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Title: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: bigblue999 on November 18, 2019, 01:19:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHaYMa9j6PI

This will be the first time Jeopardy will be on network television since Super Jeopardy in 1990.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: imhomerjay on November 18, 2019, 01:22:58 PM
This should be some amazing viewing. A minimum of three nights of outstanding competition.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: gamesurf on November 18, 2019, 01:52:23 PM
Called it!

I 100% expect a Ken/James/Brad match to happen sometime within the next few years.  Even if it gets outright staged as a Watson-like exhibition event. There's just too much earned press to leave on the table.

Extremely impressive that it will be on network prime time. But it’s a great fit; Jeopardy! is having a perfect storm of publicity and public goodwill right now.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 18, 2019, 03:06:46 PM
I wonder if it will be a points system again like in 1990. I can see that......also wonder if Alex references Super Jeopardy, seeing as he evidently has forgotten it over the years, given his archive of TV interview years back and from what I have heard about how he's responded about it in studio if asked.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: imhomerjay on November 18, 2019, 03:12:08 PM
Zero reason to mention Super Jeopardy. No one (figuratively) remembers nor cares about it.

Each night is two games, or one match. Total score from the night’s two games is the winner of the match. Three matches wins the tournament.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 18, 2019, 03:18:17 PM
Zero reason to mention Super Jeopardy. No one (figuratively) remembers nor cares about it

Well I wouldn't say zero, there would be reason to in the sense of that being the only other time it was on a network directly in Primetime in his era. I could see it at least being brought up to Alex ahead of time to potentially reference on the first night. But shall see.

Someone elsewhere incidentally brought up the point of.....what if Alex announced his retirement at the end of this...and this was his swan song as it were. That could be likely.....given the grandeur of this.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: imhomerjay on November 18, 2019, 03:25:18 PM
Something that happened decades ago is irrelevant. A few game show diehards care, that’s it. This is about these three players.

If his health continues to deteriorate, sure, it could mark a heck of an exit. But I think this is more a confluence of other circumstances and not the plan going in.

Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 18, 2019, 03:30:14 PM
Something that happened decades ago is irrelevant. A few game show diehards care, that’s it. This is about these three players.

I understand that, but I can still see it mentioned just in passing. Alex has referenced the past before, but I guess we will see. This will be a hell of an event either way though for sure.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on November 18, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Let's be honest. Super Jeopardy sucked.

That said, I'd rather ask him about Malcolm.

Regardless, the TOC is still money based, so this will be as well.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 18, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Let's be honest. Super Jeopardy sucked.

That said, I'd rather ask him about Malcolm.

Regardless, the TOC is still money based, so this will be as well.

Why do you think it did? And Malcolm also sucked lol. That is brutal to watch honestly.

You just brought up a good point actually, would it be safe to assume then that....for 2nd and 3rd place the totals would amount to either the base payout or their score for the whole tournament if that was higher? I'm a little curious if they may go that route, although the nature of it would make that a bit more complicated vs. a regular TOC.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: imhomerjay on November 18, 2019, 04:00:51 PM
Given the total possible number of games, were it my money, I would make it flat payouts.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 18, 2019, 04:03:16 PM
Given the total possible number of games, were it my money, I would make it flat payouts.

Yeah...kinda my thinking, also where I'd think it might be point based, but may well be wrong.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on November 18, 2019, 04:03:53 PM
Given the total possible number of games, were it my money, I would make it flat payouts.

Since the concept, like the TOC, is winning games, it  will be flat payouts. None of three will break $250,000 in winnings to break that barrier and definitely zero will hit $1MM.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: imhomerjay on November 18, 2019, 04:17:47 PM
Absolutely the million is safe. I was solely thinking about the 250 grand prizes.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: RatRace10 on November 18, 2019, 06:11:59 PM
That's exciting, but it's too bad that Wheel of Fortune still hasn't been given its time in the primetime spotlight yet. It's really the only game show that hasn't, and it's unfortunate that it's still the case after all these decades. Granted, a tournament like this wouldn't work for WOF, but a celebrity special or miniseries or something would be nice.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: ThomHuge on November 18, 2019, 06:23:39 PM
...but a celebrity special...would be nice.

Please for the love of sliced cheese, NO. Gameshow celebrity specials have long since lost their appeal for me, in large part because Feud did it, WWTBAM did it, Weakest Link did it, and then TPiR did it, and all except the last one did it right before they met their untimely ends (or in Feud's case, right before they changed hosts). TPiR has run the concept into the ground for me thanks to the glut of "specials" they've done that needlessly included guest stars.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: Casey on November 18, 2019, 06:33:50 PM
That's exciting, but it's too bad that Wheel of Fortune still hasn't been given its time in the primetime spotlight yet. It's really the only game show that hasn't, and it's unfortunate that it's still the case after all these decades.
Given that Wheel of Fortune, in most markets, airs just before or during primetime anyway, who would really know the difference?
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: imhomerjay on November 18, 2019, 06:55:45 PM
That's exciting, but it's too bad that Wheel of Fortune still hasn't been given its time in the primetime spotlight yet. It's really the only game show that hasn't, and it's unfortunate that it's still the case after all these decades. Granted, a tournament like this wouldn't work for WOF, but a celebrity special or miniseries or something would be nice.

Maybe that’s because the powers that be realize there’s no need for it. Had it not been for James, this would not have happened. This isn’t trying to appease young siblings by making things “equal.”
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 18, 2019, 06:59:56 PM
Please for the love of sliced cheese, NO. Gameshow celebrity specials have long since lost their appeal for me, in large part because Feud did it, WWTBAM did it, Weakest Link did it, and then TPiR did it, and all except the last one did it right before they met their untimely ends (or in Feud's case, right before they changed hosts). TPiR has run the concept into the ground for me thanks to the glut of "specials" they've done that needlessly included guest stars.

