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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: ChrisJ812 on January 26, 2019, 12:39:37 AM

Title: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: ChrisJ812 on January 26, 2019, 12:39:37 AM
Do you think TPIR shud bring back still reaction shots of them winning or losing their pricing games like they used to do in Bob's era?
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: PayingTheRent on January 26, 2019, 03:38:13 AM
Should they? I would certainly be in favor of this!

Will they? Almost certainly no. Not when those couple of seconds can be used elsewhere, and I would say damn near every episode these days has more than a few seconds shaved off in editing as it is.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: jhc2010 on January 26, 2019, 09:48:42 AM
Did they bring these shots back for any of the throwback episodes they have had over the years?
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: ThomHuge on January 26, 2019, 10:10:44 AM
Did they bring these shots back for any of the throwback episodes they have had over the years?

I can't remember these being used at all since Drew took over. Considering how much of the show's airtime is given over to commercials, I doubt they've been used in that time, and I also doubt we'll ever see these again.

/Then again, according to an article I saw on LinkedIn not that long ago, NBC is finally seeing reason and cutting back on commercial time during their primetime shows. It sounds like they're starting to realize one big reason they're losing out to streaming platforms is the latter is commercial-free.

Source #1 (https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/nbcuniversal-cut-commercials-primetime-2020-1203102373/)
Source #2 (https://adage.com/article/media/nbcu-promises-reduce-tv-commercials-20-percent/312548/)
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: Drew72 on January 26, 2019, 11:47:37 AM
I liked those still frame reaction shots... They really didn't seem to take any additional time, as I remember.  Instead of a 3 second audience pan shot leading into commercial, they showed a 3 second still instead, sometimes 2 back to back with different expressions.  The replay they did on Hole in One yesterday as they led into commercial felt like a throw-back to that era. (Yes, it was video and not a still shot, but it had that Bob era feel).  Didn't they mainly use the still shots in the late 80's into the 90's? I don't remember them in Bob's later years.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: ThomHuge on January 26, 2019, 12:24:43 PM
I liked those still frame reaction shots... They really didn't seem to take any additional time, as I remember.

They always showed the stills after Bob did the toss to commercial before fading to black. Had it not been for the stills, they'd have simply faded to black. Therefore they did take additional time, even if it was just 2-3 seconds apiece.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: htmlcc92 on January 26, 2019, 12:31:20 PM
They did do one on the season 42 Valentine's Day episode, after Secret "X," as evidenced here (about 3:36): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMIezW1qCQU
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: Sizeman on January 26, 2019, 01:39:48 PM
When I attended the show which aired 2007-02-28, this topic was brought up during the Q&A with Bob as they weren't doing them anymore even at that point.
I documented the exchange at: http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,2479.msg40067.html#msg40067

After that discussion, the still shot was revived for at least one subsequent episode (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,2501.msg40327.html#msg40327) but I don't think it lasted much beyond that.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: brosa0 on January 26, 2019, 04:55:50 PM
I don't like the still reaction shots at all. They frankly seem very antiquated and are better left in the past.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: ChrisJ812 on January 26, 2019, 09:32:08 PM
I loved them and they shud bring them back esp for crushing losses and great wins!
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: dmaingame on January 27, 2019, 09:27:11 PM
I miss those freeze-frame shots of contestants' reactions going into commercials.  Those were common when the late Paul Alter was directing TPIR in the late 80s and 90s.  I hope the new director will see the tradition Alter gave us and bring them back.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: urbanpreppie0004 on January 27, 2019, 09:29:50 PM
I don't like the still reaction shots at all. They frankly seem very antiquated and are better left in the past.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: Axl on January 30, 2019, 01:40:37 AM
I don't like the still reaction shots at all. They frankly seem very antiquated and are better left in the past.

Especially the ones that are literal stills, with no movement at all.  Those were done at a time when the technical director had to freeze off those shots on the fly and put them up in real time at the end of the act.

But these days, they could do a Ken Burns-style moving montage of 2 or 3 stills, or slo-mo isolated reactions like they do sometimes going into sports breaks.  It's easy now in post-production.  Those would take up 5-8 seconds apiece, so time could be a factor.  But I'd prefer a well-done montage to a shot of a contestant holding up a novelty license plate.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: pannoni1 on January 30, 2019, 10:32:08 AM
I feel that these should be brought back for critical situations, like painful losses and huge wins, time permitting. It was a nice smooth transition between the show and commercial break.

Also, remember when Wheel used to have slow-motion replay shots when the contestant won the bonus round back in the early 2000s? Basically, the video would replay at around seven frames/second.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: jhc2010 on February 07, 2019, 04:46:15 PM
While watching Card Sharks with Bob Eubanks, I noticed that show also used still shots before throwing to commercial after players play the Money Cards. I wonder if the same any of the same staff worked on both shows since they were both taped at Studio 33.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: Drew72 on February 07, 2019, 04:54:11 PM
I bet some of the same people were on the crew of both shows in studio 33.  I have a feeling they got a new "toy" in the control room that captured still frames and thought it would be fun to somehow use it.  Card Sharks also used Price's losing horns/tuba cue which kinda demonstrates how certain aspects crossed over.
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: Chief-O on February 07, 2019, 08:16:44 PM
While watching Card Sharks with Bob Eubanks, I noticed that show also used still shots before throwing to commercial after players play the Money Cards. I wonder if the same any of the same staff worked on both shows since they were both taped at Studio 33.

This specifically had to have been Paul Alter's decision; he did initially work that version of CS (Breslow eventually replaced him).
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: jhc2010 on February 07, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
Alter worked on Card Sharks in 1986. He also began his run at Price that year. The still shot I saw on today’s Buzzr episode was very poor. The shot of the contestant was off-center but a good shot, but Bob Eubanks was center screen with his eyes half open looking horrible. It was definitely added live by the director moments following the result of the game.

Are there any other game shows that used this effect for any part of their run?
Title: Re: Still Reaction Shots
Post by: dmaingame on February 08, 2019, 12:05:48 AM
I bet some of the same people were on the crew of both shows in studio 33.  I have a feeling they got a new "toy" in the control room that captured still frames and thought it would be fun to somehow use it.  Card Sharks also used Price's losing horns/tuba cue which kinda demonstrates how certain aspects crossed over.

Eubanks' Card Sharks also used Big Banana, Match Game Hollywood Squares' Hour, and a few other car cues used on TPIR.  They also used the same winning bell, and whoops for car wins.  Quite a few other Mark Goodson produced game shows also used the same sound effects.  For instance, Body Language used the MRRP buzzer to indicate time was up or a guess to a puzzle was incorrect.