granting that, what does it matter? It's a 50th year anniversary show, that's a big deal and a big, special blowout for it is hardly a bad thing. Let the show have a few hours of pageantry in prime time. At worst it's clear the show doesn't work in that expanded format and lessons are learned.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Vgmastr on August 17, 2021, 06:38:18 PM
I was thinking about it last night actually, assuming the traditional 1 hour format is used spread over the 2 hours, this might allow for a much more relaxed pacing gameplay wise for the first time in many many years, going back to the very beginning of Drew's tenure. It'll be interesting to see how that translates if they take advantage of the extra time for that purpose.

This is my guess.  Kind of like the 25th Anniversary Special, though that was only an hour so they just did three pricing games with old clips mixed in.  This way they could do the full six pricing games and still have lots of time for old clips and I'm guessing a Bob appearance.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: bigdodgeram on August 17, 2021, 06:40:34 PM
I'll bite.

Two hours is too long. I know the show has its 50th anniversary, but it has enough trouble keeping viewers throughout one hour.

sorry no.

and probably no one else agrees with you
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on August 17, 2021, 06:46:43 PM
Bob's not appearing. People have to let that fantasy go.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on August 17, 2021, 06:48:18 PM
I'll agree that I really don't want to see one full-length episode stretched into double the length.

This is also primetime, right? So that means about an extra five minutes per hour, so we're looking at 80-85 minutes of the show? That's really long.

Still excited that they're doing this, and I know this is going to be a one-off event anyways, so I'm just going to enjoy it for what it is.

If Bob's appearing, it's a very quick (10-20s) prerecorded message to kick off the show. He's not going to Zoom in or walk through the Big Doors. Even then, I doubt it.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: 123123123 on August 17, 2021, 07:12:36 PM
2 hours could be a lot, but I'm gonna enjoy all 120 minutes simply because its something new and its for a great occasion.

Would it be possible for it to simply be a double feature, just get brand new contestants after the first hour? Not too sure on the timings, but I'm sure that would still allows for a plethora of clips while avoiding any "dead time"
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: EvilChameleon on August 17, 2021, 07:51:11 PM
I'd love to see the entrance of Bob/Drew on the first episode of each season at the start of this episode. There's a compilation on YouTube, but it is incomplete and low quality.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 17, 2021, 08:17:57 PM
I'd love to see the entrance of Bob/Drew on the first episode of each season at the start of this episode. There's a compilation on YouTube, but it is incomplete and low quality.

I still wish they woulda done a split screen of the two entrances for decades week few years back when they got to the 2000's. I don't understand why they didn't.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: thepriceis_J on August 17, 2021, 09:07:22 PM
I'll bite.

Two hours is too long. I know the show has its 50th anniversary, but it has enough trouble keeping viewers throughout one hour.

Well, I doubt it's going to be two hours with 12 pricing games and three SCSDs. My assumption is that it's going to be jam packed with clips and honestly, I'd rather them have time to show plenty of clips and interviews then to have to squeeze in as many as they can fit with the half hour format. So, I don't think I'm going to mind the hour long format with clips. It also means that unlike other retrospective specials, this one can actually feature the big wheel.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 17, 2021, 09:10:02 PM

Well, I doubt it's going to be two hours with 12 pricing games and three SCSDs. My assumption is that it's going to be jam packed with clips and honestly, I'd rather them have time to show plenty of clips and interviews then to have to squeeze in as many as they can fit with the half hour format. So, I don't think I'm going to mind the hour long format with clips. It also means that unlike other retrospective specials, this one can actually feature the big wheel.

You mean 4 SCSD's.....3 would not work lol. And I agree, plus again allows much more time for gameplay as well, in theory anyway. I wonder if Drew wanted it this way or not, given other specials (30th anniversary aside) did the half hour format.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: OneBidTris on August 17, 2021, 10:12:02 PM
I think it's possible we get two separate hour-long things; a one-hour retrospective on the show's 50 year legacy and then a separate hour where we play the actual show as we normally would in primetime. I don't think it'll be too long if they treated it as two one hour things and not one two hour event. I doubt we get Bob outside clips, but I don't think we need an appearance by him to cement this occasion.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 17, 2021, 10:30:24 PM
This would actually make the most sense.  I imagine they would do the one-hour retrospective first and the real one second.  There is plenty of context from a half-century of Price, but I think TPTB would be able to fit much of that into the premiere week in lieu of a two-hour show.  Really, they could throw in clips of past seasons throughout the entire season.

