Disappointing that nothing prior to ‘82 will be seen. If I had to guess, based on how Buzzr TV works, this probably won’t be an endless loop of every episode from ‘82 on, because of the time it takes to digitize episodes, clean them up, edit out music cues or anything else that can’t air, it’s likely that they’ll be dumped in monthly or periodic batches, like 30 or 60 at a time that will just rotate in a cycle for a month until they have the next batch ready, etc.
Hopefully Freemantle doesn’t decide to crack down on Youtube uploads because of this, because obviously there’s going to be a lot of noteworthy episodes or moments we’re all going to want to see, but none of use are going to be able to keep this running 24/7.
Can I make a request-
Can we not complain about the years they're not airing and be happy for at least a little while? Reruns of Barker era episodes haven't been on in 20+ years.
Good grief. We finally get classic episodes airing again, something we've been wanting ever since GSN axed them, and y'all are still not happy. Be grateful we are getting them at all.
Can I make a request-
Can we not complain about the years they're not airing and be happy for at least a little while? Reruns of Barker era episodes haven't been on in 20+ years.
No harm in letting your feelings be known. Heck, maybe if enough people say something they might break out dome of the older episodes. I would personally love to see more episodes from around the late 70s that have never been rerun.
Does anyone know exactly what time the channel will be debuting? According to the YouTube video linked below, it will be on Channel 163.
I mean, it's great they are getting reshown in some capacity, no question about that, just a little disappointing they seemingly aren't running a pretty significant part of the show's history in any capacity. Even GSN ran non fur shows from the first decade when they had it, so I don't see why they couldn't do the same here. But I suppose time will tell just what they decide to do. Will be interesting to see.While the first decade is a significant part of the show's history full of them finding their footing, converting to an hour, and creating a base foundation for games, many of which still exist to this day, I'd argue that this next decade of the show is just as significant a part of the show's history. While they were gaining their footing, this stretch is when they rose to the top of the crop in daytime. They rose to #1 in game shows (and eventually #1 in daytime) and they had fun doing it. The chemistry between Bob, Johnny, Janice, Dian, Holly, and eventually Rod and Kathleen, made the show during this period more of a party than it had ever been. If the show doesn't reach this apex in the 80s, while it might still exist in the 90s, it doesn't become cemented as an American institution.
The official YouTube channel replied to a comment asking what time. They said 12AM on December 1st. They did not specify if that's eastern time though.
While the first decade is a significant part of the show's history full of them finding their footing, converting to an hour, and creating a base foundation for games, many of which still exist to this day, I'd argue that this next decade of the show is just as significant a part of the show's history. While they were gaining their footing, this stretch is when they rose to the top of the crop in daytime. They rose to #1 in game shows (and eventually #1 in daytime) and they had fun doing it. The chemistry between Bob, Johnny, Janice, Dian, Holly, and eventually Rod and Kathleen, made the show during this period more of a party than it had ever been. If the show doesn't reach this apex in the 80s, while it might still exist in the 90s, it doesn't become cemented as an American institution.
There are still plenty of unconfirmed and unrecapped shows from this particular era even though a good chunk did air on GSN at one point, so it'll will be nice to fill in blanks. Also, just like when Sale of the Century started being rerun on GSN, it'll be nice to see the shows in broadcast, non-VHS, and non-WinTV quality.
To quote the current Five Below campaign: Yes! .... Yes! .... YES!
Regarding potential takedowns, I'd only be concerned about uploading what they've posted at this point, given that BUZZR isn't going after any shows that aired on older platforms (GSN, USA, original broadcasts). In fact, Sony seems to have gotten a bit lax with Wheel as of late, unlike Jeopardy! which is known even to be removed on platforms like Dailymotion. At least its not ABC soaps since recently, I had two accounts taken down from Disney about two soaps that haven't been seen perhaps since their original broadcasts in the 1980s/90s: All My Children and One Life To Live.
I'm especially looking forward towards episodes from the 1984-1990 period since with the exception of the 1986 portion of Season 15, few episodes from the period were rerun by GSN. There were a lot more playings of games like Golden Road and 3 Strikes (both for four and five digit cars) in those days in addition to rather obscure retired ones like Walk of Fame, On The Nose and Add Em Up. We'd also look forward to things like Johnny's last episode, interim period between his passing and Rod Roddy's, the short-lived musical cues from the 1983 package before being phased out, and even many of the set changes that took place among certain games like Lucky Seven, Golden Road, and Danger Price. I'm certainly going to check these out!
I'm not surprised that they're skipping the pre-1982 episodes, as they would have to painstakingly cherry-pick out any episodes that don't have furs, a process that took GSN a long time to do (which is why they didn't air TPiR until late 1996).You'd think that documentation from that cherry-picking would still exist somewhere, thus making the job easier to do now than it was then (like, a "master list" of fur/non-fur shows).
So it's 12am eastern......December 1st and I don't see a channel launched yet? Did I miss something?
It's up!
https://pluto.tv/live-tv/tpir-the-barker-era
EDIT: There's a transparent "Plinko chip" as the lower-right corner bug. Cute! Also, playing right now appears to be #4583D.
EDIT: There's a transparent "Plinko chip" as the lower-right corner bug. Cute!
It'll be cool when they get to the latter half of Season 12, since that's where GSN stopped when they lost the rights in April 2000.
I remember when GSN was airing TPIR from 1996 to April 1998 they would air 1976-1977 episodes on Mondays, 1979-1980 episodes on Tuesdays, 1982-1983 episodes on Wednesdays, 1986-1987 episodes on Thursdays, 1991-1992 episodes on Fridays, and 1991-1992 episodes on Saturdays (which was different from the Friday episodes). That was a *Wonderful* schedule. From April 1998 to 2000, GSN only aired episodes of TPIR from 1981-1983, except for Win TV which had more variety, but I found that practice to be ruined because the episode image was reduced to make room for the Win TV graphic.
Consolation plugs! Yes! :)
Full screen credits! Looks like it's going to be the fabulous 65 minute Price is Right; they've run over their hour timeslot by about 5 minutes. If it means (mostly) unedited Price, I'll take it!
I made a discord for us to discuss the episodes in real time if anyone wants to joinGolden-Road has a Discord, I've made a retro channel in there. Just click "Chat" in the menu bar above.
https://discord.gg/rAbQgRHF
It's interesting how the 91-92 shows, the most recent at the time, got more play than the others, airing twice. And if I recall viewing the Win TV shows often in those latter days after school, didn't they take on the pattern that was the case in the pre Win TV era?
Yes, I think Win TV used the 76-77 Monday, 79-80 Tuesday, 82-83 Wednesday, 86-87 Thursday, 91-92 Friday, 91-92 Saturday scheduling pattern, but it was wasted because of the Win TV thing. Also, anyone old enough who was watching GSN 20+ years ago will remember that the six months between October 1997 and April 1998 was known as "The Dark Period" because that's when GSN lost the rights to most of the Mark Goodson library. The only exceptions were TPIR (which still used the variety schedule) and the 1994-1995 syndicated, one hour episodes of Family Feud with Richard Dawson. When GSN got the rights to the other Goodson shows back in April 1998, I was very disappointed because (along with Feud 94-95 disappearing and TPIR being restricted to 1981-1983 episodes - with the exception of Win TV) they only aired certain editions of shows. They aired Family Feud with Richard Dawson (1976-1985), but not Ray Combs (1988-1994). They aired Card Sharks with Jim Perry (1978-1981), but not Bob Eubanks (1986-1989) or Bill Rafferty (1986-1987). The 1990-1991 ABC episodes of Match Game with Ross Shafer were also MIA. If memory serves me correctly, Combs Feud and Eubanks Card Sharks didn't return to GSN until 2001, with Rafferty Card Sharks and Shafer Match Game returning even later.The CBS Daytime Feud bowed on October 2, 1999 with that counterpart's premiere episode but only reran on Saturday nights. The original Blockbusters with the Solo Player vs. Family Pair format returned to the schedule when the Goodson game shows returned in April 1998 but Rafferty Blockbusters never saw the light of day again until April 2005(don't think it was ever featured as GOTW). The WinTV era also began a new chapter for GSN by becoming a new expansion basic cable channel for basic cable providers such as then-called MediaOne, the 2 things MediaOne basic cable viewers never got to see are the Color IGAS and Password Plus until the latter moved to weekdays following ABC Daytime Feud in the mornings and Inquizition in the afternoons.
Also, in regards to GSN's TPIR variety schedule, I remember the reason they didn't show episodes on Sundays is because on Sunday afternoons they had a two or two and a half hour block of black and white shows they called "Sentimental Sunday". One of those shows was Bill Cullen's TPIR (1956-1965). They aired half hour CBS episodes (1972-1975) with Bob Barker on Monday-Friday during the early mornings.
You'd think that documentation from that cherry-picking would still exist somewhere, thus making the job easier to do now than it was then (like, a "master list" of fur/non-fur shows).GSN has not given Buzzr anything from their library. All these transfers are recent. If something like this was made it would probably still be in the hands of GSN.
Hey, if anyone at any time wants to fill in some game lineups while they're watching this thing, be my guest. Write up any notes you think should go in the FAQ, too -- set changes, non-car games for cars, pretty much anything. God knows I love the show, but I obviously can't be watching this stream 24/7, and I'd still love to collect as much data as possible.
It was also shocking that in 1 Right Price, each of the prizes they offered in this playing were worth less than $1,000 in 1982, which was quite low by this time. You'd think they'd reserve that for Clock Game.
I’m never going to sleep again
Personal theory: They only have seven episodes ready at the moment and are looping through the first few.
I also want to sleep so I want this to be right so badly.
I'd say 8 if they were......since they could do a loop of em 3 times to fill the 24 hour day.
Do we know for sure how they’re going to organize the airing? Is it one and done (see it or miss it), is it a block of so many repeated so many times a day? I’m sorry if ya’ll discussed this above, but I’m still crying that I called Poker Game 3rd before anything was revealed, and lost my poo after the first cue of Temptation.
We have absolutely no clue.
(but we had a theory floating in the Discord that games with copyrighted sound cues might not be aired, and 4582D would have one of those cues, so it's possible this is the "start" of a loop of seven episodes, and 4583D would be airing next, but this theory's out the window when they just played the Pink Panther theme in the second showcase of this episode.)
I’m never going to sleep againI think you are right!
GSN has not given Buzzr anything from their library. All these transfers are recent. If something like this was made it would probably still be in the hands of GSN.
We need to keep this thread pinned
How many games besides Safe Crackers have/had copyrighted cues? I can't think of any others off top.
Kudos to Pluto and Fremantle for hammering out a deal, this is great! Watching 4584D now, love the crisp quality!
They're repeating the first episode they aired now, so it looks like we're getting 8 episodes a day.
Surprised to see that licensed music apparently isn't an issue, as a lot of folks speculated. They're currently airing a "Time Capsule" showcase that used music from both Star Trek and Close Encounters Of The Third Kind.
I'm in complete heaven...
How many repeats have they had since the first one at 8? Just getting back to it now.
There was a ninth new show at 10am, then they continued looping the first 8, and now as of 2pm Eastern this is the third time this same episode has run today.
I too cannot believe how HD this last episode appears to me too. I’m glad I’m not the only one.
This was always Bob's show.I think Dennis might have argued that point, but meh.
Any new information uncovered from the episodes that have aired so far that affects the Pricing Game calendar and/or TPiR timeline?
I'm glad they are airing these. I can't stand watching Drew Carey and the mess the show is now.
This was always Bob's show.
For being circa-1982 video, done with Norelco PC60 cameras and (I assume) 2" quad tape, these digitizations *do* look amazing. I won't deduct points for the streaming medium affecting the frame rate, though.......
I realized why the first rerun incarnation didn’t take off: Bob was still on hosting new shows and the feel was still there.Someone can correct me, but I think the entire reason why GSN lost the rights was because someone didnt sign to extend the rights...
What’s really making me cry is to see all the “old schoolers” who are posting here in this thread. For how long we have this gift I do not know, but I’m gonna cherish every moment.
I realized why the first rerun incarnation didn’t take off: Bob was still on hosting new shows and the feel was still there. I knew I was a junkie, but with this “smack high” I’m not sure what will happen if it’s taken away again.
❤️ to Fremantle, Viacom, CBS, Bob.
Someone can correct me, but I think the entire reason why GSN lost the rights was because someone didnt sign to extend the rights...And I'd bet dollars to donuts that someone's name was Les Moonves.
If they would bring back it's optional, how many chances would they give the contestant?
And I'd bet dollars to donuts that someone's name was Les Moonves.
What’s really making me cry is to see all the “old schoolers” who are posting here in this thread. For how long we have this gift I do not know, but I’m gonna cherish every moment.
iIf they would bring back it's optional, how many chances would they give the contestant?
When in the world did we get a new moderator named "Mr. Weatherman"??Presumably when he changed his handle from "PayingTheRent".
They’re all packaged nowadays, for the most part. So sadly, we’re stuck with Triple Play.
Presumably when he changed his handle from "PayingTheRent".And on an unrelated note: I've been around here for more than a few years, and feel that I know pretty much all the regulars here, even though I don't talk much. When in the world did we get a new moderator named "Mr. Weatherman"??
Or called "Convenience Package 2A" which means about as much as "a 13-inch laptop computer".
You wanted old-timers, here you go.
:garf:
I forgot...the post-Showcase celebration...back then, it was the contestant, Bob, and the Beauties, along with one or two that came with. Now, it's a mob coming out. :D
I'm going to echo FPGWillyT: the video quality is absolutely incredible, considering it's not HD. I've become so accustomed to the lousy low-res YouTube videos, I never appreciated how good the show could look in regular old "normal" quality.
Well.......was.:oldlol: Got me...back to no one coming out for now. That's how distanced I am with the show at the present time.
I have been watching on my 2000 Sony Trinitron. It looks quite good on the CRT. I might end up burning the dollar sign bug into my screen, because this channel is now a permanent fixture on my TV.
Just realizing the September 16th show in the calendar has Danger Price slotted 2nd in the episode now reairing, but it should be the 1st one. Clock Game was 2nd on this episode.
