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First IUFB: Wedding Gown & Tuxedo (Maggie Sottero, Joseph A. Bank; ARP: $2,787) (Daniel and Rachel)
All contestants appearing on stage receive a special Bonus: A Trip to Miami* (RT Coach, 6n Eden Roc Renaissance Miami Beach; ARP: $5,882) *Many Prizes Furnished Today Thanks To WeddingChannel.com Chryl and James are playing Plinko! (Rachel and Manuela)
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Second IUFB: Wedding Invitations & Stationary (Storkie.com; ARP: $1,283) (Amber and Manuela)
Puja and Benjamin are playing Bargain Game.
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Third IUFB: Kenmore 5-Burner Gas BBQ (ARP: $700) (Manuela and Daniel)
Amy and Jason are playing Money Game for a Ford Escape XLT FWD (2.5L, 6-Spd A/T, 6mo Sirius, RKE, All-Weather Floor Mats) (Amber)
Middle number: 9
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Fourth IUFB: Tools & Storage Chest (Craftsmen from Sears; ARP: $1,950) (Daniel and Rachel)
Brianna and Ryan are playing Double Prices for Kitchen Appliances (Double Door Range, Refrigerator, Dishwasher) (Kenmore by Sears)
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Fifth IUFB: 32pc Anolon Advanced Cookware Set (ARP: $1,033) (Rachel)
Nicole and James are playing Pick-a-Pair for a Dining Room Group (Ikea; Mikasa Dinnerware) + Bridal Shower for 20 (ARP: $5,418) (Amber)
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We are currently in a situation that I wish not to jinx by saying that the last time it happened was on Couples Price - Valentine's Day 2010....Let's all hope it's 10 Chances 6th, K? Alrighty Then... Sixth IUFB: 18k White Gold Wedding Bands (Kirk Kara; ARP: $3,990!) (Amber and Manuela)
Allison and Jeffrey are playing........ Pocket ˘hange (ugh, OK, still Do-able) for a Honda Civic LX (1.8L, 5-Spd A/T, Cargo Net, USB) (Crazy Rachel's (and Daniel's) Car Lot) The numbers are 1, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8.
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Show Results: 6 out of 6! PERFECTION! THIS
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As several of us in chat pointed out, Kitch must be super mad because he never had a perfect show under his watch (the last one was in season 38, under the watch of JoeCapitano).
Anyways, a pretty good show. I think I was the only one that overbid on the convertible showcase (and by less than $500!).
In regards to, what in specific can el cheapo reffer to? I always thought it was anything below 10 but could it perhaps be just the lowest number pair on the board OR maybe a number pair smaller than the first two numbers?El Cheapo is anything below 10.
As several of us in chat pointed out, Kitch must be super mad because he never had a perfect show under his watch (the last one was in season 38, under the watch of JoeCapitano).In fact, if I remember correctly, Kitch was originally planning to leave at the end of the season but decided to leave earlier than that. If he stuck with his original idea, he would have had a somewhat-perfect show.
Beginning of show: "WORST SHOW EVER! COUPLES? DAMN YOU MIKE RICHARDS YOU BUFFOON :LAFJ:OIAHGDOHGSDLGSG"A couples show is just, at best, awful contestant-wise. Plenty 'o' winning has to occur to make up for it, which they've been better at setting up for this season.
After the show: "THIS IS THE BEST SHOW EVER! I AM SO HAPPY! THESE SETUPS WERE EASY!"
As several of us in chat pointed out, Kitch must be super mad because he never had a perfect show under his watch (the last one was in season 38, under the watch of JoeCapitano).
the host said it was a clean sweep, so that answers that (in my opinion)
If you're going to argue against the people running the show then....well, good luck, I hope it's worth it.
Hopefully this announcement will end all future arguments. Frankly, at this point arguing that this is not a win is like arguing that Race Game isn't won because the contestant didn't win on the first try.
I just wish Drew didn't have to obviously go into the whole "pay taxes" routine then and kind of ruin the moment for those who watch enough to know that any time he does that, the game's been won...
Clarification to one of my statements:I agree. And besides, would you rather have Pay The Rent instead of Plinko today? PTR has never been won since its debut (Well, the closest anyone has won from that game is $10K, but some contestants who played it get a little too bold and fail on it). I think it's time they just did away with that game and be done with it.
