Post by: Roadgeek Adam on October 15, 2013, 12:40:35 PM
Episode #6425K (TPiR Season 42 Big Money Week - Day II)
Aired – 10/15/2013; Taped – 8/28/2013
Models: Carrie Kegan, Rachel Reynolds
Microphone Handoff: Rachel
First Four Contestant Seating: Left to Right
Aired – 10/15/2013; Taped – 8/28/2013
Models: Carrie Kegan, Rachel Reynolds
Microphone Handoff: Rachel
First Four Contestant Seating: Left to Right
First IUFB: Countertop Appliances (Aroma: 8-piece collection); ARP: $540 (Carrie)
| PAULETTE | RICHARD | JENNIFER | NATHAN |
| 840 | 400 | 560 | 841 |
The winner is...
RICHARD
Richard is playing Triple Play.
2014 Audi A6 2.0T Quattro (8-speed AT, 2.0L engine, AWD, LED brake lights) (Rachel)
AUDI
$44,875
$49,257
$46,595
YES
$49,257
2013 Range Rover Evoque AWD Pure (AWD, 6-speed AT, 2.0L turbo-charged engine) (Carrie)
RANGE ROVER
$39,450
$40,995
$41,142
$42,140
$39,450
NO
$41,142
LOSS
The third car was a Chevrolet Corvette C6.
Second IUFB: Designer Jewelry (Eddie Borgo: 18ct gold-plated collection with 4 one of a kind pieces); ARP: $1,650 (Overhead)
| PAULETTE | DOREEN | JENNIFER | NATHAN |
| 890 | 1200 | 1100 | 1300 |
The winner is...
NATHAN
Nathan is playing Coming or Going for a pair of motorscooters (Piaggio Typhoon 125 with 124cc engine, AT, electric start, 2 helmets) (Rachel).
| 7 | 0 | 2 | 8 | 2 | 0 | 7 |
| COMING | -or- | GOING | ||||
Nathan sets the price to:
| 7 | 0 | 2 | 8 | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| COMING | -or- | GOING | ||||
ARP: $7,028. WIN
Third IUFB: Trampoline (JumpSport: 113sqft of playspace); ARP: $1,559 (George)
| PAULETTE | DOREEN | JENNIFER | KAREN |
| 600 | 1800 | 700 | 504 |
The winner is...
JENNIFER
Jennifer is playing Bonus Game for a trip to Jamaica (RT Coach to Montego Bay, JM for 5n luxury included stay at Sandals Luxury Resort and Private Island; ARP: $8,176) (Carrie) .
First prize: Photo Album (Rachel)
Price: $23
Guess: Lower
ARP: $17 (Correct)
Second prize: Five Little Monkeys Jumping on the Bed Board Game
Price: $35
Guess: Lower
ARP: $23 (Correct)
Third prize: Lohokino Crank Camera with film
Price: $69
Guess: Higher
ARP: $99 (Correct)
Fourth prize: Ice Pop Maker
Price: $40
Guess: Lower
ARP: $50 (Wrong)
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$17
LOWER
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← | |
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$23
LOWER
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← | |
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$99
HIGHER
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BONUS! |
← |
| * | ← |
WIN (Total Winnings: $8,315)
SCSD #1
| Contestant | Winnings | Spin 1 | Spin 2 | TOTAL | RESULT |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richard | $540 | 100 | – | 1.00 | *$1,000* |
| Nathan | $8,678 | 15 | 85 | 1.00 | *$1,000* |
| Jennifer | $9,874 | 10 | 25 | .35 |
Bonus...
| Contestant | Winnings | Spin | Result |
| Richard | $1,540 | 15 | |
| Nathan | $9,678 | 90 |
Fourth IUFB: Pair of Bicycles (Pure Fix Bicycles: Fixed-gear bikes); ARP: $650 (Carrie)
| PAULETTE | DOREEN | MATTHEW | KAREN |
| 700 | 701 | 680 | 525 |
The winner is...
KAREN
Karen is playing Swap Meet.
Swap a new laptop (Asus: 13.3in multi touch display, 4GB memory, 128GB solid state drive) (Rachel) for one of:
- Washer and dryer (Carrie)
- Designer accessories (Michael Kors: Satchel, sandals, sunglasses)
- Beverage center (Danby: French-door side by side fridge) (George)
Karen picks the beverage center.
$1200 |
$1200 |
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|---|---|---|---|
LAPTOP |
WASHER/DRYER |
ACCESSORIES |
BEVERAGECENTER |
$1200 |
$3098 |
$2289 |
$1200 |
|---|---|---|---|
LAPTOP |
WASHER/DRYER |
ACCESSORIES |
BEVERAGECENTER |
Fifth IUFB: Karaoke System (VocoPro: Multi-format reciever with 100 discs and $30 streaming card); ARP: $1,365 (Rachel)
| PAULETTE | DOREEN | MATTHEW | CHASSIDY |
| 1100 | 1500 | 1200 | 1400 |
The winner is...