Several of those early 80s episodes featured lineups with "unknown slotting" so while the pricing games for one of those tapings were correct, the order in which they were played may not have been as mentioned.
Count me in as one of those that remembered when nobody celebrating with the winning contestant was the norm. Which is funny; every-so-often people used to celebrate with the contestants after a pricing game win. There was a 1982 episode that I can recall where a contestant's spouse ran onto the stage following a $10,000 win in Punch A Bunch. Then he got twice as much airtime since his wife won the showcase. We might not see that on this channel (unless it aired today). I believe it was from Season 10
I think they may refresh come 6 am EST in the morning but we'll see.
^We have a spreadsheet going in the Discord. I'll edit in a photo in a minute, but the answer is no; they did actually air that a little later... and have done so twice more already.
(https://i.imgur.com/2ySc2Jc.png)
People involved with the current iteration of the show ought to watch these early 1980s episodes. They serve as a reminder of the program’s high production values and excellent direction and camerawork.
Do you think it's possible they may have scrapped the show and replaced it with another? I don't know that they'd want to air something, in which the big winner of the day ended up not being an eligible contestant after the fact. It wouldn't have been the greatest look. What's your guys' take?
It's great to see so much of the "old guard" around here trotting out in excitement, and now that we will be inundated with steady access to crisp quality copies of episodes from the show's glory years, it really makes no sense to me how anybody can look at the show now compared to then and still say it's good.
Well, I guess I'll just have to sit outside on the sidelines up here in Canada (Seriously, why is geofencing still a thing, especially when they're making their YouTube clips available outside the U.S.? No, I'm not going to backdoor it. That would be illegal.). Perhaps they'll reconsider at some point, but regardless, but the fact is it is extremely impressive to see these reruns happening in Barker's lifetime. Sure, let's hope someday even more common sense prevails that we'll get to see shows from the first ten seasons, nighttime shows and episodes on demand (not sure what the sense is in a 24-hour channel with the same episodes cycling over and over, which will probably still be the case even when they have more episodes digitized). For now, this move is long overdue and much appreciated.
Because tastes evolve over the years. These shows from the 80s are Price in their prime, yes... but that was the 1980s. This is 2020. Times change. Technology changes. The host has changed, and has made the show his own.
the set actually looks so much darker with all that black space around the doors and turntable
the relatively bland color scheme of everything else makes the whole thing look dull.
This was a good thing. Your attention should be drawn to the set pieces and the "areas of action", if you will. Why they started re-purposing so much of the set to draw attention to "dead zones" never made sense to me. There's a central point to the action, and drawing in parts that don't pertain just make things look busy.
Because said "dead zones" stick out far more like a sore thumb in 16:9 HD with its larger frame (and the fact that screens in general are considerably larger than they used to be) than 4:3 SD. It looks like crap.
I generally agree with you that the Barker era was far superior to the show that's on now, and I much prefer these episodes to the ones now with Drew Carey. I flipped it on earlier and saw a classic Nothing But Furniture showcase and legitimately teared up. I'm just saying that what worked back then doesn't work anymore
when it comes to art (which television, being a form of visual media, certainly is), there is no "one best way"... it's all subjective, and it evolves with time.
Those people outside the US who aren't able to access the channel, all hope is not lost. You can use any type of VPN as long it is connected to the US like I do and then you should have access to it in no problem.
That's illegal, immoral and probably contrary to the terms of your ISP and PlutoTV's terms of service at the same time. I would not encourage this kind of behaviour.
Just thought I´d add in which cars were frequently seen on the show in what price range at that time:
In the $6,000 range: Ford Escort, Mercury Lynx, Chevrolet Chevette, Pontiac T1000, Mazda GLC (Great Little Car) hatchback coupe , Isuzu Pickup, Fiat Strada
In the $7,000 range: Pontiac J2000, Isuzu Sedan, Ford Mustang (it wasn't really what it is today), Mazda GLC Sedan
In the $8,000s-$9,000s: Pontiac Phoenix, Chrysler LeBaron, Dodge 400, Jeep Renegade, Chevy Impala
$10,000+: Chevy Monte Carlo, Pontiac Trans Am, Chevrolet Camaro
"Imad Khuri uploads a metric ton of TPIR to YouTube. Back in early November, he noted that Fremantle took down a slew of of his episodes...all of them from season 11. Along comes the Pluto channel, and whaddya know, they exclusively have season 11.
It seems that they'll leave episodes alone if Pluto's not going to air them in the forseeable future, but if they are, off they go."
This is interesting, re: YouTube uploads, they may not be safe entirely it seems now. Per a post over at the Game Show Forum....
"Imad Khuri uploads a metric ton of TPIR to YouTube. Back in early November, he noted that Fremantle took down a slew of of his episodes...all of them from season 11. Along comes the Pluto channel, and whaddya know, they exclusively have season 11.
It seems that they'll leave episodes alone if Pluto's not going to air them in the forseeable future, but if they are, off they go."
What about the episodes that have been on YouTube for years, including years like 2012 before Pluto was even founded?
I think it's smart to do that. Otherwise, what would be the point of watching. Several might not like it, but if it'll air in the foreseeable future, for the most part it's not a big deal
I can’t remember a specific instance of an Impala being offered, but I’m fairly sure it happened.
Although Golden Road cars were much nicer than cars usually offered on the show, I don’t think they started offering the dream cars we’re more used to until 5-digit cars starting appearing in other games. I guess once GR lost the distinction of being the only game with 5-digit cars, they upgraded the prizes to keep the game special.
Of Season 11? Good question, might be just episodes they are to air, and more because of specific segments they've singled out for use on their social media. That'd make sense. I do hope they create an on demand channel for the shows at some point as they get further into the run. I'd wonder if they would plan that at some point, I know some have wanted something like that for years and years since they began streaming/archiving the regular show online.
Not just, Season 11 but every season in the Barker era, especially if the plan is to air those over time. Based on the current pattern, that might take a while. Not too bitter about Season 11-12. GSN was "kind enough to air them weekday morning, but that was over 21 years ago. Those were some great days!
I hope it's not for a long time as well, urbanpreppie. It is possible, but I think unlikely. Family Feud still has full episodes so that may be a sign
What does Feud have to do with this topic? Curious.
For me, especially starting with S37, they mad a conscious choice to delve into tge “Fernando” mode of TPiR production making looking good more important than feeling good.
And I haven’t felt this good in years. Even though these episodes are 38 years old, even though the audience seems comatose at times, even though you notice Bob “rushing” (wait to time the “skit showcase” coming), even though you see the chips/smudges, this is not as important as hearing JO shout “a new car”. It’s not as important as being able to say “Hi” to the beauties (I guarantee I ain’t the only one).
We're up to 4602D now, also new to Pluto. For those who don't know, an episode highlighted in gray on the tpirstats.com calendars like this one indicates that the games listed are not confirmed to be in order as shown. In fact, every game listed as of this post is out of order from what was actually played.
Another interesting thing when they come up (which wouldn't be till Season 12 now unless I forgot something), would be the handling of the lone half hour episodes in years CBS aired the Bake-Off (or if they get to the first 10 years, the Magazine prompted shows). Assuming they kept this 6 hour/6 show block running consistently, how would they handle that?
My guess is they are saving the season 11 premiere week for around New Years Day.
Apologies if this was already mentioned, but (assuming it happens) I’m most excited to eventually see the Season 22 premiere, which as many of us know was not shown in 99% of the country and never re-aired.
Anyone have any idea why the plugs before SCSD #1 sometimes air, and sometimes don't? I assume there has to be some reason vs. Pluto cutting it off by accident occasionally.
It alternates between the "some members of our studio audience will receive" plug (which is left in), and the ticket plug (which is edited out).
I am kinda curious what they'll do when they get to the era where the ticket plug began to run daily after SCSD #1
Interesting that on 4604D, Bob did not reset the big wheel back to 5 cents in the bonus spin/spinoff for the spinner trying to tie $1.00 (and win $11,000) to have another spinoff. However it did not affect the outcome (given where it landed on at the end).
If you hadn't known, it did pop up on YouTube a few years ago by David Downs (RIP) when he had the Fun & Games Channel running. So if you've not seen it before, you can now. It's the studio master too.
Wow. I never realized how much they played Poker Game back in the day. I haven't been able to watch every episode (work wouldn't understand...) so far aired on Pluto but every episode I have watched has had Poker Game. I love it!!!
Willy, every time you post in this thread...perfection! You speak every sentiment I'm thinking!!
"Also I loved hearing the "whoop whoop whoop" sound effect used for a Bonus Spin landing on one of the green sections! I had never seen that prior to just a few minutes
And it just kept right on going! I thought for sure a wrong key was hit and the WHOOP WHOOP would stop.
...the credit roll...
Keep in mind that $5,000 was a lot to win back in 1982 and that necessitated the whoop sound for a green section. This was also the day where Holly had appliance battle issues (and it happened again on 4744D).
I felt so bad for the Card Game player from 4604D to lose by so little ($4) and up until now I thought $5 was the closest loss I have seen in this game. This will go down in history as being one of the most painful losses in the game's history.
During the episode that aired between 1-2pm eastern, during the 2nd SCSD 2 contestants tied with $1.00. During the bonus spin/spin off the wheel was not reset to the 5 for the second contestant's spin after the first contestant spun $1.00 again.
That's illegal, immoral and probably contrary to the terms of your ISP and PlutoTV's terms of service at the same time. I would not encourage this kind of behaviour.
Keep in mind that $5,000 was a lot to win back in 1982 and that necessitated the whoop sound for a green section. This was also the day where Holly had appliance battle issues (and it happened again on 4744D).
I felt so bad for the Card Game player from 4604D to lose by so little ($4) and up until now I thought $5 was the closest loss I have seen in this game. This will go down in history as being one of the most painful losses in the game's history.
I've watched about a dozen or so episodes so far, it appears that the house minimums around this time were $300 for an IUFB, $1000 for the total ARP for a pricing game, and $5000 for the Showcase. Just like on many home games and in other eras, if you keep watching/playing, you'll come up with the same products/prizes again, helping you to hone in better on your pricing skills like a good ol' LFaT. Just don't bring in a newspaper like an audience member near where Frances was called on down from 4611D was holding. It certainly didn't look like a staffer who may have used a newspaper for the GPs in Now... and Then.
PS My earliest personal memories were around Season 16 summer reruns where I could faintly recall some episodes with dark hair Bob, some with gray hair Bob with the pink Pricedown Big Wheel walls, and some with the then-new Super Ball-style Big Wheel walls. missing.
You know what's funny with this....hearing Bob comment on a guy's gray hair and liking it some 5 years before he went gray himself lol. That amused me. Also interesting/amusing too, is the number of aquarium appearances so far, particularly given furs were gone. I've counted at least 3 times one has shown up. When did those get phased out?
According to the official channel: 6 new shows each weekday, reruns over the weekend. (in the comments)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-IhC90c8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-IhC90c8E)
Also..how many games were in rotation by Season 11, anyone know for certain? I'd assume someone would. It's sorta wild seeing how quick they seemed to recycle for this period. I didn't think they would quite so much, but seems to amount to roughly 2 times a week a game is being played, for some at least.
I'll name the games that were in the lineup for the beginning of Season 11:
Any Number, Barker's Bargain Bar, Blank Check, Bonus Game, Bullseye '76, Card Game, Check-Out, Cliff Hangers, Clock Game, Danger Price, Dice Game, Double Prices, Five Price Tags, Give or Keep, Golden Road, Grand Game, Grocery Game, Hi Lo, Hit Me, Hole in One, It's Optional, Lucky $even, Money Game, Most Expensive, Now...and Then, 1 Right Price, Penny Ante, Pick-a-Pair, Poker Game, Punch-a-Bunch, Race Game, Range Game, Safe Crackers, Secret "X", Shell Game, Squeeze Play, SuperBall!!, Switcheroo, Take Two, Temptation, Ten Chances, 3 Strikes, Trader Bob
If we were to include the games that were added during the course of said season (Master Key, Plinko), the total would be 45 active games.
I'll name the games that were in the lineup for the beginning of Season 11:You forgot Hurdles, even though its playing were greatly reduced by this time.
Any Number, Barker's Bargain Bar, Blank Check, Bonus Game, Bullseye '76, Card Game, Check-Out, Cliff Hangers, Clock Game, Danger Price, Dice Game, Double Prices, Five Price Tags, Give or Keep, Golden Road, Grand Game, Grocery Game, Hi Lo, Hit Me, Hole in One, It's Optional, Lucky $even, Money Game, Most Expensive, Now...and Then, 1 Right Price, Penny Ante, Pick-a-Pair, Poker Game, Punch-a-Bunch, Race Game, Range Game, Safe Crackers, Secret "X", Shell Game, Squeeze Play, SuperBall!!, Switcheroo, Take Two, Temptation, Ten Chances, 3 Strikes, Trader Bob
If we were to include the games that were added during the course of said season (Master Key, Plinko), the total would be 45 active games.
You forgot Hurdles, even though its playing were greatly reduced by this time.
And without letting this become an "old vs new", "Bob vs Drew" discussion, I'm truly amazed at how the show has managed to remain relatively unchanged after so many years. Yes, the sets are newer, the show is more "modern", there's a new host, and so on, but the bones are still very much the same. The fact that, after close to 50 years, the basic structure of the show has remained unchanged is quite impressive.
Someone commented about how much more they used to use the turntable in the showcase, and I wanted to add how weird it looks to me how they often left the prize displayed on the turntable even after the showcase was over, even as they went to commercial.
Someone commented about how much more they used to use the turntable in the showcase, and I wanted to add how weird it looks to me how they often left the prize displayed on the turntable even after the showcase was over, even as they went to commercial.On the 8 PM ET/7 PM CT (which I watched), luggage was on the turntable in the first showcase. It was still showing when they went to commercial.
So...observations from a few shows in.
- Bob would get #MeToo'd today.
- They are straight up abusing the Train...I think it's been in virtually every-other episode so far.
- Penny Ante needed to come back about 15 years ago.
- Never liked the TT colors of this set, hasn't changed. The stucco is super obvious...the set change will be soon, I think.
- Trader Bob is.....interesting.
- Marc Breslow's style is great.
