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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on April 13, 2024, 11:26:26 PM

Title: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on April 13, 2024, 11:26:26 PM
Seriously, I have been reading these complaints amongst the fandom for some time, and to be honest, if I felt that I could win by outbidding my opponent with the highest bid by $1, I would do that. If I felt that everyone had overbid and I was the last to bid, I would bid $420.

I honestly don't get why people take issue with people making these two bids in contestants' row when they might just be what gets you up on stage...
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on April 14, 2024, 02:28:35 AM
i think the problem people have against 420 bids is when they do it every time (or add a digit in front of it, ie 1420) instead of actually bidding to try to win
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: PriceFan07 on April 14, 2024, 12:31:45 PM
Bidding $420 because you believe that is what will get you the win is one thing. Bidding $420 because you think it's funny (like $69) is another. One is a person trying to get up on stage, the other is a clown looking for their 15 minutes.

My grandmother, who has been watching Price is Right for 50+ years has always said she thinks they should have a rule of bidding a certain amount within others and I've always said that makes things unfair. If contestant A bid $999 and I know (or genuinely believe) the price is $1000, it's not fair that I would now have to bid something like $1025 and risk going over. It's tough because I also get annoyed when someone one-ups the last person to get called down, a crowd favorite who had been stuck in contestant's row all show, or even someone who is a clear fan vs someone clueless who probably hadn't seen a full episode of Price is Right since it started. In the end, it's still a game and has always been this way .
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on April 14, 2024, 01:12:17 PM

My grandmother, who has been watching Price is Right for 50+ years has always said she thinks they should have a rule of bidding a certain amount within others ...

I wonder if this is also from her probably being old enough to be able to see the Cullen series in its heyday (vs GSN/Buzzr/YT) and knowing how a lot of times, that version DID implement such a rule of having to increase the bid to be a certain amount above the previous high bid
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: LiteBulb88 on April 14, 2024, 01:42:49 PM
No one bid prize is ever under $500 these days. Therefore, a bid of $420 is always strategically wrong; one should bid $500 instead.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: furneralcar47 on April 14, 2024, 02:45:10 PM
I admit I don’t feel bad when a Contestant crashes and burns on stage after $1ering someone else.

It’s usually a case of refusing to think for themselves.  Because often the APR of the prize in question is over $200 more than the $01 bid.

I especially love seeing the $1er fail on stage when they act like they are so great and smart when in reality they just copied off someone’s paper so to speak.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: Nick on April 14, 2024, 10:50:20 PM
If I felt that everyone had overbid and I was the last to bid, I would bid $420.

And why specifically that amount?  Because you're a pothead?  Whether you are or not is irrelevant, I suppose, but it is the impression you would give making such a bid.

It's a matter of maturity, and those who've deliberately bid $420 in this day and age are intentionally being immature.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: ooboh on April 15, 2024, 03:39:22 AM
It's a matter of maturity, and those who've deliberately bid $420 in this day and age are intentionally being immature.
 

Right on. The contestant’s job is to bid as close as possible to the ARP of the prize being offered, not make joke bids to get a cheap laugh. Especially when you only have a maximum of six chances to bid before being effectively being banned from the show for ten years. Save that unfunny crap for Family Feud or whatever.

And I’m not willing to consider differing views on this topic either.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: imhomerjay on April 15, 2024, 04:33:27 AM
 

Right on. The contestant’s job is to bid as close as possible to the ARP of the prize being offered, not make joke bids to get a cheap laugh. Especially when you only have a maximum of six chances to bid before being effectively being banned from the show for ten years. Save that unfunny crap for Family Feud or whatever.

And I’m not willing to consider differing views on this topic either.
🤣🤣🤣Ooooh, that’ll teach ‘em.

The Price is Right is not exactly Mensa. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that but let’s not pretend it’s something stately and regal.

That these things get people bent out of shape is rather remarkable.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: BillyGr on April 15, 2024, 11:53:15 AM
No one bid prize is ever under $500 these days. Therefore, a bid of $420 is always strategically wrong; one should bid $500 instead.

Unless the person bidding is the 4th to bid, and they believe the other three bids have gone over. 

Then, it doesn't really matter since the chance of bidding exactly $500 and that being exactly right, thus getting the cash bonus is very tiny, and bidding higher than $500 allows there to be a 4-way overbid, so at that point anything $500 or lower is 99.9999% the same result.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: LiteBulb88 on April 15, 2024, 11:56:42 AM
Unless the person bidding is the 4th to bid, and they believe the other three bids have gone over. 