MATTHEW
Matthew is playing Dice Game for a 2014 Scion TC (2.5L engine, 6-speed AT, LuxCare Paint Protection) (Carrie).
1st roll...
Picks: higher
2
2nd roll...
Picks: higher
2
3rd roll...
Picks: lower
2
6
6
4
4
The actual retail price is...
2
1
5
6
6
4
4
Quick explanation here. Dice Game pulled a 90s Penny Ante and ended up revealing the 4 prematurely when the 6 was revealed. No technical win because he can still legitimately lose the game.
LOSS
Well, again we have another limo appearance. Fresh off a trip yesterday, Paulette is still in Contestant's Row. She needs to get on stage here, or a trip to Pharisburg, Ohio follows.
Sixth IUFB: Cutlery (wusthof: 12-piece block set); ARP: $962 (Carrie and Rachel)
| PAULETTE | DOREEN | AYESHA | CHASSIDY |
| 650 | 351 | 350 | 600 |
The winner is...
PAULETTE
Paulette is playing Double Cross for a a pair of HDTVs (LG: 55in LED 1080P HDtv with SmartFeatures and HDMI cables with ethernet) (Carrie) and a home gym (Inspire Fitness: M4 Multi-station home gym) (Rachel)
HDTVS
HDTVS
HOME GYM
HOME GYM
3
1
7
2
5
8
9
6
3
4
9
5
0
Paulette sets the screens to:
HDTVS
HDTVS
HOME GYM
HOME GYM
3
1
7
2
5
8
9
6
3
4
9
5
0
ARPs: $1,725 and $4,295. LOSS
SCSD #2
| Contestant | Winnings | Spin 1 | Spin 2 | TOTAL | RESULT |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Paulette | $962 | 35 | 85 | 1.30 | |
| Matthew | $1,365 | 45 | 50 | .95 | *SHOWCASE* |
| Karen | $7,787 | 80 | 75 | 1.55 |
THE FABULOUS SHOWCASES
Nathan has the honors...
SC1 - Nathan
EAT, SLEEP, WORK
- Oven (30in stianless steel gas range oven) (Cassie)
- Trip to South Carolina (RT Coach to Hilton Head, SC for a 6n stay in islandview guestroom at The Westin Hilton Head + in-room spa treatment) (Carrie)
- 2013 Hyundai Veloster (1.6L 4cyl engine, CVT 6-speed MT, carpeted floor mats) (Rachel)
SC2 - Matthew
HOME, SWEET, HOME
- Living Room (Flexsteel: 7-piece set with 2 chairs, sofa, ottoman, cocktail table, 2 round tables) (Rachel)
- Trip to Switzerland (RT Coach to Zurich, SW for 6n stay in luxury hotel + tour of chocolatiers in the Swiss Alps) (Rachel)
- Sailboat (Catalina: 17' 2" 16.5 yacht with trailer, roomy layout, storage) (Cassie)
Nathan
$26,000
VELOSTER
$25,266
VELOSTER
Matthew
$26,200
SAILBOAT
$27,907
$1,707
SAILBOAT
*WIN*
$29,272
$29,272
Results: 3 out of 6
Winnings: $69,113
Biggest Winner: Matthew
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Post by: Hag on October 15, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
Not as spectacular as yesterday by any means, but we did have the bonus spins and Richard's 10K win on the wheel.
Post by: Swingbatta0 on October 15, 2013, 12:51:42 PM
Triple Play: I was hoping this would be the day Triple Play ended its losing streak, since the Audi and Range Rover looked easy (at least to me). It's too bad it just wasn't meant to be today. But we'll try for a win in this game next time around. On a happier note, at least Richard won $11K on the Big Wheel! (too bad he didn't make it to the Showcase)
Coming or Going: Good win.
Bonus Game: Great to see it back. So close to a perfect game, but at least she won, nonetheless.
Swap Meet: Great win.
Dice Game: LOL at the blooper, revealing the last number prematurely. Heck, he would've gotten it on the nose, anyway. Too bad the 2nd number was the one that cost him. (I knew a Scion like that wasn't any more than $21K, but I don't blame him. It's just the roll of the dice) At least he made up for that loss and won his Showcase.
Double Cross: Tough break.
Post by: TinoStar11 on October 15, 2013, 12:57:50 PM
Post by: PriceBusterXL on October 15, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
THE BAD NEWS:
Triple Play: I really didn't see that being won..............At least, not with those cars, anyway.
Double Cross: I can't believe how uber-cheap those TVs were.
Dice Game: Once Matthew said "higher" on the second number, I already knew it was over...........Guess he must've missed a day on his finance class. That makes him Car loser/Boat winner #3.
THE GOOD NEWS :
Coming Or Going: Easy win by Nathan.
