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Title: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on July 31, 2020, 11:28:50 PM
The 101st season, which will mark 50 years since the NFL Merger, is slated to begin on Thursday, September 10, 2020 in Kansas City.  Currently, it is scheduled to conclude on Sunday, February 7, 2021 in Tampa.  For the 15th time since 2004, the season will begin with the defending champions hosting another opponent; this year features the Kansas City Chiefs vs the Houston Texans.  For the most part at least, the opening game features a rematch of a notable game from the previous season (if not a notable historic rivalry).  The home team/champs winning percentage is at least 80%.  Other games scheduled in Week One include 12 Sunday games on Fox and CBS including a CBS/Fox game of the week at 4:25, then the primetime slate with Sunday Night Football on NBC and the annual opening double-header on ESPN.

As of present time, everything is scheduled to start on time, but there is cause for concern given the number of opt-outs added to the mess that has occurred in Major League Baseball.  No secondary plans yet, or if there are, they haven't been disclosed to the public.

Pandemic aside, big news post Super Bowl 54 to present time includes this being the first year since the beginning of the Century & Millennium that Belichick and Brady are not on the same team.  The Raiders are now in Vegas, and the playoffs have expanded to 7 teams per conference.  That rewards the 7-best AFC or NFC team at the expense of the 2nd best AFC/NFC team
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on July 31, 2020, 11:34:48 PM
I like the 7 team per conference playoff format because it makes the 1 seed more important. In the past, with 2 1st round byes, there was actually a bigger difference between between being a 2 seed or a 3 seed than between being a 1 or a 2 seed. Only one 1st round bye per conference makes the 1 seed more important and that's a good thing.

I would expect more from the Buccaneers than the Patriots. I believe Vrady made Belichick in New England. Belichick wasn't all of that in Cleveland before Brady.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: JayC on August 01, 2020, 12:03:41 PM
Hopefully the season does indeed happen and there's not the kind of case outbreak we're seeing in the MLB that's causing several postponements. It will be interesting to see how the very atypical offseason effects teams and which teams are best set to work through it.

Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 01, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
I like the 7 team per conference playoff format because it makes the 1 seed more important. In the past, with 2 1st round byes, there was actually a bigger difference between between being a 2 seed or a 3 seed than between being a 1 or a 2 seed. Only one 1st round bye per conference makes the 1 seed more important and that's a good thing.

I would expect more from the Buccaneers than the Patriots. I believe Vrady made Belichick in New England. Belichick wasn't all of that in Cleveland before Brady.


It was probably time for playoff expansion, but I would've been okay if they had kept it as it was.  Now, if they go to 8, that would be fitting.  It would complete the unintentional move to eliminate teams with bye weeks (it actually used to be three teams until 1990).  However, it might be criticized unless the NFL can add more teams into its league (from 32 to 36).  In my opinion, there should be more teams soon, but it doesn't appear that way; it's been nearly 20 years.

I could go either way as it relates to Belichick and Brady.  Some people forget about Cleveland, or choose to disregard the fact that this is Bill's second stint as a head coach, not his first and only.  He did turn it around late with the Browns before the move to Baltimore.  The thing is Tom doesn't play defense, and Coach Belichick has had a ton of success as it relates to defense (in addition to his offensive inputs).  Too be fair to Bill, we've seen him succeed without Brady (in 2008), while we'll never know with Tom.  As in prime Brady.  Tom is great as what he does, but he does have his weaknesses that have cost him.  The good thing is that most of his opponents didn't have the skills or personnel to get to him.  Only a handful have (Ravens, Broncos, Giants).  Belichick's weaknesses can and have been addressed.

Tom Brady has helped Bill Belichick during those 20 years, but the coach has evolved into something else.  I doubt we'd see two decades of this dominance with Brady, but Bill would've had success regardless.  The guy was a mastermind as DC in New York
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Superballer on August 01, 2020, 10:10:19 PM
If everything's able to go on as scheduled, I think Kansas City has a reasonably good chance to repeat.  Baltimore, if they can maintain what they had going last year, has to be considered a strong contender as well.  In the NFC, San Francisco could well repeat too; I think Seattle has a good chance as well. 
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on August 02, 2020, 04:57:57 PM
Hopefully the season does indeed happen and there's not the kind of case outbreak we're seeing in the MLB that's causing several postponements. It will be interesting to see how the very atypical offseason effects teams and which teams are best set to work through it.