I personally have no problem with people wishing Bob would make a cameo, but like several, it's a no-go.  I agree he doesn't need to show up to validate anything.  A mention is more than enough.  At least most people know what he's done and meant to the show
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: 3StrikesFan on August 17, 2021, 10:56:23 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSsuALUsGbR/

Models are doing microphone handoffs againÖ.per Rachelís Instagram
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Grammar-Nazi on August 17, 2021, 10:57:55 PM
I'm sorry, I think you're misinterpreting what "live" means. You can currently and have for a while stream your local CBS station and other CBS services via the CBS app and Paramount+. Price episodes have been available on these platforms as well. I see nothing changing. That is standard verbiage in any show press release these days.

One of the Prime Time Specials this season was never made available on Paramount+. It was the one with Tiffany Haddish.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 17, 2021, 11:11:55 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSsuALUsGbR/

Models are doing microphone handoffs againÖ.per Rachelís Instagram

Notice the gold doors behind her too.....permanent color change? I like it.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: PriceFan07 on August 18, 2021, 02:39:55 AM
Those appear to be the same doors we've had for several seasons now (albeit with a new logo that has yet to be revealed). It's possible they have a fresh coat of paint but the color doesn't look any different to me.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 18, 2021, 07:02:27 AM
Those appear to be the same doors we've had for several seasons now (albeit with a new logo that has yet to be revealed). It's possible they have a fresh coat of paint but the color doesn't look any different to me.

I take it back, didn't realize it, mea culpa on my part.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Torgo on August 18, 2021, 08:05:23 AM
sorry no.

and probably no one else agrees with you
Good talk.

I know two hours straight of Price works for a lot of diehard fans that spend hours upon hours marathoning old episodes, but as someone that doesn't like binge watching anything, I just feel like the special will have so much padding and celebrate 50 years with a lot of the same stuff we've seen time and time again. Remember, the special has to appeal to a general audience, not just the 35 active GR users.

I don't want there to not be a special, but I probably won't enjoy it that much.

But go ahead and stay salty.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Vgmastr on August 18, 2021, 09:17:51 AM
One benefit to doing a two hour show with clips/interviews mixed between the segments vs a one hour show and a one hour retrospective is you can basically do any lineup of games you want without needing to worry about timing.  Imagine a lineup of Golden Road/Plinko/Any Number/Punch-a-Bunch/Three Strikes/Cliff Hangers.  You could essentially do an hour and fifteen minute show with 45 minutes of retrospective minus commercials.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: mrbrown2195 on August 18, 2021, 03:08:16 PM
I'm guessing a Bob appearance.

Bob is almost 98 years old and has been home bound for several years now. The few times he has been out in public, he's looked, quite frankly, terrible. I doubt we'll even get a video clip shot from his living room, much less a physical appearance on the show.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 18, 2021, 03:17:30 PM
Bob is almost 98 years old and has been home bound for several years now. The few times he has been out in public, he's looked, quite frankly, terrible. I doubt we'll even get a video clip shot from his living room, much less a physical appearance on the show.

The most I'd expect given the times, is a video clip shot, I can't imagine anything more than that.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on August 18, 2021, 03:47:51 PM
Bob is almost 98 years old and has been home bound for several years now. The few times he has been out in public, he's looked, quite frankly, terrible. I doubt we'll even get a video clip shot from his living room, much less a physical appearance on the show.

I don't know WHY people are almost expecting anything new from Bob. I really don't get it.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: bigblue999 on August 18, 2021, 03:52:22 PM
https://twitter.com/PriceIsRight/status/1427948639817637890
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: imhomerjay on August 18, 2021, 03:54:16 PM
I don't know WHY people are almost expecting anything new from Bob. I really don't get it.
It is a strange thing to hold on to.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: gamesurf on August 18, 2021, 04:34:23 PM
Devilís advocate: He was making public appearances just a few short years ago (only six years! thatís like nothing, right? /s), he will be heavily featured in clips from the showís history, heís still the host most associated with the show for people over the age of 30, he clearly loves being associated with the show, and he has a huge ego.

