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Golden-Gallery.net: Documenting TPIR through the years
« on: February 14, 2025, 11:58:19 AM »
After about seven months of on and off work, it’s finally time to unveil a new project.

https://golden-gallery.net

In the early 2000s, one of the most incredible resources a TPIR fan could have was the Golden Gallery. It not only gave fans backstage glimpses of Marc and John’s visits backstage, but also gave new fans a look at both alternate versions of TPIR from around the world and some of the most memorable moments from TPIR’s different “eras” throughout the years.

The Golden Gallery, along with other fansites like Brad Francini’s “Salute to Pricing Games” and Tony Harrison’s tpir.tv, were instrumental in helping me to understand the pricing games and some of TPIR’s most famous moments from history. And it seems I’m not the only one. These are incredible resources for somebody without cable in a pre-YouTube world, who wanted to dig into TPIR’s rich history but didn't know where to begin.

However, Problem 1: the Golden Gallery hasn't really been touched in over 15 years. It’s still around, and it’s still incredible. But it has been ported multiple times, and for the past decade has resided on slideshow software from 2006 that isn’t particularly suited to mobile phones or modern displays.



And Problem 2: As of 2025, there aren’t a ton of online resources targeted to new, casual TPIR fans that want to deepen their understanding. There used to be, but many of those sites are now defunct. Bringing the Golden Gallery back as a modern, mobile-friendly site would be wonderful, but if the only ones who know about it are those who have already seen all of the photos in it, its usefulness is limited.

The modern hardcore TPIR fan has many incredible resources at their disposal. From Steve’s timeline to tpirstats, from the Wayoshi discord tools to Adam’s recaps, the learned TPIR fan can do incredible things with them. However, most of these assume users have a base familiarity with the show.

Put yourselves in the shoes of a casual fan that might want to learn more about TPIR. If you’ve never heard of the “Shell Game cheater”, or if you don’t know how to play the Check Game, is there a place you can learn?



Brad and Tony’s sites are backed up on the Internet Archive, but new TPIR fans aren’t going to be coming across them. The TPIR wiki exists, but it’s quite a bit more in-depth than the casual fan needs or wants. The official priceisright.com site exists, but it is a little too basic and hasn’t been updated in many years.

This new project is looking to fill that void! With the help of a few other trusted longstanding members of the forum pooling our resources, poring over video, and putting our heads together, we’re working on something to fill those voids. A new sister site to golden-road.net, by the name of…


https://golden-gallery.net



This is as of currently just an alpha build, and portions may be unfinished, but it’s in a place where it’s ready to get some feedback from the broader community.

What is Golden-Gallery.net?

There are four main aims of this project:

1) Preserving and bringing the Golden Gallery to modern devices

4500+ of the photos in the Golden Gallery with their captions are preserved on golden-gallery.net as part of the “Classic Gallery”, in 99.9% of cases exactly as they have been for the past 15 years. But now it’s a lot more bingeable and searchable, and with some Wordpress magic, looks a lot better on mobile devices and modern screens.

Full disclosure: Marc has seen an early build of this, and has said he liked what he’s seen. Prizes and Steve have been kept in the loop, and they have said they've liked what they've seen.

Both Prizes and I have contacted John multiple times during this process, and he's difficult to get a hold of. We've done everything we can to let him know of our desires to put this together. We haven't gotten an answer over the months, but he hasn't said "no". This has been under development with the assumption that neither Marc nor John have any objection to us re-porting the Golden Gallery. It’s in a state where we feel comfortable showing it off to the board at large.

Marc and John, we are aware that this project uses several thousand of your old photos and captions. We hope this is something you approve of. If either of you see anything, anything at all about this project that you do not like, let us know and we will be happy to abide by your wishes.

2) Helping new fans get familiar with the pricing games

A new addition is the Golden Game Gallery, which is like the game guide on priceisright.com… but better! It aims to include the rules and screengrabs of the most memorable playings of each pricing games over its history. You'll get the rules to Shell Game, sure, but you'll also get to see set and rule changes, the Shell Game Cheater incident, that Jackpot January special playing for first-class airfare... and all of this backed up with links to the FAQ, tpirstats, and LiteBulb's strategy guide in an easy-to-read, scrollable, bingeable package.

