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Title: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Marc on May 31, 2006, 10:09:38 PM
I'm not sure if Joe wishes to do a recap for tonight's GSM -- Joe, feel free to edit this inital post.  Otherwise, let the discussion start!  I'll be back tomorrow to post my thoughts.

Marc


(Thanks, Marc. I had a meeting to attend to tonight, but I indicated elsewhere I'd do a recap so here goes...)


GAME$HOW MARATHON - LEG 1: THE PRICE IS RIGHT

Hosted by Ricki Lake

Participants (in order of calldown):
PAIGE DAVIS ("Trading Spaces")
KATHY NAJIMY ("King Of The Hill")
TIM MEADOWS ("Saturday Night Live")
LANCE BASS ('NSYNC)
BRANDE RODERICK ("Baywatch")
LESLIE NIELSEN ("Police Squad", "Airplane")

Announcer/Narrator: Rich Fields

Models for the night: Lanisha Cole, Rachel Reynolds and Shane Stirling
(Look closely at the credits! Finally, some well-earned respect around the office!)


First, the overall rules: Tonight's leg, TPiR, will consist of three pricing games,
followed by the Showdown, and then the Showcases. The Showcase winner will advance to
the G$M semifinals, and their winnings will be awarded to a home viewer who correctly
answered a TPiR-related trivia question (see cbs.com). The remaining five return
tomorrow for the second leg. Because there are some rule modifications those will be
disclosed where applicable.

The set itself is a slightly smaller version of the big doors and turntable area.
"Contestants' Row" is actually a four-person podium with the actual bid displays.
Audience seating is stadium-style.

A number of celebrities are "in the audience" to give the impression that they may be
called to play (though the actual roster has been long known). Among them: Betty
White, George Foreman, Kathy Griffin, Bruce Vilanch, and Adam Carrolla - some of which
will be around for Match Game. (Actually, I believe this part of things was added in
post)

The show opens with a montage of clips from Price's past, a goodly lot from the Janice
and Anitra era, a juicy bit of Cullen, a few fallers at the wheel, and the usual
gotta-haves: tube top lady, fainting lady, chasing lady AND, o' course, Vanna.
Then, Rich launches into the opening calldown (with a reference to "CBS
Television City", yet) and out comes Ricki as the G$M set peels away to reveal
the recreation of the Price doors. From there, a little chat with the First
Four and it's on to the first Item of the night. We pick things up there...


First Four lineup: left to right
Handoff: Lanisha



1  Funtek USA Spaceball Trampoline Game (R&S)
DAVIS 800   NAJIMY 1500   MEADOWS 1100   BASS 1201   ($2695)  

Kathy Najimy, playing for Girls' Best Friend, plays HOLE IN ONE for a Cadillac XLR
(L)($77,295)

(2) (Life Savers) Roll Candy (single)    $ .85
(5) (Santa Fe) Salsa                      2.69
(6) (Simple Green) All Purpose Cleaner    5.39
(1) (Tide) Detergent                     >8.99<
(4) Theragesic Gel                        3.99
(3) Citracal Supplement                  

Kathy's Putt from Line 4: pushed right.   LOSS


Note that ths was "old school" Hole In One as Kathy was not given a
second putt. Further, Ricki didn't take the customary "Inspiration Putt."

BTW: Whose idea was it to dress Rachel and Shane as school girls? Hideous.
I imagine they were both glad to get out of those outfits pronto.


Meanwhile, a running gag: Brande is called on down, and Adam looks a
bit p-d-o-d.


2  Ridgeway Baker Street Grandfather Clock (R)
+Davis *4000   RODERICK 3000   +Meadows 3500   +Bass 3800   ($4725)

Paige Davis, playing for Donate Life, prepare thyself. IT'S $100,000 PL!NKO!!!

Free Chip                                   (6)   100L  
(Pro Pots) Slow Cooker     7/2   2  $12  *  (5)   500R
(Presto) Salad Shooter     2/6   2   46
250 pc Poker Chip Set      3/0   0   50  *  (4)  1000R   Total
Dell DJ Diddy MP3 Player   5/9   9   99  *  (2)   500L   $2100   LOSS


Added incentive to win the last item: every member of the audience walks
away with one of those MP3 players, courtesy of the house. Paige "fainted"
when she heard that news.



Running Gag, part two: Leslie gets called, a "disgusted" Carolla bolts.
3  highbrowfurniture.com Bubble Chair (L)
NIELSEN 500   Roderick 2600   +Meadows 1500   +Bass 501   ($2795)

Brande Roderick, playing for the City of Hope, plays RACE GAME

                               1st    2nd    3rd    Prices
Roland HPI7 Digital Piano     6495   2999  >6495<      WIN
Broyhill Sofa                 2999   6495   2999    ($1125)
Cotton Candy Cart             1125   1408  >1408<      WIN
Bowflex TC5300 Treadclimber   1408   1125   1125    ( 2999)
                      RIGHT    [1]    [1]    [2]
                  TIME LEFT    :35    :10    :00      LOSS

They shot the game action with the steadicam, and it seems to work quite nicely.
Too bad it's not in the budget for real TPiR (or, maybe we're better off for it!). As
to the chair, what if they had hoisted the chair with Lanisha still in it?



SHOWDOWN

The Procedure: usual rules except the top score advances, the others go
into round 2 - unless two people tie with the top score. (Ricki originally
said "top two advance", which I thought would be the rule in the first place).

$ 2,695   Najimy     35 + 20   .55   Through to Showcase Round
  7,056   Davis       5 +  5   .10
 10,698   Roderick   55 stay   .55   Through to Showcase Round


SHOWCASE ROUND
Brande has the honor. Winner advances to the G$M semifinals.

SC1-Roderick   WHAT'S IN AND WHAT'S OUT
BID   $25,000   O.W. Lee Patio Set (R)
PRICE    43,668   Bull Power Cube BBQ Island (S)
DIFF   -18,668   Jacuzzi J365 Hot Tub (L)
TOTAL   $54,366   Sea-Doo Sportster Boat (R)
      Trip to Sydney, Australia (6n; Last Minute Travel.com)(S)

SC2-Najimy   TIME MACHINE
BID   $81,000   Deutsch Wurlitzer One More Time CD Jukebox (S)
PRICE    62,160   (Namco) Ms. Pac Man/Galaga Video Arcade Game (L)
DIFF      OVER   1966 Ford Mustang (V8, AT, Mirror, 8-Track)(R)
      2006 Ford Mustang GT (Std., AT, Interior, AirBag, Stereo)


Tonight's Pricing Games (not that it really matters): 0 for 3
Total Winnings: $64,117

Leg 2 Tomorrow: - LET'S MAKE A DEAL with Brandi Sherwood as Carol Merrill
and Rich Fields as Jay Stewart. From here results will be posted to "Out In Left Field".


Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Alfonzo on May 31, 2006, 10:37:32 PM
It's official: Celebrity TPiR STINKS!!!!!!

The pacing of the show was wayyyy to slow! Too much yak, yak, yak and silly celebrity banter for my taste. Some of the celebs looked bored and uninterested, and their enthusiasm seemed fake. Didn't help that I didn't even know who some of those "celebrities" were (Who the heck was Brande, anyways?!)!

Ricki didn't do too shabby as a host, though.

What I DID like were the use of some old school camera angles (The scroll of the price tags in Race Game and the classic contestant shot on the Big Wheel) and the use of some different music cues in some of the pricing games.

One quick question: Why only one put in Hole in One?

Sorry if I sound overly-negative, but I'm just saying how I feel. I'm sure the other posters will have more positive thoughts on the show. Personally, I didn't care too much for it, but I hope the other specials are better.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Jordanar18 on May 31, 2006, 10:41:48 PM
I didn't have very high expectations for this, so I wasn't disappointed.  I didn't really enjoy the show at all.  The only thing I did enjoy though was the intro, when they showed a lot of classic TPiR clips. :-)

Some very weird things happened tonight that would never happen on the daytime show:

- Only one Hole in One putt
- Vintage car being offered
- XLR in a game in which the price doesn't matter
- $6495 prize in Race Game (especially when the other prizes are so much less expensive)
- $99 SP in Plinko (possible but not likely)

Anyone notice that Rich was much louder than usual?
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: heelsrule1988 on May 31, 2006, 10:45:21 PM
Wasn't really that spectacular to me, to be honest. Maybe it's because I'm used to TPIR the way we know and love it, so it disappointed me to see it in a much different way.

I don't know why they didn't use the "...or two" part of Hole In One; it's not like they didn't have enough time.

The shots of the Big Wheel were kind of annoying. When the wheel's spinning, I want a still shot of it, so I can have an idea of where it'll land.

About the showcase... HOLY COW. Talk about impossible. I can't wait to see how you guys did with those. My bids were way off... $36,200 on Brande's showcase, and $44,400 on Kathy's.

I must say, though- the highlight of the show for me was seeing Shane, Rachel, and Lanisha as hot as ever. Wow. Those Britney Spears outfits (as Lance Bass put it) were awesome, and when I saw those two-piece swimsuits, man. Too bad they don't do that on the daytime show.

So, to sum it all up, I think the other shows will actually be more fun to watch than tonight's. We're hardcore TPIR fans, so we're used to it the normal way. If it's not, it makes it weird.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: pricefan18 on May 31, 2006, 10:49:12 PM
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Alfonzo wrote:


On quick question: Why only one put in Hole in One?



Per Invision:
Here's the screwed up part...SHE DID GET A SECOND PUTT. I was present at the taping for this, and I distinctly remember seeing Lake walk over to the sign, and (as the audience yelled "or TWO!"), pushed the magic button, and gave Kathy her second shot, which she missed.

You know what that means? It means they EDITED OUT THE SECOND SHOT.


As for my thoughts on it, I was dissapointed with it. I liked the clips montage but the rest I didn't care for so much. Why the break before Hole in One too? That was really awkward, also no inspiration putt before the game either.

I hated the whole thing in Plinko too. I thought it was stupid and overly cheesy.

And why even have a showcase showdown with just 3 games? That made no sense at all. If they were gonna do just 3, don't do a showdown at all, just have the top 2 players in the showcases like the old version did.

As far as Ricki goes, she was ok. She seemed more of a contestant then a host at times though.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: heelsrule1988 on May 31, 2006, 10:51:46 PM
They edited that out?! Wow... that's lame. Really lame. Like I said, they had enough time for it.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Alfonzo on May 31, 2006, 10:54:26 PM
Very lame. I would have rather them edited out more of that blasted chatter than that second putt!
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Mr. Matté on May 31, 2006, 10:56:38 PM
Eh... wasn't too thrilled with what came about, but certainly a not-too-bad way of spending an hour in front of the TV.

I wasn't expecting Ricki to be Barker-like, but she seemed "too loud."  Perhaps if she tones it down a bit for the next 6 shows, I'll have a change of opinion.

There seemed to be a lot of editing, similar to DOND in its first week of shows.  Chopping up sentences, even Rich's parts were heavy on the edits.  Speaking of editing, a poster on the Invision boards, who happened to be in the audience for the show, said that there was a second putt in Hole in One, but she still missed.  Also mentioned was that a Plinko chip got stuck but that was edited as well.

The way the rules for the Showdown was pretty confusing.  I thought I heard that there would be a spin-off if the last girl (can't remember her name) beat both Paige and the first spinner.  Also, what would have happened if two contestants had gone over?


There were some things I liked; for example, the 5-minute tribute to Price mentioning Bill Cullen's version, and the current version; they brought back the Contestant Arrow for the Showdown (Yay!  :-) ), and of course the Beauties!  8-)

Had Price not have been on the air at the time this was made, it would probably seem a lot better.  The only reason me and others didn't like it so much is because we're still seeing the "good" version of the show every day.  The other shows, however, will be more enjoyable because those shows haven't been on the air (save for GSN reruns) in such a long time.

My rating out of 10: 7.1-ish.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: COINBOYNYC on May 31, 2006, 11:04:41 PM
I thought the show was terrible.  I'm not particularly a fan of "Icky" Ricki Lake, and I agree there was too much celebrity banter.  Leslie Nielsen seemed particularly out of it, and Kathy Najimi didn't appear to know what she was doing half the time.  (An $81,000 bid on the Showcase?)

I'm not usually home that early, but one of the reasons I wanted to make it my business to be home in time to see this was because I was curious to see how a non-Barker Price Is Right would be.  It's been two hours since the show aired, but I haven't formulated a definitive opinion yet; I'm sure my aforementioned dislike of Icky Ricki is a factor.

I did appreciate her showing respect to Bob by including his "spay and neuter" line at the end.

But I have to say that "Gameshow Marathon" will not be appointment viewing for me.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: TheBigAK on May 31, 2006, 11:04:43 PM
Did you see Adam Corolla stand up after the third contestant came on down.  My thoughts exactly.  

This was just not very good.

Now I thought Paige was truly excited to spin the big wheel.

Ricky looked excited to host, but I thought she tried too hard.  It will be interesting to see how she does the other shows.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: bhall96992 on May 31, 2006, 11:06:20 PM
I, too, thought it was extremely slow. If they wanted to, they could have fit an entire show in, I felt. They could have used the quick games like Double Prices, Freeze Frame, Bonus Game, and Check Game.
Hole in One-It felt very odd to see only one putt. Was it just me or did they miss the last prize on that one?
Plinko-Fully expected it, although I'm not a big fan of it. I was suprised to see the 100k.
Race Game-$6495. What's up with that? I did not like seeing this game.
I did like putting the 66 Mustang in there, though. Fully restored, it can be worth a good amount.
One last thing, Ricki was ok. The hardcore gameshow fans like us will nitpick and find faults with her on all these games, I think. I also liked the tribute to Bob with the spayed and nuetered bit. It felt odd having her do it, but it only felt right having it there, because he's done it so long.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Jordan7 on May 31, 2006, 11:07:54 PM
It was alright. I mean Ricki didn't do that bad. I missed Hole in One, and turned on the TV right when Rich was describing the first small prize in Plinko. I liked how they bumped the $10,000 slot up to $20,000. Then Race Game was quite a surprise. $6495, like that will ever be used again in Race Game. I can't believe Brande put $6495 on the sofa too.

