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Title: 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame
Post by: someguy23475 on January 23, 2019, 12:00:59 AM
Mariano Rivera, Roy Halladay, Mike Mussina, and Edgar Martinez make the Hall of Fame. Martinez is the one I feel does not belong. For one, he doesnít have any of the milestones. He never won a championship. He was never dominant. Most of all, for most of his career, he didnít play a position. Heís just like Harold Baines- good hitter, sometimes great, but never dominant, and did not play the field. Electing these two waters down the Hall.

The steroid guys (Clemens, Bonds), got an uptick in votes but did not make it in.
Title: Re: 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame
Post by: bigblue999 on January 23, 2019, 12:13:16 AM
Mariano Rivera, Roy Halladay, Mike Mussina, and Edgar Martinez make the Hall of Fame. Martinez is the one I feel does not belong. For one, he doesnít have any of the milestones. He never won a championship. He was never dominant. Most of all, for most of his career, he didnít play a position. Heís just like Harold Baines- good hitter, sometimes great, but never dominant, and did not play the field. Electing these two waters down the Hall.

The steroid guys (Clemens, Bonds), got an uptick in votes but did not make it in.

Never dominant? I guess 7 all-star games, 5 silver-sluggers, and two batting titles doesn't mean anything. Yes he never won a championship, but neither did Mussina nor Halladay. He was probably the most feared DH in the game before David Ortiz.
Title: Re: 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame
Post by: someguy23475 on January 23, 2019, 12:24:14 AM
Martinez didnít play a position most of his career. Silver slugger for DH does not count either. All Star appearances donít weigh too much in my eyes since most of them are popularity contests (fan voting), and actual merit is secondary.

I believe Ortiz did PEDs so he shouldnít be in the Hall. That, and he didnít play a position most of his career either.
Title: Re: 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame
Post by: Flerbert419 on January 23, 2019, 07:32:10 AM
I find it impossible to argue against the steroid users when Mike Piazza, who admitted to taking a now-banned PED, has already been elected.
Title: Re: 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame
Post by: JayC on January 23, 2019, 04:07:12 PM
Mike Mussina is the only real surprise of the four to me, he has a great winning percentage but I never thought he was particularly dominant and he never won a Cy Young.

Edgar Martinez was primarly a DH yes but he's still one of the best hitters of the game. I agree Harold Baines is quite questionable, but Edgar was much better.
Title: Re: 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame
Post by: someguy23475 on January 23, 2019, 06:00:16 PM
I would have voted for Larry Walker over Martinez if I were forced to choose. Better hitter, and actually played the field (fairly well actually). Still, I think Walker is not a Hall of Famer either.
Title: Re: 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame
Post by: JayC on January 24, 2019, 11:51:26 AM
I would vote for Larry Walker as well, along with Curt Schilling. Walker was one of the most dominant hitters I remember seeing and Schilling is an all-time clutch pitcher. Schilling got a little over 60% this year so with Derek Jeter being the only lock next year I do think it's possible he gets in with him.
Title: Re: 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame
Post by: therealcu2010 on January 24, 2019, 12:14:49 PM
Noteworthy of this year's class is the fact that Mariano Rivera became the first player ever to be elected unanimously... to what should be the surprise of no one.