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Title: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: BRB_TheFireball on January 13, 2016, 08:15:43 PM
So yeah.  I've been away from Golden-Road.net for the past four weeks.  If you're a member of Buy a Vowel or if you're one of my Facebook friends, then you know that absolutely nothing has happened to me during the past month.  I wasn't sick, I wasn't in an accident, I didn't die, or any of that.  I simply stayed away from this site the entire time.  I didn't even so much as lurk here.

So why was I gone for so long?  Because I had finally grown sick of all of the f**kery that has been going on around here for a very long time.  I know I'm not the only one who feels this way.  I noticed that, during my absence, Guint pulled a Searcy/Capitano and quit this site for that very reason.  I don't blame him.  I was prepared to give a fiery and profanity-laced speech on December 16 and leave the site altogether.  Instead, I simply logged out and stayed away from everybody.  I'm actually glad that I took a four-week hiatus from this site to cool off because it prevented me from doing what Searcy/Capitano/Guint did, which I might have regretted later.  So, at least for now, I am still a member of G-R.net and still the FPG host.  That may change in the future, depending on my mood and the attitudes of other members.

I truly appreciate Prizes and Chelsea for promoting whammy007 to assistant FPG host/moderator during my sabbatical.  It assured the FPG players (except for me because I didn't submit any picks) that the game would proceed, even while I didn't.  But now that I have returned, we will continue the FPG as normal.  Scott will still contribute to this forum whenever necessary.

I have updated the FPG calendar.  As you can see, we will still have a total of 28 FPGs this season... but I have made the final two weeks of the regular season Play-Along games in order to make up for the December 18 game (which would have been a Play-Along) not taking place.  Since I didn't post any public announcement for that game, that might have prevented some players from not submitting picks.  Because of that, there is no reason for me to consider that a valid game.  Any picks submitted for the December 18 game have be discarded and that week's pot of $388,831 will be rolled over to this week's game, which will be a Play-Along.  May 20 will serve as our replacement Play-Along game.

One final note:  Torgo was the main reason why I stayed away from G-R.net for the past month.  Back on December 16, I un-trolled a troll message to deliver my honest and earnest opinion of his exemplary recapping this season.  His response to my praise was nothing short of meaningless and disrespectful to the point of slanderous.  I felt that there was no point in me coming back to a website where people would treat me and others like s**t for no reason at all.  That was why I took off for an entire month--to decide if I wanted to play Walk of Fame and give this site a second chance.  But if he thought that he could attack me personally without there being some repercussions, then he was wrong.  Effective immediately, he will be serving a four-game suspension from FPG.  For the longest time, I considered disqualifying him for the rest of the season upon my return, but I decided just an hour ago that punishment was excessive--especially when 1) everybody can recall that I did absolutely nothing when it came to cheating and alleged cheating, and 2) I found out that he also resigned his duties during my disappearance.  (Seriously, why did everything around here have to go to hell in a handbasket while I was away?!  And don't even get me started about last Friday's pricing game lineup.  I read the FPG recap a few minutes ago and I have to know what the f**k Sandler was smoking.  I don't think that has ever happened in FPG before.)  Anyway, Torgo may return to the FPG on Friday, February 12.

I have nothing more to say.  Game on... and watch yourselves.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on January 13, 2016, 08:23:02 PM
Is it really fair to ban Torgo for 4 weeks from this game because of a feud between you two? You aren't exactly an unbiased party in these shenanigans. Decisions like this should be left up to Chelsea and the Associate Producer clan.

I understand your anger, but next time, you could've done us a favor and maybe told someone you wanted 4 weeks off to vent. You had a lot of us pretty nervous about what happened to you, in fact. (I personally was concerned about your health.)
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: Torgo on January 13, 2016, 08:31:13 PM
One final note:  Torgo was the main reason why I stayed away from G-R.net for the past month.  Back on December 16, I un-trolled a troll message to deliver my honest and earnest opinion of his exemplary recapping this season.

Quote from: The "earnest" opinion, per the 12/15/15 recap thread
You are the BEST recapper this site's ever had and you are also a success-hungry D.J.!

YOU'RE GOING TO SUCCEED, YOU GOD BLESSED HUMAN!

thank YOU!

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Did I do my recap reply correctly?

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His response to my praise was nothing short of meaningless and disrespectful to the point of slanderous.

Quote from: The Slander in Question, from the same recap
At least I get my late results out within 24 hours of the show airing. You took a whole weekend and continuously have someone else handle your dirty work. I would focus on making unfunny collusion references and holding vendettas against successful FPG players than trying to come at me with some hypocritical shade.

So, let's get this straight... you wrongfully accuse people of cheating in an online game, withhold the results, have had numerous members volley snide remarks about said behavior, but when I do it, it causes you to ragequit for a month?

