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Title: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on September 15, 2021, 01:52:37 PM
Episode #9514K
Aired – 9/15/2021; Taped – 8/18/2021
Models: James O'Halloran, Rachel Reynolds
Microphone Handoff: Rachel
First Four Contestant Seating: Left to Right

First IUFB: Television (43in QLED HD rotating television); ARP: $2,000 (James)

ALANA STEPHEN ALISON MICHAEL V.
1900 1625 2100 2250

The winner is...
ALANA


Alana is going to walk the GOLDEN-ROAD for

  1. Wine Cellar (Cuisinart: Private Reserve Wine Cellar with 18-bottle capacity; 4 wine glasses, bottle opener, aerator) (Rachel)
  2. Kitchen Appliances (Over the range microwave, wifi electric range, dishwasher, side by side fridge with touchscreen, stand mixer, food recycler, cutlery set) (James)
  3. 2021 Navarra Blue Metallic Audi A7 Premium Sportback 55 TFSI Quattro (3L engine, 7-speed AT, AWD, executive package, S line package, Audi beam, business storage bag) (Rachel) worth over $79,000!

The golden road starts with Good & Gather Tomato Sauce: 29¢


They walk over to the wine cellar:

29¢
    3 0

The price is $230 or $930...
Alana picks $930

  9 3 0
*CORRECT!*

They walk over to the the kitchen:

930
  6   2 1

The price is $6921, $6321 or $6021...
Alana picks $6021

  6 3 2 1

Second IUFB: Air Hockey Table (7ft air hockey table with LED lights); ARP: $600 (Rachel v. James)

DEANNA STEPHEN ALISON MICHAEL V.
595 610 495 550

The winner is...
DEANNA


Deanna is playing SWITCH? for:

  1. Trip to Cape Cod (RT Coach to Hyannis, MA then to Centerville for a 5n stay at the Captain David Kelley House Bed & Breakfast + daily breakfast) (James)
  2. Trip to Sun Valley (RT Coach to Twin Falls, ID then to Sun Valley for a 5n stay in a king room at Knob Hill Inn + daily breakfast and lunch, plus 1 dinner) (Rachel)

These prices are either correct or need to be switched:

CAPE COD   SUN VALLEY
$5196   $6294
SWITCH?   SWITCH?

Deanna chooses to switch...

CAPE COD   SUN VALLEY
$6294   $5196
$6294 WIN $5196

Third IUFB: Smartphone (128GB smartphone with 6.9in display, stylus, case); ARP: $1,240 (Overhead)

DANIEL STEPHEN ALISON MICHAEL V.
950 750 545 1000

The winner is...
MICHAEL


Michael, a nurse practitioner, is playing Grand Game for a chance to win up to $1,000,000!

The target price is...

$5.50

Michael starts out at $100:

$100.00

The items are:

  • Quaker Apples & Cinnamon Instant Oatmeal (10ct)
  • Purex Natural Elements Detergent (75oz)
  • Schwarzkopf got2b Ultra Glued Invincible Styling Gel (6oz)
  • Crave Real Chicken Adult Dog Food (4lb)
  • Bubly Sparkling Water Blackberry Bubly (16oz)
  • Second Nature Dark Chocolate Medley Snacks (4.5oz)

Pick 1: Trail Mix

$4.49
$1,000.00

Pick 2: Water

$1.59
$10,000.00

Pick 3: Oatmeal

$3.39
$100,000.00

Pick 4: Styling Gel

$7.99
$0

LOSS (ARP of the dog food: $11.99; ARP of the detergent: $4.99)

SCSD #1

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Michael $1,240 65 STAY .65
Alana $2,930 65 STAY .65
Deanna $12,090 100 1.00 *$1,000!*

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 TOTAL RESULT
Deanna $13,090 40 .40 *SHOWCASE*

Fourth IUFB: DJ Set (Rane: Serato DJ set with motorized turntable platters); ARP: $1,599 (James)

DANIEL STEPHEN ALISON MARY
2200 2250 1 1819

The winner is...
ALISON


Alison is playing Any Number for random cash, tool package (DeWalt: hammer drill, impact driver, reciprocating saw, LED work light, 2 batteries, charger and kit bag, 40-piece screwdriver fit set, work gloves; 27in work cart) (Rachel) or a 2021 Chevrolet TrailBlazer LS (1.2L engine, CVT, FWD, personal device cable, vehicle care kit, carpeted floor mats) (James).

CAR 2
TOOL KIT
PIGGY BANK

Alison picks 3.

CAR 2
TOOL KIT 3
PIGGY BANK

Alison picks 6.

CAR 2 6
TOOL KIT 3
PIGGY BANK

Alison picks 1.

CAR 2 6
TOOL KIT 3
PIGGY BANK 1

Alison picks 4.

CAR 2 6
TOOL KIT 3 4
PIGGY BANK 1

Alison picks 2.

CAR 2 2 6
TOOL KIT 3 4
PIGGY BANK 1

Alison picks 0.

CAR 2 2 6 0
TOOL KIT 3 4
PIGGY BANK 1

Alison picks 7.