A significant difference between MLB and the NFL is that the MLB fought during the pandemic over money, whereas the NFL fought during the pandemic over safely protocols.  Baseball was so focused on the CBA that they disregarded what was important.  During early testing the league dropped the ball, and now with the nonsense Miami pulled they've stopped at nothing to make sure their season sorta fails or doesn't happen.  The NFL will make sure an outbreak doesn't occur over carelessness.  If there is a setback through no faults then that's that.  However, if, say Cleveland has 2 or 3 dozen players test positive because they went to Atlanta to party, then the Browns would likely get punished to a point where they're kicked out for 2020.

I think the biggest concern is with the injuries that'll happen this year due to the lack of training and conditioning.  The thing that'll suck is if there's a major injury that trickles into 2021.  People will say that these athletes could have worked out on their own & that they should've known better.  The problem is that they couldn't this year, obviously.

If everything's able to go on as scheduled, I think Kansas City has a reasonably good chance to repeat.  Baltimore, if they can maintain what they had going last year, has to be considered a strong contender as well.  In the NFC, San Francisco could well repeat too; I think Seattle has a good chance as well. 


I do like Kansas City's chances.  They are respecting everything that's going on, and it looks like the pandemic won't stop them (unless the season is cancelled).  I think Baltimore might take them out, though I think it might occur if the Ravens are the underdog and/or road team.  The Niners should be okay, but I think Seattle could've knocked them off last year, except they literally punted to the 2020 season at Lambeau

Fixed maligned quoting.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on August 02, 2020, 05:12:54 PM
I Chiefs in the AFC, maybe the Titans could be their biggest threat as Derrick Henry is the best Running Back in the NFL just like Patrick Mahomes is the best Quarterback.

It's a close call for the NFC between the 49ers and the Seahawks. Maybe adding a pro bowl player like Jamaal Adams puts the Seahawks over the 49ers? Also, the Seahawks clearly have the better quarterback as Wilson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Garoppolo.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on August 02, 2020, 05:31:12 PM
To paraphrase Johnny Carson: The Falcons will be going to the Super Bowl. They'll be in aisle 350, row 25, seats 1-30. (Unless the Coronavirus persists, then they'll be watching from section HD.)
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Superballer on August 02, 2020, 09:49:39 PM
Other possible contenders: 

-Buffalo has a chance to seize control of the AFC East should New England finally falter, as they appear poised for some kind of breakout and seem closer than Miami (who does seem to be getting there) to being a legitimate division champion 

-although Aaron Rodgers appear to be starting his decline, never count Green Bay out when he's under center 

-same with New Orleans with Drew Brees calling the shots 

-Philadelphia could be a dark horse contender if all goes right and they finally have better injury luck, and while Dallas' offense might have strong potency, I'd give the Eagles a slight edge for being a more complete team and a steadier coaching staff (and with Dallas having squandered their chance to get Prescott to a deal without having to pay the gross national product of a small country, Elliott arguably being overused, and the offensive line getting older, perhaps their window's only going to be open a little bit longer)

-and Pittsburgh always manages to contend to some degree each year, and may again be a surprise. 
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on September 10, 2020, 08:56:28 PM
Former Cardinal David Johnson, now playing for the Texans has scored the first touchdown of the season. Good on him, but as a Cardinals fan, I hope he doesn't prove to be "the one that got away."
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: JayC on September 10, 2020, 11:07:05 PM
The Cardinals did get DeAndre Hopkins from the deal, so it's not like they gave away (injury prone) David Johnson for nothing.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on September 10, 2020, 11:24:35 PM
The Chiefs ultimately go on a 31-0 run after that 1st Texans touchdown and go on to win 34-20. The Chiefs looked like the AFC favorites that they are.

With Brady, Rodgers, and Gronkowski past their primes, Mahomes and Kelce are the best quarterback and tight end in the NFL right now.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: jude_este on September 13, 2020, 02:42:15 PM
At the half, Philly leads the Washington Football Team 17-7, with the Eagles secondary being strong against the struggling Washington offense for the majority of the first half. As for New England in their first regular season game without Tom Brady, they lead Miami 14-3 as of this post.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on September 13, 2020, 04:09:16 PM
Atlanta's Matt Ryan put up some high caliber stats--36 for 53, 434 yards, 2 TDs--only to come up short against Russell Wilson and the Seahawks, 38-25. Too many missed opportunities. Two failed fourth down conversions, a fake punt that got fumbled and the incapability to stop the Seattle pass game. The Falcons would have been booed off the field if there had been a crowd (canned crowd noise can't boo).

As for Washington, looks like they got their second wind. They beat Philly, 27-17.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on September 13, 2020, 04:22:16 PM
Some things don't change: The Browns still suck, the Lions still find ways to blow it, the Patriots still win, and Aaron Rodgers still throws touchdowns.

