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Offline junkaholic95

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The attitude of this site lately.
« on: February 29, 2008, 10:38:23 PM »
I would like to start by saying that I have no intentions of singling out anyone in particular.  I only wish to make known my frustration with this site.  Here is a recently made post that is an example of what I'm talking about.


But since the fur ban is still in effect and some old guy who really shouldn't be upset he offered furs in the past we get the three episodes GSN reran in the 90's (Episodes 2, 3-R, and 5).

So, yeah. Maybe they'll stop letting the old man be a glory hog (see the ego inflation in Seasons 33-35) and give the other hosts some much-needed loving in Volume 2 (I very much hope)...But as long as he's alive I very much doubt that.

Anyway, here's to the 'no-hopers' - who don't have a hope as long as (Billy? Borat?) is still kicking Chuck Norris' butt.

Right here is one reason why I'm simply fed up with half of the people on this site.  Why do half of you suddenly hate Bob Barker?  Is it because he's old?  Is it because of the various law suits?  It is because of him banning fur episodes?  Why?  Why do so many of you hate Bob?  I just do not understand the Bob bashing.

Also, it seems like there are 5 things I'm seeing most.

1) You must hate Bob Barker and love Drew Carey

2) If not, then you must love Bob Barker and hate Drew Carey

3)  You must not under any circumstances complain about changes to the show.

4)  Do not under any circumstances disagree with anything anyone says or you get bashed.

5)  Do not under any circumstances point out that you're tired of people bashing you.

Now, I realize that all may be a bit over the top, but this is what I'm seeing lately.
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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008, 03:09:20 AM »
You're right.  Much of the banter on this site recently has resembled a flame war.  While I agree that people have the right to their own opinion, there is also an expectation in my eye that those opinions will be respected.  This is, after all, a public forum.  It seems like people just like to pick fights with anyone who disagrees with them.  A post like this was necessary, as I hope it opens people's eyes a little to what these forums have turned into.

I'd like to see a moderator respond to this, as well as a constructive discussion if others see fit.

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2008, 04:11:19 AM »
Marc said earlier in the year that we must treat others the way we want to be treated.  To me, that is how things should go.  This site should be a place where we can share our different points of view.  Some or many may not share someone's opinion and they should feel free to express their own opinion with out bashing the other person.

Think before you write, guys.

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2008, 07:49:41 AM »
Now, I realize that all may be a bit over the top...

I think about 98% of what you wrote is over the top.  Honestly junkaholic95.  Take a few minutes to re-read what you wrote last night and tell me if you really believe it to be true.  I just took a look at your post history of the past few months -- it seems like you're doing a great deal of the complaining!  But there's nothing wrong with that...that's why we're here.  We're here to complain & praise, to talk about our likes & dislikes, and to analyze all the aspects of one of our favorite television programs.  So long as your discussion falls within the site rules, it's fair game.  Debating of the points has always been welcome.  Having that debate become personal is unwelcome.  Just remember that when something is published on this or any other site, people have a right to respond in the positive or in the negative.  Just do it with a little class & tact and we'll all be fine.

To that point, posts such as the one you referenced above are unacceptable and will be removed from the site.  When you see something like this, I invite and urge you to use the "Report to Moderator" link that is on the lower right-hand corner of every single post.  John, the mod team and myself simply cannot be around 24-7.  We do what we can within the bounds of our work and personal lives.  The Report link is the fastest and most effective way to call something to our attention, and we will respond if we feel that a response is needed!

In closing, junkaholic95, if you strong feel as strongly as you have written, please help me out.  Find for me 5 posts where "the bashing just keeps going back and forth"; where people "downright flame others for having different opinions."  Go ahead and post these links right here in this thread for all to see.  Show me how the site lacks that "safe, friendly environment" that we had in the past.  Help me see what's "really going on", 'cause truthfully, I'm just not seeing what you are.

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2008, 11:37:33 AM »
I give up.

Why? Because Marc was reasonable and still can't see any part of your rambling?

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 02:50:45 AM »
Look, junkaholic, I understand what you mean, but I think you are over-reacting a bit.

First of all, I agree with you, that post that you quoted, that was totally out of line. You don't like the man, fine, but at least show some respect. However, there is something in your post that kinda bugs me. You seem to this that everyone here turned his coat on Barker.

There will never be another Bob Barker. He's the reason why this show lasted this long, and we wouldn't be talking about this on this website if it wasn't for him. I will never take away what he's done.

But Bob is gone. He retired. We all have to move on. It's Drew's time now, and I have to say, honestly, that in this day and age, I think he's doing a much better job at connecting with younger people than Bob did, and I'm saying that with all due respect. Times are always changing, and if Drew is still the host in 35 years, and he retires, the new host will also be able to connect more with younger folks. Anyway, I digress...

My point is, junkaholic, I do not mean any disrespect, here, but you seem to be mad at us for not idolizing Bob. I believe that we should be allowed to say that Drew is doing a heck of a job, that we should point out that Bob, as great as he's been on camera, might not have been a role-model off-camera, and that, as legendary as he's been, he was due for retirement (remember all those senior moments last year). All of that doesn't mean that we don't think Bob was the W.G.M.C., we are just able to see it from an objective point of view, something that, judging from your post and several others, doesn't seem to be your case (again, no offense ...).

After all, this is a "The Price Is Right" website, not a "I heart Bob Barker" website. There is more to The Price Is Right than just the host...