According to the official channel: 6 new shows each weekday, reruns over the weekend. (in the comments)
I remember the train being used a lot during the original run, but I have to agree about the overuse of it. I remember 1999 quite well since I had time to catch the morning, non WinTV version of Season's 11 & 12. It seemed as if it wasn't an episode of TPIR unless it made an appearance in every episode, maybe even twice! Not that I had a problem with it, but when I rewatched it I don't recall seeing the use of it (for the IUFB) that many times!
I miss Breslow, but like a lot of things, there was good to come from his departure. Trader Bob was a blast. I didn't miss it too much when it was gone, but I also didn't miss when the game looked like it was about to be won but turned out not to be the case. Penny Ante I'm neutral with; a return would result in a digital version and not a real set that could break down again. Not only do I miss the game; I miss the camera shot of the game that was used throughout the 80s; I think that was done away with in Season 21.
I'm in the minority, or it might just be me that loves the TT colors. The Green with Orange & Purple stand out for me. I don't know; I guess I respect those secondary colors. The design that'll be coming up soon (used from 1982-1992) is much better, but I think it's best combination the show has had overall.
Good to know; thanks, urbanpreppie. Tuning into the show to catch everything isn't a reality going forward, so it helps that they're rerunning what aired each week. As far as pre-Season 11, I don't see Pluto airing anything from the show's first ten years even after Bob's gone, at least not right away. I don't think there's any connection with an OK given to run the last 25 years of the Barker era and skip over the first ten seasons over a fur ban or any other reason
...Also interesting/amusing too, is the number of aquarium appearances so far, particularly given furs were gone. I've counted at least 3 times one has shown up. When did those get phased out?
Actually less than I thought, so 2 times a week or so makes sense then, at 30 games total each week. Thanks!
Of course, the combination of sponsorship obligations, pricing game running times, show’s budget, and type of prize being offered means that same games come up more often than others, and I think that has a lot to do with it in the episodes we’ve seen so far. Three Strikes and Take Two sure have shown up a lot more then than they do now.
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Owning an aquarium doesn't require needlessly killing animals, as is the case with fur coats, so I can see why Bob wouldn't have cared about those as much at first...
Also, is it me, or did they not turn it all the way around for games often back then? Maybe it's the angle of the camera shot (creativity that again stands out a lot here relative to later years), but the games seemed to be set-up a little crooked many times when they stopped turning it, that'd be the best word I could use.
I don't remember where I heard this, so don't take my word as gospel, but the story I recall hearing was that when it was time for an aquarium to go back to storage in the prize warehouse, the crew would empty it by dumping it into the drain, fish and all. When Bob found out about that, he said no more aquariums as prizes.
Back in the day, there was a switch on the turntable controls that allowed it to stop in one of two places: perfectly "flat" for pricing games and slightly "off-center" for One Bids (so the prize wasn't at such a steep angle compared to the camera shooting it). I haven't had time to watch much of the Pluto channel yet (much to my frustration), so I don't know if the angles match, but perhaps they were using the One Bid setting for pricing games for some reason?
The episode circulating today with Golden Road has a notable paying of 3 Strikes...it will be on again at 1pm, I think.
Is there a set rotation the channel has settled on? The first day's schedule was posted in this thread and it was not exactly straightforward. Is the channel going in order of production number? Have any episodes been skipped thus far?
I really suspect that there was some kind of breakdown in Range Game that necessitated some prizes being switched around in #4623. Why?:
1) Grocery Game is played for a backgammon table. Bob says "We had one of those on the show just the other day", or words to that effect, which gets laughs from the audience.
2) In previous episodes, Range Game had been having problems, including "getting jammed" mid-game.
3) Earlier in the show, a living room is presented for Range Game, to which Bob cryptically comments "That has everything in it but a pinochle table.", which gets inexplicable laughter from the audience. (Yes, he gets the game wrong.)
4) Bob makes some comments during his explanation of the game that also bring laughs from the audience "That rangefinder will start moving slowly up the scale...we hope..." and later "Well, you already know all this." (to the contestant) All the laughter makes me think the rangefinder didn't work the first time through and they had to replay it.
5) If you think about it, a living room is kind of an odd prize for Range Game because it's typically played in the fee games (like Grocery), and likewise, a backgammon table is not typical for Grocery.
6) The show ends with an "edited for broadcast" disclaimer.
So, my ears perked up back when Bob made the pinochle table remark just because it was a very odd thing to say. His comments for the rest of the game and Grocery got me wondering more. Does anyone else think they swapped those games' prizes?
The only hole in my conspiracy theory here is...why would the rangefinder not moving necessitate a prize change? Unless the price got revealed for some reason, they could just replay for the original prize once they got the rangefinder moving again.
THe episode airs again at 4pm EST, I believe, if you want to check it out and comment.
I had forgotten just how bad the original ferris wheel version of Pick-a-Pair was. Wow it's tough to watch today!!
Sorta amazing it lasted as long as it did under this format. It is way too complicated and time-consuming.
I really suspect that there was some kind of breakdown in Range Game that necessitated some prizes being switched around in #4623. Why?:
1) Grocery Game is played for a backgammon table. Bob says "We had one of those on the show just the other day", or words to that effect, which gets laughs from the audience.
2) In previous episodes, Range Game had been having problems, including "getting jammed" mid-game.
3) Earlier in the show, a living room is presented for Range Game, to which Bob cryptically comments "That has everything in it but a pinochle table.", which gets inexplicable laughter from the audience. (Yes, he gets the game wrong.)
4) Bob makes some comments during his explanation of the game that also bring laughs from the audience "That rangefinder will start moving slowly up the scale...we hope..." and later "Well, you already know all this." (to the contestant) All the laughter makes me think the rangefinder didn't work the first time through and they had to replay it.
5) If you think about it, a living room is kind of an odd prize for Range Game because it's typically played in the fee games (like Grocery), and likewise, a backgammon table is not typical for Grocery.
6) The show ends with an "edited for broadcast" disclaimer.
So, my ears perked up back when Bob made the pinochle table remark just because it was a very odd thing to say. His comments for the rest of the game and Grocery got me wondering more. Does anyone else think they swapped those games' prizes?
The only hole in my conspiracy theory here is...why would the rangefinder not moving necessitate a prize change? Unless the price got revealed for some reason, they could just replay for the original prize once they got the rangefinder moving again.
THe episode airs again at 4pm EST, I believe, if you want to check it out and comment.
I don't remember where I heard this, so don't take my word as gospel, but the story I recall hearing was that when it was time for an aquarium to go back to storage in the prize warehouse, the crew would empty it by dumping it into the drain, fish and all. When Bob found out about that, he said no more aquariums as prizes.That's terrible. Could they not return the fish to whereever they were supplied from?
Is there a set rotation the channel has settled on? The first day's schedule was posted in this thread and it was not exactly straightforward.
Is the channel going in order of production number?
If the schedule holds, though, we should be coming up on a Home Viewer Showcase next Thursday; if we don't, that would seem to indicate they're going by tapedate.
I remember the train being used a lot during the original run, but I have to agree about the overuse of it. I remember 1999 quite well since I had time to catch the morning, non WinTV version of Season's 11 & 12. It seemed as if it wasn't an episode of TPIR unless it made an appearance in every episode, maybe even twice! Not that I had a problem with it, but when I rewatched it I don't recall seeing the use of it (for the IUFB) that many times!
Watching 5 Price Tags now and seeing the "winning" price as a just a red tag with the price instead the "WIN" tag just looks so strange.
I had forgotten how much more time Bob had to spend with the contestants. The banter between them is sometimes pure gold. Some of it would never fly in today's PC world, but that doesn't mean it's not still funny!
on one of today's shows, a Flokati Rug makes a rare pre Press Your Luck appearance... which makes me wonder what other shows had it as a prizeI'm pretty sure a Jog-N-Tramp was a consolation prize too.
He also told a contestant she had nice legs in the 2pm episode.
I saw that yesterday and wondered if it'd show up with the Win Tag or not, when did that get brought in? Late 80's?
And speaking of PC.....the comments Bob made about a new wife listening to her husband during the Showcases, to both her and then the audience when he got some boos for it on an episode yesterday, kinda shocked me. That was pretty racy/bad even for him I feel like. He'd be raked over the coals for that now.
Yep, around 1988.
Mind you this WAS just a year after Dorothy Jo died, not even a year at the time of taping, was [Bob] this randy even when she was alive? I sorta doubt that to this degree.There were certainly instances (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvmckBM7A8Q) (at the 15:39 and 16:42 portions) of Bob being randy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJpO9d4jMgE&t=5m49s) while Dorothy Jo was still alive, yes.
The 1st week wouldn't have been taped out of air order right? I'd assume not. If it somehow was, it might explain why they started with Week 2, but I kinda doubt this.
Are we sure it's fur coats that's keeping Pluto from showing episodes pre-1982? Could it be something else, like licensing issues? Video transfer difficulties? The constant use of the "Family Feud" music?
Are we sure it's fur coats that's keeping Pluto from showing episodes pre-1982?
I saw that yesterday and wondered if it'd show up with the Win Tag or not, when did that get brought in? Late 80's?Per the Timeline, somewhere between 10/30/86 and 3/1/88.
Per the Timeline, somewhere between 10/30/86 and 3/1/88.
That's quite a wide range. I imagine that will be much easier to narrow down as the channel goes further into the run.
^ They aired most of the 1991-92 season.
Seriously, who is the blonde in seat 5 waving hello in almost all if not ALL of the episodes aired. Anyone else notice?
Speaking of such things, knowing Dorothy Jo had passed by this time, it’s interesting to see how friendly Diane is getting with Barker, especially during the credits!
I stand corrected
So all those rumors for years about music licensing and Barker's Beauties keeping old shows from airing were false?I don't think they were false more so that they might have been worked out over time. Licensing issues and cross-ownership kept Classic Concentration, Narz Concentration, and MGHS out of reruns presumably, but they were able to make those work and put them back on the air. I could see the same various things that we've heard that kept Price off the air, from CBS exclusivity to Bob's control to music, finally being resolved.
Random thought, but has the first week of Season 11 not aired because the set is decorated / announced it’s “Season 11 premiere week”? May confuse folks tuning in thinking why are they starting with Season 11 instead of 1.
We are absolutely sure. They've said it quite a few times, including the below Tweet:
https://twitter.com/TPIRBarker/status/1333487971308367874
You never know though, that situation may change someday. :)
You know I hadn't thought of that, you could be right. But then again, they already said socially they were gonna start with Season 11 ahead of the launch, and stated why, so that doesn't really make sense in that context. Who knows though. Maybe it will turn up when they restarted the run from the beginning in a few years time, or maybe sooner, depends on them.True. I was thinking more so of it being tied to a specific date. Other than the fact the shows look “obviously from the 80s”, I doubt anyone outside this site would know the exact date much less the year (even cars aren’t being announced with the year).
Makes sense, since an episode I watched yesterday had Barker (during a Trader Bob playing) giving a (very innocent) friendly kiss on the cheek to Janice, then Holly (!), then Dian. It was bittersweet to watch THAT, knowing what would eventually happen among those four folks. Glad Pluto aired the episode.
Do we also know for sure furs weren’t offered on season premiere week? I know the show sometimes taped season premieres before going on summer break.
I asked this same question a few pages back. Looks like she was in the same seat for multiple shows, some on the same tape days.
Maybe Barker’s new lady friend at the time?
Speaking of such things, knowing Dorothy Jo had passed by this time, it’s interesting to see how friendly Diane is getting with Barker, especially during the credits!
I always thought she was a Price employee, kind of like a contestant coordinator or something of that nature. If I am not completely out of my mind, I want to say I have seen Bob call attention to her at some point. She is visible in that same seat from around 1980 to about 1983.
Also aired at least some of the 86-87 season via Win TV in the early afternoons too (same place 91-92 aired). That was addressed earlier here actually, both of them were.
And in addition, at least a couple episodes after February 1984 and before 1991. That includes 1989-1990 & at least one episode between April 1984 & December 1985. Not sure which episode exactly from the mid 80s, but it was a WinTV episode that featured Balance Game; the 89-90 was actually the Season 18 premiere, also a WinTV episode
Random thought, but has the first week of Season 11 not aired because the set is decorated / announced it’s “Season 11 premiere week”? May confuse folks tuning in thinking why are they starting with Season 11 instead of 1.
I always thought she was a Price employee, kind of like a contestant coordinator or something of that nature. If I am not completely out of my mind, I want to say I have seen Bob call attention to her at some point. She is visible in that same seat from around 1980 to about 1983.
I always thought she was a Price employee, kind of like a contestant coordinator or something of that nature. If I am not completely out of my mind, I want to say I have seen Bob call attention to her at some point. She is visible in that same seat from around 1980 to about 1983.I can't recall her name right now ( I would have to look at the credits) but she was definitely part of the staff. Her job I think was to tell the contestants to sit down after every one bid and she had to make sure the contestants stood at their correct podiums prior to the next one bid. Pretty cool job right? - getting a front row seat during some of the show's best years!
Did anyone catch Bob referring to a little "brawl" backstage between Janice and Dian ahead of 1 Right Price on the show replaying right now (4622D)? That was rather interesting to say the least.....I wonder how serious or not that was given what is known about their issues today.....It was innocent fun. You could tell everyone got along from their body language and how they would chit chat at the end of the show. The Janice-Dian feud didn't start till around 1986 and the issues with Bob didn't start until he became Exec Producer in 1988/89. The shows we are watching now are more golden than Golden Road; they display a harmonious cast that had a great working relationship.
It was innocent fun. You could tell everyone got along from their body language and how they would chit chat at the end of the show. The Janice-Dian feud didn't start till around 1986 and the issues with Bob didn't start until he became Exec Producer in 1988/89. The shows we are watching now are more golden than Golden Road; they display a harmonious cast that had a great working relationship.
I can't recall her name right now ( I would have to look at the credits) but she was definitely part of the staff. Her job I think was to tell the contestants to sit down after every one bid and she had to make sure the contestants stood at their correct podiums prior to the next one bid. Pretty cool job right? - getting a front row seat during some of the show's best years!