CAR 2 2 6 0
TOOL KIT 7 3 4
PIGGY BANK 1

LOSS. Board was:

CAR 2 2 9 6 0
TOOL KIT 7 3 4
PIGGY BANK 8. 1 5

Fifth IUFB: Smart Home Security System (Yale Home: door lock, cabinet lock, keypad, safe); ARP: $508 (James)

DANIEL STEPHEN ALPHA MARY
1210 1 1000 1205

The winner is...
STEPHEN


Stephen, the last of the First Four, is playing SECRET X for a new tiny house (Tiny Mountain Houses: Nicholas Ridge V Series 26ft home with shed roof design with lofts, with $5000 for installation; ARP: $131,765) (Rachel).

Stephen places the free X...

The small prizes are:

  1. Rotating LED Makeup Mirror (James)
  2. 16oz Vacuuum Insulated Water Bottle
X
?
 
 
?
 
 
?
 

$17
$36
MAKEUP MIRROR

$17
$36
$36
X
?
X
 
?
 
 
?
 

$25
$48
Water Bottle

$25
$48
$25
X
?
X
 
?
 
 
?
X

The secret X is revealed...
X
 
X
 
X
 
 
 
 X

WIN (Total Winnings: $131,826)

Sixth IUFB: Cookware (3-ply hammered cookware set with 2 fry pans, 2 sauce pans, saute pan, one stock pot); ARP: $700 (Rachel)

DANIEL MICHAEL M. ALPHA MARY
1 800 900 649

The winner is...
MARY


Mary is playing Coming or Going for a home office (Altwork: zero gravity work station with laptop mount, filing cabinet, 5-shelf bookcase; 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 32in monitor, mouse, keyboard, blue light glasses) (James).

9 5 1 6 1 5 9
COMING -or- GOING

Mary sets the price to:



6 1 5 9
COMING -or- GOING

ARP: $9,516. LOSS

SCSD #2

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Mary $700 80 STAY .80
Alison $2,333 65 40 1.05
OVER
Stephen $132,334 40 40 .80 *OVERTIME*

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 TOTAL RESULT
Mary $700 50 .50 *SHOWCASE*
Stephen $132,334 45 .45

THE FABULOUS SHOWCASES

Deanna has the honors...

SC1 - Mary

FILLED WITH AMAZING PRIZES
  • Luxury Designer Bags (Valentino: his and her leather tote bags with metal studs) (Rachel)
  • Hot Tub (Beachcomber: 380 LEEP with seating for 7, 1 cooling seat, 102 jets) (James)
  • 2022 Hyundai Kona SE (2L engine, CVT, FWD) (Rachel)
Bid: $28,900

SC2 - Deanna

GOLF LEGEND IN THE MAKING
  • Golf Simulator (4player home golf simulator with 16 sensors, accessories; 13-piece men's clubs, 12-piece's ladies clubs) (James)
  • Trip to the Dominican Republic (RT Coach to Punta Cana, DR for a 6n stay at the Hard Rock Casino Punta Cana + daily round of golf) (James and Rachel)
  • Trip to Scotland (RT Coach to Aberdeen, SC for a 6n stay in a suite at the Sandman Signature Aberdeen Hotel + daily breakfast and dinner, round of golf) (James and Rachel)
Bid: $24,156
Mary
$28,900
TUB/CAR
$38,336
$9,436
TUB/CAR
*WIN*
$39,036
Deanna
$24,156
TRIPS
$22,326
TRIPS

Results: 2 out of 6
Winnings: $190,963
Biggest Winner: Stephen ($131,826)

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Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: GameShowKid on September 15, 2021, 01:55:14 PM
It was difficult for me to believe the contestant chose 0 in Golden Road. Many people in the audience were saying 3, which was correct.

Million Dollar Grand Game was definitely winnable. I would have chosen the detergent at the end (C’mon, it’s Purex! 😊 ). Can you imagine the buildup Bob would have given the final reveal?

Still $1000 for getting a dollar on the wheel. Even after 4 ½ decades.

What a giveaway in Secret “X”. Yep, I mean that.


In closing, wow, they really overshadowed/buried Golden Road today. But, how nice was it to see the showcase winner’s loved ones on stage again?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Wayoshi on September 15, 2021, 02:04:46 PM
Back in the good old days, it was all about big cars and SCs to start off a season. Now for the big 50th season opening week, we have just a 79k Golden Road car, merely a 22k(!) showcase, while Grand Game is bloated to 100x its usual winnings, rushed and edited to heck at the climax, and there's been really garish and extravagant prizes such as a house and swimming pool being given away in fee games.

Remnants of Mike Richards, indeed. Awful production values.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on September 15, 2021, 02:11:18 PM
Name one production you have worked on, or barring that, a game show you have been on.

I'll wait.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: TinoStar11 on September 15, 2021, 02:25:51 PM
I'm trying to recall if we ever had a show in which Golden Road was played and some other pricing game on the same show had a more expensive prize / cash prize than GR's car.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: ooboh on September 15, 2021, 02:30:42 PM
Name one production you have worked on, or barring that, a game show you have been on.

I'll wait.

I don’t want to veer too far off topic, because this is simply a recap thread.

Even though Wayoshi has presumably never worked on a game show before and his criticism comes off as nitpicky, he has every right to point out what he sees as flaws in his favorite show; it’s as simple as that. I’ve never understood the “I’d like to see you try” argument.

