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You are all free to disagree with me. It would be hypocritical of all of you if I wasn't afforded the same opportunity to offer counterpoints to your points. I did not say anything offensive or call anyone names or was a jerk to anyone. This is a discussion board with various opinions and views are allowed.

Counterpoint:  You're being oblivious on purpose, and I'm locking the thread.
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Which leads to the point that a fun gameshow like this that gets a million dollar prize to give away and proper promotion (I don't believe the advertising for the daytime edition promised a million) could give this strong ratings than what tpir at night is pulling in

That's factually incorrect.


At least you accept that we're allowed to disagree with you. However, you never addressed any of my points; you instead created another hypothetical scenario with no real-life basis. By the virtue of the show giving away cars, what you proposed is impossible.

Would ratings be lower if they actually did that? Yes. That's not the practical baseline though; that baseline is the daytime show. There are diminishing returns to offering "cheaper" prizes on the show. The daytime show still has two cash games that offer only $10,000, because the show believes that is a good enough amount for people to be excited. Looking at the landscape of daytime game shows, from 25 Words or Less to runners up on Wheel of Fortune, I'd say that's an accurate assessment. They raised the prize of those games to $25,000 and $30,000 in this batch of primetime shows. There is some level of excitement for elevated stakes, but the show knows that after a certain point, it won't lead to significant viewership. After a certain level, it doesn't matter, which is why Tris made the claim

Even if they stuck to what the normal daytime show did with one or two nicer cars (like they've done before), I think the audience would still be into the show. The Price is Right is an institution people love and we've experience a game show boom.

I agree with that. From experience and the spinny star under my username, it's awesome just to be called on down. As long as it feels like The Price is Right, people will watch, and I haven't heard any outcry from the general public about bringing back the MDSes except from hardcore Price fans, who probably are watching the At Night specials as well.
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The TALK Is Right / Re: Looking for Video from 1962 Episode
« Last post by SteveGavazzi on Yesterday at 07:02:58 PM »
I'm assuming the blank post was another attempt to link to the article.

I'm not sure what issue you're having, but if you e-mail me the link, I'll be glad to post it for you.
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Several of us now have explained to you in varying ways why we believe your hypothesis is wrong.  You've made it abundantly clear you don't agree with us and are just spinning words now to try to convince us that you are correct and all of the rest of us are wrong.  Somehow, I don't think that tactic is going to convince anyone.

You are all free to disagree with me. It would be hypocritical of all of you if I wasn't afforded the same opportunity to offer counterpoints to your points. I did not say anything offensive or call anyone names or was a jerk to anyone. This is a discussion board with various opinions and views are allowed.
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Several of us now have explained to you in varying ways why we believe your hypothesis is wrong.  You've made it abundantly clear you don't agree with us and are just spinning words now to try to convince us that you are correct and all of the rest of us are wrong.  Somehow, I don't think that tactic is going to convince anyone.
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this kinda thing is why daytime Wheel of Fortune eventually died out (that and possibly the exit of Pat, leading eventually to the CBS run with Bob Goen)

Which leads to the point that a fun gameshow like this that gets a million dollar prize to give away and proper promotion (I don't believe the advertising for the daytime edition promised a million) could give this strong ratings than what tpir at night is pulling in
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this kinda thing is why daytime Wheel of Fortune eventually died out (that and possibly the exit of Pat, leading eventually to the CBS run with Bob Goen)
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Mostly echoing the point that there was a point where it was trendy to have the Million Dollars be the big draw of these shows 15 years ago, and those specials were all pretty much from that point. We didn't even have them for a while outside those trio of primetime specials and those showed that people still have the appetite for regular old Price at Night. Whether it works better with celebrities or alone, they've shown in the last few years that they don't need to offer a mega prize to get people to watch. People just like to watch the show and the fact that it can still pull 5 million a week in when ratings for all of TV is down is nothing short of incredible.

Perhaps it's not everything you want from it, but they are willing to go higher budget and have shown in even this past batch of shows that they are fine with upping the prizes on the show. Whether it's raising cash amounts or offering nicer cars, they've got a winning format on their hands and they know what they're doing.

I'm not sure this two person discussion is helping the topic at hand. It's not an either or situation and it doesn't seem relevant to dwell on past eras of game shows when it's changed quite a bit.

EDIT: Even if they stuck to what the normal daytime show did with one or two nicer cars (like they've done before), I think the audience would still be into the show. People just like watching the shows and we've experience a game show boom.

Kind of brings me to my next question. Would people be happy if they went in the opposite direction and made the prizes cheaper at less than $1000? After all, it's still the same game show so why complain?
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Mostly echoing the point that there was a point where it was trendy to have the Million Dollars be the big draw of these shows 15 years ago, and those specials were all pretty much from that point. We didn't even have them for a while outside those trio of primetime specials and those showed that people still have the appetite for regular old Price at Night. Whether it works better with celebrities or alone, they've shown in the last few years that they don't need to offer a mega prize to get people to watch. People just like to watch the show and the fact that it can still pull 5 million a week in when ratings for all of TV is down is nothing short of incredible.

Perhaps it's not everything you want from it, but they are willing to go higher budget and have shown in even this past batch of shows that they are fine with upping the prizes on the show. Whether it's raising cash amounts or offering nicer cars, they've got a winning format on their hands and they know what they're doing.

I'm not sure this two person discussion is helping the topic at hand. It's not an either or situation and it doesn't seem relevant to dwell on past eras of game shows when it's changed quite a bit.

EDIT: Even if they stuck to what the normal daytime show did with one or two nicer cars (like they've done before), I think the audience would still be into the show. The Price is Right is an institution people love and we've experience a game show boom.
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You're right. A recession would cause more people to cut back on services they don't need, and that includes streamers. In addition, a writer's strike would cause linear TV to search for more unscripted content, such as game shows.

I believe you are fundamentally insisting that people would rather turn on a TV with an antenna (because if someone was paying for cable, they would have probably cancelled that first before any streaming services) and go out of their way to watch a program with 15 minutes of commercials solely because of the $1,000,000 instead of scrolling through TikTok or YouTube and watch whatever they care more about for free.

If viewers were already going out of their way to watch linear television, there are so many hoops they'd go through already, that the million dollars would be a tertiary reason to watch. As shown with the ratings of the Season 50 premiere, the average viewership didn't increase for the week they offered the million dollars. You have stated what you think could happen (viewers suddenly hear some Joe Schmoe can win $1,000,000, so they will drop everything just to watch the show), but haven't given concrete evidence as to why a recession would lead to more television viewers in general (as again, social media is FREE and it is rare to have television but not internet), as well as why a CBS exec would expect a major increase in viewership specifically by just the million instead of just having a recognizable game show (given that there's recent data showing otherwise). I'll respond again once I see a reasonable argument, but responding to every single one of our remarks with just two or three sentences with your wants and hypothetical scenarios isn't successfully convincing any of us.

I'm going to change the question a bit. Would the show get the same ratings if all of the prizes offered on the nighttime edition were less than $1000?
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