Okay, so he didn't actually go into the "pay taxes" routine, but his completely fake "oh, man" made him look like he was going to, so that's what I'm referring to here.
Also, if I'm wrong in considering $10K+ in Plinko a win, then I'll gladly be wrong. :biggrin:
Why, of all days, did Plinko have to show up on a day when all five other games were won? :P
(And no, this was not a perfect show. Drew can talk all he wants about how it was a "clean sweep," but Plinko wasn't won.)
And also, why, on what was otherwise such a good show, did Drew have to spend half the episode acting like a parody of a game show host?
Did Barker's Bargain Bar bother anyone else? Between the insanely expensive trips and the fact that each one was only for one of the two contestants, that whole thing was majorly weird.
Well, Vader hasn't, either, so there's no need for Kitch to be jealous.
The host is an idiot. Drew was wrong.
I don't really give a rat's ass about what Drew and Mike think. I have Roger on my side of the argument.
How does that comparison make any sense?
Thank you steve. At least I know I am not the only one that thinks that way. Everyone gets mad at me in chat when I say it is a loss, but my definition has always been, unless the full 50k is won, it is not a win in plinko. I know most chatters call it a win, but I don't. I know I will probably get blasted for the comment, but I am sticking to my guns on that.
I'm sorry that most of the board and our trusty recapper have decided to change the definition of a win for today.
Everybody needs to take a minute and think about why there is such pressure for this to be done. There have been plenty of other shows that Plinko has been in and the $10k slot has been hit, and nobody makes a peep when these are declared Tech Losses (see here (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,19231.0.html)).
I don't really give a rat's ass about what Drew and Mike think. I have Roger on my side of the argument.
I'm sorry that most of the board and our trusty recapper have decided to change the definition of a win for today.
The right answer is always the same ("No, Plinko wasn't won, so it's not a perfect show"), but it never goes away.
I don't really give a rat's ass about what Drew and Mike think. I have Roger on my side of the argument.Well you know what; if Roger made up the definition to what a "win" is, and didn't at least think to add a caveat for Plinko, especially after its 600th playing (and so called loss), then maybe he's wrong (did that just come out of my mouth?).
Also, why should what the former Executive Producer thinks matter here and now :roll:
I'd like to point out I have always thought Plinko was a win when $10K was won,
There is no right answer.
Also, he was the one who bothered to keep the statsSo Plinko was logged as an all-time 0-fer in the DOB's stats, for real?
Because he had a brain, and Mike doesn't. Also, he was the one who bothered to keep the stats, so he gets to make the definitions.
Then you've always been wrong.
Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying this to force you to change it. Capitano consistently got it wrong because he felt like it, and you're perfectly welcome to, as well. Consistently doing it doesn't make it not be wrong, though.
Uh, yes, there is. It was confirmed for us many years ago.
If you consider a win $50,000 on Plinko, that's your prerogative. Ditto if you consider $10,000 a win. Shoving it down others' throats that how you view the show is the only correct way makes you look like a tool. I see it as just an escalation of mt0708 proclaiming tech wins willy-nilly, but regarding a different point of the show.
So Plinko was logged as an all-time 0-fer in the DOB's stats, for real?
Vader, quoting DJTorgo does not make you right, nor does it make him right. The rules are what they are. I'm not repeating them to force my "opinion" down people's throats; I'm repeating them because they're the damn rules. You can't just make them not be facts by declaring out of nowhere that they're opinions.
Having never seen the legals for Plinko, I'm not even sure if that game has a "Win" or "Loss" marker...it might just have an entry for how much was won, or for what each chip landed in. I assure you, though, that it was never marked as being fully won.
Right now, the rules state that if the announced prize at the beginning of a cash game is not won, then the game is lost. If you change this, then it opens up the possiblity of $8,000 Bag "wins" and $10,000 Rent "wins". The definition as stated is clear enough to allow for this not to happen because it is functional across all of the games.The problem with your argument is that the victory conditions of It's In The Bag and Pay The Rent (as well as Gas Money, Fortune Hunter, and Grand Game) are based solely on price knowledge and, minus Fortune Hunter, a willingness to go all the way.