Going back on topic, I didn’t watch this episode as it aired because I had class, but I really do think Grand Game was the show’s best chance to give away a million dollars this week. I know Punch-a-Bunch is being played for the money either tomorrow or Friday, but what’s the other game? 1/2 Off?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: ooboh on September 15, 2021, 02:31:51 PM
I'm trying to recall if we ever had a show in which Golden Road was played and some other pricing game on the same show had a more expensive prize / cash prize than GR's car.

Probably not on daytime. There was a primetime episode in 2008 when Golden Road was won for a Viper, and then that Clock Game playing happened.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: SamJ93 on September 15, 2021, 02:33:33 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is today's show the first US game show since, well, Dream House to offer a house as a prize?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: blozier2006 on September 15, 2021, 02:36:36 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is today's show the first US game show since, well, Dream House to offer a house as a prize?
No, Wheel of Fortune gave one away earlier this year.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: pannoni1 on September 15, 2021, 02:39:25 PM
Quote
I'm trying to recall if we ever had a show in which Golden Road was played and some other pricing game on the same show had a more expensive prize / cash prize than GR's car.
 

Season 12 premiere week, where Plinko was also played. However, GR has an excuse since the $24,000+ '84 Corvette offered was the most expensive prize offered at the time. It was won, though granted $25,000 was the ceiling for a prize offered on CBS until a year later. May 8, 1984 was another good example; the GR prize was also in the $24,000 range with Plinko also played, but once again, the contestant won, won his Showcase as well, and still became the biggest winner in Barker/Carey era history up to that point. Those still feel like "classic GR" moments even if not technically the most expensive prize offered on that show.

But for the big prize on GR to be the THIRD most expensive prize offered on a show? I don't think this has ever happened before.

Still, with Any Number in the lineup, we've now seen all three games featured on 0011D each day for the first three shows this week. Maybe we'll finish things off with Clock and Grocery Game to wind out the week. It was cool to see the A# player try for strategy on that last digit regarding the middle prize, but she should have gone high with her final choices.

Still very fun to watch given the anomalies that were provided, and the ride isn't over yet.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: JarodJGames on September 15, 2021, 03:12:09 PM
-The Prize in Secret X is worth more than the Car in Golden Road is just what kind of makes me mad
-22K Showcase on Premiere week caught me off guard somewhat
-Purex is cheap as always I could see why it Could have been the Gel given the size   
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: GameShowKid on September 15, 2021, 03:21:22 PM
-The Prize in Secret X is worth more than the Car in Golden Road is just what kind of makes me mad
That felt really odd to me as well. Part of the burial/overshadowing I mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: HQnerd on September 15, 2021, 03:32:03 PM
Really surprised Michael took that loss in such good spirit. If I had $100,000 but then gambled and lost it I'd feel so devastated and distraught that I don't think I'd even be able to spin the Big Wheel after that. :cry: :-(

A question for the stats keepers: who held the record for the most money lost (i.e. someone won the money and was allowed to bail out with it but gambled and lost it) in a pricing game prior to today? The highest amount I can remember is $20,000 from a Big Money Week playing of It's in the Bag a few years ago.

Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: gamesurf on September 15, 2021, 04:16:34 PM
No TPIR contestant, whether they understand Pay the Rent or not, is ever going to turn down $100,000.

*removes foot from mouth*

I really don't know how I feel about Million Dollar Grand Game.

On one hand, you're offering a 1-in-3 shot at a Million Dollars. It's exciting. It builds to a big finish. It's better than both of the million dollar games so far in both concept and execution. You have a real, tempting chance of crowning a big winner. It could be one of the show's marquee moments.

On the other hand... yeah, I really have a feeling that this is what Drew was talking about when he said "there's a couple of moments from the opening week where I really had to go backstage and collect myself...one night I couldn't sleep thinking, 'Is it wrong to offer a million dollars? Maybe people would be tempted to take a chance that they shouldn't have.' So I had to go through this whole emotional thing."

If you're going to be on Deal or No Deal or Millionaire or Greed or whatever, you know ahead of time and you can emotionally prepare yourself for risking and potentially losing life-changing amounts of money. TPIR is not like that. An hour ago you were just an audience member on a park bench hoping to win a kitchen or a trip, not even knowing there was anything special about the taping you were going to attend, and now they're asking you if you want to risk your mortgage. Michael seemed to feel all right about it on the air, and maybe he doesn't need the money, but... man. Losing $100K feels very different than losing a few thousand in prizes.

The tiny house is... neat, I guess. Stephen was a great contestant and I was happy to see him win, even if it's all but certain he'll only be accepting the $5,000. But it's a little weird that Golden Road with all of its pomp and hype got overshadowed by what felt like any ordinary playing of Secret X. It's moments like this I wish they really had some more time to build it up and make it feel special, but the show was already needing to be edited to pieces at that point. I'm sure they took a second in-studio to let the moment sink in, but we see none of this on the air.

I know --- is being played for the money either tomorrow or Friday, but what’s the other game? 1/2 Off?

Won't say what it is here, but I will say it has been spoiled by the promo announcing Alexis as the new model.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: ThatDonGuy on September 15, 2021, 04:26:33 PM
I'm trying to recall if we ever had a show in which Golden Road was played and some other pricing game on the same show had a more expensive prize / cash prize than GR's car.

