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Studio 46 - Non-TPiR Discussion => Out In Left Field => Topic started by: SuperMatch93 on July 12, 2011, 10:09:08 AM

Title: BigJon's down?
Post by: SuperMatch93 on July 12, 2011, 10:09:08 AM
I went to his forums to check on the net games and it said that the account was suspended. Temporary outage, or copyright claims?
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: themountainclimber on July 12, 2011, 10:40:25 AM
Can't be copyright claims; the downloads would be down as well.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: kianworld on July 12, 2011, 10:42:08 AM
I don't think so. Probably because he updated RTaB last night.  :confused:
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: wheelfan1991 on July 12, 2011, 10:52:53 AM
Here is the problem (I spoke to BigJon on his Blog TV channel), he says he has to pay for his websites, so he has the automatically debited from his credit or debit card, but apparently the place where his website comes from forgot to automatically debit it this time around, therefore it looked as if he hadn't paid for it, so they shut his domain down. Everything is back to normal now!  :-D
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: BigJon on July 12, 2011, 11:31:44 AM
Before the worlds erupts, i simply had to update payment information for my site since i lost my debit card recently.  Sites good now..
This can be locked now...
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: PriceFan07 on July 12, 2011, 04:43:31 PM
Awww...your avatar is such a tease BigJon :(
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: BigJon on July 12, 2011, 04:50:40 PM
ok, i won't tease :)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1658/capture0o.jpg)
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: themountainclimber on July 12, 2011, 05:22:28 PM
I hate Fremantle even more after seeing that. :-(
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: holein1isawesome on July 12, 2011, 06:44:39 PM
Does all that copyright crap even matter?

As long as you say, "It's not mine, it's theirs and I don't own any part of it.", then it shouldn't matter.

Maybe one day in the future, Freemantle will get a better director or copyright laws won't be so strict anymore.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: themountainclimber on July 12, 2011, 06:47:45 PM
Does all that copyright crap even matter?

As long as you say, "It's not mine, it's theirs and I don't own any part of it.", then it shouldn't matter.

Maybe one day in the future, Freemantle will get a better director or copyright laws won't be so strict anymore.


Remember, Fremantle wants to make money with Ludia's video games.


Perhaps Jon could just release the SWFs to update to the season 40 version?
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: BigJon on July 12, 2011, 06:49:07 PM
I hate Fremantle even more after seeing that. :-(

Unfortunately, in all the fine print, that's not good enough.  They can do what they want to do.. So many things they own have been shut down and removed all across the net (blogs, sites, programs, etc)

Here you go.... Maybe one day....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNkKdYZPdCY
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: 444dd on July 12, 2011, 08:32:46 PM
Jon WHY do you tease. same thing as the mountain climber said
I hate Fremantle even more after seeing that. :-(
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: Season36Fan on July 12, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
Does all that copyright crap even matter?

As long as you say, "It's not mine, it's theirs and I don't own any part of it.", then it shouldn't matter.

themountainclimber touched on this, but let me try to explain their position on "that copyright crap".  Fremanltle has a large investment in The Price is Right, speaking strictly monetarily.   It is their IP (intellectual property).    If you went out and built a house to rent, you would be entitled to the rent, not your neighbor, right?   The same principle applies... they invest in their brand, and they are entitled to make all the money that can be made from it, and no one else.   You wouldn't let your neighbor rent out the basement of your brand new house, right? 

Even if Jon or others make no money on their "fan creations" they are still riding the coattails of Fremantle's success... and if someone enjoys Jon's game, they just might not buy Ludia's, or play the facebook game, or what have you.   Fremantle has every right to both request and require the stoppage of anything that prevents them (or could prevent them) from fully capitalizing on their investment... just like you could throw your neighbor's tenants out of your basement without any problem - they're trespassers.

While some companies allow fans to create and publish their tribute work as long as they do not profit from it, others do not.  Fremantle falls into the latter category, and that's just that. 


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Maybe one day in the future, Freemantle will get a better director or copyright laws won't be so strict anymore.

Fremantle would do well to embrace their fans, I agree.  Paramount does this with the Star Trek franchise, and there are some great fan created episodes, movies, and stories which are published for free viewing.       As for copyright laws becoming less stringent, they won't, and shouldn't.   Copyright laws protect content creators, which is a good thing. 
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: wheelfan1991 on July 13, 2011, 12:12:36 PM
This is what really puzzles me, and someone set me straight if you can....but, howcome Jon's Price is pulled from his website by Dismantle yet he can still broadcast it on BlogTV and allows users to play it? Wouldn't Dismantle want that stopped to? Or is it they just don't know that he does it?
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: Wayoshi on July 13, 2011, 12:13:53 PM
This is what really puzzles me, and someone set me straight if you can....but, howcome Jon's Price is pulled from his website by Dismantle yet he can still broadcast it on BlogTV and allows users to play it? Wouldn't Dismantle want that stopped to? Or is it they just don't know that he does it?
The creator himself can play it, but he can't distribute it widely to others. That's how I understand it.