Bonus Game: No perfecto, but good playing by Jennifer.
Swap Meet: Nicely done by Karen.
THE BOTTOM LINE:
A pretty average 1/2 and 1/2 show, along with a little malfunction from Dice, which got a chuckle out of me.
Post by: Torgo on October 15, 2013, 01:28:09 PM
Dice Game: Once Matthew said "higher" on the second number, I already knew it was over...........Guess he must've missed a day on his finance class.Because finance guys know the prices of every car in the universe. Asinine assumption.
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That makes him Car loser/Boat winner #3.That makes a useless statistic.
Post by: Swingbatta0 on October 15, 2013, 01:30:04 PM
That makes him Car loser/Boat winner #3.Again, makes no difference. He still made up for not winning the car (his Showcase was much more expensive than the Scion)
Post by: Kev347 on October 15, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
1) OK, so the Audi comes up and it's really a tossup. My first thought is "OK, that's fine. They don't want this won, which is understandable, and almost no matter what they do the setups will be at best a tossup to an average contestant."
2) The Range Rover comes up. First off, it's LESS than the first car. I'm not sure if that's technically against the rules, but since I think they've established a very long precedent of that never happening, it should continue. It feels awkward. Second of all, they DID find a way to make it easier - having close differences and then having the highest answer be right. So the first one is a tossup, but the 2nd one is easy? I really don't get it. Put the Rover 1st and make THAT the can't miss. I'm just assuming the Corvette was probably difficult, which is understandable, but this is just a broken way of doing things.
Oh, do we really have to include HELMETS in the price for a pair of motorscooters? Really now.
I did enjoy this lineup, although it's surprising to see Swap twice in 3 weeks. Dice Game was at least handled correctly - those kinds of things happen - but he was doomed anyway.
Post by: PriceBusterXL on October 15, 2013, 01:56:26 PM
Because finance guys know the prices of every car in the universe. Asinine assumption.
That makes a useless statistic.
Again, makes no difference. He still made up for not winning the car (his Showcase was much more expensive than the Scion)
Sorry..........I won't bring it up again. Just keeping count, is all. And I never said that finance guys should know every price of every car. I apologize if anyone else thought that.
Post by: Bobby McBride on October 15, 2013, 02:49:11 PM
Post by: MannyCav on October 15, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
Triple Play didn't see all that hard, even though it did have the oddity of the second car being worth more than the first. When I heard A6 and Quattro, I was thinking something more than $49,257, but it was actually between the $44,875 and the $49,257 that I believe most contestants would have guessed. I was rather taken aback by how easy the Range Rover was. Combining the Evoque's Range Rover (and Roadgeek Adam, just so you'll see it, it is Evoque, not Evoke) brand name reputation and the highest fake being.$41,142 made this a surefire deal. Unfortunately, Richard didn't see it that way, and gave himself a slim $146 range to fit his car price guess in, allowing nothing higher than $41,141. Still, I have to believe here that the show was again giving the contestants another realistic chance at an exciting start.
Now, on the other side, Bonus Game was (in my honest opinion) its usual hard self with unexpectedly inexpensive (or otherwise hard to price) small prizes, and Double Cross was flat out mean. $1,725 for a pair of HDTVs is unusually cheap for the show to begin with, and compounding this is that the matching pair didn't even end in with an even number or a typical doubled price. I also had a good feeling Dice Game was going to be lost as soon as he went higher than two, even when the game itself gave him some help at the end (he rolled the four, anyway). Like I said before, strange combination of setups.
So far, I'm finding this iteration of Big Money Week a little more palatable than the last version, lacking any of the obscene game setups of that version. However, I still stand by my previous opinion of wanting a more balanced distribution of the extra prize money, where instead of lumping it all into one game, sapping out a lot of the intended excitement and suspense whether that one game is lost or won, you're going through the whole show waiting for that next big item up for bids, extra special car, or higher zoot showcase. Something akin to the 80s primetime specials or a MDS without the M.
That makes a useless statistic.
Again, makes no difference. He still made up for not winning the car (his Showcase was much more expensive than the Scion)I'm going to have to reiterate (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,22010.msg390392.html#msg390392) what I said before and state that the provided statistic isn't utterly pointless. Like I said before, while some people can't use cars or have no use for them, the same is true (and likely to a larger extent) with boats. As we've seen before with the obscenely priced trips and other junk the show has put on before, numbers value ≠ actual or usable value to the contestant as a useful prize. That boat could be a huge lead anchor to a potential contestant who very well might would have much rather had a $21,564 Scion he could use than a $27,907 :frbs: he couldn't use or has no idea how to sell or what the resale value is. Again, different strokes for different blokes, and different opinions depending on who you're asking. The statistic isn't without merit, use, or consideration as is being said here. This very place is about discussing shows and what happens in them, and the various bits of different information in them. Some people have different viewpoints, specialized interests, and ways of looking at things, and that's the entire point of discussing shows here, and what makes it so interesting. Now, I know that being on the show isn't all about prizes and some of it is the experience, and so on and so forth, but winning prizes you can use is a longstanding part of the show, and, well, car loser/boat winner #3. It's just not that complicated to me.
