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Title: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Joe_Capitano on September 23, 2008, 02:24:26 PM
The Price is Right - Sept. 23, 2008
Production #4432K - Taped July 28, 2008

Drew: stage entrance
First Four lineup: right to left
Handoff: Tamiko

Models of the Day: Tamiko Nash, Rachel Reynolds and Brandi Sherwood
Wearing: Venus


1   Trip to Las Vegas (Vegas.com; 6n)(B)
WILLIAM 1200 LYNETTE *1350 JILL 5 KIMBERLY 800 ($2732)
STUPID BID

Lynette from Playa Del Rey, CA plays 5-PUSHOVER for an ElectraCraft 16CS Party Barge (R)

Setup:1 3 2 1 9 9 0 8 5
Pick:1 3 2 1[2 1 9 9 0]
Price:$21,999   WIN!

2   ESP Eclipse Electric Guitar (B)
+William 1 GARY *1190 +Jill 759 +Kimberly 750 ($1869)

Gary plays 3 STRIKES for a Cadillac CTS DI (Std., Elect., Wheels, Tires, Spare, Prot)(T)

Numbers: 4 6 7 8 9

1.(X)STRIKE ONE!
2.(7)3rd   NO
3.(X)STRIKE TWO!!
4.(X)STRIKE THREE!!! YER OUT!!!   LOSS   ($47,986)

The funny thing here is that Drew built this game up as one that takes forever to play, which it can. All that buildup and ... THUD!


3   Sigma SD14 Digital SLR Camera (from above)
+William 1350 PATTY *625 +Jill 999 +Kimberly 1200 ($968)

Patty plays CHECK GAME for 2 Honda CRF80 Offroad Motorcycles (R)

GAME CHANGE: The target has now been set between $7000 and $8000

Check:$5500
Price:  4368
Total:$9868LOSS

SHOWDOWN #1
$968Patty65 + 40OV
1,869Gary35 + 85OV
24,731Lynette  5.05Through to Showcase Round by Default

4   Westley Allen Montana Day Bed/Loving Care Formfit (R)
+William 750 CYNTHIA 990 +Jill *1250 +Kimberly 1 ($1304)
STUPID BID

Jill from Long Beach, CA plays DICE GAME for a Ford Mustang Conv. (Std., AT., Remote, Cargo)(B)

[6][6][5]
Rolls:   $2[4][4][1][4]
[1]WIN!

5   Bob Burns No Bananas Golf Equipment (T)
+William 900 Cynthia 1 JENNIFER 850 +Kimberly *1150 ($2175)
SUICIDE BID

Kimberly plays GRAND GAME (Target: $8.00) for a somewhat substantial sum

(2) Hot Pockets (2 pk)$2.49$10
(3) Ziploc Freezer Bags (15 Gallon)2.99100
(5) Original Louisiana Hot Sauce.751000Goes on...
(1) Capzasin HP (1.5 oz)14.09LOSS
(4) Phillips Caplets (24)5.50
(6) SlowMag Supplement (60)11.77

Two days into the new season and we have our first laggard, and it's William. Mimi has been busy over the summer overseeing the refurbishment of the "First Four" Breakfast Club. Yes, even that dregs needs an occasional coat of paint. Of course, that doesn't mean those who end up there get posh digs. You don't want to be there, but is William headed in that direction?

6    Simon Two Freshwater Pearl/Cubic Zirconia Necklace (B-in the Row)
+William 1600 Cynthia 1 Jennifer *1400 MARIO 1800 ($1458)
SUICIDE BID

William heads off to the clubhouse while Jennifer plays SWITCH?

Heartland Combination Range (R)$5845$6595
Ridgeway Kensington Floor Clock (T)$6595SWITCH!$5845WIN!

SHOWDOWN #2
$2,175Kimberly  5 + 30.35
13,898Jennifer55 stay.55
27,469Jill60 stay.60Through to Showcase Round

SHOWCASE ROUND
Jill has the honor.

SC1-Jill Ashley Logan Living Room Group
Carpet One Carpeting
The Maids Maid Service (24 visits)(B)
Trip to Hong Kong (6n @ Langham)(R)
BID$13,500
PRICE18,186
DIFF–4,686
SC2-Lynette PRIZES YOU NEED TO RULE THE WORLD
(Apple) Desktop Computer (B)
Inspire M1 Home Gym (T)
Ford F-150 (Std., Stereo, Tow, #XLT)(R)
BID$29,650
PRICE33,747
DIFF–4,097
TOTAL$58,469

Today's Pricing Games: 3 for 6
Total Winnings: $105,850


THIS IS THE ONLY OFFICIAL GOLDEN-ROAD.net SHOW RECAP.
REPRODUCTION PROHIBITED WITHOUT AUTHOR PERMISSION.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Heidi on September 23, 2008, 02:40:10 PM
It's the second day in a row that a car hasn't been offered that's less than $20,000.  They're going all out with the budget, a $20,000+ boat and car, and a $40,000+ car.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on September 23, 2008, 03:21:38 PM
3 Strikes: I'm completely confused now. Did they play it once with the original rules and then change them?
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: therealcu2010 on September 23, 2008, 03:22:01 PM
Today's show was...meh.  I mean, we had a pretty decent lineup- it's always nice to see five-number Pushover and 3 Strikes, but to see Strikes lost in such a fashion was just painful, and I think they're gonna need a new Check Game prop here pretty soon...It was also nice to see a couple of new products in Grand Game (although I was surprised that the hot sauce was only 75c...). Overall, not too bad.

OVERALL: 3/5.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Wayoshi on September 23, 2008, 03:31:18 PM
3 Strikes: I'm completely confused now. Did they play it once with the original rules and then change them?
Exactly. This playing may be the last of the luxury era, which is why it's so depressing it was a wipeout.

Not too bad today, but whereas 3/6s usually get Bs, and I gave a B+ yesterday, this one will have be below the usual score. Dicey was the highlight - just a 9.6% chance to win, great! Why didn't she write Fifty-five hundred dollars? I hope that's not another new time constraint... then Grandy was a relatively easy setup, even the Peanut Gallery was aware of Phillips (which went up one cent - lol). Switchy was complete luck today, so we're lucky to reach .500.

B-
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: ChinookUT on September 23, 2008, 03:34:55 PM
Another good show today.  I love it when 3 Strikes makes an appearance.  Speaking of which, weren't they now playing 3 Strikes with the first number given for free?  And on top of that, although they supposedly were going to start playing it for regular cars, they played it for a luxury car.  I believe this puts into question the validity of the reports regarding any changes to both 3 Strikes and Make Your Mark.

5-digit Pushover, and some nice offerings even in Switch - quite the explosive start to the new season.  I love it!
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Wayoshi on September 23, 2008, 03:39:13 PM
Again, Chinook, changes we've heard in August came after these episodes, because they were taped in July. Things will pan out in a month or two.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: ChinookUT on September 23, 2008, 04:13:35 PM
The initial change to 3 Strikes was reported on August 6th for shows taped the previous weekend, which would have been somewhere in the neighborhood of August 3rd.  Considering that they taped the first batch of shows on July 20th, and that first week's worth of shows is not the premiere week... that leaves an extremely short timeline for them to have played it again.

Maybe they did - but I can't help but wonder.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Mallory16 on September 23, 2008, 04:47:59 PM
I don't think anyone has ever lost Three Strikes that quickly since the rule change.  Which is too bad, since it's almost assuredly the last time it was played with those rules.

I don't like the new Check Game rules.  Makes the game needlessly much more difficult.  Anywhere from about $1500 to $5500 seemed decently reasonable to write the check for, which is a ridiculously large range of "seemingly OK" prices.

Speaking of Check Game, they probably need a 5-digit display window now.  While someone would have basically had to have been deliberately Brent-like to accomplish such before, contestants getting a 5-digit total is all but inevitable now.

Dice Game was awesome!  Roger had about the most Dice Game unfriendly price possible, and Jill had just about the worst luck possible with the dice, yet she miraculously pulled a win out of it!  Just amazing!
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Flerbert419 on September 23, 2008, 04:58:34 PM
Wait, wait, Roger?

I know he made the lineup, but I wasn't aware that he was still picking the prizes and making the fakes at this point.

I only saw one pricing game today, and that was 3 Strikes.  It was really ironic to see Drew to hype it up for such a quick loss.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Nick on September 23, 2008, 05:08:51 PM
An advance note:  I only saw about twenty shows last season, so if I make some comments or ask some questions about stuff that's long since been going on, I'm just out of the loop on it.

A question for those of you who get to see the show in HD:  Is the show widescreen in HD?

I was surprised that Push Over was won.  I didn't except the boat to be nearly that expensive.

You know, I really wish Drew didn't whine about 3 Strikes being such a long game.  Maybe if he kept his mouth shut, the game wouldn't have been changed.  Was this the last time the game was played before they started tinkering with the format?

I know the Check Game range change has been long since discussed.  Now that I have seen it in action, I'm not really sure what to make of it.  Sure, it will allow more expensive prizes to be offered in the game, but John did point out at the time that the game is technically now harder to win since they didn't widen the range.  As true as that may be, I'm somewhat glad the spread of the range hasn't been changed because that prevents from getting into the Card Game problem of having too large of a range.

How long have they been using that dice wipe in Dice Game?  It isn't nearly as impressive as the old one.