Was she the one with the kid shouted out by Johnny in a couple opens ("Here It Comes Marky!" I believe he said)? That would make sense.That is the spouse of director Marc Breslow, Patti, and their child.
Thanks for the info. The wording of that tweet kind of makes it sound like Pluto has control of these reruns ("we're supporting Bob's advocacy of animal rights") rather than Barker telling them what they can/can't show.
GSN has been known to go off-script just because. For good reason too, including putting on an holiday episode (Christmas, Halloween, and April Fool's as mentioned)Also to go with this, can't recall the occasion, but I've heard they've also run all six of the 1986 primetime specials.
Also, I wasn’t aware just how long Stan Blits has been with the show until I saw his name pop up in the credits. Four decades+ is quite a legacy!
I never realized how popular trash compactors, air purifiers and ceiling fans were in the early 80s. Pretty much every episode I’ve popped into this week has featured one of each. 😂Ceiling fans were regularly offered on Price into Bob's final seasons. They were one of the things that stopped being offered after Mike Richards became the EP.
Here’s hoping we go to 2007.
I am hoping so, too! Doing some quick math, if Pluto keeps up with the six new episodes every weekday, do not skip any weekdays for any reason, and air every daytime episode, then we'll get to Bob's last show on October 25, 2023.
Set a reminder in your calendar!! :-P
Speaking of.....what all have they reaired today since the 1st episode?
4581D-4602D for the Saturday reairings. Sunday they should reair 4603D-4624D.
I'm loving the Pluto channel. But honestly it's coming at a cost. I don't have a lot of time to devote to TV these days, and I am actively choosing the Bob shows over the new shows with Drew that are being recorded to my DVR. I haven't missed a new show in 14 years until now (with the exception of power outages and stuff like that). I have to wonder how many are doing the same.
Is there any reason why Pluto doesn't include the original airdates in their online listings?
So they are reairing all 24 then this weekend? I was assuming they were only airing 6 each day from what they posted on their YT channel, unless they changed their mind.
They're currently on the airdate of 10/07/1982. So it looks like they'll wrap with the first week of episodes by 7:00. Not sure how they'll proceed on Monday, given that they started on Tuesday of next week
You know, given there's only 24 they ran this week vs. 30 as I'd assume they'll be be running from Monday, them airing all of them this weekend actually makes sense. I say that because 12 episodes a day fit neatly into 2 6 hour blocks, meaning they could have/are running them twice over the day, and finish the last one for the week right at the point of a refresh for next. I'd bet next weekend may see a few cut for this reason since that 12 would have to be upped to 15, unless they adapt a Tuesday-Friday schedule permanently.
What might happen is that Pluto airs everything as normal, starting on Monday. But on Friday, they start their rerun schedule at 6:00 EST. In other words, they air the first six shows for the week on Friday, then the last 24 on Saturday. Then re-air the first 24 shows for the week on Sunday, and then wrap everything up on Monday from midnight to 6 AM before starting a new week of shows
That's actually pretty smart. I could see that...although I am wondering here, did you mean 6PM or AM Friday? If AM...then you'd still only have 24 shows vs. 30. Otherwise that's pretty solid.
The only hole in my conspiracy theory here is...why would the rangefinder not moving necessitate a prize change? Unless the price got revealed for some reason, they could just replay for the original prize once they got the rangefinder moving again.
That sucks.
I guess time will tell if a new batch of episodes starts at 6 PM. I wasn't able to check to see what aired during Sunday Night Football, and I don't know if I'll be able to tune into anything until around 4:00 today. I'm not sure what's currently airing on Pluto, but I guess they started over and planned on airing the 24 episodes one more time. It will be concerning if there's nothing new after today
Actually no they just started the new batch of episodes beginning with 4625D at noon. So if they do the 6-hour schedule they should reach 4635D before resetting back to 4625D.
Interesting they began it at noon.....wonder why.
My guess is that they don't want to lose viewers of the current show to allow fresh new episodes to start at noon Eastern Time.
My guess is that they don't want to lose viewers of the current show to allow fresh new episodes to start at noon Eastern Time.
So would that mean they might do 3 batches only then from here? That'd be interesting if true.
It should still be 4. Two runs today, then twice tomorrow from Midnight to Noon
Oh yeah, duh......I suppose I shoulda known that lol. Thanks for correcting me. :-)
Looks like they (for now) skipped 4633D, I'm not sure why given that GSN did air that episode in the past...
And thanks to Mr. Weatherman for the source/link of what to expect as it relates to how TPIR will air going forward!
Knowing what we now know from this, we can probably make some educated guesses on when certain episodes will air (Johnny’s final show/Rod officially taking over, Bob’s hair going gray, the infamous 3 Strikes Toni playing, etc.). Provided they skip few or no episodes and keep any special lineups to a minimum around the holidays, we can probably nail down much of the schedule within a few days of certainty for at least the next handful of seasons, perhaps all the way through to Season 35, if someone wants to take up such a project. 🤔
EDIT: I can’t complain about free, but I would be willing to pay a $10-$20 subscription fee for DVR functionality and full frame rate. I’d watch a LOT more Pluto TV as a result!
I guess 4633D tape might be too damaged to air? That's too bad.
It has? Do you happen to have the lineup?
Oct. 20, 1982 did indeed air on GSN, and it's in at least two traders' collections. Ths is the order both collections list the games in.
Huh. Anyone have any idea why it might have been skipped, then? I'd assume either tape damage, a stray fur, or some kind of music licensing issues, but it's certainly possible they just made a mistake.
Considering they straight up left in a clip from Hot Stuff by Donna Summer during a Jukebox prize on a Showcase today, it’s probably safe to assume that any and all music problems are a complete non issue with these.
Wonder if that means the 20th anniversary week when they hit that, airs fully unedited for 1st time (GSN did edit them didn't they? I recall they did?), since it had Madonna playing over the credits for a few of those shows anyway.
I've told this story many times and I'm still hoping to see this come up on YouTube, but I'll re-tell it.
It's 1982 and Lucky 7 is being played for a Jeep Renegade, a fairly nice vehicle and more expensive than most cars seen on the show. But, they haven't started playing Lucky 7 (or many other games, for that matter) for 5-digit cars yet. As Bob finished explaining the game, the contestant seems not to completely understand, and the dialogue between him and Bob goes something like this:
Contestant- "Oh, I guess it costs about...$11,000."
Bob- "OK...well, then what do you think the first number in the price is?"
Contestant- "A one!"
Bob- (looks at studio audience and then into the cameras) "I hate this. I hate to do this to him, but now I have to show him. He says one. What's the first number?"
The first number is revealed to be a nine. The contestant has lost on the first guess, for the first time ever...something I'm sure Bob made a point of mentioning just then.
This playing is about to air on Pluto (10pm EST), so you can see for yourself.
I’m really surprised Bob didn’t stop him when he said “oh, about $12,000” and remind him that it was only 4 digits, seeing as how in the very next segment he didn’t want a contestant to bid $601 after they tried going with a repeat bid. He must’ve been through with that contestant and let him dig his own grave.
This playing is about to air on Pluto (10pm EST), so you can see for yourself.
What's the OAD of the show?
I do somewhat think Bob should've reminded the contestant the Jeep only had four digits in the price. I remember in his later seasons Bob would more often than not stop contestants from making bad decisions like that and walk contestants through games, but I guess that wasn't the case earlier on.
Yeah, there doesn't seem to be any issues with music clearances (yet). I was even worried for a little bit that they weren't going to feature Hurdles, Safe Crackers, Race Game, or Switcheroo, since they all used copyrighted music.
So for those keeping score with the airdates, given the seemingly skipped episode in the rotation yesterday/today, the 1st episode of the next batch should be the one with Bill Cullen's appearance in it.
We'll know in a few hours (assuming another Noon ET start for Tuesday's cycle), but it's 3am Pacific and I've just had the thought that I *could* see that episode being skipped or else the Bill cameo being edited out. Although the Pluto channel's a CBS/Fremantle joint venture, CBS has no stake in Child's Play in 2020, nor is it something even airing on Buzzr to promote. And the appearance *does* use footage. Plus Bill's appearance takes up well over 4 minutes (and ad time is king).
Absolutely hope I'm wrong and beyond a couple of things I've seen on the Fremantle side with Buzzr I don't even have any reason to think I'm right (we'll see in a few hours). But just a wayward overnight thought.
You know, every so often I wonder why Child's Play didn't make it to the 1983-1984 season (unless it did). I think it was a good show with a legend of a host. I don't know or think it was at the level of the $25,000 Pyramid or Tattletales but unless it lasted as long as it did due to Press Your Luck not being ready to air, I would have guessed that it would have been on CBS for another season.
Interesting that the regular buzzer went off for the showcase overbid, which didn't seem right. Then again though on the very early episodes from 1972, the foghorn didn't debut yet, so it was safe to assume that this was a mistake on whoever was running the sound effects at the time.
I am SO happy to have been wrong. DELIGHTED.
Eh, you're violating the terms of service of PlutoTV. It's a civil breach of contract, not criminal copyright infringement.
Also, is there any immorality in sticking it to ViacomCBS? :lol:
I would also add that circumvention of geofences probably hinders more the resolution of the problem of getting international clearance. If people didn't circumvent them but chimed in en masse to ask for the content to be distributed internationally, then the powers that be would have a better representation of the demand. It's not as if they can't make money the more eyeballs they grab in different jurisdictions, all with with locally-relevant advertising.
Not that there are that many people outside of the U.S. clamouring to see The Price Is Right on Pluto TV, but more a more hotly-desired program, I'd see it possible.
Interesting that the regular buzzer went off for the showcase overbid, which didn't seem right. Then again though on the very early episodes from 1972, the foghorn didn't debut yet, so it was safe to assume that this was a mistake on whoever was running the sound effects at the time.To be fair, through the years the regular buzzer has been used for going over in Grocery Game, Check Game, Bullseye and Credit Card, as well as Card Game and Check-Out before they reverted to the foghorn later on.
To be fair, through the years the regular buzzer has been used for going over in Grocery Game, Check Game, Bullseye and Credit Card, as well as Card Game and Check-Out before they reverted to the foghorn later on.
Not only that, but there have been a lot of instances in these Pluto episodes of the foghorn being used in games that normally wouldn't use them in later years. I heard it used for "SORRY" reveals in Bullseye and "NO" reveals in Five Price Tags (even if it wasn't the one that decided the loss).
To be fair, through the years the regular buzzer has been used for going over in Grocery Game, Check Game, Bullseye and Credit Card, as well as Card Game and Check-Out before they reverted to the foghorn later on.
Yeah, "Don't show the price!" appears to be a running bit with Trader Bob...you can see it in a lot of other playings. I think it started just the way Temptation said.
On the 6pm show with Bill Cullen, they added the first of the classic turntable colors on the turning panel. I wonder why they delayed changing the whole scheme at one...it looks really bizarre and out of place.
On the 6pm show with Bill Cullen, they added the first of the classic turntable colors on the turning panel. I wonder why they delayed changing the whole scheme at one...it looks really bizarre and out of place.Was the Barker wall changed on the same show? The 8PM CST repeat has the new wall.
Was the Barker wall changed on the same show? The 8PM CST repeat has the new wall.
Yes it was
On the 6pm show with Bill Cullen, they added the first of the classic turntable colors on the turning panel. I wonder why they delayed changing the whole scheme at one...it looks really bizarre and out of place.
I’ve seen several playings of Trader Bob where the “Don”t show the price!” comment happens. I think it became kind of a running joke with Bob and the models in this game. I know of at least one playing where a price got revealed early because the models accidentally ran two of the prize podiums together and a price cover fell open. (If memory serves, the run together happened behind the game board and the price was hanging open when the model wheeled the prize on stage). I’m not sure if there was another instance of something like this happening or not.
Is bailing at $500 with 2 punches to go the best move though? $500 is good any day, no matter who you are. I think bailing with $500 in 1982 is okay on the 2nd punch, but I don't know if it's the right call if that had occurred today (or since 1996)
$500 is the minimum now isn't it? No way anyone keeps that now if so. I'd say in general $500 being taken, is totally a product of its' time. In the 80's was worth something, not as much now especially after taxes.
Speaking of site issues BTW, I've noticed the inaccessibility errors have been increasing again last few days. Anybody have any idea why? It's coming up frequently.
Off the top of my head, I don't think $500 is the minimum today. Maybe it's $100, but definitely not $50 I don't think.
I noticed on the Pricing Game calendar that 4633D (10-20-82) is no longer gray shaded. Did it air yesterday after being skipped over the day before?
Ditto. Also, the safe staying locked in Safe Crackers triggered the foghorn. I'm not sure when this ended, but I watched a 1990 episode and they still used it.
In addition to that, Hole in One used it in Season 20 several times, which is somewhat of a reversal given the fact that they often didn't early on, including 4642D and at least most episodes during the very early days of the show.
They've actually used the foghorn in Card Game & Check-Out for simply losing outright (not going over); definitely the former was the case which IIRC happens later this season or the next
> Do you have any idea why episode 4633 was skipped?
Likely due to technical issues. If the quality once digitized does not meet current broadcast standards we won't be able to air it. That is likely why, we are trying to air everything in order.
From the November 5, 1982 ep. Look at that jacket. I take it Bob must've won the Masters. XD
From the November 5, 1982 ep. Look at that jacket. I take it Bob must've won the Masters. XD
Interesting that you say that, because as I am typing this there is a contestant playing Hole in One from Augusta, GA (which is where I am from)! Bob talked with her about the Masters, too!
(I've lived here 30 years and have never been to the Masters golf tournament. Drive by it all the time, but never been out there.)
Anyway, in answer to your question, UltraPrice: No it did not air yesterday. Looks like it was confirmed by a couple sources what the line-up was. Some people have an old collection of shows that included 4633D so that’s good.
That's exactly what happened.
Still no idea why that show didn't get aired, though.
It’s possible the original film of that episode got damaged in the time period between when GSN had possession of it when they converted them, and now.I believe in '82 it'd still be a 2" Quad videotape. After all, they were still using the Norelco tube cameras. 2" is a very high quality format, but very temperamental, and the machines are getting harder to find. I don't know if sticky-shed syndrome comes into play with 2" often, but I have seen reference to the foam backing in 2" reels degrading and the adhesive gumming up the tape itself. It could have also been "eaten" by a misaligned machine. There are any number of possibilities, 2" has a number of interesting failure modes.