I agree that there is zero chance he makes any sort of studio visit or interactive zoom call with Drew or anything where Bobís appearance cannot be carefully controlled. But a brief pretaped segment doesnít seem to be out of the question. If youíre going to choose to make a final public appearance on the show, the 50th anniversary is a pretty darn good reason.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 18, 2021, 04:48:53 PM
That quote / Twitter post is plenty enough.  Plus, as mentioned, clips of him in action (and there are more than a ton) more than pays tribute to Mr. Barker.  Basically what likely will happen early in 2025 or whenever the real 10,000th show occurs
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on August 18, 2021, 05:13:25 PM
Why are we arguing over this... 🙄

If the man wants to say a few words ó voiceover or actually on camera ó then he will certainly do so.  If the man doesnít feel up to it or doesnít believe itís necessary to go through the trouble when heís already very much going to be featured heavily in clips, etc., then he wonít appear.  It really is that simple.

Only on this site do arguments commence over a 97-year-old man. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Torgo on August 19, 2021, 01:16:39 PM
Only on this site do arguments commence over a 97-year-old man. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣
Attend more family reunions.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on August 19, 2021, 03:52:46 PM
Attend more family reunions.

Precisely why I donít. 🥴
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: COINBOYNYC on August 19, 2021, 04:35:43 PM
I don't know WHY people are almost expecting anything new from Bob. I really don't get it.

Because Bob is still the first person people associate with The Price Is Right, and he's still alive.

However...

The few times he has been out in public, he's looked, quite frankly, terrible.

I've seen photos of him in a wheelchair, and I'd have to agree.  Even so, I'm still on the side of those who would like to see Bob make a videotaped appearance, and even though I'd be disappointed if he didn't, I'd certainly understand why.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: pricefan18 on August 20, 2021, 04:33:51 PM
Because Bob is still the first person people associate with The Price Is Right, and he's still alive.

However...

I've seen photos of him in a wheelchair, and I'd have to agree.  Even so, I'm still on the side of those who would like to see Bob make a videotaped appearance, and even though I'd be disappointed if he didn't, I'd certainly understand why.

Just the fact he got to make a statement, is a lot I think. I could even see almost some written statement said on the air ala Mark Goodson in Season 17, but might be odd now.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JhayPrice on September 29, 2021, 09:39:37 PM
Sorry for bumping, but if it would be alright I'd just like to add that Price unveiled a teaser of the upcoming 50th AS:

The clips featured the fun moments and bloopers, especially the Holly's appliance bottle.

I would like to assume that as Price mentioned on their FB post that there would be surprise appearances, some of the original models may show up onstage or through a videotaped message.

Another longer clip on Price's channel also featured a $250,000 Plinko and clips of Johnny O and Rod. I hope also Rich and other subs get a shout-out, but it may be just me. :)

Tune in this Thursday at 9|8c for the spectacular celebration of Price's 50 years!
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Thatgameshowguy on September 29, 2021, 10:47:16 PM
I would like to assume that as Price mentioned on their FB post that there would be surprise appearances, some of the original models may show up onstage or through a videotaped message.

The surprise appearances are from CBS celebrities who have already appeared on special TPiR@Night programs or during celebrity week. Don't get your hopes up.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JhayPrice on September 29, 2021, 11:27:50 PM
The surprise appearances are from CBS celebrities who have already appeared on special TPiR@Night programs or during celebrity week. Don't get your hopes up.
I understand man... :) But I'd bet that if the show's running time is around 38-39 minutes for a normal episode, there would be constant lookbacks and interviews in-between segments of around 10 minutes? We'll just know when it happens.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: imhomerjay on September 30, 2021, 08:05:20 AM
If Iím at CBS or Fremantle and having the conversations around putting this type of show together, Iím absolutely looking to get current celebs, with an emphasis on CBS talent. Devoting limited airtime, even in an expanded format, to previous era models isnít where Iím putting my efforts.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: TPIRighteous on September 30, 2021, 10:10:52 AM
When the 25th Anniversary Special aired, I was a little shy of 5 years old. My parents taped it, and I watched it over and over again until the VHS wore out. I had watched TPIR before that, but that was my introduction to the show's history. I had never seen Bob Barker with dark hair, I had no idea who Johnny Olson was, and I hadn't seen Yolanda or Pauline or Edie.