The Patriots win Cam Newton's debut 21-11 behind Newton's 2 rushing touchdowns. Newton now has 60 career rushing touchdowns.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on September 13, 2020, 07:44:53 PM
YES! My Cardinals are 1-0 after being the 49ers 24-20! :) DeAndre Hopkins had a stellar debut with 14 receptions for 150 yards, including a key 4th quarter catch that set up the go ahead touchdown. Kyler Murray threw for 230 yards and 1 touchdown in the game. GO CARDINALS!
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 14, 2020, 07:11:38 AM
Based on yesterday, looks like Cleveland is in mid-season form as it relates to their efforts to acquire Trevor Lawrence.  Meanwhile, if the Pats somehow get the Clemson star, they'll do so in a different way
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: PatrickRox80 on September 14, 2020, 09:41:26 PM
Same old Giants.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 15, 2020, 01:36:48 PM
Same old Giants.

I think people were saying that about the Steelers, as it relates to their annual tradition of losing games (to teams) they have no business losing (to).

It's one week.  Sure, it might make the difference in the end, though at least most times other factors lead to a teamís placement in the standings (regular and post season) after all is said and done.  It might take until November 5-9 which is the mid-point of the season for teams to figure out everything and stay fit for NFL football.

Personally, my concern is more than the lack of pre-season games, off-season workouts, and watered-down training camp, leading to a watered-down product.  The Giants did not look great last night, but the team that beat them wasted no time losing players due to injury.  That could have a domino effect throughout the season
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on September 20, 2020, 04:41:46 PM
Atlanta blew leads of 29-10 and 39-24 and lost to Dallas, 40-39. What doomed them was the failure to properly recover Dallas'  onside kick. Instead of falling on the ball, the Falcons just let it roll ten yards and allowed Dallas to recover it. The Cowboys kicked the winning field goal with :00 left.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: jude_este on September 20, 2020, 04:54:46 PM
While Dallas celebrated there come from behind win against Atlanta. Sources are telling ESPN that the New York Giants are fearing that running back Saquon Barkley tore the ACL in his right knee after trainers carried him off the field after a run early in the first quarter against the Chicago Bears and appeared to be in serious pain.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29929409/new-york-giants-saquon-barkley-carried-come-back
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 20, 2020, 05:07:10 PM
I didn't follow the Giants game that much (I'm actually tuning into the US Open during the period of all the sports at the same time).  I did hear about it and saw an image of him being carried off, and I was not happy.  Wasn't sure of the injury, but before the fears set in, I didn't for once think it was a minor thing where New York was being cautious for their star RB.

That sucks for the Giants, but I though Barkley was in danger last Monday against Pittsburgh.  Speaking of which, New York is coming off of a short week playing a Sunday afternoon game following a Monday night game. This in a season where injuries are slated to occur more often than the norm
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on September 20, 2020, 07:46:32 PM
Yes!! My Cardinals are 2-0 after coming away with a 30-15 win over the Washington Football Team as Kyler Murray threw a touchdown pass to DeAndre Hopkins and ran for 2 himself. :) Go Cardinals.

The Cowboys only had a 2% win probability halfway through the 4th 1/4. Amazing win for the Cowboys as the ghost of 28-3 came back to haunt the Falcons again.

Josh Allen threw for 417 yards and 4 touchdowns as the Bills went to 2-0 with a 31-28 win over the Dolphins.

I'm REALLY surprised that the Bears are 2-0. When Scott Hanson ran through a list of 2-0 teams and the Bears were on it, I gasped. This is a genuine intuitive surprise to me.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs are 2-0 as Patrick Mahomes did his thing in the 4th 1/4 and is 9-0 in September. Harrison Butker made a game tying 30 yard field goal on the last play of regulation and an incredible game winning 58 yard field goal in overtime! Wow!

The team in Washington has finally got rid of that offensive nickname; I'd ask you to not use it as well. Sure the current name is silly, but it exists for a very good reason.

Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: therealcu2010 on September 20, 2020, 09:27:19 PM
Just because I've already edited one post-

The football team in our nation's capital is currently called the "Washington Football Team". Their former nickname is offensive to Native Americans and has rightfully and mercifully been retired. As such, I'd ask that nobody use said nickname in this thread as well. It's in the past. Leave it there. The current name might be silly, but it's their name; let's use it until they come up with something better.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on September 26, 2020, 10:54:10 AM
Unconfirmed scuttlebutt on Atlanta sports talk radio is that Dan Quinn's job is riding on the next two games (Chicago,  @ Green Bay). They're favored against Chicago,  an underdog against the Packers.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 26, 2020, 05:35:55 PM
For some reason I didnít think about a mid-season change in Atlanta.  I did think of an off season move before 2021 Football for sure; Atlanta might win some games, but 0-2 with New Orleans & Tampa twice in 2020 + Kansas City doesnít add up to 14 wins easily.  Anyway, I didnít factor in Danís interim replacement for some reason.  The pandemic and the thought of Atlanta playing for Trevor Lawrence factored into why I never considered the head coach in any immediate danger.  That blown game against Dallas was so not good.