Speaking of Dice Game, I was also quite surprised that it was won.  This was clearly a good example of just how awesome Roger could set things up.

Drew really had ought to think twice before saying that I had "just missed" the win in Dice Game.  What if I didn't miss it?

Again, maybe I'm out of the loop on something, but when was the last time Grand Game was played fifth?

Drew needs to cut it with the "model collision" joke in Switch?  It's getting old, and I didn't even think it was funny the first time.

Thank God Rich's "prize recap" at the end of the Showcases was only something he did yesterday.  That sounded so out of place.  Now if they can just get back to ending all Showcase descriptions with, "This Showcase... can be yours if the price is right."

I was glad Lynette waited around until Drew had finished his sign-off before heading down to her prizes.  I think it appropriate for the contestants to wait for the host.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: tpirfan28 on September 23, 2008, 05:37:50 PM
A question for those of you who get to see the show in HD:  Is the show widescreen in HD?
Yes.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Nick on September 23, 2008, 05:41:32 PM
Yes.

Okay, that's what I figured.  Can they not do HD in standard resolution?  TPIR is the kind of show that, when directed by an efficient and competent director, is supposed to use a lot of tight, close-up shots, which is harder to pull off in widescreen.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Ton80 on September 23, 2008, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: Nick
Maybe if he kept his mouth shut, the game wouldn't have been changed. 
I don't think anyone believes that the game was changed because of Drew.
(or did I miss a discussion thread somewhere??)

Quote from: Nick
...it will allow more expensive prizes to be offered in the game, but John did point out at the time that the game is technically now harder to win...
I think that if they are going to offer nicer, more expensive prizes, the game should be harder to win.

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Flerbert419 on September 23, 2008, 05:52:59 PM
Last Edit: Today at 05:41:15 PM by Joe_Capitano

Joe, I don't see what I did wrong, or what you corrected.  Could you be a little more specific?
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: BRB_TheFireball on September 23, 2008, 05:59:24 PM
Pushy:  For a 5-digit boat?!  Wow, they are definitely not screwing around this week, are they?  It was pretty funny watching Drew fight with the price reveal.  I'm assuming that new magnets were put on in order to prevent premature price reveals.

3X:  Roger Kathy, has this game ever before ended after only 4 draws?  And to think that Drew started off by talking about how tedious and time-consuming this game was...

Checky:  Even for the new range, a $5,500 check was dumb.  I was secretly hoping that the motorcycles would be more than $4,500 just to see how the technical dudes would handle a 5-digit total. :P

SCSD #1:  *CLANGCLANGCLANG*  Lynette wins with a nickel! :-D

Dice:  Wow, Dice for a Mustang convertible!  The two 6s and the 1 could've caused six different kinds of headaches, but Jill got the Dobstopper Grecostopper!

Grandy:  In the 5-hole!  I thought this was gonna be a forced win today.  Looks like I thought wrong once again.

My showcase bids:
Furniture/trip--$14,707
Truck--$25,807
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: wpghi5 on September 23, 2008, 06:17:48 PM
Semi-wipeout in 3 Strikes, $5500 not a wise amount to put on the check, contestant and husband goes against Peanut Gallery in Switch? and succeeds,  :-P to you Peanut Gallery. Close finish in the showcase, and contestant Cynthia among those congratulating Lynette the big winner today. My moments of the day in my view. That's all folks.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Nick on September 23, 2008, 06:43:02 PM
I don't think anyone believes that the game was changed because of Drew.

No, but Drew's statement on-air today of the game taking "forever to play" could have gotten Syd thinking.

I think that if they are going to offer nicer, more expensive prizes, the game should be harder to win.

But that's not what's happening.  Inflation was catching up on the game so that a range change was going to become absolutely necessary eventually.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: UpsDriverMan on September 23, 2008, 06:50:15 PM
good to see the season 37 decorations still up, it goes back to season 35 when they had premiere week.  good to see this year theyre going all out again

nick, what do you think he'll make syd think about?  also, i noticed he called the strikes the "x".  "another x," i think were his exact words.  it's nomenclature but that bugged me

and did anyone else notice the two gray plates next to home base?  i caught it today after drew got his mic just before they cut to drew against the turntable.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: rob79 on September 23, 2008, 06:50:57 PM
I have a feeling comments like Drew made today were what got Syd's mind rolling on the changes to come in 3 Strikes.  :-(  Stop whining Drew, that's what makes this game exciting.

Speaking of Strikes that quick loss just sucked everything out of what this episode had going for it.

You know it's a pretty quiet show when Dice Game showing up 4th is the most exciting thing going for it.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Nick on September 23, 2008, 07:05:27 PM
nick, what do you think he'll make syd think about?

I think Drew's whining today that 3 Strikes takes "forever" to play got Syd out of reading his newspaper to pay attention and say, "Hm, we should find a way to make that game go faster."

And if a moderator could fix the quote tags on my last post, that'd be great, since I can't edit my post now.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: goldroadfanatic on September 23, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
I found it interesting that they didn't cover the "extra" turntable pattern with the curtains until later in the show. That was probably the first time since July we saw all the turntable panels, and the producer's box, uncovered.

Drew seemed a bit too peppy at the start of the show, but it was amusing to see him make another funny entrance, in my opinion.

I laughed at how Drew couldn't open the reveal for Pushover, and noted that they changed the reveal's magnets over the summer break.

I would really not be surprised if today's 3 Strikes prompted the staff to institute the changes that we will see later this season, since the contestant lost after only a few draws. Drew was right about 3 Strikes being "the most tedious, numbing game in the world or the most exciting" and noting that the game takes a long time to play (although that was not the case today).

Another note about 3 Strikes later this season, it's bittersweet knowing that the game will no longer be played exclusively for expensive cars after 15 years of doing so but at the same time, the old-school aspect of playing for normal cars returns for the first time since 1993.

I loved hearing Drew's bit about the quill pen being used since 1872 again after the summer.

I'm just curious, now that Roger is gone, who is tasked with writing the names on the checks now? I wouldn't be surprised that, after Roger dictated what prizes were offered in the show, that the staff changed Check Game's win range. The motorcycle could have worked with the $5,000-6,000 range. I guess I will have to see how the game plays out as this season goes on when it comes to win rate and contestants playing the game. But as I said before, the win range should have been $7,000-9,000 or something along those lines. Also, with the increased win range, they may want to modify the prop to include a fifth digit in the bottom eggcrate display since today's total was very close to $10,000.

Lynette was fun to watch in the showcase showdown, when she was talking with Drew about Las Vegas and Drew pointing out that she went through to the showcase with only a nickel (by default).

I wonder when was the last time three or four of the same number were rolled in Dice Game? That was an exciting playing, since the third and fifth numbers worried me, and I loved how Jill ran over to the Mustang to celebrate.

I laughed at how Drew was surprised that the hot sauce was only 75¢, heck I was too. I wouldn't be surprised if we see that hot sauce at the start of a playing of Golden Road later this season.

As with other jokes, I enjoyed hearing Drew's recurring one in Switch? again after the summer.  It was also great to see Jennifer win after going against the peanut gallery.

How long have they been using that dice wipe in Dice Game?  It isn't nearly as impressive as the old one.

I think that Dice Game wipe came in on the June 23, 2008, the first time after Bart decided to fade from the car to the table instead using the wipe, just once on June 11.

Again, maybe I'm out of the loop on something, but when was the last time Grand Game was played fifth?

April 15, 2008

Drew needs to cut it with the "model collision" joke in Switch?  It's getting old, and I didn't even think it was funny the first time.

I like these jokes Drew makes for certain games; Bob had his 37 Hours joke for Range Game, so I don't think that should stop Drew from coming up with his own jokes for different games.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 23, 2008, 07:42:46 PM
I thought Drew did a mostly respectable job of hosting today, but he did one thing that really, really irked me -- he insulted 3 Strikes!  Yes, the game can take a long time to play, but it's usually worth it -- it's a good enough game that even its losses are frequently excellent television (seriously -- a heartbreaking loss can make a game's next win that much more special).  I think Roger even went so far once as to call it one of the five best games on the show.  I gotta tell ya, I'm getting worried about it, what with its multiple format changes, its downgrade from the Big 3, and now hearing this from Drew...I sure hope it doesn't end up retired.

I wonder why they felt the need to enlarge some of the dollar signs on Check Game.  They look weird now.

Speaking of Check Game, I really wish Drew would encourage the contestants to finish writing out the check.  The game loses some of its charm when that doesn't happen.

Dice Game was really exciting...honestly, I didn't think Jill had a chance in hell of winning.

The new lines at the end of the showcases are kinda silly...but honestly, they're not any sillier than some of the non-"This showcase can be yours" lines we heard last season.

Another good show today.  I love it when 3 Strikes makes an appearance.  Speaking of which, weren't they now playing 3 Strikes with the first number given for free?  And on top of that, although they supposedly were going to start playing it for regular cars, they played it for a luxury car.  I believe this puts into question the validity of the reports regarding any changes to both 3 Strikes and Make Your Mark.

No, it doesn't.  It was never made totally clear whether the playing with three strike chips was the first or second playing of the season...this just confirms that it was the second, and that the game began offering normal cars on the third.  I assure you that all the reports you've read here about 3 Strikes and Barker's Marker$ are accurate.

