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Title: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: tpir04 on December 31, 2018, 05:08:55 PM
So we're in the final hours of 2018. In my opinion, it's been a bad, dare I say dismal, year for TPIR. I ask you, what would you like to see on TPIR in 2019? I'd like more wins on High Stakes Plinko and more appearances of Ten Chances.

Opinions?
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Joe on December 31, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
How about not having all of these extravagant incarnations of Plinko.  It has been a fan favorite for years and really doesn't need to have a high-stakes version every other time the producers would like to create a special show.  More appearances of Ten Chances would be great...more appearances of just about all the underplayed games really.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: gamesurf on December 31, 2018, 08:13:04 PM
Drew tweeted earlier today (https://twitter.com/DrewFromTV/status/1079829929812942849) about how frustrating it was to never see Big Money Plinko amount to anything exciting. Each time they offer a massive prize, next to nothing is won. And players with Plinko shirts never end up playing Plinko.

(Funnily enough, in the same thread, he mentioned if he could play any game, it would be Pay the Rent. Not that I would disagree, I'd be ecstatic to see Pay the Rent come up if I were to make it on stage. Easiest $10,000 I could ever make.)

I'd like to see more new quickies introduced. Gridlock and Hot Seat have shown a great deal of imagination with their set design, and I'd like to see that applied to simpler concepts we'd see more frequently.

In my opinion, it's been a bad, dare I say dismal, year for TPIR.

Strong disagree there--it's been as much fun as it's ever been. This was the year where I finally began watching semi-regularly again instead of once-in-a-while (although my schedule had a lot to do with that). Drew's better than ever, I'm seeing memorable moments every week, got to attend my first tapings and experience the magic firsthand--it's still the gold standard for game shows.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: ChrisJ812 on December 31, 2018, 08:29:48 PM
They need to bring back a few classics like Penny Ante, Super Saver, etc., Also play some of the games they dont play more regularly. Stop playing these hyped up Plinkos and Punch A Bunch cuz they are never won!!
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: JayC on December 31, 2018, 10:53:34 PM
Stop with the Plinko playings for a huge top prize. I think I'd rather they do something as a gimmick that would make a $50,000 win more likely, such as allowing the contestant to replace any slot on the board with another $10,000 slot for every chip they win. So at least then there'd be a win, with an asterisk of course.

Also, fix the new 3 Strikes. So far with the new hopper Drew's had to play policeman with preventing contestants from putting strike ball back in the hopper and he's had some trouble seeing the number on the ball when the contestant holds it. If they have to go back to the old bag and chips so be it.

Finally, make Stack the Deck a little more winnable by giving contestants a free number to eliminate before the pricing portion.

Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: b_masters8 on January 01, 2019, 03:49:04 AM
Stop playing these hyped up Plinkos and Punch A Bunch cuz they are never won!!

In the case of Plinko, not one chip on these inflated versions has hit the middle portion once-- we are on a long 0fer in that department! I mean, if they're going to make an inflated gimmick Plinko, it ought to have some excitement by having at least one chip get in the middle!
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: GameShowFan9001 on January 01, 2019, 04:00:32 AM
In the case of Plinko, not one chip on these inflated versions has hit the middle portion once-- we are on a long 0fer in that department! I mean, if they're going to make an inflated gimmick Plinko, it ought to have some excitement by having at least one chip get in the middle!

We've actually had at least 2 successful inflations of Plinko: $30,000 slot on October 10, 2016 (celebrating CBS being #1 for 30 years) and $35,000 slot last season when they first celebrated Plinko's 35th anniversary
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: b_masters8 on January 01, 2019, 06:40:34 AM
We've actually had at least 2 successful inflations of Plinko: $30,000 slot on October 10, 2016 (celebrating CBS being #1 for 30 years) and $35,000 slot last season when they first celebrated Plinko's 35th anniversary

Did not realize that-- those were quite a time back! Of course, since then, we've been 0fer.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: dmaingame on January 01, 2019, 01:50:20 PM
1.Reinstatement of Penny Ante, Buy or Sell, and $uper $aver.  I know More or Less is similar to Buy or Sell, but I liked the aspect of keeping any cash you had in the bank at the end of the game if you won.
2.Redesigning the 3 Strikes Bag.
3.Retiring Dice Game and That's Too Much!  These games both must have the lowest win/loss percentages of any active game.  If I were a contestant, I'd rather draw Bullseye '72 than either of these.
4.Retiring Pick-A-Number.  Watching a test pattern gets higher ratings than this game in my eyes.
5.More Ten Chances, Check Game, and Make Your Move. 
 
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: dmaingame on January 01, 2019, 01:53:54 PM
They need to bring back a few classics like Penny Ante, Super Saver, etc., Also play some of the games they dont play more regularly. Stop playing these hyped up Plinkos and Punch A Bunch cuz they are never won!!
What's the closest Plinko has ever been to having the max prize won?  I recall a playing in early 1991 (one of the last playings with the original color scheme) when a player hit the big money slot (then $5,000) 4 times and the $1,000 slot with the fifth chip.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: blozier2006 on January 01, 2019, 02:05:36 PM
What's the closest Plinko has ever been to having the max prize won?  I recall a playing in early 1991 (one of the last playings with the original color scheme) when a player hit the big money slot (then $5,000) 4 times and the $1,000 slot with the fifth chip.
That's the record.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: GameShowKid on January 01, 2019, 02:15:55 PM
Iíll submit my PIR wish again here (since you asked :) ), and itís the same one Iíve had for years. Iíd love to see 10 Chances played for a $51K - $98K auto.

