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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2026, 08:32:43 PM »
A few days ago I was thinking this is how the U.S. show would be if it ended in the 90's and then got rebooted for modern times.

That's exactly what it is. It's probably better than what it would have been in the 2000s but it's still rough.

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2026, 01:23:46 AM »
The Doug Davidson version may have taken a lot of liberties but I still find it enjoyable in its own way. This version is grating to watch.

This version makes the Doug Davidson version look like it should be an Emmy-winning production. I've said before and I'll say again, I was so unbelievably excited for this and I am even more unbelievably disappointed in it. Howie is the only saving grace to it and even he can't save it.
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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2026, 04:24:00 PM »
I've said before and I'll say again, I was so unbelievably excited for this and I am even more unbelievably disappointed in it.

You sound as if you are unfamiliar with Canadian adaptations of successful foreign series.

They never make them any better. That's for sure.
Roger Dobkowitz's Seven Commandments of The Price Is Right:
1. Tape and edit the show as if it were live.
2. Never tell the contestant what to do.
3. Size matters. (The bigger the prize, the better the prize and the bigger the reaction.)
4. All prizes are good.
5. Never do anything on the show that would embarrass a parent with a kid watching.
6. Never put on a prize that would make the show look cheap.
7. It’s the game, stupid! (It’s about the game.)

- Roger Dobkowitz on Stu's Show September 23, 2009.

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2026, 08:56:12 PM »
You sound as if you are unfamiliar with Canadian adaptations of successful foreign series.

They never make them any better. That's for sure.

I'll have to do a dive into the topic because this one misfires so badly it feels exceptional to me. The awkwardly implemented gameplay ideas and bizarre music choices make it feel like a cheap knockoff, and that's not even getting into the overly staged nature of it.

I like to consider the Doug Davidson version a sort of "fast food" counterpart to Bob and Drew's. It's nowhere near as good as the real thing, but it gives you a quick dose if that's what you're in the mood for. This version is like a fake Rolex you can buy on the streets of New York City. Yeah, it tells the time... but look just below the surface and it's phony.

Howie is the only saving grace to it and even he can't save it.

I can't get into him on it. I like him and do think he's one of the better aspects, but his persona has an abrasiveness that's probably better suited to something like Match Game.

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2026, 02:17:35 PM »
I'll have to do a dive into the topic because this one misfires so badly it feels exceptional to me.

I have no idea what you mean by "this one misfires so badly", but I'm only inclined to interpret that as an insult.

It's worth mentioning again that I am Canadian and formerly worked in Canadian broadcasting.  All of that to say I have an idea on both sides of production how the industry works.

I'll save much of the commentary and criticism I could share since it's largely political and outside the scope of this forum, but suffice it to say Canada needs to develop some true culture of its own instead of trying to be so avant-garde in anything arts and entertainment (and always using tax dollars to fail at this), or just ripping off licencing foreign formats and throwing some maple leaves and other "Canadiana" all over it to make a "Canadian" production (and always with no budget).

It's worth mentioning as well that Howie's involvement in this thing is the latest in a trend that's been going on for decades of getting a Canadian talent way above your pay grade (because he's actually famous outside the country) to come be part of a production in Canada as a means of giving the industry a boost and "doing a favour" for the country of his birth.  It's such a tired trope but, hey, I suppose it's easy work, good-enough money and easy exposure (since I'm sure these few episodes they're producing will be rerun into the ground to fill Cancon quotas).

I like to consider the Doug Davidson version a sort of "fast food" counterpart to Bob and Drew's. It's nowhere near as good as the real thing, but it gives you a quick dose if that's what you're in the mood for.