A major inspiration was Brad Francini’s Salute to Pricing Games at his Game Show Central site, which has been defunct for over a decade but is backed up on the Internet Archive. This aims to modernize it. How, exactly? Try playing around with it to find out. :D

This area is under development. Doing a good job takes time. All of the pages for games from the half-hour era have drafts ready; the current plan is to drop new pages in batches once a month or so until they are complete.

3) Helping new fans get familiar with a basic history of the show

Another section is the “TPIR History Showcase” or “Tiny Timeline”, where TPIR’s 53 year long history has been broken into 10 “eras” featuring major changes, tweaks, memorable contestants, and a broad evolution of the show.

This is intended to be a companion piece to Steve’s timeline, but on a much more of a smaller, birds-eye view scale. If the timeline is TPIR’s version of a comprehensive history, the PHS aims for the tone of a TPIR magazine piece that a casual fan could pick up, skim a few pages, watch a few videos and put down and return to scrolling it again in the future.

These are the most difficult to research and put together. The pricing game pages are priority #1 at the moment. The only section in a reasonably finished state right now pertains to the half hour era. Other sections might follow as the pricing games are finished.

4) Helping new fans understand a basic history of Golden-Road.net

Any long-running internet forum is going to generate lore and history that makes it difficult for newcomers or outsiders to understand. An “About” page has the aim of bringing newcomers up to speed on memorable moments from Golden-Road.net history.

From Daniel Rosen’s sockpuppeting to the Perfect Bid, from alt.tv.game-shows to the Superfan show, a basic timeline of memorable moments & links are provided to help newcomers who may stumble across the site help understand exactly what it is we do at golden-road.net and why we matter. Every page links extensively to the forums and other “hardcore” TPIR resources, so a fan who wants to dig deeper can be richly rewarded, but it isn’t required for a casual scrolling experience.

Is that a lot? Yeah. It is kind of ambitious and is probably at least a year or so out from completion. But this is designed to be the ultimate resource for the casual fan. Hopefully they can find something they like here, and hopefully it helps them integrate with the not-so-casual fans.

The current focus is:
  • working on completing pages for pricing games from 1975-1980
  • preparing a page on the hourlong expansion and showcasing memorable contestants and history from 1975-1980
  • preparing a draft of Haven contestants from 2023-present, since there’s no time like the present to capture current history
  • general bug fixes

Updates might drop once a month as they come in.

What do you think?

Please let us know if you have any feedback. Do you like what you see? Are there broken links? Are there bug fixes? Is there inaccurate info that should be corrected? Please let us know here.

Do you know anything about web development or CSS (the style language, not the forum game)? Are you comfortable with Wordpress and do you feel like you can help polish the look of the site? Hit up my DMs.

What ARE the best, most memorable, contestants from 1975-1980? What about the pricing games? What’s the best, most memorable playing of Take Two or Hole in One? What are the Drew moments that deserve to go down in history? What would YOU want to see on this site?

And if you like what you see… please consider sharing it with new TPIR fans once it is in a more finished state!

This is a labor of love, and it’s designed to be a resource that’s easy to share that might inspire the curiosity of other TPIR fans in embryo and get them to want to dig a little bit deeper into the history of America’s Longest Running Game Show.

https://golden-gallery.net
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Re: Golden-Gallery.net: Documenting TPIR through the years
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2025, 12:05:48 PM »
This is a really fun start, thanks for putting this together! Looking to be very comprehensive yet simple if you want it to be.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2025, 01:20:32 PM »
Echoing Wayoshi here.  This is tremendous indeed.  Thank you!
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Re: Golden-Gallery.net: Documenting TPIR through the years
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2025, 01:24:44 PM »
Very cool! I wouldn't mind seeing your own personal opinions of aspects of the show (LOVE your takes on Hit Me.) Something to make you stand out from The Price is Right Wiki.
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Re: Golden-Gallery.net: Documenting TPIR through the years
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2025, 02:29:52 PM »
Very cool! I wouldn't mind seeing your own personal opinions of aspects of the show (LOVE your takes on Hit Me.) Something to make you stand out from The Price is Right Wiki.