Happy New Year everyone.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: ThatDonGuy on January 01, 2019, 03:12:42 PM
3.Retiring Dice Game and That's Too Much!  These games both must have the lowest win/loss percentages of any active game.  If I were a contestant, I'd rather draw Bullseye '72 than either of these.
Dice Game and That's Too Much! aren't won more often than Stack the Deck or Checkout?

Since this is a "wish list," here's mine: have a "retro" game, which is just a large monitor on which an older game (e.g. Mystery Price, or Super Saver, or Bump) can be played.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: blozier2006 on January 01, 2019, 03:38:36 PM
3.Retiring Dice Game and That's Too Much!  These games both must have the lowest win/loss percentages of any active game.  If I were a contestant, I'd rather draw Bullseye '72 than either of these.
Actually, Dice Game is nowhere close to worst win rate.

Out of all the active car games, here's what the numbers look like (from tpirstats.com, from Seasons 29-46 combined), in best-to-worst order...

Hole in One - 96-51 - 0.6531
Gridlock! - 8-7 - 0.5333
Dice Game - 179-184 - 0.4931
Ten Chances - 77-85 - 0.4753
Spelling Bee - 73-83 - 0.4679
Pocket Change - 79-91 - 0.4647
Money Game - 244-292 - 0.4552
Line 'em Up - 90-113 - 0.4433
Let 'em Roll - 99-128 - 0.4361
Master Key - 58-88 - 0.3973
One Away - 149-227 - 0.3963
Card Game - 92-151 - 0.3786
Any Number - 166-285 - 0.3681
Five Price Tags - 65-114 - 0.3631
Rat Race - 34-63 - 0.3505
Cover Up - 145-292 - 0.3318
3 Strikes - 27-64 - 0.2967
Lucky Seven - 152-365 - 0.2940
Pass the Buck - 63-167 - 0.2739
Pathfinder - 54-170 - 0.2411
That's Too Mych! - 111-355 - 0.2382
Switcheroo - 36-134 - 0.2118
More or Less - 25-110 - 0.1852
Golden Road - 16-76 - 0.1739
Stack the Deck - 25-130 - 0.1613
Triple Play - 13-70 - 0.1566
Temptation - 20-145 - 0.1212
Gas Money - 12-118 - 0.0923
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: gamesurf on January 01, 2019, 04:13:11 PM
Since this is a "wish list," here's mine: have a "retro" game, which is just a large monitor on which an older game (e.g. Mystery Price, or Super Saver, or Bump) can be played.

Those games werenít charming and memorable just because of their gameplay, but because of other intangibles in their set or presentation that couldnít be replicated on a monitor. Super Saver had the cool board with the trilons, Bump had the models winding up and the props actually flying around, and Mystery Price... never really was able to figure out how to be uniquely charming.

Itíd be like bringing back Penny Ante without its set. Nobody misses Penny Ante because of its gameplay. Its gameplay was lame. What made it so memorable was the inventive camerawork, the wubba, the chase lights, the giant penniesóthe whole shebang. If they canít make a hypothetical Penny Ante set thatís at least as cool as the original, Iím fine with it staying retired.

3.Retiring...That's Too Much!  These games both must have the lowest win/loss percentages of any active game.  If I were a contestant, I'd rather draw Bullseye '72 than either of these.
4.Retiring Pick-A-Number.  Watching a test pattern gets higher ratings than this game in my eyes.

Thatís Too Much exists to be a quick car game, and its retirement would mean more Gridlock/evil L7 setups/quickies played for cars. I wouldnít want to play it either, but it serves a needed purpose.

Same for Pick-A-Number, though I donít think we need to see it as frequently as we do.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Casey on January 01, 2019, 04:27:28 PM
3.Retiring Dice Game and That's Too Much!  These games both must have the lowest win/loss percentages of any active game.  If I were a contestant, I'd rather draw Bullseye '72 than either of these.
Seriously?  When I think of games people never win or I'd not want to play, Dice Game doesn't even enter the mix.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: tpir04 on January 01, 2019, 07:43:45 PM
I disagree with a lot of opinions about Big $$$ Plinko. I would like to see it every once in a while, but I'd like to see it won as well. (In my opinion, hitting the center at least twice constitutes a win.) Because, believe it or not, a $100k win on Plinko can't happen unless we give it a shot. At any rate, I believe twice a season is plenty, once for Big Money Week and again sometime in the season.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: someguy23475 on January 01, 2019, 08:51:08 PM
A new host.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Casey on January 01, 2019, 09:29:29 PM
Not bad - I figured we'd get that on the first page... 
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on January 01, 2019, 10:18:55 PM
A new host.

Excuse me?!
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: someguy23475 on January 01, 2019, 11:06:59 PM
Excuse me?!