God, you are a child.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: thepriceis_J on January 13, 2016, 08:32:42 PM
I'm sorry.

First of all, I'm glad that you're back, but leaving without no notice whatsoever to anyone was a poor move. I'm glad the sabbatical made you reconsider your position, but you abandoned the game. FPG is not like CSS in that you miss a couple of games and you can catch up. In FPG, you miss a couple of games the season is derailed. It's a good thing that Scott had the ability to jump in at a short moments notice or this would've been Season 9 of CSS all over again.

Second, after all the crap Torgo has received, both rightly and wrongly, over the last few months, I can't believe that you don't see how the way your post was constructed and worded that a large hint of sarcasm could be clearly detected. I'm happy to hear that your intent was to indeed praise, but you overpraised so much that it really didn't come off as sincere. Excuse both him, myself, and many other members who didn't read that post the way you had written it. I don't think Torgo should receive a suspension that long, if at all, since your praise post wasn't that clear and that, instead of clearing it up, you left a simple sentence and left. PMing Torgo probably would've cleared things up that instance.

People are tired of the f**kery and drama, but if we'd actually talk to each other sometimes instead of a whole bunch of private conversations with other people, it'd go a long way to perhaps fixing the problems most seem to see in the site.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: sideshowPA on January 13, 2016, 08:38:20 PM
Fireball,
Very happy to see you back, and hope all is well in your world.

I can totally relate to your absence. I left this site for over a year before deciding that I wanted to participate again.  After just a year away, things had clearly changed. And it's easy to dwell on how "worse" or "better" things are, and the ins and outs of personality differences.  But here's the thing: I still love the show, and very much enjoy chatting about it. And as long as I know there are others who share my passion for the show's history and future, I want to be part of the conversation.  I suspect you feel the same.

Taking a vacation from the site may be the best way to deal with the silliness of the extra-curricular activity which goes on here. But surround yourself with positives and keep those at the top of your mind.

I sincerely appreciate your work here.

Bob
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: sideshowPA on January 13, 2016, 08:39:22 PM
stuff

Torgo, it's enough....you need to go.

Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on January 13, 2016, 08:40:23 PM
Torgo, it's enough....you need to go.

All he asked was question to point out a possible hypocrisy. Is there something wrong with that?
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: OneBidTris on January 13, 2016, 08:45:03 PM
I find it funny that whenever Torgo does something, he always ends up getting punished. Whether or not he deserves it is a different matter, but this is something I need to get off my chest.

You can't just abandon the game for a whole month without telling anyone that you're taking a leave. You can't just up and leave your game and come back to it expecting everything to be normal again. I know you're angry about Torgo and all, but you can't suspend someone just because you're angry at them.

Frankly, it's disturbing that people would rather have someone just up and leave the game than at least saying goodbye. I really don't know what this says about the site.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: sideshowPA on January 13, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
All he asked was question to point out a possible hypocrisy. Is there something wrong with that?

Is that all he did? Because I note he also called him a "child". Is he expecting a response after calling him a child?

Enough silly name-calling around here.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: wildbill0962 on January 13, 2016, 08:47:39 PM
I don't usually say much on this site other than the sports threads in Out of Left Field. But it's pretty silly how some of these threads basically become attack threads one way or another. But it is what it is, I guess.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on January 13, 2016, 08:48:43 PM
Is that all he did? Because I note he also called him a "child". Is he expecting a response after calling him a child?

Enough silly name-calling around here.

But no offense, the running off and abandoning a game is almost child-like behavior. If Fireball wanted 4 weeks off to rest from this, then just talk to Chelsea, ask for 4 weeks off, promote whammy007 and let it be. This is not how this should have been handled from beginning to end. 
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: vadernader on January 13, 2016, 08:56:11 PM
One final note:  Torgo was the main reason why I stayed away from G-R.net for the past month.  Back on December 16, I un-trolled a troll message to deliver my honest and earnest opinion of his exemplary recapping this season. 

I really don't understand this. I think that if you polled the site a majority would have seen your post on 12/16 to be sarcasm/snark. It's hard to convey tone over text, but it did not seem genuine at first glance and to this day I for one didn't realize it was.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: Punchboard91 on January 13, 2016, 09:08:03 PM
This is ridiculous. You can't leave your job without telling your supervisor for a month and expect to still have it when you come back.

Also, you can't suspend someone from FPG for something completely unrelated to FPG. That's an abuse of power, and is, in fact, childish.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: UniquePerspective on January 13, 2016, 09:14:03 PM
Eye beleave in 3 choyce and 3dom 2 chews:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ban-torgo

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ban-fireball

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ban-uniqueperspective

Dis is seryous busynezz and must b adresed.

Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: tpiradam on January 13, 2016, 09:31:19 PM
Regardless of whatever decisions users make about how things are run and everything, I feel like we all need to treat everyone with respect. We need to stop the name calling, the rudeness and the bullying. The atmosphere here as of lately has turned very sour and poisonous and it doesn't feel friendly at all. The fact that I'm witnessing this sort of behaviour from moderators, not general members but moderators in charge here, is appalling. I don't really enjoy it here anymore due to all of this and sure, I could easily leave and abandon my presence here, but rather than do that I'd rather see things become more pleasant around here.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: bigblue999 on January 13, 2016, 10:20:41 PM
Yay for more petty drama!

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Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: Wayoshi on January 13, 2016, 10:26:02 PM
Your response to a legitimate criticism, whether it was said in jest or not, and one that blew up so much that "collusion" is now an inside joke - was to basically ragequit for a month, and now not even accept said criticism and lash back out at Torgo with a silly FPG suspension. That showed very thin skin, very unbecoming of a leader on this website.

The whole collusion game and the aftermath of it has blown up into an unforgivable strike in my opinion. I think an impeachment poll by the players is necessary.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: therealcu2010 on January 13, 2016, 10:44:52 PM
Enough silly name-calling around here.

This. Discuss the events of this thread all you want, that's certainly fine...but if I see any more petty name-calling, I will start suspending accounts. I don't really care who it is. I don't care who started it. I'm sick of reading it. You can question a decision all you want and respond to a personal attack while maintaining a level of respect.

I will go on record and say that I vehemently disagree with the decision to suspend Torgo for four games. Torgo isn't completely in the clear here, either...but it's a silly forum game. It's not worth it.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: SteveGavazzi on January 14, 2016, 12:16:38 AM
Cu's post notwithstanding, this thread is a freaking clusterfuck.  I'm LOCKING it until Chelsea can look at it so no one has any more chances to say something inflammatory on the subject in the heat of the moment.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: Thrasher on January 14, 2016, 08:34:11 PM
I am suspending the game for one week. If you want to play a just for fun game off the boards, I am okay with that, but any semblance of an official FPG for the week is hereby cancelled.

Fireball, you have a PM. Please read it and respond to me between now and Tuesday. If I don't receive a response by 8 PM ET on Tuesday, then I will make the assumption contained therein and move forward. Hopefully, we can arrive at a much more favorable set of results, however.
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: Thrasher on January 15, 2016, 10:33:26 PM
BRB_TheFireball has elected to step down as host of the FPG. I want to sincerely thank him for his dedicated service to the site and to the game.  I'm sorry things ended as they did, but wish you the best with everything going forward!

Regarding Torgo, as a general rule I don't like overruling player suspensions within games, and will uphold the decision to suspend him for four weeks, although I now consider the suspension to be four calendar weeks.  The game was scrapped this week, and is off next week, leaving a two game suspension. Should the new host wish to make any alterations to this decision, this is now his right to make, but that is my interpretation of the current situation.

Whammy007 has graciously agreed to be the host of the FPG through the remainder of season.  My sincerest thanks!
Title: Re: The Prodigal Host (Or the Past, Present, and Future of FPG)
Post by: whammy007 on January 15, 2016, 11:23:24 PM
I'd like to take this opportunity to echo a bit of what Chelsea said and wish Fireball the best in any future endeavors. I think we can all agree that the last month didn't go down in a way anyone ever expected or wanted it to, but I don't want that exchange to completely overshadow Firey's three-plus seasons of quality service as host of the Friday Prediction Game. I can only try to do my best in his place and hope my tenure as the head of FPG is half as smooth as his was (the events of 2016 notwithstanding).

With that said, there's nothing more to be gained by dredging up the past, no matter how recent it may be. As the interim host of FPG, I want us all to be looking forward with our eyes on the prize, that shining Goodson-Dobkowitz Cup which will be awarded at the end of the season. Our next scheduled game is on January 29, which gives us two full weeks to calm the frayed nerves and get back into rhythm... and continue the vigil for Let 'em Roll, that game is becoming ridiculously due. :P

That does bring me to one final piece of business I want to address, which is the matter of Torgo's suspension. Let me first go on record as saying that I don't approve of the remarks made by either Fireball or Torgo to each other in the various threads over the last month. Maybe there was a simple miscommunication between them, maybe there wasn't, I don't know and I don't care. What I do care about, however, is the integrity of the game, which was breached by Fireball when he suspended Torgo as personal retaliation for those comments. Torgo's actions are not, I repeat NOT, blameless in this situation, but neither are they in violation of any of the rules of FPG. As such, Torgo's suspension is hereby rescinded. He will be eligible to play in the next game along with everyone else.

I believe that covers everything I meant to say for now. As previously mentioned, FPG will resume on Friday, January 29, with Episode 7375K serving as the make-up for this week's Play-Along game. I hope to see you all then, or at least to see all of your lineups in my PM box.