Mr. Blank might kick out Quinn if they lose to Chicago.  While they used to beat Green Bay all the time, I donít think so this time.  Chicago is a surprise this year; Atlanta might start 0-4, and then Dan Quinn would be gone for sure.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: JayC on September 26, 2020, 09:54:12 PM
Can't see Atlanta moving on from Matt Ryan even if they had the #1 pick and could get Trevor Lawrence. Too much money tied in and too much dead cap if they cut bait.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: therealcu2010 on September 27, 2020, 02:49:38 PM
Damn the Bills look good right now...easily the best I've seen them in years. Could a fifth Super Bowl loss be in the books this year?
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: bigblue999 on September 27, 2020, 03:39:10 PM
The Giants are getting blown out by the half-injured 49ers. The Mara's need to sell the team. They cannot continue to run the franchise on the cheap.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 27, 2020, 03:57:41 PM
I probably would've agreed with the Bills chance at losing in February (and finally, possibly to the Niners), except they had a 28-3 lead
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: therealcu2010 on September 27, 2020, 04:10:15 PM
I don't see how that interception was an interception but whatever. Josh Allen with the statement late after the Rams penalty to improve to 3-0. What a game.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: bigblue999 on September 27, 2020, 04:29:06 PM
Falcons blow another big lead, up 16 going in the 4Q, outscored 20-0 and lose 30-26.

So who's getting fired first?
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on September 27, 2020, 04:32:45 PM
Egads. Again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 27, 2020, 04:38:22 PM
Just when I thought NFL Nation spoke too soon, so did I.


The Bills are for real.  Maybe not Super Bowl contenders, but a very good team.  I still won't put them over New England, and I would've said the same thing had Buffalo won without blowing a 25-point lead.  Still a little bitter that they blew it against a mediocre team in Houston (AFC South), but winning's winning.  The officiating might have been to blame but both Buffalo and the Rams suffered from it.

Atlanta?  Could be it for Dan Quinn.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on September 27, 2020, 04:53:50 PM
I do think the Bills win the AFC East with Josh Allen now elite and Tom Brady out of the division. However, I still like the Chiefs to win the AFC Championship come playoff time.

The big question now is, whose future is more in doubt: Dan Quinn or Mitch Trubisky?
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 27, 2020, 05:12:14 PM
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The big question now is, whose future is more in doubt: Dan Quinn or Mitch Trubisky?

Mitch Trubisky.  Not sure of his contract status, but if he exits Chicago, he'll probably end up on another team as a backup or on their practice squad.  Not that secure.  If Dan Quinn gets fired, while he might not get another HC job right away, he was a very good DC (defensive coordinator).  So with DC's (and OC's) getting head coaching opportunities, it vacates DC positions

I guess we'll see how the AFC East plays out, moneygamelover.  No surprise from me whether it's New England or Buffalo.  Kansas City winning the AFC outright is the safe bet, but I still wouldn't count out Baltimore (even though I haven't fully respected them yet without a playoff win).  Those two AFC powerhouses face each other tomorrow night
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on September 27, 2020, 07:57:57 PM
My Cardinals suffer their 1st loss as a struggling Kyler Murray threw 3 interceptions and Matthew Stafford threw 2 touchdowns as Matt Prater hit a game winning 39 yard field goal st the buzzer.

Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes: "We're MVP candidates. "Russell Wilson: "Hold my beer."
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: jude_este on September 27, 2020, 08:15:23 PM
Despite the Seahawks' Jamal Adams exiting the game with a groin injury, five touchdowns passes by Russell Wilson along with a hat trick by Tyler Lockett towards the end netted them a 38-31 victory over while Dallas falls to 1-2 for the season.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/seahawks-beat-cowboys-behind-wilsons-5-touchdown-passes/2451149/
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 28, 2020, 09:00:44 AM
Can't see Atlanta moving on from Matt Ryan even if they had the #1 pick and could get Trevor Lawrence. Too much money tied in and too much dead cap if they cut bait.

I donít know why I thought Matt Ryanís contract was coming to a close real soon.  I was thinking a 4-year deal after his awesome 2016 run, but it followed the 2017 season for 5 years, $150,000,000.   That goes into 2022.  So, youíre right; thereís no way theyíre parting with Ryan.  Unless the deal is right; the other reason why I said what I said about Matt is that heís in his mid-30s.  Of course, with QBís playing longer, heís got time left.  Besides, heís actually done more than enough to win games for Atlanta.  Dan Quinn has been a disappointment; heís a defensive guy.  Maybe heíd survived with kicking Morris off the team to take complete control of the defense.