Exactly what I said. I would like to see a better host. Drew Carey is one of the major reasons I do not watch the show anymore, and havenít for years.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Estil on January 01, 2019, 11:48:26 PM
A far less annoying announcer :P  There was nothing wrong with Rich Fields. :(
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: gamesurf on January 02, 2019, 12:01:38 AM
A new host.
Excuse me?!

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Edited just to reduce the size of the gif.

-- Adam
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 02, 2019, 01:29:56 AM
There was nothing wrong with Rich Fields. :(

There was.  Trust me.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Plinkoman on January 02, 2019, 02:16:44 AM
My 2019 wishes:

1. That Drew remains host for this year and many years to come.
2. That George remains announcer for this year and many years to come.
3. That the show remains just as fun and enjoyable as it did in 2018 (that is to say, I thought 2018 was an awesome year for the show).
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: b_masters8 on January 02, 2019, 03:40:57 AM
My 2019 wishes:

1. That Drew remains host for this year and many years to come.
2. That George remains announcer for this year and many years to come.
3. That the show remains just as fun and enjoyable as it did in 2018 (that is to say, I thought 2018 was an awesome year for the show).

My thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: tpir04 on January 02, 2019, 09:23:44 AM
Can we not get into Drew-bashing again? Time and time again we have had these arguments about Bob vs. Drew and whatever else. I think by now we understand everyone's opinions on the matter and shouldn't waste time repeating it.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: pannoni1 on January 02, 2019, 09:46:16 AM
I'd say of all the non-car/cash games, Grocery Game's win percentage remains quite abysmal, mostly due to far too many contestants going over on their first pick. Raising the win range to $20-$22 in 2016 was helpful in terms of usually resulting in a win for those who knew proper strategy, but I'd say raise it to $40-$42 since grocery items used are quite expensive nowadays. $7 in 1972 is around $45 today. Bullseye's target range is also due for a raise as its been 30 years now since the current values were introduced ($4, $8, $12, $16, $20, $24 would be my target values).

I'd keep the redesigned 3 Strikes bag, but I'd just use the classic chips due to the issues presented.

Temptation should lower the ratio between car price and gifts offered, since far too many bailouts are being used.

As far as Pick-a-Number, it's a necessary evil as a quickie, but like Double Prices recently, needs a good touch-up with set.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: ChrisJ812 on January 02, 2019, 01:32:36 PM
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3.Retiring Dice Game and That's Too Much!  These games both must have the lowest win/loss percentages of any active game.

I not with u on Dice Game! Dice Game has been more winnable lately! They wont retire TTM! It forces too many losses and is used for budget purposes. Also its being won more lately.

EDITED by Steve to sorta-kinda fix quoting.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: DYC on January 02, 2019, 01:57:21 PM
Letís see Hurdles triumphant return after 25 years.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: whowouldeverhurtawhammy on January 02, 2019, 09:33:25 PM
Can we not get into Drew-bashing again? Time and time again we have had these arguments about Bob vs. Drew and whatever else. I think by now we understand everyone's opinions on the matter and shouldn't waste time repeating it.

Agreed.

Going back to the subject at hand, while it involves asking for something that won't happen (but what the heck), however, I would like to see another Million Dollar Spectacular.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: tpir2002 on January 02, 2019, 09:54:58 PM
Better Big Money Week than this seasons. Big Money Week for years has always offered " $4 million " each week each season.
 
How about increase it to $10 million for that week?? My ideas

In addition to giving cash equivalent to each game.

Plinko played for $1,000,000,  Punch A Bunch played for $500,000, Pay The Rent for $1,000,000, Grand Game played for $250,000,
plus have some luxury cars pop up. Like a Porsche, Lexus, or an Audi.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: JayC on January 02, 2019, 10:32:38 PM
They already play Plinko for $1,000,000 on Big Money Week.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Estil on January 02, 2019, 10:59:15 PM
There was.  Trust me.

What exactly?  I thought the only reason he got fired was stupid office politics or something...
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: dmaingame on January 03, 2019, 12:58:21 AM
Those games werenít charming and memorable just because of their gameplay, but because of other intangibles in their set or presentation that couldnít be replicated on a monitor. Super Saver had the cool board with the trilons, Bump had the models winding up and the props actually flying around, and Mystery Price... never really was able to figure out how to be uniquely charming.

Itíd be like bringing back Penny Ante without its set. Nobody misses Penny Ante because of its gameplay. Its gameplay was lame. What made it so memorable was the inventive camerawork, the wubba, the chase lights, the giant penniesóthe whole shebang. If they canít make a hypothetical Penny Ante set thatís at least as cool as the original, Iím fine with it staying retired.

Thatís Too Much exists to be a quick car game, and its retirement would mean more Gridlock/evil L7 setups/quickies played for cars. I wouldnít want to play it either, but it serves a needed purpose.

Same for Pick-A-Number, though I donít think we need to see it as frequently as we do.

We won't see a truly evil Lucky $even setup until zeroes start popping up in the prices.  I don't recall there ever being a zero in my memory of L7 (which goes back to about 1986)
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 03, 2019, 03:57:01 AM
What exactly?  I thought the only reason he got fired was stupid office politics or something...

I suppose that's true in the sense that Rich Fields was stupid and what could loosely be called "office politics" were involved.