Folks, I'm begging you:  Please stop implying that we're lying to you.  We've never done it before, and we certainly aren't going to start now, during the most turbulent period in the show's history.

The initial change to 3 Strikes was reported on August 6th for shows taped the previous weekend, which would have been somewhere in the neighborhood of August 3rd.  Considering that they taped the first batch of shows on July 20th, and that first week's worth of shows is not the premiere week... that leaves an extremely short timeline for them to have played it again.

The shows taped on August 3 (or August 4 -- I can't remember exactly what those tapedates were) would have been Wednesday and Thursday of the third week.  If the Big 3 all show up fairly early on, it's entirely possible that they could start repeating them that quickly.  They've gone four times in the first three weeks before.

I don't like the new Check Game rules.  Makes the game needlessly much more difficult.  Anywhere from about $1500 to $5500 seemed decently reasonable to write the check for, which is a ridiculously large range of "seemingly OK" prices.

Note also that the motorcycles were probably scheduled with Roger's $8,000-$10,000 range in mind, not the $7,000-$8,000 range that ended up being used.

Wait, wait, Roger?

I know he made the lineup, but I wasn't aware that he was still picking the prizes and making the fakes at this point.

Pretty much everything for the first two or three weeks of shows (five of which, keep in mind, we won't be seeing until later on in the season) was already planned out by Roger before he was fired.

How long have they been using that dice wipe in Dice Game?  It isn't nearly as impressive as the old one.

Dice Game was mini-retired for about two months last spring while the budget was spiraling out of control...I'm pretty sure that wipe was introduced when or just after it came back.

I don't think anyone believes that [3 Strikes] was changed because of Drew.

I don't know whether it was or not...but there's certainly no reason he couldn't have influenced it.

I think that if they are going to offer nicer, more expensive prizes, the [Check Game] should be harder to win.

They can only play it for things about $2,000 more valuable than they could before.  It's not that much of an increase.

and did anyone else notice the two gray plates next to home base?  i caught it today after drew got his mic just before they cut to drew against the turntable.

I believe those are the new lineup board.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: MrDeePay on September 23, 2008, 08:13:08 PM
Awsome, the board's working for me again.

Anyway, all I have to say about 3 Strikes today (watching it on stream) is damn.  That was just merciless.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Todd on September 23, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
I have to say, I absolutely loved what Drew did before SCSD 1. He talked with the contestants, told everyone some stuff about them, and it was just really cool. I'm guessing with that quick 3 Strikes loss some time needed to be ate up.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: ClockGameJohn on September 23, 2008, 08:50:20 PM
I believe today's 3 Strikes playing should be proof of why the decision was made during the Bob and Roger era as to what rules to use.  There is no need to reinvent the wheel, here.  (We did that too, literally.)

From what I understand, sadly, 3 Strikes may never recover from this tinkering.

I'm quite sure that the Check Game prize was replaced after Roger left and the decision was made to change the range to the more difficult $7,000-$8,000 range.  While Roger was contemplating a different range, I don't believe there were any concrete plans to implement it for this first playing.  Again, today's Check Game playing should be proof of why formats are the way they are, and thoughtless changes will prove disadvantageous to the contestant.

I laughed at how Drew couldn't open the reveal for Pushover, and noted that they changed the reveal's magnets over the summer break.

Last I checked, Pushover utilized velcro.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 23, 2008, 08:59:01 PM
From what I understand, sadly, 3 Strikes may never recover from this tinkering.

I really don't like the sound of that.  That'd be a horrible, horrible blow to the show if it ends up playing out that way.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: PriceForever on September 23, 2008, 09:07:56 PM
I don't think that Drew or Syd had any idea that because Three Strikes took so long and was difficult to win that that was the reason Bob and Roger put in expensive glamorous cars.  It made the time is took to play the game worthwhile.  And a bigger car is worth the difficulty.  The whole package made Three Strikes one of the most exciting games on the show and one that I always was excited to see play.  Now it is probably gone forever...  :cry:

One can thank Drew (or Syd) (or the new producer) for destroying this classic game.  (Drew has got to stop whining!)
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Todd on September 23, 2008, 09:10:44 PM
One can thank Drew (or Syd) (or the new producer) for destroying this classic game.  (Drew has got to stop whining!)

I highly doubt you can thank Drew. And honestly, he was just voicing his opinion, he's allowed to have one, you know.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 23, 2008, 09:14:46 PM
I highly doubt you can thank Drew.

I'm not sure what leads you to that conclusion...the scenario described farther up the thread in which his complaining caused the game to be redesigned into the ground seems perfectly plausible to me.

I highly doubt you can thank Drew. And honestly, he was just voicing his opinion, he's allowed to have one, you know.

He's the host.  He is not supposed to be insulting his own show on the air.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Todd on September 23, 2008, 09:16:43 PM
He was not insulting the show. He was simply stating the truth: this game can be really exciting, however it could also be a very long, drawn out game.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: heelsrule1988 on September 23, 2008, 09:17:24 PM
How the heck were those prizes in Switch that expensive?! They were like double the price I'd expect them to be.

BEST CONTESTANT OF THE DAY: Lynette
SHOW GRADE: 2
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Todd on September 23, 2008, 09:18:21 PM
I'm not sure what leads you to that conclusion...the scenario described farther up the thread in which his complaining caused the game to be redesigned into the ground seems perfectly plausible to me.

Where exactly do you see that?
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: JasonA1 on September 23, 2008, 09:19:04 PM
I thought this playing of 3 Strikes showed that Drew KNOWS how long the game can take. He harped on it, but that doesn't mean it's broken. Did Syd & the gang take that as a cue to change the game over and over?

Granted, changing it a bit (giving the first number) would be better than dumping it altogether, but...

-Jason
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: CaseyBuck on September 23, 2008, 09:22:27 PM
Don't tell they're considering retiring 3 Strikes! Ugh. :headbang:

And I bet that Drew's comment today about the length of the game will lead up to its retirement...
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 23, 2008, 09:23:32 PM
He was not insulting the show. He was simply stating the truth: this game can be really exciting, however it could also be a very long, drawn out game.

He called 3 Strikes "tedious."  That is a ridiculously unprofessional comment to make about a game you are currently in the process of hosting.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Nick on September 23, 2008, 09:38:55 PM
He called 3 Strikes "tedious."  That is a ridiculously unprofessional comment to make about a game you are currently in the process of hosting.

Agreed, even if we're dealing with big, ugly, purple wheels.

I don't really know how else to say it, but I really don't want to see 3 Strikes retired.  3 Strikes, as it was today, is clearly a format that is absolutely perfect for the game.  Sure, today's playing ended quickly and was thus rather uneventful, but it's those really long playings that get down to a final draw between the last digit and the last strike for that Cadillac sitting across the stage that, really, makes it the most exciting regular car game on the show.

It's hard to put into words just how awesome 3 Strikes is, but Roger always understood what we felt.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Millionaire81 on September 23, 2008, 09:59:30 PM
He called 3 Strikes "tedious."  That is a ridiculously unprofessional comment to make about a game you are currently in the process of hosting.

I'm confused as to when Drew says a purple wheel is ugly and horrible it's OK and he single-handedly saves the wheel, but because he's mentioned a negative about 3 Strikes...it's unprofessional.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: temptation1979ga on September 23, 2008, 10:13:31 PM
Ok, if all the talk about 3 Strikes being considered for retirement is true, that is one of the dumbest moves I've ever heard of the show making. After all, it's one of the most thrilling games on the show and has a classic unique-ness about it; It has provided viewers with countless exciting, dramatic moments over the years, and now there's talk of it going away? That said, I have to ask what Drew was thinking when he called it "tedious" on the air. Sure, he's allowed to have an opinion, but he might as well have said, "Welcome to the stage, you can drive off in that car if you win this tedious pricing game."  :-?
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 23, 2008, 10:19:11 PM
I'm confused as to when Drew says a purple wheel is ugly and horrible it's OK and he single-handedly saves the wheel, but because he's mentioned a negative about 3 Strikes...it's unprofessional.

The former was about a ridiculous set change that was made for no reason.  The latter was about a solid format that's been around for 32 and a half years.  I agree that on the surface, both comments are unprofessional...but the wheel remark seems to have had considerably better repercussions than the 3 Strikes remark.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: PriceFanArmadillo on September 23, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
He called 3 Strikes "tedious."  That is a ridiculously unprofessional comment to make about a game you are currently in the process of hosting.

ESPECIALLY when the game in question often builds up to the single most dramatic moment the show has!  The final pull in Three Strikes is only second to the final reveal in Golden Road for 'best moments' on the show!  The 'slow build' to that climax is part of the thrill!  Getting rid of Three Strikes is completely asinine! 

It'd be, like, oh...I dunno...painting the big wheel purple!  Or Brett Favre giving up football to join the Mannings's Double Stuf Racing League!  Seriously, it would be one of the dumbest things they could do.  Why not get rid of the Showcases while you're at it? 

Three Strikes needs to stay.  Period.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on September 23, 2008, 10:31:24 PM
I thought Drew did a mostly respectable job of hosting today, but he did one thing that really, really irked me -- he insulted 3 Strikes!

I was thinking in the shower this evening about why he made this comment, and thought that maybe the crew was already in discussions about how to shorten the game's playing time. Perhaps Drew was told he should comment about how long the game takes to play in order to prepare the audience for changes to the game's format the next time it is played.