That hour of television meant about as much to me as anything that's ever hit the airwaves. Now I'm about to turn 30, and I'm very excited to watch this tonight. I think seeing the moments of the last 25 years intermixed with the 25 before that is really going to put my lifelong relationship with this show into perspective.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 30, 2021, 01:12:05 PM
When the 25th Anniversary Special aired, I was a little shy of 5 years old. My parents taped it, and I watched it over and over again until the VHS wore out. I had watched TPIR before that, but that was my introduction to the show's history. I had never seen Bob Barker with dark hair, I had no idea who Johnny Olson was, and I hadn't seen Yolanda or Pauline or Edie.

That hour of television meant about as much to me as anything that's ever hit the airwaves. Now I'm about to turn 30, and I'm very excited to watch this tonight. I think seeing the moments of the last 25 years intermixed with the 25 before that is really going to put my lifelong relationship with this show into perspective.

If Iím at CBS or Fremantle and having the conversations around putting this type of show together, Iím absolutely looking to get current celebs, with an emphasis on CBS talent. Devoting limited airtime, even in an expanded format, to previous era models isnít where Iím putting my efforts.


I agree, but to a certain extent.  I'll elaborate within my reply to TPIRighteous.  In terms of getting people from the past, as in past eras of TPIR, it really isn't necessary.  On the other hand, having celebrities and stars from other CBS programming, and even stuff from ABC, NBC, FOX, ESPN, etc is unnecessary.  At the very least, it's off topic from what tonight's special is all about.  It should be about TPIR & its history.  The show is about the fans, the real stars of the show.  The celebrities can pimp whatever some other time.

As a fan of the show, I'm looking forward to stuff related to TPIR.  How does a celebrity help promote TPIR?  It really doesn't.  Instead, time is lost in favor of someone from another show getting the chance to promote their own show on someone else's time.  That being said, it's still a business, and not surprising at all.  IMO, I don't see the connection, a meaningful connection between a CBS star and TPIR, other than the fact that it's the same network.  Still, Fremantle would be a tad bit foolish to pass on getting their stars from other gameshows, and CBS would be a tad bit foolish to pass on getting their starts from other shows.


That 25th Anniversary Special was a special hour to me as well.  While I have seen everything before that point prior to that point, it was still great to see all the stuff from the past.  It was a nice celebration.  I might not have ranked it with Season 15 or Season 20 and how those years were honored, but it was a time when YouTube wasn't the place to go for past content whenever you felt like it.

If I had to guess, there will not be any members of the past showing up.  Unlike in 1996, there may be optimism toward seeing them in a clip or two, but that's about it.  I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong, but the fact is most of the casual, current audience would not know who the past stars are or were
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: BillyGr on September 30, 2021, 02:51:57 PM
There is one way to connect both sections.

Freemantle does produce the current To Tell The Truth, and as I remember they had within the last year or so one show where the panel had to figure out which person was a former TPIR model...  So that might be a person to have featured, with both clips from TPIR years ago and her more recent appearance on TTTT.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on September 30, 2021, 03:30:44 PM
Weíre getting acknowledgments of former show staff, and Iíll be thrilled even if itís just left at that.  My jaw about hit the floor when I saw Holly and Rod each featured in one of the promos ó especially the former.  Itís significantly more likely Bob Barker himself would be wheeled out onto the stage than Holly, or any former model, making a live appearance, but the fact thereís going to be at least one prominent clip of her and likely some sort of verbal acknowledgment on air for the first time in nearly three decades is itself incredible.  Even 15 seasons removed from the Barker era, that idea still seemed unrealistic to me.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: MrZone on September 30, 2021, 11:02:41 PM
It deliveredÖ.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: shell_game on October 01, 2021, 07:56:26 AM
Sure I missed Bob and it would be great to see him, but I think it would be a shock to everyone to see him at his current age and current condition even if he could/wanted to appear. It would have made me feel like I aged 40 years in 5 seconds to see that.

I can hear Norm MacDonald: "But it turned out that the 97-year-old and long-time host Bob Barker did not appear on the anniversary special." <turn to stare into camera, a la "or so the Germans would have you believe"> "Because he's ninety-seven years old." <long pause and stare>
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: LarryC on October 01, 2021, 09:33:17 AM
It deliveredÖ.
Yes, it sure did.  I was delighted (and kind of surprised) that they showed clips with not just Janice, but Holly and Dian as well. 