Related: is this the first time Golden Road was played for the third-most-expensive non-showcase prize in its episode?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on September 15, 2021, 04:29:05 PM
^I know Spelling Bee in Big Money Week had 4 $5,000 cards won, and was lost, but I don't recall anything over $20,000.

I respect Michael for taking the gamble there; it's not like Millionaire where you only double your money if you pick correctly from a one in four chance, that was 10 times for a 1 in 3 shot. However, if I were going for the million, wouldn't I want to save one of the easiest products for last, so in case I wipe out early, I still walk away with $10,000? That's a really hard strategy to execute on the spot when you expect it to just be a normal taping. Heck, even risking $8,000 or $10,000 on Bag or Hot Seat is hard, and now someone has to pick between being set for a while and a chance at being set for life? If gamesurf didn't pull up that quote, I would have eventually.

I'm just surprised they did Golden Road, Grand Game, and that stunt with the house all in the same episode. It felt like if Road or Grand had a 5 or 6 figure amount won, the staff might have placed the X at the bottom instead of the center. Or maybe the house was sponsored, so even if the 40k tax burden is taken, nothing came out of the show's pocket. Who knows. I just have a feeling that someone saw what Wheel did and decided they could do that too.

Speaking of the house, Drew just seemed completely out of it after Stephen won the house. I don't fault him at all; seeing someone lose $100,000 sucks hard.

EDIT: I sarcastically said in Discord that the biggest winner of this season's Big Money Week played Secret X. I'm pretty sure I'm right, as he takes 11th place on the all-time biggest winners in daytime Price history.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: pricefan18 on September 15, 2021, 04:36:31 PM
I really don't know how I feel about Million Dollar Grand Game.

On the other hand... yeah, I really have a feeling that this is what Drew was talking about when he said "there's a couple of moments from the opening week where I really had to go backstage and collect myself...one night I couldn't sleep thinking, 'Is it wrong to offer a million dollars? Maybe people would be tempted to take a chance that they shouldn't have.' So I had to go through this whole emotional thing."

This makes me think there is another moment upcoming similar, but would have to see. I kinda felt Grand Game suffered from PTR syndrome too, in that it was the 10x deal just cause. Dramatic mind, but....kinda basic for a million dollar game.

Sidenote, was I the only one who had the feeling that given the random order of the episodes this week, Golden Road wouldn't be won like it wasn't? Like....I feel like if it woulda been, this show (which from the opening to me felt like the actual premiere, and even moreso with GR being played following it), woulda been aired Monday vs. today. It kinda made the game anti-climatic for me.
Had this feeling with Grand Game a bit too, but a little less so.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on September 15, 2021, 07:30:32 PM
Recap posted.

I really really am ready for updated calendars because I have no idea anymore if this is 9514K because CBS Press Express now has posted a different show also as 9514.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Wayoshi on September 15, 2021, 07:35:05 PM
It is 9514K, per the thumbnail image link on CBS.com.

Surprised I got a response to my post... I find these dumb extravagant prizes very tacky. I understand I am an old curmudgeon and cars aren't all that anymore, but I don't think these prizes are a good replacement for a wow factor. And it's very likely most of these prizes get declined with the ~30% taxes and all - it just reeks of subtle cheapness in the end.

I actually haven't minded the million dollar games this week, besides them all being cash games (I loved the MDGs of 2008). It's the 50th year, that's fine. But these big dumb prizes few have a need for, that's where I draw the line, and fast.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: pricefan18 on September 15, 2021, 07:42:31 PM
It is 9514K, per the thumbnail image link on CBS.com.

Surprised I got a response to my post... I find these dumb extravagant prizes very tacky. I understand I am an old curmudgeon and cars aren't all that anymore, but I don't think these prizes are a good replacement for a wow factor. And it's very likely most of these prizes get declined with the ~30% taxes and all - it just reeks of subtle cheapness in the end.

I wasn't all that impressed with the tiny house prize itself personally. Consider that a meh from me. $100k+ prize or not.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: ThatDonGuy on September 15, 2021, 07:53:42 PM
I wasn't all that impressed with the tiny house prize itself personally. Consider that a meh from me. $100k+ prize or not.

At first, I thought, "Well, if he wins, he has to pay the taxes on it, and then buy the land to put it on, and that's going to cost much more than $5000; is this one of those prizes where the producers expect that a winner would end up turning it down?", but then I noticed: it's on wheels - it's a glorified 26' trailer.  Here's a link to the manufacturer's page for it. (https://www.tinymountainhouses.com/models/nickolaus-ridge/main-2/)
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Kev347 on September 15, 2021, 08:01:34 PM
If this show occurred in Seasons 37-41 when I was in a much more sour mood generally on the show (and Drew's hosting was also much worse), today might have been the show that made me quit.

Today, in 2021, I understand that next week we will largely be back to normal, and "normal" as it existed even in most of Season 49 is pretty great. But that doesn't mean I have to be happy about this. You can only say "well, we always have to top what we did last season" so many times before you start entering the realms of the completely ridiculous and stupid. And offering a $131,000 house as a pricing game prize is just stupid. We've done the "decline prize" mantra to death in here and I've never been a fan, and the bigger it gets, the more I'm not a fan of it. The show obviously doesn't want to give away the million dollars this week (which is completely fine - it shouldn't ever want to, as that will wreck the budget) so it's almost like it's offering a $131,000 house as a peace offering. Most people will think "oh, something big was still won, so it was a great show", but we know what's up. The whole thing is about as disingenuous as the Jeopardy host search.