Sorry..........I won't bring it up again. Just keeping count, is all.You have nothing to apologize for. You made a perfectly valid observation about the season thus far while discussing the show in the appropriate thread. There's no realistic reason for what you said getting on anyone's nerves or being annoying.
Post by: goldroadfanatic on October 15, 2013, 03:03:33 PM
Is it me or were Dice Game's displays replaced with much brighter bulbs?
Post by: Mallory16 on October 15, 2013, 03:38:15 PM
Now, on the other side, Bonus Game was (in my honest opinion) its usual hard self with unexpectedly inexpensive (or otherwise hard to price) small prizes
The small prizes being hard doesn't really matter, as long as the one next to the bonus window is easy, though.
Post by: crazypackersfan on October 15, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
The thing about this "Big Money Week" is that all the air is sucked out of the show as soon as the "Big Money" game is over. In fact, it's as if the Showcases are even a disappointment in comparison to the "Big Money" game being lost. What has made the show successful for so long is the Showcases always being the best prizes and thus the thing you look forward to the most. I turned the show off after the 6th pricing game yesterday, though I stuck it out today.
I don't think the "Big Money Week" is a bad idea, I just think if you're going to bust the budget, go all-out with a "Big Money" game in each half as well as two nice showcases.
Post by: dconnary on October 15, 2013, 04:02:33 PM
Post by: Cartboy on October 15, 2013, 05:27:55 PM
Not too bad overall, IMHO.
Post by: Hag on October 15, 2013, 05:31:18 PM
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The thing about this "Big Money Week" is that all the air is sucked out of the show as soon as the "Big Money" game is over.
I agree. It wasn't so bad yesterday because we had a win in 1/2 Off, but after Triple Play was lost it's kind of like "Back to the routine stuff."
Post by: dad90 on October 15, 2013, 05:45:14 PM
Blessing: Technical error at the last number, and the player rolled that number anyway. (What are the odds of that?)
Curse: Of course, the first dice roll is 2. Player goes higher, and guess what? A "1" shows up. And my reaction is this:
As for Triple Play, they should've gone for the Range Rover first, then the Audi, and then the Chevy Corvette.
Double Cross: The HDTVs couldn't be THAT cheap, could they?
As for Swap Meet, Bonus Game, and Coming or Going, great wins all around. The Bonus Game usually has the BONUS either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. Chances for the 4th are really small.
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Post by: WilliamPorygon on October 15, 2013, 05:57:58 PM
Technical error at the last number, and the player rolled that number anyway. (What are the odds of that?)
1 in 6? :-P
I'm kind of curious if the error was related to their automating the sound effects. When the 6 was rolled the bells went off to indicate it was right (albeit somewhat muted) before Drew asked, and he didn't seem to notice so they had to sound them again. It wouldn't surprise me if the board operator was trying to turn the 6 off and back on or something, and inadvertently revealed the last number to make the bells ring again instead.
Post by: Kyle on October 15, 2013, 06:06:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Golden Road, 3 Strikes, and Pay the Rent are all played this week.
I believe the teasers shown before the showcases can confirm one, if not two of those.
It's kind of hard to follow yesterday's show in terms of quality, but, damned if today's didn't give it a try.
I know most people around here tend to like Golden Road or 3 Strikes more as far as "The Big 3" go, but, Triple Play might be my favorite out of them so I was happy to see it crop up. I believe those were also the most expensive cars ever offered in the game, as well. Even though the second car was more expensive than the first, it was crying out for the $41,142 to be chosen; the other two prices looked too cheap. I am pleased that Mike Richards is on the record of wanting to play this game more often, so, hopefully we'll see Triple Play again sooner rather than later.
Coming or Going may as well have been called "Do the Math" today as it was mathematically impossible for the right price of both motorscooters to be $8,207 with all prices being rounded to the nearest dollar.
Nice to see Bonus Game make an appearance. The fake prices were fair today.
Swap Meet shocked me, in that, I didn't want to yell things at George for acting goofy during the game. If he could just stay like he was during this game in future appearances, I wouldn't have a problem with him participating.
Dice Game was interesting... having missed a large number of shows in the past couple of years, I'm curious when the last time a techincal foul-up like that remained a part of the show. I had a feeling the second number was going to be a 1, though. $23,000+ seemed too expensive.
Double Cross was a shocker. Perhaps I'm too used to seeing the 3D TVs, but, I thought there was no way two LED TVs of that size would be only $1,725.
The Big Wheel has been heating up this week, so far. $13,000 given away inside of two days isn't bad at all.