I certainly don't think the comment was made to insult the game and I also believe that the comment did not lead to the change in the rules, but the change in rules (or at least discussion thereof) led to the comment.

Of course, there is always the possibility that he just gave his opinion.. it does take a while to play, and some contestants last season led to the game being edited.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: res0xn12 on September 23, 2008, 10:36:13 PM
I'd like to make a point that yes I think that Three Strikes needs to stay, but there comes a time that maybe a change is needed (although maybe not the right change at the right time).  To that effect, it's great that Three Strikes is going to be played for regular cars, BUT, I think personally, if they are going to do that, they must do a Three Strikes Plus for cars like today's playing.  Do we still know if they have the plus?

Anyway off the soapbox:  It was a shame to have Three Strikes lost today, I actually was hoping for either Triple Play or Golden Road yesterday.  Anyways, I thought that TPIR stopped giving away (or attempting to give away) Trucks due to Gasoline MPGs...

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Eddie on September 23, 2008, 10:45:37 PM
Push Over for a boat?  Thumbs down.

The Dice Game's outcome was interesting.  A contestant rolling a 4 three times with price having two 6's and a 1 and still manages to win.  Lucky She didn't roll a 5 or 2.

I did like the New York backdrop in for the convertable.

Kinda dissapointed to see another gas guzzling truck in Your first run-of-the-mill showcase round.  I'd bet the winner would considering trading or selling.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: rob79 on September 23, 2008, 11:01:43 PM
From what I understand, sadly, 3 Strikes may never recover from this tinkering.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! :cry: :cry: j

I'm getting tired of some yapping about Drew being correct about the length of time Strikes can take. THAT is what makes it exciting, the building of suspense-it was NEVER intended to be a short car game (we've got Money Game for that), you start messing with 3 Strikes you're messing with what makes it exciting and that's what Syd has done and unfortunately it seems that he's run it into the ground.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: thewhammy_2000 on September 23, 2008, 11:07:30 PM
One Bid 1: 5?

Push Over: My guesses were either 19908 or 13219. I didn't but should have tried 21990. Liked the attempt to reveal the price.

3 Strikes: Boy, and I was ready to enjoy a good play here... Game's still great though.

Check Game: Well, the change was bound to happen sometime. 5500 could work on one motorcicle...

Dice Game: Man those rolls of 4 were very risky...

Grand Game: "Oh, no! Not the Capzasin!" I think it would work if it was the Theragesic or something..

One Bid 6: "Hmm, Jennifer's marriage on the balance or laggard William... methinks a marriage is more important."

Switch?: Boy, I can hear those boos as I try to setup my capture equipment. I bet the Peanut Gallery are eating them after this win.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: BuddyTom on September 23, 2008, 11:07:59 PM
I believe today's 3 Strikes playing should be proof of why the decision was made during the Bob and Roger era as to what rules to use.  There is no need to reinvent the wheel, here.

From what I understand, sadly, 3 Strikes may never recover from this tinkering.

This would be nothing short of tragic for the show. 3 Strikes was a great game when it was played frequently for four-digit cars, and then became more special with the advent of 3 Strikes +, since the timing is long, it's reserved for luxury cars and always gets cheers when it shows up.

I wasn't happy when I heard it was going to be played for regular cars, wasn't happy when they were going to give the first digit for free (a time-saving move perhaps, but with regular cars it's usually pretty obvious that it's a 1 or 2). Seeing it today was indeed one of the quickest playings ever and a really bad run of luck for Gary (who I'm sure would advocate for it being retired), but it can't be THAT easy to win a Cadillac. And it's obvious that it was just lousy luck for it to be lost.

I love a good long playing of Three Strikes that comes down to a full count, even if it sends everything into hurry-up mode for the rest of the show. Win or lose, as Bob used to say, "isn't this exciting?!"
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: TPIRSteven on September 23, 2008, 11:10:23 PM
Wow, there were a lot of bad bids in Contestant's Row today!  I was practically screaming for Jennifer to bid $2 on the 6th IUFB, but she went with $1,400 and just barely eked out a win.  As for the rest of the show, here goes:

Push Over:  For a boat! 8-O  And it was won!  :-D  Also, a funny reveal when Drew couldn't get it to open!  I thought he was going to have to resort to the Bob Barker "Kick it Open" treatment.

3 Strikes:  To quote Drew, "That was brutal!"

Check Game:  I knew she was way too high, but on the other hand, I erred too far the other way, so I wouldn't have done any better.

SCSD1:  Lynette wins with a nickel!  Does anybody know when was the last time that happened?

Dice Game:  A great win despite some ugly dice rolling!

Grand Game:  I had a feeling the Phillips was under $8.  The Capsazin would have been my last choice.

Switch?:  Jennifer was right, Hank was right, and I was right, but the rest of the peanut gallery was dead wrong!

Showcases:  Very close finish!  Unfortunately, I did some major garfing in my CSS debut because my local CBS affiliate had technical difficulties and I had to rely solely on the prize descriptions in the chat.  It helps a lot when you actually see the prizes.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: mlh1981 on September 23, 2008, 11:12:54 PM
I was watching online, and it was sorta a "giveaway" to me that 3 strikes would be short and sweet.  CBS.com has the dividing lines that split up the segments, and the white was essentially 95 percent to the dividing line.  Did anyone else notice this?  Sorry if it's clumsily worded.  I didn't really know how else to phrase it.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: goldroadfanatic on September 23, 2008, 11:14:50 PM
I am disappointed that 3 Strikes may be retired soon but I was thinking, when 3 Strikes disappeared for 13 weeks in 1998, was it going to be retired until the staff decided to put only one strike in the bag?  

Also, when they were developing the 5-digit version of 3 Strikes over 25 years ago, did they consider giving the first number free before settling on putting all 5 numbers in the bag?

I wonder if what we are feeling right now is how fans felt when Super Ball!! got retired in 1998, it too was an exciting game and was well-loved.  Losing 3 Strikes would trump how people miss Penny Ante, Hit Me, Bump, Joker, Poker Game, and Super Ball!!, in my opinion.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: pricefan18 on September 23, 2008, 11:21:17 PM
I was watching online, and it was sorta a "giveaway" to me that 3 strikes would be short and sweet.  CBS.com has the dividing lines that split up the segments, and the white was essentially 95 percent to the dividing line.  Did anyone else notice this?  Sorry if it's clumsily worded.  I didn't really know how else to phrase it.

Yeah I caught that too.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: rob79 on September 23, 2008, 11:25:58 PM
If 3 Strikes winds up being retired over Syd's fiddling with it, I'll tell you what it'll be: a real: 1) shame, 2) disgrace,3) a sad day in the history of the show,and 4)_________(fill in the blank with your own adjective
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: The Square on September 23, 2008, 11:48:35 PM
Why didn't she write Fifty-five hundred dollars? I hope that's not another new time constraint...
Drew has never prompted the contestant to fill out the word portion of the check. Unless they start doing it themselves, he just goes right to the reveal, I assume to save time.

That was polite of William to wait until Lynette reached Contestants' Row before he got out of his seat to come on down.

With a party boat in Pushover and a $47,000 car in 3 Strikes, they must have had some budget left over from not giving away three cars or a gigantic trailer in yesterday's episode.

Right now, I'm just repeating to myself that these are only rumors that I'm reading about 3 Strikes. I agree though that having the host complain about a game on the air could prompt them to change the game to keep the host from complaining.

While I'm not a fan of the new Check Game range, as I think it's too narrow, it's a good thing they didn't make it any higher, or Patty would have broken the display. A $5,500 check still isn't a good idea, it's just not as obviously wrong as it would have been last season.

The ticket plug uses the hypocycloid pattern from last year, but if you watch in widescreen, since the ticket plug isn't formatted for widescreen, they added borders with the square pattern now on the set. It's last season versus this season!
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Mallory16 on September 23, 2008, 11:51:33 PM
Games get retired.  I'm usually pretty indifferent.  I mean, I didn't really want to see Hit Me or Poker Game or Joker go, but at the same time, it didn't really bother me much that they went.  They just kinda' existed, and now they don't.

It would be tragic for that fate to befall Three Strikes, though.  It's a classic, fun game, and a great tension builder on most playings, win or lose--today's playing being the exception, as opposed to the rule.  I would just be... well, it's a great game worth having around.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: whinbaby on September 23, 2008, 11:57:05 PM
Game #2 (#6,923)

Showcase #1
Living Room - $5,068
Maid Service - $3,500
Trip to Hong Kong - $9,618
- In Season 36, the average price for the five trips to Hong Kong was $9,412.  Prices ranged from $7,724-$12,512, but when it comes to Langham, there were three (two in daytime, one in primetime).  The average price of a trip to that hotel was $8,811.  Prices ranged from $7,425-$10,186.