That said, it's not my place to explain to everyone exactly what happened, because whoever does decide to leak it (and I'm sure someone will eventually) is automatically going to make Rich look very dumb.  Until then, you're just going to have to take my word that there are reasons they got rid of him, and those reasons were good ones.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: someguy23475 on January 03, 2019, 05:29:11 AM
So Rich wasnít fired just because he was way over the top?
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 03, 2019, 02:54:07 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Season36Fan on January 03, 2019, 03:37:51 PM
Wasn't there something about him pestering someone about his contract renewal, and said person deciding, or having some influence on his contract not being renewed?


This is a faint and possibly mistaken memory... Not trying to spread a falsehood, just remember reading something along those lines.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Teddy on January 03, 2019, 03:44:41 PM
Agreed.

Going back to the subject at hand, while it involves asking for something that won't happen (but what the heck), however, I would like to see another Million Dollar Spectacular.
Me too!
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: easy1 on January 23, 2019, 06:56:54 AM
I'd like to see at least one perfect show & DSW since neither has happened yet this season and I'd like to see 3 Strikes either get a win with it's new look or bring back the old look. 
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: MrPlinko on January 30, 2019, 10:40:34 AM
A Couple of Things:

1.) Stop having Drew having to say hi to George on every opening episode.

2.) Ditto for "Don't go away" before every commercial break.

3.) Making Stack the Deck easier, more like Let Em Roll GP stet-ups.  Doing this would actually make the game fun.

Joe
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: MrPlinko on January 30, 2019, 10:43:01 AM
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Stop with the Plinko playings for a huge top prize.

Haven't watched for awhile.  What are they now doing with Pinko?  Is this only for Special Shows?

Joe

EDITED by Steve to fix the quoting.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: gamesurf on January 30, 2019, 11:36:21 AM
Every so often they jack up the center slot in Plinko for special occasions, most recently $50,000 on Christmas week, $35,000 for Plinko's 35th anniversary, and $200,000 during Big Money Week so they can advertise Million Dollar Plinko.

The trouble is that not one person ever seems to hit the big slot during those special episodes--and it's been going on for years and years now. It's always awkward when they offer $1,000,000 but the contestant only ends up winning $2,100.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 07, 2019, 07:51:58 PM
Something that we have not seen on store shelves in about 15 years, a Price Is Right home board game.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: tpir04 on February 07, 2019, 09:43:45 PM

A Couple of Things:

1.) Stop having Drew having to say hi to George on every opening episode.
I disagree. I believe it's nice that Drew does so, for mainly one reason: He's the first to do so. Take a look at old Barker eps. He never introduced the announcer, whether it was Johnny Olson, Rod Roddy or Rich Fields. The announcer was sorta "there". I think it's another way of Drew making it Drew's show.


Something that we have not seen on store shelves in about 15 years, a Price Is Right home board game.
While I whole-heartedly agree with the idea, I think we as a culture are shifting more towards mobile games, as seen with the TPIR Slots and TPIR Bingo games. It's a perfectly reasonable decision, being as though the vast majority of our lives incorporates smart devices, like smartphones and self-driving cars. Besides, everybody has their phones with them. A TPIR board game would be too bulky to carry around, especially with the dangers of losing small pieces.

Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on February 07, 2019, 10:30:40 PM
I disagree. I believe it's nice that Drew does so, for mainly one reason: He's the first to do so. Take a look at old Barker eps. He never introduced the announcer, whether it was Johnny Olson, Rod Roddy or Rich Fields. The announcer was sorta "there". I think it's another way of Drew making it Drew's show.

While I whole-heartedly agree with the idea, I think we as a culture are shifting more towards mobile games, as seen with the TPIR Slots and TPIR Bingo games. It's a perfectly reasonable decision, being as though the vast majority of our lives incorporates smart devices, like smartphones and self-driving cars. Besides, everybody has their phones with them. A TPIR board game would be too bulky to carry around, especially with the dangers of losing small pieces.

Don't come off the wrong way, but that post may be the best thing you've ever said on this site. I like to see it.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: tpir04 on February 10, 2019, 10:14:42 AM
Thanks for the compliment! I was at the top of my game that day. Happens about once a year.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Season36Fan on February 10, 2019, 12:00:44 PM
  Besides, everybody has their phones with them. A TPIR board game would be too bulky to carry around, especially with the dangers of losing small pieces.


And herein lies a problem with society.   Phone games are Not better.   The board game encourages interaction, to the point of requiring it.   When you play the board game, youíre the closest most people can come to participating in an episode.   You can be the player, the host, the announcer, even the model.   This is far bettter than playing a generic slots game with a TPIR skin.   


Our society has also shrugged a little thing called ďresponsibility.Ē   If you care about something,you take care of it.    My parents have a cabinet full of board games we played growing up and not one of them is missing pieces.  Not just the TPIR board game, but Monopoly, Easy Money,  Checkers, chess, backgammon, trivia adventure, Chinese checkers, Uno, etc.    we played as a family and those are great memories, and we took care of the pieces and parts because we wanted to play again.




Now, that said, what I would love to see is a board game that has app integration.   The game could consist of a set of prize cards with QR codes to have a prize display on an app, with or without an announcer.   On the cards would be the price and a description to read, along with a photo on the reverse for use in board pieces.   A small selection of games well suited to board games would be included in the box (pretty much any game which has a set that doesnít require mechanical movement or video effects could be made to work) and there could be additional games in the app, as well as a big wheel that actually looks and acts like the big wheel, instead of just a spinner (which would have to be in the box).  Thereís also a potential for in-app sales by adding games and updating prices.