And as for the million dollars, have I said "stop offering things you obviously don't want to give away" enough times? Yeah, that.


Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: cvjs1993 on September 15, 2021, 08:11:29 PM
Maximum winnings: $1,488,352+
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: pricefan18 on September 15, 2021, 08:20:59 PM
If this show occurred in Seasons 37-41 when I was in a much more sour mood generally on the show (and Drew's hosting was also much worse), today might have been the show that made me quit.

Today, in 2021, I understand that next week we will largely be back to normal, and "normal" as it existed even in most of Season 49 is pretty great. But that doesn't mean I have to be happy about this. You can only say "well, we always have to top what we did last season" so many times before you start entering the realms of the completely ridiculous and stupid. And offering a $131,000 house as a pricing game prize is just stupid. We've done the "decline prize" mantra to death in here and I've never been a fan, and the bigger it gets, the more I'm not a fan of it. The show obviously doesn't want to give away the million dollars this week (which is completely fine - it shouldn't ever want to, as that will wreck the budget) so it's almost like it's offering a $131,000 house as a peace offering. Most people will think "oh, something big was still won, so it was a great show", but we know what's up. The whole thing is about as disingenuous as the Jeopardy host search.

And as for the million dollars, have I said "stop offering things you obviously don't want to give away" enough times? Yeah, that.

I would have been fine if they kept it to the Primetime special honestly. Blow that out with it......and have the week itself be more high end than the norm and call it good.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: RedWing512 on September 15, 2021, 08:21:42 PM
If this show occurred in Seasons 37-41 when I was in a much more sour mood generally on the show (and Drew's hosting was also much worse), today might have been the show that made me quit.

Today, in 2021, I understand that next week we will largely be back to normal, and "normal" as it existed even in most of Season 49 is pretty great. But that doesn't mean I have to be happy about this. You can only say "well, we always have to top what we did last season" so many times before you start entering the realms of the completely ridiculous and stupid. And offering a $131,000 house as a pricing game prize is just stupid. We've done the "decline prize" mantra to death in here and I've never been a fan, and the bigger it gets, the more I'm not a fan of it. The show obviously doesn't want to give away the million dollars this week (which is completely fine - it shouldn't ever want to, as that will wreck the budget) so it's almost like it's offering a $131,000 house as a peace offering. Most people will think "oh, something big was still won, so it was a great show", but we know what's up.

And as for the million dollars, have I said "stop offering things you obviously don't want to give away" enough times? Yeah, that.

First of all, I’m sure that the million is insured, meaning that if it’s won, it’s not coming out of the show’s budget. Having said that, they still want to make it relatively hard to win, considering it’s gotta come out of someone’s pocket (the insurance company).

Second, what’s actually disingenuous is to say that the home that was offered was a “stupid prize”. Little homes are a big thing nowadays, and you don’t know the contestant’s current situation—they could perhaps be looking for a place to call their own (not to mention, it serves as kind of a cool throwback to the original series when they used to give away homes all the time).

Also, about the house being more expensive than the Audi in GR, I don’t think there’s a hard-and-fast rule that the grand prize in GR has to be the most expensive one in a given show.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: TPIRighteous on September 15, 2021, 08:27:39 PM
I'm shocked that they played Grand Game for a million. What's more, it was so easy. If you've watched the show, you've seen them use detergent as a "surprisingly cheap" grocery item tons of times. They wanted it to be won.

It sort of felt like it just cheapened so many things. Pay the Rent on Monday was super difficult, and it should have been. The MDS million-dollar games required a ton of risk or incredible performance. This was a lollipop that Michael just couldn't convert on.

It made Golden Road feel meaningless, and that was compounded by giving away a more expensive prize in... Secret X? On the center square??

I get that giving away cool prizes makes for good TV, but not when there's so little challenge involved. It just feels dirty.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Steve_Bier on September 15, 2021, 08:35:09 PM
"...And offering a $131,000 house as a pricing game prize is just stupid."

Speak for yourself. As someone that has always wanted to own a home, but could never afford to do so, I'd take this prize in a heartbeat.

I'm not married. I don't have children. I don't need anything big. In fact, this would be perfect for my needs. I could buy a plot of cheap land down south, put this on there, and live like a king.

To each his own, I guess.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: pricefan18 on September 15, 2021, 08:39:51 PM
I'm shocked that they played Grand Game for a million. What's more, it was so easy. If you've watched the show, you've seen them use detergent as a "surprisingly cheap" grocery item tons of times. They wanted it to be won.

It sort of felt like it just cheapened so many things. Pay the Rent on Monday was super difficult, and it should have been. The MDS million-dollar games required a ton of risk or incredible performance. This was a lollipop that Michael just couldn't convert on.

It made Golden Road feel meaningless, and that was compounded by giving away a more expensive prize in... Secret X? On the center square??

I get that giving away cool prizes makes for good TV, but not when there's so little challenge involved. It just feels dirty.