Then, during the showcase, it was funny that she asked if the trip to Australia was by boat. And as for the showcase showdown, I liked the high angle view. It was nice to see the split-view of the contestant and the wheel during the showcase showdown again, like they did in the old days. I'm looking forward to tomorrow night, and by what I could see, it appears that the lovely Brandi will be the model on Let's Make a Deal.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: rcbought on May 31, 2006, 11:10:29 PM
I think the problem was they were trying to fit a half hour worth of show into an hour of time.  I thought it was way to slow for my liking.  My brother nearly threw a fit when Ricki went to commercial after showing the car but before hole in one was played.

I thought race game was easy.  I would have mixed up the computer and table at first but then would have switched them first.

From the sounds of it. The winner of the first showcase showdown would have gone on for sure if there was a clear winner.  Then a spinoff between the two losers.  

One last comment.  a 66 mustang?  now that is a FR showcase
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on May 31, 2006, 11:11:17 PM
Posts like some of theses are exactly why some of us don't post anymore. People take TPIR way too seriously and just look for all the nitcpicking.

It's not going to be perfect guys. It's a celebrity one-off special.

Frankly, I enjoyed it for what it was.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Alfonzo on May 31, 2006, 11:24:52 PM
That's not very fair, urbanpreppie. Just because an opinion isn't overly-positive doesn't mean it can't be expressed. At least I gave a reason why I didn't care for the show. Keep in mind, I watched with an open-mind. I was hoping this show might change my opinion of a celebrity PiR. It didn't.

We may all be PiR fans, but sometimes our opinions aren't always going to be sunshine and roses. You'll just have to deal with that.

However, I will say that I'm glad that you enjoyed the show.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: COINBOYNYC on May 31, 2006, 11:25:50 PM
Quote

shellgame69 wrote:
Only one put in hole in one.

As an earlier poster reported, they actually did have the "or two" portion, but they edited it out.

Who knows why... certainly "normal" loyal friends and true of the show ("normal" being someone who watches the show regularly, but isn't familiar with this website) know all about the "or two," and they would have wondered what happened as well.

If Najimi had gotten the hole in one on the second shot, would they have shown it as two shots, or do you think they would have edited it to make it seem as though she got it on her first try?
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: JasonA1 on May 31, 2006, 11:29:35 PM
I'm not going to run their job on TPIR up and down because frankly there was a lot more retro and good and accurate about it than I thought there would be going in.

That said, and I'm repeating myself on Invision here but - if this edition has anything to say for the series, than call me nonplussed. The atmosphere was awful, editing was bordering on  making me seasick, etc. I'm hoping that the simpler shows will not demand as much editing of Ricki and all the other components. I'm hoping too the audience on GSM are parallel to their retro counterparts - in other words, guessing higher or lower on "Card Sharks" doesn't take an edit's worth of time to decide and making said decision correctly doesn't prompt a World Cup win-like reaction from the crowd.

Has loads of potential - the fact they're doing an intro of the show within the show, etc - let's just hope the rest of the games are better paced and stuff.

-Jason
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: rodroddyfan on May 31, 2006, 11:30:18 PM
I didn't tape the show and based on what I have read, I did not miss much.  I wont tape any shows for gsm.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Joe_Mello on May 31, 2006, 11:35:23 PM
To quote my dad when Ricki threw to break: "Ryan Seacrest has really started something."

Here are some good things.

-Ricki was fine.  I'm okay that she fangirled a bit.  After all, that's the point of this series.

-Rich was fine.  I blame studio acoustics and maybe even the audio staff.

-Paige Davis was wonderful.  She seemed to be the only of the 6 to be fully immersed in the Price experience, with Kathy as a distant second.  Her reaction when the MP3 players were up for grabs was Priceless.  It's a shame that she only mustered $2100, which still isn't bad by Plinko standards.

-Kathy Najimy gets some credit for the grocery part of Hole in One.  She probably did as good, if not better than Jane Plinko and was one adjustment away from running the table.  I don't blame her for her Showcase bid.  None of the CSS players had a clue on the Showcase, either.

-The opening documontage was pure nerdgasm.

-I liked how the winning player's stuff was up for grabs.  I also liked the MP3 Player thing.  After all, why can't the studio audience join in on the fun?

Now for the bad.

-Why did I not expect an editfest?  It's primetime TV.  There has to be lots of edits, most of them bad.  Some of the edits made the show too confusing to follow.

-Baywatch lady is going to have to do A LOT to convince me that she's something other than window dressing.  She gets minor points for her out-of-the-box thinking on the bubble chair.

-The Showcases definitely needed Ritalin.  Badly.

-The Showcase Showdown format seemed okay at first, and then there was a tie.  Of course, if they did what my Dad recommended and have the top two spinners advance, this would all be moot.

So to summarize, the core players (Rich, Ricki, the games) were fine.  It was everything else that had issues.  Hopefully, things will be ironed out before too long.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Mallory16 on May 31, 2006, 11:36:58 PM
Well, this was interesting.  Not great, but interesting to watch as a one-time deal.  I enjoyed it most for the uniquness of it all, and less so as an actual episode of The Price is Right.  If anything, it proves that, even if the show is a bit rushed nowadays, it would be a lot worse for them to cut down to three games in an hour-long period.  I mean, some of the banter with Ricki was nice, but there was just that's too much of it.

And how was Ricki?  Decent.  A bit more hyper than Bob, but then, I guess having celebrities for contestants will turn that up, but I can't say Ricki did too bad a job.  Except for her explanation of Race Game's rules, which confused me.  From this one show, I can't say I'd want her to take over for Bob anytime.

The showcase showdown was stupidly done.  I mean, if they were going to use the big wheel, wouldn't it have been a lot simpler to just have the two highest scorers get into the showcase, instead of the whole "the two without the highest score will have a spinoff, unless there's a tie for the highest score" thing?

Then again... showcase showdown arrow!  Yay!  Daytime show, you should ask Game Show Marathon if you could borrow that ;-)!

Putting a commercial break between the prize for Hole in One and the start of Hole in One itself was really bad.

As a fan of Life Savers, I have never in my life seen them for over 80¢, even at expensive convenience stores.  Where'd they manage to find that 85¢ roll :-P?

The 1964 Mustang is probably the most freakin' random prize ever offered in a showcase.  From the price, I guess it's around $30,000, but I really had no clue how much it might've been!  Turns out I underbid by quite a bit.

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pricefan18 shocked everyone with:  It means they EDITED OUT THE SECOND SHOT [in Hole in One].

...

You're kidding.  With all the extra unimportant talking throughout the entire show, they had the nerve to edit the gameplay itself?!  Even though there was absolutely no reason to?!?!  ARGH!!!

I mean, come on!  Even a lot of casual fans will know something's wrong with that, since a lot of casual fans actually know that you're supposed to get two putts in that game!

And now, I have to wonder if Ricki Lake actually did do an inspiration putt, but if that was edited too.  Ricki really should have done an inspiration putt... they could've even talked during that.

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TheBigAK wrote:  Did you see Adam Corolla stand up after the third contestant came on down.

Yes.  I can't believe he did that, but then, he looked bored during the second calldown as well.  I can't believe they'd actually deliberately get that on camera.

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urbanpreppie0004 said:  Posts like some of theses are exactly why some of us don't post anymore. People take TPIR way too seriously and just look for all the nitcpicking.

Nitpicking?!  I'm sorry, but editing out the second putt in Hole in One is something big!  If my little sister, who rarely watches The Price is Right, complains about it, there's something wrong!

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heelsrule1988 didn't write:  drooling over any contestants.

You're kidding me!  Paige Davis!  Hello?  Paige Davis :-P!
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: LudwigMackdaddy on May 31, 2006, 11:41:03 PM
I enjoyed it..in CONTEXT. I knew the whole deal was going to be screwed with -- and I adored the tribute and clips at the beginning-- I thought Rikki did a good job -- the part I personally thought could have been edited out-- the coming on down part-- I mean it's not like it was a suprise !!! They knew who was going to be on the show of course-- so didn't this seem a tad silly?  I think Paige Davis genuinely tried to be into it -- poor Leslie N. seemed to be totally at a loss at what was going on -- all the " chatter"-- was so so too much -- in general-- here's what I think-- it wasn't good.. but it's probably the best we could have hoped for.   And I was SUPREMELY duped into thinking we are looking at MDS showcases-- I REALLY thought a mint 66 mustang was a fortune  and that speedboat wasn't a "known" RB-- ah well . heh :)  There's my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: JayC on May 31, 2006, 11:47:59 PM
I thought this show was good but could have been a lot better. The Price tribute video at the beginning of the show was excellent and I thought the opening and first four calldown was pretty cool.  Rich's announcing was excellent also.  The sign in the back of the audience is nice too.  Ricki Lake started out good but then got more annoying and fake as the show went on.  She also seemed just a little too happy and excited and interacted with the celebrities a little too much IMO. Also, except for Leslie, the celebrities really got on my nerves and were not like real people at all.  I didn't really like those Britney Spears school girl outfits the models wore either.  Playing Hole in One for an XLR was cool and a big surprise but Kathy came off as pretty stuck-up to me during the game and didn't putt that well.  She did nicely with the groceries though.  I thought the bids on the clock except for $3,000 were all going to be way too high, but man was I wrong, lol.  Paige Davis really bothered me during Plinko and Ricki and the audience made her worse.  The moment before Paige guessed the MP3 player also really struck me as irritating.  I couldn't wait for her to finally make her choice.  The camera angles used during the game were cool though, and in the end I felt bad that Paige didn't win more.  The camera angle and delivery of the bubble chair was pretty cool too although it was kind of weird to see the model have to turn it around to sit in it for some reason.  What a strange price spread in Race Game.  I'm very surprised Brande only won two prizes with that setup.  But she probably would have if she didn't walk and it was kind of funny that she was upset she had to make more guesses.  Having two people make it to the showcase from one showcase showdown actually didn't seem all that odd to me for some reason.  The showcases had some cool new prizes not seen on Price before, and that vintage Mustang was really out there but also pretty nice.  The time travel showcase was fun too.  I had no idea what to say for the prices of either one of them.
The showcase reveals were pretty anti-climatic and Brande barely seemed excited that she won.  I liked that Ricki Lake used Bob's closing line, but for some reason she didn't seem that comfortable saying it.

If the celebrity contestants become more down to earth and more like regular contestants on a game show and Ricki settles down, and gets more real in her role, I think we're in for better.  Right now I can't say I'm too impressed or too hopeful.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: sullim4 on May 31, 2006, 11:56:05 PM
First, the good.  The big wheel arrow shot was awesome to see back (are you listening Bart?), awesome enough that it was my favorite part of the show.  Game selection for this type of show was solid given that you knew they were going to play Plinko.  It was a nice change of pace to see a classic car being offered in the showcase.

Now, the bad.  What were Rikki and Rich on tonight?  It was a continual scream-fest.  Rich has really improved since he first took the job, which makes me wonder if the production team wanted him to act this way.  I know that a lot of you complain that his style is too "loud" but even tonight was a big departure from his usual "loud".

If it is indeed true that Hole-in-One was edited to remove the second putt, CBS and Fremantle should be ashamed of themselves.

Did anyone notice the blatent spoiler at the beginning, where the winner of the showcase (whose name I don't even remember...) was seen on stage in front of the showcase podiums?

I agree with most of the other negative sentiments here as well.

I think the lesson for today is to consider ourselves extremely lucky to have Bob, Roger, Kathy, and the entire staff working the show.  They're the best in the business at what they do.  Let's be honest here - if the show ever turns into that, will you regularly watch the show anymore?  I've got to say no.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: ILoveBonusGame on May 31, 2006, 11:56:25 PM
Wow. What actually happened tonight definitely blew me out of the water.

To begin with, the retro clips at the beginning were awesome. It was nice seeing that Janice was allowed in the clips, even though Kathleen, Dian, and Holly were not in the montage. Anitra wore a bikini on Price? I never knew that.

The intro was pretty nice. I got a chuckle with them showing the hopeful "guest" celebrities. The only gripe I had, though, is the fact that the big GSM doors were not released back before the TPIR big doors were opened. That's just my thought, though.

Edits. Need I say more?

Ricki did a great job, considering this was her first time hosting Price, or any game show for that matter.

Is there a reason why the 2003 cues were allowed to sneak into Studio 46? They were not needed at all. It was nice hearing my favorite Price cue being used for the bubble chair, though.

Someone had mentioned Rich as being extremely loud tonight. I've never heard him so loud before.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: actual_retail_tice on May 31, 2006, 11:57:16 PM
I didn't come in with real high expectations; it was a salute to Price, not a serious attempt to recreate the show. That said, I thought it was all right. I got a few laughs out of it (in a good way), which is more than most prime time TV can do for me. All in all, I liked some things and didn't like others.

THE BAD:

THE EDITS! It was like they took a regular Price episode and a bunch of audience shots to Dairy Queen and made a Video Blizzard! Why the shot of Adam Carolla getting up and leaving after his name didn't get called? Who thought that was funny? And couldn't somebody on the editing team try to make it sound like they didn't shoot all those audience reactions after the show was over?