Really, the only "let's try to pretend this never happened" moment I saw (and it's minor) was when they showed the opening to the 1972 premiere episode, then cut to Connie winning the IUFB -- being careful not to show that the first prize ever offered was a fur coat. 

Nice to see all the current models on stage together, too.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: GobGlom on October 01, 2021, 09:59:25 AM
Truly an amazing show. They covered darn near everything they could and was extremely classy about it.
I thought bringing Vanna on as a model was the best tie-back they did.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JayC on October 01, 2021, 10:48:49 AM
It was an excellent episode and CBS gave Price the celebration it deserves. Making it two hours as opposed to one and either using a 3 game format or cramming everything in really worked well.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: BillyGr on October 02, 2021, 07:54:35 PM
Truly an amazing show. They covered darn near everything they could and was extremely classy about it.
I thought bringing Vanna on as a model was the best tie-back they did.

After seeing her on there, I was thinking how surprising it was that, amongst all the suggestions for bringing someone on how all of the group missed that one as an option!
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: theamazingracer on October 07, 2021, 01:51:51 PM
The only thing that was disappointing about this was that one video segment where they made a point of highlighting how the show's been running in other countries since 1973... and then exclusively stuck to HD clips from the last decade that forced them to use both the terrible Australian revival and the one-off Alan Carr special (which technically wasn't even this show?) for the UK version. It's not like they couldn't have used the borders they were using for the Barker clips to showcase Bruce Forsythe or Marco Antonio Regil or Ian Turpie, you know? Bizarre decision.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Combs on October 19, 2021, 02:49:51 AM
I think the primetime special was very well done and respectful of the show's 50 year history, particularly the segment dedicated to Bob and especially Drew's comments to Bob. The way he spoke, it felt solemn, like he was very thankful to Bob (for hosting for the first 35 years and for giving Drew a wonderful job to continue), but also regretful that Bob couldn't be there and likely, won't ever get the chance to make a return appearance. It was very honorable and respectful.

I'm also glad they finally allotted a two hour block for a primetime special. I had been thinking of this since the Barker era. (The 25th anniversary special, the 30th anniversary special, etc.) When you only allow for one hour, you can do one of two things. You can use the one hour format (3 games, showcase showdown #1, 3 more games, showcase showdown #2, and showcases) and allow for a minimum of clips or you can use the 30 minute format (3 games, showcases) and allow for a maximum of clips. The two hour block allows for the one hour format with lots of clips, so I'm glad someone finally figured that out. Bravo.

Some have suggested that the original Price Is Right with Bill Cullen should have been acknowledged, but I think the reason it wasn't is because this was a 50th anniversary special, meaning 1972 to 2022. The Cullen edition aired from 1956 to 1965.

Overall, a wonderful special, but I would have added two things.

1.) a mention of Mark Goodson and his contribution to the show. Maybe show some clips of the times he visited the show.

2.) acknowledge the half hour, syndicated, nighttime shows/hosts. Dennis James (1972-1977), Tom Kennedy (1985-1986), and Doug Davidson (1994-1995). This could have been in place of the segment they did with the different editions of TPIR around the world. They could have done a brief explanation, showed a few clips of Dennis, Tom, and Doug and maybe even had a visit from Doug, since Bob was unable to visit.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: PriceFan07 on October 19, 2021, 06:02:24 PM
I always get confused when people get up in arms about not mentioning the Cullen version of the show (or other iterations of the show for that matter). The network version of The Price is Right on CBS daytime is what's celebrating 50 years. I would've been somewhat annoyed to see them waste time talking about TNPiR '94 or Dennis James' version. I didn't particularly like the time spent on the the international versions. Clips of some of the most popular game debuts would've been cool to see.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Combs on October 20, 2021, 10:11:50 AM
I always get confused when people get up in arms about not mentioning the Cullen version of the show (or other iterations of the show for that matter). The network version of The Price is Right on CBS daytime is what's celebrating 50 years. I would've been somewhat annoyed to see them waste time talking about TNPiR '94 or Dennis James' version. I didn't particularly like the time spent on the the international versions. Clips of some of the most popular game debuts would've been cool to see.