Showcase #2
Desktop Computer - $1,378
Home Gym - $1,599
Ford F150 4x2 Styleside SuperCrew - $30,770

Total show prize value:  $185,388 (19 prizes)

Your Modeling Scorecard for September 23, 2008
Daily Records
High:  $124,951 (Claudia Jordan, 2002)
Low:  $32,898 (Claudia Jordan, 2003)

Rachel Reynolds
September 23
Total dollars:  $74,645
($47,737 won, $93,450 lost)
Total prizes:  6 (4-2)
Cars, Trips: 1, 1

After 2 shows
Total dollars:  $215,532
($108,396 won, $107,136 lost)
Total prizes:  16 (11-5)
Cars, Trips: 3, 3 (2-1, 2-1)

Brandi Sherwood
September 23
Total dollars:  $42,170
($33,602 won, $8,568 lost)
Total prizes:  7 (5-2)
Cars, Trips: 1, 1

After 2 shows
Total dollars:  $142,678
($103,417 won, $39,261 lost)
Total prizes:  20 (15-5)
Cars, Trips: 4, 4 (3-1, 3-1)

Tamiko Nash
September 23
Total dollars:  $57,605
($9,619 won, $47,986 lost)
Total prizes:  4 (3-1)
Cars, Trips: 1, 0

After 2 shows
Total dollars:  $171,554
($71,256 won, $100,298 lost)
Total prizes:  13 (10-3)
Cars, Trips: 5, 1 (2-3, 1-0)

Claudia's September 23 records stand.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: TLEberle on September 24, 2008, 12:04:19 AM
He was not insulting the show. He was simply stating the truth: this game can be really exciting, however it could also be a very long, drawn out game.
But the two aren't mutually exclusive. The longer the game goes without a conclusion, the more exciting it gets.

It isn't my favorite game, or even close. But there's no reason to retire it. You don't retire something just because you tweak things all over the place. The jist of the game is still there: you pull disks from the bag to fill in the price of the car. As long as that doesn't change, I'm fine.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: FPGWillyT on September 24, 2008, 12:13:00 AM
Three Strikes rule changes...HA!
Check Game rule changes...HA!

You guys think that's bad?  Just you wait!
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: ClockGameJohn on September 24, 2008, 12:35:56 AM
The final pull in Three Strikes is only second to the final reveal in Golden Road for 'best moments' on the show! 

I actually disagree.  There is something even more exciting about the final pull in 3 Strikes (especially a full count) than Golden Road's reveal.  Road's reveal is just that.  A reveal, except for a big prize.  3 Strikes is different.  You earn that final draw!

In all my countless visits to the show, I think the single most exciting moment I was in studio for was a leadoff 3 Strikes win.  The place went nuts!!!  (And I've been there for ALOT of exciting stuff!)
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: bigwheel1991 on September 24, 2008, 02:02:30 AM
I have ONE thing to say.................................... ....................




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STRIKE OUT!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: FPGWillyT on September 24, 2008, 02:03:34 AM
Gotta totally agree wtih John there.  No other game offers up the potential for a freat reveal that Three X does.  Yes, granted it takes a miracle/littany of things to happen to arrive at that point, but to watch someone in studio miss the first 7 pulls, get the next four pulls correct and then cry as he pulls X,X,X?

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Pushover72 on September 24, 2008, 02:17:03 AM
I finally did something tonight that I thought I would never do!

I TURNED OFF PRICE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SHOW! (I have it on tape and maybe I'll watch it later if I stop being mad!)

I got REALLY ANGRY when Drew described Three Strikes as "tedious and numbing".  How dare he!  For thirty or so years that game has been one of the most exciting games on the show.  But, I realized that maybe in HIS hands the game has lost its excitement.

Nevertheless, how dare he puts down any game on the show.  It makes it seem like he doesn't LIKE the show and he's only doing it for the money.

It will take me a while to calm down and get over this!

Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 24, 2008, 02:32:48 AM
Gotta totally agree wtih John there.  No other game offers up the potential for a freat reveal that Three X does.  Yes, granted it takes a miracle/littany of things to happen to arrive at that point, but to watch someone in studio miss the first 7 pulls, get the next four pulls correct and then cry as he pulls X,X,X?

Like I said...excellent television, whether it's joyous or heartbreaking.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: rob79 on September 24, 2008, 08:15:47 AM
I guess since Drew thinks 3 Strikes is "tedious" and "numbing" he must think Double Prices is the greatest game in the world since it is short and sweet.  :-P :-x
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Millionaire81 on September 24, 2008, 08:59:05 AM
I finally did something tonight that I thought I would never do!

I TURNED OFF PRICE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SHOW! (I have it on tape and maybe I'll watch it later if I stop being mad!) ...

Please, don't turn it back on...just stop watching.  Please.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 24, 2008, 09:24:37 AM
No, I think Pushover72 makes an excellent point -- it's very disheartening to have a new host come in and suddenly insult a part of the show that's been around and well-loved for 32 years.

(And again, that's not parallel to what he did with the Big Wheel.  What he insulted there was an idiotic change that had been instituted for no reason.  Sadly, though, that appears to be what he caused in 3 Strikes.)
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Flerbert419 on September 24, 2008, 10:09:20 AM
...it's very disheartening to have a new host come in and suddenly insult a part of the show that's been around and well-loved for 32 years.

(Emphasis mine)

I don't even think that Drew can be considered a "new host" anymore.  He's THE host, he's been around for a year, and he has obviously developed strong feelings about how the show should be run.

That being said, what he did to 3 Strikes yesterday was wrong.  Talk about that sort of stuff of the air, not while you are in the middle of playing the game with a contestant standing right next to you.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Scott5114 on September 24, 2008, 10:27:06 AM
Agree with the group here...3 Strikes should be kept around. Revert to the same rules it had last season, bring back the luxury cars, and it'll be just fine. It must not be retired.

I think Drew's comments were just intended to add some levity, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that. He didn't really come off as bitter about the timing to me...
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: TPIRfan222 on September 24, 2008, 10:32:15 AM
I'm afraid that this is the calm before the storm. That Season 37 will go as normally and then go downhill.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: UpsDriverMan on September 24, 2008, 10:53:19 AM
i saw something during yesterday's first showcase that so far as i know is a first - they had a car backdrop (the glass stands) behind the new living room group.  have they ever done that before, used something besides the faux room walls?
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: djryan on September 24, 2008, 11:26:12 AM
This is supposed to be "Television's Most Exciting Hour..."  And with one of the more exciting games, 3 STRIKES revealed, it was introduced with such a downer.  During the 2nd or 3rd pull, Drew started to say "Don't Change the channel", but stopped mid-way through...not good things to say...
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Chelsea on September 24, 2008, 12:37:57 PM
Regarding Three Strikes and Drew's apparent boredom with it on-air:

Three Strikes is a game that needs to be built a certain way.   The thing about Strikes length is that with the one chip at a time format, as the contestant gets closer to all 5 numbers being placed or their third strike drawn either one, you can play the tension and drama in the game like a fiddle.  Can the contestant pull that last number? Will they hit the third strike?  Plus, the inherent length of the game allows you to take full advantage of the contestant's excitability and nervousness.

Offer a high end car - the Corvette is a wonderful car for this game. Cadillacs will do.  Play it around once every six to eight weeks. Make the contestant pull all five digits. The game is exciting with either three or one strike in the bag, though it's a little easier with the latter.  These changes were made over the years to make the game more interesting - it's why they did what they did.  When it comes up in the rotation, make it into a big deal on air.  Because it is - or at least should be.

As a longtime fan of the show, this has always been one of my favorite games.  When you do it right, there are few games in the lineup more exciting. Normally I know video clips are supposed to be confined to the video section, but in this case my point is best made with a link to an example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfjFhAlDDCc).  This clip *best* demonstrates why the game was so popular for so many years, why it's interesting, and why the game deserves to be kept.

Most of the changes *actually* made so far have largely been chrome or otherwise minor in the scheme of things. But when talk turned to one of my favorite games being retired because it's supposedly "too long" or "too boring" I felt the need to chime in.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Cartboy on September 24, 2008, 06:04:28 PM
5-digit Pushover:  Good job! :-)  I thought that was pretty funny when Drew couldn't get the door open to reveal the price! :lol:
3 Strikes:  What a painful loss! :cry:  :cry:
Check Game:  Too bad! :-(  I think the range was due for a change, since the prices of the prizes keeps going up.
SCSD#1:  Lynette made it to the Showcase with just a nickel!  Can you believe it!? (Note sarcasm.)
Grand Game:  Too bad! :-(  I knew the Capzasin HP was over, but I was torn between the Phillips and the Slow Mag as to which one was below $8.00.
Switch?:  Nice job! :-)

Pretty good show overall, IMHO.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: left4thehouse on September 24, 2008, 08:11:23 PM
Gotta add my thoughts:

Dear Mr Carey,

Congratulations on outlasting Doug, and for continuing to do a fine job for the circumstances. It is hard for a rookie to go into a complex show that also had an industry icon who preceded you. However, if you must insist that the game play is methodical, feel free to do so during, say, the mixing of the discs. The game will of course slow down while you babble about it slowing down in a monotone. I know you can use the stand up experience to control pace, timing and entertain an inhouse audience of hundreds, so use it. Remember, it will be easier to go up tempo for 40 minutes than to drag for time because of a quick strikeout.

P.S. I'll call my shot now. Anything 10,000+ for Check Game gets the showcase eggcrate OVER. No rebuild, no fuss, no muss.

P.P.S. I also hear the best Exec. Prods. like to catch anvils falling out of planes to help ratings. I'm just seeing if the suggestion box is still open.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: strongbad on September 24, 2008, 08:23:25 PM
I believe today's 3 Strikes playing should be proof of why the decision was made during the Bob and Roger era as to what rules to use.  There is no need to reinvent the wheel, here.  (We did that too, literally.)

