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Deal Or No Deal Island

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Reloaden:
I seen a clip of the show on youtube and it just looks like survivor with a deal element to it. I don't see this show lasting long.

gamesurf:

--- Quote from: Reloaden on February 29, 2024, 04:43:09 PM --- I don't see this show lasting long.

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I don’t think it was meant to. I can’t think of a show that could scream “desperate writers strike filler” any louder. The whole idea feels like a 30 Rock joke come to life.

Even the “Deal or No Deal” round feels backwards. Eliminating big cases early on is good, because the contestant wants to have a small amount on their case, and yet everybody is coached to groan when they eliminate a big amount and cheer when they reveal a small one.

Statistically the best offer the contestant could have taken was the first one—they had a 58% chance of winning if they had taken the $47,000 deal. There’s no amounts between $750 and $200,000 to worry about.

(I guess the producers are hoping contestants realize they’ll have coin flip odds at worst and an 8% higher chance at surviving elimination isn’t worth the target that will be painted on their backs for failing to contribute to the pot. My prediction is pretty much every game will go down to the final two or deal with only one six-figure case remaining.)

I wasn’t expecting them to build an elaborate set on an island, but so much of what made the original DOND memorable was the fancy set and the sound effects and the chrome. You just can’t get that when your set is cheap and mostly CGI and the contestants aren’t playing for real money.

noahproblem:
The one good thing about a main game structure (i.e. the basic DOND game as opposed to the Survivor-ish parts of the show) which in whole is very counter-intuitive to how the game has always been played:  at least there will still be some drama if the endgame comes down to 2 or 3 low cases.

StacksOfCash:
The show is exponentially worse than the sum of its parts.

Everything that makes Survivor good isn't there. No tribes, no teams, and most importantly no "survivor" aspect. Contestants are fully clothed, fed, and given every possible accommodation. Aside from getting dirty for some challenges, this is essentially a paid vacation for people who can be considered at minimum - semi-celebrities. A large part of the social aspect is gone too since there's no voting and no goal of controlling a majority. Just a person playing a good or bad game of deal and either getting sent home, or choosing someone to go home - no questions asked. I don't have much hope for many twists either like hidden immunities, large reward challenges, auctions or anything that made survivor exciting to watch.

Everything that makes deal or no deal good is gone too. No studio audience, no support group, little buildups, less intense music, and even the rules change to be something far less exciting. I was hoping they would re-introduce the one-time counter offer as well, but they didn't. A "good-deal" should have meant that they made more than what they discovered in their case (I think that dude found $150,000), setting at least some kind of bar or goal for the contestant to achieve. This would make a unique situation the other contestants to root AGAINST the contestant, or give BAD or misleading advice. The game would possibly end early if the contestant had no chance of making that amount though case elimination, but this depth is taken away and reduced to what's essentially a coin-flip at the end.

The run-time for one episode is 1:04:32 without commercials for the first episode. I felt that they could have cut out at least 3/4 of it for it to not feel like a total drag. I won't be watching episode 2 or the rest of the season. This show sucks complete ass.

gamesurf:

--- Quote from: StacksOfCash on March 01, 2024, 02:29:01 PM ---A "good-deal" should have meant that they made more than what they discovered in their case (I think that dude found $150,000), setting at least some kind of bar or goal for the contestant to achieve. This would make a unique situation the other contestants to root AGAINST the contestant, or give BAD or misleading advice. The game would possibly end early if the contestant had no chance of making that amount though case elimination, but this depth is taken away and reduced to what's essentially a coin-flip at the end.

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Then the contestant’s decision would be automatic as long as they know what’s in their case. Every offer $149,999 or less guarantees they go home, so they have zero incentive to take the deal.

It could work if the lowest contestant’s case was kept a mystery, but then they’d need to come up with a new play in game since it neuters the whole first half of the show if contestants aren’t allowed to know what’s in their case to bluff and trade and whatnot.

It’s fascinates me because there’s so much to pick apart. I’m sure there was a way to make  “Deal or No Deal reality competition” work, but that would mean they had to put more thought into it, and they clearly needed something they could duct tape together and get on the air quickly.

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