Such a game as that would be playable right out of the box, but enhanced by technology.   It would maintain the look and feel of the show,   The app would not work standalone, it would require the box set.    Iíd buy such a game.   In fact... if some company wants to take that idea And build something out of it, please, please, please do so.   Not only can you have the idea, iíll Buy the first box and add on stuff in the app. 



Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: tpir04 on February 11, 2019, 09:34:09 AM
And herein lies a problem with society.   Phone games are Not better.   The board game encourages interaction, to the point of requiring it.   When you play the board game, youíre the closest most people can come to participating in an episode.
I don't have a problem with mobile games BUT they cannot be the driving force of a teenager's entertainment.

Say you're at Thanksgiving dinner with your family. After everyone has finished eating, you decide to play Monopoly. Assuming that no one has yet mastered the art of board flipping  :biggrin: you suddenly find yourself on Boardwalk paying $2000 to your cousin Joe. Think about this for a minute. You were flush with cash, now you're mortgaging most of your properties. Your opponent receives his rent, and is now in a wonderful mood. You, not so much. After all, the only thing you've got left is one house. At least you have somewhere to stay.

Regardless of how the game is resolved, my point is that there is interaction between you and the other players. Moods, like hotels, rise and fall. Money changes hands. You watch as others go bankrupt, one by one. Now let's see how this compares to a mobile game.

You sit down to a computer and open the app. You find yourself competing against three other players. For the most part, you have no idea who they are or where they are from. Money is tabulated electronically, so you no longer have that feeling of excitement when cousin Joe lands on States and you greet him with a $750 bill. You have no opportunity to watch for body language to help you make your next move; all you're doing is looking at a screen. You're all by yourself in a room, nobody's gathered around the dining room table. Sure there may be some great sound effects and screen graphics but it's all forced anyway. Nobody likes playing a mobile game with no pizzazz.

Man was made to be a sociable being. Whether you believe in God or not (which I do, and I'm proud of it; but that's not my main point) the point is, it's a fact that the vast majority of the human race does not like to be alone.

I've said my piece; thank you for your time.


Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: styleguy on February 12, 2019, 07:08:23 PM
Season36 your idea for the board game with the app and QR codes sounds like a game my mom bought for me called Shop N Time.  It's a game where you get a group of cards of old time products and try to guess the prices.  We had a lot of fun playing it and if a new PIR board game had a similar gameplay we'd definitely enjoy it.  Your ideas for a modernized PIR board game sounded similar to that game.   
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 12, 2019, 09:51:21 PM
I disagree. I believe it's nice that Drew does so, for mainly one reason: He's the first to do so. Take a look at old Barker eps. He never introduced the announcer, whether it was Johnny Olson, Rod Roddy or Rich Fields. The announcer was sorta "there". I think it's another way of Drew making it Drew's show.

While I whole-heartedly agree with the idea, I think we as a culture are shifting more towards mobile games, as seen with the TPIR Slots and TPIR Bingo games. It's a perfectly reasonable decision, being as though the vast majority of our lives incorporates smart devices, like smartphones and self-driving cars. Besides, everybody has their phones with them. A TPIR board game would be too bulky to carry around, especially with the dangers of losing small pieces.
  A Price Is Right board game would not be that bulky if the 2004 Endless Games edition format was followed closely. Remember, back in 2012, we almost had a new TPIR board game for the CBS show's 40th anniversary but red tape with Fremantle got in the way and the plans fell through.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: tpir04 on February 13, 2019, 05:27:02 PM
Remember, back in 2012, we almost had a new TPIR board game for the CBS show's 40th anniversary but red tape with Fremantle got in the way and the plans fell through.
New info to me. Thanks!
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: SteveGavazzi on February 14, 2019, 01:57:17 AM
Remember, back in 2012, we almost had a new TPIR board game for the CBS show's 40th anniversary but red tape with Fremantle got in the way and the plans fell through.

No, I can't say that I do.  Does this ring a bell for anyone else?
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 15, 2019, 06:27:32 PM
No, I can't say that I do.  Does this ring a bell for anyone else?
Let me clear things up and explain what I said the other night about a proposed 2012 TPIR board game. About 10 years ago, a fellow by the name of Travis Schario, who created the 2004 Price is Right game for Endless Games, had worked on a possible new Price Is Right board game in a Super Deluxe Edition, but could not a game manufacturer to take it. Then a couple of years later in 2011, I suggested an idea to Travis about a Price is Right 40th Anniversary Edition board game in possibly a regular (modeled like the 2004 game with 45 games) and deluxe (with 64 pricing games) versions for 2012 for Endless Games, who I had badgered them myself for a couple of years before. Unfortunately, they ran into some red tape with Fremantle over the licensing and the new game never materialized.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: SteveGavazzi on February 15, 2019, 10:16:18 PM
So basically, you sent some e-mails to Endless Games that had no hope of ever getting anywhere, and they didn't get anywhere.

That's not a new board game.  That's you wasting your time.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 16, 2019, 01:14:02 PM
So basically, you sent some e-mails to Endless Games that had no hope of ever getting anywhere, and they didn't get anywhere.