From what I understand, sadly, 3 Strikes may never recover from this tinkering.


I sure as heck hope that 3 Strikes doesn't go ANYWHERE, and the constant rule changes certainly need to come to a halt.  It is one of my favorite games on the show.  The fewer changes that are made with the show, the better. 
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: JohnHolder on September 24, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Dear Mr Carey,

Congratulations on outlasting Doug

Am I correct that Drew has also now hosted more episodes than Dennis and Tom?

John
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: UpsDriverMan on September 24, 2008, 08:37:38 PM
not to change the subject but strongbad is that rachel in your avatar?

on the subject of 3 strikes, john what did you mean when you said 3 strikes may never "recover from this tinkering"?  please tell me that just means we'll have to live with the current rule set (versus the game becoming so unpopular--to say nothing of confusing--that it gets retired?)
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 24, 2008, 08:45:06 PM
please tell me that just means we'll have to live with the current rule set (versus the game becoming so unpopular--to say nothing of confusing--that it gets retired?)

I don't think it's an issue of it becoming unpopular.  In fact, it sounds to me like its popularity is being ignored.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Millionaire81 on September 24, 2008, 11:31:43 PM
I don't think it's an issue of it becoming unpopular.  In fact, it sounds to me like its popularity is being ignored.

This is what bothers me so much.  Some people believe we are the only viewers.

How can you honestly say 3 Strikes is popular?  Because a small number of folks on the internet like it?  Maybe they've gotten a crapload of letter about it.  Granted, I can't say it's unpopular either, but we can't base "Price Law" on the opinion of .0012% of the viewing audience. 

I honestly believe if there was a logical production reason that a game was to be retired (as possibly the case of 3 Strikes) or one of our favorites was to be brought back for some odd reason, this board would just dispute any decision now because FremantleMedia is in charge.

Again, all I ask is if it upsets all of you this much please stop watching the show.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: jwatson2973 on September 25, 2008, 12:05:22 AM
Push Over- A $20,000+ boat. WOW! What a haul.

Three Strikes- Tough break. Not a single number lit up.

Check Game- Upping the ante didn't seem to help her today. $5,500 was a guarantee loss.

Dice Game- I'm amazed how she pulled it off rolling fours.

Grand Game- I knew she would lose picking the pain reliever.

Switch?- Great win.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 25, 2008, 12:14:46 AM
How can you honestly say 3 Strikes is popular?  Because a small number of folks on the internet like it?  Maybe they've gotten a crapload of letter about it.  Granted, I can't say it's unpopular either, but we can't base "Price Law" on the opinion of .0012% of the viewing audience.

I guess I can't guarantee that the general public likes it.  However, you just admitted yourself that you have no evidence that they don't, so perhaps we should stick with that .0012% we actually understand.  Frankly, I think we've got a better idea of how to run the show than the people currently in charge do, anyway, having spent so many years observing the way Roger ran it.

I honestly believe if there was a logical production reason that a game was to be retired (as possibly the case of 3 Strikes) or one of our favorites was to be brought back for some odd reason, this board would just dispute any decision now because FremantleMedia is in charge.

You really believe that tinkering the game into the dirt is a valid reason for getting rid of it?

Again, all I ask is if it upsets all of you this much please stop watching the show.

I would much rather try to save it...and frankly, having been a participant on these forums since the summer of 2000, I don't really appreciate being asked to stop watching my favorite program and leave the site alone by someone who a quick check of his profile reveals didn't even post here regularly until this February.  If everybody who was as concerned about the show as I am just got up and left, I don't think the site would even have a staff right now.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: PriceFanArmadillo on September 25, 2008, 12:15:10 AM
This is what bothers me so much.  Some people believe we are the only viewers.

How can you honestly say 3 Strikes is popular?  Because a small number of folks on the internet like it?  Maybe they've gotten a crapload of letter about it.  Granted, I can't say it's unpopular either, but we can't base "Price Law" on the opinion of .0012% of the viewing audience. 

Yes, we can't possibly speak for everyone.  We can only speak for ourselves.  That said, when trying to judge the overall popularity, in the lack of any other evidence, we have to overlay our own opinions on the general public if we have no information as to their opinions one way or the other.  

Why?  Let me put it this way.  It's a fairly popular opinion 'round these parts that Three Strikes is awesome.  If we don't know what everyone else thinks, which is more likely -- that the general public likes Three Strikes as much as we do, or that everyone out there dislikes Three Strikes just as much as we all like it?  If we're using our behavior as a predictor for general behavior (which is the most logical assumption to make, since we can't assume everyone else automatically thinks the opposite of whatever we do), it's most likely that they will think somewhere along the same lines as we do.

...of course, all that completely changes if we actually know how some Joe Plinkos feel about Three Strikes.  I don't remember asking anyone specifically, but I cannot for the life of me recall hearing anyone who dislikes the game.  (Then again, it wasn't played at ANY of the MDS's I went to last February, so I didn't get the chance to ask anyone about it.)  I don't see any reason Joe Q. Public wouldn't like Three Strikes though, so why should I assume that they find it unpopular?
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Marc on September 25, 2008, 12:17:54 AM
This is what bothers me so much.  Some people believe we are the only viewers.

Who are these some?  You reference them often, but I don't know who they are.

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How can you honestly say 3 Strikes is popular?  Because a small number of folks on the internet like it?.

Do you have access to a larger polling group that honestly has the ability to answer this question?  I'd be willing to bet that if you gathered a large sample of frequent Price viewers that do not frequent this website, most would put 3 Strikes in their Top Ten.  Do you disagree, and if so, why?

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I honestly believe if there was a logical production reason that a game was to be retired (as possibly the case of 3 Strikes) or one of our favorites was to be brought back for some odd reason, this board would just dispute any decision now because FremantleMedia is in charge.

First help me understand what logical production reasons would justify the retirement of 3 Strikes, and why Barker / Dobkowitz never found this reason.

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Again, all I ask is if it upsets all of you this much please stop watching the show.

Seems to me like you have a problem with folks expressing their discontent.  Why?  I'm upset that one of my favorite games may be on the chopping block, but I'm not going to turn off my TV at 11:00am.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Alfonzo on September 25, 2008, 12:18:39 AM
This is what bothers me so much.  Some people believe we are the only viewers.

How can you honestly say 3 Strikes is popular?  Because a small number of folks on the internet like it?  Maybe they've gotten a crapload of letter about it.  Granted, I can't say it's unpopular either, but we can't base "Price Law" on the opinion of .0012% of the viewing audience. 

I honestly believe if there was a logical production reason that a game was to be retired (as possibly the case of 3 Strikes) or one of our favorites was to be brought back for some odd reason, this board would just dispute any decision now because FremantleMedia is in charge.

Again, all I ask is if it upsets all of you this much please stop watching the show.

So, you're saying that you don't want people to express their opinions if it's a criticism of the show? If we didn't like or care about the show, we wouldn't express our concerns for a game we care very much about!

Also, Millionaire, why WOULDN'T you consider 3 Strikes popular? I'm sure that if you asked a group of pfople who'd consider themselves casual, but not daily viewers, they would know about 3 Strikes. Heck, I know quite a few "casual" viewers who wonder what happened to Penny Ante!

Even you would have to admit a lot of extreme changes have gone on since Bob left.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Flerbert419 on September 25, 2008, 12:31:11 AM
How can you honestly say 3 Strikes is popular?

I know it might not count for much, but 3 Strikes won the most recent thread  (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=7398.msg120717#msg120717) of the best game.

And that wasn't only the best game on the show right now, that was the best game OF ALL TIME.

Seems like it's loved very much around these parts.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on September 25, 2008, 12:55:56 AM
Am I correct that Drew has also now hosted more episodes than Dennis and Tom?

John

I'm not sure how many episodes Drew has hosted so far, I believe it is in the 200s. According to the FAQ, Dennis hosted over 300, and Tom hosted 170. So he's outlasted Tom and Doug, but I'm not sure about Dennis.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 25, 2008, 01:29:45 AM
I'm not sure how many episodes Drew has hosted so far, I believe it is in the 200s. According to the FAQ, Dennis hosted over 300, and Tom hosted 170. So he's outlasted Tom and Doug, but I'm not sure about Dennis.

He's outlasted Dennis, too, if you count the MDSs...Dennis only did the first five seasons of the nighttime show and one daytime show, which makes for 196 episodes and the scrapped (#003N).
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Millionaire81 on September 25, 2008, 01:57:49 AM
Wow!  Alot of good discussion on this.  I don't agree with it all, but good discussion none the less.  I'll do two posts to break up the quoting.

I'll start with Steve's repsonse.

I guess I can't guarantee that the general public likes it.  However, you just admitted yourself that you have no evidence that they don't, so perhaps we should stick with that .0012% we actually understand.  Frankly, I think we've got a better idea of how to run the show than the people currently in charge do, anyway, having spent so many years observing the way Roger ran it.

Nothing to dispute here I was just making the statement that there is a mentality here at times that if the board as a whole disagrees with something...it shouldn't be done...no compromise.

I would much rather try to save it...and frankly, having been a participant on these forums since the summer of 2000, I don't really appreciate being asked to stop watching my favorite program and leave the site alone by someone who a quick check of his profile reveals didn't even post here regularly until this February.  If everybody who was as concerned about the show as I am just got up and left, I don't think the site would even have a staff right now.

