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The TALK Is Right / Re: How about bringing back some of the older music cues...
« Last post by ThomHuge on September 12, 2019, 10:52:45 AM »
I'm not being a smart ass.  My point is that the producers are going to do what they want, when they want.  We can speculate the reasons why, but if some "big-wig" wants throw-back music cues, I doubt that factors like being in stereo are really going to stop them.  Perfectly good prize music is just sitting on a shelf and it wouldn't hurt the feel of this 47 year old show to throw it in once in a while.

So...you're complaining that all this is speculative...when you're the one who started the speculation in question. If you're not being a smartass, the list doesn't get any more pleasant from there.

BTW... Have you guys noticed how ABC's Card Sharks is using a remixed version of the 1970's theme song?

Yes. We noticed it the same night that we noticed that ABC's Press Your Luck is using a remixed version of the 1980s theme.

I haven't heard Card Sharks' updated theme, but if it's anything like PYL's, it's an example of a modern remix done right. I have heard Pyramid's, and it sounds pretty good too. Price's main theme and Walking are also examples of modern remixes done right.

The remixed prize cues are examples of modern remixes done wrong. (VERY wrong in my opinion.) Say what you will about the library music...it sounds very cheap, and very bland, but it isn't grating like the remixes were/are. If it came down to a choice between more modern remixes done wrong, or library music that I can tolerate, it's not a hard choice.
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The TALK Is Right / Re: How about bringing back some of the older music cues...
« Last post by Drew72 on September 12, 2019, 10:38:31 AM »
Don't be a smartass. A stinger that's heard for five seconds once in a while when they play Grand Game isn't the same as music that's heard every act, and for a lot longer each time at that.

I'm not being a smart ass.  My point is that the producers are going to do what they want, when they want.  We can speculate the reasons why, but if some "big-wig" wants throw-back music cues, I doubt that factors like being in stereo are really going to stop them.  Perfectly good prize music is just sitting on a shelf and it wouldn't hurt the feel of this 47 year old show to throw it in once in a while.

BTW... Have you guys noticed how ABC's Card Sharks is using a remixed version of the 1970's theme song?
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The TALK Is Right / Re: How about bringing back some of the older music cues...
« Last post by Casey on September 12, 2019, 10:05:49 AM »
I suspect the vast majority of the viewers donít pay much, if any, attention to what music is being played behind the prize descriptions.  Given that, if the current library music is cheaper than the old stuff, thatís probably the primary reason. 

I assure you almost no one knows that the intro to Grand Game is the final 6 measures of the Family Feud theme.
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The TALK Is Right / Re: How about bringing back some of the older music cues...
« Last post by ThomHuge on September 12, 2019, 10:04:10 AM »
Speaking of that... how is it that a 44 year old cue can still be used to introduce a game?  Wouldn't that screw up the "feel" of the modern, current show in 2019?

I think not.

Don't be a smartass. A stinger that's heard for five seconds once in a while when they play Grand Game isn't the same as music that's heard every act, and for a lot longer each time at that.
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The TALK Is Right / Re: How about bringing back some of the older music cues...
« Last post by Drew72 on September 12, 2019, 09:56:18 AM »
While licensing fees could be what keeps Fremantle from reintroducing older cues, there is also the cost of having them all remastered from mono to stereo.

They wouldn't necessarily have to do that.  They use the tail end of the 1975 version of The Feud every time the Grand Game is played.  It's not in stereo. 

Speaking of that... how is it that a 44 year old cue can still be used to introduce a game?  Wouldn't that screw up the "feel" of the modern, current show in 2019?

I think not.
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Host Your Own! / Re: Teddy's TPIR: Episode 26/The Return! (PG3)
« Last post by tpir04 on September 12, 2019, 09:31:07 AM »
My favorite game. Oh joy. I just HAD to pick this IUFB to win, didn't I?  :roll:

For what it's worth, I'll say 29.
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The TALK Is Right / Re: How about bringing back some of the older music cues...
« Last post by GobGlom on September 12, 2019, 09:29:31 AM »
While licensing fees could be what keeps Fremantle from reintroducing older cues, there is also the cost of having them all remastered from mono to stereo.
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The TALK Is Right / Re: How about bringing back some of the older music cues...
« Last post by PayingTheRent on September 12, 2019, 08:48:53 AM »
I have a hard time buying into the notion that licensing the old cues would be too cost prohibitive. 

For one, unless Fremantle produced the current library in-house, there are almost certainly recurring licensing fees going to the rights holder.

Second, the majority of old cues were produced specifically for Price.  They have very little use or value for any other show or production, and for that reason, Price should have the upper hand in any negotiating scenario.  Either the library can remain on the shelf with no money being made at all, or Price can use it for a reasonable rate.  Some money seems better than no money at all. 🤷🏻‍♂️

(If nothing else, Fremantle could just straight up purchase the library, if the option to do so is actually feasible.)

Also, I still maintain the old cues would work today, and my argument is only strengthened by the current nostalgia wave, both in television and across society in general.  We have old game shows that have been resurrected, shows like 90210 back on the air ó all the way to Pizza Hut bringing back their classic logo!

The show has nothing to lose, either.  No one is going to stop watching because the show plays Splendido during the Showcases.  They might tune in, however, for the nostalgic throwback, and I point to all of the comments on Priceís social media after the throwback episode aired a couple years back as proof that many people ó not just us LFATs ó want to hear the old cues again.

If fans want it, I donít see the harm in trying.  If the reaction isnít as positive as desired, then discontinue use. 🤔
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The TALK Is Right / Re: How about bringing back some of the older music cues...
« Last post by ThomHuge on September 12, 2019, 07:15:01 AM »
They use a remixed version of the original theme song.  They use a remixed version of Walking for the "come on down" segments.  I think remixed versions of prize cues would fit in just fine. I'm not sure about licensing costs, but I imagine the bland ones they use aren't free.  I feel like using some variation of older cues would mean a lot to us LFATs and could be done tastefully to match the current feel of the show.

The main theme and Walking aren't in quite the same category as the prize cues though. And I'm not at all a fan of the remixed versions of the old cues they're using--if anything they sound worse than the originals. I agree using the old cues would mean a lot to us LFaTs, but diehards like us aren't their target audience, so that doesn't mean anything. (I still don't agree that the old prize cues go with the current feel of the show though. What they're using for music now fits with the aesthetic of 2019 television and with the general look and feel.)

As for library music not being free, remember, neither are the old cues, and I'll wager the library music they use now is a lot cheaper than Score's fees were. Remember, there are business concerns behind every creative decision they make. I'm sure they didn't stop using the old music
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Out In Left Field / Re: 2019 MLB Season
« Last post by Ccook on September 12, 2019, 02:29:55 AM »
Atlanta's magic number is eight as well. Braves P Chris Martin threw a perfect seventh inning vs. Philly last night. Nine pitches, nine strikes.

Got to love the Mets game last night. Nine runs on eleven hits on 9/11.
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