That's not a new board game.  That's you wasting your time.
Steve, at where I work at in suburbs of Columbus, Ohio, I have come up with ideas that were dead on arrival. Plus, I have not spoken to or emailed anyone at Endless Games on anything since and remember, I first made that suggestion to Travis Schario back in 2011 and have not emailed him since, which meant a new TPIR board game idea was dead on arrival. So, enough said.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: ThomHuge on February 16, 2019, 01:52:56 PM
Steve, at where I work at in suburbs of Columbus, Ohio, I have come up with ideas that were dead on arrival. Plus, I have not spoken to or emailed anyone at Endless Games on anything since and remember, I first made that suggestion to Travis Schario back in 2011 and have not emailed him since, which meant a new TPIR board game idea was dead on arrival. So, enough said.

I'm sorry, but...no. Forgive me for wading into this, but what you just described doesn't equal "we almost had a new board game." Not even close. "Almost had a new board game" implies there was already work being done on the game and Fremantle got in the way.

The act of you mentioning it to someone who didn't e-mail you back doesn't equal "almost had a board game," especially if you (as you described it) "badgered" the company with e-mails on the same topic. Persistence is one thing, but there's a point at which a line gets crossed and it just becomes annoying.

Unless I'm missing something, from what you tell us it sounds a lot like your original suggestion wasn't even acknowledged. You told us yourself the idea was dead on arrival, and there's absolutely no logical way to equate that with "almost had a new board game."
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 16, 2019, 04:58:44 PM
I'm sorry, but...no. Forgive me for wading into this, but what you just described doesn't equal "we almost had a new board game." Not even close. "Almost had a new board game" implies there was already work being done on the game and Fremantle got in the way.

The act of you mentioning it to someone who didn't e-mail you back doesn't equal "almost had a board game," especially if you (as you described it) "badgered" the company with e-mails on the same topic. Persistence is one thing, but there's a point at which a line gets crossed and it just becomes annoying.

Unless I'm missing something, from what you tell us it sounds a lot like your original suggestion wasn't even acknowledged. You told us yourself the idea was dead on arrival, and there's absolutely no logical way to equate that with "almost had a new board game."
  Steve and ThomHuge, remember that between 2007 and 2009, Travis Schario, who did the 2004 TPIR game, tried to get two more TPIR board game versions on to store shelves on behalf of Endless: one In a Quick Picks travel edition and the second in a Super Deluxe Edition, but neither one made it. Then in 2011, I emailed Travis with an idea for a new game to coincide with the show's 40th Anniversary on CBS to no avail despite Wikipedia briefly mentioning one in 2012, it did not happen of course and was promptly removed. I have not emailed him or Endless Games about anything or this since.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: gamesurf on February 16, 2019, 08:14:36 PM
despite Wikipedia briefly mentioning one in 2012, it did not happen of course and was promptly removed.

An unsourced rumor on Wikipedia is not evidence of anything. I could edit it right now and add that Drew is considering leaving at the end of the season to host Wheel of Fortune. Doesn't make it any more true.

Then in 2011, I emailed Travis with an idea for a new game to coincide with the show's 40th Anniversary on CBS to no avail

That's not evidence of anything either--I could email Taylor Swift tell her I have a great idea for a song where she celebrates 48 years of Price is Right being on the air. If she doesn't write back, I can't go around telling people that "OMG Taylor Swift might be writing a song about TPIR!"

Unfortunately, they ran into some red tape with Fremantle over the licensing and the new game never materialized.

What evidence do you have that the idea for the game got to Fremantle? And how do you know that it was "licensing" or "red tape" that stopped it, and not, say, that they simply didn't want to do it?

"Red tape" means some regulation or excessive formality stopped it. It implies that it would have gotten off of the ground if not for some archaic practice. Fremantle not giving permission is not "red tape". Getting permission from the rights holders is the FIRST thing you need to do before making a licensed game. It is absolutely not archaic.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: SteveGavazzi on February 16, 2019, 10:17:05 PM
Jay, nothing you've said in this thread makes a dent in the original assessment of "You annoyed a bunch of people who didn't care about anything you were saying, so they ignored you."

Whether you're aware of it or not, you're completely wrong about this subject.  Please do not post about it again.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 17, 2019, 05:16:36 PM
Jay, nothing you've said in this thread makes a dent in the original assessment of "You annoyed a bunch of people who didn't care about anything you were saying, so they ignored you."

