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Re: Wink Martindale's Awesome Non-Price Clips and Episodes: The Ongoing Thread
« Reply #120 on: August 25, 2014, 11:28:08 PM »
I'm actually pretty thrilled to see that. I've always had a soft spot for that version, but I've never been able to see it in such clear quality until now.
I'll put this in here, but I didn't want it to overshadow the more interesting topic of specials. Earlier in the show Mike and Beth talked about Jenny McCarthy's appointment to The View and it leads to Mike talking about her appearance on Price. Mike says that he and the staff mulled over whether or not to have her on the show because of the controversy that follows her. They ultimately decided to have her because she's "a great advocate for what she believes in." Now, Mike didn't specify exactly what he meant by "what she believes in" and what "belief" of her's that he's addressing, but that could certainly be taken the wrong way.

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Re: Wink Martindale's Awesome Non-Price Clips and Episodes: The Ongoing Thread
« Reply #121 on: August 26, 2014, 04:07:08 PM »
Here's a second pilot for the 1985 revival of Concentration hosted by Orson Bean.  According to the info on the video, there were 10 pilots made for this revival. 


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« Reply #122 on: August 26, 2014, 07:12:23 PM »
10 pilots? Huh, Goodson must really have believed in this one.

It's not bad. It's no Classic Concentration and Orson Bean is no Trebek, but it's certainly not a bad attempt at a revival, just a different one.
I'll put this in here, but I didn't want it to overshadow the more interesting topic of specials. Earlier in the show Mike and Beth talked about Jenny McCarthy's appointment to The View and it leads to Mike talking about her appearance on Price. Mike says that he and the staff mulled over whether or not to have her on the show because of the controversy that follows her. They ultimately decided to have her because she's "a great advocate for what she believes in." Now, Mike didn't specify exactly what he meant by "what she believes in" and what "belief" of her's that he's addressing, but that could certainly be taken the wrong way.

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« Reply #123 on: August 27, 2014, 11:21:59 AM »
Based on when this was taped and all of the Family Feud sound effects, this may have been pitched to replace the Feud. The word associations a la Pyramid or Password adds a new dimension of challenge in addition to simple matchmaking, and it does allow room for regular prizes to be featured in the bonus round. It also allows more emphasis on the bonus round since although just some money can be won in the front game, the prizes (along with cash that outside of Wild Card matches or the Cash Pot wouldn't be used on CC) give the classic feel. Since it would be Concentration without a car, I'd make the seventh win for retiring champions award a car. The large number of pilots indicates later possible pitch for syndication/ABC and eventually NBC that is closer to Classic Concentration. However it seems like the earlier pilots for ABC didn't get picked up since it felt that with Feud being cancelled it felt more inclined to promote soaps and talk shows to their affiliates unlike NBC/CBS at the time.
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« Reply #124 on: August 27, 2014, 12:09:00 PM »
This would be a good theory, were it not for the fact that NBC owns Concentration (having bought it from Barry-Enright in 1958, shortly into the original run) and licensed the format to Goodson-Todman. As such, NBC would very likely not approve another network airing their show.

One credit near the end ("Distributed by Victory Television, Inc.") indicates that this was for syndication, as if I am not mistaken Victory Television was previously known as Jim Victory, the company which distributed the Narz era.
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Re: Wink Martindale's Awesome Non-Price Clips and Episodes: The Ongoing Thread
« Reply #125 on: August 28, 2014, 08:02:16 PM »
how they got away with that one matching pair around the 11 Minute mark is beyond me....

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« Reply #126 on: August 28, 2014, 09:09:05 PM »
I think Orson Bean tried too hard to be funny.  A good host for this game has to find the balance between humor and seriousness, and Bean came off as grating here.  Also, matching words together is just being different for the sake of it, and doesn't scream Concentration.  The game means concentrating on the prizes' and take cards' locations, to match them up, bank them, as well as figuring out the rebus underneath.

The best thing about this pilot was the bonus game.  With some tweaking, it became the eight-car bonus round that worked very well on Classic Concentration.  Still, it was nice that contestants kept any prize they matched, and the $5,000 bonus was rewarded for matching all the pairs before time was up.
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Re: Wink Martindale's Awesome Non-Price Clips and Episodes: The Ongoing Thread
« Reply #127 on: August 29, 2014, 12:30:34 AM »
This would be a good theory, were it not for the fact that NBC owns Concentration (having bought it from Barry-Enright in 1958, shortly into the original run) and licensed the format to Goodson-Todman. As such, NBC would very likely not approve another network airing their show.

One credit near the end ("Distributed by Victory Television, Inc.") indicates that this was for syndication, as if I am not mistaken Victory Television was previously known as Jim Victory, the company which distributed the Narz era.

Not to also mention, that the sound effects weren't used on Feud until the 1988 version with Ray Combs.

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Re: Wink Martindale's Awesome Non-Price Clips and Episodes: The Ongoing Thread
« Reply #128 on: September 04, 2014, 04:42:31 PM »
Here's the finale of the original Gambit from December 10th, 1976.


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« Reply #129 on: September 18, 2014, 08:06:07 PM »
The Winker now needs 11 more likes to bring his likes to 5000. He promises something special when it's posted. He says he's not sure what it will be but it will "hit him". I still hope for the last High Rollers from 1976:)

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« Reply #130 on: September 18, 2014, 09:04:25 PM »
The Winker now needs 11 more likes to bring his likes to 5000. He promises something special when it's posted. He says he's not sure what it will be but it will "hit him". I still hope for the last High Rollers from 1976:)

It could be an episode of "Las Vegas Gambit".  I think he teased that at one time.
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Re: Wink Martindale's Awesome Non-Price Clips and Episodes: The Ongoing Thread
« Reply #131 on: September 18, 2014, 10:39:23 PM »
It could be an episode of "Las Vegas Gambit".  I think he teased that at one time.

Hasn't at least some of Las Vegas Gambit been said to be lost? Or am I thinking of the Las Vegas season of Marshall's Hollywood Squares?
I'll put this in here, but I didn't want it to overshadow the more interesting topic of specials. Earlier in the show Mike and Beth talked about Jenny McCarthy's appointment to The View and it leads to Mike talking about her appearance on Price. Mike says that he and the staff mulled over whether or not to have her on the show because of the controversy that follows her. They ultimately decided to have her because she's "a great advocate for what she believes in." Now, Mike didn't specify exactly what he meant by "what she believes in" and what "belief" of her's that he's addressing, but that could certainly be taken the wrong way.

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« Reply #132 on: September 18, 2014, 10:44:25 PM »
Hasn't at least some of Las Vegas Gambit been said to be lost? Or am I thinking of the Las Vegas season of Marshall's Hollywood Squares?
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« Reply #133 on: September 19, 2014, 01:46:08 PM »
Here is today's entry - an episode of Las Vegas Gambit!


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« Reply #134 on: October 17, 2014, 02:10:07 PM »
We first saw the opening of this two and a half years ago, but now here's the full fifth pilot of Match Game '90, hosted by Bert Convy.  It's a shame that Bert became ill and couldn't host this version, he would have been great.


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