"Can you guess what game you're going to play? We'll tell you......after this." WHOA!

Can somebody who understood how the showcase showdown worked call me? The Big Wheel is too iconic to leave out, but the way they handled it was a mess. Why did Paige get banished to the Cotton Candy Club before she was truly out of the running? Why did Brande get another spin when it was already established she was in the showcase?

A vintage Mustang? I came up with a half-dozen ways to interpret how you were supposed to bid on that before the showcase was even over.

Poor old Tim Meadows just didn't seem comfortable up there.


The "Eh."

Ricki was decent. She didn't make me cringe and she has a lot of heart, but she's too much "supportive pal" and not enough "emcee".

Watching this helped me figure out why I've never been wild about the idea of celebrity TPiR. When they pick a regular contestant, it's probably the most exciting thing to happen in that person's life, and the most TV exposure they'll ever get. That translates to good reactions. These celebrities have all done TV before and they all have nice things. No matter how much they may love TPiR, it's just not gonna be quite as emotional for them.

It looks like they tried to amend for that by having the celebs play for home viewers. But that's not  real exciting when you don't even know who that person is beforehand. At least mentioning a name and hometown, a la "Play Along" gives you someone to root for. As for the charities, do they win those prizes, or (hopefully) the cash equivalent?

THE GOOD:

The vintage clip reel was very cool, and I think a lot of the casual viewers could have picked up a lot of neat trivia from it. And that clip of the '70s scuba gear with the chroma key was wild. I'd love to see a screengrab of that.

The set! I thought it was awesome that they incorporated the floor with the red asterisks into contestants' row without there being an actual floor there. Ricki's entrance was also really neat.

The reveal of Hole in One with music was too cool. If it was my show and I could do anything I wanted, every game would get that.

They picked some good celebrities, as these things go. Leslie Nielsen cracked me up a couple of times. ("You bid WHAT?")

I'm still hoping to catch Match Game. They're not doing too bad of a job.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: dustind on June 01, 2006, 12:04:39 AM
I wasn't pretty comfortable with having celebrities play Price, and from what I read about them, I'm glad I didn't watch tonight.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Johnny on June 01, 2006, 12:08:02 AM
Okay, I'm going to say this. Listen close. I heard a story of someoine living in a "crummy" apartment. I gave them the lashing of their life and said, "You just watch some of those poor peopler on the streets wishing for that apartment you have."  Moral is, we got TPIR. Don't complsin so mucj. We as a society, middle class people are so spoiled it amazes me. Think of the other half who can't even WATCH TPiR because they don't have a darn TV!
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: heelsrule1988 on June 01, 2006, 12:08:03 AM
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Frank15 wrote:
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heelsrule1988 didn't write:  drooling over any contestants.

You're kidding me!  Paige Davis!  Hello?  Paige Davis :-P!

She's hot, but man, she annoys me. Brande was hot, too, but her dumbness was incredible. So yeah, I guess I should've given them smilies... but I didn't really like them.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Hades1981 on June 01, 2006, 12:09:22 AM
Overall I wasn't impressed with tonight's show. The pace was WAY too SLOOOOOW, gameplay quality was mediocre at best, and they could've gotten some better celebs for contestants. I'm sure I'm not the only one who was thinking that just for laughs, they should've had Vanna White be a contestant. ;) However, I LOVED the montage of clips at the opening of the show. It makes me miss TPIR not being on GSN even more.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: COINBOYNYC on June 01, 2006, 12:13:58 AM
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jjc92787 wrote:
I liked that Ricki Lake used Bob's closing line, but for some reason she didn't seem that comfortable saying it.

I didn't get get that sense.  If, in fact, she wasn't comfortable saying it, I'd guess it's because Bob sincerely believes in what he's saying, whereas Icky Ricki merely said it as a salute/shout-out to Bob.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Forrest20 on June 01, 2006, 12:17:12 AM
To me, if you take the show in its own entity, and not compare it to the daytime show, it was fairly good.  However, I know that is very hard to do, and to be fair, this didn't hold a candle to the daytime show.

I'll give grades to the different aspects, why not?

Ricki (B-/C+):  Considering the role she was having to fill, and also the fact that she had to learn seven different formats in a very limited time, she did a respectable job.  She knows how to interact with people well, which was a plus.  However, she did get a little flustered at times, and was a touch too loud and more like a contestant at times instead of the emcee.  Overall though, she did ok in a very tough role.

Celebrities (C-):  Paige and Leslie were the only two who made this grade somewhat respectable for me.  Kathy didn't really seem like she wanted to be there and Brande was just simply awful, painful to watch.  However, Paige seemed to really be enjoying herself which made her fun to watch and Leslie always knows when to crack a good joke.  They were the redeeming duo for me.

Gameplay (C):  The fact that Kathy's second putt was edited out is inexcusable.  Whoever did that is an idiot, plain and simple.  The showcase showdown was just plain weird too, did anybody get those rules the way Ricki described them?  I didn't.  Other than that, it was fine.

Overall presentation (C+):  Wow, this is where it gets strange.  The opening montage and tribute were incredibly awesome, I wish I had that part on tape.  At the same time, there were waaaay too many edits, and it really didn't flow well at times.  However, some of the camera angles and direction used were outstanding.  When all is said and done, the overall look and feel is a little above average at a C+.

Directing (A):  Kudos to R. Brian DiPirro!  I thought he did a great job since he had never directed anything like Price before.  Some of the camera angles and other things on the show really harkened back to the older days of great directing on Price.  For one thing, we got a full Race Game curtain shot!  When does that ever happen?  Also, the inital reveal to the small prizes on Plinko was old school!  That's how it used to be done!  Also, the return of the triangle shot to the Big Wheel was outstanding.  Great directing job!  Someone on the daytime show could take a good lesson here..

Overall grade (B-/C+):  There were some good moments and some bad moments.  But all in all, it wasn't terrible, but not great either.  Heh, and my grade kinda proves that the host makes or breaks the show.  Ricki's grade and the show's grade are the same.  After tonight, I think I'm intrigued enough to watch the rest of these shows.

However, this whole thing confirms a couple of things for me:

1.  We are so incredibly lucky to have the daytime version the way it is now.  Bob, Roger, Kathy, and everyone else associated with the daytime version runs a top-notch operation day in and day out.

2.  A celebrity edition of Price is just not a good idea.  Give me regular Joes and Joannes anyday!
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Alfonzo on June 01, 2006, 12:18:45 AM
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Johnny wrote:
Okay, I'm going to say this. Listen close. I heard a story of someoine living in a "crummy" apartment. I gave them the lashing of their life and said, "You just watch some of those poor peopler on the streets wishing for that apartment you have."  Moral is, we got TPIR. Don't complsin so mucj. We as a society, middle class people are so spoiled it amazes me. Think of the other half who can't even WATCH TPiR because they don't have a darn TV!


May I remind you that this is a DISCUSSION board! We come here to discuss the show. Sometimes people will have an opinion that you will not agree with. If someone wants to express a well-thought opinion as to why s/he liked or disliked a show, they are entitled to do so. You, in turn, have no right to tell people to stop complaining. After all, if we did this wouldn't be a DISCUSSION board any more, would it?
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: logikreader on June 01, 2006, 12:19:23 AM
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dustind wrote:
I wasn't pretty comfortable with having celebrities play Price, and from what I read about them, I'm glad I didn't watch tonight.


From what you read about them?  What do you mean by that?  Are you talking about what you read about them being on the show or just the celbrities in general?
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: catdogwheel on June 01, 2006, 12:26:24 AM
I'm really not quite sure what my opinion is of the show. It was fun to watch but it wasn't really what I was expecting. Don't get me wrong, there were a lot of positive things. I enjoyed the vintage clips, cool camera angles, looking at Rachel when she was modeling the 66 Mustang. I even loved the fact that they used some classic things such as the Big Wheel Contestant Arrow shot, and even showing the doors open when Rich was describing the small prizes in Plinko. And they even gave everyone in the audience an MP3 player!

There were a lot of negatives too. I mean it took two segments just to get the first pricing game done and over with. I'm not sure if you guys even noticed but they only created two big doors for the show, which means a lot more work for the crew. Ricki should've asked about the celebrity charities when they won an IUFB. That's pretty stupid that we didn't see Kathy Najimi's second putt. Plus I didn't like the fact that after the Showcase Showdown was won that they immediately ran over to the turntable to do the showcases. It was clear that part HAD to be edited because the wheel was in the way.

I would have to say this episode might've worked if TPiR was no longer on the air. It just wasn't the same. As I think about it I wonder if they were going after the half hour version and simply throwing in the big wheel.

Overall I think Ricki and the girls did a great job. It was a little weird that Rich had a couple different tones, plus he sounded liked it was clearly a voice over. Hopefully if CBS airs this show again and they do TPiR they'll have tuned it up a lot better and gave it the feel that the current show has. Hopefully the remaining shows will be better. I can't wait to see tomorrow's "Let's Make a Deal," and "Beat the Clock." I've never seen it because I'm toooooooooo young to remember Beat the Clock
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: logikreader on June 01, 2006, 12:26:26 AM
My thoughts on the show pretty much mirror everyone else's.  I'd cut Tim Meadows a break though... he was pretty funny at the upcoming episodes I attended in person... and Adam Carolla leaving when he didn't get called... oh man that was HILLARIOUS!!

Did anyone get to see the "Great Taste Lower Cholesterol Stadium" Commercial?  I can't believe how funny that was.  Don't laugh:  I thought that was the highlight of the night!  I love those Honey Nut Cheerios commercials.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Mallory16 on June 01, 2006, 12:29:56 AM
First of all, heels, how could anyone not like Paige Davis :-(?

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Johnny wrote:  Moral is, we got TPIR. Don't complain so much.

Second of all, this wasn't The Price is Right.  And just because we're fans of The Price is Right does not mean we should have to be blind to this show's imperfections, or rate every episode of The Price is Right a 10.  Just because we complain does not mean we don't like the show.  Well, maybe Hulk, but she's an exception.  But it generally means we felt the show could've been better, and it feels good to vent about things we didn't like about a show.  No show is flawless.  Every show has an occasional episode that's below average, and with over 6000 shows, certainly The Price is Right is going to have some.  Having to pretend the flaws don't exist is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: OldPrice75 on June 01, 2006, 12:32:18 AM
I must say I am utterly confused and amazed.

First, the good:

1) Retro clips!  Yippee!  :-D
2) Arrow graphic in SCSD.  Yippee again!! :-D  :-D Hopefully Bart reads this stuff.
3) The beauties :-D .
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ILOVEBONUSGAME wrote:

Anitra wore a bikini on Price? I never knew that.

Yeah, she did. :-)

4) I thought Studio 46 looked cool.


Now, the bad:

1) I don't think this format works.  There's just too much talking.  I've done some of my own TPiRs with this format, but it seemed to work better.  
2) I prefer having regular contestants.  Fortunately, I didn't know who these people were, anyway.  Plus they didn't seem to really try or care.
3) The commercial edits were odd.  Why did they have a break during Hole-in-One-or-Two-that-won't-be-shown-on-air, yet there was no commercial after the game?  :-?
4) Ricki was all right, but she got louder as the show continued.  She didn't need Bob's microphone.  I still wish Bob could've done all of it.
5) Rich sounded a bit off, but I think it may have been because the scripts were written more awkwardly than on the normal show.
6) I still have absolutely no clue how the SCSD worked.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: hardware2k on June 01, 2006, 12:32:57 AM
i second the motion on vanna white. she would have been a perfect celebrity for this show, and would have been more interesting for more of america to watch than tim meadows or brande roderick.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Joe_Mello on June 01, 2006, 12:42:13 AM
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Why did they have a break during Hole-in-One-or-Two-that-won't-be-shown-on-air, yet there was no commercial after the game?


I think there's an explanation for that.  The game was too big and would block the door with the car.  (There was no Door #3)  If you noticed, the "Race Game Curtain" was done when they returned from break.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: dustind on June 01, 2006, 12:44:19 AM
logikreader: I was merely going by what I read about them. I had no intention of watching the GSM Price. I am, however, looking forward to the other installments.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: gameshowlover072 on June 01, 2006, 01:01:22 AM
First, I have to say that all-in-all, it wasn't that bad.  My favorite cue is the MGHS Hour cue and it great to hear it twice in the show.  However, most of the other cues I really couldn't hear, and I really couldn't hear most of the sound effects.  They played the losing horns at the end of Hole in One, but I really couldn't hear them well, either.  

The opening was good, so was the montage.  That is too bad about the Hole in One edit. As soon as she missed, I expected Ricki to say.."It's Hole In One...OR Two!" I also enjoyed the arrow in the SCSD.

I also noticed that there was no door #3 after watching it again.  I am hoping that when they do Press Your Luck, they actually have the old whammy animations.  Also, I am hoping they do the spinning head box in Match Game in the beginning.  From the previews, it looks like they are doing the Card Sharks from the 80's, because the set they showed had a car in the background.

I am sure everything will get better with time.  Deal or No Deal had those Howie Mandel voice-overs and edits in the beginning, too.  I am looking forward to tomorrow!  I say I give tonight's episode a 7 out of 10.  And..how many of you knew the answer to the trivia question?
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Vexorg on June 01, 2006, 01:01:43 AM
Two words:  Amateur Hour.