The 2" tapes were already transferred over to Digibeta back in the '90s. I did noticed some minor Betacam errors on a few episodes so far. The one with Bill Cullen's cameo had issues during the opening before the first item up for bids. Stuff just happens.
I believe they were transferred by GSN who did not supply Freemantle with their copy of the episodes they converted to Digibeta, so Freemantle is stuck back at square one with the quad reels
A particularly interesting place in TV City's basement is its so-called "Jurassic Park" videotape center. In the early 1990s, several old quad VTRs were acquired and brought back to proper specifications to enable the dubbing of programs on two-inch tape to Digital Betacam. Mark Goodson Productions was the first major customer. Twenty-four hours a day and seven days a week for months, CBS handled the archiving of the Goodson-Todman videotape library. Thousands of tapes were processed. Two Digital Betacam dubs were made of each two-inch master; one went to Goodson and the other to Sony for use on its cable Game Show Network. I'm told that the output of one of the dubbing stations was placed on a closed-circuit channel inside Television City. The vintage shows were quite a hit with employees in the building.
The recent switch-off of a cluster of Youtube uploads from the GSN days through ContentID*
Thing I've noticed in the episodes from after the Summer '82 taping break:
The lighting was absolutely re-done during the tape break. Don't know if 33 just got a new lighting grid (haven't scrutinized the episodes that hard - yet) or if they made more deliberate creative changes, but the lighting on nearly every shot has changed (less of a whitewash with fill lighting, more darkness and shadow and darker tones).
I believe they were transferred by GSN who did not supply Freemantle with their copy of the episodes they converted to Digibeta, so Freemantle is stuck back at square one with the quad reels
To run on the Pluto TV Internet channel, however, these tapes need to be converted to computer files.
This stance is admirable but unrealistic. No one is going to stop finding ways to back-door their way into the programming they want to see — which, per your argument, would mean no resolution will ever be found. So...hop on a VPN and enjoy what you’re missing. :P
The lighting was absolutely re-done during the tape break. Don't know if 33 just got a new lighting grid (haven't scrutinized the episodes that hard - yet) or if they made more deliberate creative changes, but the lighting on nearly every shot has changed (less of a whitewash with fill lighting, more darkness and shadow and darker tones).
I totally miss this blue "spyhole" circles that were done during One Bid. I'm not sure what the official name or the best way to describe it; I'm sorry. Just one of several things that were done away with when Paul Alter took over from Marc
Really painful DOB on the 6pm reairing......the 2nd contestant Esther was only over by $5......how many over the years have been over by that or less? Anyone got a general idea?At least two (one in 1974, one in 2004) were over by only $1. (If memory serves, the 2004 instance was a $12,000 bid on an $11,999 Showcase).
At least two (one in 1974, one in 2004) were over by only $1. (If memory serves, the 2004 instance was a $12,000 bid on an $11,999 Showcase).
This is going strictly by memory, but I seem to recall the episodes being aired out of order between now and around Christmas 82 because of differences in the set. It would go back to the old background one episode then the new the next.
Week 11 (467): November 15-19
During this week's shows, the Home Viewer Showcase "Family Christmas" is presented.
On this week's shows, all panels of the Turntable wall except for the back side of the spinning panel are changed to display the purple-red-orange pattern, and the chase lights on the Turntable walls are removed. This change is not permanent at this time, as this week of shows was taped out of order.
I had to laugh a moment ago on the 3am rerun that's almost over as I type this. I love Johnny, and to this day see him as the best announcer Price has ever had, even as good as Rod and now George is (Rich I'd say is 4th), but him referring to Nintendo as "Ninetendo" in the showcase when describing the Palmtex hand-held game really was funny to me.While watching an episode of Narz Concentration, Johnny was describing some “TV Games” made by Coleco, which he pronounced as “Co-leck-oh” even as the logo at the time said “Colēco”. A later episode had him pronounce it correctly, but it was jarring to hear him say it wrong.
I’m really really enjoying Penny Ante, Poker Game, Trader Bob, & Hit Me.... I always loved these games & I’m excited to see them all again. I’m missing Hurdles... has it been on & I just missed it or was it retired before these episodes?
You just missed it by a few days as Hurdles was on one of the shows that aired on Monday.
Poor Gina, if she had bid $15,000 on that showcase or thereabouts, she would have won them both and would have had a huge haul.
I think you might have a chance to catch it between 12-1 EST.
I guess not. They've moved onto 4963D. Seventh new episode of the day. Still a long way to go in terms of figuring out how Pluto will run their episodes on a regular basis or what they mentioned in their release
Just announced on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/TPIRBarker/posts/131124108814011
"Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!"
Just announced on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/TPIRBarker/posts/131124108814011
"Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!"
If they want to make it the best it can be, they should have the content available on demand. Twenty-four hours a day of new episodes with no licit way to record them doesn't really give the die-hard fans they have a chance to keep up with the action. I'm sure many former contestants and their relations would love to see their appearances again. There's really no need for a blink-and-you-missed-it approach here.
Just announced on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/TPIRBarker/posts/131124108814011
"Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!"
Personally, if they wanted to make The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, what they've done over the past week or two was just that.
Right now, I'm not a fan of this. I think a big reason is the lack of warning and communication from them to the fans & viewers. I don't think it's a great idea that we're finding out after the fact. Not that it will change one's plans outside of TPIR: TBE!
We'll see the reaction, but airing new episodes outright is not the way to go. No one's watching 25 years consecutively, and it's impossible to DVR everything. As mentioned, it would be nice if it's available on demand after it airs. That, and leave what's on YouTube alone, especially if their full episodes are not on demand. Not just clips of certain moments, actual full episodes
YouTube would actually be a great place to put at least a smattering of new episodes, if they weren't gonna do an On-Demand route strictly. It'd be some form of archive at least.Only problem is that would make too much sense.
Remember...the casual fans, not the small percentage of people cataloging these show, will watch a few episodes every few days. Thats the main audience. I'm a big fan of Price...and thats what I'm doing too.
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I'm just happy that after two decades we're seeing reruns.
Remember...the casual fans, not the small percentage of people cataloging these show, will watch a few episodes every few days. Thats the main audience. I'm a big fan of Price...and thats what I'm doing too.
And they won’t care whether it’s the same 6 episodes in a loop or not. 24/7 new episodes is a middle finger to the die hards who want to watch everything.
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I'm just happy that after two decades we're seeing reruns.
Remember...the casual fans, not the small percentage of people cataloging these show, will watch a few episodes every few days. Thats the main audience. I'm a big fan of Price...and thats what I'm doing too.
But they just said that they want to air MORE episodes. That refutes your point.
100 ep block isn't the worst in the world. Hopefully they can get a schedule going.
On Discord we have a couple users with automated scripts that look promising in getting these episodes recorded. I am thinking over the best way to then have those available for all who want it.
I have a feeling they'll reverse this decision by the end of the weekend, and they just really want Plinko to debut already.
It would be nice if they could decide on something consistent.
Well 100 episodes starting today takes us to around mid-April 1983, and I feel that after this flush of episodes is processed, a loop of the first 3/4's or so of Season 11 will likely air at least a few more times so that Pluto can get the next batch of episodes ready. Since the blocking of YouTube episodes was the biggest indicator, I feel that we won't see any other new-to-Pluto stuff until another content ID wave goes off. That end point comes shortly before the new 1983 music package was introduced. By watching a little at a time, you're apt to get a mix of haven't seen and have seen shows, which is part of the experiment that Pluto is attempting. I prefer the four cycles of six per day, but we'll see how this plays out. Hopefully we won't have to wait several months for a fresh batch of episodes like you do on BUZZR.
Hopefully we won't have to wait several months for a fresh batch of episodes like you do on BUZZR.
If they want to make it the best it can be, they should have the content available on demand. Twenty-four hours a day of new episodes with no licit way to record them doesn't really give the die-hard fans they have a chance to keep up with the action. I'm sure many former contestants and their relations would love to see their appearances again. There's really no need for a blink-and-you-missed-it approach here.
Anybody know the name of the jazz song that played during a second showcase yesterday? It was a popular tune back in the day, and I'm struggling to identify it.
The showcase skit had Johnny in a tuxedo, then Dian wearing a beautiful dress, then a fancy car as the final prize. It sounds like Spyro Gyra, but I'm not sure it is.
Ah .... the '80s. Speaking of which: How cool is it that they're leaving the music intact the same way it originally aired?
Buzzr has been hurt particularly by Covid, they haven’t been able to get people into their studio to work on digitizing, hopefully they should get better after the New Year.In their defense, December is a slow month for them in general... at least until the week of the 21st. Business will be picking up then.
At least two (one in 1974, one in 2004) were over by only $1. (If memory serves, the 2004 instance was a $12,000 bid on an $11,999 Showcase).
Some of you folks here aren’t going to be satisfied no matter what Pluto does. We’re getting reruns of episodes not seen in almost 40 years...and yet you’re still complaining. Pluto is likely one day to completely pull the channel and we won’t have anything. We should be thankful we have a place where we can get our Bob fix of Price anytime we want.
And call me crazy, but I like the new change. The first week, I caught Price a few days (Wednesday and Saturday) for a few hours each day (which is what your casual viewer is doing, not the die hards here that are likely recording each episode). By the time Saturday came, I was already seeing repeats. I would imagine the 100-episode block is so that the casual viewers aren’t seeing repeats as often.
Also, I hope the channel stays for longer than just showing everything through once. Most of us probably want to get to some Rod Roddy episodes at some point. The only way we’re going to get there in any kind of quick fashion is for new episodes to actually air.
This is AWESOME!!!
I don't think you are going to have to worry about Pluto TV going anywhere! They have been around for several years and are always adding new content. There was a playing of Bonus Game around an episode I watched at about 7:45 PM (CST) and the lady had 3/4 small prize windows lit, and my Internet connection goes down, just as Bob says, "I'm almost afraid to proceed. I don't know how many times a contestant got 3/4 prizes right, and lost the bonus prize window." Did she win?
Question are they going in episode blocks per day and than repeating them at night? If so how many episodes in a block? I saw a Hurdles playing and part of the episode with the lady who takes the long way around to "Come on Down" (Marlene Miles!) and the same show where an audience member's gum flies out of her mouth when giving bidding advice!
The only downsides are that Pluto TV has no schedule or keyword search to find shows, which would be a Godsend if added!
Joe
And call me crazy, but I like the new change. The first week, I caught Price a few days (Wednesday and Saturday) for a few hours each day (which is what your casual viewer is doing, not the die hards here that are likely recording each episode). By the time Saturday came, I was already seeing repeats. I would imagine the 100-episode block is so that the casual viewers aren’t seeing repeats as often.
Saturday was designated for repeats.
Guys,
Do you think that Pluto can only do episodes from 1982 and beyond because they can't show any episodes where furs were given away as prizes? And if they go from 1972-1981, they would have to axe any such episodes with furs in them?
This is exactly why, GSN never aired any fur episodes either. Although some feel differently, I suspect this rule won’t outlive Bob. Once Bob is gone, after a sufficient amount of time has passed, I think they’ll go backwards in the archive, perhaps air them with a disclaimer similar to what WB, Disney, and MGM do with racially insensitive cartoons from the 30’s and 40’s.
Given the fact that they've lacked consistency, I've been wondering if on Christmas (or even Christmas week) we could see a full day of Christmas shows the show has done within Bob's last 25 years. I don't think I'd sit through that (as if it were Midnight Madness for College Hoops), but in my honest opinion, if Pluto aired those Christmas episodes consecutively I would love it.
I'm not going to bet that obviously. At least this year. Unless they edited/formatted those episodes to the point where they'd be ready to air on Pluto Television
Nothing from the first ten seasons. Several reasons & guidelines prevent that from happening now. Outside of bad quality, I don't see those airing anytime soon, if at all
They played Clock Game for a car?!
That was Route 101 by Herb Alpert. I hear that quite a bit on Yacht Rock Radio on Sirius XM.That's it! Thanks a lot.
4733D appears to have been skipped. That bumps up the first Plinko to a bit past 100 minutes after I post this, 10 EST / 7 PST.
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Contrary to what's listed on the timeline, the disco ball was just used for Plinko again.Also, the old SP reveal is in use (with the diagonal WIN! taking up a single white card), but all the right prices are white numbers on red cards.
[Blank Check image]Streamable of the playing, thanks vhs. (https://streamable.com/ozxs6t) (will stay up for 90 days)
Contrary to what's listed on the timeline, the disco ball was just used for Plinko again.
EDIT: And the WIN/price reveal is still from the first playing.
This is why I would wish they weren't airing these all at once honestly......these little things can be so easily missed now......
This is why I would wish they weren't airing these all at once honestly......these little things can be so easily missed now......
Jean winning DP for a car was pure freaking money. Just in case you missed that.
And Leroy Anderson. 😢
It's funny in a way, I was heavily invested in trying to keep up with the shows when it was just 6 a day, but since yesterday the desire to has lessened a bit because it's just so much to begin with so almost feels fruitless to bother. Not that it wasn't a lot before, but at least there was a more manageable pattern and wouldn't miss as much if you did skip some as I actually ended up doing this week admittedly.
The only ones I really made a point to watch were the Christmas week shows last night/early this morning, and even then I missed the 1st one and the first portion of the 2nd not knowing they were on (appreciate you making mention of em airing, woulda missed them entirely had I not seen that), haven't really at all otherwise since yesterday morning.
The other thing that kinda sucks about it, is the fact that if Pluto glitches up on my end, which has happened a fair few times since launch, you can't go back and catch what you missed like you coulda before. You miss it, you miss it till the next rotation if you remember it's back on.....I guess it's a throwback to the early days before VCRs, but still kinda stinks.
I hope as they cycle through shows, they put the previous aired ones on demand. I could possibly see that being a thing. Would be nice if they aren't gonna have multiple cycles/periods airing at once right now.
Just curious: What device are you using? Are you using a smartphone, your PC, or maybe Roku to view the show? When I've streamed in the past, I haven't had too many issues, especially when you deal with Xfinity. Of course I had the option of rewinding & recording. The freezing & skipping does suck.