That's an interesting take.  To me, the Davidson version was what All American and CBS wanted to do with the daytime show that they (thankfully) never got to do (at least not until Roger was out of the picture).  They seemed to think it was a problem that the show remained virtually unchanged for decades and, gee, Barker's getting old, so we gotta' get him out of there with someone "young and hip", right?  And that Contestants' Row is so boring!  Let's just eliminate that.  So syndication was the path to sell a drastically different show with barely a look and feel of everything that made Price great (I mean, what has been this obsession since the '90s of trying to replace the Turntable with a video wall?  What was ever wrong with the Turntable?).  If in some alternate universe the Davidson version had actually been a success, I believe the daytime show would have morphed into it eventually and Barker most certainly pushed out.

This fails to recognize the fact that The Price Is Right is a television dynasty.  Should you happen to come into possession of it, you don't try to "make your mark" on the production; you don't try to "take the show in a new direction" (and certainly not turn it into a "game show within a variety show").  You take it.  You hold it.  You make no changes to it, and then you pass it onto someone else.  That fact you can take an episode each from 1976, 1986, 1996 and 2006 and have virtually the same show is a good thing.  Sure, many will say the show has managed to "update" and still lasts in daytime.  Given that network daytime television is essentially dead at this point and Price turns a profit at minimum, the bar for survival is quite low.
Roger Dobkowitz's Seven Commandments of The Price Is Right:
1. Tape and edit the show as if it were live.
2. Never tell the contestant what to do.
3. Size matters. (The bigger the prize, the better the prize and the bigger the reaction.)
4. All prizes are good.
5. Never do anything on the show that would embarrass a parent with a kid watching.
6. Never put on a prize that would make the show look cheap.
7. It’s the game, stupid! (It’s about the game.)

- Roger Dobkowitz on Stu's Show September 23, 2009.

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2026, 08:57:50 PM »
I'm probably in the minority that I'm cool with the One Away wipeout --> win rule.  If only because it's not really that far off from people that only have 1 number right and know it's the first number, and then switch the last 4 and win by default.

There are some things that TPiR Tonight does REALLY poorly.  There are some things I think they do so much better that I wish they'd be adopted into the US version.

At a glance:

All or nothing Plinko chip - that's one way to set up a true win of the game, which has never happened in the game's history.  I've been bitching for this for years.  Bring it to the US version.

A playing of Cliffhangers NOT having the prices in sequential order going up - hard pass.  That breaks one of the cardinal rules that this game should be set up for LFaTs.  You should be able to walk up, not even look at the prizes, and go "$20, $30, $40" and unless it's some crazy prize they don't want being won (the $250,000 minus $10,000 for every dollar you were off among all three prizes), that 20-30-40 should be a slam dunk.

Five Price Tags not being 3 True/1 False - yep, I'm a fan of that.  I hate seeing "false-itis" losses.

I can forgive a lot of missteps in how they try to emulate the original if the prizing doesn't suck.  Like...ABC's Pyramid, Press Your Luck, the second season of Card Sharks they did, all that's great even if not exactly like its source.  GSN's "Whammy" was straight up offensive.  Just to give an idea on where my baseline with this is.

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2026, 09:07:21 PM »
I am confused by what you meant by "they don't make them any better." The way it sounded to me was that the adaptations don't make the shows any better than their original counterparts were. If that was the case, I was saying that I do not know enough about Canadian adaptations to properly look at The Price is Right Tonight in the larger context of said adaptations.

I think this adaptation of Price is a misfire, yes. It looks nice enough visually but the gameplay practices and strange production choices (a great example being the way the music is used) put it in a weird sort of uncanny valley where it just feels off somehow.

I do think it's a workshop to test potential changes for later use on the US version. But that said, I very much doubt anything similar was ever going to happen with the Doug Davidson version. Even after Roger was fired they could have done so much worse than they did, and that's coming from someone who genuinely thinks S37, not 36, is Drew's worst season.

The Davidson version is just a quick way to see three games. That's all it is for me.

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #52 on: May 02, 2026, 09:47:19 PM »
I'm probably in the minority that I'm cool with the One Away wipeout --> win rule.  If only because it's not really that far off from people that only have 1 number right and know it's the first number, and then switch the last 4 and win by default.