Granted, Rikki did the best she could with the material, and they did a decent job on the set, but the contestants were just awful (with the possible exception of Paige.)  The whole thing came across as contrived, fake and poorly edited (and that was before seeing that the "or Two" putt got edited out.)  I'll probably watch some of the other GSM shows, but mostly to see how things get handled from a technical perspective.  I'm certainly not watching this stuff for the content...
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: SteveGavazzi on June 01, 2006, 01:05:19 AM
I thought the show was okay.  It wasn't awful, but it wasn't fantastic, either.  I can honestly say the celebs didn't bother me -- except Brande.  Brande was an annoying idiot.

There were certainly some things that bothered me; surprisingly, Ricki wasn't one of them.  There were times when I didn't think she was acting very professional, but it was clear that she was at least trying to do the show justice.

I thought it was weird that there was no second putt in Hole in One.  Now that I know there was one and it was edited out, I think it's even weirder.  Hole in One is one of the show's best-known games; that wasn't something that a casual viewer was going to miss.  I'm sure there are a whole lot of heads being scratched over that tonight.

I also thought it was very strange that there was no mention of the Double Showcase rule...I'm seriously wondering whether it wasn't in place or Ricki just forgot about it.  And honestly, I've seen it now, and I still don't completely understand what the heck was going on with the Big Wheel.

I didn't like the overhead shots of the Big Wheel spinning...but God, was it a nice surprise to actually see an arrow graphic!  I couldn't believe they did that!

And speaking of the directing, I was extremely impressed with Contestants' Row.  They somehow managed to shoot it during the bidding so that it looked exactly like it does in Studio 33.  Heck, the front of the table even look like the floor in front of the displays at certain points.

It seems like the producers wanted Rich to be majorly over the top for this show...and it seems like they didn't tell him this until after they taped it, because all the parts where he sounded that way seemed like they were edited in in post-production.  Not surprisingly, he sounded way better on the parts that were done live-to-tape.

One thing that really surprised me was that at least one of the clips they showed -- the Camaro from 1972 -- had Janice in it, and another one had Bob talking to Janice.  Does anyone know how those got in there?

And now, my only comment about the gameplay:  there is absolutely no way that Race Game should have been lost.  Brande played it horribly...I actually watched the daytime show after I watched this, so seeing Race Game played so well on there was very nice. (http://www.golden-road.net/grnoldx/modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif)

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bhall96992 wrote:

I, too, thought it was extremely slow. If they wanted to, they could have fit an entire show in, I felt. They could have used the quick games like Double Prices, Freeze Frame, Bonus Game, and Check Game.


Actually, Check Game and Bonus Game are both fairly long.

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urbanpreppie0004 wrote:

Posts like some of theses are exactly why some of us don't post anymore. People take TPIR way too seriously and just look for all the nitcpicking.

It's not going to be perfect guys. It's a celebrity one-off special.

Frankly, I enjoyed it for what it was.


I really don't know what to say to this.  I honestly can't understand why this surprises you, considering most of the people here are pretty darn obsessive about the show.  If you have a different opinion than everyone else, you're certainly welcome to add it.

And for what it's worth, my grandmother was disappointed by this thing, saying that it was too different from what she was used to.  My grandmother can't even remember on a consistent basis what Five Price Tags is.

(Honestly, I think I enjoyed it more than she did.)

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Johnny wrote:

Okay, I'm going to say this. Listen close. I heard a story of someoine living in a "crummy" apartment. I gave them the lashing of their life and said, "You just watch some of those poor peopler on the streets wishing for that apartment you have."  Moral is, we got TPIR. Don't complsin so mucj. We as a society, middle class people are so spoiled it amazes me. Think of the other half who can't even WATCH TPiR because they don't have a darn TV!


You know, I would love to tell you off for making such an asinine post, but I can't really think of anything to say that isn't offensive...and honestly, Alfonzo and Frank have already done it very well themselves.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: kingpin623 on June 01, 2006, 01:09:30 AM
I may write more later, but before I go to bed I have to say that this was like watching TPIR from a parallel universe!  Eerily the same, yet somehow different.  I haven't seen an episode of Price this strange since the Doug Davidson's TnPIR'94.

So Kathy Najimy's 2nd putt was edited out?  I thought they just neglected to give it to her.

All in all, enjoyable in its own way, but somehow lacked the edge and excitement of the daytime show.  Probably because you knew those celebrities weren't walking with the prizes themselves.

I always wondered what a celebrity version of TPIR would be like, that appearance by Larry King in the Grand Game a couple of years back notwithstanding.  I won't lose sleep over it anymore!   :-)

JBK
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: pricefan18 on June 01, 2006, 01:17:08 AM
I just thought of something I had neglected to mention before. Did anyone catch that they used the come on down music used in the intro for the other come on down's as well?
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Pushover72 on June 01, 2006, 01:21:04 AM
Unfortunately, the whole show looked to me a little like a elaborate college production.  Rikki Lake was terribly miscast as an emcee.  She was loud (you have a mike Rikki---you don't have to yell!) and a little too girlishly giggly (very unprofessional).

I love the models but the outfits they were in were sometimes rather unintentially comical.  (catholic school girl outfits on a trampoline and unflattering two piece bathing suits!)

Rich Fields was way off key.  He used a type of announcing that shows like Saturday Night Live would parody.  He yelled a little too much, emphasized some of the lesser prizes too much, and tried too hard to be noticed.  The beauty of TPIR's announcers through the years have been  that they can describe prizes without being annoying---just a friendly voice describing great prizes. Note to Rich:  I love you---now go back to your pleasant sounding daytime style!

I hate being so negative but even without the Bob's version to compare it to, I found the whole show annoying and badly directed.

This show only proves how great Bob's version is.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: jzion12345 on June 01, 2006, 01:25:01 AM
OK...I just watched this show on tape. I am so glad I taped it because it was quality TV. It was nothing like the daytime show at all. This is a format that allows for loads of celebrity chit chat with the required game play fit in the middle.

First off, when you get Ricki Lake to host a game show, you should know what you're gonna get. She screams. Point blank, she screams. That does not mean she's bad at what she does. She is very compitent at keeping a show going, and now has shown that she's good at keeping a gameshow going as well. But, you should get used to her screaming and being excited, because that's who she is. if you don't like that, then you should stop watching now, because she's not going to stop.

Secondly, I agree that the show was poorly edited. A few of the edits were awkward, and the show did not flow as we are used to. But, again, it was games from TPiR fit into another format. This was not an episode of TPiR. This was TPiR games being played on Gameshow Marathon. So, the edits, while awkward and very choppy, don't really bother me as much as if they messed up the daytime show and started shooting the show like this. Roger and crew do a very good job of editing and shooting the show every day and will never edit the show that badly.

Other that that, I look at it as it is...a show that's on the air in first-run episodes being given a tribute by a Gameshow tribute special. It's different than seeing a clip show, but it's still a tribute.

I know one of the goals of this is to get a companion show for Family Feud in Syndication for 2007. This won't get a nighttime version of Price anytime soon, but I think the other shows will translate better to this format. I am looking foreward to seeing Press Your Luck and Match Game.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: TVC on June 01, 2006, 01:26:51 AM
If there wasn't the traditional Price Is Right to compare this special to, I'd rate it as okay to pretty good. The opening montage was great. Rich DiPirro, a longtime admirer of classic game shows, did a competent directing job. (It was great to see the "pie" effect in the Showcase Showdown again.) Ricki Lake had the unenviable job of trying to fill the shoes of a legendary M.C., and she did well under the circumstances.

But the producers missed some basic opportunities to make the special more like the original. For instance, this was a golden chance to play only classic music cues. It would have been cool, too, to use art cards and a mechanical credit roll to provide that "classic look."

If they were to produce another of these specials, there are some fundamental things that can stand improvement. There was no need for that jib camera; the aerial shots were jarring. The post-production editing created an unnatural feel. (Has shooting a show live-to-tape become a lost art?)  The audio mix lacked dynamic range -- the audience's hooting was overly favored and became a distraction. The lighting design was too high-key.

But a lot of this is understandable. The people behind Game Show Marathon are not from the ranks of TPIR. Tonight, I heard from a friend who knows one of the Price Is Right staffers. He told him that the GSM crew (quote: "a bunch of young kids") solicited some limited assistance from the TPIR staff to get the things they needed, but the overall tone was that they wanted to do this special their own way.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: mikewpu04 on June 01, 2006, 01:34:20 AM
Heres my two cents:

I think the whole expierence would have been better for me if a few things were diffrent.

TPiR really isnt a celebrity format. The show just works better with regular people. I think Ricki as a host would have worked a lot better with regular people.

I wish they just did it on Stage 33, although i LOVED the opening reveal of the set.

Ricki was very much too fanish and not most hostish. She was jumping up and down etc. Its not about Barker not doing it, its about no game show host doing it like she did. Howee Mandel does it on Deal or no Deal but not as a fan just having fun with the contestant.

If this was supposed to be classic, where the hell was the classic music and set? To be honest, Price should not have been included in the context of everything else. They brough back the Match Game 73 set, the Press Your Luck set. Why make price modern?!

Other then that, hey it was something diffrent. First variant on Price in 12 years. Kudos 2 CBS.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Gatorman on June 01, 2006, 01:41:17 AM
My thoughts, since I wasn't here in chat.

Too bad there were no winners...I, too, thought there was only one putt (until I realized a second was edited out). Oh well, the Cadillac wouldn't have been won, anyway. Kathy lost her showcase...

I got the Race Game prices right in one go. Go me. ^^

And my showcase bids were $38,475 and $55,000, respectively.

Also, loved a few camera angles...especially those at the wheel! However, I wasn't too pleased about the pacing of the show. Ran like molasses.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: NickintheATL on June 01, 2006, 01:44:34 AM
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TVC hit the nail on the head in saying:

But the producers missed some basic opportunities to make the special more like the original. For instance, this was a golden chance to play only classic music cues. It would have been cool, too, to use art cards and a mechanical credit roll to provide that "classic look."


I agree with this, there is something nostalgic about chromakey and art cards.

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The post-production editing created an unnatural feel. (Has shooting a show live-to-tape become a lost art?)


As someone who is being trained to do live-to-tape shows in my curriculum, it would be the way I would do shows, dramatic, game or whatever.  The problem we have here with this show is that there were celebrities who bantered about and it made edits necessary. How to solve the problem? I would personally dump the celebrities, but then again, I'm not the running the show.


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The audio mix lacked dynamic range -- the audience's hooting was overly favored and became a distraction. The lighting design was too high-key.


Was I the only one who had a hard time hearing the music and sound effects, especially during Race Game? A very sloppy audio job, IMO.

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But a lot of this is understandable. The people behind Game Show Marathon are not from the ranks of TPIR. Tonight, I heard from a friend who knows one of the Price Is Right staffers. He told him that the GSM crew (quote: "a bunch of young kids") solicited some limited assistance from the TPIR staff to get the things they needed, but the overall tone was that they wanted to do this special their own way.


I appreciate this attempt at a classic feel of Price, I mean, we had lots of old stuff come back to the forefront in this show, I'm thakful for what we did see, just some polish work needed to be done... not a bad first effort, but not without its logistical problems.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: drmusic_99 on June 01, 2006, 01:55:37 AM
It was about what I expected, although I was pleasantly surprised at the opening retrospective.

Ricki Lake was disappointing, but that is what you get when you hire an actor (albeit one who lucked into her own talk show) instead of an actual, you know, broadcaster. It has nothing to do with "big shoes to fill" or anything like that -- it has to do with having a skillset that Ricki does not. Anyway, we're stuck with her for the rest of the series, so no use complaining.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Vexorg on June 01, 2006, 02:11:01 AM
There seems to be no surer way to turn an OK but problematic show into an absolute train wreck than to toss in a bunch of C-list celebrities, then drag out 30 minutes worth of show into an hour to give them more time to talk about themselves.    Again, I think Ricki Lake did an OK (not great) job of hosting here, but Bob would never had suffered these fools they tried to pass off as contestants.

OK kids, you've had your fun.  Now stand back and give the show back to the professionals.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: crinos43 on June 01, 2006, 02:16:44 AM
I'll admit I was confused about the whole show, but one does have to realize that it was not gonna be perfect anyway. In a perfect world, Bob would have hosted it, the standard hour foprmat would be there, and...well...there would be no celebs.

I thought the show was OK. I enjoyed seeing some of the celebs play (And Patge Davis is hot, let's all admit it now.), and there was some exictement coming from some of the celebs.

As for all of you who are confused about how the Showcase Showdown went, let me see if I can figure out the rules. here we go.

-The contestant nearest to a dollar without going over will be in the showcase guaranteed.
-After one round at the Big Wheel, the other two players spin-off to determine who else plays.

All in all I thought it was an OK show. I did not like the fact that the show went 0 for 3 or that the top winenr won only around $9,000 in prizes, but it could have been MUCH WORSE.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: crinos43 on June 01, 2006, 02:24:56 AM
And after reading what everyone else had to say about ricki's screams, I know one game where it would fit well.

Here's the clue.

Stop at...$4,000 AND A SPIN!
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: MCJ04 on June 01, 2006, 02:26:20 AM
I was half and half on this one. It was what I expected. My ideas on why Hole In One had the 2nd putt cut out was the fact that most of the games had some-kind of old-school approach to them.
Hole in One was originally just that.... Hole In ONE. They did an older reveal of the Plinko prizes as well as the Race Game prizes. They also brought in the SS arrow. So while the set was a 'modern' look, they decided to go older with the games. Thats the only thing that I can think of about the one putt.

I'm looking forward to LMAD and the rest of the GSM. I'm not going to totally bash the whole series based on just TPiR.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: TVC on June 01, 2006, 02:34:37 AM
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Was I the only one who had a hard time hearing the music and sound effects, especially during Race Game? A very sloppy audio job, IMO.
Indeed! Beyond the audience being way too loud in the mix, there were times when I couldn't hear the music or thought there were two tracks of music playing simultaneously. The shouting of Rich Fields and Ricki Lake didn't help the situation.