Whether you're aware of it or not, you're completely wrong about this subject.  Please do not post about it again.
Steve, I do want to apologize to you and all of the fellow bloggers on golden-road.net who I have affended and annoyed over my recent comments on this subject. I am sorry for all of this.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: SteveGavazzi on February 17, 2019, 06:31:10 PM
We're not offended.  We're just baffled that you can't seem to get it through your head that you weren't actually influencing anybody.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 17, 2019, 07:52:58 PM
My 2019 wishes:

1. That Drew remains host for this year and many years to come.
2. That George remains announcer for this year and many years to come.
3. That the show remains just as fun and enjoyable as it did in 2018 (that is to say, I thought 2018 was an awesome year for the show).
Here is mine:
   Update the sets of Grocery Game, Dice Game, Money Game and Check-Out, all four are way too outdated;
   Start playing 3 Strikes for $20,000+ automobiles and adjust the chip bag;
   More playings of other older games like Bonus Game, Shell Game and Hi-Lo.. Plus, Golden Road and Triple Play should be played on a once-monthly basis;
   Debut their new pricing game of the season, Crane Game;
   Cut back the playings of Pick-A-Number and That's Too Much as they have been overplayed.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: blozier2006 on February 17, 2019, 08:13:16 PM
   Debut their new pricing game of the season, Crane Game;
You know Crane Game was nothing more than a hoax, right?
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: JayC on February 17, 2019, 10:32:30 PM
Start playing 3 Strikes for $20,000+ automobiles and adjust the chip bag
Why would you want to have 3 Strikes be played for non-luxury cars?
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: EvilChameleon on February 17, 2019, 10:58:51 PM
These are some bizarre ideas, Williams.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: ThomHuge on February 18, 2019, 10:12:49 AM
These are some bizarre ideas, Williams.

Some of them are, but I could actually get behind playing games like Triple Play and Golden Road more often, especially if we could cut back on things like Pick-a-Number or That's Too Much or Money Game at the same time. I get that we're losing ever more time to commercials, but it feels like we're relying too much on quick games to get us through the hour these days. It also feels like TTM is never won, which is just as bad.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: blozier2006 on February 18, 2019, 10:48:11 AM
It also feels like TTM is never won, which is just as bad.
I believe that's the point of TTM. Say it with me here... "Budget Saver." (that being said, I'm no happier about it than anyone else is here, but I realize it happens for a reason)
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: gamesurf on February 18, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Some of them are, but I could actually get behind playing games like Triple Play and Golden Road more often, especially if we could cut back on things like Pick-a-Number or That's Too Much or Money Game at the same time.

Those are inherently contradictory goals though--"Play longer, more expensive games more often" and "Cut back on shorter, cheaper games". To accomplish one, you have to do less of the other.

What are you going to give up to get the airtime back? Bid on one showcase? Cut IUFBs and have players run up on stage TPIR '94 style? What about the budget? You fine with every car game being a wash for three weeks in order to pay for a few Golden Road wins?
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: ThomHuge on February 18, 2019, 04:31:05 PM
Those are inherently contradictory goals though--"Play longer, more expensive games more often" and "Cut back on shorter, cheaper games". To accomplish one, you have to do less of the other.

I never claimed it was feasible, just that it was what I'd like to see happen.

What are you going to give up to get the airtime back? Bid on one showcase? Cut IUFBs and have players run up on stage TPIR '94 style? What about the budget? You fine with every car game being a wash for three weeks in order to pay for a few Golden Road wins?

In order:
* No, I don't want to cut one showcase. Two showcases works just fine.
* No, I don't want to cut IUFBs. TPiR'94 was just weird without them, especially since they had a bidder's row that they weren't using.
* No, I don't want to constantly force losses to fund G-R wins.

Now that that's out of the wayWho said anything about giving anything up to get airtime back? NBC announced not that long ago that they were cutting back on commercial time for some of their programming, I know it's a long shot but I hope that starts a trend.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 18, 2019, 06:01:40 PM
Why would you want to have 3 Strikes be played for non-luxury cars?
First of all, it is regularly played for big ticket cars in the $40-$50-$60k range and does not get played too often nowadays. This way, if they can play it for less expensive cars, it would get more playing time again.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: jaywilliams on February 18, 2019, 06:04:52 PM
Some of them are, but I could actually get behind playing games like Triple Play and Golden Road more often, especially if we could cut back on things like Pick-a-Number or That's Too Much or Money Game at the same time. I get that we're losing ever more time to commercials, but it feels like we're relying too much on quick games to get us through the hour these days. It also feels like TTM is never won, which is just as bad.
If they would cut down the commercials time back to 12-15 minutes a show and eliminate the commercial break between the showcase presentation and the showcase reveal, it would help a lot and allow a lot of rarely played pricing games to be played on a semi regular basis again.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: Ton80 on February 18, 2019, 06:23:22 PM
Quote from: jaywilliams
If they would cut down the commercials time back to 12-15 minutes a show and eliminate the commercial break between the showcase presentation and the showcase reveal, it would help a lot and allow a lot of rarely played pricing games to be played on a semi regular basis again.
Yeah, but that will never happen. 

More commercial time = more commercials
More commercials = more money
More money = Good thing (for the show's owners & producers)
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: gamesurf on February 18, 2019, 06:58:08 PM
Who said anything about giving anything up to get airtime back? NBC announced not that long ago that they were cutting back on commercial time for some of their programming, I know it's a long shot but I hope that starts a trend.

Interesting reading, thanks for mentioning it.

https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nbc-slashing-prime-time-ads-even-further-3c4c884f-b386-401f-b045-68f425ceaf66.html

The idea is intriguing, though NBC's cuts seem to be focused mostly on primetime. And NBC's media empire is pretty broad (MSNBC, CNBC, a third of Hulu, a smattering of sports and entertainment cable channels) while CBS just has CBS, CBS Sports, and half of the CW. So strategies may not work 1:1 across all networks.