I not going to hold my breath that they put this run on demand right now. It's too soon despite the uncertainty that they'll re-air them soon or not until they air everything else. I think they would have to do it in a way that doesn't ruin the channel. I respect it if they don't; it'll mean you'd have to tune in if you want to see something from the classics.
Total speculation: I can see them emulating what GSN does with Family Feud, down the road. For instance, they can air consecutive episodes from a season for 4 hours, then a different episode from another season for 4 hours, and so on. Say they air Season 15 from 2-6 on Wednesday, and then they move to, let's say Season 27 from 6-10. The following & previous day they would continue with where they left off at the same timeslot
Is it just me or was the big wheel loose around this time frame? Seems to me that it took a little longer for the wheel to slow down and stop on a certain number.Yes the Big Wheel seems very loose during these shows, likely to reduce the number of spins that don’t make one full revolution.
Yes the Big Wheel seems very loose during these shows, likely to reduce the number of spins that don’t make one full revolution.
Later on Sunday, an episode will air that has Hurdles in Act III and Race Game in Act IV and I’m wondering whether or not our old FPG friend Dob would have considered that a conflict?
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Did anyone get a vid/could they post one of the woman named K in the last segment just aired now, that had what has to be the longest and really shortest name in Price is Right history? It deserves to be captured I think.
That was a great moment. I wondered if that was already out there in a highlights reel on YouTube somewhere. I've never heard of anyone with a name like that in my life. For those who missed it, her nametag said only "K." She handed Bob a card when he asked if her name was only one letter. The card could be seen briefly on camera. She had a first name that appeared to be over 50 letters long. Bob tried to read out the name and gave up halfway through.
The funniest moment I've seen yet on the Pluto airings is in the dice game where a woman rolled a 5 for the second number and guessed that the correct number was higher. Bob tried to make sure she understood the rules after she rolled again and it was clear she was confused. By the end was glancing back at the second number with a worried look. But then it turned out that number was a 6 and she won the car. Bob went to commercial saying, "This just proves that you don't even need to know what you're doing to win on The Price is Right."
How late? They may repeat before then if I had my timing right.....they would hit 100 episodes as of the 9am airing. If that's all they got, they would be repeating beginning at 10.
Assuming no skips 11:00am CST
The hundred episode loop includes all episodes that ever aired on Pluto TV. We're back to 4581D, unfortunately.
We were this close to getting the drunk show, aw.
Did anyone get a vid/could they post one of the woman named K in the last segment just aired now, that had what has to be the longest and really shortest name in Price is Right history? It deserves to be captured I think.
It's happened a few times over the years that a contestant playing was found to be ineligible and that announcement was made at the end of the show. I recall at least once it was because the contestant was found to be related (married?) to a CBS employee, and another time because the contestant was on the show before (prior to contestants being eligible once every 10 years).
I'm just gonna throw up a request here: Does anyone have videos of the four shows they've skipped? We're missing 4633D, 4733D, 4775D, and 4784D. I know at least the first two are in people's tape collections.
(I'm not bothering asking for premiere week -- I don't know of anyone having them, and I think it's fairly likely they're somehow under the contract for Season 10 and will show up if the channel ever gets back that far.)
Streamable of the interaction in question: https://streamable.com/f052ns
Why do you think that they'd be under the Season 10 contract? Accident?
Just like Edwin’s Lucky 7 blowout, this was a moment I was not sure I would ever see again, and I have never talked to anyone else who remembers it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YERfsQG4Hs4&fbclid=IwAR3rWoT-zuP67bDswLmdWDbFKT5dHMxfpvzY5W6PaI6fcASpz6g98OF66Tg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YERfsQG4Hs4&fbclid=IwAR3rWoT-zuP67bDswLmdWDbFKT5dHMxfpvzY5W6PaI6fcASpz6g98OF66Tg)
The main event is that they haul out a diagram, complete with pointer, of how Check Game works, but this is also worth watching for a reference to Plinko as an as-yet unseen-by-the-public game.
I've noticed the references to "unairable copies" in the Timeline, and it got me thinking... is it possible that instead of outright "skipping over" those four shows, that they might be saving them for a specific occasion? I ask since I've seen Buzzr "set aside" shows in that same manner for different gimmick events (the upcoming Betty White Christmas week, for instance), and since we think the same people in charge of Buzzr are running the Pluto channel, it's conceivable that the same thing may be taking place here as well.
That was posted here before via streamable, but nice to see they posted it as well.
I've noticed the references to "unairable copies" in the Timeline, and it got me thinking... is it possible that instead of outright "skipping over" those four shows, that they might be saving them for a specific occasion? I ask since I've seen Buzzr "set aside" shows in that same manner for different gimmick events (the upcoming Betty White Christmas week, for instance), and since we think the same people in charge of Buzzr are running the Pluto channel, it's conceivable that the same thing may be taking place here as well.
I'm just gonna throw up a request here: Does anyone have videos of the four shows they've skipped? We're missing 4633D, 4733D, 4775D, and 4784D. I know at least the first two are in people's tape collections.
Consider this one a bonus from me for anyone reading this post - 4733D (12/29/1982): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xxKiadwDIF9b-tXwiy3U-DoNBKx01NQU/view?usp=sharing
It's also a great case study for the edits GSN made to a typical ep (the runtime comes in a minute shorter) vs. what Fremantle is playing out for Pluto.
There was one on 4682D, which aired on the third episode of the last 52, at 8 AM EST on 12/11. We already knew about that DSW, however.
Slight theory: did they skip 4733D because they thought the rickshaw as the 1st IUFB was offensive? Granted, some of Bob's comments that they have aired aren't exactly squeaky-clean, either...
This is going back to shows aired, but does anyone know of the 100 they've run/are repeating now, if any have had a DSW win? Having watched much of the 1st 2 weeks before they went all new/different shows vs. cycling, I didn't see any there so unless I missed one I don't think there were any in those first 48, but what about the last 52 they ran? Any there that anyone woulda caught?
Yes. At least one. Go back up and find my FINALLY reply. Posted it shorty after it “aired”, if you want a time frame.
Slight theory: did they skip 4733D because they thought the rickshaw as the 1st IUFB was offensive? Granted, some of Bob's comments that they have aired aren't exactly squeaky-clean, either...
Just watched the episode as it was posted here. I wasn't sure if the rickshaw would do it. Then when I saw the oriental rug come up as a prize, I said A-HA, that's it. I guarantee you the episode was skipped because of the oriental rug. I expect Fremantle will ban any episodes offering an oriental rug from airing as fast as Bob Barker banned the episodes with fur coats.
Although it may not make sense to a lot of people, the term "oriental" has become controversial enough that in 2016 a federal law was passed to ban the term from being used in any form by the government. See the quote:
"[Oriental] is an insulting term that needed to be removed from the books, and I am extremely pleased that my legislation to do that is now the law of the land,” Meng said in a statement."
In my research to understand the controversy around this term when I saw Buzzr was blocking it, it appeared that some people considered it offensive when it was used to describe people. It wasn't necessarily supposed to be offensive when used to describe objects. But as usual when it comes to censorship, the common sense and nuance of the situation is abandoned in favor of a blanket ban, just to "be safe." But for all I know, the people who first started questioning the word now consider it offensive no matter in what context it's used. The word has gone through an evolution in which it's now considered taboo and people in the media are "scared" enough to want to avoid the word completely.
No, Buzzr doesn't execute their policies perfectly and sometimes an episode slips through with the word "oriental" or with other words they wouldn't normally allow on the air. But those are mistakes and not their policy.
[Theory about oriental rug being the reason for the missing episodes]
You know, I think it genuinely irritated Barker when people didn't know how to price season tickets to sports events based on the numbers of home games each teams played. How long did they go on using those tickets as prizes? I only think they tried it for a few years.
Couldn't that be deceiving though in a way? I'd almost wonder if that woulda been part of why they stopped trying it as much as anything.
What confuses me about the season tickets prizes is that they’re only of value to people who live in the immediate greater Los Angeles area, and even by 82/83, a good portion of the contestants were from all over the country. If a person from Milwaukee wins season tickets for LA sports teams, you’re essentially guaranteeing that they’re going to forfeit the prize, unless they had a suitable alternative for those people.
Does anyone have any idea when episode # 4734D (aired Dec. 30, 1982) will air again? It aired this past Saturday morning on Pluto, and I'm hoping they air it again this week.
In that episode: The contestant who played Money Game (Linda) said she'd give the car to her son if she won it. She did, and she did. It was one of the most heartwarming things I've ever seen on the show, and want to see it again.
What confuses me about the season tickets prizes is that they’re only of value to people who live in the immediate greater Los Angeles area, and even by 82/83, a good portion of the contestants were from all over the country. If a person from Milwaukee wins season tickets for LA sports teams, you’re essentially guaranteeing that they’re going to forfeit the prize, unless they had a suitable alternative for those people.
I think they used it for Take Two once upon a time, but that might've been a dream (or nightmare)
Nice thinking, but no. Not only have I seen "Oriental" furniture on Sale of the Century on Buzzr several times, but there was definitely an "Oriental" desk that popped up several times (actually one should have popped up again literally an hour or two ago), and if you want to watch again, at around 12:50 AM tomorrow, 12/15, the second Showcase of 4655D will have an Oriental rug.
No one is ever really sure why certain episodes are skipped.Then why are you getting into pointless speculation?
Censoring the word "oriental" is something I believe Buzzr has started doing in the last two or so years.
Wasn't it that in the Drew Carey era if they offered season tickets to a professional sports franchise it was to the team of your choice, so as to serve contestants who might not live in the Los Angeles area (or even be fans of Los Angeles teams).
Kind of like Classic Concentration, where the prize was "Season Tickets To Your Favorite Team" ... while that might imply that the tickets were to be for a professional team, it could mean college or even high school. No one team was specified.
Brian
They did indeed, and it aired the other day. Not surprisingly, it was lost.
They've probably aired the September 17th episode at least four times now and each time it's on I've missed the first half. Judging by Judith's big total at the end I'm guessing she won It's Optional but if she reacted in such a way to winning a truck I can imagine she'd be just as if not more excited over winning two cars. Also interesting that aside from November 23rd there's yet to be a DSW especially considering the season following already had at least three by that time.
Would they have struggled to get DSW's in the less than $100 era much, relative to the $250 or less? I'd wonder if even before they decided to up it if it was a problem, given just 1 in this batch of shows. But could be an anomaly given what you say about them having at least 3 at same point the following season.
The frequency of a DSW can vary. There can be instances such as Season 12, Season 34 or Season 39 having three within a month or there can be a large drought such as Seasons 25, 26, 45 and 47 or they can be spread out during a season such as Season 31 and 33. Frankly I'd think it would be slightly easier during the era that Pluto TV is currently airing considering the number of Splendido and Department Store Showcases and the multitudes of Ford Escorts and Mazda GLCs.
I've noticed a LOT of repeating to that end in general. I almost have to laugh at how often I have heard the phrase "It's a Ceiling Fan Light!" in One-Bid Rounds, seems like they come up/came up all the time there back then.
I bought and installed a ceiling fan just the other day. Very useful prize, far better than designer shoes.You need a fan, you buy a fan. Women dream of $1000 shoes, but they don't buy them. They win them? They are happy.
Watching these older episodes, Bob mentioned something called "The Bob Barker Fun & Games Show". Can anyone clue me in on what that's about?
I have seen Password episodes where the word "oriental" is silenced out.
You have? Which ones? The only episode I'm aware of that got blatantly edited was the 8/26/85 episode of Super Password. The Ca$hword was "Minstrel", and Gautier gave the clue "blackface". Buzzr lopped out that entire Ca$hword, so it cut to commercial very awkwardly.Well, there was I believe the self-censoring done by Password Plus or NBC before it went to air where the clue was, I think, "Mafia" and they blacked out the word and all the clues used to get it. It was a very awkward stretch. I can't recall any Buzzr edits besides this mentioned one.
Well, there was I believe the self-censoring done by Password Plus or NBC before it went to air where the clue was, I think, "Mafia" and they blacked out the word and all the clues used to get it. It was a very awkward stretch.
To answer the question as to whether the season tickets for all four LA sports teams was ever won, YES.
They are all won playing Danger Price in this episode from 1977:
Also, they were all won playing Race Game at least once on April 9, 1982. Does anyone have video of this or another time they were won (if there were any)?
I have heard it said that the show gave the equivalent money value of the tickets rather that the actual tickets. I don’t know the source of that info.
Hi!! I saw a few minutes ago PlutoTV will show Christmas episodes on Christmas Day. I'm looking forward to it. I have one episode taped in 1986 on VHS from Game Show Network.
No they didn't, not sure which seasons they'll show the episodes though.
There was some discussion here earlier on about how they'll proceed with Christmas on Pluto. It would be pretty neat if they ran the Christmas shows from 1982-1996 & 1998-2006. Maybe they'll focus on 80s episodes but I wouldn't be surprised if they focused on Season 11 and reran it all day
You have? Which ones?
I think it genuinely irritated Barker when people didn't know how to price season tickets to sports events based on the numbers of home games each teams played.
Casual fans should know the Rams would be the cheapest, since they only play eight regular season home games.
Ok, let's say it this way then, did they show footage of any episodes from after the classic padded Orange and Purple turntable was a permanent fixture, or any that saw Bob with Gray Hair? That'd be one way to tell if they were showing anything past this current season or not.
Sidenote, maybe this was asked before, but why were there no Christmas shows in 1997? Kinda peculiar.
No, it wasn't peculiar. Quite often during the 80s and 90s they would rerun the previous season's Xmas shows instead of tape new ones. It probably saved money on the set budget that season.
Also, they were all won playing Race Game at least once on April 9, 1982.
3.) No original "Pick a Pair" carousel music. What was the name of that theme? I loved that music! Kind of disappointed that it was removed. Is this right? Or was the music added later?
No, it wasn't peculiar. Quite often during the 80s and 90s they would rerun the previous season's Xmas shows instead of tape new ones. It probably saved money on the set budget that season.