As for the abundance of editing, it may be that it was performed by less-than-qualified people. There was a time when any post-production editing would be supervised by the director or the A.D. Now it's standard practice on many shows (e.g., the last incarnation of Hollywood Squares) for producers and other non-directorial staff to do their own editing on Avid or Final Cut Pro systems. Shows produced by companies that are not signatories to the Directors Guild have the freedom to function this way. Money might be saved, but the on-screen results tend to suffer.

I don't know whether the director of Game Show Marathon was involved with the TPIR editing. Being what they call a "financial core" member of the Director's Guild, he is free to work for both signatory (union) and non-signatory production companies.

Some simple advice to people trying to recreate the quality of the classics:  Just watch and listen to the old tapes to learn how to do things properly.

I need to clear my palate. Pardon me while I go watch some of the J-Shea clips. ;-)
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: WilliamPorygon on June 01, 2006, 03:20:39 AM
(William had posted his own recap in this space. It has since been edited down to his comments only.)


Kathy appeared to be gypped, or at least playing a much older version of
this game, as the losing horns played and she was whisked off the stage
right after missing her first putt.  But, reports from people who
attended the taping indicate she was given a second putt (which she also
missed) that was edited out of the broadcast.  Odd that they have so
much dead time during the show but can't find time to squeeze in the
entire actual gameplay


Before Paige guessed on the MP3 Player, Ricki announced that if she
got it right, everyone in the audience would receive one.  The audience
seemed to be almost unanimous in urging Paige to pick the 9


The rules for tonight's Showcase Showdown were shaky at best.  At
the start, Ricki announced that the two with the highest scores without
going over would advance to the showcase.  (Wonder what would they'd
do if two of them went over?)  Then, after Paige's spins, she announced
that if Brande beat Kathy's 55 cents she would go to the showcase and
the other two would have a spinoff to decide which of them advanced,
unless she tied the 55 cents, in which case they'd just stick with the
"two highest scores advance" deal.  Just plain weird
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: kinyo on June 01, 2006, 07:14:59 AM
I throught it was good i dint care for the clebs i watched for ricki lake hosting. I throught she did a good job moving the show along. I also liked when ricki lake was jumping around. it was nice seeing tpir hosted by a female
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: nasnut67 on June 01, 2006, 07:17:07 AM
I can pinpoint the rules for the showcase showdown and they come from over the seas in GERMANY!  That was DER PRISS IST HEISS showcase showdown rules.  Here is what I have to say about the show.  I loved the montage at the start.  After hearing the interview on TVgameshows.net, I believe that Rikki was not enthused about what happened with Price.  I will say this, Rikki did great considering that was her first outing with a game show ever.  Game shows are way different than her 10 years+ on a talk show.  I thought she did well and I liked they way she hosted.  Paige Davis was fun to watch, but overall I was not impressed with the celebrities.  It was mentioned about Adam Corolla walking out, I caught the joke.  I do not like the current price set at all and would have rather seen the 80's-90's set.  That set screams The Price is Right to me more than the current set.  I come from a background of TV and film editing, and the showcase showdown was great, Hole in One SUCKED, Plinko was good, and Race Game looked great.  The showcases were great.  I loved the 66-06 Mustangs in the second showcase, that was something that I would expect in a TPIR special.  I expect Let's Make a Deal and the other shows to go off alot better.  I am still in and I hope you all will be too, especially when Press Your Luck goes off.  I talked to my cousin Thomas who went and he said PYL was really wild.  I take his word because he loves PYL.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Madonna on June 01, 2006, 07:45:41 AM
All I can say is I hope the heck the next six installments are done better than this one. I was more than a little disappointed myself...

Hole In One: On a positive note, I was pleased to see this be one of the three pricing games.

I was honestly all set to come on here and start griping about the lack of a second putt, but I can see that there WAS a second putt, but they felt the need to edit it out. After all, seeing the three contestants who didn't win their way up on stage eating cotton candy was far more important. :-?

Besides, it wasn't like they didn't have enough time to air the second putt. Ugh.

Does anyone know if Ricki herself tried an inspirational putt?

Plinko: Nice boots, Paige. Where did you get them, Paige? I could use a pair of them... And, uhh.. Uhhh.. Well, I honestly have no idea who you are.

Okay, so giving everyone in the audience a free MP3 player if she got that right was a nice touch..

I'm also a bit disappointed to have a chip got stuck, Ricki had to use the ol' stick, and that got cut out, too.. C'mon, CBS. What's more important: The games, or inane banter? Don't be a sucker, don't be NBC..

Range Game: Brande (who?), this game might've been a little easier in some more sensible shoes...

Showdown: That just made no sense at all. The top score advance, and the second and third place players - regardless of score - would have a spin-off? So you mean that one contestant could've gotten $1.00, the second could've had 95 cents, the third could've had a dime, and the two who had 10 and 95 would've spun-off?! I'm sorry, but there's something very wrong with that picture...

Thank you, Brande (who?) for putting a monkey wrench into THAT by tying Kathy and getting that over with..

I was also going to gripe about the lack of a bonus spin and/or Ricki not bringing it up, but after all the OTHER edits that have been mentioned, I'm just going to assume she DID bring it up and that got cut out as well... :-?

Showcases: A 1966 Mustang? That was evil.. I mean, damned nice cars, but who outside of huge car enthusiasts are going to be able to bid on THAT?

And now my thoughts on some of the people who gave us this, uhh.. special.

Ricki: You know, I didn't go into this with high hopes for her, and Ricki didn't disappoint.. I didn't expect her to be Bob Barker (or even Kennedy, quite frankly, and keep in mind I could do without Kennedy).. But Ricki was way too loud, and it felt like she'd stepped right off the set for her talk show and right into GSM..

I don't despise Ricki Lake (though you could say I am the opposite of a fan of her talk show), but she definitely needs to tone it down in the next six shows. I don't know if she's used to being loud because of her show, or thought she had to scream over the audience, or what.. But you don't need to be so loud, Ricki...

Rich: Last night was a tale of two Rich Fields... Most of the time, he was on and sounding like the Rich we know and love.. But every so often, he sounded a little more like the Rich when he first appeared on the show two years ago: Where he lacked energy, sounded a bit dull, and where I'd picture him with this "Deer in the headlights" look on his face.. Which maybe he DID have on his face - maybe he was wondering what on Earth was going on, or thinking "Bob is going to kill me when he sees this" or something...

Not a terrible performance, but a bit subpar by Rich's recent standards..

Adam Corrolla: Don't worry, Adam. That's how Los Angeles radio listeners react to you, too - by storming away angry, wondering why we got stuck with you instead of someone who's actually funny.

I'm sorry, Adam, but wake up and smell the noise.. You're not funny. You weren't funny on The Man Show or whatever it's called, you're not funny on radio, and you weren't funny last night. Why they felt the need to give us your "reactions" is beyond me - could be the fact you work for CBS radio?

Paige Davis: Nice boots. I could use those in my collection. Really. They're pretty sweet. Uhh.. Who are you, and what do you do again?

Kathy Najimy: That son of yours just ain't right in the head.. What were you and Hank doing when you conceived Bobby, anyway?

Tim Meadows: Who? And SNL is still around?

Lance Bass: Didn't his 15 minutes of fame end back in 1995? And what is he doing out of prison?! Huh? You mean he didn't get sentenced to life in prison for being a member of N'Sync? Well, he should've been!

Brande Roderick: Who?

Leslie Nielsen: Yay! A celebrity I've heard of, and am a fan of - except for Paige's boots, of course. Though, he just seemed so out of it.. Bored? Lost? I don't know.. Maybe they shoud've played the theme for Naked Gun as he came on down?

The set: You know, being a mock-up with a black floor, it looked pretty good.. You could see they put some time and effort into that.. Sure, there were some differences, but you could clearly see they put the time and effort into making things look as accurate as possible..

The good:

Rich
The set
The 1966 Mustang (that was a pretty nice car and unique idea, if not evil)
Giving everyone MP3 players
Playing Hole In One
Seating the six celebrities who'll be on Match Game in with the rest of the crowd, complete with nametags
The classic video footage
Paige's boots

The bad:

Ricki being a little TOO boisterous
Not knowing who some of these celebrities were
The editing

The ugly:

Lance Bass
Adam Corrolla

The just plain weird:

Leslie Nielsen (Everyone loves you, Leslie.. Have a little more fun next time, please!)
The Showcase Showdown rules

My score: 6.5/10. Not horrible, but I was hoping for a bit better.. Hopefully they'll learn a few things from the first show - see what worked, what didn't work, and improve from here...

Having the pages carry guns and keep Lance and Adam away would help, too.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: BRB_TheFireball on June 01, 2006, 07:50:34 AM
One-Bid #1 - Girls on trampolines!  :-P  An appropriate first prize given that Adam Carolla was in the audience.  And this is something you'll never see on the real TPIR--a contestants row without the stick microphones and all of the players wearing clip-ons.

PG #1 -  :-o  Putt-Putt for a Cadillac?  They'd never do that on the MDS!  I regret to say that I would've been one line behind Kathy.  I had candy, salsa, cleaner, pain relief, detergent, calcium.  And I do not like the idea of not playing "Hole in Two".

One-Bid #2 - Am I the only one here that thought everybody had overbid on that clock?

PG #2 - Celebrities + Plinko = $2,100 Stinko

One-Bid #3 -  :lol:  Is this the first time anybody has been so POd about not getting called down that they left in disgust?

PG #3 - Hearing "Starcrossed" and Rich begin with "A wonderful array of prizes!" at the beginning of Race Game almost led me to believe that we we're gonna play Credit Card!  :-D  :-D  :-D  And I don't know what Brande was thinking by putting $6,495 on the sofa.

Showcases - One thing never changes:  Celebrity or not, a player is gonna overbid on a Mustang showcase.

My bids - FRBS:  $35,700.  Mustangs:  $45,000.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: shellgame69 on June 01, 2006, 09:09:02 AM
Things I liked: The Split screen shot of the wheel!
Opening Montages.
1966 Mustang.

The so-so things: Ricki hosting style, was a bit too loud sometimes, but did a nice job overall.

The absolutely terrible things:
Edits: Absolutely sloppy and evident everywhere, particularly Hole in One. :-?

Plinko Segment: Not surprised to see it show up, but that scene with Paige and audience going crazy looked contrived.  Hey isn't that like the mess that's happening to DOND? :-?

Brande Roderick was HOT! :-P  And I was glad Race game showed up, but that playing was pathetic.  Walking in this game is bad, but looking to the audience while walking?  C"MON!

Showcases: I knew Kathy was way over on the Mustangs.  I would have said $47,900.  Brande was way off on the boat.

The camera angles were very distracting, particularly the showcase showdown.

s...l...o..w p...a...c...i...n...g (I know, just did that to demostrate how slow the pacing was)and the celebrities chatter fest was annoying and loud!

Overall: I agree with the majority, not the best show to start the series, so lets see if LMAD game goes a lot better tonight.  Grade: D
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Ferdy9338 on June 01, 2006, 09:09:58 AM
I'd been looking forward to this for a while...

I was already expecting this to look a bit rough, seeing as how almost no backstage TPiR people were involved in it. I figured it would be like a bunch of kids breaking into the studio while Bob's asleep and playing with his toys and games.

The opening was nice. The mini-documentary on TPiR's history was awesome. It's great to see "Uncle Bill" Cullen get some love, too. I would love to see some of those old shows again (I finally got GSN on cable 4 years after they stopped showing it.). And of course the big set reveal was sweet.

I actually was expecting a regular 6-game show. And despite the interminable celeb banter at the beginning, I didn't realize it was gonna be a 3 game format until it was time for the Showcase Showdown. :-?

IUFB#1: Rachel and Shane in the Britney outfits...LOL that was wierd. I always think of the Man Show's old "Girls on trampolines" segment when they give one away. Maybe they were appealing to Adam Carolla a bit.

Hole in One (But not Two): Apparently Kathy's recovering from a broken toe, and had to step cafefully. I totally forgot about the Tide. I remembered it after she picked the Simple Green, and I thought she'd blown it then. I was shocked that the Tide turned out to be $8.99, and instead she blew it on the Theragesic which I thought was more.

I thought it was just old school Holey until I read about the edit. If it's true, then it's inexcusable (although the sign still read "In One" when Ricki tossed it to commercial). If the second put was cut out, I wonder if some doofball thought..."oh she missed both, what's the point of airing both?" and cut it out. I disliked that commercial break right between the car reveal and the game, too.

IUFB#2: I thought they'd all overbid on the clock. I thought it was about $2500.

Pl!nko!: This is where I actually got shocked about the basketball shaped slow-cooker being $12. Either way, that was quite a brain-fart, thinking that it could cost $70 or $80 (in the 5/31/06 daytime show's playing). The $46 salad shooter also suprised me, and I've seen that one too!

Paige was lots of fun in this game, with her playing for the Mp3 player bonus at the end of the SP section being hilarious. The "9" was the obvious choice there.

IUFB#3 Adam Carolla "storms" out. LOL old Letterman gag. I thought it was odd to bring a chair down from the ceiling. Nice and different, really. Leslie Nielsen actually echoed my sentiments when he asked Brande "You bid what??". I thought the chair was about $899 myself.

Race Game: I'd never seen Race Game without the lower end of the "R" and "A" unobscured before. Kind of a rough outing, though...$6497 for a sofa? Aye. The Steadicam shots were pretty cool, though.