Ad revenue for CBS was 1.73 billion (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/04/cbs-tops-estimates-on-healthy-ad-sales.html) in 1Q 2018, out of a total revenue of 3.76 Billion (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/cbs/financials/), so 46% of CBS' revenue comes from ads. If Les Moonves is to be believed, a decade ago ad revenue accounted for over 70% (https://tvnewscheck.com/article/106274/only-40-of-cbs-revenue-comes-from-ads/) of revenues, so at least it's moving in the right direction.

If something like CBS All-Access takes off, to the point where its scale envelops the regular network, then maybe there's a chance they free up a few minutes (and I've said before, I would love to see what Drew and co could do with a 44 minute timeslot). But the daytime TV landscape could look radically different if that happens--and Price's value to the network could change as the daytime landscape changes. It's certainly not a sure thing.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: ThomHuge on February 18, 2019, 08:31:27 PM
But the daytime TV landscape could look radically different if that happens--and Price's value to the network could change as the daytime landscape changes. It's certainly not a sure thing.

It's kind of a catch-22 when you think about it (or at least that's how I see it). We all know daytime TV ratings are steadily falling and have been for ages. I think a major driver of that is the overload of advertising, but that's an unsubstantiated belief. Regardless, falling ratings mean they have to squeeze in more ads, to maximize return on investment for everyone who IS watching...which turns into a vicious cycle. (Ad overload is precisely why I rely on Amazon Unbox for just about all my TV needs...no commercials.)

I strongly believe that reducing the amount of ads per show would get people to start tuning back in. Not only is it less disruptive, fewer commercials should in theory result in better ones.

Yes, I know...long shot, but I'd like to think the logic is sound at least.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: JayC on February 18, 2019, 10:58:21 PM
First of all, it is regularly played for big ticket cars in the $40-$50-$60k range and does not get played too often nowadays. This way, if they can play it for less expensive cars, it would get more playing time again.
The luxury cars are the big draw for 3 Strikes and what makes it worth the time it takes to play. They tried to play it for just regular cars in season 37 and it went away for a long time and went back to being played for luxury cars again.




Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: EvilChameleon on February 18, 2019, 11:28:56 PM
First of all, it is regularly played for big ticket cars in the $40-$50-$60k range and does not get played too often nowadays. This way, if they can play it for less expensive cars, it would get more playing time again.

So you don't care if it's won or not, you just want it to have more playtime? If they wanted to play a hard car game for a cheap car, they would just play Stack The Deck.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: pannoni1 on February 19, 2019, 08:00:07 AM
It's kind of a catch-22 when you think about it (or at least that's how I see it). We all know daytime TV ratings are steadily falling and have been for ages. I think a major driver of that is the overload of advertising, but that's an unsubstantiated belief. Regardless, falling ratings mean they have to squeeze in more ads, to maximize return on investment for everyone who IS watching...which turns into a vicious cycle. (Ad overload is precisely why I rely on Amazon Unbox for just about all my TV needs...no commercials.)

I strongly believe that reducing the amount of ads per show would get people to start tuning back in. Not only is it less disruptive, fewer commercials should in theory result in better ones.

Yes, I know...long shot, but I'd like to think the logic is sound at least.

It's not just the overload of ads, it's the TYPE of ads that play through! As you know, 60-second (and even some 90 and 120 second) prescription pharmaceutical spots (AKA the "Ask your doctor") ads are some of the most commonly seen on TV these days, as opposed to the 15- and 30-second over-the-counter ones that were common for the show's first 25 years or so. You also have more stuff like insurance companies and money lending that only sells with a much narrower-focused audience. You don't see as many ads for things like food, house cleaning products, department stores, or even things like batteries like you traditionally saw, and so many of the "good" ones are just 15 seconds long, often sandwiched in between the long pharma/insurance ones. So the Selsun Blues, Lysols, Actifeds, Kellogg's, and Duracells have taken a back seat to the Xeraltos, Liberty Mutuals, AstraZenecas, and more that appeal to the teleworkers as opposed to the stay-at-home moms. You'll see that difference if you watch the original broadcasts with commercials that circulate from most of the Bob era compared to those from the Drew era.
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: PIRfanSince72 on March 10, 2019, 01:58:21 PM
To me, if the show is in "budget" mode so often, I'd rather they use the Johnny Carson Tonight Show model.

Just air 3 original episodes per week and have Monday and Friday episodes be "best of" episodes instead.

I'd rather see 3 episodes that are somewhat more exciting than 5 semi-exciting eps.

That being said, I wish the show could have twice as many good pricing games.

Often I have complained how whenever a car is driven out on stage, we know it's Lucky Seven that will be played.  Come up with a second pricing game with that same set up so people will say "Oh it's NOT Lucky Seven this time!"  That's the one beautiful thing about Split Decision, as that game had a very similar intro as Any Number.  But to the trained fan, if Rod said "or a new car!" you knew it was Any Number but if he said "AND a new car!" it was Split Decision....
Title: Re: Your TPIR wishes for 2019
Post by: b_masters8 on March 12, 2019, 02:29:17 PM
I'd rather see 3 episodes that are somewhat more exciting than 5 semi-exciting eps.

Personally, I feel that even a semi-exciting episode with one or two wins (even if they're not car wins) is far better than a dud with no wins whatsoever.