Despite the Seahawks' Jamal Adams exiting the game with a groin injury, five touchdowns passes by Russell Wilson along with a hat trick by Tyler Lockett towards the end netted them a 38-31 victory over while Dallas falls to 1-2 for the season.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/seahawks-beat-cowboys-behind-wilsons-5-touchdown-passes/2451149/

Man, if there was a cheat code to turn the Seahawks defense into the 2013-2014 version!  Maybe if Quinn gets fired, Seattle can fire its DC (not a safe bet at all) and Quinn can take over. 
Itís still early, but Mahomes & Lamar might cross each other out.  If Russell can continue this streak with the defense playing the way it has been, it will be his to lose.  Rodgers had a great game last night, so heíll still be in the mix (with no great weapons on offense)
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Archviler on September 28, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
I'm amazed Dan Quinn hasn't been fired after yesterday's game. What a brutal start of the season for Falcons fans. I think at this point you have to move on from Quinn just to cleanse the palate and shift the culture.  Those chokes, crowned by the SB collapse, are going to haunt the franchise for a long time.

I watched my Redskins lose to the Browns yesterday. It's not that big a surprise, but five turnovers was brutal to see. Haskins feels like he regressed several steps and had an awful game, and there's only so much good McLauren can do in spite of being a top tier WR.

Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on September 28, 2020, 11:51:15 PM
The Chiefs are off to a 3-0 start with a 34-20 win over the Ravens on Monday Night Football. Patrick Mahomes threw for 385 yards and 4 touchdowns with no interceptions.

Mahomes is now 10-0 lifetime in September with a touchdown to interception ratio of 32-0! Wow!
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 29, 2020, 07:59:29 AM
That is just brilliant.  Mahomes is who he is.  The more surprising stat is that Lamar is 0-3 against Kansas City, given how he ran over everybody else.  Well, most of them; no playoff teams yet
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 01, 2020, 09:22:47 AM
Sunday's Pittsburgh-Tennessee tilt has been postponed due to several Titans players testing positive for COVID-19.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 01, 2020, 09:48:41 AM
There is a way that Tennessee and Pittsburgh can make it up without any major disruption.  It does involve the Ravens; while it'll be okay, another team can have a similar outbreak.  That includes a team on the Steelers schedule.  If that happens, then it gets very difficult to impossible to reschedule to where everyone plays 16 games (before January 4th)
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: danderson400 on October 03, 2020, 12:54:28 PM
The patriots-Chiefs game is also posptoned.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 03, 2020, 03:27:13 PM
Whether it's until this Monday/Tuesday or indefinitely has yet to be determined.

The reason for the league pushing it back is due to the QB of the Pats testing positive, and members of the Kansas City Chiefs also testing positive
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 04, 2020, 06:12:47 AM
John Kincade (CBS Sports radio): "The Falcons tested positive of choking."
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: JayC on October 04, 2020, 03:36:53 PM
The Patriots vs Chiefs game will be played tomorrow night at 7, as long as there are no more positive test results. Falcons vs Packers has been moved up to an 8:50pm start time.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: mellongraig on October 04, 2020, 04:40:50 PM
Wow, Jaylon Smith pulled a Leon Lett as the Cleveland Browns who were going for the extra point, scored two points on the Cowboys blunder. All in all the Browns won over the Cowboys 49-38, but he's going to have to watch the film and also look back at Thanksgiving 1993.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 04, 2020, 09:59:43 PM
I think that team will have to look at more than Turkey Day 1993 and Leon Lett 2.0 in order to survive what appears to be an NFC East division nobody wants to win
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on October 04, 2020, 10:29:53 PM
The NFC Least is going to come down to who wins the head to heads in the division. They obviously can't best teams outside the division.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: LiteBulb88 on October 04, 2020, 11:33:54 PM
The Eagles beat the 49ers 25-20, giving them a 1-2-1 record and 1st place(!) in the NFC East.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Superballer on October 04, 2020, 11:56:22 PM
Meaning if they can finally get healthy, there is opportunity for them.  They've overcome more dire situations than this before in the last few years, after all. 
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 05, 2020, 08:14:34 AM
Big Brother fans flooding CBS switchboards to kvetch about the football game tonight in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: sayingsorry on October 05, 2020, 07:11:07 PM
Big Brother fans flooding CBS switchboards to kvetch about the football game tonight in 3...2...1...