Showcase Showdown: Oh boy. That was one whacked playing of the Big Wheel due to the confusing rules. On the flip side, ALL HAIL THE TRIANGLE SHOT! I can't even remember when that was last used. That made it fun.

Showcases: Five prize showcases? Wow. A vintage car offered along with a new one? Double wow. I bid $40,000 on Brande's showcase, and $48,000 on Kathy's.

Overall, this was a neat little one-off special. There were some pretty good moments as well as some PAINFULLY bad ones. The editing was bad both sound and videowise, especially in regards to Rich's announcing. And the banter too way too much time that could've been used for a full Hole in One game. Ricki did OK as the host. She missed a few things like the $500 perfect bonus in Holey (with the flag sitting up there), I wonder if she was only going to explain them if the situation actually arose. The celebrities were typical B-list. I'm not sure A-listers would be that much better, though.

So now the kids had their fun, they can put away Bob's toys and go home. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the G$M's. I love seeing these classics get some prime-time love, although I'd hoped to see Password in there. Oh well, hopefully it'll have the same effect the UK version had, and lead to a revival of one of the defunct shows on there. :-)
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Franc on June 01, 2006, 09:26:54 AM
Ok, time for my 2 cents!

I have to admit that at times, I regretted not having internet at home, because I would have loved to see some of the reactions on the chat room!

First the opening sequence was awesome, with the old TPIR clips. And also, the reveal of the TPIR set was just awesome (although , am I the only one who noticed the left panel didn't move away on cue?).

I admit the girls on the tramp was too much, but we have to understand it's primetime, they try to get as much people watching. The average male viewer who happen to stumble on CBS at that exact moment when the models were jumping will probably stick around to see if there will be more ...

Hole In One : I was actually at the gym when I saw that part, and the first thing I thought was "Wait, did I miss one?". But when I got home and watched the tape, I couldn't beleive it!

Plinko!: Giving away an MP3 player to everyone if Paige got the price right was a great twist. Given that this ain't the Real Price Is Right, it's a great thing! That being said ... am I the only one who could see that on an MDS?

Oh, and since no one mentionned it. I know this is celebrity PIR and all ... but, Paige, do you really think the Peanuts Gallery knows more than you where you should drop the chip ?!?!?

Race Game : Horribly played! Don't look at the crowd when you play any timed game! But then again, Celebrity Price Is Right !

SCSD : The Arrow is back ! That should definitaly be brought back on the daytime show! I also thought that the aerial cam shot was awesome! Could be great for a MDS. But granted, the rules were WAY too confusing!

Was I the only one who thinks that Ricki actually tried to emulate Bob when saying "A nickel!"?

Showcases : Lots of prizes. The 2 Mustang's were cool! My bids were $33000 for Brande's showcase, and $60000 for Kathy's.

I must admit, I'm not a fan of Ricki Lake, but she looked like she did her homework. She knew the rules of the games (except maybe for the SCSD, but then again, I don't think no one did, or does at the moment), and explained them well! She might have been more cheerful, but then again, I'll forgive that given her lack of gameshow hosting experience.

In the "bad" section, I will say the sound was horrible. Watching at the gym, I thought maybe it was my headphones, but when I watched it at home, I realised that it really was the sound. I also agree that there were too much edits, and not too subtle ones, mind you!

But in all, I think we all knew we weren't watching the Price Is Right, but merely a sample, a highlight of it! I agree with the one who said that had TPIR been off the air, it would have been great to see, but I did enjoy it, and should there be a second season of GSM next year, and they play TPIR again, I'll gladly watch as well!

Final score : 8.9 / 10 !!!
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: JRR4 on June 01, 2006, 09:30:32 AM
Which props were real and which were replicas?  I thought plinko looked about 7/8 scale.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: JasonA1 on June 01, 2006, 09:55:25 AM
CBS.com can vouch for Plinko and the wheel being the genuine articles, and given the appearance of it all, I'm willing to bet everything was the genuine article on this show.

-Jason
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Jordanar18 on June 01, 2006, 10:01:49 AM
I don't think contestants' row was the real one, as the numbers were a little darker than usual.  But I think the showcase podiums were the real ones.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: ILoveBonusGame on June 01, 2006, 10:55:08 AM
TVC, I totally agree. There had to have been two tracks playing simultaneously not during Race Game, but also during the come on down segments. I suppose if one wanted to see nostalgia in that, watch the premiere episode of Price after Bob walks out of the big doors, or the "stand up" segment of the second episode of Price.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: SteveGavazzi on June 01, 2006, 10:56:19 AM
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nasnut67 wrote:
I can pinpoint the rules for the showcase showdown and they come from over the seas in GERMANY!  That was DER PRISS IST HEISS showcase showdown rules.


With all due respect, I doubt Der Preis Ist Heiss's SCSD rules were so completely screwed up.  I challenge you to reconcile Ricki's two explanations with one another.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Gerald78 on June 01, 2006, 11:27:21 AM
Can't add alot to the above comments, but a few things:'

Rikki was OK, she needs to tone it down though :P  I wish Mr. Neilson had gotten onstage - that could have been interesting :)

Agree with everyone that the editing/sound could have been done a lot better.  

I was disappointed that there wasn't a classic turntable game played but it looks they didn't incorporate a turntable into the set.

The old SS was used for the Showdown....hurray!!

Great showcases - Wouldn't it be fun if they'd try to give away the two Mustangs on the daytime show. ;)

I'll have to look at my tape again....did we get to hear Rod during the opening montogue?

Overall, could've been better, but could have been a LOT worse too.  Grade: B-
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Agent_Almeida on June 01, 2006, 12:24:19 PM
I would've liked it a little more if they did do the full six games and do it with Bob.

Mind you I didn't mind Paige getting up there.

As for the rest of the marathon... well... we'll see what my mood is...
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: backbiter on June 01, 2006, 12:29:48 PM
Wow! I had to TIVO the show and just got finished watching it. I'm not going to rehash the above comments. I agree with 99% percent of them. But when it was over, all I could think of was this. I always thought that SNL skit of Celebrity Jeopardy was just a parody. But I was wrong. Celebrities really are that stupid! I'd rather be tortured in an Icelandic hostel, than watch that again. Horrible!
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Mallory16 on June 01, 2006, 12:31:19 PM
If they had done the showcase showdown in a more normal way, by just putting the top two scores in the showcase, why are so many people worried about "what if two people went over"?  That wouldn't have happened, just like not all three people can go over on the actual show.  If they took the top two scores, then if the first contestant went over, they could've just automatically sent the last two spinners to the showcase, each getting only one spin, so there could not have been two people going over.  Simple, really, and it would've been a heck of a lot simpler than whatever they were doing!
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: MSTieScott on June 01, 2006, 01:38:23 PM
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Joe_Capitano wrote:
They shot the game action with the steadicam, and it seems to work quite nicely.
Too bad it's not in the budget for real TPiR (or, maybe we're better off for it!).

I vote for "better off for it." That shot of the trampoline made me seasick. I can imagine it working in Beat the Clock, but on what other game show is a hand-held camera necessary?


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actual_retail_tice wrote:
As for the charities, do they win those prizes, or (hopefully) the cash equivalent?

In the opening, Rich said that the charity of the winner of Family Feud will receive $100,000 cash. Don't know what the other five charities get.


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catdogwheel wrote:
Ricki should've asked about the celebrity charities when they won an IUFB.

But then you'd have three charities that wouldn't get mentioned at all.


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JRR4 wrote:
Which props were real and which were replicas?  I thought plinko looked about 7/8 scale.

All of the pricing games and the big wheel were the real props. The showcase displays were from daytime. The One Bid displays were the real ones sitting on a custom stand. The turntable façade and the big doors were built for the special.

And I still maintain that those newly-built big doors were nearly, if not exactly, the same size. Plinko looks like it would barely fit underneath them, just like daytime. And when the grandfather clock was pushed out directly in front of the doors for the One Bid, the relative size looked right. It's just that the space behind the doors was incredibly cramped. Between that and there being only two doors, is stage 33 wider than 46?

Fun fact: They also had Cliff Hangers waiting in the wings in case something went wrong during one of the pricing games.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: edmojautis on June 01, 2006, 01:38:44 PM
Ricki Lake may not be one of my favorite TV personalities, but I'll give her credit for paying homage to Bob and ending the show with the "Spay and Neuter" tag.

Rich did his best and I have to say he was LOUD.

The beauties were of course....H-H-H-HHHHH-HOT!!! (Those school girl outfits left me "wetting my pants"!!!)

The clips of TPIR's past were supremely AWESOME!!! Got to hear Johnny and Rod's voices, See Janice and Anitra, and "Smiling" Bill Cullen got some good love as well.  :-)

The Celebs....Well, I enjoyed Paige Davis and she actually had the spirit (I wonder if that squad from the WWE has a spot for her) of a traditional TPIR player. Kathy Najimy tried her best and did feel a bit "out-of-place". "The Other" Brande wins the crown for ditziest player of the night.  :-P Leslie Nielsen was just being....Leslie Nielsen. :lol: The rest of the "stars" can go back to land of obscurity.

How the heck did Bruce Vilanch get there?

I thought that Adam Carolla bit was hilarious.

The edits were a huge con. That second putt was more reasonably watchable than all that "yada, yada, yada" Ricki and the celebs gave.

The SCSD left me startled. Confusing rules and a blatantly unfair turnout. The "pie" shots were the saving grace.

Showcases were both AWESOME. I had a hunch Kathy overbidded. Even I couldn't figure out the price of that cool '66 Mustang.

The Verdict:

I hope on the rest of these shows, Ricki tones herself down and a lot less edits.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: chnlsrfr4 on June 01, 2006, 01:39:34 PM
I gotta say I wasn't particularly impressed with the show. Way to slow, and editing out the second put is absolutly bogus. And Paige was pretty much the only celebrity who really seemed to be having a good time. And Rikki wasn't too great.

The arrow show on the wheel was far too awesome. Why the heck did they ever get rid of that. The classic mustang was pretty cool too.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 01, 2006, 01:49:02 PM
Ok...review time of TPiR, Game Show Marathon style!

--The intro was awesome!  Even taking the show to its roots with Bill Cullen!  Nice use of music (including my favorite cue, the Race Game Prize cue) and all the clips they used.  The Yolanda clip was different...no black box, just blurred!

--The set was weird with only two big doors, but Contestant's Row could work elevated like that.

--Ricki Lake is absolutely no Bob Barker.

--A friggin' 77-thousand dollar CAR!?  And Hole in One with and edited second shot!?  Yeech. (note:  Apparently the famous line "Portions of this show was edited, not affecting the outcome" did not apply)

--Whoever did the cues for this “episode” needs mental clearing.  Hopefully it wasn't whoever does it on the show normally.

--The Plinko sign must be dead.

--The {bleep}ing Starcrossed Remix is used for the prize reveal of Race Game?  Could this show be any worse?

--I'm glad the wheel wasn't around for the half-hour shows.  That method was confusing as hell.  But that arrow shot was definitely old-school!

--The second showcase (Time Machine) needs to be used on the daytime show.  That was about the only awesome thing about this show.  I would LOVE to play for a '66 Mustang AND a 2006 Mustang.

--FUTURE CONTESTANTS:  DO NOT bid like these celebs did on their showcase.  Proof of extreme overbidding and extreme underbidding.

--Did I mention Ricki Lake is no Bob Barker?

I must have had extremely high expectations since CBS has done 6 THOUSAND PLUS episodes of this show.  It was, IMHO, bad.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Ccook on June 01, 2006, 02:01:18 PM
Not much to add, the thoughts I have are pretty much a mix of everything said. In essence, the show was a watchable mess.

Slowing down the recording of the models on the trampoline, I saw that they were wearing shorts under their skirts. I seriously doubt they'd flash panties as did the trampoline girls on The Man Show. (And seconded on Adam Carolla not being funny.)
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: mandelweb on June 01, 2006, 02:22:43 PM
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tpirfan28 wrote:
--The {bleep}ing Starcrossed Remix is used for the prize reveal of Race Game?  Could this show be any worse?



Wasn't the Starcrossed Remix used as the price reveal for "Race Game" for a while back in the 70s and 80s?

I seem to remember hearing it used as the Race Game cue back in the day...

- Mandel
http://mandelweb.com
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 01, 2006, 02:33:00 PM
The one clip I have of Race Game is from the '86 specials and it doesn't use the Starcrossed Remix.  Don't know about earlier/later though.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: 3StrikesFan on June 01, 2006, 03:01:19 PM
I didn't really know what to expect when I heard they were playing TPIR with celebrities, but it just goes to show that it really doesn't work.

I agree with a lot of what everyone said about what was good (split screen for Big Wheel, classic clips)and what wasn't good in the show (odd camera angles and stagings, b- list celebrities), but you all have to realize that the other game shows that are coming up later on in the month will probably be much better with celebrities playing. I for one am looking forward to Card Sharks, Match Game, Press Your Luck and Family Feud.

Ricki Lake was not awful. Hey, it could have been worse.    

I'm not that surprised that they showed Janice in the clips in the beginning. First off, I doubt Bob had any say in what clips were used. It may have been different had he been hosting, though.

It doesn't surprise me either that someone here mentioned that the crew involved in GSM were young (Forgive me if that's not what was actually said) because no one working on the actual TPIR would put Rachel and Shane in "Britney Spears reject" Catholic school girl outfits. Didn't it also seem stupid that they were in those outfits for Hole In One's playing, especially since they went to commerical before the game was even shown?