Then, it doesn't really matter since the chance of bidding exactly $500 and that being exactly right, thus getting the cash bonus is very tiny, and bidding higher than $500 allows there to be a 4-way overbid, so at that point anything $500 or lower is 99.9999% the same result.

It may be 99.9999% the same thing, but 99.9999% is not 100%. However unlikely it is, bidding $500 gives you a non-zero shot at getting the $500 bonus, while bidding less than $500 gives you an exactly 0% chance of getting that bonus. Even if the advantage is tiny, why would you not take it?
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: BillyGr on April 15, 2024, 12:05:05 PM
It may be 99.9999% the same thing, but 99.9999% is not 100%. However unlikely it is, bidding $500 gives you a non-zero shot at getting the $500 bonus, while bidding less than $500 gives you an exactly 0% chance of getting that bonus. Even if the advantage is tiny, why would you not take it?

Have they actually had items at exactly $500 anyway in the recent past?  If so, it must be very rare, certainly not something that happens often enough to be remembered :)

Even then, the point is to get the item and get on stage to play for more stuff - the money is certainly a nice "extra" but not the focus of the vast majority of players (or watchers).
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: ooboh on April 15, 2024, 03:05:33 PM
🤣🤣🤣Ooooh, that’ll teach ‘em.

The Price is Right is not exactly Mensa. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that but let’s not pretend it’s something stately and regal.

That these things get people bent out of shape is rather remarkable.

Somehow, I expected this sort of “well-thought-out” comment.


Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: gamesurf on April 15, 2024, 03:09:08 PM
$80085, Drew!
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on April 15, 2024, 10:37:11 PM
$80085, Drew!

That, obviously, would be considered a dumb bid...even worse than bidding $420...
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on April 15, 2024, 10:43:04 PM
Bidding $420 because you believe that is what will get you the win is one thing. Bidding $420 because you think it's funny (like $69) is another. One is a person trying to get up on stage, the other is a clown looking for their 15 minutes.

My grandmother, who has been watching Price is Right for 50+ years has always said she thinks they should have a rule of bidding a certain amount within others and I've always said that makes things unfair. If contestant A bid $999 and I know (or genuinely believe) the price is $1000, it's not fair that I would now have to bid something like $1025 and risk going over. It's tough because I also get annoyed when someone one-ups the last person to get called down, a crowd favorite who had been stuck in contestant's row all show, or even someone who is a clear fan vs someone clueless who probably hadn't seen a full episode of Price is Right since it started. In the end, it's still a game and has always been this way .

I can see your point, but what if someone bid/added "420" or "69" to their bid because it actually would get them the win? Some people might think one is being funny, but if it were me, I wouldn't be doing so deliberately for humor; it would just be because I felt that doing so would get me the win if I am the last person to bid and felt that I needed to think critically.

I would concur, however, that bidding those numbers repeatedly to no avail would be rather obnoxious.

Also, you are right that it would be unfair to ban bidding $1 higher...the insane amount of complaints I see from people begging for that rule to be changed only tells me that some people have never seen TPIR in their lives to know the rules of the game that have been the standard since day 1 in '72.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: Nick on April 15, 2024, 11:13:55 PM
I can see your point, but what if someone bid/added "420" or "69" to their bid because it actually would get them the win?

Unless there really are any prizes these days that end in $420 or $69, you can be mature and bid something else and still win.

Yes, this means if you want to one-up someone whose bid ends in $419 or $68, you be mature by bidding something other than $1 higher (perhaps a few dollars higher so it doesn't look like you are so blatantly skipping "dirty numbers" because you know Drew would at least giggle to see you two-up someone to avoid those figures).

Honestly, they should just put it in the contestant release not to make such bids since enough people have been called who couldn't seem to figure that out (though how the contestant coordinator didn't figure out they'd be such a bad pick...).  There really should be a mechanism to eject contestants who don't take the proceedings seriously and just want to be a doofus on television.  Such idiots need not to take the place of others in the audience who would make for great contestants.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: ooboh on April 15, 2024, 11:26:50 PM
I can see your point, but what if someone bid/added "420" or "69" to their bid because it actually would get them the win? Some people might think one is being funny, but if it were me, I wouldn't be doing so deliberately for humor; it would just be because I felt that doing so would get me the win if I am the last person to bid and felt that I needed to think critically.