The rules are what they are. I'm not repeating them to force my "opinion" down people's throats; I'm repeating them because they're the damn rules. You can't just make them not be facts by declaring out of nowhere that they're opinions.I am not saying you are wrong, Steve; I do wish to point out that two of Roger's other rules (Half Off never uses Box 13 for the money, That's Too Much always has the solution in slots 3-8) have been broken by the current regime, so it does not surprise me that the Plinko rule would be as well.
Also, this is definitely not the first time Drew has referred to someone who won $10K+ in Plinko as a "winner". (And I doubt he's going to listen to anyone who argues otherwise, much less anyone from here...)
I should mention that I also do not like a number of the "official" rules, particularly pertaining to partial wins (winning $10 or $100 in Grand Game is not a "loss" when winning only SPs worth that much or winning more than that in Money Game is still a "loss"?). I accept that my not liking those rules doesn't make them any less "official", but in the end, I'm the one watching and deriving enjoyment from this show; I think I can have my own complicated system of what constitutes "loss", "win", "partial win", "partial loss" and "true win" and just not force anyone else to subscribe to that system. :P
^Don't open that can of worms. Pay the Rent is intentionally designed and setup to never be won. It is also designed look winnable when it isn't.
Well now Roger is no longer the producer. The new producer says a $10,000 chip constitutes a win. I already know the answer, and I am not looking for anyone to explain it to me. I'm just saying that you can't claim that Roger was right because he was the producer, and then claim Mike, the current producer, is wrong.
Mike is an idiot. If he were to contradict Roger on something like this, Roger would be right pretty much by default.
(That said, I don't think Mike cares about this one way or the other.)
I'm sorry that most of the board and our trusty recapper have decided to change the definition of a win for today.
Everybody needs to take a minute and think about why there is such pressure for this to be done. There have been plenty of other shows that Plinko has been in and the $10k slot has been hit, and nobody makes a peep when these are declared Tech Losses (see here (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,19231.0.html)).
Is it because of a lack of perfect shows in the last few years, and we take what we can get? This should be no reason to lower our standards for one single show. The show wasn't perfect, and I'm alright with that.
Is it because Plinko is too hard to "win", and the definition should be changed entirely? This is a separate debate from today's show, but it's going to be tough to draw the line. There are other games that are difficult to win as well.
Right now, the rules state that if the announced prize at the beginning of a cash game is not won, then the game is lost. If you change this, then it opens up the possibility of $8,000 Bag "wins" and $10,000 Rent "wins". The definition as stated is clear enough to allow for this not to happen because it is functional across all of the games.
I have no problem with the term Tech Loss, or this statement appearing in green. I do have an issue with Plinko being counted as won in the final show results, like today or this recap (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,19543.0.html).
If you were on TPIR and you personally won $10,000 or $20,000, at Plinko, would you come home and when the show aired say to the world. "I lost $20,000 at Plinko on TPIR, because it doesn't count as a win."If I won the piggy bank on Any Number, I would say "I won $x playing Any Number" not "I lost $x playing Any Number" even though winning the piggy bank means a loss. I believe the same thing applies to Plinko. Saying "lost $20,000" makes it sound like you are paying the show money.
So Steve, what you're saying is that if a contestant wins $25,000 on Punch a Bunch, they actually only won $10,000 because that's the way Roger did it?
Steve, Roger got fired three years ago. Get with the program.
Did Barker's Bargain Bar bother anyone else?
Steve, if you are going to chastise people in other threads for not using proper grammar, spelling, and names, why aren't you calling this game by its correct (and current) name?
It's when people start to act like there's something official about that designation (there isn't)
Apparently, there is now.
I'm reasonably certain there is still not.
So I guess I'm confused as to what's happened. I thought Drew was referring to it as a Plinko win/perfect show because the "official" definition has changed. You're saying the definitions are the same, and Drew was mistaken?
You don't get to use the phrase "Get with the program" when you've just made an assertion this ridiculously stupid.