I am not writing off these shows just because of the first playing. I look forward to seeing the rest. Was this the very first episode that Ricki hosted, or are they airing out of order? Because Ricki was probably nervous and I'm sure in later episodes, that nervousness will wear off.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: logikreader on June 01, 2006, 03:07:09 PM
The shows will most definately air in order of taping.  I mentioned to my friend this morning that PiR is the *worst* choice you could make for this Series.  The whole thing with The Price is Right is being able to select needy random contestants from the audience.  It doesn't make any sense when you bring in people who already have lots of money and other items.

edit: AND already know they're going to be called on down... Imagine how you would react if you already knew a month ago you were going to be in CR.

Having been at a few of these, trust me it will get better... in fact probably a lot better.  The other game shows (after LMaD) will be suited very well for Celeb play.  And just wait until the PYL episode... oh man that will be one to remember (no spoilers, of course).
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: styleguy on June 01, 2006, 03:21:31 PM
Price is Right really does not work as a celebrity show.  Celebrities talk way too much about themselves, they're there to impress and make jokes and whatnot, and that really detracts from a show that is based on the games and gameplay, like the Price is Right.  I would rather have the regular Joes and Janes.  

Now on to my thoughts on the show
1.  The clips were wonderful, a great way to start the show.  The show wasn't a titanic disaster, but it wasn't great either.  Ricki wasn't bad, a little too perky, but nothing too irritating or obnoxious.  She had big shoes to fill, she didn't quite fill them, but she didn't vomit in them either.
2.  The schoolgirl outfits, did I also take a trip in the time machine to 1995 when these were in vogue?  Bad wardrobe people, very bad wardrobe people.  
3.  They edited out Kathy's second putt, that's outrageous.  All that talk they could have edited out, that commercial they could decide not to air, so this could fit.  Crazy.
4.  Starcrossed and Race Game don't mix, leave Starcrossed for Credit Card, Shopping Spree or Step Up.  Brande was TERRIBLE in this game.  First she should have taken off those platform high heels she was in, so she could at least run.  Second, she kept looking at the audience to tell her what to do, NEVER let the audience tell you what to do.  Third, 6495 on a SOFA!  I was appalled!  That setup was so easy!  I would have gotten it on the first shot.
5.  The Showcase Showdown rules could be described in one word, confusing!  They could have said split an atom while standing on one foot and it would have been simpler.  
6.  I was only off by $4040 on Kathy's showcase.  I bid $58,120, it was $62,160.  
7.  I really like PIR's cues, and I could barely hear some of them.  The audio really sucked.  I like PIR cues, feature them.  On the daytime show, you can hear them.  

All in all, not bad, but not thrilling entertainment.  5.9 out of 10.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: NickintheATL on June 01, 2006, 03:22:20 PM
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mandelweb wrote:
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tpirfan28 wrote:
--The {bleep}ing Starcrossed Remix is used for the prize reveal of Race Game?  Could this show be any worse?



Wasn't the Starcrossed Remix used as the price reveal for "Race Game" for a while back in the 70s and 80s?

I seem to remember hearing it used as the Race Game cue back in the day...

- Mandel
http://mandelweb.com


That is most definately correct, it was used a lot back in the day for that and Take Two.

tpirfan28, I don't see where that is bad at all, please put down the revolver...
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Kyle on June 01, 2006, 03:30:39 PM
My two cents:

The set reproduction was fairly cool. Although, quite frankly, a bit unnecessary since the real "Price is Right" set was on the same lot. Alas, no big deal.

The directing was pretty solid; I liked a lot of the throwbacks to some long lost "Price is Right" bits, like the opening of the big doors to reveal the Plinko prizes and of course the Showcase Showdown arrow.

They picked some good games to play. Finally, Hole in One shows up in primetime. I find it disappointing that they played it tonight, and yet, on the real "Price is Right", it hasn't appeared since 1986 while Dice Game has been played multiple times. Plinko is always fun to see as is the Race Game. It's all good. Three pricing games has surely irritated a good portion of viewers, however, with the amount of talking and retrospective given during the special, it was sort of akin to the 25th anniversary special (sans the big wheel of course.)

Ricki Lake was fairly good as the host. (Nice touch having her use Bob's microphone, by the way.) The celebrities are another story. I wish Leslie Neilsen could have made it onstage; he's about the only one I really like as a celebrity. I also called it that Tim Meadows would play for The Chris Farley Foundation.

People can say Rich wasn't as good tonight as he usually is on "The Price is Right", but, in my opinion, it was good to just have him on the show. I mean, they could have done FAR, FAR worse. (read: Burton Richardson or Daniel Rosen...)
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: Nick on June 01, 2006, 03:56:25 PM
There better never be another thread suggesting a celebrity Price Is Right special, for now that we've seen just basicaly what it'd look like, it would just not work.  Those games to follow that have actually used celebrity editions before (Card Sharks, Family Feud) will probably come out better, but The Price Is Right was just not made for it.

But celebrity players alone didn't degrade the show.  The terrible editing and sound mixing was a real pain.  The direction couldn't hold a steady good or bad either.  At times, it was beautiful (like that Showcase Showdown triangle, hint, hint, Bart).  Other times, it was atrocious.  Plus, the structure could have been way better.  There was no need for a commercial break between the first One Bid and Hole in One.  That was just plain cheesy and wrong, and Bart's follow-down shot to the Big Wheel spinning was nowhere near as bad as...what they used here.

Still, even as much as they could and should have done this better, I really couldn't get mad over how it turned out.  I guess that was because this really wasn't The Price Is Right.  If it had been, I would definetly have been a lot more frustrated.

And one thing I feel I must rant about in its own paragraph:  the Showcase Showdown.  I really don't care how "iconic" the Big Wheel has become.  With them doing the half-hour format, it had absolutely no reason to be included in the show, especially with the botched format they used.  If they were vintage enough to play Hole in One with one putt (even if the second was edited out), they can certanily do the show without the Showcase Showdown.

But there were many upsides to the show as well.  Most impressively being the clip montage at the top of the show.  There was definetly some new stuff in there, or at least stuff I can't recall having seen, and they even had the Cullen version in there as well.  Plus, the set itself was beautiful to look at.  That Contestants' Row was just plain awesome, and major props to them for having included the GT astricks on it.  A white floor would have made things better as well, but I guess we couldn't get everything.

And major props for that follow-down shot on the Race Game price tags before the game.  That was true vintage.

As for Ricki's hosting...it will be interesting to see what follows, for TPIR and LMaD were most likely the two most difficult roles to fill.  As such, I'm going to be a little more lenient on her here than in other shows, but overall she really wasn't that bad.  My only major gripe was the fact that she really didn't take enough of a "dominating" role as emmece, and instead played too much along with the contestants.  Plus, she fumbled with explanations and details in several places.  She did have decent interaction and kept things flowing pretty well, but once we get to the "easier" games, I'm expecting better.

So, what is there to make for a general opinion?  Well, it wasn't fantastic, but it certanily could have been a lot worse.  Still, I haven't watched any primetime TV since Valentine's Day MDS, so I'm keeping up.  I'll be watching the whole series.  Things are probably going to get better with the shows that are no longer in play.  Because we still have TPIR weekdays, I felt this was probably going to be the least-impressive show.

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TVC wrote:
I need to clear my palate. Pardon me while I go watch some of the J-Shea clips. ;-)


Hmmm...perhaps if he saw the show too, it might put him in the mood to upload more clips. ;-)
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: thewhammy_2000 on June 01, 2006, 04:06:46 PM
So far a little good. All this talk (beit good or bad) made me think we will not play six games--maybe some of the popular games like Plinko and Hole in One.

Hole in One (not Two): I had a hunch that I'll be right on this one. I can't believe I didn't fall for the Theragesic trick. "Only one putt? I'll bet Kathy would've got it on the second try."

Plinko: At least the camera shots were spectacular than the daytime version...

Race Game: Just like the last playing: The expensive prize was right, but this time, I couldn't get the other three... unless I had just a little bit more time.

After reading all of these posts, the show was not that bad, but not as great as the frequent daytime. I like the opening montage of clips, including the ones you always see on the web and game show specials.
As soon as I saw the models on the first one bid, I immediately said, "Girls jumping on trampolines!" and wishing I had a beer to chug. I also thought Hole in One was playing the old format until I read that a putt was edited out. Speaking of edits, there was too many of them. I thought they were done because of the noise or something. A little choppy if you ask me.
Some of the camera shots were great. I hope they can transfer (back) to the daytime version. I kinda doubt that; maybe it's how the director wants the show to be done.
A little funny at times, but some of it was mostly chatter and unnecessary--unless Bob did it at times. Overall, not bad, but it can get much better.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: dm on June 01, 2006, 04:22:49 PM
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As for the abundance of editing, it may be that it was performed by less-than-qualified people. There was a time when any post-production editing would be supervised by the director or the A.D.


I'm fairly certain that Fred Witten (the AD) still supervises "Price"'s minimal editing.
Title: Re: Game Show Marathon -- Night 1 -- TPiR
Post by: jimlange on June 01, 2006, 04:33:20 PM
I did not get to see all of the show last night and from the reports here it sounds like I didn't miss much.  I am excited to see LMAD tonight(and for some who have or have not been to my LMAD page be expecting a CLEAN MUSICAL update thanks to this special!!) and how they did it. In fact my contact at Hatos-Hall informed me that they took the blueprints for the original set!!!  Anyways, back to the topic on hand as many of you have stated this is reason number 2678 to NOT do Celebrity TPIR.  It is just not that type of show.  If you want to have celebs, the only way to do it is to have them play along with the on stage contestant(a la Bob's Birthday MDS).  This is a normal everyday people show and cannot be done the way it was.  For some of you who may be a little bit leary of LMAD tonight, LMAD has had a celebrity version.  The first four weeks of the 1975-1976 syndicated season, the show had celebrities making deals for the home viewer.  The celebrities did VERY well for the home viewer, but it was never repeated.  Don't know if they did in daytime.  Anyways, so this makes TPIR & PYL the only shows on the Game show marathon to not have celebs play the game in their original versions.

jimlange
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Joe_Capitano on June 01, 2006, 05:12:38 PM
"Fast National" Ratings report from zap2it.com:

"Dateline," 5.8/10, put NBC in the lead among households at 8 p.m. (ET/PT), although the premiere of "Gameshow Marathon" on CBS, 5.5/10, had a few more viewers.

Bottom line, despite the quirks G$M did pretty well. BTW: Lanisha's other gig (DOND) posted a 6.8 - but that was a rerun and it ran after G$M.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: ClockGameJohn on June 01, 2006, 07:26:36 PM
I very rarely recap shows, and especially a show that ISN'T THE[/u] Price is Right.  

Although, I feel the need to be quite honest with my feelings on this show, if nothing more than to show my respect to those who put on the "real deal" every day.

Let's start:  I tried to avoid spoilers and inside info for this show as much as possible so that my views would not be tainted.  I'm not a Ricki Lake fan, she's not a gameshow host, and I'm 100% sure that The Price is Right will NOT be the same without Bob.

The opening montage was very good.  I am under the impression that the folks behind GSM were all younger fans of classic gameshows and their efforts and respect paid to Bob and the legacy of The Price is Right at the beginning was commendable.

The fun pretty much stopped there.

I did not feel that Rich himself was a major flaw to the show or the audio trouble.  He was a bit loud.  I think that after working in a studio the size of 33 and then moving to 46 with a different sized "planned" audience might be a bit harder to judge if you are trying to do a voiceover.  There were CLEARLY some edited voiceovers (the 2006 Mustang was chopped big time) and I blame post production for those audio flaws.

The Beauties were all looking great tonight.  One nice thing about rotational models is that the Producer's of this show were able to select 3 current models and use them.

There were celebrities on this show?  I consider myself to be fairly in tune with pop culture and today's television, but I honestly knew more of the people in the audience than on the show.  Lance Bass would have probably made a decent contestant just simply because of his age.  As a fan of dry humor, the Adam Corolla bit and Bruce Vilanch's facial expression (and even Kathy Griffin's crossed finger segment) were funny to me, but in retrospect, they seemed out of place.  If they were going to keep up with the theme of throwing various celebrity expressions in to resemble true audience reactions, they quit too soon and by the end of the show made them awkward.

I have absolutely no clue who some of those people were on the show.

Why is everyone cutting on the girls on trampolines?  The Funtek USA tramp has been used on the daytime show before and often features the Beauties playing with a ball.  Sure, the outfits were a bit of a change from the daytime version, but they didn't seem to me to be out of line.  Too many people are stuck on something minor like that.

Hole in One - Cool. Ok, so they edited the second shot.  Big deal.  I was happy to move the show along.

Plinko.  Yep.

Race Game.  This was the most enjoyable part of the show for me, unfortunately it was filled with some production issues.  The Starcrossed cue was a welcome return.  (Yes, it was used in the 80's)  The direction of the Race Game prize reveal was my favorite thing on the show.  The camera continued to move to each prize and then the wipe for the closeup.  Real cool.  However, I'd have to guess on another edit after Race Game was over.  The studio PA was way too loud and you could easily hear the Price theme playing in the studio at a different interval than the air theme.  Not cool.  While we're on that audio, the Race Game think music had WAY too much studio PA to pick up audience reaction and not nearly enough air volume and it just didn't work at all.  (That's why you see the nice gentleman in the booth in the back of the audience of the daytime show - thank him for not making the real show sound like that!)

The Wheel.  I did hear the pie shot was coming back for the Wheel and it was nice.  (Why green?)  The rules were absolutely obsurd.  What if the 3rd spinner HAD chosen to spin again and gone over?  What if...oh man, forget it.

Showcases - Not bad.  The first Showcase just seemed out of place.  The prizes were improperly revealed (a trip is wheeled out after the Sea "dash" Doo boat?)  I think that instead of using the prizes in an order which would have been easier for the stage crew, they just simply went in value order.