Yeah I wasn't wild about it either. I'd rather they have reinstated the MDS requirements thing for this week, woulda been much better executed I feel. Also to someone else's point, I thought about saving one of the cheaper products for last too (the oatmeal), but it's a calculated risk for sure to do that if you miss. Also woulda made this game even more anti-climatic than it was already had this guy done that and been successful at it, which wouldn't have entirely been the best thing either.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: gamesurf on September 15, 2021, 08:49:31 PM
Little homes are a big thing nowadays, and you don’t know the contestant’s current situation—they could perhaps be looking for a place to call their own (not to mention, it serves as kind of a cool throwback to the original series when they used to give away homes all the time).

Perhaps, but even if Stephen was looking for a place to call his own and would be thrilled to live there he can’t without having a spare $40,000-$50,000 laying around for the IRS.

Unless the show is willing to throw in an extra $50K with the house, most people can’t claim it without serious financial help.

Also, about the house being more expensive than the Audi in GR, I don’t think there’s a hard-and-fast rule that the grand prize in GR has to be the most expensive one in a given show.

My problem isn’t “oh no, we broke tradition”, my problem is that Golden Road has this awesome buildup and presentation and pyrotechnics that makes it feel like a big event while Secret X has none of that, the prize is just another PowerPoint slide on the monitor, and they had no time to build it up or make it feel significant.

It almost would have been better to swap the prizes in the two games.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: EvilChameleon on September 15, 2021, 08:52:03 PM
Was a little surprised Drew didn't mention "hey, here's the first game we played 50 years ago" when playing Any Number.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on September 15, 2021, 08:57:01 PM
How does the million dollar insurance work exactly?  Is it a gamble on the insurer’s part that Fremantle/CBS will end up paying them ‘x’ amount of $$ over a period of time after being provided with a set list of games, prizes and setups along with statistics to prove that the chance of the game(s) being won are quite minimal, making the gamble worth it for the insurer?  Are all of the games insured, or just certain ones?  I have a hard time believing Grand could be insured with such a simple setup, but I’m also completely ignorant to how the process works.  If it wasn’t insured, the budget is certainly happy today.

I’m not knocking the house as a prize.  It’s different.  It fits the times we live in.  We’ll probably never see it offered again.  But make that the Golden Road prize and beef up the Showcases a little more.  It’s not like the third (fourth) digit is anymore difficult to guess on a random Audi than it is a random tiny house.  I’ll agree with those thinking the show didn’t plan for the house to be accepted by the contestant should it have been won.  However, that same purpose could have been served in GR, and it wouldn’t have made a difference other than having a lesser likelihood of being won.  Put that Audi in one of the Showcases or split the difference and beef up the value of both SCs.  Idk.  I’ve seen some weird decisions made this week (weird ≠ ‘bad’), but I really don’t know what to make of today.

Going back to Grand, the contestant was older and mentioned he was a nurse practitioner.  Maybe he and his wife have a good savings and are set for retirement, so the $100K wasn’t a huge gamble in the grand scheme of things.  I can’t think of any other reason to go for it other than being completely caught up in the moment.

Edit: (To quote the late, great Steve Jobs "...and one more thing") All prizes are priced at MSRP.  That's completely fair and how the show has always been played.  But unless I'm missing something, the particular hair gel shown today is one of the more prominently displayed ones at Walmart.  I know this because I've used it several times in the past and have a container sitting in my bathroom as we speak (it's not the best stuff but it's cheap lol).  The current walmart.com price is $4.99 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Got2b-Ultra-Glued-Invincible-Styling-Hair-Gel-6-oz/14245835?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=657&adid=22222222420449455996&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=501107745824&wl4=pla-293946777986&wl5=1025954&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=14245835&wl13=657&veh=sem_LIA&gclid=Cj0KCQjws4aKBhDPARIsAIWH0JVS9U14-4X1_QDOPiADPoprwviTZEaF-NWzmTnRF_cljGQIFiinE_gaAqwAEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds).  I believe I've purchased it for as low as $3.99 before, but it's been a while, so I'm sure inflation has hit it.  That said, the MSRP may very well be $7.99, and there are indeed some retailers who price it around that amount -- and Walmart is most certainly selling it at a discount because of pure volume sales, as they do most of their items.  Not only that, but the show has an obligation to go with the ARP and not the Walmart price.  But I personally would have lost this playing of Grand Game had I gone for it, because I'm well aware of the Walmart price of the gel and would have based my decision thinking the ARP wouldn't be much higher -- certainly not 60% more expensive.  I have to think the show wasn't aware that it can be purchased for under $5.50 at such a prominent retailer, otherwise I truly don't believe they offer it in this particular playing.  A regular Grand Game playing?  Sure.  But one where such discrepancies could mean the difference in a contestant winning or losing a life-changing amount of money?  More care probably should have been taken there to ensure all of the grocery items were priced consistently across retailers, especially Walmart.  That's purely my opinion.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Hag on September 15, 2021, 09:17:14 PM
I guess if they wanted to surprise us on TPIR, they accomplished that with the house. I just found it odd that the Golden Road prize value was blown out of the water by the Secret X prize.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Wayoshi on September 15, 2021, 10:27:27 PM
Grand Game with cheap detergent was not easy at all. You all and knowing your cheap detergent brands today.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: JayC on September 15, 2021, 10:59:22 PM
Very fitting to play Golden Road and Any Number this week with the golden anniversary and Any Number being the first game played. They've now played all 3 of the games on the first show this week.