According to a profile check I joined two months after you did.  Sorry my post count isn't higher.  I just never felt the need to respond to every little comment.  I appreciate you considering me a regular poster now.  I don't consider myself one.  I'd have to guess that, like me, many members here are just lurkers, again, just a guess.  Maybe it's the welcoming committee.  I know you and I have NEVER seen eye to eye, but I respect your opinion just as much as you respect mine.  I just wish you'd have a better outlook on the show as whole.  It doesn't bode very well for the show and board when one of it's mods and major members as yourself are so down about the show.

On to Armadillo.

Why?  Let me put it this way.  It's a fairly popular opinion 'round these parts that Three Strikes is awesome.  If we don't know what everyone else thinks, which is more likely -- that the general public likes Three Strikes as much as we do, or that everyone out there dislikes Three Strikes just as much as we all like it?  If we're using our behavior as a predictor for general behavior (which is the most logical assumption to make, since we can't assume everyone else automatically thinks the opposite of whatever we do), it's most likely that they will think somewhere along the same lines as we do.

I agree with your comments, but if we use your logic of using the board as a predictor then we are assuming the nation will hate the purple wheel, the nation wants Syd head on a platter, and the nation went nuts when the light border changed.  I especially disagree with this logic when we have freely admitted that the Joe Plinkos won't even notice the changes we do.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Millionaire81 on September 25, 2008, 01:57:56 AM
Part 2 of 2

Who are these some?  You reference them often, but I don't know who they are.

Figuratively speaking.  I'm positive if I took time, I could come up with some posts that insinuate we are the only viewers who have an opinion.  My point was we cannot assume that other viewers aren't making their opinions known to CBS or Fremantle.

Do you have access to a larger polling group that honestly has the ability to answer this question?  I'd be willing to bet that if you gathered a large sample of frequent Price viewers that do not frequent this website, most would put 3 Strikes in their Top Ten.  Do you disagree, and if so, why?  

No I don't have a larger polling group, but I assume you don't either.  My point how can we honestly speak with such a broad term that 3 Strikes is so popular.   So, I do disagree.  Outside of your group of friends do you think other viewers can name 10 games by their proper names.  I'm fairly confident a great deal of them will give you Plinko, maybe Cliffhangers, and the rest just descriptions (Yodelly Guy Game).

First help me understand what logical production reasons would justify the retirement of 3 Strikes, and why Barker/ Dobkowitz never found this reason.

The most obvious would that it can be very time consuming and with the thought that maybe Drew should not be as rushed as we have mentioned, wouldn't it make sense to do that.  I thought I read on here that Bob retired SuperBall for the same reason?

Seems to me like you have a problem with folks expressing their discontent.  Why?  I'm upset that one of my favorite games may be on the chopping block, but I'm not going to turn off my TV at 11:00am.

Again, I have no problems with folks opinions, but I do have a problem when mods constantly express their negative feelings and rumor to point where it breeds hatred and incites panic by the members for the some staff members and the company producing the show.  These are the folks who have our favorite show in their hands, if human nature takes it's course with these producers they will start changing every thing you hold dear about this show just to show you who's in charge.

And finally Alfonzo.

Also, Millionaire, why WOULDN'T you consider 3 Strikes popular?

I can't.  It is popular here, but is it really popular outside of the board?  I don't know.  No one here does.


I'm sure that if you asked a group of pfople who'd consider themselves casual, but not daily viewers, they would know about 3 Strikes. Heck, I know quite a few "casual" viewers who wonder what happened to Penny Ante!

We just have a different group of friends.  Most of my friends believe I have an unhealthy obsession.

Even you would have to admit a lot of extreme changes have gone on since Bob left.

No, I don't have to admit that.  Have we had changes?  Yes.  Are they extreme?  Outside of Drew and Roger...absolutely, positively, beyond a shadow of a doubt...NO.

I know it might not count for much, but 3 Strikes won the most recent thread  (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=7398.msg120717#msg120717) of the best game.

And that wasn't only the best game on the show right now, that was the best game OF ALL TIME.

Seems like it's loved very much around these parts.

Key words there..."around these parts."

Again, everyone, I appreciate your statements and opinion, just as you have mine...but this absolutely is a case of agreeing to disagree.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: strongbad on September 25, 2008, 05:33:03 AM
not to change the subject but strongbad is that rachel in your avatar?


Yes it is!  She's my favorite model on the show  8-)
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: goldroadfanatic on September 25, 2008, 09:19:14 AM
Nothing to dispute here I was just making the statement that there is a mentality here at times that if the board as a whole disagrees with something...it shouldn't be done...no compromise.

The reason the whole board disagrees with something is that we think it is a bad idea and wouldn't do the show well if it was instituted.  I can't think of any reason why or how we should compromise getting rid of 3 Strikes, let alone changing the rules.

I just wish you'd have a better outlook on the show as whole.  It doesn't bode very well for the show and board when one of it's mods and major members as yourself are so down about the show.

Some people have reasons to be optimistic about the show this season, and others have reasons to fear for the show.  It's just a matter of opinion, those who fear the show's fate have a good reason-Roger, the man who helped keep the show the way it was for many years was dismissed and now Syd has the power to institute any changes he feels that are necessary.  Given his track record with these changes, namely the Hollywood Mural in Season 31 and the Purple Wheel that we haven't seen yet, some people fear the worst is yet to come.

I especially disagree with this logic when we have freely admitted that the Joe Plinkos won't even notice the changes we do.

If and when there are enough changes made to the show, like a video wall dominating the set or something that looks like American Idol, then the average viewers will think something's wrong with this picture.

Outside of your group of friends do you think other viewers can name 10 games by their proper names.  I'm fairly confident a great deal of them will give you Plinko, maybe Cliffhangers, and the rest just descriptions (Yodelly Guy Game).


There is a difference between calling a game by its proper name and naming one naming 10 of his/her favorite games.

The most obvious would that it can be very time consuming and with the thought that maybe Drew should not be as rushed as we have mentioned, wouldn't it make sense to do that.  I thought I read on here that Bob retired SuperBall for the same reason?

Bob and Roger loved 3 Strikes because of its excitement and tension, coupled with playing for a very expensive car.  Bob felt Super Ball!! didn't generate the audience reaction to Plinko, 3 Strikes, or Golden Road, and it did take a long time because all of the game had to be played (with all SP's and rolling of the practice and regular balls).  3 Strikes can be very long, with the contestants drawing out numbers and placing them in incorrect spots, or rather quick, striking out in the first few draws.   3 Strikes, it seems, has that air of flexibility and since it's played for expensive cars (until this year) and only shows up a few times a year, show timing for the entire year isn't really affected. 

Drew is rushed partly because of the time constraints that have been instituted recently, maybe if there was less commercial time and more for the show, he would feel more relaxed and take his time.

I do have a problem when mods constantly express their negative feelings and rumor to point where it breeds hatred and incites panic by the members for the some staff members and the company producing the show...

I know Steve has said that the members of this site could run the show better than the current staff, but I don't think this site is in a power struggle with the powers that be.  I know it's nerve racking and scary for the senior members and mods to bode bad news to all, but there is a reason for this--Roger has been dismissed and we are unsure of the staff's ability to keep the show going the way it has and should be.

I can't.  It is popular here, but is it really popular outside of the board?  I don't know.  No one here does.

If it isn't popular, then why did it make its way to the recent TPIR PC and video game?  I asked a group of my friends and a good part of them call 3 Strikes by its proper name and know how it's played.  Heck, they even know some games that I didn't think they would know, like Golden Road and Shell Game!

No, I don't have to admit that.  Have we had changes?  Yes.  Are they extreme?  Outside of Drew and Roger...absolutely, positively, beyond a shadow of a doubt...NO.

They replaced the venerable trip skins with a green screen, they are making simple presentations overly busy, and that is very extreme.  Also, I heard they were testing a video wall out right around when tapings started for this season.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: JohnHolder on September 25, 2008, 10:21:58 AM
I'm not sure how many episodes Drew has hosted so far, I believe it is in the 200s. According to the FAQ, Dennis hosted over 300, and Tom hosted 170. So he's outlasted Tom and Doug, but I'm not sure about Dennis.

The weekly nighttime show had a total of 300 episodes, but Dennis only hosted it for its first five years. I think it was 195 episodes with Dennis and then 105 with Bob. Then, of course, Dennis hosted three daytime episodes, for a total of 198 - so maybe Drew passes that record with today's show, the fourth of his 40th week?

John
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Mallory16 on September 25, 2008, 10:26:48 AM
Quote from: Millionaire81
How can you honestly say 3 Strikes is popular?

I can assure you that Three Strikes is one of the most popular games on the show among casual viewers.  Not at Plinko's level, but then, really, no other game is.  It's more popular than Golden Road outside this board.  It's one of the few games a lot of people I've known, who are not obsessed with the show mind you, remember vividly and usually fondly.

Quote from: Millionaire81
We just have a different group of friends.  Most of my friends believe I have an unhealthy obsession.

Mine think I have an unhealthy obsession with the show, too.  Doesn't change the fact that they like Three Strikes.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: PriceFan14 on September 25, 2008, 01:10:17 PM
He's the host.  He is not supposed to be insulting his own show on the air.