Touche, didn't realize just how common it was till looking at FAQ, from the post previous thought it was an anomaly more.
This does beg an interesting question though. In 1985...say Johnny didn't die, would they have still done a Christmas week do you think? I noticed there wasn't one, and I suspect that was much of why which would make sense.
If I had to bet, I think they do. Though if Rod had been hired right away (or if they just had Gene succeed Johnny) I think they would've done a Christmas Week. Probably wasn't ideal during the audition process that started (airing) over a week before Christmas
The music was added [to Pick a Pair] later, around the time the colors were updatedThe music was added at some point in between the recording of the December 21, 1984 episode and the end of the March 1985 tapings (as it can be heard in very early Tom Kennedy-hosted episodes).
The music was added at some point in between the recording of the December 21, 1984 episode and the end of the March 1985 tapings (as it can be heard in very early Tom Kennedy-hosted episodes).
The orange-to-blue changes occurred at some point in 1985, while Johnny was announcing. The orange set was seen at least twice on the Kennedy series.
I'm not sure if that woulda been the reason as much as them grieving Johnny's loss, to where they woulda not felt in the Christmas spirit enough to wanna do a series of shows like that so soon after his passing. That'd be my assumption anyway, but that may be wrong.
The music was added at some point in between the recording of the December 21, 1984 episode and the end of the March 1985 tapings (as it can be heard in very early Tom Kennedy-hosted episodes).
The orange-to-blue changes occurred at some point in 1985, while Johnny was announcing. The orange set was seen at least twice on the Kennedy series.
I wonder if they added it in just as the Nighttime series began, just because of it. I could see that.
Pricefan, that is a possibility. Of course the mid 80s featured a ton of changes, at least a half-dozen made during the time nighttime PIR taped/aired. Speaking of which, I wonder if GuyWithFace or someone else knows when the CBS curtains were changed from brown to maroon. That was definitely done while Johnny was announcing but I can't pinpoint the exact date (between late 1984 and likely early 1985)
Kennedy's version did several things different than theFTFY.realdaytime version
Of course the mid 80s featured a ton of changes, at least a half-dozen made during the time nighttime PIR taped/aired.At least eight Pricing Games that were played on the Kennedy series were physically altered in some form or fashion while that version was in production -- Danger Price, Golden Road, Grocery Game, Most Expensive, Pick a Pair, Range Game, Safe Crackers, and Switcheroo. Another, Grand Game, received its "Ten Thousand" and "Ten Thousand Dollars" graphics during this period.
Speaking of which, I wonder if GuyWithFace [...] knows when the CBS curtains were changed from brown to maroon. That was definitely done while Johnny was announcing but I can't pinpoint the exact date (between late 1984 and likely early 1985)I do not know that, sorry.
Speaking of changes......what prompted the Purple border around CR before and into Tom's run for a bit? Anyone know?
FTFY.
At least eight Pricing Games that were played on the Kennedy series were physically altered in some form or fashion while that version was in production -- Danger Price, Golden Road, Grocery Game, Most Expensive, Pick a Pair, Range Game, Safe Crackers, and Switcheroo. Another, Grand Game, received its "Ten Thousand" and "Ten Thousand Dollars" graphics during this period.
Speaking of the FAQ:
Pricefan, that is a possibility. Of course the mid 80s featured a ton of changes, at least a half-dozen made during the time nighttime PIR taped/aired. Speaking of which, I wonder if GuyWithFace or someone else knows when the CBS curtains were changed from brown to maroon. That was definitely done while Johnny was announcing but I can't pinpoint the exact date (between late 1984 and likely early 1985)
A couple programming notes of interest: The 100-episode cycle is about to end. I'm optimistic that they'll proceed with 4792D (and if they do, we'll get the 12th Season Premiere by Monday). However, I won't be surprised at all if we're getting 4581D again at 2:00 PM EST. No mention was made from Pluto.
What Pluto did say was related to Christmas. From their Twitter Feed & their Facebook page, on Christmas Day, Pluto is airing shows from 1982. That's been confirmed. It'll be December 17 and 20-24
Plus Card Game.Card Game was not played on the Kennedy series. (The full list of Pricing Games is present here (http://www.golden-road.net/gr_faq/index.php?title=General_Questions#Which_pricing_games_were_played_on_the_Kennedy_version.3F).)
*Card Game is tedious no matter how its played but seems to be worse with no opening bid, no "any value" aces, and a limited big deck.
Ten Chances isn’t as fun when so many contestants don’t realize the prices end in zero!
Card Game relies far more on luck with a $200 range. With so many face cards in the deck, it’s easy to go over, and just as easy to play too cautiously and stop on a low bid. Still, I enjoy it.
I think Deluxe Dice Game comes in early 83. Regular Dice Game in 1982-83 is just not as fun as the late 70s and the five digit variety. The first digit is a gimme (a 6), if the second digit is lower than 5 or 6, it’s an incredibly cheap car.
I don’t recall It’s Optional being lost much.
I wonder if the goal would've been $250 away from the price of the more expensive car if the game was active today (just another failed attempt at a joke, sorry!). Anyway, it was a little surprising to see they game disappear, but as mentioned, it made sense for its retirement. I guess it would've been more suited as a game for something other than two cars (with a name change for the pricing game). I always loved It's Optional, but times change and things are different.
For the record, that game was 27-18
Here's an interesting idea just off the top of my head.....what if you made the game be like for 5 prizes, the last of which was a car, and the game was the same except you used the prices of the 4 smaller prizes as the options, being able to choose up to 3 to reach the target window for that day. Ie: the combined total of the 4 lesser prizes in a playing could total $12,000 and the car totaled $24,000, and you could have a target window of $19,000-$22,000 you'd have to hit or stay within in order to win all 5. Could be an interesting way to revamp it and make it less of a crapshoot or budget buster due to being too easy. Thoughts anyone?That entirely misses the point of the game, which was to offer two cars at once (in which case, I suppose you could call Triple Play a logical successor).
That entirely misses the point of the game, which was to offer two cars at once (in which case, I suppose you could call Triple Play a logical successor).
these contestants are pretty awesome! Especially Beverly, who might be the nicest contestant I've ever seen. Maybe one of the nicest people on Planet Earth. Such a good sport and at least for the most part, way energetic and was smiling throughout her appearances. Such positive energy! Her showcase bid was not good at all, but that's pretty much the only error she made.
I also see Hurdles apparently got retired in 1983. I'm guessing that happened because it just didn't make for as exciting a visual as mountain climber. The pacing is kind of dull because you have to choose all your prices upfront and then wait until the end to watch the entire race.
At the end of this season, there were a number of games that operated on mechanical controls that would frequently fail, you can see it happen frequently here with Squeeze Play. Apparently Bob finally pitched a fit and demanded that these games be made manual or get rid of them, and I guess there was no simple way to make Hurdles operate manually, so it got the axe.
I also see Hurdles apparently got retired in 1983. I'm guessing that happened because it just didn't make for as exciting a visual as mountain climber. The pacing is kind of dull because you have to choose all your prices upfront and then wait until the end to watch the entire race.
I'd recommend they find enough "fur-less" episodes featuring Anitra and market it as a "Best of Anitra" block.Yes, I’d much enjoy seeing 1970s episodes in the mix. The 1974-76 years were the show’s finest in my view.
Any hope of them going through the earlier stuff and eliminating the fur episodes? Lots more of Johnny and Holly back there.
I like the skits where the models actually get to talk! I never knew that was a thing. :-DThat and the occasional chat with Bob after a quickie game (One Right Price, Most Expensive, etc.). It definitely shows the personality of all three of them. I know that in the last few years (especially that they started miking the models), it has come back in a different form, not so much the skit sense.
Bob reciting his childhood address on air
Over the past couple of weeks, I've finally had some time to enjoy the channel. I echo all of the good things said about it -- the video quality is amazing, and I love that everything that can be left in is being left in. The only bad thing is that I'd estimate I've watched about one-fourth of the available episodes, but I'm already at the point where when I check out the channel, I frequently hit an episode I've already seen, which makes me leave.
The reason it keeps happening, I assume, is because when I do check out the channel, it's at about the same time in the morning on any given day. Because the channel is rotating through 100 episodes, at 24 episodes per day, that means the same episodes will keep airing in approximately the same time slots every time. If the channel eventually adds more episodes to the rotation, I hope it's in a quantity that's less close to being a multiple of 24.
I never realized the background didn’t change all at once in 1982.
I don't really know if this should go here or another thread, but since it was seen on the Pluto run, here goes.
It's Optional: there is at least one playing, maybe a second, where the contestant got options (in the playing I saw it was 2 of 3) matched exactly right to the loaded car. Is it safe to assume those were the options that made the more expensive car?
Is there information from Pluto TV as to how many times they will repeat the 100 episode cycle? I am loving this system! It is a pleasure to see contestants from different diversities and personalities being called to "Come on Down." My favorite Price is Right years were 1975- 1985. After Johnny passed away, there was some mild tarnish, as this legend was irreplaceable! Rod was very good, but more of a comical ham in later years. Johnny was like fine wine. He was so good when he started and just got better with time.
Does Pluto TV put in new commercials in their TPIR reruns, just curious. I know the commercial breaks in the studio master copies of TPIR after 1975 were pretty much just blank spaces, although some studio masters of TPIR from 9/4/72 to 1975 do contain their original commercials, including the 9/4/72 studio master.
However, as of right now, I have the option to go to YouTube to catch what's on there. I do that every-so-often, but not every hour of every day of every week. Pre Barker era, that's been the best option for me, and I can't thank TPTB at CBS, Fremantle, the show itself, and whomever else that they've allowed it. It'll be sad when that changes, but I'm thankful that they've okay'd it for the past several years up to this point
You mean Pre-Carey era right? I'd think so lol.
Even if there was a new batch coming, it might not be as large as the first 100, perhaps it may only be 50-60 episodes at most and on average maybe just 25 or so.
Do we have any reason at all to think that would be the case?
[rambling demand snipped]Ian Frame, is that you?
Here are some points I don't approve of the fur ban of episodes from the past
1. You can't change the past
2. We won't be able to see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown
3. They could put a censor bar over the coat and bleep out the description
It might be awhile but I can't wait for late 1987 when bob's hair went grey and the last playings of 4 digit dice game last days of the old one right price set. I also can't wait to see any cliffhangers playing from season 18 because I think that's the last season with the original mountain climber but I'm not sure
3. They could put a censor bar over the coat and bleep out the descriptionThey're not going to do anymore work than they need to just to please a small amount of viewers that are itching to see episodes from before the fur ban. Either they will eventually decide to air them without edits like that or they won't.
If my memory is correct, GSN’s run stopped in early 1984. I know they aired various later episodes over the years.that is why I can't wait to see those because most of those are in grey background onthe calendar
Here are some points I don't approve of the fur ban of episodes from the past
1. You can't change the past
2. We won't be able to see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown
3. They could put a censor bar over the coat and bleep out the description
But it was mentioned that when Pluto TV did their promotional run for TPIR that a few episodes slipped through the cracks and had furs as prizes. (Before the 100 episodes at a time was established.) If this is correct, do we know for reference, what year the episodes were from?
My reason is much more simple and direct: For every episode that included a game/Showcase played for a fur, there were contestants – including the ones who played for the fur – who competed on the show.
Plain and simple.
Being on "Price," meeting Bob Barker/Johnny Olson/the Beauties/etc. is/was a highlight of their lives, and while they may have a videotaped record of their show, more than likely they never have been able to watch their show again other than the time it originally aired or, possibly, if it were rerun during the summer months. Remember that until the late 1980s, home recording technology was a very expensive luxury, and you don't have to necessarily go to existing "Price" (or other era game shows) episodes from the late 1970s/early 1980s – where VCRs were sometmes priced at $1,500; a 1978 clip of the "High Rollers" pilot had a VCR priced at $2,400(!) – to see how expensive a VCR was then; and then, videotapes do degrade or become lost over time.
Also, if the contestants who appeared on these "Price" episodes have since passed away, their descendants haven't gotten a chance to see their mom or dad, grandma or grandpa, aunt or uncle, etc. and watch a special memory. What a story they could share and enjoy, without them being there, and a chance to see them, hear their voices and remember them as they were once again.
Simply put, by not airing "fur" episodes, not only does it change the record, but this denies contestants (and their families and friends) who were on these shows a chance to see themselves once again, from 40-plus years ago, competing on one of America's all-time great game shows.
Brian
It would be disrespectful if they started airing fur episodes just because Bob is no longer living after he dies. I still think either they will not air anything from before the ban or they will eventually air earlier episodes but only ones without furs. The only exception I could see is if they were to air the premiere episode.
I get the whole disrespectful thing, but this is TV history, and it’s important. It would be an absolute travesty if 10+ years of TPIR history disappeared into the ether and gathered dust in the Freemantle archives for all eternity. I get Bob’s position, but he is absolutely wrong here. Ignoring all those episodes isnt going to bring back all those miks, weasels, and foxes back. We can accept it as being wrong, while also not pretending it didn’t happen. Just like the old lady who requests to have her cat euthanized to be buried with her when she dies, sometimes it’s ok to ignore a persons wishes when they are short sighted and wrong.because of this we can't see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown if I wanted to buy a episode with a fur from freemantle I'll cite this episode might have a fur and can't be reran on tv and your the only one I can turn to
[things I want and will never get]Jesus, dude.
Does Pluto TV put in new commercials in their TPIR reruns, just curious. I know the commercial breaks in the studio master copies of TPIR after 1975 were pretty much just blank spaces, although some studio masters of TPIR from 9/4/72 to 1975 do contain their original commercials, including the 9/4/72 studio master.There was a time when commercials were edited directly onto the air two-inch quadruplex videotapes. This might explain why copies of some "studio master" episodes in circulation contain original commercials. By the mid- or late 1970s, CBS played the spots outboard on Ampex ACR-25 VTRs.