What fans at this point? With how the season has gone it somehow surprises me that people still watch, but you always have those who are faithful/don't read the internet so who knows
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: PatrickRox80 on October 05, 2020, 09:38:34 PM
The NFL is now enforcing stricter coronavirus guidelines in light of the recent schedule shuffling and the Raiders hosting a charity event without masks. Teams can now be forced to forfeit their games if they don't comply.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-stresses-new-covid-19-protocols-in-memo-says-violations-that-result-in-sched
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 05, 2020, 09:57:36 PM
That would be unprecedented if it came to that: a team forfeiting a game
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: jude_este on October 05, 2020, 10:32:13 PM
After starting the season 0-4, the Houston Texans have fired coach and general manager Bill O'Brien who was with the organization for six seasons and had four AFC South division titles. As for O'Brien's successor, associate head coach Romeo Crennel is taking over as interim head coach for the Texans.

https://www.nfl.com/news/texans-fire-bill-o-brien-as-general-manager-head-coach
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on October 05, 2020, 11:59:21 PM
There are 4 4-0 teams 1/4 of the way into the season. Those teams are the Bills, Seahawks, Chiefs, and Packers. The quarterbacks of those 4 teams, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, and Aaron Rodgers are the MVP candidates at this point with Wilson being the leader of that race right now.

Meanwhile, with the Falcons 0-4, is Dan Quinn about to get the Bill O Brien treatment?
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 06, 2020, 12:12:08 AM
There are 4 4-0 teams 1/4 of the way into the season. Those teams are the Bills, Seahawks, Chiefs, and Packers. The quarterbacks of those 4 teams, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, and Aaron Rodgers are the MVP candidates at this point with Wilson being the leader of that race right now.

Meanwhile, with the Falcons 0-4, is Dan Quinn about to get the Bill O Brien treatment?

I don't think so.  I'd say no for now; possibly next week at the very earliest.  They have a game on Sunday.  It could go either way, but really, it looks like Atlanta could end up 2-14.  OTOH, it could be 4, 5, or 6 wins.  I'm not sure Arthur Blank will kick out Dan Quinn, who's under contract through 2022.  Plus, the teams they've lost to are a combined 12-4 including two undefeated teams.  In addition, they are dealing with a ton of injuries.  At least they didn't blow a lead tonight!


Could've been five teams at 5-0 had it not been for the Tennessee outbreak.  I can see Rodgers passing Wilson for league MVP.  Kansas City & Buffalo might be playing for the best in the AFC.  Allen might need to win that game and conquer New England.  KC is a complete team, possibly more complete than Baltimore was a year ago.  Finally, Rodgers is playing with less, though their defense is much better than Seattle's


I think, if anything, Brian Hoyer will be looking for work before Dan Quinn
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 06, 2020, 06:00:42 AM
From Atlanta's 92.9 "The Game": Falcons will not cut bait with Dan Quinn...yet. The next five games are winnable (giving 3 this week against Carolina), and yes, injuries have been a factor. There was a rumor that Julio Jones was trade bait, but those have since been dispelled.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 11, 2020, 04:00:47 PM
Carolina 23, Atlanta 16. This time, Atlanta blew an early lead. Anybody got a can of spinach for the Falcons?
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 11, 2020, 04:24:01 PM
In Atlanta's defense, Carolina is actually a pretty decent team, but the fact is the Falcons are still 0-5


In better news (albeit rather predictable), Alex Smith saw action for the first time in nearly two years.  Not sure what's next, but when you almost died, and less than 24 months later you got your job back, that is amazing!
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on October 11, 2020, 04:33:15 PM
My Cardinals snap a 2 game losing streak with a 30-10 win over the Jets as Kyler Murray threw for 380 yards and a touchdown and DeAndre Hopkins went for 131 yards and a touchdown.

The Steelers are 4-0 for the 1st time since 1979. I'm legitimately surprised Big Ben hadn't been 4-0 before.

And how bout those Raiders! Derek Carr finally beats the Chiefs. Bet Patrick Mahomes wishes it could be September forevermore.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 11, 2020, 04:39:16 PM
Tony Rodriguez on the OT (Fox postgame) says if Arthur Blank doesn't fire Dan Quinn now, he won't the rest of the season. Houston already sent Bill O'Brien out the door and then they beat Jacksonville.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 11, 2020, 06:09:55 PM
Tony Rodriguez on the OT (Fox postgame) says if Arthur Blank doesn't fire Dan Quinn now, he won't the rest of the season. Houston already sent Bill O'Brien out the door and then they beat Jacksonville.