Not only that, he should't be insulting the show in the public eye period. It doesn't look good when the host of a show points out "flaws".
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Hag on September 25, 2008, 01:29:16 PM
This has been a very interesting discussion to follow, so I'll just quickly throw my two cents in...

I would agree that Drew's criticism of Three Strikes during the show was rather unnecessary. I think part of being a host is supporting the show you're hosting and everything about it, and keeping any criticism to yourself and saving it for a more appropriate time, such as a staff meeting.

Three Strikes is a great game, possibly the best as far as suspense goes. It would be a shame to lose it.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: PriceFan14 on September 25, 2008, 01:35:23 PM
I agree with your comments, but if we use your logic of using the board as a predictor then we are assuming the nation will hate the purple wheel, the nation wants Syd head on a platter, and the nation went nuts when the light border changed.  I especially disagree with this logic when we have freely admitted that the Joe Plinkos won't even notice the changes we do.

I've definitely gotta agree with Millionaire on the Joe Plinko dealy... My grandparents watch TPiR ALMOST everyday; they consider themselves an average viewer of the show and believe me, they most certainly DO notice the changes that take place on the show; even the little ones. My grandfather was the first person I know to complain about some changes to the show like the lightbox, the hypocloid set, Barker's Markers name/set change, and unnecesary rule changes like $500 bonuses in 1/2 Off. The average viewer most certainly notices the changes going on, but some of them may not CARE enough to speak out against them. A lot of people can't be bothered. My mother hardly EVER watched TPiR when I was living at home, and even SHE noticed some of the changes.

IMHO, I think Fremantle would do wise to look at some of the fan sites and boards on the net (remember, we're not the only one's). There are generalized game show discussion boards who have TPiR sections where people can discuss some similar topics we do here. I believe that it would be in their best interest to do the show in a way that the LFaT would like it; or use their opinons and constructive criticism to make the show better. If the LFaT and us Price-fanatics like it, then the general "Joe Plinko" will most likely have no problem with it.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Marc on September 25, 2008, 02:06:21 PM
I'm positive if I took time, I could come up with some posts that insinuate we are the only viewers who have an opinion.  My point was we cannot assume that other viewers aren't making their opinions known to CBS or Fremantle.

Please do take the time to find me just two or three posts that make such an insinuation.  I don't think we have a single member who is making the assumption which you rightfully say that we cannot make.

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I thought I read on here that Bob retired SuperBall for the same reason?

See GRF's post above.  He's right.

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Again, I have no problems with folks opinions, but I do have a problem when mods constantly express their negative feelings and rumor to point where it breeds hatred and incites panic by the members for the some staff members and the company producing the show.

As far as I know, John and I are the only mods that have posted "rumors", and hopefully after all these years we have established ourselves as reliable sources of information.  Our intent isn't to "incite panic", but rather call it as we hear it...we've been doing the same thing for years now...be it if we personally like the changes or not.  Members are free to react as they will, positively or negatively.  Yes, most of the reaction around here has been negative over the past few months, but NOBODY is prohibited from telling us what they DO LIKE about these recent changes & rumors.  This includes non-members...there are no barriers to registration on golden-road.net.

At the end of the day, we're all in this together, as a collective group of Price fans.  So instead of telling us that you don't like how many are reacting, let's snapshot the ratings as the year progresses and see how America-at-large reacts.  That...or discuss what you DO LIKE about the changes...since you are so opposed to the general reaction around here.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Scott5114 on September 25, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
Hm. Perhaps we could somehow get the ratings and plot them on a line graph with major events labeled, sort of like this graph (http://electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/ec_graph-2008.html) (warning: graph is political in nature). That way, we can see if changes we react negatively to results in a corresponding drop in viewership, or a gain, or indifference.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on September 25, 2008, 03:13:08 PM
The weekly nighttime show had a total of 300 episodes, but Dennis only hosted it for its first five years. I think it was 195 episodes with Dennis and then 105 with Bob. Then, of course, Dennis hosted three daytime episodes, for a total of 198 - so maybe Drew passes that record with today's show, the fourth of his 40th week?

Doh! You're right about Dennis's hosting numbers.  Completely forgot that Bob took over the night time show.. So yeah, he would now exceed every host of the syndicated series.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: WarioBarker on September 25, 2008, 07:43:52 PM
Okay, looks like I gotta straighten this out...

Dennis James hosted 200 episodes (195 Nighttime, #(003N), and four Daytime) - and if we throw in the 1972 Pitchfilm we get 201; Drew is either very close to that or past it.

However, if you slap Dennis, Tom, and Doug together you get 453 (201 plus 170 Kennedy shows, 80 Davidson episodes, and the two 1993 Pilots). If Tom hosted the 1983 "New Price is Right" Pilot then bump that to 454.

--

Anyway, Fremantle needs to hire Marc or John or Steve or Frank - SOMEBODY who moderates forums on this site - and get this show back to what made it good; Check Game's new range is horrid, Make Your Mark shouldn't have the contestant keep $500 regardless, and if those IDIOTS don't fix Three Strikes it's going where the good Professor and those phones are now - the retired game graveyard. And not even Mimi can scare it back into existence.

Which reminds me... (goes over to the "Never-Ending Story" thread)
-Daniel
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: Marc on September 25, 2008, 08:28:22 PM
Like what you're seeing or otherwise, this is a good time to remind everybody about Rule #9:

9. While we do allow some negative comments regarding the personnel involved with the shows, please keep it to a minimum. Try and remember the people involved with a show may or may not read these boards. If you wouldn’t say it to them in person, don’t say it here! This also holds true for in-studio contestants. We have lots of lurkers!

Thank you.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: mrbrown2195 on September 25, 2008, 09:29:10 PM
However, if you slap Dennis, Tom, and Doug together you get 453 (201 plus 170 Kennedy shows, 80 Davidson episodes, and the two 1993 Pilots). If Tom hosted the 1983 "New Price is Right" Pilot then bump that to 454.

To clarify, I meant every host of the syndicated series taken individually, not together. Drew's only probably abut half way to Tom+Dennis+Doug.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 25, 2008, 09:51:59 PM
Anyway, Fremantle needs to hire Marc or John or Steve or Frank - SOMEBODY who moderates forums on this site - and get this show back to what made it good

...or just rehire Roger...
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: PriceFanArmadillo on September 26, 2008, 01:16:46 PM
Anyway, Fremantle needs to hire Marc or John or Steve or Frank - SOMEBODY who moderates forums on this site - and get this show back to what made it good;

Yes, because moderating an internet message board makes me wonderfully qualified to run a network television program.

(Also, you probably wouldn't want me there...I'd keep the MYM rule change the way it is now.  :)
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: edmojautis on September 29, 2008, 12:01:18 AM
Push: $21,990 was the way to go!! Good job.

3 Strikes: For a game that normally takes long, This sure was a disasterous turnout.

Check: Once again, I'll say this change suits very well with me. I would've wrote down $3500. Patti went a little overboard.

Dice: Jill scored so victorious on this one and she looked just good in her new Mustang.  :-)

Grand: Who in the name of Drew would possess Kimberly into saying Capzasin-P was less than eight bucks?  8-O
I say we spray the bum.

Switch?: I would've stayed.  :-?

Showcases: Lynette is not just the ruler but the queen of the world!!!! (Couldn't help myself.  :-D)

A 3-star show.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: PimpinJC on September 29, 2008, 05:34:20 PM
Yay, it's 3 Strikes!  That was some rare bad luck picking 3 strikes in 4 draws.  Never seen it end that quick.

Well, I guess it's good they upped the limits in Check Game; it will allow for some nicer prizes.  But was it that necessary to enlarge the dollar signs? :roll:  No way those motorcycles could have been only $1000 apiece.

That was an awesome win in Dice Game!  3 bad rolls, and Jill still managed to pull a win out of thin air.

Wow, those prizes in Switch? were on steroids.  I would've said "no switch" and lost.

And about the 3 Strikes thing, I'll say this:  The one part I didn't like was when Drew said, "I'm not gonna ask you where you're from or what you do because this game takes forever!"  It almost sounded as if he was saying, "We don't have any time to meet and greet; let's just hurry up and play the game and get it over with."  That's kinda what ticked me off a bit.

The game itself is not tedious and boring.  Some contestants make the game harder than it actually is.  I wouldn't like it either if a contestant got up on stage and had absolutely no clue what they were doing.  I'm talking about the ones who would say a 1 is the 1st number in the price of a Corvette, or the ones who guess a number for a spot, get it wrong, draw the same number again, and try to place it in the same spot.  Really, if you know what you're doing, the actual game play should take 3 minutes tops.

And this doesn't apply to just 3 Strikes.  You get a clueless contestant and any game can take a long time.
Title: Re: FULL RECAP - TPiR 09/23/2008
Post by: JokerFan on September 29, 2008, 05:54:53 PM
And about the 3 Strikes thing, I'll say this:  The one part I didn't like was when Drew said, "I'm not gonna ask you where you're from or what you do because this game takes forever!"  It almost sounded as if he was saying, "We don't have any time to meet and greet; let's just hurry up and play the game and get it over with."  That's kinda what ticked me off a bit.
I took it mean something like "I only have 6 minutes for this segment, so let's not waste anytime for anything other than the gameplay".  Yes, I know it's not like they only go 6 minutes and everything else is edited out.  Drew just knew the game takes a while, so he should spend less time talking about the contestant.