...whatever the case, it was fun being apart of that show! I posted on this forum the day before, scared silly about what time to arrive if I wanted to be admitted to the show. I never in my wildest dreams imagined I would actually be called down with my beautiful fiancé, much less win the showcase with her! Even if we did grossly underbid ;) We were terrified of going over, and thought we had a bit of wiggle room after seeing how low the other couple's bid was. Funny how much of the thinking process they cut out of the actual broadcast. Whatever the case, instead of still worried like crazy over how to go on a honeymoon, my future wife and I will be headed to St. Lucia! :) Just grateful for all the helpful info I read on this forum! Thanks guys!
Let’s see:
- The sound effects going “ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!”
- The audience on their feet applauding and cheering.
- The contestant screaming and squealing and jumping for joy.
Yup, feels like a loss to me.
I only wish the host would clear up the confusion and say, “Oh, no! You only got $12,000. I’m sorry to say you’ve just lost Plinko. Hopefully you’ll have better luck at the Big Wheel”. (and then cue the losing horn sound effect)
...whatever the case, it was fun being apart of that show! I posted on this forum the day before, scared silly about what time to arrive if I wanted to be admitted to the show. I never in my wildest dreams imagined I would actually be called down with my beautiful fiancé, much less win the showcase with her! Even if we did grossly underbid ;) We were terrified of going over, and thought we had a bit of wiggle room after seeing how low the other couple's bid was. Funny how much of the thinking process they cut out of the actual broadcast. Whatever the case, instead of still worried like crazy over how to go on a honeymoon, my future wife and I will be headed to St. Lucia! :) Just grateful for all the helpful info I read on this forum! Thanks guys!
...whatever the case, it was fun being apart of that show! I posted on this forum the day before, scared silly about what time to arrive if I wanted to be admitted to the show. I never in my wildest dreams imagined I would actually be called down with my beautiful fiancé, much less win the showcase with her! Even if we did grossly underbid ;) We were terrified of going over, and thought we had a bit of wiggle room after seeing how low the other couple's bid was. Funny how much of the thinking process they cut out of the actual broadcast. Whatever the case, instead of still worried like crazy over how to go on a honeymoon, my future wife and I will be headed to St. Lucia! :) Just grateful for all the helpful info I read on this forum! Thanks guys!Congrats, Ryan! It's funny that the Showcase winner is on the thread, yet the Plinko debate is sucking all the air out of the room. I can see why you would want to bid conservatively. African safari on the show are always massively expensive. Along with a car, the other Showcase had to be really expensive. Seems like conversation/banter often ends up on the cutting room floor. Thanks for sharing your TPIR experience on the g-r boards.
Ooh, I just thought of something else to further complicate the matter of what's a win and what's a loss.
Since the purists say that a game is lost if the full announced amount isn't won... what can we make of Shell Game now? Since Shell Game has done away with the original $500 bonus and replaced it with the equal cash value of the prize, Drew has announced at the beginning of the game every time that "if you win all four chips and tell me where the ball is, you win $xx,xxx in cash". So if a contestant wins the $10,000 prize but doesn't win the announced $10,000 cash, is it still a loss?
Can't we all let bygones be bygones and say enough is enough? This pissing contest isn't going to end any time soon and this one Recap does not deserve 10 pages of anger, Perfect or not is was a great episode.
Can't we all let bygones be bygones and say enough is enough? This pissing contest isn't going to end any time soon and this one Recap does not deserve 10 pages of anger, Perfect or not is was a great episode.
I'm not sure where you're getting "anger" from. All I did was offer a simple response to the question that was posed. No "anger" or "pissing" involved. I guess you could be talking about another post, however.
The point of that assertion was to be ridiculously stupid because, in fact, you're making yourself look ridiculously stupid.
So I guess I'm confused as to what's happened. I thought Drew was referring to it as a Plinko win/perfect show because the "official" definition has changed. You're saying the definitions are the same, and Drew was mistaken?
Since the purists say that a game is lost if the full announced amount isn't won... what can we make of Shell Game now? Since Shell Game has done away with the original $500 bonus and replaced it with the equal cash value of the prize, Drew has announced at the beginning of the game every time that "if you win all four chips and tell me where the ball is, you win $xx,xxx in cash". So if a contestant wins the $10,000 prize but doesn't win the announced $10,000 cash, is it still a loss?
The Shell Game deal is a bonus in the event 4 shells are won. Previously, it was $1000.