Per the Athletic, it's all but done.  It likely will be announced on Monday, maybe tonight
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 11, 2020, 06:55:53 PM
Thursday's Kansas City-Buffalo game has been moved to Monday afternoon October 19 at 4:30 PM ET.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: JayC on October 11, 2020, 07:31:38 PM
My Cardinals snap a 2 game losing streak with a 30-10 win over the Jets as Kyler Murray threw for 380 yards and a touchdown and DeAndre Hopkins went for 131 yards and a touchdown.
Very easy to break a losing streak playing the Jets (unfortunately for me, my team).

A slew of schedule changes are coming to several weeks including next week because of the Broncos-Patriots game being moved to next week: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-multiple-schedule-changes-moves-broncos-patriots-to-week-6 (https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-multiple-schedule-changes-moves-broncos-patriots-to-week-6)
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: PatrickRox80 on October 11, 2020, 08:43:08 PM
The Seahawks better clean up those uniforms. It looks like somebody puked on them.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: jude_este on October 11, 2020, 10:12:40 PM
While the Los Angles Lakers in basketball have won the 2020 NBA Championship, the Atlanta Falcons have given coach Dan Quinn and general manager Thomas Dimitroff their walking papers after an 0-5 start.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30093946/atlanta-falcons-fire-coach-dan-quinn-gm-thomas-dimitroff-0-5-start
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 11, 2020, 10:22:34 PM
The Seahawks better clean up those uniforms. It looks like somebody puked on them.

I actually like those neon uniforms.  It might be one too many steps away from their regular uniforms, but it stands out.  Maybe too much, but I'll take those over the Browns uniforms anyday!
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 12, 2020, 06:02:39 AM
While the Los Angles Lakers in basketball have won the 2020 NBA Championship, the Atlanta Falcons have given coach Dan Quinn and general manager Thomas Dimitroff their walking papers after an 0-5 start.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30093946/atlanta-falcons-fire-coach-dan-quinn-gm-thomas-dimitroff-0-5-start
Now watch the Falcons beat Minnesota this Sunday.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 12, 2020, 10:10:13 AM
Falcons defensive coordinator Raheem Morris has been named interim head coach.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 13, 2020, 05:08:34 PM
First, it was Russell with his late game heroics against Minnesota.  Then it was Brees with his late game heroics against the Chargers (back to back primetime games).  Speaking of the Vikings and Falcons playing each other, looks like Los Angeles may have taken the "magic" from Minnesota of saying "No thank you" to massive leads.

Atlanta never really recovered from that Super Bowl loss nearly 4 years ago (they did make the postseason the following season, winning a playoff game); meanwhile there's promise for the Vikings & the Chargers.  Both are better than their record, especially LA.  Really, they both aren't good, but not as bad as their record indicates
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on October 13, 2020, 10:26:43 PM
The Chargers could easily be 3-2. They literally dropped a game winning touchdown pass that would've been the Panthers and missed a game winning field goal that would've beaten the Saints. The Chargers are LITERALLY 2 plays away from being 3-2.

Tonight the Titans played surprisingly well for a team that hasn't been able to practice and improved to 4-0 with a 42-16 win over the Bills.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 14, 2020, 10:12:45 AM
The Bills performance against the Titans is exactly why I won't ever put them ahead of New England until they actually pass them.  They're much improved, and I don't think it's a brief run like New York had around a decade ago or the one lucky and wasted year for Miami in 2008.  They should be a very good team for a long time, but I expected better from Buffalo.  I was not surprised that Tennessee won the game, but 42-16 was a surprise.  Everyone's saying Pittsburgh & Buffalo are upset; I guess I might want to add Tennessee to that group
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 14, 2020, 05:00:22 PM
The 2021 Pro Bowl has been cancelled,  but they will still name players for the teams.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on October 14, 2020, 05:12:43 PM
The Pro Bowl was never a great or relevant game anyway . I'm glad that they're still naming the teams though. The best players at each position in any given NFL season deserve to be acknowledged as such so I'm glad they still will be.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 14, 2020, 06:26:21 PM
I'm okay with the lack of the Pro Bowl as well.  It really was only a big deal for the league as it produced ratings & generated revenue.  For what it's worth, it would've been a mistake to have injected meaning into the Pro Bowl a la MLB All-Star game not too long ago.  The stupid rule for the summer classic actually led to a painful World Series loss within the past decade.

I didn't mind the recently added stuff the NFL did the Thursday before the game (skills competition).  I actually enjoyed it, more than the game itself (which I didn't enjoy).  It'll be back, but I agree moneygamelover: it was never great.  At least recently.  It was on a weekend where I was burned out from football & ready for college hoops.  More often than not it would be on a Sunday/weekend opposite WWE PPV, the Grammys, and Duke/UNC (which is Saturday but too much TV that weekend that the Pro Bowl was not needed).


