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DarkShockBro:
Alright, guys. This is something that's been annoying me for awhile, and I really need it to get off my chest.

*Ranting time.*

This site is driving everyone, especially me, nuts. I'm not kidding, EVERYTHING is during into a giant fight. Why? I'm not entirely sure, but I'll list why I think this is the case. No one can just drop things, and instead choose to chastise EVERY SINGLE thing that's posted on the site. Is anyone wondering why there aren't many contributing members on this site? I'll tell you why, because no one wants to get yelled at by people on the internet for their opinions or statements.

I could go on for HOURS listing all of the hateful bulls*** I've seen on this site in response to people listing their opinions and statements. And to be honest, I'm sick of it. I'm not going to give any examples, because it's too f***ing prominent for me to cover in one thread. Has this site truly developed into a battlefield where no one wins and everyone lobs grenades at each other? I think it has. Does this sound like a good site to you? No, it doesn't.

My message: think about how YOU look before you post your message about someone else, because if you don't, you'll contribute to this war. Swallow your pride, and let people be content about posting opinions or information, no matter how s***ty you think they are. I'm literally begging you; I'm starting a THREAD to express how I feel. That's how pissed off I am. I have TRIED to let this behavior go, but I just can't do it anymore. Please stop the war.

*Ranting over.*

(takes a deep breath)

Think on that, please. Goodbye.

TheGRVOfLightning:
I think we all need to take this on board.

Prizes:

--- Quote from: DarkShockBro on December 08, 2012, 09:12:41 PM ---This site is driving everyone, especially me, nuts. I'm not kidding, EVERYTHING is during into a giant fight. Why? I'm not entirely sure, but I'll list why I think this is the case. No one can just drop things, and instead choose to chastise EVERY SINGLE thing that's posted on the site. Is anyone wondering why there aren't many contributing members on this site? I'll tell you why, because no one wants to get yelled at by people on the internet for their opinions or statements.
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Interesting. I partly agree, but not in full. I tend to think the reverse order of you, but I respect your opinion; which is to say, you have a multitude of contributors leading to site decorum, rather than site decorum leading to site contributors. I actually post quite a bit less here these days because the member quality (no names, it's the site as a majority) is nowhere close to what it was.

My opinion is based from other pages, I've been on/run. When you have instability, members who don't have central enough of a focus tend to argue. On the most basic of levels, the question becomes what the future of the site is. Here, it's (sadly) become: "Do we want to be a game or discussion site?" This also turns to, in TTiR: "Are what Drew, Mike, etc. doing a positive thing for the show?" I personally don't think so, but this means nothing, in the scheme of things. The problem is having weak arguments for most of them, due to the collective intelligence of the site decreasing. So, what's the easy form of insult? The potshot, the insult, of the person. Ultimately, the insult should be of the opinion, not the person, with substantial evidence. When you lack the intelligence to do so, it devolves, and becomes primitive.

I look at my site, where not everyone totally agrees, but, you know what? We present our arguments logically, with precision, and jokes to keep it loose. It's why a site like Invision still works, it's why my site works. You must have intelligence to run a competent site, to have solid discussion, and less of these ad hominem attacks.

This needs to stop. But the way we get to doing this is maintaining the very high quality of standards of posting by its members the site had years ago. Our biggest arguments in 2006 were about Dom friggin' Casual appearing all over the pricing games. A amen font! To do this, what do we have to do? Get rid of the forum games, all of them. Out in Left Field is a discussion place, of other game shows, brief sports mentions, and RELEVANT obits. Not this junk about the best boy in Casablanca passing away, or a page full of forum games that wouldn't have lived a day under the old system. It's total BS. If your opinion isn't good, you don't contribute, you are out. That simple! Quality always comes prior to quantity, and this site held that for a good 6 years. Go back to that.


--- Quote from: DarkShockBro on December 08, 2012, 09:12:41 PM ---My message: think about how YOU look before you post your message about someone else, because if you don't, you'll contribute to this war. Swallow your pride, and let people be content about posting opinions or information, no matter how s***ty you think they are.
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Again, I partly agree, but not in full. This goes beyond someone else. Look at your potential post about the show, your opinion, etc. Look at your post. Is it supported by evidence, history, etc.? If it looks stupid, don't post it. If you can't tell the difference, or continue to post this garbage, from attacking people, this isn't the site for you, just go away and/or be banned, as this isn't the site for you.

If your opinion (not stuff like the FPG stuff on sideshow, unacceptable on all counts) sucks, I'm going to call it, the opinion out. Attacking the person helps nobody and nothing. This site has and will be better than that. Unfounded or unsourced info is unacceptable. That's asking for lower quality, and why any of us would want this is beyond me. The opinions sucking needs to be with a change in site majority from bad users to good ones. That simple; less to call out.

There's a reason Steve Gavazzi has to belittle people more now, because they just don't get it. I agree about 99.9% of these callings out, because they are necessary. I feel I can safely speak for Steve here when I say that the forum would be much better if we had the types of users we did just 4 years ago.

For those of you who don't speak with proper grammar on a regular basis, throw out random shiite as fact, don't bother to make your point well, contribute nothing, can't run your own show (more than one person here, by the way), go away. That's cold, but I mean it at my core. Here's to a better 2013...though I have no hope of it happening.

Guint:
Jon's post needs to be read a thousand times over by practically everyone who still comes to this site, because he has freaking nailed it.

I joined this site almost two years ago, well after the site went past its prime...even then, despite crap starting to flood the forums, the site was still a better place, namely because you could post 95% of the time without having the fear of getting jumped on with every last thing you say. Now the site is just a dump, with its members taking the junk and throwing at each other. It's like a third world country; nearly an anarchy.

This site can do better. It has done better. But the site is resting on its laurels and its past, and it's sickening. The site needs better expectations, simple as that.

Some of you may have realized the stop signs that are in my avatar, Jon's, and cu2010's, which say "Stop the Madness" in various languages. This is not only aimed at the severe low quality of the show itself, but the site and its members as well. Some of you need to think. If you can't do that competently, then do us all a favor and leave; good riddance.

I know I'm probably putting myself at risk of a ban for this, and you know what? I really don't care. If I get ignored and banned, the site continues on its bad streak, and I wouldn't want to come back anyway. I've said my peace on this. Thank you for reading.

Flerbert419:

--- Quote from: prizes22 on December 08, 2012, 10:19:31 PM ---Look at your potential post about the show, your opinion, etc. Look at your post. Is it supported by evidence, history, etc.? If it looks stupid, don't post it. If you can't tell the difference, or continue to post this garbage, from attacking people, this isn't the site for you, just go away and/or be banned, as this isn't the site for you.

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I think this is a good description.  Opinions leading to evidence leading to conclusions makes for coherant postings backed up by facts.

Somebody who I respect in the internet community recently alerted me that Craig Ferguson has three questions you should ask yourself before getting involved in a discussion.

It's also three things you should ask yourself before hitting that "Post" button:
 
Does this need to be said?
Does this need to be said by me?
Does this need to be said by me, now?

Anything else just clutters forums and takes up bandwidth.

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