Post by: GuyWithFace on October 15, 2013, 06:11:41 PM
"Again, I love it when the show tries to do something they think is really awesome and something totally different ends up upstaging it. Triple Play for such large cars wasn't nearly as fun to watch as a Dice Game playing where a roll is rendered completely pointless due to a glitch."
:-D
What has made the show successful for so long is the Showcases always being the best prizes and thus the thing you look forward to the most....No, the entire show is why the show has been successful for so long. Further, the Showcases were always meant to be about winning more prizes -- not the best, and most certainly not the biggest.
Post by: sideshowPA on October 15, 2013, 06:23:59 PM
Triple Play for such large cars wasn't nearly as fun to watch as a Dice Game playing where a roll is rendered completely pointless due to a glitch.
Be careful what you (or through channeling Steve) choose to praise about the show. Mike and the gang will start "scripting" glitches.
Post by: GuyWithFace on October 15, 2013, 06:35:49 PM
Be careful what you (or through channeling Steve) choose to praise about the show.I was speaking for myself, but given what Mr. Gavazzi said about the show that aired yesterday I felt it appropriate to try and predict what he would say. ;-)
[...or else] Mike and the gang will start "scripting" glitches.Oh, most certainly for all that is sacred no. In that case, I apologize for my comments.
Post by: Torgo on October 15, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
Sorry..........I won't bring it up again.
Don't do that. All because I don't agree with some things you say doesn't make you wrong. That's discussion.
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on October 15, 2013, 07:20:58 PM
Good follow up to yesterday, although I haven't seen the entire show. Can't wait to see what extravagancies tomorrow will bring!
Post by: SonicWhammy on October 15, 2013, 07:35:18 PM
Triple Play: I was calling it out to my wife on the Range Rover. With only $147 in difference between those top two prices, it made no sense to go with the lower one. We should have had a chance to try for the Corvette with that setup. Though I'll bet that some of you were probably thinking "Oh, it's $41,000! They're doing the Gas Money trick again!"
Coming Or Going: I was so happy that someone paid attention to the math on this one. I just smack my head every time someone's offered a pair of something in a two-price game like this or Side By Side and they pick the price that ends in an odd number. Not today.
Dice Game: Couldn't have had that glitch work out better. When's the last time we had any type of tech bug like that in any game, actually? Sadly, in spite of that, I saw trouble too when that first 2 was rolled. That's really one for the LFAT crowd to get, but the average audience will play the odds every time.
Double Cross: No sooner was I praising the Pair O' Prizes Rule than this comes along. Not only does she pick a price with an odd ending for the TV's, but the right answer IS an odd? And a cheap one at that. A rare Double Whammy here, and now my head just hurts.
In spite of that, I still don't buy into the argument of "evil" setups for games. Everything's winnable, you just know it or you don't, sometimes. So trust your instincts, but also (usually) trust the math.
Post by: Off_trak on October 15, 2013, 08:03:23 PM
Triple Play could have just as easily been setup with just one expensive car, and the rest of the budget spent elsewhere.
Yes, but the 3 cars already exist in their inventory, so it made for a thrilling sight. And for it to fit within the confines of their definition of "Big Money", the 'Vette would have had to been a top tier model ($70,000+), to go along with two "cheaper" vehicles. So no matter how you do the math, they probably would have ended up offering the same dollar value, more or less. With the loss, they'll all pop up individually sometime during the rest of the season.
Post by: TheBigAK on October 15, 2013, 08:06:08 PM
I think they wanted to get to that 3rd car.
Post by: PriceBusterXL on October 15, 2013, 08:18:35 PM
Don't do that. All because I don't agree with some things you say doesn't make you wrong. That's discussion.I understand. Well, it's not like I was bashing on those who lost on car games and end up with boats...........There have been many contestants on have been in the same outcome as Matthew.
And as far as MannyCav go, I totally agree with him. If someone doesn't win a car and ends up with a boat, I really can't tell if that person really does want the boat for obvious reasons (i.e. fishing trips, lake parties, beach parties, etc.) or if he can just take it back or sell it.
While Matthew may have won more than the Scion with the boat, I really don't know if he has any use for it. But hey, agree to disagree, as I say.
Post by: wildbill0962 on October 15, 2013, 08:48:05 PM
Always fun to see Dice Game, but unfortunately the first die didn't roll in his favor. The near tech win was pretty funny, but rolling a 4 was quite ironic, which took care of the tech win, altogether.
Here's hoping things keep pointing up as the week continues.
Post by: therealcu2010 on October 15, 2013, 09:00:45 PM
Is it me or were Dice Game's displays replaced with much brighter bulbs?
It looked brighter to me too, so it's not just you.
Of course, after the technical glitch today, you watch, they'll take and replace the last remaining SportsType displays on the show with a boring monitor. :)
Post by: TPIRighteous on October 15, 2013, 09:09:35 PM
The near tech win was pretty funny, but rolling a 4 was quite ironic, which took care of the tech win, altogether.