Ugh, why did she pick 0?! A bad way to start the show.

Tough choice between the styling gel and detergent for the last product to pick in Grand Game. It was exciting to get to the point of playing for the million, just too bad it wasn't won.

That tiny house prize... yeah that was something. Quite strange to have the Golden Road car not be the most expensive prize offered besides the million.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Richie on September 15, 2021, 11:08:11 PM
Those who said Grand Game was easy.   It was NOT.   It was hard.   Apparently I agreed with Michael when he picked the styling gel over the detergent.   The pet food was the obvious trap.  w

Gosh Purex is CHEAP.   That's one hard lesson I learned today.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: tpirguyMN on September 15, 2021, 11:09:43 PM
However, if I were going for the million, wouldn't I want to save one of the easiest products for last, so in case I wipe out early, I still walk away with $10,000?

This strategy is probably fitting for fans like us, but is it common knowledge to the average contestant that in "normal" Grand Game you get the $100, $10, or $1 if you lose early on?  I think Drew has mentioned it only a handful of times that a contestant won the $100, etc., but maybe today's contestant did not know he would get money the first three guesses if he was wrong.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 15, 2021, 11:37:17 PM
Was a little surprised Drew didn't mention "hey, here's the first game we played 50 years ago" when playing Any Number.

Same, but I wasn't shocked since he's not perfect those details.  FWIW, it could've been edited out, but I doubt it.  I imagine he'll make mention to it at least once or twice throughout the season.

As mentioned, good for the contestant for going for the Million despite what was being risked.  As a fan, I'm saying don't do it, given how tricky it would've been to win it all.  One in three shot is not too bad odds.

I was too surprised by Secret X being played for a prize that toppled Golden Road, and then pleasantly surprised that the X wasn't in the bottom spot.  At least it wasn't in the same half, but as mentioned up thread, the prizes could've been reversed.  On the other hand, maybe not, but instead of play GG for $1 Million, just add it to the third prize for Golden Road.

At the end of the day, I think TPTB have done a very good job thus far in this first week.  Nothing over the top, but I think they've done reasonable well, IMO
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Grammar-Nazi on September 15, 2021, 11:40:01 PM
The best part of today for me was Mary yelling at her husband to get her purse after she won the showcase.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: TPIRfan#9821 on September 16, 2021, 12:21:48 AM
Edit: (To quote the late, great Steve Jobs "...and one more thing") All prizes are priced at MSRP.  That's completely fair and how the show has always been played.  But unless I'm missing something, the particular hair gel shown today is one of the more prominently displayed ones at Walmart.... I have to think the show wasn't aware that it can be purchased for under $5.50 at such a prominent retailer, otherwise I truly don't believe they offer it in this particular playing.  A regular Grand Game playing?  Sure.  But one where such discrepancies could mean the difference in a contestant winning or losing a life-changing amount of money?  More care probably should have been taken there to ensure all of the grocery items were priced consistently across retailers, especially Walmart.  That's purely my opinion.

Counterargument: S&P shouldn't let any funny business happen, period. If the prices were valid for a smaller prize, even if it's inarguably sold for less practically, if they could source the manufacturer's suggested retail price, it's valid.

Let's say I were a Price is Right superfan during quarantine, and I saw both the dog food and the gel used in pricing games last season. Would it be fair to reuse those items in the new season? I'd say so. Would it be fair for the price to suddenly go down if the manufacturer didn't actually change the price, just because a couple megachains that can afford to buy the item in bulk and sell the item below retail price? I'd argue no. That would disadvantage anyone who memorized the prices from the last time the prize was used, and not be truthful for those wanting to buy one solitary unit.

Guess what hair gel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LxJLoaBx8g&t=81s) and dog food (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycx0_D1FpoQ&t=112s) showed up last season? If you genuinely thought something was wrong with the gel, someone should have complained. No one did back then. Therefore, it should be valid for every playing, including this hyperinflated game.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on September 16, 2021, 12:51:32 AM
My argument isn’t that it’s not valid to use — by virtue of the rules and S&P guidelines, that gel is absolutely fair game, and the contestant wouldn’t have the grounds to pursue legal action (or at least they wouldn’t get very far), no matter how screwed over they may feel.  Not every contestant is a super-fan, but it is reasonable to assume a contestant might recognize a product as having seen it in a store and/or purchased it, and when faced with that item in their pricing game, they may recall the price they saw on the tag and presume it to be correct.  That’s why my inclination would be to err on the side of caution for such hyper-inflated playings as these — if for no other reason than to prevent the possibility of a contestant feeling completely screwed over, realizing they don’t have any meaningful legal recourse, and in turn running to the nearest tabloid or media entity willing to publish their story to the masses, especially considering what’s at stake here (again, life-changing money...not a random trip or a Chevy Sonic). 

All of that is completely hypothetical, and there are 49 years worth of precedent to say that MSRP price discrepancies have never caused a big stink and likely never will.  But we’re also talking about a game show that is in no way built around a million-dollar format with only a handful of cases where a contestant had a chance to win that kind of money.  Other shows of the million-dollar genre have figured out these nuances down to a tee.  But when we’re playing Grand Game in its exact same format for a top prize worth 100x its usual amount with no extra spin or thrills involved, I’m going to be extra critical of minor details like the MSRP of hair gel. :)
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: jhc2010 on September 16, 2021, 01:11:07 AM
Anyone else think there was at least one overbid that was edited out during the second item up for bids?