Glad their naming the players.  They do that for the all-decade team (which, obviously excludes a game featuring them).  You won't get some down the line player that's new or old news on a 5-11 team "making the pro bowl thanks to the dozen of people that skipped the game
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 14, 2020, 06:40:26 PM
On a related note, Las Vegas gets the next game (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/las-vegas-to-host-the-2021-pro-bowl-after-missing-out-on-the-2020-nfl-draft/).  Just like the draft, the pandemic let to the postponement of two NFL events that were scheduled to occur in Vegas
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 16, 2020, 07:37:58 AM
Atlanta and Indianapolis have closed their facilities after positive COVID tests turned up.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 16, 2020, 02:27:58 PM
It's a false positive for the Colts.  Therefore the facility has re-opened, and Indianapolis is still scheduled to play on Sunday
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 16, 2020, 06:58:26 PM
Falcons have reopened theirs as well. Their loss--...er, game against Minnesota goes on as scheduled.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 18, 2020, 04:13:06 PM
Baked crow. Yum. Atlanta prevails, 40-23. (Then again, I did say watch Atlanta win after firing Dan Quinn.) After going eleven quarters without a TD pass, Matt Ryan gets four. Meanwhile, Kirk Cousins's INT rate spiked higher than COVID with three today.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on October 18, 2020, 04:22:51 PM
Never been a Kirk Cousins fan. Never believed he was an elite quarterback. On the other hand, I bet Julio Jones wishes he could play the Vikings every week.

An amazing comeback win by the now 5-0 Titans. A.J.Brown caught a miracle game tying touchdown,  Tanehill's 4th of the day, with 4 seconds left and the best running back in the NFL today scored the game winning touchdown in overtime out of the wildcat.

The Bears remain the biggest surprise in the NFL now being 5-1.

The Steelers flat out dominated the Browns in the head to head to remain unbeaten. The Browns are better this year, but not ready for primetime yet. The AFC North is still a Ravens-Steeers battle.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: PatrickRox80 on October 18, 2020, 04:57:57 PM
The Giants get their first win after the Washington No-Names botch a two-point conversion one point behind.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: Ccook on October 18, 2020, 06:50:53 PM
Brady and Tampa Bay are outclassing Rodgers and the Pack. Rodgers has been sacked three times; Brady zero times.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on October 18, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
The Buccaneers are 4-2 having won 4 of their last 5. Brady's Buccaneers are having a better time of it than his old team, as the Patriots lost to the Broncos and are 2-3.

One note of interest: After catching his 1st Buccaneers touchdown, the Gronk has 80 career touchdown becoming only the 3rd tight end to achieve this mark. Antonio Gates retired with 116 and Tony Gonzalez retired with 111. Time will tell if any other tight ends join the 3 Gs in the 80 touchdown club.

Edit: They just showed a fact at the end of the game that the Buccaneers had NO penalties today for the 2nd time in franchise history with the 1st being 12/18/1983.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 18, 2020, 07:59:47 PM
Tampa and New England were actually closer than that before today.  Several thought Green Bay would win, and I didn't think New England would lose at home to Denver.  The Bucs did have an extended break, but that would be an excuse for the Packers, since they were on a bye a week ago
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: moneygamelover on October 19, 2020, 11:30:53 PM
My Cardinals are now 4-2 after Kyler Murray threw 2 touchdowns and ran for another in a 38-10 win over a Cowboys team, to be blunt about it, played like kindergarteners tonight.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs ran 46 times for 245 yards in a 26-17 win over the Bills in rainy Buffalo to get to 5-1. The 46 rushing attempts are a single game record for an Andy Reid coached team.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: PatrickRox80 on October 19, 2020, 11:56:38 PM
My Cardinals are now 4-2 after Kyler Murray threw 2 touchdowns and ran for another in a 38-10 win over a Cowboys team, to be blunt about it, played like kindergarteners tonight.

Everyone in the NFC East plays that way now. The Cowboys are the division leaders despite being two games under .500.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: DRPrice on October 20, 2020, 08:59:56 PM
     Someone on the radio this morning said the Cowboys might win the division at 5-11.  In this year of bizarreness, would not surprise at all.
Title: Re: 2020 NFL Season
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on October 21, 2020, 09:42:41 PM
Las Vegas Is The Latest To Deal With COVID (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30163319/las-vegas-raiders-trent-brown-covid-list-o-line-sent-home)

     Someone on the radio this morning said the Cowboys might win the division at 5-11.  In this year of bizarreness, would not surprise at all.

The scariest thing is that with the new playoff format, Dallas (or whomever win the NFC East) could possibly host all three weeks of their postseason preceding the Super Bowl