As Adam said in the recap, it would not have been a technical win. The game was already lost when Matthew said the second number was higher than 2.
Coming or Going may as well have been called "Do the Math" today as it was mathematically impossible for the right price of both motorscooters to be $8,207 with all prices being rounded to the nearest dollar.
Double Cross was a shocker. Perhaps I'm too used to seeing the 3D TVs, but, I thought there was no way two LED TVs of that size would be only $1,725.
Do you see what I'm getting at here? :lol:
In fact, Double Cross had me fooled expressly because of the 5. Did I miss some throw-in here that made the price odd?
Post by: PriceFan07 on October 15, 2013, 09:43:08 PM
Post by: MannyCav on October 15, 2013, 11:14:28 PM
Triple Play: I was calling it out to my wife on the Range Rover. With only $147 in difference between those top two prices, it made no sense to go with the lower one. We should have had a chance to try for the Corvette with that setup. Though I'll bet that some of you were probably thinking "Oh, it's $41,000! They're doing the Gas Money trick again!"Am I interpreting this wording correctly in reading that you're Triple Play Richard? :-)
In spite of that, I still don't buy into the argument of "evil" setups for games. Everything's winnable, you just know it or you don't, sometimes. So trust your instincts, but also (usually) trust the math.I must respectfully disagree with this statement. In no other game than Pay the Rent is this more exaggerated where some contestants can get stuck with as few as one winning combination, while others can have considerably more (like last season's big money week (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,21300.msg376901.html#msg376901) playing with ten). You yourself repeated what I (and maybe others) pointed out about today's Double Cross playing with a very unusually inexpensive pair of HDTVs that didn't even end with an even number. Those here that have been watching the show for years and had the privilege of contact with those that worked on the show know that even before there was a Mike Richards on the show, they were very skilled with being able to balance the show's budget by carefully staging pricing game, showcase, and other setups to favor less wins when needed, and to relax those setups when this was either no longer a concern or more wins were desired. Now, of course, things can and do go occasionally go wild in this direction. Those here in the know know that calculated or, if you prefer, evil, game setups are a present fact of life on the show. That doesn't mean those games aren't impossible to win or not winnable. That just means that they can be set up to be not very winnable by less informed (or even informed) contestants if that's what the show wants for that time and place.
I'm a little confused as to why some people are blaming Mike for the Triple Play loss. We don't have any idea what the prices would've been for the Corvette (they also could've been fairly easy - we'll never know!) and it was never more clear in the history of Triple Play that the contestant should've at least made it to the third car. I was actually a little excited when I seen the prices because it was so obvious what the right choice was.I agree--that was a part of my first post. Triple Play, like yesterday's first game of Half Off, was about as plain and easy a setup as you could hope for under these circumstances.
Post by: Kyle on October 15, 2013, 11:53:44 PM
Do you see what I'm getting at here? :lol:
In fact, Double Cross had me fooled expressly because of the 5. Did I miss some throw-in here that made the price odd?
Yes, that does seem a bit strange... the only explanation I can offer is one of the TVs being slightly different than the other, but I can't see that being the case. In fact, the second the right prices lit up after Double Cross was over (after I made a WTF? face), I half expected that in the next segment Drew would announce there was a problem and the wrong price was lit up.
Maybe one of the TV remotes came with batteries and the other didn't? :P
Post by: MannyCav on October 16, 2013, 12:03:23 AM
In fact, the second the right prices lit up after Double Cross was over (after I made a WTF? face), I half expected that in the next segment Drew would announce there was a problem and the wrong price was lit up.You're not the only one that was doing something like this. :? While I did have my eyes peeled on the credits roll for a typed announcement, I suspected that they did their research on the TVs and got the price they wanted.
Post by: GameShowKid on October 16, 2013, 12:49:51 AM
With the way things currently stand, no more "Bonus Game! Yay!" from me. :-(
Post by: htmlcc92 on October 16, 2013, 02:25:29 AM
Other than that, I really enjoyed the show today, even though Triple Play wasn't won. I always enjoy seeing Dice Game show up, and a blooper makes it nice every now and then. I do hope that it was just a one or two time thing where they don't have Bonus Game's turntable reveal, because it sounds weird to me seeing the prize described and saying "A bonus worth $X,XXX" without seeing that the contestant will be playing Bonus Game beforehand.
Post by: SteveGavazzi on October 16, 2013, 05:08:46 AM
Incidentally, it bothers me that the second car in Triple Play was less expensive than the first car. That just looked weird.
God, I hate what they've done to Bonus Game this past year. Adam didn't even show it coming around on the Turntable today.
I'm glad Drew made Matthew roll the fourth die in Dice Game. That is totally something Bob would have done.