Additionally, BlogTV is very lax on silly rules
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: offerta on July 13, 2011, 02:45:51 PM
 :roll:
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: Scott5114 on July 13, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
As for copyright laws becoming less stringent, they won't, and shouldn't.   Copyright laws protect content creators, which is a good thing. 

I disagree with this. In Just for Fun, the autobiography of Linux creator Linus Torvalds, he spends a chapter discussing various forms of IP protection, focusing specifically on how they apply to software. He points out a lot of absurdities in the system that do little to protect creators' rights but do a lot to cause lawsuits. I recommend reading it if you have the time; the entire book is a fascinating read.

Copyright reform is badly needed in the US, but there's little political will to get it done because the big corporations that benefit the most from the current IP law have the most clout—the average citizen of the US doesn't know and doesn't care much about copyright law. Disney, in particular, I have heard has been successful in getting copyright law modified to extend copyright terms, preventing Mickey Mouse from falling into the public domain.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: 3DSETDESIGNER on July 13, 2011, 09:53:04 PM
Unfortunately, in all the fine print, that's not good enough.  They can do what they want to do.. So many things they own have been shut down and removed all across the net (blogs, sites, programs, etc)

Here you go.... Maybe one day....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNkKdYZPdCY
hey bigjon are you posting a form for tpir game?
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: estes24 on July 14, 2011, 11:39:23 PM
Additionally, BlogTV is very lax on silly rules

Apparently Youtube is not the same way as its look like they have unfortunately terminated Bigjon's account.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: kianworld on July 15, 2011, 12:52:59 AM
Apparently Youtube is not the same way as its look like they have unfortunately terminated Bigjon's account.
As said from his BlogTV, he said it got terminated because of a video of how to sign up to this one website, not the games. He's trying to get it back without making a BigJon07 or something.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: 3DSETDESIGNER on July 15, 2011, 01:06:16 AM
As said from his BlogTV, he said it got terminated because of a video of how to sign up to this one website, not the games. He's trying to get it back without making a BigJon07 or something.
i don't think it's just youtube it's self.Maybe fremantle media haves to do something with this... :roll:
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: wheelfan1991 on July 15, 2011, 01:39:01 AM
Whew! Well, at least is wasn't from his games! But, I still fell so bad for Jon...Why must bad things happen to good people? I see nothing wrong with what he has done! I mean, it's just some fun among a few hundred friends....not the entire Price nation....DISmantle, why must you be so mean?
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on July 15, 2011, 02:10:07 AM
Wow the last two posts proves nothing in "Read Above" department. Kian just said, and I can back up the statement that this had nothing to do with Fremantle in any way. There was supposedly a crack down on How-To videos around YouTube. Do not go freaking out that Fremantle had any involvement, and I would really suggest this thread get locked now. People: READ before you post.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: 3DSETDESIGNER on July 15, 2011, 02:39:00 AM
my apologies,i wasn't trying to sound mean or anything like that,but yeah i take that back.And yes i just didn't pay attention that well to the post.Also i was trying to find the fourm for TPIR season 38 version of BJ game could never find it.So i looked around here on GR.net and found outthat it was removed or w/e happend.But anyways again my apologies i hope i didn't offend anyone...  :-(
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: kianworld on July 17, 2011, 08:25:13 PM
Welp, he made a new account, GameJ06.
http://www.youtube.com/GameJ06 (http://www.youtube.com/GameJ06)
I hope he re-uploads those videos again...
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: JoePlinko on July 28, 2011, 07:55:27 PM
Looks like site down again.  Anyone else having issues?
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: themountainclimber on July 28, 2011, 08:01:37 PM
Forum's fine, but main site's down.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: JoePlinko on July 28, 2011, 08:58:51 PM
Happen to have that address?
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: JonSea31 on July 29, 2011, 07:39:43 AM
I notice on Jon's new page that there are no game-show related video clips or any clips showcasing his game show PC game creations.

Also, I noticed that a video of BigJon's TPIR creation is on hellurz06's page.  Makes me wonder if that is another one of BigJon's YouTube pages that he plans on showcasing his PC game creations and not just TPIR?

Plus, I think the Season 40 update is the best version he ever made so far!  Not to mention a close-up of George Gray's reaction to the overbid is prevalent!  It's too bad he won't release the game to the public anymore.