I wonder how long it takes for Pluto TV to digitize a set of Price Is Right Barker-era episodes (100 at a time) and prepare them for viewing? Do they have to do the clean-up and restorations? Or has CBS/Fremantle already done that before giving them to Pluto TV?The "digitizing" occurred during the early 1990s when Goodson Productions hired CBS to archive its library of shows from two-inch and one-inch videotape formats to Digital Betacam videotapes. Digital Betacam is a standard definition, high quality tape format that was popular in professional television at the time. To present shows from these tapes on the Internet (Pluto TV), the digital content on them has to be transcoded to computer files. I am unsure how much time and effort are necessary for this step, but it is not inconsequential. Each Digital Betacam tape would need to be played in real time on a deck that its connected with a signal transcoder and computer. And before the content could be shown, someone would need to screen it, make any needed trims or edits, and mark the in and out points of each segment.
because of this we can't see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown if I wanted to buy a episode with a fur from freemantle I'll cite this episode might have a fur and can't be reran on tv and your the only one I can turn to
because of this we can't see finish line shower game telephone game early playings of cliffhangers punch a bunch penny ante and pre green section showcase showdown if I wanted to buy a episode with a fur from freemantle I'll cite this episode might have a fur and can't be reran on tv and your the only one I can turn to
My reason is much more simple and direct: For every episode that included a game/Showcase played for a fur, there were contestants – including the ones who played for the fur – who competed on the show.
Plain and simple.
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Brian
Great to hear about the new-for-Pluto eps coming up! Bimonthly seems like a good pace to add new episodes into the rotation, averaging just under two per day. I'm not sure how reruns will take place after this next batch has been posted, but since BUZZR tends to loop back to the previous cycle after the current one prior to any new leases. Basically looping the entire season will take just over eight days, so that leaves around four cycles after the final new episodes will be posted. It will be nice to see #retrotime on Discord hopping with activity again.
Still, this will take us up to the Season 13 premiere provided that we pick up where we left off and don't skip any episodes or even add a skipped episode. Get ready for the new music cues, Deluxe Dice Game, the revised Double Prices/One Right Price/Take Two sets, the revised Five Price Tags/Temptation podiums, as well as the first playings of Master Key and possibly The Phone Home Game, as well as the final playings of It's Optional and Hurdles.
The Facebook announcement said they're starting the new ones at 10 AM ET which is a little odd in that the last 4 episodes of the current 100-episode cycle would've aired at 10, 11, 12 and 1 that day. Those four episodes originally aired starting February 1st, 1983, so I wonder if their announcement was confused and counted all the February episodes airing that day as new-to-Pluto episodes. If so, there is a slight chance the new episodes actually start at 2 PM ET that day.
On Tuesday, 11 AM was 4643 and 12 PM was 4644, which means two episodes were skipped between 4602 and 4643.
And about time they will finally release a batch of new episodes (even though it will be 30), that should take it barring no skips to 4851D (as well as fill in the gray shading of some of the episodes).I'm curious as to how accurate the non-gray shaded line-ups matched up to the actual episode airings on Pluto TV. Were there any errors or were all line-ups we had correct with what was posted on the calendar?
Actually it was just one (4625). You might be factoring in 4633, which was skipped outright within the regular cycle.
As of 1 AM Eastern on 01/27/2021, they're airing 4673. Currently, with the announcement of new episodes starting at 10 AM Eastern on 02/02/2021, I'm not sure what to expect from 3 AM to 10 AM next Tuesday. I was able to figure out that if they continued skipping the episodes from Saturday's Marathon within the current cycle, they'll loop back to the beginning on Thursday at 11 PM. From there if they aired their first 100-episode cycle without any skips that would result in 4791 airing at 2 AM on 02/02.
By 2 AM on 01/27 there are still 7 episodes left from Saturday's Marathon that might get skipped. However, if they decide not to skip those, it will result in the first 100-episode cycle ending within the 9 AM hour on February 2nd, just in time for the next 30 to start at 10 AM EST. Furthermore, if they end up airing episodes 4701, 4722, 4743, 4751, 4753, 4755, and 4781, then at 6 AM EST on Friday, we should loop back to 4581 one last time.
I don't know or think they air those seven, and if they don't, I guess there will be 7 hours to figure out before they get to the Drunken Models Episode
That being said, I still love watching these old episodes. I continue to be impressed with the number of jukeboxes, player pianos, and organs that show up as prizes. And dry sink stereos (a thing I had never heard of).
I don't know or think they air those seven, and if they don't, I guess there will be 7 hours to figure out before they get to the Drunken Models Episode
Here’s a question that’s been dogging me and it was triggered by an episode aired on Pluto today:
That episide’s Golden Road playing was for a Chrysler LeVaron Mark Cross convertible, which was not won (due to the contestant losing on the second prize, a desk). On at least one other episode, I believe it was played for (also in Golden Road) and lost, also on the second prize, and it was offered (but not won) in a Showcase.
So ... does someone know whether the Chrysler LeBaron convertible was ever won in any episode it was played for but perhaps has yet to air. (For instance, maybe Hole In One.)
I just want to know how much it cost. I’m sure at least $15,000 (in 1983 dollars, natch).
Now that we’ve looped back to the start of season 11 after I spent the last two days watching the 30 additional eps, it’s becoming apparent to me Bob aged considerably over the course of S11. I know that we’re less than a year past Dorothy Jo’s passing at the start of 11. I wonder if that had a large impact.Probably the largest impact, out of all the pre-90s events that happened with the show and those connected to it.
Why is Pluto inserting commercial breaks at random? They didn't do this with the first 100 episodes.They had a commercial break right in the middle of Penny Ante in the 5:00 PM Central time episode today.
Shame since that episode is shaded in gray on the pricing game calendar. Is that one unconfirmed because GSN never aired it, either?
I don't have a complete list of every show GSN did/didn't air but have semi-complete notes of the period and it's my understanding that 4853D was skipped by GSN as well back in the 90s. Barring an original broadcast turning up, I would consider it extremely unlikely we ever see that episode.
when you factor in the final 10, which includes the last two episodes of the CBS Soaps Special
Were any episodes skipped in the new batch? 4925D is gray on the calendar.
Small spoiler: According to Chelsea, there's actually only one more of these -- CBS only had four soaps, so Friday was just a normal episode.
Hopefully April Fool's could air as a special one-off around April Fool's itself right before the next batch of episodes are dropped.
In the older Pluto episodes, what was the song usually used during jukebox copies that was very saxophone heavy? I know they eventually switched to Hot Stuff by Donna Summer and We Are Family by Sister Sledge, but what was used before those songs, assuming that was also a "real" song?
Then he rants about it AGAIN before SCSD2 and throws in that they're about to have trouble with Dice Game too since the first digit can't start with more than a 6 and even some cheaper cars are creeping ever closer to $6000.
I'm literally months behind but have them all saved and have been slowly going through, and something out of 4695D reallycaught my notice: After Card Game is a loss again because the contestant stopped way too soon, Bob goes on a rant about contestants stopping too early because cars are getting more expensive and his remarks are clearly directed to the show's brass.
Then he rants about it AGAIN before SCSD2 and throws in that they're about to have trouble with Dice Game too since the first digit can't start with more than a 6 and even some cheaper cars are creeping ever closer to $6000.
And it's only shortly after this that we start getting the phasing in of the changes to accommodate 5 digit/more expensive cars - starting with the exact two games Bob rants about in this episode. New Card Game happens in mid-March; Deluxe Dice Game happens in April. Watching the season and this era in a megabinge, it's interesting how Bob's soapbox in this show foreshadows/suggests the very changes that happen within months - and at a time before he was even remotely as heavily involved in the show's production.
To that end, it also seemed Barker was a poor sport when contestants lost the Race Game (and sometimes, Take Two) when sports tickets were offered, saying "they don't get it" ... referring to the price structure and that more games might logically mean higher prices and the contestants seeming to not catch on. That's just one example from shows now being seen on Pluto but there's I'm sure plenty of others.
Brian
Then he rants about it AGAIN before SCSD2 and throws in that they're about to have trouble with Dice Game too since the first digit can't start with more than a 6 and even some cheaper cars are creeping ever closer to $6000.And yet, somehow, the show would manage to continue using the 4-digit version of Dice Game all the way through to the January 8, 1988 episode.
And yet, somehow, the show would manage to continue using the 4-digit version of Dice Game all the way through to the January 8, 1988 episode.
I'd like to know the price of the car in that final 4 digit Dice Game playing....my guess is it probably was a Geo Metro or something along those lines.
Another side effect about the introduction of Deluxe Dice Game that I've pointed out outside of this forum is that it allowed for Golden Road to start offering grand prizes in the mid-high $10K range based upon the final three playings of the season. 4834D offered a mediocre Chrysler LeBaron coupe at barely over $10K, and as you know a rather unimpressive Cadillac Cimarron was also offered earlier in the season.
Remember in some ways, too, Bob is like us now. He was there for every show. When you offer the same prizes over and over again you get to know the prices.
There's also times when wins or losses are [super] obvious and Bob knew how to play it up.
I hope it is just that with a signal issue. Watching 4944 on my phone small screen, and I do see some jumps in scene.
Also, does Bob know where the car cards are in Money Game? He built up suspense with 17 being the last number, before all money cards were filled and 17 was the back of the car!
I believe Bob knew where the ball was because he could feel it when he was moving the shells around at the beginning of the game. He made a few comments to that effect on the Pluto episodes we've seen - once stating that the producers has lost track of where the ball was but he knew where it was, and once where he asked the audience if they'd seen where the ball was because he had done that before shuffling them around.
Maybe they learned from Christmas shows with that? Ie: Instead of airing it well before the day as they did with those initially, they realized it's better to hold it off till closer to/on it? Could see that.
A couple of notes to the timeline that should be added:
At that point, aside from a single Christmas '84 episode, GSN never aired anything from the daytime run between 2/1984 to 9/1986 -- giving Pluto a solid two and a half years of reruns that haven't been seen since original broadcast. Cycle 4 would also offer an interesting dilemma - what to do with 5212D, a half hour episode.
That's not exactly true. I have a few episodes that they shows from this range - most of them were from WinTV.
I stand absolutely corrected. Thumbed through a few collections and what I said holds true for episodes outside of Win TV (Although at least a couple other shows appear to have turned up during that weird phase in '96 when the show first started popping up in random slots), so GSN *did* go there, but not routinely. (compared to 1996-98 when they were running a different season daily and 1998-00 when they just burned through 9/82 to 2/84 in order)
Very creative editing at two points on 4981D to cover up the PHG plugs. John’s bumper is split in two and Bob just plugs the game.
Broken Dice Game on the same show plays out interestingly. Doesn’t really effect the outcome of the game (forced 6 first digit, two 6 rolls on 2/3) even though it should have given the contestant an advantage over the normal rules.
It seems to me that Take Two was the only PG in which Bob received any sort of signal as to the correct answer. Am I missing any others?
That's not exactly true. I have a few episodes that they shows from this range - most of them were from WinTV.
They ran them in different slots besides the 8am and 4pm Win TV slots? I wasn't aware of that.
One oddity about that...at least one recollection states that a syndicated episode aired on one of those days, but no one appears to have had the VCR rolling for it.
The playing of Dice Game following the "Broken" playing on the second show of S12 still featured two of the numbers lighting up in the wrong places, with one of them not working in its proper position. This was the second playing of five digit Deluxe Dice.
A syndicated episode from the 70's or 80's? And for that matter which host? I know much of Kennedy's one year run if not all of it aired on the network. So I assume it may have been the former?
If this is correct, it was a 1978 episode, which GSN aired on Oct. 28, 1996. Imad Khuri caught the tail end of it, too late to tape it. He never did find a copy, unfortunately.
Here's the post where Imad is asking for it: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.tv.game-shows/c/MQhEmcMgCsE/m/5_uIgY_KkeYJ
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Price did a half hour episode in 1978 (2714D, OAD 3/2/1978) that coincides with a part of the run that GSN otherwise DID air in 1996-98, and all available info I have says GSN never touched the syndicated run. (As for why: Too many furs, even compared to the daytime show, to make it worth airing)
I can't say definitively that it wasn't a syndicated episode, but I would consider it 999999999% more likely that this is the episode in question. And info was so sufficiently less available at the time that "a half hour Price episode dated to 1978" could absolutely pass off as being a nighttime show
4 lineups found in S1-49 for any RETIRED game (x4,5,6), played in any slot
S AIRDATE PG1 PG2 PG3 PG4 PG5 PG6
5864D 14 Oct 31 1985 Give or Keep (^) On the Nose (^) Poker Game (^) Bump (^) 3 Strikes (^) Penny Ante (^)
6201D 15 Sep 29 1986 Give or Keep Most Expensive (T) Any Number Poker Game Add 'em Up Penny Ante
6882D 16 May 10 1988 Shell Game Poker Game Add 'em Up Bump 3 Strikes Penny Ante
8184D 20 Nov 14 1991 Super Ball!! (car) Double Prices Credit Card Bump $uper $aver Dice Game
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Price did a half hour episode in 1978 (2714D, OAD 3/2/1978) that coincides with a part of the run that GSN otherwise DID air in 1996-98, and all available info I have says GSN never touched the syndicated run. (As for why: Too many furs, even compared to the daytime show, to make it worth airing)
I can't say definitively that it wasn't a syndicated episode, but I would consider it 999999999% more likely that this is the episode in question. And info was so sufficiently less available at the time that "a half hour Price episode dated to 1978" could absolutely pass off as being a nighttime show
One reason I know the said episode from 1978 was nighttime was because there was a “contestants not appearing on stage” segment during the end credits.
How does that tell us it wasn't a daytime show? It's not like we have any other half-hour episodes from that era to compare it to.
Something that would clinch it being a nighttime show... was there any mention of Viacom in the credit roll?
Something that would clinch it being a nighttime show... was there any mention of Viacom in the credit roll?
I second looking for this, that's the biggest giveaway.
I've encountered references to Viacom's animated logo at the time (that zooming purple V with the bad synthesizer) being on syndie Price but haven't found any actual evidence of that yet.
Ok I'm annoyed. I tried to go the live channel directly for first time in a while, just to see what was on it/watch a little bit to kill some time, and for some reason, Pluto each time I try redirects me to the featured channel (which right now is Paramount + ), makes getting to the stream a major pain in the ass. Who thought doing this was a good idea? Anyone else getting this? I assume it's not just me.
Not just you, happens to me all the time! Not a fan of it at all.