You know, if they're going to edit Drew's recaps of the showcases out almost every day so that it looks like he's doing it Bob's way, somebody needs to have him just start doing it Bob's way. It is next to impossible to edit that so that it doesn't sound like there was a rip in the space/time continuum.
Because finance guys know the prices of every car in the universe. Asinine assumption.
You need a new sarcasm detector.
Coming or Going may as well have been called "Do the Math" today as it was mathematically impossible for the right price of both motorscooters to be $8,207 with all prices being rounded to the nearest dollar.
Not true. When a one-prize game offers a package, the prizes in the package are all added together and then rounded.
I was speaking for myself, but given what Mr. Gavazzi said about the show that aired yesterday I felt it appropriate to try and predict what he would say. ;-)
It's pretty hard to go wrong with playing Triple Play.
Yes, but the 3 cars already exist in their inventory
You don't know that.
Post by: PriceFanArmadillo on October 16, 2013, 09:44:41 AM
Yes, that does seem a bit strange... the only explanation I can offer is one of the TVs being slightly different than the other, but I can't see that being the case.
As Steve mentioned, prices are added together and *then* rounded. If each TV has an MSRP of $x,xxx.50 instead of $x,xxx.99 or $x,xxx.00, then they will be added together, making an odd number, without any rounding necessary.
Post by: Torgo on October 16, 2013, 10:17:35 AM
You need a new sarcasm detector.
I would prefer for PriceBusterXL to tell me his inflection - which he did. It's over, man.
Post by: Kyle on October 16, 2013, 10:59:44 AM
As Steve mentioned, prices are added together and *then* rounded. If each TV has an MSRP of $x,xxx.50 instead of $x,xxx.99 or $x,xxx.00, then they will be added together, making an odd number, without any rounding necessary.
Yeah, I get that... he just posted that right before this reply. :P
Post by: SonicWhammy on October 16, 2013, 08:31:55 PM
Am I interpreting this wording correctly in reading that you're Triple Play Richard? :-)I'm definitely missing an inside joke here.
That doesn't mean those games aren't impossible to win or not winnable. That just means that they can be set up to be not very winnable by less informed (or even informed) contestants if that's what the show wants for that time and place.Ah, there's all the magic words that compliment all my points. I like how you think.
Yes, I read a lot of complaints on the "evil" setups, some of the prizes that were never given away in Bob's day, etc. But I also notice that slowly, those thoughts have started to slow down, and the biggest reason why: an understanding that the times have changed. We've had 6 years to get used to having new prizes around ever since the perfect Showcase. And that's the current regime's choice if they wanted to make the contestants work for their prizes more. The trouble is that you still have plenty of "less informed" contestants who haven't kept up. That can't be blamed on the producers. So can you win? Sure. Just don't expect them to hand it to you with the same 50 or so prizes anymore (though in a nod to the old days, we still see those $899 Jumpsport trampolines every couple weeks :P).
In the midst of all this, yes, there is that disgusting Pay the Rent debacle. What I said last year about it still stands. That period where they intentionally went from one winning combination to as many as ten was abominable. If I was a former player, I'd be extremely ticked off.
Moral of all this: I take Price for what it is, as I always have, and I enjoy it, as I always have.
Post by: JokerFan on October 16, 2013, 09:57:28 PM
I'm definitely missing an inside joke here.He's asking if you are the Richard that played Triple Play on stage. I believe it was when you typed "I was calling it out to my wife on the Range Rover" that led him to believe you are Richard.
Post by: MannyCav on October 16, 2013, 10:18:01 PM
He's asking if you are the Richard that played Triple Play on stage. I believe it was when you typed "I was calling it out to my wife on the Range Rover" that led him to believe you are Richard.That combined with, "We should have had a chance to try for the Corvette with that setup."
Ah, there's all the magic words that compliment all my points. I like how you think.I'm not entirely sure what you mean here, though it comes across as a compliment, so I don't want to look the other way from that.
Yes, I read a lot of complaints on the "evil" setups, some of the prizes that were never given away in Bob's day, etc. But I also notice that slowly, those thoughts have started to slow down, and the biggest reason why: an understanding that the times have changed. We've had 6 years to get used to having new prizes around ever since the perfect Showcase. And that's the current regime's choice if they wanted to make the contestants work for their prizes more. The trouble is that you still have plenty of "less informed" contestants who haven't kept up. That can't be blamed on the producers. So can you win? Sure. Just don't expect them to hand it to you with the same 50 or so prizes anymore (though in a nod to the old days, we still see those $899 Jumpsport trampolines every couple weeks :P).Hmm.... Well, based on the above comments, it looks like you read my post. I made my opening case, and won't hammer the point further. I will, however, add that simply the prizes being show not being ones shown before, or being new, isn't the sole mitigating factor in whether or not a setup is or can be evil, hard, or what have you. There are lots of subtle and not subtle ways to have a game staged (definitely not rigged--there is a difference) to favor a desired outcome. Also, while this isn't the topic of interest to me, there is some discussion going on in the recap threads about how the showcases are offering the same types of prizes over and over and over again (i.e., not new) that also overlap with the pricing games. Just throwing that out there.