However, I wonder if BigJon will make a one-time allowance and let us have a copy of his Season 40 game as long as he does what he did with the last release?  Even if he has to release it privately?
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: thepriceis_J on July 29, 2011, 08:09:47 AM
However, I wonder if BigJon will make a one-time allowance and let us have a copy of his Season 40 game as long as he does what he did with the last release?  Even if he has to release it privately?
The best bet is to not ask and wait patiently. I personally don't hold my breath for any update of The Price is Right, as I know asking is practically the same as asking him to put himself on the line at risk to face Fremantle's wrath. If Jon is willing to make that risk, I'll jump for joy; if he isn't, than that too is ok.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: themountainclimber on July 29, 2011, 08:12:15 AM
Perhaps he could do what JonSea31 is currently doing with a certain other game.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: Guint on July 29, 2011, 08:59:16 AM
The best bet is to not ask and wait patiently. I personally don't hold my breath for any update of The Price is Right, as I know asking is practically the same as asking him to put himself on the line at risk to face Fremantle's wrath. If Jon is willing to make that risk, I'll jump for joy; if he isn't, than that too is ok.

If you read thoroughly, it wasn't Fremantle BigJon was having problems with.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: JonSea31 on July 29, 2011, 10:51:15 AM
Perhaps he could do what JonSea31 is currently doing with a certain other game.

Actually, further development is on hold, due to "burnout" and some pricing games remaining that may be too complex for me to code.  I may resume development someday down the road, but I am not sure when that will be.

Since a few weeks ago, I am working on two game show PC games that are likely "safe" and may put me in much lesser risk.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: JonSea31 on July 29, 2011, 10:52:44 AM
If you read thoroughly, it wasn't Fremantle BigJon was having problems with.

He was referring to my post about a Season 40 update, not the thread's original topic.

And we all know that Fremantle is not to blame.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: vadernader on July 29, 2011, 01:51:40 PM
However, I wonder if BigJon will make a one-time allowance and let us have a copy of his Season 40 game as long as he does what he did with the last release?  Even if he has to release it privately?

The thing is, if he makes that one release, then everyone gets instant gratification until Season 41 rolls along then everyone wants another new update. If he releases it and people upload videos of his S40 game all over than Fremantle will clearly know he released it and bring his behind to jail. I don't think it's worth going to jail so that people can keep wanting more and more updates. Everyday he said he gets a ton of PM's on youtube/here and emails asking for an update, I don't think that's the best way to go about trying to get one, by nagging, but that's just me.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: themountainclimber on July 29, 2011, 01:57:51 PM
Well, did Fremantle ever say how much they want for a license? I know that Fremantle when shut down Pacdude's bombombombomwooooo.com button, they said they wanted $300 for a 1-year license (pacdudegames.com/fail (http://pacdudegames.com/fail) if you still want to donate). Maybe if enough people donated money (like on the wooooo page), Jon could get a license for a year?

Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: JonSea31 on July 29, 2011, 01:59:55 PM
Well, I guess one way to get access to a Season 40 game:  Create my own and play it to my heart's content.

That said, I am very questionable about releasing the game at all.  I probably may strongly reconsider by not releasing the game at all.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: vadernader on July 29, 2011, 04:57:19 PM
Well, did Fremantle ever say how much they want for a license? I know that Fremantle when shut down Pacdude's bombombombomwooooo.com button, they said they wanted $300 for a 1-year license (pacdudegames.com/fail (http://pacdudegames.com/fail) if you still want to donate). Maybe if enough people donated money (like on the wooooo page), Jon could get a license for a year?



If they did want a license, were talking thousands, not hundreds...Howver they dont want the game released at all, even for thousands.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: themountainclimber on August 04, 2011, 05:37:56 PM
Looks like his forum's down... hopefully it'll be back up soon.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: JonSea31 on August 04, 2011, 08:14:57 PM
Yep.  The forum is down.  I wonder what the reason could be?  Something wrong with his server, perhaps?

Also, I did try to access the forums from the Forum tab on the main page.  The Download tab would highlight no problem, but the forum tab doesn't highlight at all.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: nowhammies11 on August 05, 2011, 09:04:40 PM
It's been that way for a number of years now.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: Thommann256 on July 21, 2020, 08:24:48 PM
 :lock: xlx Does anyone know where I can get TPIR game version 7.12.7 by Big Jon
please reply if you do
Thank you,
Thommann256
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: tpir04 on July 21, 2020, 08:27:59 PM
You can't. He got slapped with a C&D many years ago, therefore distribution of the game by him or anyone else is illegal.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: bigblue999 on July 21, 2020, 08:32:13 PM
Not only is it gone but it’s also a security nightmare with Flash, which will be discontinued very soon.
Title: Re: BigJon's down?
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on July 21, 2020, 09:28:11 PM
I log into this forum for two minutes for a break away from the cesspool that is social media, just to lock a thread brought back to life by an obvious troll... 🙄