I've noticed Drew has been referring to the Big Doors by their color a lot more frequently lately.

The technical director totally dropped the ball on the $1,000,000 reveal. After the contestant chose the gel, there absolutely should have been a 1-2 second close-up of the gel. It was for a MILLION DOLLARS, yet no close up of the product was shown until the instant before Drew flipped the price. Whoever is controlling the really should understand that a close up of the product that is standing between the contestant and $1,000,000 deserves a close up. Or maybe I'm wrong?

And I was again left disappointed when the triple-split-screen shot that has been shown during spinoffs in recent seasons was not used during the second SCSD spinoff. I hope this shot has not gone the way of the dodo.

Going back to Grand, the contestant was older and mentioned he was a nurse practitioner.  Maybe he and his wife have a good savings and are set for retirement, so the $100K wasn’t a huge gamble in the grand scheme of things.  I can’t think of any other reason to go for it other than being completely caught up in the moment.
I disagree. If you want to gamble the $100K, I can't think of any easier way to gamble $100K and turn it into $1M, can you? The risk is worth the reward based on simple math.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: gamesurf on September 16, 2021, 01:30:51 AM
The technical director totally dropped the ball on the $1,000,000 reveal. After the contestant chose the gel, there absolutely should have been a 1-2 second close-up of the gel. It was for a MILLION DOLLARS, yet no close up of the product was shown until the instant before Drew flipped the price. Whoever is controlling the really should understand that a close up of the product that is standing between the contestant and $1,000,000 deserves a close up. Or maybe I'm wrong?

I totally agree, but they have no time.

They have to make sure that they also cover the Golden Road playing with appropriate weight, and the house, and give enough time to both showcases, and oh yeah there's another car game that takes a bit to play, and you have to read the copy for two trips in that quickie two-prizer, and...

I'm sure it was a very emotional week of tapings, but it's all getting lost in the edit because there's so much other stuff they have to cram in as well. There's no time to let any of this sink in and get the impact it deserves, and as a result it feels pretty much like a normal Drew episode when it should feel like an MDS or a season premiere.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: theamazingracer on September 16, 2021, 03:35:32 AM
The producers of The Price is Right are not responsible for ensuring discount retailers across America sell groceries at the recommended retail price. I can't believe this needs to be stated.

I'm wondering if maybe they wanted all three big prizes to be won to have an enormous season premiere for season 50 (to top 40's "four Race Game cars in 13 seconds" and 35's "everything except Plinko is a vehicle" premieres), and decided to move the episode to midweek when only one of them was. Grand Game and Secret X were both set to easy mode, and even what we saw of Golden Road suggests it was certainly winnable by its usual standards.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: JT on September 17, 2021, 08:35:07 AM
I really don't think these Million Dollar Pricing Games are adding anything to the show.  It's just a gimmick.  Ratings don't go up if Grand Game is upped to $100k, $500k or $1million.   I don't see how anyone risks $100K for $1.0MM unless they are loaded and I doubt this contestant was.   If you asked him out in the line what would you like to win he would say maybe a car, a trip or a few thousand dollars.  I almost feel one of the models should have wheeled out $100K in $100 bills on a display to show how much money this really is.  I think people just get caught up in the excitement of it all and make the wrong choice.  Too bad. 
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Briguy on September 17, 2021, 12:56:35 PM
I'm trying to recall if we ever had a show in which Golden Road was played and some other pricing game on the same show had a more expensive prize / cash prize than GR's car.

If it did happen – and that's a big IF – it would have been the nighttime TPiR late in the 1970s run. Golden Road apparently was played during the final two seasons (1978-1980, after Bob Barker had taken over), and we do know the showcases themselves were very lavish.

Unless CBS's O&O had something to do with adjusting the winnings ceiling during that era, it's surely possible.

But getting to this particular episode, remember that it is Big Money Week and it happens to fall on a season premiere week. We already knew that we'd get at least one $1 million game, so it was assured that the grand prize in Golden Road, if it appeared (and it did) would be surpassed.

Just didn't expect the house to be another prize that surpassed it. Personally, if I had won the house and accepted the prize, I'd put it on a piece of property I owned and either would use it as a vacation cabin or a rental house.

Not unlike the joy of winning a vacation cabin on the original Concentration. (At least in the home board game, where the stated value was $3,000 ... assuming it wasn't meant to represent something else, such as a trip to Lake Tahoe.) Or a $15,000 house on the original Cullen TPiR ... or a $60,000 log cabin kit on Wheel Of Fortune in the 1980s.

Brian
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: PimpinJC on September 18, 2021, 05:08:06 PM
Wow…they really wanted that tiny house won with the X in the middle.

Honestly, I would’ve loved to have seen the tiny house as the grand prize in Golden Road.  There’s no real set thing that the show has to offer a car in that game, anyway.  By the way, when was the last time a non-car was offered in Road?  I can’t recall seeing any motorhomes or boats since Drew took over.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/15/2021
Post by: Guint on September 18, 2021, 05:30:27 PM
Both have happened in the Drew era. Last cabin cruiser was the first playing of Season 37, last motorhome was the first playing of Season 38.