Funny enough, in Australia years back, in the John Burgress era of that show, a Celebrity Wheel was aired for a short period on Saturday Nights. So it has been done before in a Primetime setting, just not here lol.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: Superballer on November 18, 2019, 09:55:08 PM
I was hoping we'd eventually see a Ken vs. James showdown, and so we indeed will--and of course better to do it now while Alex still can preside over it.  By all means pass along more information as it comes. 
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: JayC on November 18, 2019, 11:16:14 PM
A Ken vs Brad vs James matchup was just waiting to happen. Excellent that not only is it happening but it's going to be in primetime network television. Very interesting that it will be first to three wins rather than the traditional tournament format also, I was hoping they would do something like that with this matchup or a future milestone anniversary tournament.

Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: dagdoggnh on November 19, 2019, 10:09:10 AM
Holzhauer cut a wrestling-style promo on Jennings and Rutter via Twitter, inspired by an Scott Steiner promo from TNA Wrestling(now called Impact Wrestling): https://wrestlingrumors.net/tommyhall/crossover-star-jeopardy-champion-james-holzhauer-cuts-wrestling-promo-upcoming-jeopardy-tournament-opponents-awesome/ (https://wrestlingrumors.net/tommyhall/crossover-star-jeopardy-champion-james-holzhauer-cuts-wrestling-promo-upcoming-jeopardy-tournament-opponents-awesome/)
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: Teddy on November 20, 2019, 06:17:58 AM
Please for the love of sliced cheese, NO. Gameshow celebrity specials have long since lost their appeal for me, in large part because Feud did it, WWTBAM did it, Weakest Link did it, and then TPiR did it, and all except the last one did it right before they met their untimely ends (or in Feud's case, right before they changed hosts). TPiR has run the concept into the ground for me thanks to the glut of "specials" they've done that needlessly included guest stars.
Except that there have never been any celebrity contestants on TPIR, and Game$how Marathon and (pre-WOF) Vanna White's appearance don't count.

It'll be interesting to note that for the first time in 30 years, ABC will air a primetime special of J!, and I'm going to wager (no pun intended) that the Ken-Brad-James matchup will be even more memorable than the Super J! series before it, as they are the three greatest players ever.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: ThomHuge on November 20, 2019, 06:38:00 AM
Except that there have never been any celebrity contestants on TPIR, and Game$how Marathon and (pre-WOF) Vanna White's appearance don't count.

If you'd read my post more closely, you'd have seen that I was referring in TPiR's case to all the times they had extraneous celebrity guest stars. Jack Wagner, the Dollyrots, and all the one-offs like Ed Begley Jr that had no business being on the show at all.

You'd also have seen that I was pointing out that Price has run the concept of doing "specials" into the ground. The glut of needless theme shows has grown just as old.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 20, 2019, 01:10:51 PM
Except that there have never been any celebrity contestants on TPIR, and Game$how Marathon and (pre-WOF) Vanna White's appearance don't count.

Actually yes there has been although loosely based with them being reality show stars, when they did the 3 episode Primetime Series involving contestants from Survivor, Big Brother and The Amazing Race a few years ago.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 20, 2019, 01:14:14 PM
If you'd read my post more closely, you'd have seen that I was referring in TPiR's case to all the times they had extraneous celebrity guest stars. Jack Wagner, the Dollyrots, and all the one-offs like Ed Begley Jr that had no business being on the show at all.

To be fair, Barker's era would occasionally do this too. Not as often maybe, but here and there it was done over his run, both before the Primetime craze you spoke of and after it. So the cameo appearances concept is not a Carey era only thing by any means.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: ThomHuge on November 20, 2019, 05:04:04 PM
To be fair, Barker's era would occasionally do this too. Not as often maybe, but here and there it was done over his run, both before the Primetime craze you spoke of and after it. So the cameo appearances concept is not a Carey era only thing by any means.

Yes, I'm aware he had occasional appearances by others--Mark Goodson's appearance comes to mind, and I want to say he had both Bob Eubanks and Ray Combs on at some point. So I know they're not Carey-only.

My point is still the same: the Carey era took something that could easily work in moderation and took it to a gross excess.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: imhomerjay on November 20, 2019, 07:45:39 PM
Except that it works quite well for them and suits the TV landscape in 2019 well. So there’s that.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: ThomHuge on November 20, 2019, 07:55:28 PM
Except that it works quite well for them and suits the TV landscape in 2019 well. So there’s that.

Except that they're also showing a lot more restraint these days when they do have a guest star, and it's not such a huge distraction (or constant annoyance in Jack Wagner's case) anymore. So there's that.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: pricefan18 on November 20, 2019, 08:54:18 PM
Yes, I'm aware he had occasional appearances by others--Mark Goodson's appearance comes to mind, and I want to say he had both Bob Eubanks and Ray Combs on at some point. So I know they're not Carey-only.

My point is still the same: the Carey era took something that could easily work in moderation and took it to a gross excess.

I can't argue that one. I'm not the hugest fan of some of the special shows they do to that end...though not celebrity driven that one.....it gets to be a lot. Almost like what Wheel has become with themes every week.
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: bigblue999 on December 09, 2019, 11:52:44 PM
This is what the set will look like (https://i.redd.it/rdlxf4adsp341.png)
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: SamJ93 on December 10, 2019, 12:02:10 AM
Is it just me, or does Ken look a lot like Alex Trebek in that photo?
Title: Re: Jeopardy To Host Tournament With Ken, Brad, & James On ABC
Post by: Gerald78 on December 10, 2019, 12:49:34 PM
Is it just me, or does Ken look a lot like Alex Trebek in that photo?

Yup, put a "stache" on him and there ya go :)