Unless you are the last to bid and the highest bid ends in _419 or __68, there is quite literally no legitimate reason to ever add 420 or 69 to your bid other than to be a clown.

Like I understand that Price is supposed to be fun or whatever, but if you're not going to actually attempt to win, then you have no business being on the show. Period. I imagine that being a contestant coordinator is a thankless job, not the least of which is because you'll get the blame if you send some moron out there who just wants 15 minutes of fame.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on April 16, 2024, 12:00:20 PM
Unless there really are any prizes these days that end in $420 or $69, you can be mature and bid something else and still win.

Yes, this means if you want to one-up someone whose bid ends in $419 or $68, you be mature by bidding something other than $1 higher (perhaps a few dollars higher so it doesn't look like you are so blatantly skipping "dirty numbers" because you know Drew would at least giggle to see you two-up someone to avoid those figures).

Honestly, they should just put it in the contestant release not to make such bids since enough people have been called who couldn't seem to figure that out (though how the contestant coordinator didn't figure out they'd be such a bad pick...).  There really should be a mechanism to eject contestants who don't take the proceedings seriously and just want to be a doofus on television.  Such idiots need not to take the place of others in the audience who would make for great contestants.

Unless you are the last to bid and the highest bid ends in _419 or __68, there is quite literally no legitimate reason to ever add 420 or 69 to your bid other than to be a clown.

Like I understand that Price is supposed to be fun or whatever, but if you're not going to actually attempt to win, then you have no business being on the show. Period. I imagine that being a contestant coordinator is a thankless job, not the least of which is because you'll get the blame if you send some moron out there who just wants 15 minutes of fame.

(imitating Rei Ayanami)
I only see immaturity from those who can't accept a decent strategy on bidding $420 and or "$--69". Do you feel the need to put down people who innocently bid those amounts because they appear immature to you when they only meant well to win their way on stage?
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on April 16, 2024, 12:21:29 PM
this isn't something as upper-class as Jeopardy we're talking about.... and at the end of the day, these are just numbers that admittedly get overused elsewhere

isn't there more pressing things we could argue about instead of certain numbers on a show that's about pricing just about anything and everything from gum to cars

(edited to add this)  and if you REALLY want over-use of the 420 in a game show, see Snoop Dogg's take on The Joker's Wild
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on April 16, 2024, 12:30:34 PM
this isn't something as upper-class as Jeopardy we're talking about.... and at the end of the day, these are just numbers that admittedly get overused elsewhere

isn't there more pressing things we could argue about instead of certain numbers on a show that's about pricing just about anything and everything from gum to cars

(edited to add this)  and if you REALLY want over-use of the 420 in a game show, see Snoop Dogg's take on The Joker's Wild

All true. It seems that voicing my opinion on innocently bidding $420 (let alone, $--69) or bidding $1 higher to win your way on stage (not bidding those numbers repeatedly to no avail) is considered a taboo to some...
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: DebonairDylan on April 16, 2024, 12:39:22 PM
What about bidding $666 or a 4 digit amount $x,666? There was one instance of a bidder bidding $665 and the next one purposely bid $667. Myself, I would bid $666 in that situation just to see what Drew's reaction would be, I wouldn't bid that just for the sake of it though.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: Nick on April 16, 2024, 02:47:56 PM
I only see immaturity from those who can't accept a decent strategy on bidding $420 and or "$--69".

You don't seem to be getting the point that this will never be the optimum, much less a decent, strategy.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: GRWHAMMY the 2nd on April 16, 2024, 02:55:57 PM
you also need to realize a lot of people in that row are NOT golden-road.net superfans like us who would even THINK to be "optimized" in their bidding

just look at how many non-zero guesses are made on 10 Chances, even AFTER the Superfan episode all but spelled it out
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: ooboh on April 16, 2024, 04:10:29 PM
(imitating Rei Ayanami)
I only see immaturity from those who can't accept a decent strategy on bidding $420 and or "$--69". Do you feel the need to put down people who innocently bid those amounts because they appear immature to you when they only meant well to win their way on stage?

This is a waste of time and the very existence of this thread was a mistake.
Title: Re: UNPOPULAR OPINION - Bidding $1 more and/or bidding $420 is not a problem
Post by: SteveGavazzi on April 16, 2024, 06:21:13 PM
I'm not even sure what the hell's happening here, but it's done now.

LOCKED.