Post by: whinbaby on October 20, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
Showcase #1
- Premier Range: $1,299
- Trip to Hilton Head: $5,462
- Hyundai Veloster: $18,505
Showcase #2
- Flexsteel Living Room, which is believed to be from the Dana collection: $4,834
- Trip to Zurich: $12,846
- Catalina Boat: $10,227
Modeling Totals: October 15, 2013 (OSAD 9/27)
Highs and lows among shows for the OSAD in previous years
High: $82,861 (9/27/2001)
Low: $11,638 (9/27/2006)
Rachel Reynolds
Total: 11/(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/850/7j7.gif)--New OSAD high! (7/$28,252.00, 4/$119,990.00)
Total (had normal Triple Play fare* been used): 11/$89,824.00--Still above previous OSAD record! (7/$28,252.00, 4/$61,572.00)
Cars: 3/$115,695.00 (0/$0.00, 3/$115,695.00)
Cars (had normal Triple Play fare* been used): 3/$57,277.00 (0/$0.00, 3/$57,277.00)
Trips: 1/$12,846.00 (1/$12,846.00, 0/$0.00)
Cash Prizes: 0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
Last time Rachel modeled more than $100,000 in a single episode: December 30, 2011 (Best of 2011 episode)
Carrie Keagan
Total: 11/$95,843.00 (6/$23,653.00, 5/$72,190.00)
Total (had normal Triple Play fare been used): 11/$73,170.00 (6/$23,653.00, 5/$49,517.00)
Cars: 2/$63,704.00 (0/$0.00, 2/$63,704.00)
Cars (had normal Triple Play fare been used): 2/$41,031.00 (0/$0.00, 2/$41,031.00)
Trips: 2/$13,638.00 (1/$8,176.00, 1/$5,462.00)
Cash Prizes: 0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
All Prizes
Total: 28/$249,993.00 (18/$57,763.00, 10/$192,230.00)
Total (had normal Triple Play fare been used): 28/$168,902.00 (18/$57,763.00, 10/$111,139.00)
Cars: 5/$179,399.00 (0/$0.00, 5/$179,399.00)
Cars (had normal Triple Play fare been used): 5/$98,308.00 (0/$0.00, 5/$98,308.00)
Trips: 3/$26,484.00 (2/$21,022.00, 1/$5,462.00)
Cash Prizes: 0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
*Normal Triple Play fare: The averages of Seasons 40 and 41 put together was 41.8% of the value of this playing.
Season to date
Rachel Reynolds (17 shows)
Total: 247/$1,181,884.49 (154/$513,113.00, 93/$668,771.49)
Cars: 25/$575,239.00 (8/$175,824.00, 17/$399,415.00)
Trips: 37/$270,279.00 (24/$186,498.00, 13/$83,781.00)
Cash Prizes: 2/$32,000.00 (0/$0.00, 2/$32,000.00)
Carrie Keagan (2 shows)
Total: 23/$163,050.00 (15/$57,821.00, 8/$105,229.00)
Cars: 3/$82,358.00 (1/$18,654.00, 2/$63,704.00)
Trips: 4/$22,705.00 (3/$17,243.00, 1/$5,462.00)
Cash Prizes: 0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
All Prizes (17 shows)
Total: 464/$2,808,166.71 (285/$1,159,618.00, 179/$1,648,548.71)
Cars: 54/$1,155,762.00 (19/$385,360.00, 35/$770,402.00)
Trips: 58/$416,625.00 (35/$265,780.00, 23/$150,845.00)
Cash Prizes: 18/$553,500.00 (2/$140,250.00, 16/$413,250.00)
Career to date
Rachel Reynolds (1,222 shows)
Total: 11,548/$61,111,361.66 (7,186/$27,432,722.15, 4,362/$33,678,639.51)
Cars: 1,245/$28,167,669.00 (485/$10,470,909.00, 760/$17,696,760.00)
Trips: 1,024/$7,749,575.83 (539/$3,953,037.20, 485/$3,796,538.63)
Cash Prizes: 196/$2,276,227.00 (39/$397,198.00, 157/$1,879,029.00)
My viewing to date (2,383 shows)
Total: 62,141/$339,426,228.38 (38,679/$147,630,251.72, 23,462/$191,795,976.66)
Cars: 6,739/$145,239,830.51 (2,609/$54,917,688.51, 4,130/$90,322,142.00)
Trips: 5,011/$35,050,355.20 (2,580/$17,970,428.20, 2,431/$17,079,927.00)
Cash Prizes: 1,774/$38,454,315.00 (349/$6,367,540.00, 1,425/$32,086,775.00)