The first digit in five-digit One Away should always be a gimmie. If it's not, then there's something really wrong with the way you are setting up the game. If that happened to be the only digit you got right, then congratulations for lucking out with your spectacular misses. Getting two or more right wouldn't have made it so easy if you're just guessing.

You can't win for losing.

I am confused by what you meant by "they don't make them any better." The way it sounded to me was that the adaptations don't make the shows any better than their original counterparts were. If that was the case, I was saying that I do not know enough about Canadian adaptations to properly look at The Price is Right Tonight in the larger context of said adaptations.

You understood me correctly, then. Canadian television should really stop trying to think it can outperform American television. You can never throw enough money at it to make it work.
Roger Dobkowitz's Seven Commandments of The Price Is Right:
1. Tape and edit the show as if it were live.
2. Never tell the contestant what to do.
3. Size matters. (The bigger the prize, the better the prize and the bigger the reaction.)
4. All prizes are good.
5. Never do anything on the show that would embarrass a parent with a kid watching.
6. Never put on a prize that would make the show look cheap.
7. It’s the game, stupid! (It’s about the game.)

- Roger Dobkowitz on Stu's Show September 23, 2009.

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2026, 10:15:31 PM »
You understood me correctly, then. Canadian television should really stop trying to think it can outperform American television. You can never throw enough money at it to make it work.

Ah, yeah, I see where the wires got crossed now. Sorry about that.


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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #54 on: May 08, 2026, 07:54:06 AM »
The latest in the growing puzzle that is the Showcase Showdown... apparently netting $1.00 in TWO spins doesn't award the $1,000 bonus. We can infer this as no graphics or music was played for this contestant despite the fact that the following contestant got a dollar in one spin and did receive the bonus.

Puzzling even further, you would think that the two $1.00 spinners would then have a spin-off to decide who gets the bid/pass option in the Showcase but apparently not! The $1.00 in one spin player was apparently just defaulted that honour with no explanation given.

My goodness.

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #55 on: May 08, 2026, 01:26:50 PM »
We learn something new about the Showcase Showdown every week it seems.  It’s probably been the worst handled thing about this version from not only doing it as differently as they are but also never actually explaining how it works. 

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Re: Canada's TPIR has a premiere date!
« Reply #56 on: Today at 12:23:12 AM »
You sound as if you are unfamiliar with Canadian adaptations of successful foreign series.

They never make them any better. That's for sure.

I too am from Canada and have watched many Canadian adaptations of other game shows - some fall flat, some are respectable to the source material. Family Feud Canada comes to mind immediately when I think of a faithful and successful adaptation of a US game show in Canada. We had a version of Match Game a number of years ago that wasn't amazing, but was still enjoyable.

Shows like Match Game can get away with format tweaks or adjustments and the average viewer probably wouldn't know - some of them could even be seeing Match Game for the first time because it's been on and off the air over the decades. The Price is Right has been on for almost 54 consecutive years, even casual viewers are familiar with the format and vibe of the show. I've said before that CityTV likely greenlit this series due to the ratings success they have with airing the U.S. daytime show. I never expected it to be better or an improvement of the CBS show, but I didn't expect it to feel so cheap and I don't even mean in terms of prizes. I'm talking about the quick-zoom camera moves, the faux flashes/filters on the prizes, the unnecessary contestant introduction before each call down, the awful music/theme choices, the complete mess that is the Showcase Showdown and that's just to name a few. My Dad, who is the definition of a casual viewer,  has picked up on some of these things and he finds it cheapens the show too.
Get Ready to Price the Prize!
George Gray! Rachel Reynolds! Amber Lancaster! Manuela Arbelaez! Alexis Gaube! And James O'Halloran!
As we play the fabulous, sixty-minute Price is Right!
And here's the star of The Price is Right - Drew Carey!