There are a couple of us working on putting pages together, and hopefully the tone we’re striking is “passionate but pretty objective.”

I don’t care that much for Hit Me, but I know that other people do and I would hate for my bias against it to cloud the view of somebody that’s never seen it before. Even the Double Digits page is trying to maintain some level of objectivity. If people want spicy takes that’s what my personal account here is for.

The TPIR Wiki is a great resource, and it was very helpful as a starting point when assembling these PG pages. But I find it isn’t the best at introducing people to the show because it’s way, way more info than the casual fan needs or wants. The idea is to try to stand out by being simple, bingeable, and fun to read. This is aiming to be beginner-friendly, something you could share with a Joe Plinko without drowning them.
Quote from: Bill Todman
"The sign of a good game, is when you don't have to explain it every day. The key is not simplicity, but apparent simplicity. Password looks like any idiot could have made it up, but we have 14 of our people working on that show. There is a great complexity behind the screen. It requires great work to keep it simple."

https://golden-gallery.net

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Re: Golden-Gallery.net: Documenting TPIR through the years
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2025, 04:32:23 PM »
This is very nicely put-together. The Pricing Game pages cover the gameplay and the walk through time in the appropriate granularity, and the Tiny Timeline is fantastic for the big picture view, peppered with enough specifics to stay interesting. Extremely well made!

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Re: Golden-Gallery.net: Documenting TPIR through the years
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2025, 04:49:14 PM »
I followed the link from my laptop and it looked great, then I looked at the mobile site and was floored by how all the links/pictures were easily accessible/readable on my Android phone. I might not be able to help with the programming, but I can definitely help beta test it as you drop more updates.

gamesurf and all others involved, this is a great start and can't wait to see the final product!


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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2025, 04:52:16 PM »
The more I dig into the site, the better it is. The links to YouTube videos of the moments, the split-screen capabilities in the galleries, the links to other reference material, the excellent selections of what moments to highlight... I will be eagerly awaiting additions to this project.

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2025, 08:47:53 PM »
I know I don't post often but this looks absolutely amazing! Great job and keep up the awesome work!

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Re: Golden-Gallery.net: Documenting TPIR through the years
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2025, 08:57:32 PM »
You have done a tremendous job with this so far. I do remember using sites like Brad and Tony's years ago when I was first hungry to learn about Price's history, but I hadn't thought about how easy-to-use, beginner-friendly resources like those didn't really exist in the modern era. This is a project that fills a very real gap.

Major props to all involved!

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2025, 02:05:18 PM »
As someone who still hits up the (old) Golden Gallery every now and again to find some particular backstage photo, you are definitely doing God's work. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2025, 03:57:37 PM »
Love this so much! I've always wanted to see the pics from there in a higher quality...tysm
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2025, 04:26:19 PM »
Oh my, this is amazing. Thanks so much for creating this little TPIR hub...I will definitely be tearing into it piece by piece, even if most of the info I already knew.  :-) It's just that good!! :dsw:
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2025, 08:17:11 PM »
I love it! I remember visiting this site before the message boards were added, and being a lurker on the old MSN boards.

One suggestion: We should add a section showcasing (pun intended) members who have been contestants, maybe an interview about their experiences and how they got into watching TPIR and what appeals most to them about the show. Since we have an ever-increasing number of alumni here.  :-)
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Re: Golden-Gallery.net: Documenting TPIR through the years
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2025, 07:32:34 AM »
This is a great way of modernising the 'Golden Gallery' and is already well on the way to be an essential TPIR site like the others it references.

I have been wanting to put all the images of international pricing games that I've accumulated for the 'Pricing Games Around The World' thread onto a website, but haven't got the time or web design knowledge.  Not sure if this is something of interest for you to develop as part of this 'Golden Gallery' site but I'd be happy to provide the screenshots I have (around 2000 total) if it is.  My vision was a grid layout with filters so they can be filtered by either 1) pricing game (displaying all versions of the pricing game from all countries) or 2) by international series (so all the pricing games for a specific series can be viewed).   The combination of filtering by pricing game and grid layout would also enable direct comparison of all international versions of a pricing game, which was one of my aims when the 'World' thread was started.