Am I supposed to bid on the price of a 1966 Mustang in 1966, or in 2006?  Good thing it was a celebrity version - what an S&P nightmare.  I liked the Showcase theme, but using a prize like that was just weird.

One nice thing to say about Ricki, she tried to emulate Bob as best she could.  Unfortunately, it's just not as easy as it looks.  She was too giddy, too loud, too girly, and became a bit annoying for my tastes.

I think one thing that will be a major issue for me watching these shows is that none of them were hosted by a female.  I'm in no way being a cheavanist, but it's very awkward.

My girlfriend, who is probably more sick of the Price is Right than anyone who doesn't have the same affection I do, said "they really screwed that up."  That's from someone with an outside opinion and a non-gameshow outlook.

I have been a fan of Mr. DiPirro's directing on Deal or No Deal and I think that because that has been "his baby" since day 1 it works well.  To make drastic changes to an established show can be a recipe for disaster.

That comment goes for the entire production.  I know some people involved in this show and I feel that they tried to be respectful in what they did, but doing the BEST GAMESHOW EVER first is a hard way to start.  Beat the Clock would have been a better choice but I'm sure they wanted to capture the audience with Price.

I think it's clear that what we are used to in daytime is a "well oiled machine."
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: whinbaby on June 01, 2006, 07:28:19 PM
GSM #1

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Joe Capitano wrote: LESLIE NIELSEN ("Police Squad", "Airplane")

Speaking of Airplane!, here's one of Leslie's lines:  "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley!"

Showcase #1
O.W. Lee Patio Set - $5,850
Bull Power Q - $4,864       
Jacuzzi J365 Hot Tub - $11,148    
Sea Doo Sportster Boat - $15,499
Trip to Sydney, Australia - and this is a first...I actually went to lastminutetravel.com to find the price, and the highest price I could find is $6,307.

Showcase #2
Deutsch Wurlitzer One More Time CD Jukebox - $8,995
(Namco) Ms. Pac Man/Galaga Video Arcade Game - $3,000
1966 Ford Mustang - $26,225
2006 Ford Mustang GT - $23,940

Modeling Report for the Gameshow Marathon: TPIR (May 31, 2006)
We don't want to forget the modeling totals in Game Show Marathon.

Shane Stirling
Total - $51,208
Won - $37,038 (72.33%)
Lost - $14,170 (27.67%)
Record - 4-3

Lanisha Cole
Total - $96,978
Won - $7,364 (7.59%)
Lost - $89,614 (92.41%)
Record - 6-4

Rachel Reynolds
Total - $62,614
Won - $40,140 (64.11%)
Lost - $22,474 (35.89%)
Record - 4-3

All 22 prizes totaled $305,572!
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: starcade on June 01, 2006, 07:28:20 PM
Oh WHY O WHY O WHY O WHY???

God, that sounds like it sucked!!!  A whole hour for THAT???  And no Bob...  Oh geez...
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: MSTieScott on June 01, 2006, 09:07:39 PM
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ClockGameJohn wrote:
Showcases - Not bad.  The first Showcase just seemed out of place.  The prizes were improperly revealed (a trip is wheeled out after the Sea "dash" Doo boat?)  I think that instead of using the prizes in an order which would have been easier for the stage crew, they just simply went in value order.

Nope -- the boat was more expensive than Australia. Before the post-production editing, they adhered more closely to the "what's in and what's out" theme -- note that when the episode aired, the barbecue no longer had anything to do with either word. So... actually, I don't know why Australia was last. To confuse Brandi?


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ClockGameJohn wrote:
Am I supposed to bid on the price of a 1966 Mustang in 1966, or in 2006?  Good thing it was a celebrity version - what an S&P nightmare.  I liked the Showcase theme, but using a prize like that was just weird.

It was the retail price of the '66 Mustang as set by the company that supplied the car to the show -- in other words, what it would be worth today.


Nobody's going to point out the gratuitous bikini wardrobe to model a patio heater dining set?

And none of our members wants to chime in as to where Brandi got that really good bid on the bubble chair? (smirk)
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Superballer on June 01, 2006, 11:05:43 PM
The only real gripe I'd have was that they were too slow on the draw with the prize reveals, so I'm wondering if this isn't the usual TPIR crew working on this.  Otherwise, despite the confusion at the end of the Showcase Showdown (perhaps it would have better to play it as a normal TPIR game and let all 6 celebrities have their chances, and then have 2 showcase showdowns as normal), it was a respectable start to the series.  

On the moved thread on who else they'd like to see do something like this, I would love, if it could be staged properly, to see the Muppets take a crack at this.  Obviously Big Bird wouldn't be a problem, but as for Kermit and the others they'd have to think carefully about blocking for them out of Contestant's Row, especially since there'd be no way of knowing who'd be up beforehand.  Another format that might work in the event of team shows would be putting network stars (for example, a team like Teri Hatcher, David Krumholtz, Charlie Sheen, and Patricia Arquette) against cable stars (e.g. James Gandolfini, Tony Shalhoub, Anthony Michael Hall et. al.).  As long as we don't see Rob Schneider and Bob Saget show up--two real weapons of mass destruction that would induce audience sickness or even worse--they'll be OK.  

I hope that if this is renewed, they can get more games to go under the banner; the Reg Grundy programs, especially $ale of the Century in its original format, would fit htis perfectly.  We'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Marc on June 01, 2006, 11:36:10 PM
The Miami Heat were playing for the NBA Finals, so I must admit that I was doing a lot of surfing....but I think I saw enough to give an honest review:

Ricki Lake -- I think it's very important that we do not compare Ricki to Bob Barker.  Barker has been hosting the show for nearly 34 years, and there's no question that he's the master.  Ricki, on the other hand, is a former talk show host who is entering the game show genre for the very first time.  And you know what?  I think that Ricki did a serviceable job.  Yes, she was a bit loud at times...but I felt that Ricki did what she needed to do in terms of keeping the show moving and conveying the correct information.  Would she be my choice to step into Barker's shoes....no way.

Rich Fields -- Like others have alluded to, it seems like much of the announcing was done in post.  It's almost like the announcing was like a jigsaw puzzle, and the pieces just didn't mesh together the right way.  The 2nd Showcase is a perfect example:  the classic car was announced with a great deal of enthusiasm and excitement while the current model was announced like it was read from a book...I was not excited when I heard about this car.  With that said, I can't say that I blame Rich for this one....we know that he's great at what he does.  I think the problem here is the way it was all put together.

The Set -- Again, it served it's purpose.  It conveyed the spirit of the daytime show, and for a one-shot-deal I think it was perfectly fine.  I did not like how the jib cam seemed like it was able to see right over the doors...something about that bothered me.

The Direction / Production -- Fine with it...few issues.  It was nice to see some classic shots come back, and it was refreshing to see some different perspective and angles.  Like I said earlier, the jib cam just didn't work for me here...especially with the full pan of the set.  The over the wheel shot didn't bother me, but probably did not need to be used each and every time.  I know that TPiR has over 6,000 shows under their belts while GSM had zero under their belts...but TPiR prides itself on essentially shooting live to tape with limited post production work.  I would have liked to see more of that here.  Also...someone turn down the studio PA!  It's important that we at home get to hear the music...the studio audience just doesn't need it!

The Celebs -- For me at least, the worst part of the show.  Most seems disinterested and there for nothing more but a little national exposure.  TPiR is about everyday people encountering what can be considered a life-changing situation...and I believe that the same magic just can't be worked with people like Leslie Nielsen and Kathy Najimy.

Overall -- B-.  It did what it needed to do.  I enjoyed my hour, but wouldn't rush to watch again.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: MrPlinko on June 02, 2006, 12:13:21 AM
I didn't see it actually,

The bottom line is, you just can't tamper with a legendary show like Price and a legendary host like Bob.

These specials are a gimmick and prove that you shouldn't mess with success, which is exactly what was done here.

Joe
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: TVC on June 02, 2006, 02:22:53 AM
One nice touch I neglected to mention earlier is the "From Television City in Hollywood" opening announce. I think it would be cool if The Price Is Right began this way. In black, Rich Fields would say, "From Televison City in Hollywood," then a fade up on the audience with music.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: CBSpromoman on June 02, 2006, 02:57:28 AM
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Marc wrote:
Overall -- B-.  It did what it needed to do.  I enjoyed my hour, but wouldn't rush to watch again.


I pretty much agree with everything you said, Marc.

But I'd give it a C+, myself.  I really liked the tribute they paid at the top of the show.  But I didn't have to look at the credits to know that no one from the regular production company was involved in this one, and though it was moderatly enjoyable, I'd just as soon hope they'll leave 'Price' out of future GSMs and give us a good MDS instead!
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: logikreader on June 02, 2006, 11:26:16 AM
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TVC wrote:
One nice touch I neglected to mention earlier is the "From Television City in Hollywood" opening announce. I think it would be cool if The Price Is Right began this way. In black, Rich Fields would say, "From Televison City in Hollywood," then a fade up on the audience with music.


I think Rich sorta says that when he says "From the Bob Barker Studio at CBS in Hollywood"

but having it done the "old school way" would be fabulous!  I'd just request that if they did that, shorten the "From the Bob Barker studio at CBS" line to "From the Bob Barker Studio"  Then you won't have two very redundant lines within 15 seconds of each other.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: The Big Wheel on June 02, 2006, 01:03:37 PM
How about, "From Television City in The Bob Barker Studio in Hollywood, television's most exciting hour of fantastic prizes..."
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Marco on June 02, 2006, 03:34:21 PM
I felt about the same as everyone here....Ricki was too loud, the set was nice..too bad they did not use the turntable.. the editing was awful and you as someone said you cannot mess with success. I watched the real PIR right after to get back to old faithful. The show reminded me of TPIR Live (I attended in AC three times), especially when they threw in the "guess the price of the car from 1970 whatever.") Still it was nice to hear the cues and enjoy the games but I will not watch a repeat of this one as I would the real show.

Marco
who only watched LMAD only to see you know who.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: TVC on June 02, 2006, 07:22:55 PM
Personally, I'm not a fan of the "Bob Barker Studio" moniker, considering all the other legendary shows that originated from Studio 33 ... but I realize it is here to stay. Given that, how about:  "From the Bob Barker Studio at Television City in Hollywood"?
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: asd_2001 on June 03, 2006, 02:39:05 PM
Just about everything I could possibly say regarding this special has already been covered by others.  This special reminded me of why I generally DON'T watch celebrity-themed programs (i.e. The Surreal Life on VH1) and I don't put most celebrities on pedestals.  In general, when celebrities get on these shows, they act so incredibly fake.  One of TPIR's most appealing qualities is its REAL contestants, and that's not something we saw in this special.

A couple of other points:

- Paige Davis will probably always be best known for her work on "Trading Spaces" (which is why she was introduced as being from that program).  But, she hasn't been hosting the show for at least a year now.  (With Trading Spaces' declining ratings, they went to a "hostless" format a while back.  The ratings still haven't improved.)

- A CBS Entertainment press release, posted at the link below, states that the TPIR GSM was a "special preview".  They consider the LMAD GSM to be the "official time period premiere".

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/pr.aspx?id=20060601cbs01
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: gshowguy on June 04, 2006, 11:39:31 AM
What did I think? Well, I kept channel surfing, but I saw a lot of the TPiR episode of Game$how Marathon to give a review:

The host - Ricki wasn't bad, but not good either. She really needs to calm down by the end of the Marathon. Plus, it felt like she only wanted to do the show just to hang out with the celebs.

The announcer - Rich was still great, as he is on the daytime show (thank god we didn't get Daniel Rosen!).

The set - I unfortunately expected them to use the current set rather than go with a replica of the 1983-2002 set, a replica of the 80s set would've been better.

Camera shots - Way too cool. And hey, they got the SS arrow back! :-) (I actually expected the SS arrow to appear on the special, but not in green without a black background)

Format - I thought it was all right. Like everyone else on this board said, it would've been better if the top two scorers in their pricing games went on to the showcases rather than just use the wheel (I thought I was watching an episode of one of the European TPiRs for a second!). And when Kathy lost Hole-in-One, I myself thought, "THEY ONLY GET ONE SHOT?!", but then again, someone on Invision did say that she did do a second putt, but that was edited out, which is a BIIIIIIIIG mistake, in my opinion (and pretty much everyone else's).

The celebrities weren't too bad, but they could've done better.

Overall: B-. Not bad, but I'll take double-B over Ricki any day. Like I always say, if it ain't broken, don't fix it!

At least the other specials will be better (hopefully!).

That's my two cents worth.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: Joe_Capitano on June 05, 2006, 01:13:20 PM
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TVC wrote: Personally, I'm not a fan of the "Bob Barker Studio" moniker, ... how about:  "From the Bob Barker Studio at Television City in Hollywood"?
JACKPOT! I've been wanting the show to refer to the place as "Television City" ever since the studio reference was added to the open. It's not simply "CBS in Hollywood." There is only one Television City(R), and they're taping in it.

The legacy black-screen voiceover would be nice, too. Either way, I'm with you.

Oh, the opening line in G$M has referred to "CBS Television City". OK, but see above.
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: TVC on June 05, 2006, 10:50:06 PM
Here's a sample of that classic Television City open:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7wgj7/open_Studio31.mov

(Right-click on this link to download the QuickTime movie to your computer.)
Title: Re: Game$how Marathon -- Night 1: TPiR (Updated w/Recap)
Post by: logikreader on June 05, 2006, 11:10:12 PM
-- damn I love that song!  Thanks TVC