Who's getting "up in arms"? I wasn't. While it's true that the CBS daytime show is what's celebrating 50 years, it's also true that the Dennis James/Bob Barker, Tom Kennedy, and Doug Davidson syndicated, half hour, nighttime shows are a part of the 50 year history of The Price Is Right. I would have omitted the segment on the international versions of TPIR and replaced it with a brief 2-3 minute segment on the James, Kennedy, and Davidson shows, simply because I think Dennis, Tom, and Doug deserve that respect. My opinion, of course, but I don't think they're a waste of time. Agree to disagree.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Casey on October 20, 2021, 10:58:57 AM
Who's getting "up in arms"? I wasn't. While it's true that the CBS daytime show is what's celebrating 50 years, it's also true that the Dennis James/Bob Barker, Tom Kennedy, and Doug Davidson syndicated, half hour, nighttime shows are a part of the 50 year history of The Price Is Right. I would have omitted the segment on the international versions of TPIR and replaced it with a brief 2-3 minute segment on the James, Kennedy, and Davidson shows, simply because I think Dennis, Tom, and Doug deserve that respect. My opinion, of course, but I don't think they're a waste of time. Agree to disagree.
I think the primary decision factor behind this is that only Bob Barker and Drew Carey have hosted the CBS version of the show, and that is what CBS was celebrating. 

(I know Dennis hosted a couple CBS episodes early on when Bob was unable to, but that's but a tiny blip on the timeline of the series on CBS.)
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: Combs on October 25, 2021, 12:25:16 AM
I think the primary decision factor behind this is that only Bob Barker and Drew Carey have hosted the CBS version of the show, and that is what CBS was celebrating. 

(I know Dennis hosted a couple CBS episodes early on when Bob was unable to, but that's but a tiny blip on the timeline of the series on CBS.)

Yes, and while I never expected the syndicated nighttime shows/hosts to be acknowledged, it sure would have been nice if they had.

When the show expanded to one hour in 1975, was there a reason they waited two months into season 4 to make the change? The first permanent one hour show aired November 3, 1975. It seems like they would have wanted to have the first one hour show to kick off the season 4 premiere in early September 1975.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: vnisanian2001 on October 25, 2021, 01:50:22 AM
My thought it was to start off November Sweeps.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: imhomerjay on October 25, 2021, 04:47:00 AM
Price isnít ďpre-empt your regular primetime seriesĒ sweeps programming. Itís a flexible filler on the schedule and gives the regular rotation some rest. And thereís nothing at all wrong with that.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: JT on October 25, 2021, 08:03:53 AM
When the show expanded to one hour in 1975, was there a reason they waited two months into season 4 to make the change? The first permanent one hour show aired November 3, 1975. It seems like they would have wanted to have the first one hour show to kick off the season 4 premiere in early September 1975.
I believe the week of hour long shows in Sept was a test to see if an hour long game show could work.  Assuming the ratings were decent and they got the green light from CBS, they probably starting taping the regular hour long shows late Sept to debut Nov 75.

EDITED by Steve to fix quoting.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: blozier2006 on October 25, 2021, 08:11:30 AM
When the show expanded to one hour in 1975, was there a reason they waited two months into season 4 to make the change? The first permanent one hour show aired November 3, 1975. It seems like they would have wanted to have the first one hour show to kick off the season 4 premiere in early September 1975.

I believe the week of hour long shows in Sept was a test to see if an hour long game show could work.  Assuming the ratings were decent and they got the green light from CBS, they probably starting taping the regular hour long shows late Sept to debut Nov 75.
Actually, the first permanent hour show didn't tape until October 20, 1975. And as far as I'm aware, October 12 was the day the last four half-hour shows were taped, so the decision to expand full time may not have been made until mid-October..
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: SteveGavazzi on October 25, 2021, 02:18:37 PM
Actually, the first permanent hour show didn't tape until October 20, 1975. And as far as I'm aware, October 12 was the day the last four half-hour shows were taped, so the decision to expand full time may not have been made until mid-October..

I don't know that it would have happened that late -- we know they had celebrity guests on to promote the expansion on the last week of half-hour shows.
Title: Re: 2 Hour Prime Time Special to air 9/30, 9-11PM EDT/PDT
Post by: PriceFan07 on October 26, 2021, 11:59:20 PM
Who's getting "up in arms"? I wasn't.

Sorry, I should have stated that I wasn't meaning to say you were getting up in arms specifically. It was more so your original post that just made me think of other things I'd seen online about the topic.