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 11:41:26 AM »
I didn't mean to imply that everyone HAS to love Bob Barker.  I do, however, feel that if you dislike him, do so with a little more respect and not refer to him as "some old guy."  It just seems to me that ever since he retired, there's been an explosion of Bob hate going on.  Not everyone mind you, but certainly more than there used to be.  Again, I don't mind if a few people or more dislike him, but that's no excuse to be disrespectful.  On a related note, I had my doubts of Drew Carey in the beginning, but now I feel he's doing just fine.  He's really grown into the job of host quite well.

As for the situation of the  "flame war,"  have a look at this.


Quote from: MattOttinger on January 24, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
For the record, there are plenty of people on both forums who've expressed varying levels of disapointment about the overall selection of episodes, mostly that the entire final week is overkill and that it would have been nice to see some 80s and 90s shows.  But no one on my forum has said anything about being upset that Cullen episodes are part of the release, and certainly no one shares your frankly ludicrous view that people might be less inclined to purchase the volume when they see that there's something extra included.You're on your own on this one, don't try to bolster your case with a vague reference to something that isn't true.

Granted this is only one small example, but there have been others.  If anyone, cares to share any similar situations, please speak up.  Send them to me through PM like PriceFan did if you wish.
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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2008, 12:50:12 PM »
95 percent of the people on this forum are extremely respectful.  If anything, there ought to be MORE banter (friendly banter, though).  It gets kinda stale if everyone is always agreeing with one another.  Our of the handful of other online forums I visit (which are sports forums), the people on this site are by FAR the most respectful.........

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 01:50:58 PM »
If nothing else, this thread has reminded me why I disfavor the use of the post editing feature.  Since I last looked at this thread, it seems like much of junkaholic95's initial post has been edited down...making most of my initial response to him invalid.  This really isn't fair to me and to all of the first-time readers of this thread.

I wish our software package provided me with a way to turn off post editing a few minutes after the posting, thus allowing time for mistakes to be corrected.  Unfortunately it does not...so now we're going to go without post editing ability in all of our main forum areas.

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2008, 01:54:29 PM »
I just wanted to turn down the anger level a bit.  I see all I've done is make a mess of things.  I'm sorry I ruined this site for everyone.  I guess the only problem with this site is me.

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2008, 02:56:01 PM »
I don't think you're a problem with the site at all... after all, you're just stating your opinion. I think that would make the board better, for everyone to get their opinions off their chests.

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2008, 07:12:07 PM »
If nothing else, this thread has reminded me why I disfavor the use of the post editing feature.  Since I last looked at this thread, it seems like much of junkaholic95's initial post has been edited down...making most of my initial response to him invalid.  This really isn't fair to me and to all of the first-time readers of this thread.

I wish our software package provided me with a way to turn off post editing a few minutes after the posting, thus allowing time for mistakes to be corrected.  Unfortunately it does not...so now we're going to go without post editing ability in all of our main forum areas.

With all due respect Marc, Junkaholic edited that post because HE also believed some of it to be over the top. He edited it for that reason, not to make your reply seem invalid.
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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2008, 08:47:38 PM »
I just wanted to turn down the anger level a bit.  I see all I've done is make a mess of things.  I'm sorry I ruined this site for everyone.  I guess the only problem with this site is me.

Don't say that, bud! You didn't ruin the site at all, far from it! I respect everything you say, and I enjoy reading your posts, normally. It's just that this time, it felt a bit exaggerated. Besides that, I never have any quarrels with your posts.

Eh, after all, we're here to discuss, no?

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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2008, 09:11:08 PM »
If nothing else, this thread has reminded me why I disfavor the use of the post editing feature.  Since I last looked at this thread, it seems like much of junkaholic95's initial post has been edited down...making most of my initial response to him invalid.  This really isn't fair to me and to all of the first-time readers of this thread.

I wish our software package provided me with a way to turn off post editing a few minutes after the posting, thus allowing time for mistakes to be corrected.  Unfortunately it does not...so now we're going to go without post editing ability in all of our main forum areas.


Marc, I think I'm gonna have to stay neutral here; there's a side of me that believes Junky did edit that initial post just to make your point seem invalid, but another side of me says that Junky edited that post because he KNEW that he wasn't gonna win the argument by going over the top.  As a history major, when I'm given something to analyze, I have to construct an argument (if something is valid or not) by breaking it down and supporting my claims with the evidence that I'm presented.  It's very difficult to have to argue a position and tie it all together with supporting evidence while still trying to keep an open mind. 

As far as the removal of the "edit post" feature goes, although I understand your decision, I have to share a sense of disagreement here.  I know that, from time to time, people posting in these forums tend to make mistakes; heck, I make mistakes on a consistent basis.  Sometimes, I'll have a link that's wrong or needs to be removed, or I'll enter the wrong HTML code--I'll have something shown in bold instead of in italics, and so on.  I know about the "no spoilers" policy here, but sometimes people would post TPIR trip reports that would accidentally contain an outcome in there; I remember editing out my trip report just for the purpose of avoiding giving away something that I witnessed when I was at that taping.  That's what we used to call "good-natured edits."  I know we have a "preview" function, but some of us in here have "happy fingers" and click on "post" without even realizing what is being posted. 

Seriously, I hope and pray that this thread serves as a reminder that we should always be careful what we post about in here, and that you have to back up your arguments with supporting evidence based on what is presented. 
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Re: The attitude of this site lately.
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2008, 12:31:00 AM »
Unfortunately it does not...so now we're going to go without post editing ability in all of our main forum areas.
Whoa... that edit feature is pretty crucial, especially for me. I'm a big editor right after I make a post (I'm a perfectionist... what can I say), and I add in screencaps by editing. I hope you can reconsider this decision.